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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my.

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Speaker 2: Co host, Joe Hayden.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: How you doing today, Joe?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great again, Debo, because you coming through again

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Speaker 3: with another shirt that is not a particular color.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to figure out it's till you coming.

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Speaker 2: Through with this nice till. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Listen, bro, I don't know what Till is. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what Till looked like. But I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: as base colors, because that's all I had in life

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Speaker 1: was base colors.

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Speaker 2: This is more of a blue than it is anything else.

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Speaker 2: Now as you.

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Speaker 1: Look right here, okay, here and here where I'm in

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Speaker 1: a couple spots, it looked like it might be green

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Speaker 1: on camera, but I'm saying it's more blue than anything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I can understand, Chack chat.

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Speaker 2: What's what color you got on, Joe?

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to I have on the Jamaican

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Speaker 4: soccer jersey.

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Speaker 5: So I have a green color green. This is green.

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Speaker 5: This is black. This is red and yellow shirt?

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Speaker 2: Please? Why did you do this yellow?

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of colors, yellow, green, black, golden rod.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is green.

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Speaker 1: Your your shirt and the mixture of green yell will

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Speaker 1: stop it.

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Speaker 4: Your shirt is a mixture of green and blue. And

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Speaker 4: it's called teal. It's called golden rod that you got on.

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Speaker 4: It's a different a lot of different colors.

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Speaker 2: I know that I'm part of Jamaican. Jamaican. Me mad.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: You're you're making me mad that you don't know the

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Speaker 4: difference in colors. That's a teal shirt, and you know

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Speaker 4: it's more blue than anything I could. Okay, it's more blue.

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Speaker 4: That's what you keep saying. Blue in green is till.

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Speaker 4: So it's both of them more blue. It's more blue

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Speaker 4: than anything. Joe, all right, all right, all right, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, like Joe, you just come on, bro.

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Speaker 1: You said, I what I don't understand, Joe, Joe, you

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Speaker 1: confuse matter of fact.

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Speaker 2: Man, Let's get over here, man.

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Speaker 1: They say the Steelers already boxing themselves into a corner

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Speaker 1: at the combine. They said Pittsburgh is hyper focused on

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Speaker 1: taking the receiver early in the dry They said that

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert.

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Speaker 2: I guess well they believe that.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cobert in twenty eighteen through twenty two, he was

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Speaker 1: focused on feeling potential needs that we had and they

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Speaker 1: were doing some reaching. They named Terrell Edmunds in eighteen,

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush nineteen. They actually traded a first or second

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Speaker 1: and the future third for him naje and twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Kenny Picketts in twenty two. So

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. Here's the thing, y'all. Yes,

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Speaker 1: me and me, I know, I know things.

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Speaker 2: You know? You know how you know things that? Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: they just assumed that.

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Speaker 1: So, since we're going to give all the credit of

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Speaker 1: drafting players to the GM alone, let's look at COB's

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Speaker 1: record from two thousand to say about two thousand and

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen.

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Speaker 2: That's when they started looking like it was doing some reaching.

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Speaker 1: So in that timeframe of almost fifteen years, he would

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Speaker 1: pick best player on the board, and people would be like,

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Speaker 1: why are they picking that guy? That's not what we

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Speaker 1: need because that's the best player on the board. And

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Speaker 1: it was very productive. So it was very little reaching

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Speaker 1: that was going on all the way up until about,

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Speaker 1: like I said, fifteen sixteen somewhere somewhere around there when

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Speaker 1: you came out.

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Speaker 2: So what changed?

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Speaker 1: Why would he change what he was doing for fourteen

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Speaker 1: fifteen years that was working? Or did the power and

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Speaker 1: authority to do that change. What would you think happened, Joe?

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Speaker 1: What do you think is more likely?

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Speaker 2: I would think the power and authority change.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, because if you go back to twenty fifteen again,

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Speaker 1: only two of the fifteen first and second rounders received

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Speaker 1: long term contracts with the Stellers when that time came.

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Speaker 2: So, what they're doing now, it's called homework.

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Speaker 1: People, you do the interviews, they're looking at all the

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Speaker 1: guys they believe can go on the first or second round,

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Speaker 1: whatever that may be. And why are they so focused

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Speaker 2: Joe? Here's why? Actually I want to ask you a question. Okay,

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Speaker 2: asks me a question.

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Speaker 1: How many times has alignment offensity offensivelyment cost division in

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Speaker 1: the locker room that you know of?

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Speaker 2: No? Not to know? Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How many times has a corner cost division in the

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Speaker 1: locker room? No matter of fact, let's do this. How

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Speaker 1: many times has anybody that wasn't a wide receiver or

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Speaker 1: a quarterback caused division in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that many in the NFL, isn't.

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Speaker 1: Now, why are we so focused on that, because we

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Speaker 1: are looking for a receiver to come into the locker

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Speaker 1: room and add to the rest. Now, we've had what

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Speaker 1: is that five receivers now that we've drafted in that

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Speaker 1: time period at the position. None of them received long

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Speaker 1: term deals with the Stillers, and most of it was

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Speaker 1: due to maturity issues.

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Speaker 2: Right, they would say there was the maturity issues.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So so what they are doing is digging in

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Speaker 6: deep to the person that is the receiver that they

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Speaker 6: want so that they know that, you know what, this

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Speaker 6: is a person that fits the Stiller way, the rigging

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Speaker 6: up what you're putting down, the real Stiller way, picking up.

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Speaker 1: But they're not going to get a player and just hope,

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Speaker 1: you know, he plays gradies good and just hope they

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Speaker 1: can mold him into what it is that we need

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Speaker 4: Now because it hasn't worked, I'm picking up. I'm picking

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Speaker 4: up what you're putting down one thousand percent. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: there's dudes that are just going to be able to

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Speaker 4: be performing and they ball and that's what they do,

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Speaker 4: and they're not really locker room guys, Like when you're

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Speaker 4: looking at a dude, that's look, I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: come in here, lunch pail, do this work, work the

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Speaker 4: hardest that you've ever seen, go by my business like

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Speaker 4: a professional. And that's just the way I do it

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Speaker 4: because that's who I am. And that's just some people

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Speaker 4: that's built in them. You got to get to know them.

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Speaker 4: That money's not really going to change, Like I said TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 4: that money's not going to change the way that he works.

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Speaker 4: He's going to get that contract, he's gonna be the

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Speaker 4: same t J. Watt every day, making sure everybody's good teammates,

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Speaker 4: boom boom boom, work and grinding. It's not about the money.

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Speaker 4: He's the It just it just comes along with it.

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Speaker 4: So when you're saying that they're doing the research, that's

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Speaker 4: in the person.

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Speaker 2: I need to know how you act, Like what what what? What?

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Speaker 2: What do you do? Or is this football?

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Speaker 4: Is this gonna be really a thing that I can

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Speaker 4: give you this money and we're gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: follow you. You know what I'm saying, Because at the

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Speaker 4: time ballers, you're going to be able to get away

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Speaker 4: with You're gonna when you Hoop, you get away with things.

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Speaker 4: And that's just kind of the way when you get

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Speaker 4: that second contract, when that comes up, it's like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know if I can do that because I've seen

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Speaker 4: what he's been doing right now without the dough.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine when.

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Speaker 4: He gets that bag and we still need him, Like,

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Speaker 4: but he's no, I'm chilling you him saying I'm still

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Speaker 4: that's kind of not the guy that we need. So

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Speaker 4: the person that you're saying, the work hard guy, the TJ. Watts,

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Speaker 4: the men of Fitzpatricks, the Cam Heyward, the one that

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter about is I'm really trying to go hoop,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I think what you're

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Speaker 4: saying is completely right.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Just get the you want to get the best receiver, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but the receiver that's good for your franchise, that's bringing

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Speaker 4: that energy every single day, and it's not about the

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Speaker 4: dough and he's not just going to be doing off

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Speaker 4: field things.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to bring that off the field.

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Speaker 4: Issues and doing that research and knowing the person, seeing

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Speaker 4: who they hang out with, what's their crew, do they

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Speaker 4: have a crew? You know what I'm saying, like, what

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Speaker 4: do they like to do? Do they like to go out?

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Speaker 4: Do they like the party? Do they like to do

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, do extracurriculars? You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, it's all good because now you're a professionally,

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Speaker 4: you're a grown man.

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Speaker 2: But I'm paying you that dough.

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Speaker 4: So when I do that, I need to kind of

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Speaker 4: know exactly the person I'm drafting. So I'm not sitting

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Speaker 4: there pinning their self into a corner.

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Speaker 2: I'm liking that they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Their research and making sure that they don't pick the

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Speaker 4: foggy wrong person. They pick the right guy that they're

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Speaker 4: bringing into the franchise to be like, all right, look,

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Speaker 4: we know we need a receiver. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: talented receivers in this draft, but the one that we

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Speaker 4: want to go get is the guy for us.

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Speaker 2: So I'm rocking with it. Oh, no question.

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Speaker 1: They should be super focused, Like that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them going in there and reaching for

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Speaker 1: a guy that is not first round caliber. I see

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Speaker 1: them approaching it like they used to approach it.

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Speaker 2: Pick the best.

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Speaker 1: Player at that spot at that time that is on

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Speaker 1: the board. So everybody just sit back, relax, watch what

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Speaker 1: the Steelers do, and then you could judge it for yourself,

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Speaker 1: because now we're in need of a tackle bro Roger Jones.

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Speaker 1: He just underwent fusion of his neck for the injury

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Speaker 1: he got week twelve, So like that right there, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be tricky.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually he's due this year.

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Speaker 1: They have to make a decision fifth round option, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because they have to decide by May first, I believe

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Speaker 1: it is they're going to pick that up, which guarantees

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Speaker 1: him a little over nineteen million in twenty twenty seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he could possibly be missing all of twenty six

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Speaker 1: And do when you get a fusion of your cervical

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Speaker 1: like on your neck as an offensive lineman and you're

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Speaker 1: making contact like every play. I don't think that's something

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Speaker 1: at least me as a player that I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: I believe the last guy that had a fusion like

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Speaker 1: that was what's the dude's name, Kevin Smith from I

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Speaker 1: think it was New England or something, twenty twelve, and

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Speaker 1: he had his cervical fusion and was medically advised that

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Speaker 1: he could not return to football due to the risk.

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that, what you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and take that risk, and God

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Speaker 1: forbid something happens like that's a lot you know on

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Speaker 1: their plate. Yeah, which he's also wide the stillers they

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Speaker 1: ended up making more a few tackles in ND two.

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Speaker 2: No, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I all prayers and hope the best form,

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Speaker 4: the fusion, it's not like they're just a regular bone thing.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, Like, you have to make that decision

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Speaker 4: Right now, it just seemed like he's going to be

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Speaker 4: when we be like, oh, okay, hold on now, you

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Speaker 4: because it's not like they're giving him a long term extension.

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Speaker 4: You're not just going to send them to another team.

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Speaker 4: I think if wile he's hurt, I just think that's

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that they would pay him knowing that

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Speaker 2: Like I say, I died for this shit, but I

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Speaker 4: I don't want him.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm just looking at it as if he's trying

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Speaker 4: I don't want this man out there. I don't want

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Speaker 1: The sure if he wants to play, But they medically

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean we would have to.

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Speaker 1: Uh? They said, he said, well take it back, Omar said,

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Speaker 3: Sure, and that's nineteen. So they I had your girl

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Speaker 2: No, for sure, that's nineteen. Pick that up. You ain't

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Speaker 1: Let's let's look over here and see what your boy's

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Speaker 4: We're still like hope, I hope it's super duper likely,

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Speaker 4: I know he's a grinder. Though, I really like him.

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Speaker 4: He's his rookie year. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 4: He could be wide receiver too, now Judy, he would

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Speaker 4: Now we still need one more. We need to We

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Speaker 1: We're working on that. You know, I'm just saying, Joe,

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Speaker 4: Understanding, man, We're still working on it. We're gonna We're

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Speaker 2: Get our line. We got to figure out what we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna do with Joe, my boy, Joe Antonio trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out what we're doing there did but offensive line, Like,

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Speaker 4: We need line. We need to make sure we That

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Speaker 2: But we're still working on getting it right.

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Speaker 4: Draft picks for linemen, free agency for alignman, free agency

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Speaker 1: Lineman, draft picks, free agency and all that you think

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 1: They got, they got, they got Howard. They got Howard

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00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: over there in exchange for a fifth round and he's

438
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Speaker 1: getting the three year, sixty six sorry, sixty three million extension.

439
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 4: Now he's coming off of that. I think this is

440
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: his last year of that deal, is it?

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think I think so. I think so.

442
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: I know you're not walking into the crazy big ding

443
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Speaker 4: like that, the crazy.

444
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Speaker 1: Let me check that again. I could I could be wrong, though.

445
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: I believe they said they given me him an extension though, yeah,

446
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: they might understend them. But I'm telling you they said

447
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: three six. I believe it was three for six six

448
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 1: because last what was his PF Pro Football Focus They

449
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: said they had him at a seventy one and a

450
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Speaker 1: seventy seven He was seventeenth among qualified tackles in the

451
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Speaker 1: past blocking seventy seventy one seventy seven point one. Sorry, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: and then go to old PFF. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

453
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. They give me money. They

454
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Speaker 1: sent him over there, They gave up a fifth for him,

455
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Speaker 1: and then Cleveland.

456
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Speaker 2: And he's gonna block. That's what we need.

457
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Speaker 1: What I just tell you, I mean, anybody, it's better

458
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: than what y'all got now, becau, y'all ain't got nothing, man, Yeah.

459
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Speaker 2: Ain't watch this. Look we already cooking. There you go,

460
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Speaker 2: We already cooking.

461
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Speaker 1: And speaking of Texan man, Texans say they still backing

462
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Speaker 1: Strive after everything that happened.

463
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Speaker 2: They said, that's that's still their guy. I mean.

464
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Speaker 1: From two thousand, what was it, twenty three, twenty three

465
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: where he said he was a he personally said himself

466
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: that he was a top five quarterback. I think he

467
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: threw for over forty one hundred. I don't remember how

468
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: many touchdowns. I ain't got it. But since then the

469
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: next year he was sacked what second most with fifty two.

470
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Speaker 1: Then I believe in twenty five they dropped that to

471
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Speaker 1: maybe twenty three twenty three sacks.

472
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Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know how much it.

473
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Speaker 1: Helped, because he still threw for a career low just

474
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: over three thousand yards. He did miss three games, but

475
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: even his yards per game was two seventeen career low.

476
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Speaker 1: He's he's actually undefeated in wild card round playoffs.

477
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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and six.

478
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Speaker 1: Yards passing five touchdowns to interceptions, and he is also

479
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Speaker 1: winged three in divisional round playoffs fifty three cent for

480
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: completion six hundred little over six hundred yards, one touchdown

481
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: full in exceptions. But they still got us back. They

482
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: still got this back. Even the defensive lineman what's his name,

483
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: Will Anderson. After the playoff loss, he said, Yo, we

484
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: still got our quarterback. We behind him, We rallied behind him.

485
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: We didn't get the outcome we wanted, but that's why

486
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: we had an off season to.

487
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: Get better and grow. Even the GM when he was.

488
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Speaker 1: Asked about the possibility of trading immediately he shut it down.

489
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Speaker 1: He said, we're not trading our quarterback. He said he's

490
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Speaker 1: going to be playing quarterback for the Houston Texas in

491
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Joe, he called it moronic chatter, mo

492
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: ronic maronic chatter.

493
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Speaker 4: He just said he's going to be there for the

494
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Speaker 4: near future. He said twenty twenty six.

495
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, but we say him in February by the

496
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: contract extension for CJ. He replied with the Hey, we

497
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: don't talk. We don't talk publicly about contracts, and anybody's

498
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: particulous situation. But hey, Demika Ryan said about the contract

499
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: extension this all season. He was like, hey, we're we're

500
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: not getting into that right now.

501
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

502
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Speaker 1: I think I think I think we got I think

503
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Speaker 1: I think we got somebody that's like, Okay, I'm gonna

504
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: wait and see and see how to go and work

505
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: my way through.

506
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: And then you got another one.

507
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: The GM probably got more on the table than the

508
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: Migo because he just got there like, hey, no, that's

509
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: that's our guy right now.

510
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 4: I ain't talking contract. I mean, that's that's that's what

511
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: they gotta do. You know, is what have you done

512
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: for me lately?

513
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: Debo? And I mean, you know this is what I'm saying.

514
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: And after those games, I mean, sometimes it looks a

515
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: little tricky when your defense is playing that well, you

516
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and you don't end up going

517
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: And I think CJ. Strout is a ball of two.

518
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 4: He's going to be there, he deserves to be there.

519
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: He's played really well. But for them to stand on

520
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: the line, it's like this, actually speak loud of the words.

521
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: Are we talking about giving this man a new deal?

522
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Are we talking about CJ. Strout being the future for

523
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: the Texans for the next five or are we just

524
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: talking about picking up this fifth year option. You know what,

525
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, he's definitely going to be here next season.

526
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 4: That's when you really know, like you're gonna show me

527
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 4: how much you love me if you can put up

528
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: that two hundred You know what I'm saying, with one

529
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 4: hundred guaranteed, that's going to show me that you really really.

530
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Are rocking with and I'm your real franchise quarterback.

531
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Speaker 4: So with this, I'm not mad at them because I'm

532
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 4: looking at it. They play the defense balled out and

533
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: like CJ is coming off of not doing too well

534
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, so I mean he's a great quarterback.

535
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: So for them, I mean they could do it the

536
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: same way Sam Darnold he was with the Jets, and

537
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 4: then he looks like a completely different person here I'm

538
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: looking at he's young, he hasn't been in the league

539
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 4: that long. You can give him some more time to mature.

540
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: Or is it like this is the best defense that

541
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 4: we could have possibly had.

542
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: C J.

543
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: Stroud, you kind of I don't know you can be

544
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: able to do it here? For me, they're giving him

545
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: another year. I think CJ. Strout is going to have

546
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 4: he's he gotta go out there and ball out. You

547
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 4: have to perform better than what you did in the

548
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: playoffs last year. Consistency, not turning the ball over. You

549
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 4: have a team that the defense, y'all could have won

550
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: the joint. So when I'm looking at it, can they

551
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: they could have won the joint?

552
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: Dude?

553
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll agree with you his whole like, over the

554
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: last three years, it don't It's not bad, but it

555
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: ain't great either. Twentieth in QBR, ninth in passing yards,

556
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: twelfth with interceptions for quarterbacks with at least what thirty starts,

557
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: and then he's tied fourteenth. He has three playoff wins,

558
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: which I'm crediting that to the defense, especially, you know,

559
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: because he had six interceptions in the playoffs, dude. Like,

560
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: and on top of that, they have to do again

561
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: about his fifth year option on May first, Like, what

562
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: are you going to do, Joe? What you're doing on

563
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: his fifth year option? Because soon as you do the

564
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: fifth year option, you already know that's guaranteeing him something

565
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven.

566
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: What that is? I don't know.

567
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know now. Ay, And they lost the.

568
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: Tackle, That's what I'm saying, and not protecting him either.

569
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: He looks like he about your quarterback is getting hit

570
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: upside the head also, So it's not looking like it's

571
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: looking tricky.

572
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: For the GM.

573
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: It's looking tricky for CJ. Because I think he's a

574
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: good quarterback. But you can't go into games throwing that

575
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 4: many interceptions in your defense is balling and lose, you

576
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, So like it just doesn't look good.

577
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: And when you're.

578
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Walking on like, oh no, like the stats and all

579
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: that stuff, it's all good, but what have you done

580
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: for me lately? And that's why I think the GM

581
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: isn't standing on the long term contract, Like, yes, he's

582
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: going to be here for this upcoming season, so I

583
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: think definitely they're going to keep them.

584
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 3: They're going to give him the fifty options. They go

585
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: keep him and not pick up the fifth. This is

586
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: what you're saying.

587
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Because they pick up the fifth, that means he there

588
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Whether he's playing or starting or not,

589
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: it don't matter, but they guaranteeing him something for twenty

590
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: twenty seven, whether he's there or not.

591
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: We got to find out the numbers.

592
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: So you're you're going to base it on what he

593
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: what his guarantee is in twenty twenty seven. Now, don't

594
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: forget last year they gave up the other tackle what

595
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: is it, Lamar Laramie Tunsel over there to the Commanders

596
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: for a fourth rounder.

597
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to protect the quarterback. They're trying to

598
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: protect him or trying to or trying not to protect.

599
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: I don't think these.

600
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Calls to give away basically would end up being like

601
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: your best offensive lineman for the last two years.

602
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: The same time too, right, he did.

603
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 4: He definitely his Joe Mixing was missing this year and

604
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: his number one receiver was hurt. So that's getting give

605
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: him a little a little leeway.

606
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

607
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean they traded everything away, Joe. They trade, they trade,

608
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: They trading players, they traded. I mean they traded everything away, Joe.

609
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: They traded lost one of your teammates in the trade

610
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: that you was like, damn, I missed my homeboy.

611
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh man, Well, when they didn't sign my boy tj

612
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: Ward when we was in there, when we were in Cleveland,

613
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: it's Denver left win winn the championship. We was balling.

614
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: Wanted him to resign. My dog TJ. They wasn't trying

615
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: to resign them. We were balling together, went to the

616
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl and everything, and just let him slide.

617
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Damn man, there.

618
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: They'll trade you off, man, just like they did, Just

619
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: like they did my boy.

620
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: Uh. Who was it?

621
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Uh Broe trade him my boy, Dave Montgomery off you

622
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: over there. You're over there now with the with with

623
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Houston man. He Uh, he said, it's Uh. He said,

624
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: it's goodbye. After they traded, he had a post. We

625
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: got that post. Where is it that? There is that it?

626
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: You can barely see it, he said.

627
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

628
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: He said, it's hard to find the right words for

629
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: goodbye like this. He continued on and uh to say

630
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: that Detroit has never been a location for me.

631
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: It's been a community.

632
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: And all of you have been more than supporters of

633
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: our team.

634
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: You've been, Uh, you've been.

635
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: You've been a steady hands, loud cheers, honest feedback and

636
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: quiet strength when I needed it most.

637
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: He would later go on to finish it with I'm.

638
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Beyond grateful and I will always be proud to say

639
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: I was shaped by this city and you with appreciation

640
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: and respect.

641
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: D mouth bro bro.

642
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he knew that was coming. No, no, sir, Gibbs.

643
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: Hey Gibbs had this on this Instagram story seeing it

644
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: with the Sonic. Yes, yes, the Sonic and knuckles. It

645
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: be like that some times.

646
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: That league devote league's cut throat bro to league super cut.

647
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: Though you be with you, you be your best mass.

648
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: Everything's going good everything.

649
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of cutthroat, the Commanders, they released a lot of

650
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: more after just eleven games with the team. Bro, my

651
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: dude got eleven games in there. They cutting what was

652
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: it they saving eighteen and a half in the UH

653
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: and cap without any dead money.

654
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: And hell, he turned thirty. You know how they be

655
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: on you turning thirty.

656
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: You know you know how the NFL actor about that

657
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: thirty number, especially at the skill position.

658
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: That's that's your your fifty too hit thirty.

659
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 4: You act, they act like you're legitimately fifty, No question, man,

660
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: that's what happened.

661
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: You better, But you gotta ain't helping me either. Though

662
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: they gave him a ninety nine and ninety fourth in

663
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: UH coverage and overall defensive grade. I think he got

664
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: hurt though, Yeah he did. Yeah, just then the Commanders. Hell,

665
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: they finished twenty eighth against the past.

666
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't. I ain't. I can't say I'm surprised

667
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: that the reading all that right there. No, man, I

668
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: know how that is. Man a lot of more baller.

669
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: But when you get older in the league, and as

670
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: soon as you start losing one, you lose a step,

671
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: you get you get hurt, hit the ACL or something

672
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 4: like that, and then you're in the thirties. They're not

673
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: trying to They trying to find a way to get you.

674
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: They trying to find a way a replacement for you.

675
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: Coach.

676
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: Oh, no question where you think he can land though,

677
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: you think you think he can land somewhere.

678
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: I mean I want him to somewhere that's probably got

679
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: a nice light. He's he's a good player, good player,

680
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 4: somebody that doesn't have to do as much press man though,

681
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: like I would want him to definitely be able to

682
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 4: do more zones, more reading the quarterbacks. So now I know,

683
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 4: just being able to use his braind a little bit more.

684
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a I'm gonna go with I'm not even

685
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: gonna go with a team. I'm just go go with this.

686
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: He's I believe he's still like rehabbing his knee, So

687
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a thing. But I believe the biggest

688
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: thing is going to be what number he is willing

689
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: to come in and play for. Yeah, that's gonna be

690
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the big issue. They gotta start. Yeah,

691
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's a real live thing.

692
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 4: Man. Once you start getting over that number and then

693
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 4: you start getting hurt, they can go without. So it's

694
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: more like than the little little deals is like do

695
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: you how much do you really want to play in

696
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: the league or you? It was trying to you know

697
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, make the bag, because I think that's

698
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: where it kind of hit me. Like it was, you

699
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: can come over here and maybe get a little practice

700
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: squad and then we can get you active. I'm like,

701
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: oh man, that's wild, you know what I'm saying. So

702
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: if you really want, I ain't got no practice squad time.

703
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: But if I used all mine up, Joe.

704
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: See.

705
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: You all de bos Come on, man, you you you

706
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 4: gotta be chilling outdo you?

707
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: Forty you forty seven? Man? You just relaxed. Now I'm

708
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: getting into my retirement. I'm getting into my retirement now,

709
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: my hips. I did that one time, Joe, I came

710
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: out of retirement one time. There's no one way I

711
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: can come out. At the day one, I was ready.

712
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: If dude, if my dad he hadn't told me you finished,

713
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: you finished what you start, Bro, I would have been like, hey, man,

714
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: y'all can have this back.

715
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Man.

716
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: Man, see her, Joe, I was t shot up Joe

717
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: two of them things that week.

718
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Joe.

719
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Bro, I was so bad top of that.

720
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: When I came back, they was like, oh, you're gonna

721
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: get about fifteen snaps. Man. The boys gave me about

722
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: thirty five snaps. I'm like, oh, lord, so you know

723
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: I was. I was, I was. I was cooked after

724
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the yes, Oh I was super cooked. Man, bruh. Another

725
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: trade rumors, we got Max Crosby. Man, they say they

726
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: expect the Cowboys to at least kick the ties and

727
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: see see what's going on. You know, according to I

728
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: guess Sports Illustrated, they said they go at least kick

729
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the ties across first, Joe, what do you think the

730
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: chances two Dallas?

731
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: And do you like the idea?

732
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: I like the idea of Max Crosby going to Dallas.

733
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely better than the Raiders.

734
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: At least we know.

735
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: That they're gonna at least I can say this. I

736
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 4: know Dak, I know CD. Them dudes aren't trying to lose,

737
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: so I can least say that they're gonna be He's

738
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: gonna be on the team that has aspirations to try

739
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl. So at all the talk

740
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: they've been doing, they haven't done it and forever. But

741
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: he was in the Raiders and they kept them on

742
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: the bench trying to lose games. So I just don't

743
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 4: see the Cowboys doing.

744
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: That at least.

745
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: So if I were Max Carlby, I mean, if I

746
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: was mad Max, I wouldn't be mad to go to

747
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad to get out of the Raiders for show,

748
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: but then going to Dallas knowing Dak he's trying to

749
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. You got a franchise quarterback. You

750
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: got a franchise quarterback there. If I'm mad Max, I'm

751
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: not mad at that. I'm going to Dallas. I'm getting

752
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: a star, I'm getting my bag, and I'm getting to win.

753
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm trying to win, obviously, and I got a quarterback

754
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: in the offense. I got Ceedee Lamb over there, I

755
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: got George Pickens. They're trying to win. So now I'm on,

756
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: mad Max, I gotta turn this defense up, and I'm

757
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: in that joint trying to whom I'm I'm I like that.

758
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: I like that for Max Crossby.

759
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: You know what if first I was like, I don't

760
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: even see that happening. I just didn't see the likelihood

761
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: of happened. But now I'm thinking about it when you

762
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: look at it, remember how we were just like yo,

763
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: only ware you go get somebody to give them that

764
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: many First is if this is a person that could

765
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: come in there and make such an impact that it's

766
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: gonna put them in contention for Lombardy. Hey, now I'm

767
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: thinking about this, Brian. They only had thirty five sacks

768
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: last year. That was tied for like twenty fifth, twenty six,

769
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. Like that, Yes, the worst pass defense in

770
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: the NFL over two hundred and fifty one yards a game.

771
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: And yes, like the easiest way.

772
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: To make an impact on that is make it to

773
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: where the quarterback can't hold the ball all day. You

774
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: get you listen just that, man, Jared, you might want

775
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: to go do this, brother, You might want to go

776
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: do this.

777
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Now you done had a draft of.

778
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: Thirty years standing in the way you're getting another Lombardy.

779
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: You put cross me over there on the edge. It

780
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be a hold that ball like that. DB's

781
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: ain't got to sit there and following chase dudes while

782
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: they adjust their.

783
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: Routes and all that them dudes are in the run game.

784
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: I believe this is that that that that spot.

785
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Hell, look what the office is doing, man, The office

786
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: has where they can stop somebody over there. Dak doing

787
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: something crazy over there, the office doing something crazy over there.

788
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: That's the that's the crazy right here.

789
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Jerry.

790
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: This could be it for you, man. This could put

791
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: you back over there standing with a Lombardi at.

792
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: The end of the year. Oh man.

793
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: See, that's the one thing is though, Debo is when

794
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: we say this the Cowboys have, I don't.

795
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't enjoy me. It doesn't.

796
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: It doesn't make me happy when I say this. Because

797
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 4: the Cowboys got they got the goods.

798
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: They got a quarterback they gotta.

799
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 4: They got the receivers, they got CD.

800
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: They got.

801
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: Their offense is nice. The offensive line is solid. They

802
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 4: just went and got Quinn Williams, big man in the middle.

803
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: He's solid, he's really nice. Mess around. Go get Max

804
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: Crosby and then you got they got draft, Get you

805
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: some corner safeties, get you some defense, mess around, you

806
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: got pitt, you got money, get you some defense.

807
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: I can nullified?

808
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: Can they s with Max?

809
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: They with Crosby? Man, I put him on the edge.

810
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: You can't.

811
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: You gotta take you five too. You need too of them.

812
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Now you can't listen. I'm trying to listen, Jerry. If

813
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: you don't listen to nothing, else, if.

814
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: You don't listen to nothing, we say listen to this.

815
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Max Krobsby can be the guy to get you back

816
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: into being them balls.

817
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: Y'all might be able to beat them balls backs, and.

818
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: Then they gonna have They just gonna have the defense.

819
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to bring some defense.

820
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: Dude. What how many points was the offense scoring the game? Bro? Hey, Chad,

821
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: somebody tell me something by the thirty? Bruh? Come on

822
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: you telling me?

823
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: You hm?

824
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: They give us thirty? By bro, we had been undefeated.

825
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to tell you. Undefeated thirty a game.

826
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: Stop playing with me.

827
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: And they got some pics from your boy going over

828
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: there to Green.

829
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: Bay, Michael. Didn't they get something from that? Man? Listen?

830
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: They got they have a lot of they have a

831
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: lot of assets. Listen, Jerry, you about to make some shape, Jerry. Listen, man,

832
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: but they're gonna get they tagging my man, Jerry.

833
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Jerry, listen, y'all, y'all tell you any of y'all here

834
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: who are Cowboys, Cowgirls fans, whatever it is Cowboys fans.

835
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: Listen, tell Jerry.

836
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Show us that he cared more about that football team

837
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: than that all money man, and go ahead and drop

838
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: what you need to get.

839
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 3: Max Crows me on your team. Man, it's going We're

840
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: gonna see it. Go ahead, said oh, and me say,

841
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: I feel sorry for you guys. Show me my bad guys.

842
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm man, Max, I'm gonna go ahead, guy, he got

843
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: Look he's showing me. Look if I'm I'm a Dallas

844
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: Cowboys fan, though, if I'm a Boys Cowboys fan, I'm geeked.

845
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy because he brought in George Pickens. He's

846
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: doing little stuff that makes it like, Okay, that's a vibe.

847
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: I like that.

848
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: You you you addressing things that we need and our

849
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: team is not trash.

850
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: That is not trash the people.

851
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: I don't think people get Dak Prescott and that's not

852
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: trash that.

853
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: Listen. That that listen.

854
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I just think that was just a late late gamer

855
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: because it up by so many.

856
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: But last year, look at him go up. I missed

857
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: doing it. He was. Yes, man, we're watching the game.

858
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: He's putting the ball in a good place. Yeah, yeah,

859
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: he's doing it ball place. Man. Yes, I ain't gonna yeah,

860
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna watch you man,