1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, April seventh, and Disney 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: and ABC dodged a bullet and probably right now are 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: really grateful that they do not have Bachelorette episodes airing 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: the same week that Taylor, Frankie, Paul and her ex 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: ended up intoday's court hearing. And with that, welcome to 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. Rhodes's getting uglier. It's 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: getting uglier. We learned some details today I didn't know about. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: This is getting uglier and uglier. 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: Yes, there was. Yeah, it was an eighty minute hearing 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: in court where you had Taylor, Frankie Paul, and Dakota 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Mortenson's representatives there in court, their attorneys and then Taylor 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: and Dakota were joining this hearing. The zoom correct, they 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: were doing a video. 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: I ever saw them, and the whole time, everybody's done 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: zoom before where you don't want your face shown. It 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: just Taylor Frankie and it said Dakota. 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: That makes sense. I can understand why they might not 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: have wanted their faces there. But it was a hell 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: of a day in court and what the judge had 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: to say and what the ruling ultimately was was also 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: a fairly big blow to Taylor Frankie Paul. 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I'll just start there. She lost in court today. We'll 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: explain what that's about. But she was in court today 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: trying to get visitation with her kid, unsupervised, full visits 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: with her kid, the two year old with kids they ever, ever, ever, 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: the two year old she has with Dakota. That's what 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the hearing was about. The reason Robes they had to 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: have this hearing is because it was immediately right after 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: all the drama and the video came out. They cost 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: her the Bachelorette and they had to be canceled on 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: all this. Dakota went to the court pretty quickly. 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: Yes, he filed a temporary protective order, which he was granted, 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: and that gave him full temporary custody of his son 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: ever and it denied Taylor any parental rights period. She 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to even visit her son until today. They 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 2: said this was the hearing where they would decide things 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: beyond this date. And look at that point, Dakota Mortensen 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: asked for that temporary protective order to become permanent. And 39 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: I would say, and just before the hearing started, Taylor 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Frankie Paul then also filed a protective order against Dakota. 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: All right, so let's take just today's hearing because there's 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: all my like I say, it's getting uglier because we're 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: learning about more incidents and Frankie Taylor Paul is taking 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: more legal action. But to today's point, and I should 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: I guess you can look at it two different ways. 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: She wasn't able to see her kid for the past 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: three weeks. She was in court today asking for that 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: to be lifted and she can go back to whatever 49 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: agreement she had with Dakota about visitation. They were sharing 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: child custody, so she was asking for full unsupervised back 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: to being a mom again. So she did get but 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: something from the judge today she is going to be 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: able to visit her kid, but supervised. Her attorney was 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: really arguing that why should she have to have supervised visits? 55 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's going to continue at least for the short 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this was a This is I was 58 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 2: just imagining it from a mom's perspective. This is very 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: painful because before all of this, before the protective orders 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: were filed, the arrangement was that Taylor Frankie Paul had 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: Ever about seventy percent of the time. Obviously it was unsupervised, 62 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: so she was the primary parental figure in Ever's life 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: just from a shared custody standpoint. 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: And we should point out I didn't know it kind 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: of makes sense, but his attorney's argued in court today 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: he has been taking care of that kid almost solely 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: because she's been traveling. They actually said she's been out 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: of town for months and he has been the sole provider. Wow, 69 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I didn't know if she was. I thought maybe 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: she was bringing him with her because at least look 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: when we saw the end of The Secret Lives of 73 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Mormon Wives that she was heading to La to go 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: film the Bachelorette. They showed her mom and her sister 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: with Ever and he was coming with them. So yeah, 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: I was under the presumption that he was in the area, 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: or at least in Los Angeles, maybe with her mom 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: and her sister while she was filming. But that apparently 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: wasn't the Hay, you. 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: Can tell me if I got this wrong. I'm trying 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: to remember that shot. She has two older kids, does 82 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: she not? She does, but it wasn't them in that 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: at the airport was it the little because where we're 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: talking about now is the two year old, the itty 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: bitty one. This is not the one you all that 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: you all that's in the video that she's throwing the chair. 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: That's a different kid. That's her older, older daughter. Okay, 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: so I am wondering was Ever in that shot or 89 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: was it there? I don't know, see I'm thinking about 90 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: it now, I'm second guessing. So, but it came out 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: and they said in court that he has been primary 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: really taking care of this kid for the past several months. 93 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: She's in there fighting to see they're two year old again. 94 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: And to your point, what's that like for a mom 95 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: o ropes. She hasn't been able to lay eyes on 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: the kid. 97 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: That's devastating. Tell us what that is. And you know 98 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: when they're that little Obviously, Ever isn't really aware and 99 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: will never remember this time where he's been separated from 100 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: his mom. But she is like, it is devastating to 101 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: not be able to see your son and for a 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: court to tell you you're not allowed to be around your son. 103 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: And so yes, she was granted up to eight hours 104 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: per week supervised. That iss an hour a day. Basically, 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: that's it. 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 1: He said six initially, and they asked for a couple 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: more before he did an official ruling. Yeah, he said 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: six at first. 109 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: Wow. And that is all going to be in place 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: until they meet again. I believe that's happening on April thirty, 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: so later this month. But still she was, I'm sure 112 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: hoping to go into court today or at least be 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: a part of the core proceedings today, and walk away 114 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: with a resumed parental rights. And that just did not 115 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: happen for her. 116 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: And we're going to get into some of the judge's 117 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: words here in a moment, but that is the ruling. 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: She gets eight hours. There's also an argument robes. Okay, 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 1: she gets the eight hours. That's not a lot during 120 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: a week, but it was a big argument over whether 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: or not it should be supervised. She didn't want it supervised, 122 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and then after the judge says I needed to be supervised, 123 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: there was an argument over who is the supervisor. Who 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: is going to be in there, somebody that he picks, 125 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: somebody that she picks, or somebody that's independently picked. So 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: that was a big back and forth. Dakota, excuse me, 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to pick his person. She wanted to pick 128 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: her person. The judge. Wow, I said, wow, that's really smart. 129 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: He said, it's better for all parties to have somebody 130 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: independent in the room because you can trust on both sides. 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: She can be in there knowing that somebody's keeping an eye, 132 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: can make sure that she's doing the right thing. If 133 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: he has one of his people in there, she's not 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: going to be comfortable with her kid because you gotta 135 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: think that person spying on her the whole time. I 136 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that makes sense. I'm not sure what 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: they settled on. 138 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: That does make sense. You would not want the person 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: that your ex who is fighting you in court for custody, 140 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: to pick the person who's now watching you, literally watching you. 141 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Then here was the other argument by Taylor Frankie having 142 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: her own person in there. He said, that doesn't really 143 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: protect you because that person can is not in their 144 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: Dakota can argue they're in there, you know, partnering together 145 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: on this and things are going on that we don't 146 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: have an independent voice, he said, we need so. I 147 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: actually don't know how they settled on that, but I 148 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: think an independent person is going to be used. But 149 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: for eight hours, you get to see a kid a 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: two year old, and somebody's gonna be sitting there watching 151 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: you for the whole eight hours that you don't. 152 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: Know, that's rough in your home, monitoring you, and you're 153 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: very aware that they will be reporting back to the 154 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: court what they've witnessed, what they've observed. 155 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about the argument her attorney was making, 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: which is true, but it almost sounds no judge, she 157 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: should have unsupervised visits with her kid. All of her 158 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: anger it was never directed at the kid. 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: Yes, he did say that, he said all of her anger. 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: I actually have the quote. Her anger is very clearly, 161 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: unambiguously directed at Dakota. It has nothing to do with 162 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: the children. So that was part of their argument that 163 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: she's never been abusive deliberately towards her children. 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: If you ever have to say deliberately. 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: I say that just because of the incident on the 166 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: video where she caught her got hit by the metal chair. 167 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: What you're saying is one hundred percent right. The statement 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: should just be I've never been angry or violent towards 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: their children, Yes, deliberately or not. 170 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: But it's interesting because what we have on video and 171 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: the injured child is from another marriage and another custody 172 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: a child situation. This involves ever, which is her youngest, 173 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: and he was not anywhere on those videos that we 174 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,119 Speaker 2: have seen. But there was another video that was referenced 175 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: by Dakota's folks saying that he was potentially at one 176 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: point when some of this aggressive behavior began, that they're 177 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: alleging that he was holding the child when it happened. 178 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: This one is not public and this is frankly, it 179 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: is the first I've heard about it. I don't know 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: if there's reporting on this one, but in court today, yes, 181 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: the judge referenced and they talked about another incident. I 182 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: believe it was the last year if we have the 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: date right, not the February. There's a February incident, but 184 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: there's also. 185 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: There's a twenty twenty four accident there. 186 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to be twenty twenty five. 187 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: It's hard because we don't actually get the specifics or 188 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: the dates, but yes, I believe the incidents that have 189 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: been alleged of domestic violence are obviously the one from 190 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three that got hurt taken off the Bachelorette. 191 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: Then there are these videos that allegedly exist over some 192 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: domestic violence incident in twenty twenty four. And then there 193 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: are the latest allegations that are from February twenty four 194 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: and twenty five of twenty twenty six. 195 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is where I'm getting all my numbers 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: mixed up. So let's go with incident number two, if 197 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: you will, Yes, in chronological order, is in twenty twenty four. Robes. 198 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: The judge you could tell, was himself disturbed by this, 199 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: and he said, I have to take this into account. 200 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: He describes a video. Now he said it in such 201 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a way that mostly audio, but they describe incidents Robes. 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: One of them she kicks down, the kicks in, i 203 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: should say, the door of her two year old sleeping child. 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: And the other one, Robes they describe is an incident 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: in which the child could have been hurt because yes, 206 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: she's going after Dakota, but Dakota's holding a baby. 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 2: Yes, and reportedly Dakota almost fell because she pushed him 208 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: so hard with ever two year old ever in his arms, 209 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: or I guess at that point he would have been 210 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: a baby. Because if we're talking twenty twelve, christ yes, 211 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: how you think about it? Yeah, if we're talking twenty 212 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: twenty four. Oh my gosh, she was an infant, like 213 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: a newborn, like close to like just month months old. 214 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: We're not talking, I mean, and that's even a little scarier. 215 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: It's never obviously a good thing if you're aggressively pushing 216 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: somebody who's holding a toddler, but an infant, okay, they're 217 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: even more delicate. 218 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do then I'll move down to what 219 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the judge said, because you just made a point about 220 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: that that I didn't consider the two year old was 221 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: not two years old in twenty twenty four. Jesus criming. 222 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: He just turned to when all of this went down, 223 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: so like within the last month. 224 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was months old. Oh my okay, I 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: didn't think about less than a year for sure. Okay, 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: So his this last we need to This is why 227 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: he took issue. The judge made these comments and it 228 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: rolled again. It sounded like he didn't want to. He said, 229 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: I have to take this yeriously because that incident occurred 230 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: while the child was in the arms of the petitioner. 231 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: There doesn't seem to be any thought put into the 232 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: effect this might have upon the child, and that way 233 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: heavily on the court. You're attacking a man that is 234 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: holding a newborn possibly uh, and he did several times Robes. 235 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: He said, this is not I'm not here in this 236 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: court to decide domestic abuse one way or another, but 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I have to take into account the behavior I'm seeing, 238 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: even if it's directed at him, children don't seem to 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: stop her. And that's a problem. 240 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: Yes, because actually he said, regardless the reactions that even 241 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: if he was trying to provoke a response, the reactions 242 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: that occur are very troubling. And that does make us 243 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: a lot of sense. He's saying, I don't know Dakota 244 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: could have said something to anger her or done something 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: to provoke a reaction, and still her choice to react 246 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: the way she did is putting that child at risk. Him. 247 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: Hearing him describe that incident, which again we're hearing it 248 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: for the first time, that's a I mean, it's wow. 249 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the stuff's on video. We now are aware, 250 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: at least publicly, we haven't seen that one, but we 251 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: know a judge has, and this is how he described it. 252 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: This is two incidents of this woman not able to 253 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: control herself when it comes to a domestic dispute. That's 254 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: awful to not give a damn about any other one 255 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: in the room and who was it that said? Was 256 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: it you babe? Damn? Where not just hear this? That 257 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the video of her the twenty twenty three incident, Like 258 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the worst part that you just can't get your head 259 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: around is that she tosses this stool. Her child immediately starts. 260 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: Crying, and she doesn't rush to her child. 261 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: What does she do? Keep attacking Dakota. Oh, that was 262 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: a That is the most powerful moment of that video 263 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: is to hear that child start crying. 264 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: And then to not see her mother rush to her aid. 265 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: That came up today in court as well. We'll tell 266 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: you what was said about that also what was said 267 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: by what is attorneys pretty powerful stuff that the judge 268 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: also had to consider. 269 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy 270 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: and TJ, where it was yes, another dramatic day for 271 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul and Dakota Mortenson. This time the drama 272 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: was in the court room. It was all very supervised, 273 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: and we learned that Taylor Frankie Paul is not going 274 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: to be given back her full unsupervised parenting time with 275 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: her two year old son. Ever. In fact, she now 276 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: can only have up to eight hours a week supervised 277 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: visitation with her son and Dakotah's argument. Dakota's attorney's arguments 278 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: were pretty powerful what he had to say about what 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: has happened between the two in court, and it certainly 280 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: swayed the judge. We heard from his attorney saying that she, 281 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul is always the aggressor in every incident. 282 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Can I stop there and let's go, because I don't 283 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: know if we addressed it fully Because I stopped, we 284 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: were taking things in order. We said, this thing has 285 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: got in MESSI or part of the mess. Yes, was 286 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we heard in court today. But 287 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier the temporary restraining order. He was the 288 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: one to initiate first an order for her to stay 289 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: away from the kids, and he got custody. But she 290 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: has now gone out roads and her restraining order she 291 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: wants against him. Right, Yes, has had some pretty serious allegations. 292 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that happened actually today just before the court hearing. 293 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: In fact, her attorney called, he said during the court 294 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: proceeding to day, he said that her temporary restraining order 295 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: against Dakota was hot off the presses. So he said 296 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: that Dakota Mortensen. 297 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Wait, he used that language. 298 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: He used that language, hot off the presses? 299 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Why today? Why fire today? 300 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: Because they wanted it to get the most attention it 301 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: could get, and they knew by being in court, everyone 302 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: was going to be monitoring this court hearing, and so 303 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: if they could get this filing in beforehand, it would 304 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: be a part of the conversation. And think about it. 305 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: If she just she lost in court today, she certainly 306 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: did not get what she wanted. This had to be 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: a devastating blow to her. But they at least knew 308 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: that maybe some of that could be offset by filing 309 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: their version of things and filing a temporary restraining order 310 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: against Dakota, that at least maybe they could get some 311 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: coverage that would be pro tailor anti Dakota. 312 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: So her, she's calling him a physical abuser, yes, she yep. 313 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: The filing alleges that Dakota had a pattern of abusive 314 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: conduct and coercive control, and in this order they detail 315 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: four alleged incidents during their relationship. I don't know that 316 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: I have four, but I know the one that really 317 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: stands out is that she claims that during that incident 318 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: when he took her in his car while her three 319 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: children were still in the hall in February that he 320 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: like against her will, took her in the car, slammed 321 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: her head against the dashboard, and then punched her with 322 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: his fist on her knee and her elbow, which I 323 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: thought was really weird. 324 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: That I don't know, I didn't hear that detail. He 325 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: punched her in the knee, I saw that, and punched 326 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: her in the elbow. 327 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Yes, okay. Her attorney said that Morton said drove away 328 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: with Paul against her wishes. 329 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: Oh so kidnapping, yes, nice. 330 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: Then grabbed her head, slammed it into the dish dashboard, 331 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: hit her knee and her elbow with his fist. That 332 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: sounds painful to the fist what but also maybe as 333 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: he's trying to say that that's why it wouldn't leave marks, 334 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. They also said. They also said that 335 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: they did provide the court with photos of alleged injuries 336 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: that back up her claims and text messages that were 337 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: sent between the two immediately following the incident. That was 338 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: what their proof was in their filing asking for temporary 339 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: restraining order. Yes, claiming physical abuse from Dakota. 340 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: That's serious. Yes, if you bang, If this woman's head 341 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: was banged against a dashboard, that is that is awful. 342 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: When you said punched on, I didn't think you were 343 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: going to say knee and elbow. 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: That really stood out to me as well. That was 345 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: uh and I the only thing I could think about 346 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: was that perhaps the claim is that he punched her 347 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: there because it wouldn't leave a mark. They didn't say that, 348 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: but I'm like, because I'm trying to think, why would 349 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: someone I mean, imagine, in the heat of the moment, 350 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: you're all upset at somebody. You've say, you have taken 351 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: them to the car, you slammed their head on the dashboard, 352 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: you punched their elbow and their knee. It just seems 353 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: so strange. I was trying to figure out why or 354 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: how that would even be a thing. 355 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's got a good aim. It's tough 356 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: to an elbow. It's something else they're describing or it okay? 357 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: Is there? That is okay? That you could have left 358 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: it a dashboard, right, I don't banged her head in 359 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: the dashboard. 360 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty serious. 361 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this was supposedly awful stuff. Yep, that happened. Yep. 362 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: And and the kidnapping. He kidnapped her while her kids 363 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: were sleeping inside her home, so he forced her to 364 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: leave her children, to abandon her children. 365 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: You can add child abuse to this. 366 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: You could. Yes, So this is what they are claiming 367 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: in their court order against Dakota. 368 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, that's also happening. And again we started 369 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: at the top here robes about can you imagine if 370 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: this started coming out while the Bachelorette new episode Sunday, 371 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: what would they do in this mess is playing out 372 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: in real time showing a much different view of the 373 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: woman who's handing out roses. She's handing out roses every week, 374 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: handing out roses, pushing a guy holding your infant child 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: throwing like you to think that those two images could 376 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: have been playing out weekend, week out, and to. 377 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Think that these videos have existed for that long and 378 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: just now coming to light and going into court. And look, 379 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: that is part of what Taylor Frankie Paul's attorney was 380 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 2: saying that you can just see how vindictive he is. 381 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: This is what he's doing, like trying to somehow point 382 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: the finger back at Dakota, saying him releasing these videos 383 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: and him filing these protective orders and asking for custody 384 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: is just retaliation. That doesn't make a lot of sense. 385 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: His side is saying, what this is. What you're saying 386 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: is just things have been escalating since that incident in 387 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and this has been an ongoing, volatile 388 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and violent relationship in which she is always the aggressor, 389 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: says she often will invite him over to her house. 390 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: Her attorneys were trying to make a point that he 391 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: was in some way excuse me, yes, her attorneys that 392 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: he was the aggressor. He was always coming to where 393 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be. Well, he was saying he was invited 394 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: there and possibly she was trying to provoke a trying 395 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: to get an incident or using the child at least 396 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: to start fights upon is the word I believe they used. Okay, 397 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: this is the argument his attorneys continue to make. Whatever 398 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: the argum, Oh, what do you have some of that? 399 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: Well, this is I actually have the exact language that 400 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: her attorneys used about Dakota. They said, Dakota is excellent 401 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: at escalating an aggravating Taylor when she reacts, it's one 402 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: hundred percent of Dakota. Dakota pushes buttons he's excellent as 403 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: that at that. As long as these people stay apart, 404 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: then there's no risk to the child. But they were 405 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: saying he's the aggressor. He pushes her buttons. Again, this 406 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: is kind of classic. He made me do it, like 407 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: he knows how to push my buttons, and I can't 408 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: help my reaction. That's kind of what I was. 409 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: Hearing, regardless the reactions that, even if he was trying 410 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: to provoke a response, the reactions that occur are very troubling. 411 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: That's from the judge. Yeah, fine, so he provoked her 412 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: and she threw barstools. He provoked her, and she pushes 413 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: him with her baby in his arms. The judge took 414 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: issue with that. 415 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and look, we heard from Dakota's attorneys saying, my 416 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: client is doing everything he can at this point to 417 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: protect his son. Period. 418 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: This is going to keep going. And how many weeks 419 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: does the Bachelorette usually go? I mean it's over two months, maybe, 420 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I think. 421 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: That's about right. I think these are usually like thirteen episodes, 422 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: that kind of that's usually the typical format for these 423 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: types of shows. So, yeah, this would have been like 424 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: I would if they had gone forward if the video 425 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: hadn't come out that week, they still would have had 426 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: to pull it off. They would have had to pull 427 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: it off mids and they would have there's no way 428 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: they could promote it, have like fun cute ads for it, 429 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: like all of it would have to go away. So 430 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: whether they started it or was in the middle of it, 431 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: it would have ended badly, abruptly, and people would have 432 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: been like, huh, yeah, I mean, it's best that none 433 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: of it aired, but you still see online people are 434 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: trying to get clips and video. It's all kind of like, 435 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: it's so interesting. People are desperate to see what the 436 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: season would have been, and it just now appears that 437 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: that season could never have been. 438 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because this isn't done. We got another hearing in 439 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: the next few weeks. But if you haven't been paying attention, 440 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: something trickles out. It seems like almost significantly every two 441 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: three days, there's some development. Somebody's done something, said something. 442 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: Files something, and even Taylor Frankie Paul is back on 443 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: social media and she had a big Easter post. He 444 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: has risen, but she also said that she's left the 445 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 2: Mormon faith and just you know, she's still trying to 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: do some pr work and communicate and show how desh 447 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: I think there was one shot of her over the 448 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: toilet like she had been vomiting, like she's so sick 449 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: with all of the publicity and pressure and certainly the courts, 450 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: and now she's you know, look, we don't know if 451 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: her attorneys are claiming no criminal charges are going to 452 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: be filed, but police have not confirmed that. So there 453 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: is zero confirmation that this is over for her legally 454 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: beyond custody, whether or not she would face any charges 455 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: for any of these incidents. But of course we will 456 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: continue to monitor all of the drama coming out of Utah. 457 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: But thank you in the meantime for listening to us. 458 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: As always, I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ. Holmes, and we 459 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: will talk to you soon