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Speaker 2: Cowboys. This is Mick.
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Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: How go Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 2: Stamp a military band?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Maybe, so that's right, And I think it's also I
Speaker 5: love the I never referenced this before, even thought of it,
Speaker 5: but here our bugle blow, and that is like, yeah,
Speaker 5: especially Tommy Loy and even today there's a trumpet that
Speaker 5: plays the national anthem.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and so.
Speaker 4: That was a little foreshadowing. Maybe I don't think. I
Speaker 4: don't think.
Speaker 5: Tommy Loy was doing the national anthem at the time
Speaker 5: that the bugle was blowing on the fight song in
Speaker 5: the sixties. But here we are ready to get into
Speaker 5: a Thanksgiving Day win.
Speaker 4: Like four days later. I walked in the s WBC.
Speaker 5: Podcast studio this morning and I told Everson, I don't
Speaker 5: even remember what happened in the game on Thursday. We're
Speaker 5: going to have to review it just to remind ourselves exactly.
Speaker 3: What I got. I got here to see who we
Speaker 3: were playing, not just but.
Speaker 6: I got here early to remind myself what I wrote.
Speaker 4: A lot.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of water under the bridge since Thursday,
Speaker 5: and one of the droplets of water that happened in
Speaker 5: the meantime.
Speaker 4: Why Mickey is wearing his miszoo gear today is missoo
Speaker 4: one in the snow over Arkansas.
Speaker 6: If I have to watch one more game in the
Speaker 6: snow between last night and what.
Speaker 4: Do you mean if you have to? I love watching
Speaker 4: the snow.
Speaker 3: It's too much. It's too much.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just ruins the guy. I'll take the cold
Speaker 7: in the wind before that.
Speaker 5: Well, especially last night's game, because it just changed the
Speaker 5: whole way they played the game last Yes, I mean
Speaker 5: there was such an advantage if you had already built
Speaker 5: up speed coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 4: It was like those little whether it's.
Speaker 5: A running back or a tight end in motion, just
Speaker 5: rolled Josh Allen out to the right and hit him
Speaker 5: on the run and the defense.
Speaker 4: Had no chance on those little flare passages.
Speaker 3: I don't like I don't like this with Buffalo. I
Speaker 3: just don't. It's not fair to the rest of the NFL.
Speaker 7: You know, the elements being such a factor in the game.
Speaker 3: You know, like you said, it changes the entire way
Speaker 3: that you play.
Speaker 6: Well, I would like to do. I would like to
Speaker 6: take a role call of how many Buffalo players actually
Speaker 6: played ever in that much snow before.
Speaker 3: Well last year once? Yeah, but damn, it's a lot.
Speaker 7: And it seems to be a recurring thing at the
Speaker 7: end of every season. We gotta worry about how the
Speaker 7: fans gonna get to the game, how you gonna sweep
Speaker 7: off the field?
Speaker 3: Come on, man, it's it's a lot.
Speaker 6: They didn't clear off the seats though, you have to
Speaker 6: go sit in the snow, right.
Speaker 5: They've got a new stadium being built there and without
Speaker 5: a roof, but the seats are going to be covered.
Speaker 4: Though apparently.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no roof.
Speaker 4: They said.
Speaker 6: Though there's like a cannon over Texas Stadium sort of.
Speaker 4: Where the seats are covered.
Speaker 5: Like so the wind the snow never blows right, yeah,
Speaker 5: into the seats. You heard it drifts before, especially with
Speaker 5: lake effect winds.
Speaker 4: It did like snow will flutter too, it'd be blown into.
Speaker 6: The wonder which lath was affecting it. Right, got too
Speaker 6: many lakes.
Speaker 4: But so much to get to and to where do
Speaker 4: we start before we are onto Cincinnati? So when you're
Speaker 4: on a Cincinnati Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean the highlights, the highlights of the game.
Speaker 6: Obviously with the Cowboys able to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 6: Rico the career high one hundred and twelve yards rushing
Speaker 6: average five point one carry. I believe he was my
Speaker 6: pick to click.
Speaker 3: By the way, man, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 4: Who was yours?
Speaker 3: I was Ogi O DIGGI zoo I think? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 4: Was Trey Lance? He was going to come off a
Speaker 4: bit on the.
Speaker 3: Right. Thank god that didn't happen. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And the fact that you know I said he rushed
Speaker 6: for a touchdown. It was his first rushing touchdown of
Speaker 6: the season. Wow, and only the Cowboys fourth. The other
Speaker 6: three two for Zeke and I imagine they were one
Speaker 6: or two yard runs, right, and Dak had another.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 6: Really They went into the game with three rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 4: And Zeke's was in the first game of the season.
Speaker 4: It's Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how are we still in the hut? Well?
Speaker 4: Are we somewhe somewhat?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 4: Yesterday? No, yesterday?
Speaker 5: To your point, I think it was CBS, Yes, the
Speaker 5: Network of Record. They put up the graphic that showed
Speaker 5: the NFC playoff picture and they had in the hunt
Speaker 5: which included Dallas at five and seven. They got San
Speaker 5: Francisco at five and six. NBC last night they had
Speaker 5: the exact same.
Speaker 4: Graphic graphic, and they didn't have Dallas in the in
Speaker 4: the hunt.
Speaker 6: They didn't have in the hunt they had, so.
Speaker 4: No, they had to call them in the hunt.
Speaker 3: They did, yes, yes, but.
Speaker 4: They it stopped at San Francisco at five and six.
Speaker 5: They were on their way to five and second, right,
Speaker 5: so they so now Dallas and San Francisco were both
Speaker 5: five and seven.
Speaker 4: So Dallas's arrow is.
Speaker 5: Going up in San Francisco's is going down, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 5: Now the Niners have lost three in a row now, and.
Speaker 3: Running back he's out, he's out again.
Speaker 4: He's PCL this time.
Speaker 6: So that was I was worried that he That gets
Speaker 6: back to.
Speaker 5: Your whole running back, you know, paying the running back.
Speaker 5: You know, it works if Barkley's healthy. If Barkley's not healthy,
Speaker 5: if mccaffery's not healthy, then it doesn't work so much.
Speaker 6: When you see a guy go down like that without
Speaker 6: even getting hit. I was thinking, oh, now he tore
Speaker 6: his achilles because he just gave up slit in the snow.
Speaker 5: Of course you could apply that to the quarterback position too,
Speaker 5: on keeping them healthy when you're paying all that money.
Speaker 5: We know here Trevor Trevor Lawrence yesterday, which is brutal.
Speaker 6: Why was that just awful?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: I apologize, Yeah, good good. That doesn't make the concussion
Speaker 6: go away. That's like who's apologizing at Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 7: In North Carolina and North Carolina State? Yeah, with that
Speaker 7: stuff in Arizona and Arizona.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're gonna plant your flag, you have
Speaker 5: to wait until the other team.
Speaker 6: Has left the field.
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield at least had the sense to
Speaker 4: wait until the field had been cleared.
Speaker 3: We just leave all flags off the field.
Speaker 7: Okay, you got three fights yesterday, nor de line in
Speaker 7: North Carolina State, Arizona, Arizona State.
Speaker 3: And the Mischigan.
Speaker 6: Or do what Sarkesian did? What's that when Texas was
Speaker 6: starting to gather on the logo into the locker room,
Speaker 6: sent them away. I want to go sing your song,
Speaker 6: go to the end zone.
Speaker 7: You got all these people holding on to a tryon.
Speaker 7: You saw that, Hey give it to me. No, no,
Speaker 7: you give it to me. It looked like they were
Speaker 7: ready to dance or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Just okay, now back to Thurst ye, Now, no one
Speaker 5: staked a flag and midfield right, but yeah.
Speaker 6: And then I think the other thing that stood out
Speaker 6: to me was the well obviously overshown, right, But it
Speaker 6: wasn't just that game. I went back and looked since
Speaker 6: Micah Parsons returned, So it's four games now, overshown has
Speaker 6: totaled twenty nine tackles, three sacks, ten quarterback pressures, a
Speaker 6: pass broken up, interception for a touchdown. When's the last
Speaker 6: time you've seen one of those?
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, and it wasn't.
Speaker 6: The ability of teams to have to worry about Micah,
Speaker 6: I think has helped overshown, either on the other side
Speaker 6: or coming in behind him when they're double team and
Speaker 6: triple team and Micah. If you guys went back and
Speaker 6: looked some of the pass rush situations. So the defense
Speaker 6: and once again save the last possession they give up
Speaker 6: a touchdown actually played awfully, awfully well, uh in that game,
Speaker 6: and now can they sustain it going forward? Because Cincinnati
Speaker 6: has been putting up a bunch of points. So those
Speaker 6: couple of things really stood out to me. That and
Speaker 6: the importance of having Brandon Cooks on the on the field.
Speaker 6: I think we've seen him score a touchdown on that
Speaker 6: exact same patterns, only the ball came from Dak and
Speaker 6: then makes the diving catch on third down, uh to
Speaker 6: get the first down. And now you can kneel play
Speaker 6: the game, kneel out the cloud. So those were the
Speaker 6: things that stood out to me.
Speaker 4: How about for you ever since the former Cowboy and
Speaker 4: former Giant.
Speaker 7: You know, I love the win and and you know,
Speaker 7: I guess you could say we put it into perspective
Speaker 7: in some way. But what I keep seeing from us
Speaker 7: even in these wins are the inconsistencies from our mistake standpoint,
Speaker 7: too many mistakes in the game. Still, we made the
Speaker 7: game really closer than it should have been, and it
Speaker 7: messed up my picks to click. So I'm really pissed
Speaker 7: off about that because I was really on the roll
Speaker 7: at that point. It was going to be twenty seven
Speaker 7: to twenty.
Speaker 6: Well, by the way third quarter, I had the score
Speaker 6: twenty seven to ten.
Speaker 4: What was your score?
Speaker 3: Twenty seven? That was going on? It was twenty what
Speaker 3: was my score?
Speaker 4: I think it was twenty seven seventeen.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, something like that. I was right think,
Speaker 3: I think you're right right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so, but what you'll see is just still
Speaker 7: too many mistakes, too many penalties. I see defensively where
Speaker 7: we overcome our mistakes with a lot of good hustle.
Speaker 7: But if we would just be what was supposed to
Speaker 7: be in some of these situations and stop compounding our
Speaker 7: problems with penalties, and that is going to be something.
Speaker 3: That will follow us for the rest of this year.
Speaker 7: I don't know why we're so undisciplined as a team
Speaker 7: in that regard.
Speaker 3: There's one thing. If you talk about holding, I.
Speaker 7: Get that that comes within the moment of the battle.
Speaker 7: But when you're talking about false starts, you're talking about
Speaker 7: illegal formations, things of that nature that have nothing to
Speaker 7: do with your ability to play football. That's just your
Speaker 7: ability to be smart and poised in the right situations,
Speaker 7: and we need that so we can stop shooting ourselves
Speaker 7: in the foot and making the heel that we're climbing
Speaker 7: even steeper. Just doesn't make any sense to me. That's
Speaker 7: what I took away from it. A good a team
Speaker 7: that's stopping them their own selves from being good.
Speaker 5: I hate the fact that it comes down to a
Speaker 5: third and two diving catch by branding goodah.
Speaker 6: Come on, well, and to emphasize what you said, the
Speaker 6: first half, they go field goal right, and it was
Speaker 6: from it was a twenty three yard field goal, so
Speaker 6: you're inside the tent right field goal again, thirty three
Speaker 6: yard field goal, so you're inside the twenty.
Speaker 4: So you're zero for two in the red zone.
Speaker 3: Two already in the red zone.
Speaker 6: And then you go turn the ball over on downs,
Speaker 6: going for it on fourth down, and then you punt punt, punt,
Speaker 6: So they get off to such a question start.
Speaker 4: On that last one.
Speaker 5: It was the CD drop on third and one right,
Speaker 5: and they had that was wow. Yeah, you know, that
Speaker 5: was an example. That was an example of how one
Speaker 5: play can change the complexion of the entire rest of
Speaker 5: the half of that football game. I mean it was
Speaker 5: midway of the second quarter when that happened. To your point, Mickey,
Speaker 5: they had not done in the red zone.
Speaker 4: What they needed to do.
Speaker 5: They had to settle for field goals if not for
Speaker 5: the overshown pick six. Well, even with the overshown pick six,
Speaker 5: you're up thirteen to seven. Yeah, right, but your defense
Speaker 5: gets a sack on third down. Basically it was a
Speaker 5: foe and out for the Giants. Now you're starting to
Speaker 5: cook on offense. Okay, you got a twenty two yarder
Speaker 5: to CD. You were back at your own end of
Speaker 5: the field, twenty two yarder to CD, and then you
Speaker 5: get to a third and one at the forty four
Speaker 5: yard line and CD is so wide open and has
Speaker 5: so much room to run. He was going to take
Speaker 5: it down inside the thirty yard line. Probably that's what
Speaker 5: he thought, too, right, And then I forgot one thing,
Speaker 5: got something, and then you get stuffed on their fourth
Speaker 5: and one. Now they've now basically the whole rest of
Speaker 5: the half, you're spent spinning your wheels, and so you're
Speaker 5: you're at halftime. What was the score?
Speaker 4: It was still thirteen ten thirteen ten at halftime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could have put them away there in the
Speaker 5: second quarter.
Speaker 3: And you know, I get it.
Speaker 7: Even when we look at teams that don't play well,
Speaker 7: they also have moments to where they had this cross
Speaker 7: in the road, you know what I mean, the way
Speaker 7: to where if they would have made this play, it
Speaker 7: would have been closer. If they would have made this play,
Speaker 7: they could have won the game. Even teams like the
Speaker 7: Giants have a chance to with that narrative. But when
Speaker 7: it comes to the Cowboys themselves, we can't let that
Speaker 7: narrative be be spoken.
Speaker 3: Against us if we want to be that team that's
Speaker 3: going to be climbing forward.
Speaker 7: Because you don't see the Eagles, uh hanging there their
Speaker 7: win on whoa, this was the turning point in the game.
Speaker 3: Now, the turning point in the game.
Speaker 7: You know it was many times because they controlled the
Speaker 7: turning points in the game. We don't control our turning point.
Speaker 7: We we we sit here and it's almost like we
Speaker 7: have leave it up to chance. You know, we put
Speaker 7: ourselves in a bad position, put ourselves in a bad position.
Speaker 7: The next thing, you know, we're like, I'm sure glad
Speaker 7: we made that play, because we didn't make it, then
Speaker 7: we'd be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Well, that's too much.
Speaker 6: The turning point for them last night was the run
Speaker 6: by Barkley, right, because neither guy was and Romo kept
Speaker 6: saying it, right, this game is gonna turn on one
Speaker 6: of these guys is gonna get a big run. And
Speaker 6: Berkley got it well to me and Tucker missed two
Speaker 6: field goals and an extra point.
Speaker 3: Man we'll get to that.
Speaker 6: That was a turn. That's five, that's what six to
Speaker 6: seven points?
Speaker 7: While looking at that game, not even being an Eagles fan,
Speaker 7: it was predictable because that's how they play, and I
Speaker 7: don't care who they're playing against. As Lamar Jackson was
Speaker 7: having he was going back, getting back there doing some
Speaker 7: amazing things, improvising his asshole. But when it came down
Speaker 7: to it, you just knew that Philly's defense was going
Speaker 7: to be the ones to win the day. And that's
Speaker 7: the way they've been playing for the last eight games.
Speaker 7: You know, it's consistency there. That was no I was
Speaker 7: never worried when they come out slow because that's what
Speaker 7: they do. And when it's all said and done, the
Speaker 7: pressure gets so intense to where you finally the pipe
Speaker 7: finally bursts. It happens every week for the last eight weeks.
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Speaker 6: with people on Friday. Unbelieved. Now there was a game here.
Speaker 6: I came to watch high school Highland Park versus Reedy
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Speaker 6: through the right. This place was overrun and it was
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Speaker 6: So there's your But I think I'm going to be
Speaker 6: interested in Argyle south Lake Lovejoy. I was thinking former
Speaker 6: south Lake coach.
Speaker 5: Todd Dodge is the head coach at Lovejoy and yeah,
Speaker 5: and they're taking on Argyle, which has been motoring through.
Speaker 5: That's a Class five A and they're at Prosper. Have
Speaker 5: you ever been to Prosper Stadium?
Speaker 2: Going unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Or Alan Allen is probably the taj Mahal. I thought
Speaker 4: n mckinnie's very nice stadium.
Speaker 5: But I haven't been in the Prosper Stadium, but I've
Speaker 5: driven by it and it is a monster.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: Now they all have the big screen.
Speaker 6: Now that's the Oh yeah, of course, weather permit.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 5: I went to a game at Irving School's stadium, which
Speaker 5: is my old high school stadium which is now Joy
Speaker 5: and Ralph Ellis Stadium. Neighbors of mine growing up in Irving.
Speaker 5: They're big philanthropists and they gave a lot of money
Speaker 5: Irving ISD and so South Lake Carol played Hebron quarterback
Speaker 5: by Patrick Crayton. By the way, Patrick Creighton's son is
Speaker 5: a quarterback at Hebron and the now the running back
Speaker 5: who was a wide receiver for Carol is Terry Glenn's son,
Speaker 5: Christian Glenn. Yes, and he had a good game.
Speaker 4: But anyway, it was it was like a trip down
Speaker 4: memory lane for me.
Speaker 5: The first the first football game I ever went to
Speaker 5: was at that stadium. My dad took me to watch
Speaker 5: Irving High School play. Alan Lowry was the who later
Speaker 5: would become the special teams coach.
Speaker 4: He was on the step when you were here.
Speaker 5: He was a quarterback at Irving High sonamental trip down
Speaker 5: memory lane for me thinking about the first football well,
Speaker 5: I may have mentioned this. The first football team I
Speaker 5: ever played for eight and under Irvi William the Tigers.
Speaker 4: We won the championship. Gave forty two to nothing on
Speaker 4: that field. So anyway, that was that was what I
Speaker 4: did on Black Friday, so I went to that game
Speaker 4: and it was really cool.
Speaker 3: Well I was out in the Bayou Classic. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: Grammar got that butts kicked.
Speaker 7: Man, it was tough. I quarter it back, came and
Speaker 7: hit a five year out. Man, it's killing me, but
Speaker 7: you know it was tough. I was honored by g
Speaker 7: Men Nation. You know, you have different foundations on all
Speaker 7: these different schools. So g Men Nation honored me. Uh,
Speaker 7: just for work, job well done.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 7: Of course they want to raise some money, you know,
Speaker 7: you want to have a fundraiser. But went out there
Speaker 7: and had a good time. I gave a speech and
Speaker 7: gave speech to the two guys that really gave me
Speaker 7: all the confidence that I had when I got a Grammar.
Speaker 7: Uh Dwight Scales remember him playing the Rams. Well, his
Speaker 7: baby brother's name is Jerry Gordon. That was my roommate
Speaker 7: at Grambling. And of course Mike Haynes, not these Micaines.
Speaker 7: Everybody I was get. It's just the Mike Canes that
Speaker 7: I knew growing up at Graham and grew up in
Speaker 7: New Orleans. So we were all three three thieves together
Speaker 7: at all times. So I gave them homage doing my
Speaker 7: speech on having them you know, had my back.
Speaker 3: All those years.
Speaker 6: Was the game in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Game is I was in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to make sure you never know what, Yeah, old,
Speaker 6: I almost was gonna drive there, and then I gave
Speaker 6: up on it going to the LA Ship.
Speaker 7: It's it's you know, it's tough getting off in there,
Speaker 7: you know when it's a game, man, it's you know,
Speaker 7: Bourbon Street French, Cause it's just tough getting you might
Speaker 7: as well just walk.
Speaker 3: You all get a or something.
Speaker 6: Oh no, you gotta walk, yeah, because.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the walk is great. So now we had a
Speaker 7: good time as a few tears. After the speech was
Speaker 7: all sitting and done, a few other people were on it,
Speaker 7: had a really good time, had a really good time.
Speaker 6: Well good So we all took in get the weekend off,
Speaker 6: and we all took in football.
Speaker 3: Course of course you did.
Speaker 5: I didn't watch as much football as I could have
Speaker 5: yesterday because I had to get the lights out.
Speaker 7: Very good and comfortable considering we always had two wins
Speaker 7: under our belt for this past week and to be
Speaker 7: able to watch football and not.
Speaker 6: Stress watch everybody else stress.
Speaker 7: I loved it. I even took a nap. So that's
Speaker 7: that's when you relax on the Sunday.
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of that, going into the game Cowboys at
Speaker 6: five and seven, there were teams not leading the division
Speaker 6: and basically not counting, uh well, counting the teams that
Speaker 6: were in the hunt for playoff games wild card, so
Speaker 6: you got to figure that Minnesota and Green Bay probably
Speaker 6: have the top two wild card probably sewed up. But
Speaker 6: of the the five teams or the seven teams ahead
Speaker 6: of the Cowboys with better records, they went five and two.
Speaker 6: So nobody really did the Cowboys any favors because if
Speaker 6: you look at it, you know, Washington wins, so.
Speaker 5: They have the third wild card, my seventh playoff seed
Speaker 5: right now at eight and five, and then they got
Speaker 5: a bye week this week, and then Tampa Bay won
Speaker 5: to move to six and six.
Speaker 4: Times against Carolina.
Speaker 6: Minnesota and Green Bay that were ahead both won the
Speaker 6: Rams one, San Francisco lost, and Arizona lost, so really
Speaker 6: didn't get much of a break. But again the teams
Speaker 6: now ahead of the Cowboys eight and five, Washington six
Speaker 6: and six, Tampa Bay, Minnesota ten and two, Green Bay
Speaker 6: nine and three, Arizona is six and six, the Rams
Speaker 6: are six and six. In San Francisco five and seven.
Speaker 5: So let me shed some light on this. The West teams,
Speaker 5: they just beat up each other, right, Okay, So here's
Speaker 5: what the Cowboys have to do, all right. Obviously the
Speaker 5: next two games, yes, and then you got Tampa Bay,
Speaker 5: that's one of those teams that's not NFC West team.
Speaker 5: You beat them, then you got the tiebreaker on them.
Speaker 5: So all you have to do is be even with them,
Speaker 5: got the end of the day, and then Washington the
Speaker 5: last game of the year, you got to beat them,
Speaker 5: and then you'll have the tiebreaker on them. So you'll
Speaker 5: have the tiebreaker on Washington and Tampa Bay if it
Speaker 5: came down to that scenario where you were tied with
Speaker 5: them and with Washington with a bye week this week,
Speaker 5: Cowboys with a win this week will move back to
Speaker 5: within two games of Washington. Correct, So what you need
Speaker 5: is Washington. Obviously you need help, but there is a
Speaker 5: path to that seventh playoff spot.
Speaker 6: I was going to do you have who Washington has
Speaker 6: to play?
Speaker 4: I've got them right here.
Speaker 5: They've got After this bye week they play at New Orleans,
Speaker 5: Philadelphia at home, Atlanta.
Speaker 4: At home, and at the Cowboys. Now, the Falcons have
Speaker 4: stumbled since they beat the.
Speaker 6: Cowboys, yeah, so San Francisco.
Speaker 4: But New Orleans has revived since firing their coach.
Speaker 6: They lost their first one though, six, and they're sitting
Speaker 6: there at four and eight, and I think I saw something.
Speaker 6: Taysom Hill got hurt again.
Speaker 5: And that you know, we haven't talked about New Orleans
Speaker 5: that that is a huge reason why New Orleans went
Speaker 5: into a tail spin after we saw how important he
Speaker 5: is to that New Orleans team when they played here.
Speaker 6: Same thing with Carr at quarterback too.
Speaker 5: By the way, but it was like Taysom Hill, just
Speaker 5: the things that they can do offensively with him, that's
Speaker 5: an understated part of what they did. And they lost
Speaker 5: him in the Cowboy game and then they went in
Speaker 5: a tail spin after that. So anyway, but you say
Speaker 5: he got hurt again.
Speaker 6: I thought I saw a headline set.
Speaker 3: No, he's out of the season out.
Speaker 6: Yes, So seeing he got hurt and Car got hurt
Speaker 6: at the same time, so they lost him and playing.
Speaker 3: A backup quarterback rookie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And so they kind of went into that tailspin
Speaker 6: then one two with the yeah, and they kept crediting
Speaker 6: the interim coach with the wins that I'm going, No.
Speaker 4: Those two guys came back and played well. It's kind
Speaker 4: of like with the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: Granted the now Washington is obviously a good opponent a road,
Speaker 5: but when you don't have Michael Parsons on your defense,
Speaker 5: it hurts. Aside from the other injuries, and people didn't
Speaker 5: talk enough about, Okay during the five game losing streak,
Speaker 5: how much they missed Micah.
Speaker 3: And you can tell when he came back things were different, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, automatically.
Speaker 5: Back to my page of and by the way, he
Speaker 5: didn't play a full number of plays a snaps the
Speaker 5: first couple of games game back against So since he's
Speaker 5: been back four games, five and a half sacks, one
Speaker 5: force fumble, tackle, eleven tackles, one tackle for a loss,
Speaker 5: and twenty quarterback pressures twenty So when I compared Overshawn
Speaker 5: to his return, that helped overshown, Well, look at what
Speaker 5: he did too, because teams had to pay attention to
Speaker 5: him and they got Brandon Cooks back. Now we'll see
Speaker 5: what happens on the offensive line of Zack Martin gets back,
Speaker 5: But the brock Hoffman played well. Ferguson's been out the
Speaker 5: last couple of games, you get Zack Martin back, Maybe
Speaker 5: you get Ferguson back. Marshawn Lenelan came back and then
Speaker 5: he missed the Thursday game irritated his knee. And there's
Speaker 5: talk about DeMarcus Lawrence getting back into practice this week,
Speaker 5: but who knows if practicing means playing. You may need
Speaker 5: another We saw what happened with Brandon Cooks looking like
Speaker 5: he was doing well in practice and then.
Speaker 6: No, he's not quite ready. And on top of that,
Speaker 6: they lose Josh Butler toys Al that was heartbreaking. Thomas
Speaker 6: meniscus injury. He'll be out two to three weeks.
Speaker 4: It seems like.
Speaker 6: Could come back, but the Josh Butler won, So now
Speaker 6: we need more cornerbacks. Well, you gotta hope Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 6: gets back. I mean they were out there the rest
Speaker 6: of that game with Jordan Lewis playing left corner and
Speaker 6: mcwamu who got taken advantage of in the slot.
Speaker 5: Because the other thing that's happened is Kayln Carson's gone
Speaker 5: on injury reserve too, which happened before.
Speaker 6: And you saw what they thought of Andrew Booth. They
Speaker 6: activated him from the practice squad and then made him
Speaker 6: one of the inactives.
Speaker 4: So you're using one of your elevations.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 4: Interesting, well creative.
Speaker 6: The only thing at cost him It cost you money,
Speaker 6: Sally recap because they got to pay him the rook
Speaker 6: or whatever. The second year minute also cast him in elevation. Right, Well,
Speaker 6: they did the elevation because of that, Right, They didn't
Speaker 6: want to deactivate somebody else that they needed, so they
Speaker 6: they activated them to make them innut.
Speaker 5: But that you wouldn't use an elevation waste one of
Speaker 5: you only get three elevations with a player.
Speaker 6: I thought, oh yeah, yeah, but they don't want him
Speaker 6: to play.
Speaker 3: So back to Diggs, Yes he's going to play.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So if he.
Speaker 6: Doesn't play, that's not good news because now they don't
Speaker 6: have Josh Butler to start.
Speaker 7: We won't have any We don't have any cornerbacks.
Speaker 6: Out there and back in the slot get kem On
Speaker 6: Hall and Hall basically special teams.
Speaker 4: But he's more of a slot corner.
Speaker 6: I don't think he got any defensive snaps. I don't
Speaker 6: know he didn't. He got twenty three special team snaps,
Speaker 6: which is quite a bit because they lost Josh Butler
Speaker 6: off special teams basically because he was starting.
Speaker 3: So what do these do. We just took a bad
Speaker 3: step because he was.
Speaker 6: On the sideline and you saw him grab his knees.
Speaker 7: Immediately as he went down because he never got a
Speaker 7: chance to go up for the ball.
Speaker 4: So sad because he I mean, he's having the ball,
Speaker 4: gets his.
Speaker 5: Opportunities, making the most of it and playing well and
Speaker 5: then back home thanksgiving team captain and all that, and
Speaker 5: uh then he goes down.
Speaker 6: Yep, that one's tough to deal with. But yeah, Diggs
Speaker 6: needs to get back out there.
Speaker 5: And be the first time that Digs and Bland and
Speaker 5: Lewis are all together playing.
Speaker 6: It still hasn't happened.
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Speaker 4: Okay, since we haven't been able to talk together since
Speaker 4: the Thanksgiving Day game, anything else from the Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5: Weekend that was on your mind that you want, We're
Speaker 5: gonna have a lot of time to talk about Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: The rest of this week and so forth, but we
Speaker 5: need to wrap up this weekend and anything. Of course,
Speaker 5: Matt Eberflus was let go on Friday after that debacle
Speaker 5: at the end of the Bears Lions game on Thursday.
Speaker 6: Now worse than the debacle. He tried to explain it away.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm that's what got him fired. Just say it.
Speaker 3: We blew it. But he kept saying, this was the
Speaker 3: right call. We did everything.
Speaker 6: What do you think they thought?
Speaker 4: Here's what I think.
Speaker 6: You think he was trying to steal an extra play.
Speaker 5: No, I think it, and I don't want to put
Speaker 5: it on Caleb Williams, but it will sound like I am.
Speaker 5: I think he's got a rookie quarterback who you know,
Speaker 5: they have the communication up until they cut it off
Speaker 5: in fifteen seconds, and I was looking at the play clock,
Speaker 5: looking back at it and trying to see, okay, when
Speaker 5: was the communication cut off.
Speaker 4: It came out to.
Speaker 5: A certain point where let's just say it was fifteen
Speaker 5: seconds on the game clock. And so it's got to
Speaker 5: be the coach when he sees it gets down to
Speaker 5: ten seconds and he sees him not doing and the
Speaker 5: quarter was.
Speaker 6: Doing this stuff, trying to get guys lying.
Speaker 4: You got to call time out.
Speaker 5: Right, and you just say, okay, just call it, abort it, Okay,
Speaker 5: the coach call it. And so it's definitely on Eberflus.
Speaker 5: But what I'm thinking as far as him not taking
Speaker 5: or basically saying that, I think he's protecting his quarterback
Speaker 5: on the post game, and so that's why we and
Speaker 5: I didn't listen to what he said, but I heard
Speaker 5: that he did not say that they made a mistake whatever,
Speaker 5: and he felt like they were did they had to
Speaker 5: plan in place as far as how they're going to
Speaker 5: handle that situation now, he needs to take ownership himself
Speaker 5: and say, hey, we should have called time out with
Speaker 5: ten seconds left when we saw we weren't getting the
Speaker 5: playoff in time.
Speaker 4: But I think why he said what he said in.
Speaker 5: The post game, he was protecting his quarterback who basically
Speaker 5: had made the mistake of not managing.
Speaker 7: Their rookie cord exactly, It's okay to make a mistake
Speaker 7: in your situation. He's never been here before. This is
Speaker 7: probably this was his moment two.
Speaker 4: That's the only way.
Speaker 5: As a rookie, that's the only way I can explain him.
Speaker 5: Even the day after, which is crazy that they even
Speaker 5: had a press conference the day after with the coach.
Speaker 4: And they fired an hour later.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: That. That's the only way I.
Speaker 5: Can explain why he would have said what he said.
Speaker 5: I think he was protecting his quarterback.
Speaker 6: And the other thing is maybe he'd seen his kicker
Speaker 6: hit the ball off the upright in presser situations and
Speaker 6: he's thinking, Okay, we got to get a play, we
Speaker 6: got to score a touchdown. I don't know, and Iberflus
Speaker 6: is smarter than that. I mean, good guy too, it's
Speaker 6: just too good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to you know, but not trying to throw
Speaker 3: the quarterback.
Speaker 7: I had a feeling it's okay, if it's a rookie,
Speaker 7: try to back then.
Speaker 3: Man, let's just go forward with it. Hey, man, I
Speaker 3: got your back, you know. You go ahead and do
Speaker 3: what you say what you got to say.
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna be I'm gonna take the blame, but
Speaker 7: I'm not going to take the blame in front.
Speaker 5: Of I think Caleb and his in Caleb's postgame did it.
Speaker 5: It sounded like he didn't know that they had a time.
Speaker 6: Out left or yes, I think I heard somebody play it.
Speaker 5: It sounded like in his post game that he did
Speaker 5: not realize they had a time out left.
Speaker 7: Well see, but at that point, once that's admitted, then
Speaker 7: it's too late, you know.
Speaker 6: But you know he was going to get fired anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and that's the unfortunate thing because.
Speaker 4: He's spend Christmas with his family and don't have to
Speaker 4: do this anymore.
Speaker 6: And the other thing was is, remember they fired the
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator, so they needed to hire a like that
Speaker 6: helped things out right. It's like somebody I saw was
Speaker 6: it read it today? Did did Texas Tech? Like clean
Speaker 6: house on offense or defense? And the defensive coaches they
Speaker 6: all got fired. It's like, oh okay, but I think
Speaker 6: Chicago was going to move on. I think they realized
Speaker 6: they've got to find a offensive coordinator that can take
Speaker 6: care of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: Maybe to find they need.
Speaker 4: To find a head coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, offensive line, they need to find offensive line exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't care jo Field, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: Just to set the table for tomorrow, Cincinnati needs to
Speaker 6: find offensive linemen.
Speaker 3: Well, not not not till well.
Speaker 4: After most of the team. Yeah, most of the teams
Speaker 4: that are struggling, that's the source of it. But their
Speaker 4: offensive line.
Speaker 6: That poor kids getting just killed back there. I don't
Speaker 6: know how he stays.
Speaker 4: Healthy get to my team.
Speaker 5: In college, the issue is the offensive line has to
Speaker 5: be fixed.
Speaker 4: Georgia Georgia Tech game. Did you watch it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Most of it.
Speaker 5: They gotta do something about this overtime rule in college football.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you cannot decide.
Speaker 7: That it's gonna come down to college football watching the game, like, okay, we're.
Speaker 4: Going to get into this college.
Speaker 6: On it.
Speaker 5: We're going to get into this college football playoff, and
Speaker 5: it's going to come down to two point conversion tries
Speaker 5: to determine the national champion, back and forth.
Speaker 4: Back and record.
Speaker 3: What's the record? Well, it's eight. Now, that was the
Speaker 3: red that was.
Speaker 4: From that game.
Speaker 5: And now Texas and M and LSU and the old rule,
Speaker 5: they played seven overtime. So that's when they decided we
Speaker 5: got to change it. And so now the first overtime
Speaker 5: you can kick the extra point. Okay, the second overtime
Speaker 5: you have to go for two, and the third overtime
Speaker 5: and on it's just two point tries.
Speaker 6: Back, you want just play football?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's well.
Speaker 6: You know what in in hockey.
Speaker 5: How about the NFL rule both teams get an opportunity
Speaker 5: with the ball unless you score a touchdown or whatever
Speaker 5: on your first possession.
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they had they probably if you add
Speaker 5: up all the plays, they probably had more plays with
Speaker 5: the two point tries and the eight overtime than what
Speaker 5: you would have in a normal overtime period.
Speaker 6: Hockey, you screw it up and play skills in overtime
Speaker 6: during the regular season, right.
Speaker 4: But they play hockey in the postseason.
Speaker 6: But but they play hockey in the postseason, don't they.
Speaker 6: What happens in baseball with the ghost runner?
Speaker 4: I don't do they put the ghost runner out there?
Speaker 6: I thought they playing the extra innings in the season.
Speaker 5: It may they may in the postseason, you know, because
Speaker 5: they change theirs to put the ghost runner on at
Speaker 5: second base in extra innings in baseball in the regular season.
Speaker 8: In the postseason they do regular they yeah, they go
Speaker 8: back season, they do regular.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And you don't see the NBA turn overtime into a
Speaker 6: three point shooting contest?
Speaker 11: Is that?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: It sure was last night. I'm just saying that kid
Speaker 6: from Portland scored twenty four points in the third. I
Speaker 6: don't think he hit a basket. He hit maybe eight
Speaker 6: and threes. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 5: Well, they're all still preseason games in the NBA. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean regular starting till April.
Speaker 6: But yeah, just just play football that don't. Don't turn
Speaker 6: it into a two pright.
Speaker 5: I did hear a suggestion this morning, like for the
Speaker 5: college rule is instead of starting at the twenty five
Speaker 5: yard line, start at the forty five yard line, put
Speaker 5: back where you have to at least get a first
Speaker 5: down to get into field goal territory. And I would
Speaker 5: be more in favor of something like.
Speaker 6: That, Yeah, because yeah, something has to change.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that's right, all right. I think we're out
Speaker 4: of time unless you get something else you want.
Speaker 6: To I think I'm good about for tomorrow. We talk
Speaker 6: offensive line tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Okay, we will.
Speaker 5: And how many snaps of Tyler god And getting fourteen
Speaker 5: in that game?
Speaker 6: Yeah, because gid And got way too many?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, Tuma got the rest of it.
Speaker 6: I mean, uh, Tuma gotten way too many. Sorry Guitton,
Speaker 6: you didn't walk out of the room. You don't know
Speaker 6: what I was doing in the press box.
Speaker 4: All right, we talked Tuma Edoga and will get Mickey's
Speaker 4: opinion on the tackle situation tomorrow at high noon here
Speaker 4: on Mixed Shots, Go Cowboys.
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