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Speaker 1: NFL on Fox. Is this your twenty fifth year on Fox?

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Speaker 1: Is that right, Chris?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about Yeah, it's about fifteen or eighteen?

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Speaker 2: It's over twenty NFL and twenty five with the network,

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Speaker 2: of football like a fan, but I've also had It's

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Speaker 1: You've seen it all and you know what, you've probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know ce Travis Hunter, right, I haven't gone

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Speaker 2: us Mark Flaerth and I call him the game and

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Speaker 1: Clearly another change in Jacksonville this offseason. New coach, new GM,

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Speaker 1: new structure of the organization, everything involved. But Liam Cohen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I've been optimistic a guy from Florida

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that means that we had a good game

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Speaker 1: this whole new reboot here or is it going to

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Speaker 1: take a little bit of time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say yes.

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Speaker 2: I saw the couple of reasons for the other teams

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Speaker 2: in the division. Let's be honest, it's not a great division.

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Speaker 2: The NFC South gets the same kind of kind of label.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much better some of those other

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Speaker 2: teams got. I think Houston last year we saw some

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Speaker 2: and I'm still a believer in strowd some deficiencies there.

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Speaker 2: The Jags seem to match up well with them when

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Speaker 2: they do run into them. But I would say a

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Speaker 2: lot of it is the connection that I saw and

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Speaker 2: I have felt with Liam Cohen, and then he'll do

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Speaker 2: his part. I think Trevor Lawrence knock on woods staying healthy. Uh,

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Speaker 2: And you know, I like the little other move that

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Speaker 2: Diamie Brown, you know, adding a guy like that. So

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Speaker 2: I'm in Washington though, we hope that Brenton Strange is

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Speaker 2: ready to develop. Not sure about the running game around

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And I always said to no matter what

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Speaker 2: kind of quarterback you are in the NFL. You need

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Speaker 2: to run, make the make some plays with your legs,

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Speaker 2: you know, three to five times a game somehow, whether

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Speaker 2: it's running, whether it's a quarterback keeper or running for

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Speaker 2: first down on third and eight and you scramble. We

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Speaker 2: know that Trevor can can do those those kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that they're in the end. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's funny nationally people have gone around you hear him talk,

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Speaker 2: and maybe you've heard it there in Jacksonville as well,

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Speaker 2: that Uh, they'll say, who's okay, we got the favorites.

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Speaker 2: You know who's coming, who's the upcoming team? The people

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Speaker 2: are really expecting, and you do you do hear the

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Speaker 2: Jacks mentioned, which I think is a compliment to the

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Speaker 2: changes they made from the front office. Uh, to anybody

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Speaker 2: who's met and watched Trevor Lawrence play from his college

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Speaker 2: days knows that I can win. So I think that's

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Speaker 2: where it'll start with the question. I would say, can

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Speaker 2: the defense do its part as long as Trevor stays healthy,

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Speaker 2: running game does enough, I think you're in the division

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Speaker 2: race for those reasons.

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Speaker 1: Chris, You're the best. It's always crossover season for you,

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Speaker 1: but thanks for taking some time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no exciting with the baseball postseason, but nothing beach

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Speaker 2: NFL Sundays. And one other note on Bryce Young. He's

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Speaker 2: really gonna miss Adam Thielen.

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Speaker 3: That was what he was.

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Speaker 2: He was his right hand man. We saw it in

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Speaker 2: meetings and emotional and so I hope he can overcome

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Speaker 2: that early, which is why this this game, I think

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Speaker 2: is going to be be a close one, going to

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Speaker 2: be a good one and always have a good time

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Speaker 2: getting getting back to Florida. The heat may be a

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Speaker 2: little advantage already. The Panthers are talking about it because

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Speaker 2: they had a cool training camp up there in Carolina.

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Speaker 2: So take any advantage you guys can get. But thanks

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Speaker 2: for having me on