WEBVTT - #411 Packers Unscripted: More from OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming to you here from our studios at lambeau

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<v Speaker 1>Field West. We had an opportunity yesterday to attend a

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<v Speaker 1>second O t A practice for the Green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to something though, from about

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<v Speaker 1>a month and a half ago, when Aaron Rodgers spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to reporters at the start of the off season program.

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<v Speaker 1>He made a comment, kind of an off handed comment

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, mentioning that he thought Aaron Jones came

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<v Speaker 1>back looking physically like a different player. Okay, so, now

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<v Speaker 1>the O t A practices, we got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see him. You can definitely see he does look different.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done something different with his body. Yesterday you found

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<v Speaker 1>out exactly how he did it. So give us the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing. Okay, So I made a vow

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago to myself. This was for my own credibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt everybody writes the story about how so and

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<v Speaker 1>so changed their body during the off season. They put

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<v Speaker 1>on five pounds, they took off five pounds, They cut

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<v Speaker 1>down their body fat, this, that, and the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's something to fill the time during the spring and summer,

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<v Speaker 1>but realistically, does anything really change. So I made a vow,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, I'm not going to do that this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well then you see Blake Martinez come back looking like

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<v Speaker 1>he's been lifting tires all off season and looks noticeably bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you hear these comments from Aaron Rodgers. And

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<v Speaker 1>at that time, Michael, we had not seen Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no public practices or anything of that sort.

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<v Speaker 1>But we had that mandatory minicamp the day of the

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<v Speaker 1>draft where we got to see the Packers players out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately my eyes went to Aaron Jones and immediately thought,

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<v Speaker 1>this kid looks different. As you said, the big thing

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<v Speaker 1>for him, it's obviously training his weightlifting program. He split

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<v Speaker 1>his time between I should say Phoenix and also with

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<v Speaker 1>El Paso, where he's from. But the bigger sacrifice was

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<v Speaker 1>his diet. He loved eating cookies, He loved eating gummy bears,

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<v Speaker 1>that was his number one thing. Twizzlers, skittles, every type

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<v Speaker 1>of junk food that you and I after a hard

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<v Speaker 1>day's labor like to sit down and enjoy or even

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<v Speaker 1>after a hard day's half half day's labor exactly. But

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones said, I can't do that anymore. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make changes. So he always enjoyed eating healthy. He said

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a stretch for him to have to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on chicken and rice and in steak and keen wa.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done all that stuff before. But it was the snacking,

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<v Speaker 1>so he cut down on that. He mentioned some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. I mean almonds, I like almonds, uh, apples

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<v Speaker 1>with almond butter. Not as high on that. Rice cakes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even throw those at me. But for him

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<v Speaker 1>it made a difference. He heloped a taste for it.

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<v Speaker 1>He came back. He was at about eleven body fat

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of last year, reported back at five

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<v Speaker 1>point three. And if you just look at the young man,

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<v Speaker 1>there are significant changes in his body structure. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's taken it seriously. Really both of his off season

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<v Speaker 1>since his year in the NFL when because he's had

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<v Speaker 1>he's had injury issues, primarily with his knees. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>forced to miss games. He's been very frustrated at the

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<v Speaker 1>games that he's missed. He has spent his two full

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<v Speaker 1>off seasons as an NFL player, working on his body

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<v Speaker 1>and building his body to withstand the long haul at really,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, is the most in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 1>most physically punishing position there is in the NFL. So

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<v Speaker 1>he knew from his rookie year that he that he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to make changes. He made some going into his

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<v Speaker 1>second year. Unfortunately, he had another knee injury that cost

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<v Speaker 1>him a few games. Nothing serious in terms of those injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do keep him out for a couple three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks at a time. So his goal, in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>other things we talked about this offseason about wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be more involved in the passing game and being that

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<v Speaker 1>reliable three down back that doesn't have to come off

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<v Speaker 1>the field, and all that, he's got that sixteen game

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<v Speaker 1>schedule in his mind that he wants to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field every single week for this offense. Three things

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out. One, when he said he's

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<v Speaker 1>had some issues, I thought you were going to say

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<v Speaker 1>Soldier Field, and I honestly didn't know if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say that that is that is true if you take

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<v Speaker 1>away Soldier Field. He's not missed the game yet for injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>There are, Yeah, there aren't necessarily just coincidences in life, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But be that as it may, it is interesting, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it was sort of an eye open

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is kind of turning the topic a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But this year the Packers draft Dexter Williams

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixth round, right if notre dame. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going through his bio on NFL dot com. They list

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<v Speaker 1>the strengths and the weaknesses. One of the strengths that

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<v Speaker 1>scouts had for Dexter Williams, I never he's seen this.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I wasn't reading closely enough. They said a light

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<v Speaker 1>workload in college, not a lot of wear and tear.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe that that will be a positive thing for

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<v Speaker 1>him going in the NFL. That's becoming a strength now

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<v Speaker 1>of players. The reason I bring that up is Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones has had two knee sprains. He wants to put

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<v Speaker 1>those in the back, but he only has two fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>carries in the NFL so far. It's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for two full years in the league. If

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<v Speaker 1>he can stay healthy here, if the changes he's made

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<v Speaker 1>with his diet, with the changes he's made with his workout,

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<v Speaker 1>regimen to develop his lower body strength, his leg strength.

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<v Speaker 1>If all of that lines up for him, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can be a force for years to come. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the game has changed. It's not two and fifty touches

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<v Speaker 1>a year for these guys, four d touches the year.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think of like Larry Johnson back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Alexander, Sean Alexander, there is more longevity with these players.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I think Aaron Jones also understands, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Jamal Williams does two. Jamal Williams talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He came back looking very lean. If those

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<v Speaker 1>guys can put their body in the best physical position possible,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to have platoon situations, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to extend your career. You want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to make sure that your agility, your quickness, your speed,

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<v Speaker 1>your strength indoors. And these are the type of decisions

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see third year running backs making. So

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<v Speaker 1>from that perspective and with everything else that entails with

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<v Speaker 1>this Packer season coming up, in the emphasis that there

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be on the running game under Matt Lafleur,

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<v Speaker 1>I think both of those guys have put themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a position for success. Yeah, and it's good that you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Williams too, because he certainly came back with a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a reshaped body. He did it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat for different reasons. I think he did it in

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<v Speaker 1>part to maybe try to fit this outside zone scheme

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better, because durability has not been an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with Williams. This is a guy who has been

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<v Speaker 1>out there all the time, and whether it's been in

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<v Speaker 1>a complimentary role or being the feature guy in certain

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<v Speaker 1>situations and in certain games, Williams is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>answered the call throughout his his two years in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, he has. And the thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how this is going to shuffle out.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there going to be a platoon, are they gonna

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<v Speaker 1>look to have one guy. Those things are gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to be sorted out in training camp and then going

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<v Speaker 1>into that opener against Chicago, which is in Chicago, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But you did have to mention at least

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<v Speaker 1>you get that out of the way though right off,

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<v Speaker 1>that the grass is going to be in as good

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<v Speaker 1>as condition is it's going to be in at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hope for Aaron's sake. But the bigger thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to need all these guys to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to play. And the other thing I took away

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<v Speaker 1>from listening to Jones a little bit as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know he understands the long game. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows that in order to not only just stay

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, but to break away from tacklers, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want anyone chasing him down. And if these are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that he had to do to make himself

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<v Speaker 1>not just a really strong, explosive football player, but a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can play all three downs, he was only

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<v Speaker 1>to make those sacrifices. Yeah, I think we're all really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what Aaron Jones is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>moving on to another area of the offense um. The

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<v Speaker 1>first Open O t A practice last week, Davante Adams

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<v Speaker 1>was not on the field for the Packers. He was

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field yesterday, and we saw a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an interesting dynamic here. And as you wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about Aaron Jones on our website, of folks want to

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<v Speaker 1>check out that story I wrote about Davante Adams, and

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<v Speaker 1>that story is available as well. There was a play

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even remember the specifics of it necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>but right after the play was over, as Adams is

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<v Speaker 1>walking back towards the huddle, Matt Lafleur is walking alongside

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<v Speaker 1>of him, talking into his ear, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them kind of acknowledge whatever the conversation was. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we move on. This is a first

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<v Speaker 1>year head coach kind of in the year of a

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl wide receiver, and Davante Adams didn't flinch. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only did he not flinch or um show any you know,

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<v Speaker 1>displeasure with being singled out like that by the head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked to reporters afterwards. He welcomes it. He says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's told Matt Lafleur, He's told the other offensive coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see something with a route, something that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing right in this offense as we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>learn things, I want you to tell me, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the elder statesman, the veteran in the wide receiver room.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he takes that very seriou lee in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that that it's not for any kind of special treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because he knows he's the example setter for all

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<v Speaker 1>of these other guys and if he if he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be told to do it right, then he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to pass that down to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys. It's an interesting dynamic here that's developing

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<v Speaker 1>West Because my point is that we've seen Davante Adams

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<v Speaker 1>very naturally and smoothly progress into a leadership role as

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<v Speaker 1>Jordy Nelson departed, and now Randall Cobb has departed, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy who's really coming into his own

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<v Speaker 1>in so many facets here as an NFL player, as

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<v Speaker 1>a leader, as a guy that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>in that locker room are looking up to. What I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about when I read your article and saw that

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<v Speaker 1>quote in his thoughts about this and and seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>big picture there with listening to the floor and his

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<v Speaker 1>coaches in that regard, Elvis Wooded obviously a well accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>guy that spent nine years in this league. It goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to obviously, you know, there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>route runners out there in the population. Okay, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of golfers though, And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about it almost reminded me of when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, you do a stroke or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have your drive time after time after time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you start to develop that hitch and you start

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe get a little bit of a slice in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You get that golf prow behind you. Sometimes it's even

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<v Speaker 1>your dad for that matter, and they kind of tell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're leaving your club face open, your your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your hips aren't quite where they need to be. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get into such a regiment, in such a routine

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes those fundamentals, even when you are honing them,

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<v Speaker 1>can start to slip off, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let that continue to slide. That's kind of what I

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<v Speaker 1>took away from that conversation is Davante Adams knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he has to do, he knows what's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>expected of him, and he's always up to that challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are so many things mentally you have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about, especially when you're learning a new offense, that

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<v Speaker 1>those moments I think are important for Matt Lafleur to

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<v Speaker 1>step in and say, well, this is what we're looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>for Elvis Witted to say this is the player you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be. But as you also pointed out the

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<v Speaker 1>article that I thought is so important is by setting

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<v Speaker 1>that example, by being open to those ideas and being

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<v Speaker 1>open to those conversations. There is a roster of young

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<v Speaker 1>receivers there that are going through the same thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a young guy, a young sportswriter, and there's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else that's on my list, you know, my employment list,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's been there for ten, fifteen years and

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<v Speaker 1>has written award winning pieces and there's things that he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to work on. Yeah, I mean that tells you

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't ever get complacent. That's way. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that's very important with with his open mindedness

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a situation where he's willing to take

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<v Speaker 1>that coaching, but also understanding he's the number one guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the depth chart, there's a lot of young guys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be looking up to him. Well, in the

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<v Speaker 1>other understanding part of it, Davante Adams is no fool.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows he's going to get the ball. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to get his numbers. Now, whether he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a hundred eleven catches plus yards and double

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns again, I mean, who knows what it ultimately is

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season. But he knows he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get the ball, and he knows he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put up the stats and all that. But he also

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<v Speaker 1>knows that the wide receiver group a whole, the success

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<v Speaker 1>of the group is going to be more defined by

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<v Speaker 1>what Valde is Scantling and st Brown and Jamon Moore

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<v Speaker 1>and Jake Kumero and maybe Trevor Davis or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys. Whoever makes the team out of training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>the success of the group is going to be more

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<v Speaker 1>defined by what they produced. Geronimo Allison obviously in that

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<v Speaker 1>in that mix as well, then by what he does

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<v Speaker 1>and whether he makes the Pro Bowl again or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where the taking the leadership part of things

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<v Speaker 1>very seriously is is. Uh, it's an honest approach on

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<v Speaker 1>his part, and it is big picture thinking on his

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<v Speaker 1>part as far as what is best for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>not just what is best for Davante Adams to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>try to break Jordy Nelson's records this year, to get

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<v Speaker 1>to another Pro Bowl or make get an All Pro

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<v Speaker 1>recognition or whatever it might be. He's looking at that

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<v Speaker 1>receiver group as a whole and how it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be viewed. It's such a great way to look at

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<v Speaker 1>it too, because if you if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eighteen season, Davante Adams was as sharp as

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver could be. I mean, he came into his own,

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<v Speaker 1>lived up to that contract, and was everything that Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers needed him to be in this offense. The results

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<v Speaker 1>are still what they were from a team perspective, though

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't enough wins. There wasn't enough production and changes

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<v Speaker 1>had to be made. So yeah, it goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>that old adage of you know, you are only as

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<v Speaker 1>strong as your weakest link. They need Marquez Valdes scant

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<v Speaker 1>link to be making big plays. We saw one of

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<v Speaker 1>them in the first team period during Wednesday's practice when

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to beat the cornerback down the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>beat the over the top safety help and have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice connection with Aaron Rodgers for it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifty five yard touchdown. They need Geronimo Allison

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<v Speaker 1>to be the player they think he can become. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, versatile, accountable, explosive. Those are the fixtures of

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<v Speaker 1>this offense. It's multiplicity. It's being able to go three

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<v Speaker 1>or four deep on your depth chart at receiver. They

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<v Speaker 1>need young guys to step up. There's a good competition

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<v Speaker 1>brewing there. The more guys that are pushing for those snaps,

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<v Speaker 1>that are pushing for those targets, the better it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be for this offense in the long run. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>another guy I want to talk about from a leadership standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a little bit different conversation because he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a different place in his career. But we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about Tremont Williams since he came back to

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay last season after spending three years in a

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<v Speaker 1>combination of Cleveland and Arizona, comes back to the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>and as actually last week during the open locker room session,

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<v Speaker 1>I just decided to walk up to him and ask him, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so why are you still doing this like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have I mean, he's got a Super Bowl ring, he's

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<v Speaker 1>been to a Pro Bowl, he's got twelve years of

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<v Speaker 1>service under his belt. There's there's no there's no practical reason,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, that he needs that he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing this. And it turned into an interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because he mentioned one of his one of his primary

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<v Speaker 1>motivations right now that and you could see the smile

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<v Speaker 1>that it brings to his face. And Tremont smiles a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it brought maybe a little bit bigger smile to

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<v Speaker 1>his face as he was talking about his kids and

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<v Speaker 1>specifically his son, Tremont June Year, who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn nine years old this fall, and he started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how his son now understands the game of football,

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<v Speaker 1>understands what dad, does you know? Talks to dad about

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<v Speaker 1>this and that with the defensive scheme and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you did on this play or what you did

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<v Speaker 1>on that play, and Tremon just absolutely loves it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just he and you know, as anybody would, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves the fact that his son now is to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where he can have those conversations at home

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<v Speaker 1>and it it puts him in a different place in

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<v Speaker 1>his career when you look back at the fact that say,

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous play that everybody's going to remember Packers

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<v Speaker 1>fans as far as what Tremont Williams did, the pick

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<v Speaker 1>six in Atlanta in the playoffs in two thousand ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Tremont Jr. Was just a couple of months old at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, you know. So he's in a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>place now, and he's absolutely relishing the relationship that he

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<v Speaker 1>has with his son and with the game of football.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's in his mid thirty's, he's still able to

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<v Speaker 1>play right now and and is a guy who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to play an important role on this defense. It was

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<v Speaker 1>funny too, because another point of he talked, He's talked

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<v Speaker 1>in his first two locker rooms for an extended amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time. One of the Huddles that I was, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was even asked about, you know, you ever run

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<v Speaker 1>a Ford anymore? Just for funny. He's like, no, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to because I'm running with Jackie, Alexander,

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<v Speaker 1>all these other cornerbacks and I know I'm still fast.

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<v Speaker 1>So he says he can keep up the way he's

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<v Speaker 1>invested in himself. And I've written about it numerous times

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<v Speaker 1>now I give it again last season when he played

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<v Speaker 1>all but five snaps in that defense. Is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he just puts such a heavy emphasis on his

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<v Speaker 1>body making sure he's in the right spot. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest though, too, Mike. You can do everything right physically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mentally evolve with the game, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to last. That's why Truman Williams is still here.

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<v Speaker 1>He's smart, he's intelligent, and he's proven that he can

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<v Speaker 1>do a number of different things in this defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt from day one it was the right move

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers to get him back when he had

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<v Speaker 1>the resurgence he did with Arizona in two thousand seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the type of player this team was missing when

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have that older veteran that can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guide and bring guys along. But the great

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<v Speaker 1>thing was is he was still motivated to compete with

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<v Speaker 1>those young guys, that he still wanted those snaps. He

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<v Speaker 1>still wanted to be out there, and here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thirteen or fourteen for him now, he's still taking

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<v Speaker 1>snaps with the number one defense. Truman Williams is going

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<v Speaker 1>to help this defense get to where it wants to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to help this secondary be the secondary that

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers field, that the potential is there to be

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing. I think that special is that the

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<v Speaker 1>longer that he can continue this on. Truly, I mean this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to sound somewhat you know, cheesy,

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<v Speaker 1>but the memories that that's going to form for for

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<v Speaker 1>his kids, for his family, you don't get that a lot, Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>We see it so often, especially in this game. It's

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<v Speaker 1>these guys don't play twenty years. It's not Lebron and

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<v Speaker 1>Kobe and things like that. And his his daughter, his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Trinity just turned seven years old too, so she's

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the point where she's gonna start she's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what's what what dad does for a living

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<v Speaker 1>now and everything and and all of that. That dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>with his kids is is completely different and he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it going as long as he can. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always baby pictures, right when you see the family night,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's guys with their for one and two year olds,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are going to be great someday. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Tremon Junior can enjoy that ride too with

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<v Speaker 1>his dad, I think it's exceptional and it probably sets

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a standard for him too that hey,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I want to be able to do that someday

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So I just think it's great. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Jaire Alexander and Kevin King and these guys

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what Williams has meant to that locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, Father time is undefeated, collects us all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to collect us as sports writers some day too,

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<v Speaker 1>when there's young people asking why are you still here?

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<v Speaker 1>But no question the fact that Tremon has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to extend this as long as he did. He's on

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<v Speaker 1>what his fifth contract now in the NFL. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just impressive to see that kind of work ethic

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<v Speaker 1>allow him to still have those opportunities today. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>his as we've talked about his versatility, his knowledge of

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Mike Patton's defense, and his versatility. Being able to play

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<v Speaker 1>safety last year when the injuries hit and whatnot was

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously valuable. But he made it pretty clear he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm here to play corner. Hey, if stuff happens,

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm open minded. I'm always a team guy first, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do what needs to be done. But you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get the sense that and he doesn't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>years he has left, whether it's this year or another

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<v Speaker 1>year beyond whatever, but you kind of get the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that he wants to play corner here as he finishes out,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's what he grew up on in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what he knows best. It's where he feels he

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<v Speaker 1>can make the best impact, not just filling in somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually be an impact player. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the Packers are going to look for him at corner.

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<v Speaker 1>With the way they revamped the safety position in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season. I think you look at Terrence Newman, how

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<v Speaker 1>long he held on too at the cornerback position without

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<v Speaker 1>making a natural transition to safety. It's pretty impressive too.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the other thing too, Mike, that I just I

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<v Speaker 1>know some people last year we're talking about safety play

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Charles Woodson, to be quite honest

0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.680
<v Speaker 1>with you, was not an All World All Pro safety

0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand twelve. He settled into that spot with

0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Oakland and he came in All Pro in his last season,

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't that way for day one. For Tremont

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<v Speaker 1>Williams not to have a training camp and then have

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<v Speaker 1>to start there for some seven games or whatever it

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 1>was nine games, that's a tall ask. So for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be back at cornerback now with those young guys

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<v Speaker 1>in that room, I just think that that's still his

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<v Speaker 1>best spot. That's where he gives the Packers their best chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we're gonna see how long that you

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<v Speaker 1>can push off Father time to stay in the lake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely one to watch as nineteen goes. Along with that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to call it a wrap on this edition

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