1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: We're back with another School Stories presented by three M, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: catching up with Vikings legend and old buddy of mine, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Matt Burke. Welcome back to school Stories presented by three M. Tonight, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: we're catching up with a hometown kid who was able 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: to play for his hometown team. He was the anchor 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: of the Vikings offensive line for a decade, named one 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: of the fifty Greatest Vikings of all time, and went 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: on a cap office career with a Super Bowl victory 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Please enjoy tonight's conversation with Vikings legend Matt Burke. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: It is with much I would I say it. Pleasure 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: is not the right word. It just feels good to 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: have Matt Burke here. Matt, how you doing? You look fabulous? 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: How you been I've been? How have I been? I've 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: been good, Peter and good. I've been good. Man. Busy. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I know that I'm always busy, which is good time 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: as the Devil's playground. Eight kids, eighteen kids, eight kids, 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: so twenty one years old down to seven. So I 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: got the gamut right now. Pray for me, Pray for 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: my wife. It's like you don't have to think about 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: that the blessing, and I guess in disguise with all 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: that is, you don't have to like schedule stuff, meaning 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: if you want to do something, you just go home 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: and be around everybody, and something is going to happen, 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: something is going on. I never wake up wondering do 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I have anything to do today. There's always the dock, 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: it's always full. And then if I can do all that, 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: then I could do something that I want to do. 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: And the problem is is that you can't get rid 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: of them. No, right, you can't try. You can't try. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, we have forgotten kids at places. I'm not kidding, 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: but people have doors open, they find their way back. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: It's all good, Peter, it's all good. You know that. 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Oh I think about how long I've known you know, 35 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: we've been together, and I've known you since my rookie year. Yeah, 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: since your rookie year. But it's like, right now, at 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: this moment, the thing I think about is this studio, 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: this building, this facility, and comparing it to winter parts insane. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Every time I walk in here, it's just like this 40 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: is not how it used to be. And I'm glad. 41 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: I am so glad. I don't know how you feel. 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I am so glad that our era was the winter 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Park era was no social media. Back then. We knew 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: Winter Park wasn't very nice, right, Like we knew it 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: wasn't a great facility. Like I mean in the summer 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: when you'd walk into the locker room and there'd be 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: the air conditioner, the mobile air conditioner ducks that you'd 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: have to walk over, but you know what it was like, 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: or the removable lockers for oh yeah, for the cutdowns. Yeah, 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: but it was like this is but this is ours, man, 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is like this is ours, this is us. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: It was part of our identity, like having the less 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: than adequate facilities. I know there's a lot of stuff 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: that you've done, but I want to dig into what's 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: going especially the equipment room because that was pretty much 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: the locker room back in the day. But how much 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: time we spent there. So I don't know if you've 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: been down in the new equipment room, but they've recently, 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: you know, named it the Dennis Ryan Equipment Room, and 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a that's something that's different. It was 61 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: it's unofficially they just they finally just put his name 62 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: up there. You you know, you and Hutch you carry 63 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: on the tradition of the cribbage and with Dave Dixon 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and Walsh and Freddy and just let the fans know 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about what that was all about, because 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: you guys had a bit with the paper and the 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: crosswords and the well, that's what it was all about. 68 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you said I'm going to work, I 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: mean I thought of you know, my office was the 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: equipment room was back there by the dryers. D Ryan 71 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: that we had the table and I mean not a 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: nice table, right, like just a for mica table and 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: some some crappy chairs. But yeah, we'd read the paper 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: in the morning. D Ryan had the best coffee there. 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: You'd do the crosswords, you'd play cribbage at lunch. That 76 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: that was the quote the office. If I wasn't in meetings, 77 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't lifting. If I did get treatment, it was 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: like hey Chuck, Hey Freddy, can I do this in 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the equipment room? Right right? You can't move the curbbage 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: game into the training room. No. So it's like you know, 81 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: everything was that was that was like home. That was 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: that was office. That was that was the home that was. 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: That was when I'm going to work. I've pictured myself 84 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: sitting in the equipment room and you and you carry 85 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: down the tradition. And I don't know what it was 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: with Centers that day because Jeff Christie was just tried 87 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: to emulate Jeff Christie everything he did, or Morris when 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: you'd walk in to get a coffee and then all 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's he's long snapping from one end 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: of the locker room to the other, and you're, you know, 91 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: trying to hit people as you walk in. Those are 92 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: the best. I mean that the memories. Yeah, back you know, 93 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: back there was like a speakeasy. Yeah, not that you 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: needed one, but you think all the locker rooms the 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: inner sanctum, right, But it was like the equipment room 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: was even a more exclusive club. It wasn't like anybody, 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean anybody could come back there, but it was 98 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: typically offensive linemen, you know, like Moss would come back there. 99 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Once in a while. We'd kind of be like, hey, 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: can we see your credentials to get in here? You know, 101 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: we'd big boy him a little bit. I mean, the 102 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: old lineman kind of ruled it. And uh, whether it 103 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: was during the week or Fridays. Remember Friday afternoons the 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: best one o'clock you're done. Foods in the locker roomverybody, 105 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: big plates of food. Go back there. The week is done. 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: And when I was single, I mean, we we're done 107 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: at one o'clock. I can remember leaving work at five 108 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: five thirty to play four hours of cribbage on Friday. 109 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Freddy back there telling us that we would 110 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: we weren't. We're not tough enough to play back in 111 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: the day and Lurtsma coming by. Gosh, those were That's 112 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: how Freddy. That's how Freddy paid off his cabin right, 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: was just playing cribbage. Freddie would teach everybody how to 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: play cribbage. But yeah, we always started out playing for money, 115 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: so it was an expensive less I was just going 116 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: to say that was the most expensive lessons, you know, 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: not guitar lest no, no piano, no, no cribbage lessons 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: or you know what. Though, But you guys did respect 119 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the space because I don't ever recall a fight occurring 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: in the locker room. I remember him in the training room. 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: One of the one of the one of the one 122 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: of the most infamous ones with Henry Thomas and and Cooper. 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: When Coop was clipping his toenails and letting him fall 124 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: over the place, and Henry Thomas took except until it 125 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: He's like, put a damn towel on your feet. And 126 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: the next thing you know, this spills out into the 127 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: locker room and John Randall jumps in on it and 128 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: it was but yeah, we just it's like you respected 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: that space. The fights and stuff never spilled into the equipment, No, never, 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think you respected the space because he respected 131 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: Dennis Ryan. I mean d Ryan, he was like so hospitable. 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Tough job being the equipment manager, right, 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: especially in winter park way too small a space, stuff everywhere, 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: probably a huge pain in the butt to have us 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: back there in his way going into the cooler and 136 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: getting cokes and breaking all his cop He's probably I 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: don't need this, But I think I think he loved 138 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: it too, right, He loved he just loved us being 139 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: there as he would just work like at this, at 140 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: this unbelievable pace. He didn't have to go find anybody 141 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: because we were already in there. That's where we were. 142 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you didn't, I'm going to 143 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: digress for one second and tell my favorite Jeff Christie 144 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: story ever is when he's mess He's in there messing 145 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: around with the football and he knocked out a ceiling 146 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: to us, yes, and Dennis Ryan goes, hey, you know 147 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: those are like twenty but a peace and Christy's like, 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: oh my god, really and then he walks over bam, 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: knocks out another one. And he goes down the line 150 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: with about six of him and he looks at d Ryan. 151 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: You know there's that white stuff all over floy He 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: looks at the Ryan he goes, send me the bill. 153 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Oh those are good days. Pick it up. So Prep Bowl? 154 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: You doing anything for the that's that's coming up? You 155 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: doing anything is just creating involved in it? I mean yeah, 156 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean you rebuilding. You played in the in the 157 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: uh what do they call it? The Super Bowl, which 158 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: is like the Prep Bowl for the NFL? Right, yeah, 159 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: it's similar. Yeah. Yeah. The Super Bowl is kind of 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: a big Chad Abbott, I guess is representing again they 161 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: representing Saint Thomas came I might go this year because 162 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: because Saint Thomas Academy is in it. Are you gonna do? Okay? 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: If you go, are you going to try to do 164 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: a box like talk to Jay here and say, dude, 165 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: get me a box. I want the TV. I want 166 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: the Oh no, I just so I was gonna say, 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: are you just gonna sprawl out in a section with 168 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: the twenty two kids? Well, here's what I remember, Like, so, 169 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I actually play in the Prep Bowl my junior year. 170 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: We played in the championship my senior year and junior 171 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: we had no business being there. We got blown out 172 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: by Lakeville my senior year. We thought we were going 173 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: to win the state yet we should have, and we 174 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: lost nine to seven. That back when footballst football, right 175 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: when you had full backs and like three tight ends. 176 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: We lost nine to seven to Apple values receivers numbers 177 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: in the eighties. Yeah, through them like four times a 178 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: game in high school. I'll say this though, the Prep 179 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Bowl though to be able to play in the ball 180 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the old Metrodome, but in this news that is such 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: an awesome thing for these guys. Well, but I can 182 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: remember vividly when we walked in there the first time 183 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: my junior year in the semi finals, and I mean 184 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: it was the old Metrodome, which ye know we didn't. 185 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: That was that was as nice as it got back then, 186 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: and I remember walking on the field and looking up 187 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and there was like twenty thousand people there. Maybe wow, 188 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: so it's like two thirds empty. Yeah, but you're still like, 189 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I can't believe how big this place is. 190 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: I can't believe how many people are bigger? Right, And 191 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: I told somebody whose son is it? Played there the 192 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: other night, I said, your son asked him after the 193 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: game how his legs felt when he walked down the field, 194 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: because I can remember when I walked down the field, 195 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't feel my legs. I was like walking on air. 196 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: As a high school kid, you're so excited. I mean, 197 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I listen, I've played in a million games since then, 198 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: bigger games. I can remember that like it was yesterday 199 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: in the tunnel. In the tunnel, I remember thinking, tunnels 200 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: is like ten miles long. This is where the vikings 201 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: come out. You know, you feel like it's like part 202 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: you're playing your game and part you're at fantasy camp. 203 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Because for a high school kid, you're like, this is 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: the best thing ever. Now, fast forward, you know, you 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: go to Harvard and do a bunch of good stuff, 206 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: right whatever, you play football there, do well well? Your 207 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: dams But my point is is, think about this way. 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Did take away from your first walk down that tunnel 209 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: as a professional? I mean, because that's a preseason game, 210 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and your rookie year. A preseason game is a game 211 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: that's like the super Bowl. It may as well be. Again, 212 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: that's just when you're a sixth round pick. Weren't you 213 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: a seventh seventh rounder pick your sixth seventh round pick? 214 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: That preseason game, that's the super Bowl. My first preseason 215 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: game in the NFL, we played in Dallas. It was 216 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: we had five that year. This is this is my 217 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: intro to the NFL. First of all, it's one hundred 218 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: and fifteen degree. The game was at seven or whatever, 219 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: but it's still hot. We flew down the day of 220 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: the game, hung out in a hotel. We hung on 221 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: a hotel two hours, and then went over to the stadium. 222 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Felt pretty hydrated. Yeah, I felt pretty sure. But my 223 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: dad played for the Cowboys, so that was kind of cool. 224 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I played for the Cowboys. Yeah, he was not that 225 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: he was on the original team in nineteen sixty. I 226 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: had no idea. Neither did that until I was about, 227 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, sixteen. Anyway, Wow, But it's so that part 228 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: of it was cool to play. It wasn't the same 229 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: they played in the Cotton Bowl back in the day. Whatever, 230 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: But still I can't imagine that happening being you know, 231 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: you played on that field before and then coming out 232 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: there and saying, yeah, I know where everything is it 233 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: to tell me, it wasn't like that at all, you know, 234 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you know how the angst that you have well before 235 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: every game, it wasn't like it ever got that much easier. 236 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: I'd always get so worked up, and I was like, 237 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: oh man, you're in year ten, it must be pretty 238 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: easy for him, Like, you gotta be kidding me, right, 239 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm scared. You know. I remember a rookie year. I 240 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: remember it was. It was in ninety eight, so I 241 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: had been around for five years and we had Tom 242 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: al Vadatti, remember him, in course, Tom, you know with 243 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: the V neck and the you know, the whole thing. 244 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: He slightly We're stretching before one of the preseason games 245 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: and he walks by me and instead of saying, you know, 246 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: let's go, you know, be you know, we need your best. 247 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Let's you know, be your best, that kind of thing, 248 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: something positive like they do today, he goes he just 249 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: looks at me and goes, yeah, you need to play 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: well today. Thanks. I didn't know that, and I'm like, yeah, 251 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Ron obvious, thank you. But what does 252 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: that mean? Does that mean I'm out? Does that mean 253 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm you know, my magnet he was moved down on 254 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: the chart or I mean what what? But no, you're 255 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: very great play What does that mean? So kind of 256 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: a different era too, right, Like, okay, so ninety eight 257 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: I get there. Well you got Todd Stucy Random, make 258 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: the end of that offensive, Jeff Christie, Dave Dixon, and 259 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Corey Stringer. Yeah, oh and Nevertt Lindsay too. Yeah. So 260 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: it was sort of like, I mean, who do you 261 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: think got the brunt of everything from Mike Tyson, all 262 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: the vets, me and Lewinsky. Well, but the whiskey didn't 263 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: come till after Kay he got cut by Detroit and 264 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: then they signed up. So I was the draft pick 265 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: in Tys is like I went on, I stuck all 266 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: my neck for you. That's why we drafted you. So 267 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: like every time I screwed up, He's like, I stuck 268 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: all my neck for you. 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It's a rite, a passage, rite a passage. 284 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember random, I remember before, like Corey 285 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: and I were cool, like, but I you know who 286 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: was like Corey was like, you know, the greatest guy ever, right, 287 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: I mean, just big loving fun right one but before 288 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: he comes up to me one time, he's just dead. Seriously, 289 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: goes hey Burke. Tomorrow, bring me twenty bucks. And I'm 290 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: looking and I don't know, and I think he's kidding, 291 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: and he then like he's kidding, and I was like, man, 292 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I making sure I show up with twenty bucks tomorrow 293 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: in case this guy really wants it. Like that's just 294 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: how it was. And then you know, you throw Morris 295 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: into the mix. So it was like, well, how about this. 296 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: I remember my rookie year New Year's eve Day. It 297 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: was a friday, done it one, eat some food, play 298 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: some cards. I go. I'm still a rookie, right, so 299 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like along for the ride. I 300 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: know this team's like we're fifteen and one, Like, don't 301 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: don't be the guy that screws anything up. Like just 302 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: let these guys do what they do. And I'm gonna 303 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl with these guys. Just be 304 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: a chameleon. And Wallflower just blended. And I'm sitting at 305 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: home and I'm like, oh, watch the ten o'clock news, 306 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: because that's what you did back then. You watch the 307 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: ten o'clock news and they get to us the sports 308 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: section of the news, and uh uh, Eddie Carow. Eddie 309 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: Carow is doing the sports and up you know, above 310 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: his above his shoulder, there's a there's a graphic and 311 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: it says Matt Burke and there's a picture of my locker. 312 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: And they do a story and you and Morris had 313 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: pulled my locker out onto the field. You got chairs 314 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: there and you're holding like a little a little press 315 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: conference interview talking about oh yeah, Matt's good, probably home 316 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: right now, sleep and he's you know, he's a good guy. 317 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: He's a good boys. He's in bed early. He's going 318 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: to show up tomorrow and he's going to see his 319 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: locker on the field. Remember rookie, had you get there 320 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: like six am the left or like the early lift hand. 321 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: And so all night I'm thinking, oh my gosh, burstitch 322 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: and more. They put my they put my locker out 323 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: in the field. I'm gonna I'm gonna get in trouble 324 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: for this. The clothes are all wet flows I'm but 325 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to get in trouble. Like then 326 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's going to be like, why is Burke 327 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: being a distraction? I show up at like five a m. 328 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I get there and I'm like, there's 329 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: no security, Git right, anybody could pull in the winter 330 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: then and I'm looking it's pitch black, and I'm looking 331 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: around the field, like where is my locker? And of 332 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: course d Ryan is already there, and I'm like, Dennis, 333 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: where's my locker? And this is like I brought it in, 334 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm thinking all night we just hung 335 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: a hose over the gold I remember that, Yes, I 336 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: mean you, but that's what you guys did. That's how 337 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: it was, and that was just the the culture. And 338 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: and they say this, Matt, hurt people, hurt people. Well, yeah, 339 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: you were sky when you were a rookie, right with 340 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: with my with Jack del Rio and Greg Manusky, right 341 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Carlos Jenkins. I mean knew I was brutalized every day 342 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: every you can't you're in number one. We're in camp 343 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: for five weeks and then every day you wake up, 344 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: which is bad enough because you can't go play cards 345 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: at night because you got to study your playbook cause 346 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Money Kiffin and goes nuts. And by the way, that 347 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: that's don't want you playing cards, and you're not welcome 348 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: being the rookie in the room. You know what I mean, 349 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: my rookie year, Money Kiffin told me you you are 350 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: not allowed to ask questions, could ask questions, and to 351 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: ask a question care back then it's like if you 352 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: make it fine, good for you. But if you don't, 353 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: we don't care. There's no onboarding process for rookies in 354 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. Back Hey, walking walking, you know, from from 355 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: Gage Hall to the locker room. I'm like this, what 356 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: what is it going to be today? Is it going 357 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: to be vasoline inside my helmet? Is it going to 358 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: be an few stickers stuck? You know? Monusky took that 359 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: little label maker, you know, and he put it behind 360 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: my little rubber thing in the back of my helmet. 361 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: And we're in the middle warm ups and he stops 362 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: warm ups and goes, MONI, come here, look at this. 363 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: And he comes back and deals with Donna says, f 364 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: you money on the back of it, and Moni gets it, 365 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: and he's like, can you believe that you disrespect how 366 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: much these guys hate you, right, you know, And I'm 367 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: just like I'm sitting there and going, oh my god, 368 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die two days. There is times I can 369 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: vi remember biking because I we had bikes then when 370 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: I got there, we'd bike from Gage Hall to the 371 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: locker room and biking in that little street. It's like 372 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: two blocks right, And I was like, I wouldn't mind 373 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: if a car hit me right now, Like don't don't 374 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: kill me, but just knock me off my bike. So 375 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: like I sprained my shoulder or something, I can't. I 376 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: don't have to practice number one. Number two, you talk 377 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: about being you know who brutalized me more than anybody, 378 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: Johnny Randall. Really well, everyone's like, oh, it's awesome, you 379 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: made the team. You're playing for the bikes. And I'd 380 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: be like, do you know what I do every day? 381 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: I do it to work and I do Randall's not 382 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: taking any one on ones. So I do one on 383 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: ones against Johnny Randall, never block them. And I'm on 384 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: the scout team. So I go against Johnny Randall every day. 385 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I never block him. And he would tell me about 386 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it in the locker room, in the bathroom, in the 387 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: weight room, and so this is like this just because 388 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: you liked you. Well, so this is in the super 389 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Bowl when the Super Bowl is here, him and I 390 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: were doing something together and we're in like the green 391 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: room or whatever, and I said, hey, I said you 392 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: know this. I just want to make sure you know 393 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I ef and hated you my rookie year, like you 394 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: were said a jerk. And he looks at me and 395 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: he goes, I know, he goes. But that's how those 396 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: guys were to me, and that's what helped me make it. 397 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: And it's like, and I just said, I'm gonna be 398 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: like this to this guy, and either he's gonna, like 399 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: to your point. He's either gonna make it or he's not. 400 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: But back then, it wasn't like, hey, come here, let 401 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: me take you under my way and show you the ropes. 402 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm going to like make it as hard 403 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: as possible on you. Yes, And then well, but gosh, 404 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: those were I'm glad. I'm glad we can sit back 405 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: and laugh about it now because back then I used 406 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: to cry myself exactly. And you can't just walk up 407 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: to somebody, you know, you're out at a bar and 408 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: be like, you know, let me tell you a story. Yeah, 409 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: they don't get it. No one gets it. I want 410 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: to ask you about offensive line play. And you know, 411 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: the group that the Vikings have now, like with Dari 412 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Saw and Reisner and the running game here in Minnesota 413 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: is kind of they're they're kind of finding its way, yeah, 414 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And just your thoughts on 415 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: O line play, whether it's in the league these days, 416 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: because it just seems different and what is different, And 417 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: tell me what you think about. You know, back back 418 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: when we play, it was it was about movement, get 419 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: guys off the ball. You know, you had full backs 420 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: you bring in, you know, DeLong and Hunter Goodwin and 421 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy kleinsas we try to try to now nowadays, it's 422 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: more just kind of cover guys up, you know, run 423 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: cover them up, you know, kind of get get in 424 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: the getting the framework of their bodies and hold them 425 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: and let the backs do what they do. It's different. 426 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's better. Word well, they're 427 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: bigger and they're faster, and there I will say with 428 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: this current group what I've seen recently, which I like, 429 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: I think this Riiser guy, Riisner brings an attitude. You 430 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: got to have that one guy in your line that's 431 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, he doesn't look good in 432 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: the uniform, looks horrible with his shirt off, but he's 433 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be tough. He's gonna hit guys a little 434 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: bit after the whistle, and and I think he's kind 435 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: of brought this attitude to the group that's sort of like, hey, 436 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: we're coming after you. You know, this is gonna be 437 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: an all day thing. He might beat me a couple 438 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: of times, who cares. I'm putting my hand in the 439 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: dirt and I'm coming off the ball every time. And 440 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I think from what I see, it seems like that 441 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: sort of u has taken over the entire line and 442 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: now they're I mean, they're ran the ball great last 443 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: week and obviously hopefully that can continue. We were pulling guys, 444 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: kicking guys out. Ryan Grigson, I don't know if you 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: met Ryan or no. Ryan, so he was. He would 446 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: always say, you got to have blue feet. And I'm like, 447 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: blue feet, what you mean by blue feet? And he's like, well, 448 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: that's the that's the ranking, right easy, elite feet. You 449 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: gotta have blue feet as an alignment. You gotta have 450 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: good feet, and you had great feet. I'm sure I 451 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: was not fast, but I was quick, and I had 452 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: good feeing, good balance, and I think that's what that's 453 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: what helped, And that was that was your bit though. 454 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean Christy kind of because he was undersize and 455 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: he was a practice squad guy. That we brought in. 456 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: But the movement, the ability to say, all right, that 457 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: linebackers is plussed over a little too much. We won't 458 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: combo to him. I'm just gonna pull pole. Yeah. That 459 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: nobody was doing that back then. And it was kind 460 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: of out of necessity for Jeff from what I understand, 461 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: because he was just a smaller guy. And so, yeah, 462 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: bring Dave Dixon down, let him cocoa bank the nose 463 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: tackle and then pulled Jeff around two hundred and eighty 464 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: five pounds going through the hole on a two undred 465 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: forty pound linebacker. And that was just how we played 466 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: center here. Ty said, you're gonna learn how to play center. 467 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I got to learn how to pull. 468 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: And uh, it's a great scheme. I don't you know. 469 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: You don't see a lot of people doing it even now, 470 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: which I don't know why, because man, if you can 471 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: get if you are on the edge too, Jimmy Kleinsasser 472 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: would come down and smoke that smoke that d n 473 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: and Stuice or Stringer would pull around. Yeah, you get 474 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: a three on. And now that the little guys, the dbs, 475 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: they can't cut the big guys out in space. There 476 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: you go. So now you're at a total advantage. I 477 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: don't know why more teams don't do it, but we 478 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: did it. We did it pretty well for a while. 479 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Could we get you out there today maybe or tomorrow? Practice? 480 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: And I mean I could talk about it. I could certainly, 481 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: I could certainly do a walk through this body. Don't run. 482 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, what do you do for working on in 483 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: my bad? Do everything except running? I do not run? Man, 484 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. And yeah, it's a conversation 485 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: that I guess only a few people can have, you 486 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I love being able to share it, 487 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: and uh god, I feel better. I just feel after 488 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: I was like the old guys like Alerts and those 489 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: guys would come in and Billy Brown and they talk 490 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: about remember that game at the old men, I'd be like, 491 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: these guys are losers and they're talking about the old days. 492 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: That's all we got left? All right, Well it's better 493 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: than nothing, that's right. At least there's something, all right, Matt, 494 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: good luck to you and thanks for coming out. Appreciate it. Pete, 495 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: thanks again to Matt for joining tonight's show. It's always 496 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: great catching up with him. Whenever we get a chance. 497 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: The Vikings are in a prime time matchup after the 498 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: big loss out there in Denver on Sunday night, playing 499 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. It's going to be seven to 500 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: twenty catching on ESPN or on your local ABC affiliate. 501 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Thanks again, Matt for your help tonight, and thank you 502 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: fans for tuning into another addition of Skull Stories presented 503 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: by three M, the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. 504 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: We will see you all again next week.