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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy. You

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Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And now Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, welcome back week eight officially in the books.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, gonna talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: week eight, Gonna talk a little bit about Week nine.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a ton of fun in between. It

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Speaker 1: is a pleasure as always to be with you. Good sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm great. I think I'm especially good knowing that I

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Speaker 2: get to wake up this coming Sunday morning and listen

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Speaker 2: to a solo Ty hilden Brand episode, maybe with surprise guests.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where you're gonna head with this, but

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Speaker 2: I have a fall wedding this coming weekend that I'm very,

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Speaker 2: very excited about on the West Coast. It's a different

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Speaker 2: kind of show. I'm very excited for the recap show

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Speaker 2: for this week because it's unfiltered. It's pure Tie, and

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Speaker 2: whatever I was doing to hold you back is no longer,

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Speaker 2: so you get to fully explore the audio space for

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Speaker 2: the week nine recap. But here we are on the

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Speaker 2: week nine look ahead. I'm looking ahead to that, but

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot to I guess, think about and

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Speaker 2: with you work through and do an exercise about what

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Speaker 2: happened in week eight that we couldn't quite get to.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go through the polling. You have an apology

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Speaker 2: written into our rundown. I don't know if you're apologizing

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Speaker 2: to me, if you're apologizing to a fan base, if

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Speaker 2: you're apologizing to a coach.

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Speaker 1: A lot to get through fledged apology. But okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: this is a show about honesty, is it not? It

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Speaker 1: is Sometimes a key component of that is being honest

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Speaker 1: with yourself also true. And I had a moment of clarity,

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Speaker 1: an epiphany of sorts on Sunday morning when I woke

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Speaker 2: You're drinking coffee at midnight? Yeah I did, Oh, ty,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not a coffee guy. Anyway, when I

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Speaker 1: As you said, you got your poll, we got a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. Yeah, we're going to discuss here

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Speaker 3: Dan uh. Let's get to the news the coaching bringing

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Speaker 3: the sound out of retirement.

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Speaker 1: Dan. If ever there were a year to do it,

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Speaker 1: this would be the year to bring that ridiculous sound

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Speaker 1: up with that back in the day, but Billy Napier

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Speaker 2: I get it. And Florida's got high hopes. You know,

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Speaker 1: I know, surprising as it may sound, but this move

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Speaker 2: No, I know. But now, what's going to happen with

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Speaker 1: This is one of those things. This is one of

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Speaker 1: Penn State made it. Penn State's recruiting class seemingly evaporated

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Speaker 2: Look, if a guy's not the guy, you can't think

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Speaker 1: In this world of roster, it is a short term hit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Of course there are others. It's a very talented team.

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Speaker 2: DJ or excuse me, Dallas Wilson from the state of Florida,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well back to the Florida state thing. I do

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Speaker 1: I like to say, just.

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Speaker 2: Be prepared, get affairs an order, Get the go bag

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Speaker 1: We're going to be playing a lot of that dinosaur sound.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to be playing a lot of like, wait,

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Speaker 1: You know it, brother, all right? Write in salverbot gmail

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Speaker 1: are ever so inclined. We'd love to hear from you

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Speaker 1: on these firings and much much more. We do have

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Speaker 1: new polls to discuss, Dan, please new AP Top twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Crack in the top ten BYU, Slow and Steady wins

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just looking at the A people right now.

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Speaker 1: Vandy's got a game at home this week against Miszoo.

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Speaker 1: out on the road, That'll be a tough spot, for sure, tough,

432
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Speaker 1: But right now Vandy sitting with one loss, Dan, I

433
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know if a ten and two Vandy gets in,

434
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: especially if they lose their last game of the year.

435
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at teams that I want to sell,

436
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: Vandy's probably not the answer.

437
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: Man. If you go ten and two in the SEC

438
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: this season, if you're able to navigate the SEC at

439
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: ten and two with I guess a couple signature wins,

440
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: you're in a real nice spot. You really are.

441
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Speaker 1: I think the team that I am settling on for

442
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: now is george Tech. Wow, Okay, and I like George Tech.

443
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech has yet to take a loss this year.

444
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: They have been in a handful of close games and

445
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: thinking of the Clemson game, think of the wake Forest game,

446
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: even the Duke game to an extent was close. Sure,

447
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: but I harken back to something that you and I

448
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: have talked about a couple times over now, tho, this

449
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: is a good team, tough team. We like Haynes King.

450
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: Hanes King thankfully has stayed pretty healthy so far. Yeah,

451
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: definitely feels like there's a loss in there.

452
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Speaker 2: Are I agree, and it's amazing for Georgia Technical eleven

453
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: and one against you know, a reasonably tough schedule that

454
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Speaker 2: certainly finishes with Georgia. The game is what it's in Atlanta,

455
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Speaker 2: but not at Bobby Dodd. I had circle those wake

456
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Speaker 2: Forest and Duke games as those spots for an imperfect

457
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: team to go down on the road, and they found

458
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 2: a way. So I'm believing a lot more than I

459
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: was before in terms of Georgia Tech continuing to find

460
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Speaker 2: a way because the defense has improved very clearly, and

461
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: it is as long as Haines King is upright, he

462
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: finds ways to move the ball forward and move the chain.

463
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: So Georgia Tech is in a great spot, and so

464
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: I'm not done doubting the super high end of their ceiling.

465
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Speaker 2: They look really, really good.

466
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Speaker 1: The other answer I have here, and this probably will

467
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Speaker 1: leak out into our conversation about the Old Miss game

468
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: Ole Miss against Oklahoma this week, but you can make

469
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Speaker 1: a pretty strong case that Old Miss won't be in

470
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Speaker 1: the top twelve at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I also consider that in my answer, it's a tough.

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Speaker 1: Spot this week on the road at Oklahoma, we will

473
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Speaker 1: get into that. They've got game's at home against South Carolina,

474
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Speaker 1: at home against Florida, on the road at Mississippi State

475
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: to close things out. Mississippi State is not a bad team,

476
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Speaker 1: that's a rivalry spot. Who knows what state Florida is

477
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Speaker 1: going to be, and even South Carolina can be a

478
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: pain in the ass sometimes I could definitely see them

479
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Speaker 1: take in another loss along the way.

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Speaker 2: But even then, if you're saying another loss along the way,

481
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Speaker 2: a ten and two SEC team with wins against LSU

482
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Speaker 2: and I guess, take your pick, I guess at that

483
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: point it would be the likeliest loss is Oklahoma moving

484
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Speaker 2: forward because it's on the road two consecutive road games,

485
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Speaker 2: but it's ten and two, I guess with wins against

486
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Speaker 2: South Carolina, Florida, LSU, and let's not forget that big

487
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 2: comeback win against Wazoo. Yep, I don't know. To get

488
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Speaker 2: in at ten and two in the SEC are big ten,

489
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Speaker 2: it seems. Let us know, again, soliverablelgema dot com. Let

490
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Speaker 2: us know in the comments wherever you can, who are

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Speaker 2: you selling in this top twelve. I think it's an

492
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Speaker 2: interesting debate, to say the least, there are certainly some

493
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Speaker 2: teams that I would buy to maybe work their way

494
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Speaker 2: up into the top twelve, to maybe get themselves on

495
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Speaker 2: more secure footing within the big top twelve Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: But who are you selling? Let us know.

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Speaker 2: Who is that answer in you know, the teens area

498
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Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty that you're buying or beyond to make

499
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: a sizeable leap up, I would.

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Speaker 1: Buy Texas Tech. I still think Texas Tech is pretty good.

501
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: We'll see on quarterback health though, We'll see on quarterback health.

502
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: I would be inclined to buy Virginia, not because I'm

503
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: the hugest Virginia believer, but because they've got a very

504
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: favorable schedule, and based on what we've seen so far,

505
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of reason be optimistic.

506
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: About you that wake Duke one two and they go

507
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: to the hinterlands.

508
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: They do go to the hinterlands. And another one kind

509
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: of staying in the act would be Louisville. Louisville showed

510
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: me something on Friday night beating Miami.

511
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: That's true, but that's sort of their mom under Jeff Brohm.

512
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: So they have a pretty good schedule left though, getting

513
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: Clemson whatever Clemson is, and what their health is at

514
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: that point, and SMU and that's on the road. That's

515
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: a tough one too, But I think they're in a

516
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: good spot. I might circle miszoo here.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm not buying Missoo. I'm not buying buy Aoo. I'm

518
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: not buying Tennessee. I'm certainly not buying LSU.

519
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm out on most of those SEC teams.

521
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: That are outside top twelve at this point, they're just

522
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: gonna fall once or twice and take themselves out. Okay,

523
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: let us do.

524
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: Dan, ruis seen? Do you have a sound first?

525
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 2: At this point, I think I do? Is it this?

526
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I want to dance with? Oh?

527
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: Want to dance time?

528
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I want to dance on this part of the episode.

529
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Now we are talking soft launches and hard launches, Dan, I.

530
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Had to look up what it meant. I think I

531
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: did so did I we we use some sort of

532
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: youth website to indicate that a soft launch on Instagram

533
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: or Facebook or some social media platform TikTok about a

534
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: relationship means that you're hinting at the formation of a

535
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: new relationship, whereas a hard launch is like, hey, everybody,

536
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: this is my new person, right, And that's a picture

537
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: and it's your showing happiness. Maybe you're on some sort

538
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: of European island together. That's what a hard launch is.

539
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: So we're doing soft launch hard launch today.

540
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Dan. You're gonna give me some of your college football takes, Yes,

541
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: some things that you have been steing over. We're going

542
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: to have a conversation as we always do here, but

543
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: I am going to make the determination whether that's a

544
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: soft launch situation or sure if maybe you should just

545
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: go for and go hard launch. Right, what do you

546
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: got first?

547
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to make this about teams

548
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: or I guess quarterbacks. Are situations like you seem like

549
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: you're ready to hard launch Virginia as a playoff contender. Yes, no,

550
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: you're not ready. No, this is a soft launch for you.

551
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: It's very much a soft launch for me.

552
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

553
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I like you, Yeah, I do. I like their schedule,

554
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I like what we have seen so far. There is

555
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: definitely still a mental block when it comes to UVA. Okay,

556
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we got here so quick, and

557
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: that is not got anything to do with Tony Elliott,

558
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Chandler Morris and what they have done in Charlottesville. That

559
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: is completely separated this is a me thing that I'm

560
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: talking about here, and so no, I'm just not I'm

561
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: not ready to con to that bit yet. But I'll

562
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: sft launch.

563
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: It, Okay, are you ready to? And I'm gonna I'm

564
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: gonna hard launch it here. Uh, the Pit Panthers, you

565
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: never should have abandoned them after losing to West Virginia, right,

566
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: just there's weird rivalry moments.

567
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Ye.

568
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: My take on PIT is it's time to hard launch Ty,

569
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: It's time.

570
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: Man. I've struggled with this, Okay, I've struggled with this

571
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: because I was all in on PIT at the start

572
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: of the year, and the entire basis for the argument

573
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: was Eli Holstein and des reed and Eli Holstein really

574
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: wasn't that good. It really wasn't to start the year.

575
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Okay. But here's here's the hard launch with PIT.

576
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: Right.

577
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: It's not that Pitt's going to make the playoff or

578
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: anything like that. Are you ready to hard launch PIT

579
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: as a competitive, competent team that is going to show

580
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: out well against those final three?

581
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Oh yeah?

582
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: So Notre Dame will not embarrass Pitt. I think that

583
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: game is at PIT right, a pit right, Georgia Tech,

584
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: and that it's a look ahead spot for Georgia Tech

585
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: I believe, right the second to last game of the

586
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: season before the Georgia matchup, and it's Miami's final game.

587
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: So Pitt in terms of like where they could be

588
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: and getting those teams at the end of the year,

589
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: maybe they're a little bit beat up. Obviously, Pitt could

590
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: be a little bit beat up. They've got a green

591
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: quarterback and Mason Heinschel. You're saying Pitt will be a

592
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: fully formed, competitive, dangerous team throughout the back half of

593
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: the season.

594
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Look, there's a gumpy quality to that schedule, sure, where

595
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: they're going to be adjacent to other teams that have

596
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: a lot to play for, and who knows where the

597
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: ACC is going to go, right, Pitt could find itself

598
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: having a lot to play for in terms of the conference.

599
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, But all that being said, yeah, I

600
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: think what we have seen recently, the switchcheck quarterback has

601
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: definitely given them a spark. They have looked better and

602
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: they will have plenty of opportunities to be more of

603
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: a factor in this thing the final month and a

604
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: half of the season. So yeah, le's hard launch it.

605
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm in. Let's go I hard launched it at the

606
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: start of the year. What the hell, let's do it again.

607
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Let's do it again. I'm ready to be hurt.

608
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: I am okay, I'm gonna be very specific about this.

609
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: My most entertaining co star these next five to six

610
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: games of the season is going to be the Cincinnati Bearcats.

611
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Look at the remainder of Cincinnati skete.

612
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I looked at it earlier.

613
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has Baylor at Utah, Arizona byu TCU. What do

614
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: all those teams have in common? The potential for superan

615
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: entertaining quarterbacks going against a Cincinnati pass defense that's not

616
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: all that good. Cincinnati's own passing game has been terrific.

617
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: Their own offense have been terrific. Cincinnati is due to

618
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: play a bunch of thirty eight thirty fives, and you

619
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: should circle the calendar. Put Cincinnati on your every week

620
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: YouTube TVDVR. Not a sponsor could be I'm hard launching

621
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Cincinnati as electricity in November.

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Speaker 1: Okay, with that, I I will hard launch the idea

623
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Speaker 1: of them being super entertaining in November.

624
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's gonna be great. I will hard

625
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: to launch that.

626
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I was looking at some tiebreaker scenarios in the Big

627
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: Twelve earlier today, and as you might expect, I mean,

628
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: there's still a whole range of possibilities. It's still relatively early.

629
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: It's probably too early to be looking at stuff like this,

630
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: but there are just some interesting teams that I think

631
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: have a role to play. Cincinnati, for sure, Iowa State

632
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: still has a role to play. I don't think they're

633
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: going to get into the top two of the conference,

634
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: but Iowa State is there, by you who were going

635
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit later when we preview games,

636
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: They're certainly there. Even a team like a Houston who

637
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: will not be at the top of the conversation. So

638
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: this is all to say the Big Twelve is going

639
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: to be crazy fascinating. I think Cincinnati is certainly leading

640
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: part of that charge.

641
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: I know, but there is something fun about this, an

642
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: old school Big Twelve mentality with Cincinnati, right, the struggles

643
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: on defense somewhat and then just incredible effervescent potential on offense.

644
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: And so I'm hard launching this relationship in a way

645
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: that somebody would hard launch a relationship with. Like I

646
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: met Trevor at a rave. We've decided to move in

647
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: into a van we're gonna live that van life. And

648
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: you see that post and you're like, this is gonna

649
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: end terribly, but subscribe. Yeah, I'm in.

650
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm in. I'm in. What else you got?

651
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm hard launching a relationship right now? With Indiana winning

652
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: the conference? Are you ready? Will you come on this

653
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: journey with me? They're gonna end up in the game.

654
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna end up in the game.

655
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: They're gonna end up in the Big Ten title game.

656
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight, okay, And

657
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't want this to sound like I am favoring. Sure,

658
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: it would be a pretty crazy storyline if Indiana ended

659
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: up beating Ohio State to win the Big Ten. I

660
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: mean it would have been crazy last year. It's equally

661
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: as crazy this year. I still remember doing the previews

662
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: where we argued over whether Indiana or Illinois should be

663
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth. All that stuff's going out the window now.

664
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Indiana's are really good. They beat Oregon on the road.

665
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: They're killing teams, maybe not Iowa, but they're killing everybody else.

666
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go on the journey with you. I

667
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: am soft launching the idea, though, because Ohio State has

668
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: looked unstoppable on defense. I hear you, they totally unstoppable

669
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: on defense. I'm curious to see what Indiana looks like

670
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I mean, they had their

671
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: way with Oregon Penn State that game. Penn State's in disarray,

672
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: the game is in State College. It is still a

673
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: decent enough Penn State defense. I'm curious to see if

674
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: they can provide some resistance even if they're not able

675
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: to get anything going on offense.

676
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: Right Ah, I'm only going to soft launch it, Dan,

677
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: You're gonna soft lunch. Okay, this is why I'm hard launching.

678
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State plays nobody all season long. I know, I

679
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: know I was looking at that, so so I'm just

680
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: saying the ability to self scout and respond to adversity

681
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: and figure out. Okay, this team is doing this interesting thing.

682
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: Penn State with Ethan Grunkemeyer, Purdue on the road, Ucla, Rutgers,

683
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: and then of course the Michigan game. I don't believe

684
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 2: they're going to struggle with Michigan this season. I don't.

685
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Look it's different. Weird things keep happening with this game.

686
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we keep saying that about Ohio. See I understand.

687
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: I think it's it's gonna be okay for Ohio State

688
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: this season, that's my prediction. But I don't think they're

689
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: going to be They're going to have that specific experience

690
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: that will help them in this spot. Like they the

691
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: big reason they had their wake up calls last season.

692
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: They had a wake up call on defense after that

693
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: Oregon game in Eugene and a wake up call after

694
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: the Michigan game and didn't end up playing in the

695
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game. I think there's some that's going

696
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: to be more tested about Indiana by the time they

697
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: reach that point that is going to give them an advantage.

698
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: Man, if they play that game in Indianapolis too, that's

699
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: basically a home.

700
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: A game in Indiania. Well, every game is kind of

701
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: a home game. If it's a big game involving Ohio State.

702
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: They travel, But Bloomington's only like what an hour away?

703
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: If that from Indianapolis, I could only soft launch. It

704
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I won't root for the storyline because I

705
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: think it would be a very cool zag as opposed

706
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: to what we're used to. Yeah, I'm not fully there yet.

707
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: We just we don't know exactly how good Ohio State.

708
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Is we think we are nearly positive. They are undoubtedly excellent,

709
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: but you'd like measuring sticks here.

710
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I watched some of their defense

711
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: this weekend.

712
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

713
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: They're ridiculous. They're solidly front. They're so good up front.

714
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: What else you got?

715
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going sec I'll go Mountain West. I'm kind

716
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 2: of getting to a really serious place with San Diego State,

717
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: San Diego State, san Diego State.

718
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, so talk me through the Dan Rubinstein evolution from

719
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: San Jose State to San Diego State. Why are you here?

720
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: Are we hard launching? Are we soft launching? What? How

721
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: serious is this relationship?

722
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: This is how serious it is. Okay. San Diego State's

723
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: offense is average, their defense is very good. They have

724
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 2: basically one good offense left in Boise State, and the

725
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: game is at home. San Diego State plays the following

726
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: defenses in terms of defensive sp plus ranks to finish

727
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: out the season. Number seventy seven coming off of a

728
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: bye this past week in Fresno State, Wyoming eighty, Hawaii

729
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: seventy three, and that's on the road. That'll be difficult.

730
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Boise at home seventy one San Jose State one to

731
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: seventeen New Mexico on the road one twelve. That would

732
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: put them at eleven and one, with a comfortable loss

733
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: to Washington State and a thirty four to zering win

734
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: against Cal.

735
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Also a six to three win over Northern NOI back

736
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: in Week four.

737
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: Win your clunkers, Tyler, win your clunkers. I'm just saying

738
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: San Diego State right now, has I mean their offense

739
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: is that they're going to face one ten ninety four,

740
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: eighty six eighty one. They it's basically a one game

741
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: season to me, if you're going to oversimplify the rest

742
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: of the Aztecs here, they're in a really nice place

743
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: and they were bad a year ago.

744
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: So Seann Louis is doing a good job.

745
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: Sewn Louis is doing a very good job there. I

746
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: mean again, it's it's led by their defense, and you

747
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: look at the offenses that they faced. Obviously this is

748
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: not a roster of incredible quarterbacks faced. But I think

749
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: they could be one of those teams where you look

750
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: up around, Thanksgav and you're like, oh, San Diego State's

751
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: in the driver's seat for the playoff. Okay, sure, great.

752
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: I just think they're in a good place.

753
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: I'll saw to launch that one. You're gonna soft on sang,

754
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: I just a mountain less is weird, dude, It is weird.

755
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: It's weird. And when you've got a six to three

756
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: win over Northern Illinois.

757
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, they don't make sense.

758
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: They really don't like this is This to me is

759
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: kind of like one of those magic guys where you

760
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: got to cross your eyes and like move the page

761
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: back and forth until you see the sailboat. I kind

762
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: of feel that way with San Diego State right now.

763
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they are. I'm not sure I

764
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: fully see it at this point. I'm glad that you do,

765
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're into it, but uh, I don't know.

766
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: My eyes are still cross right now looking at the Aztecs,

767
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out

768
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: of it.

769
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, and Boise has a buye before that game against

770
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: San Diego State, but it is after Fresno. I don't

771
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: think anybody is finishing the SEC season with one conference loss.

772
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: Hard launch I'm in yeah, I mean, I.

773
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Don't think anybody's going whatever it is now seven and one.

774
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: No I don't think so either. See, I think the

775
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: SEC has borrowed a page out of the Big Twelve,

776
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: where different teams, different play styles, obviously a different conference

777
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: makeup altogether, right, But the thing they have in common

778
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: is that it's going to be a demolition derby the

779
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: rest of the way. And so if you are a

780
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: college football fan and maybe does not have any dog

781
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: in the SEC fight, we have a lot of people

782
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: who listen. They just like college football. They don't even

783
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: necessarily have a team. They pick a different team year

784
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: in and year out. Whatever you're into, we don't care.

785
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: But this is part of what makes college football great.

786
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: It is I think what we see unfolding in this conference,

787
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: which is a lot of really good teams. It is

788
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: very deep. We looked at the top twenty five. They're

789
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of ranked SEC teams and it's a good conference. Yes,

790
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: they're all going to beat each other. They're all going

791
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: to beat each other. There's going to be some cannibalisation

792
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: that goes on. There's going to be some team that

793
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: gets left out of the playoff that feels that they

794
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: are slighted.

795
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: Yep, it is.

796
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: Going to because they all end up beating each other,

797
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: and that makes for a very interesting November.

798
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: So A and M has at LSU, at Miszoo, at Texas. Yeah,

799
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: and they've currently not lost a game BAMA has. They're

800
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: playing Auburn. Where's that game? That game is at Auburn.

801
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: They have Oklahoma and LSU, and they're at South Carolina.

802
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: I think BAMA has the best shot to lose once

803
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: and once only and maybe all undefeated. It's more of

804
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: a medium launch from me, just because I think Bama

805
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: has a pretty good shot. I'm worried about the A

806
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: and M defense in this moment, though they did improve

807
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: as they generally do in the second half against Arkansas.

808
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: I think they allowed forty or fifty yards on the

809
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: ground only after just allowing everything in the first half

810
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: to Arkansas on the ground. But yeah, I think November

811
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: October bloodbath.

812
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: I've got one for you.

813
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Please.

814
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: I am hard launching that I said something stupid on

815
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: the Saturday night reaction stream. Yeah, I am an idiot

816
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: for the way I talked about Notre Dames when over USC.

817
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: So I am hard launching my relationship with Notre Dames

818
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: defense once more.

819
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you just kept calling it a clunker performance.

820
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't need to make this a long diatribe. I

821
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: said what I said, Yeah, but I went to bed

822
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: thinking about it. After the coffee wore off. I mentioned it.

823
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: I think again to you yesterday morning. I expected that

824
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: I would get roasted a lot more than I ended

825
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: up getting roasted. I appreciate that. Thank you for baller hood.

826
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Something happens to us as fans where we like protect

827
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: our heart by tempering every bit of excitement with a

828
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: little bit of negativity. Right. That is just the fan experience,

829
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: especially in college football, because this thing is always on

830
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the verge of and off the swivel. I don't care

831
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: who you're root for, Yeah, And I think that is

832
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: especially true for you and I, Dan, because we have

833
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: never made any secret of the fact Oregon fan, Notre

834
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Dame fan, penn s data alum. We've never tried to

835
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: conceal the fact that we have rooting interests here. It's

836
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: part of the show, it's part of who we are.

837
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: People tune in for that. But at least speaking for myself,

838
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: sometimes ago a little too far in the opposite direction

839
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: to present as unbiased and fair, right, and I went

840
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: so far that I pretty much wrote off what was

841
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: a really good defensive showing by Notre Dame, a really

842
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: good showing in general in the Yeah, right, the Notre

843
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: Dame defense. Despite the fact that I still have some

844
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: trust issues based on what we saw in the early

845
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: part of the year, USC was the number one sp

846
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: plus defense offense offense definitely not defense, but offense. Yeah,

847
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame held them to twenty four points. They created turnovers.

848
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: If you look at the drive chart, I mean, they

849
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: pretty much held USC at bay for the majority of

850
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: the second half. What more could I want? If you're

851
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: holding it offense that good to only twenty four points,

852
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: there aren't a whole lot of negative things that you

853
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: should be talking about. That was very good showing by

854
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame defense.

855
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Made plays, took advantage of turnovers, force turnovers. Yeah, in

856
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: a big spot national TV.

857
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: So I went back and I listened to myself and

858
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, what are you talking about? Hm,

859
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: you're making an ass to yourself right now.

860
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

861
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to apologize for anything I said.

862
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: What I said, that was what I felt in the moment.

863
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: Maybe hopped up on mushroom coffee. It's becoming a theme here,

864
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: not a sponsor absolutely could be at this point, but

865
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: I am. I am sending some sweet nothings back to

866
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Defense. I'm ready to hard launch a

867
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: new chapter of my relationship with that Notre Dame Defense

868
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: because it seems like they're getting better and it's nothing

869
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: more of the game that we saw against USC. I

870
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: think was proof positive of that. So look, hand up.

871
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't think I did a good job explaining where

872
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: I was coming from. I think maybe I went a

873
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: little bit too far in the other direction to appear

874
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: fair and bounced. But alas uh, it was a good

875
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: showing and I probably should have given a little bit

876
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: more credit.

877
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: So I'm back in. I'm back in, Okay. And it

878
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: wasn't a great game for CJ. Carr No, And yet

879
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: Jendarium Price and Jeremiah Love both went over like two

880
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: hundred dollar purpose yards, right.

881
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jadarian Price ran a kick back, had

882
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: like eighty some odd yards on the ground. Jeremiah Love

883
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: two twenty eight on the ground. It was his career high.

884
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: They ran all over USC, like what more do you want?

885
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: You don't always need to be firing on all cylinders

886
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: in order to put in a good game and have

887
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: a workman like effort and have an impressive win. And

888
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: so while I stand by the fact that I think

889
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: USC on offense is damn impressive, there's going to beat

890
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of teams and it is going to be

891
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with the rest of the way.

892
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: Not not even won the game. They won the game by ten.

893
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: They look good on defense. They did what they had

894
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: to do on offense. I think they very much played

895
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: the style that they want to play under Marcus Freeman,

896
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: which is bullyball, run it down your throats, control the

897
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They did all of those things. For

898
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: me to be too negative, I don't know that's that's

899
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: an accomplishment that I need to deal with on my

900
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: own personal time. But in the meantime, yeah, Hard launching

901
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: new relationship with Notre Dame defense.

902
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 2: So they're going to be in the playoff, I think

903
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: so at this point, right, gotta beat pat a week

904
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: after Navy, I think so.

905
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: I think what we're going to see from this point forward,

906
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: because it really was kind of like a one game

907
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: season for Notre Dame. They need to beat USC. Right,

908
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: you beat USC, They're going to be a clear favorite.

909
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: Over pretty much everybody else in the schedule. If you

910
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: can run like that against the teams that they've got

911
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: coming up, they're not going to lose.

912
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: I agree.

913
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens when they get to the playoff.

914
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a separate conversation. But yeah, right now,

915
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the Irish, there's a pretty good

916
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: chance they're gonna be inside the top ten on stable

917
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: ground going to that final round of rankings first week

918
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: of December. So I feel pretty good about their chances

919
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: to get back in.

920
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: I think that's probably right, just because there's so many

921
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: teams that are gonna be moving around so much that

922
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: they're just gonna steadily move up one win nine, seven, six,

923
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: They're just I don't know. I think there's gonna be

924
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: so much action around them. They could be jumped a

925
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: bunch as well, because they're not playing any huge resume

926
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: games these final five weeks, and we'll see where USC is.

927
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: USC still has Oregon on the road, and I believe

928
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: they have the juggernaut that is UCLA to finish out

929
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: the season. So you know, you got a root for

930
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: USC on a certain level. You gotta have a signature win.

931
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that you can be held against

932
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame if you're gonna project this forward is who

933
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: is that big deal win you'd like to see? I

934
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: guess if you're a Notre Dame fan, Boise State keep winning.

935
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: They have State, I mean all the teams right you

936
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: want to see and keep winning. You can make the

937
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: case that right now their best win is a close

938
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: loss to Texas A and M right at home. But

939
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know right now it's set up

940
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: for them. This is a really good showing. The lesson,

941
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: as always is that I'm an idiot.

942
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: So also, look, if the committee wants to put a

943
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, they will. They'll use the justification of Look,

944
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: it was the first two weeks of the season, new quarterback,

945
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: and they're a different team now than they were back then,

946
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: and it's not a difficult case to make, but that'll

947
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: be the justification.

948
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Right in solid Vermont gmail dot com, let us know

949
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: what you are hard launching, what you're soft launching here

950
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season. It's previous some games Dan

951
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: early Bird special, as we've been doing here on Tuesdays,

952
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: Let's give you an advanced look at a couple of

953
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the big ones. This week. We've got three of them,

954
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: the first of which is at high noon on ABC.

955
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: It is number eight, Ole Miss It is number thirteen Oklahoma.

956
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is a four and one half point favorite. Dan,

957
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: I have an honest question for you about Oklahoma. Okay,

958
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you did not bring Oklahoma up when

959
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: you did your hard launch soft launch thing. Okay, Well,

960
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: it's not meant as a troll. This is an honest question.

961
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: All right. The Oklahoma people listening, don't at me. Is

962
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: an honest question.

963
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm listening.

964
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that Oklahoma is overrated.

965
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: At their actual ranking of thirteen or just in terms

966
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: of their place in the sport.

967
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: They're ranking at thirteen right now, But I would say

968
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: the assumption that Oklahoma is one of the teams to

969
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: beat in the SEC and the sport at large.

970
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 2: I think they're properly rated. I think they're looked at

971
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: as likely flawed in certain aspects. Offensively, though, what they

972
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: did against South Carolina, a South Carolina defense that's okay,

973
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: a South Carolina offense that's been terrible this year, that

974
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: was a losable spot. Considering their lack of performance against

975
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: Texas to let that rivalry loss beat them twice.

976
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Here's why I asked this. Okay, for all the talk

977
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma's defense, have we seen them against a high

978
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: powered offense? We saw them against Michigan in week two,

979
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Auburn in week four.

980
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 2: That was a very early Bryce Underwood start in. Michigan's

981
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: offense is fine but not incredible.

982
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Sure, but case in point, moment in time was definitely

983
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: not a high powered offense. Texas two weeks ago was

984
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: not knocking anybody over with their offense, even though they

985
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: won right South Carolina last week. Now this week, I

986
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: think Old Miss is a completely different conversation. We'll get

987
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: to that. You consider the other side of it too,

988
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: with their offense and a lot of talk about John Mattier,

989
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: how he's come in, he's revitalized the offense. That is

990
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: not untrue. But they're twenty six points last week against

991
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: South Carolina. That was the most they've scored against the

992
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: power conference opponent.

993
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Right.

994
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: So the reason that I asked this, we have and

995
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: really seen the defense go up against a great offense,

996
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen the offense, albeit better, put in

997
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: an incredible showing against a power conference opponent. So I look,

998
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I say, thirteenth, I look at the teams that are

999
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: left on this schedule, Tennessee, Alabama, Miszoo all still on

1000
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: this thing. These are good offenses. I think it's a

1001
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: fair question.

1002
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're due for a dip, but in

1003
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 2: terms of what they've accomplished thus far, I think their

1004
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: starting point of what their defense can be and has

1005
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: shown itself to be against lesser offenses. I think there

1006
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: is less to worry about this Oklahoma defense than there

1007
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: is defenses across this conference. So it's not perfect, it's

1008
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: not incredible, but I think it's gonna do them a

1009
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: ton of favors. I think the fact that they can

1010
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: run the ball more is gonna help their defense. It's

1011
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: gonna give their defense a little bit more rest. They're

1012
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: gonna be able to control more games hypothetically if this continues.

1013
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they're overrated. I just don't think they're

1014
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: built to win in a number of ways like i'd

1015
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 2: like to see a team built like Against the rest

1016
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: of this schedule, I think they are at the moment

1017
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: properly rated. And look, if they win four or five

1018
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, they're going to be the top eight.

1019
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna be the top six if.

1020
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: They show out against their remaining schedule. Yeah, they should be.

1021
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a believer in Oklahoma as a good team.

1022
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: With questions about the lack of winter wonders out wide,

1023
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 2: we you know, different ways to win. You're still dealing

1024
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: with John Matier coming off of a pretty significant injury,

1025
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: and he's not one hundred percent though encouraged by recent results. Sure,

1026
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: we'll see, but I think they have that kind of

1027
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Texas game in them as well, even if John Matier

1028
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: were healthy.

1029
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: I also think there's a strong possibility with respect to

1030
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: this game that we see a little bit of a

1031
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: hangover effect for Old Miss.

1032
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: I do too. Second straight road game, yeah.

1033
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: Second straight road game. They could have won that game

1034
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: last week against Georgia. So now to turn around and

1035
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: play and nooner in Norman, Oklahoma. That's a really tough

1036
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: one too.

1037
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 2: What's the number? What's the line?

1038
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Four and a half?

1039
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma here. I like Oklahoma because if what

1040
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: they're able to do on the ground is for real,

1041
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: that's the very specific weakness that ole Miss has had,

1042
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 2: and so to ask ole Miss to get a lot

1043
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: better against the run, on the road in a difficult

1044
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: place to play. I like ole Miss, but I think

1045
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: the more teams get a look at Trinidad Chambliss, the

1046
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: more they have a concept of how to play him.

1047
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: And I think there's enough speed on this defense to

1048
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 2: keep him honest. So I like Oklahoma here. I'm gonna

1049
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: take the points. Okay.

1050
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Part of why I'm taking the points is because I

1051
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: initially liked Oklahoma too. Yeah, betting against myself has actually

1052
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: worked out quite well, but.

1053
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: But that's your end. But the tie instinct is to

1054
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: bet against tie. So that's what's wrong with the tie instinct.

1055
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Now. I don't trust the Oklahoma offense right now, okay,

1056
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of faith that ole Miss

1057
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: can score at least twenty four points. Okay, it's his defense.

1058
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma wins. I think Oklahoma's going to be

1059
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: the better team. But I've got it a close twenty

1060
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: seven to twenty four somewhere in that neighborhood. The reason

1061
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: I say don't fully trust the offense is I hear

1062
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying about the Oklahoma ground game. I'm not

1063
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: sure I'm fully buying it yet.

1064
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, I have this at twenty four to eighteen.

1065
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get there twenty.

1066
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: So both lower scoring though right we're lower scoring, more

1067
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: of a lower scoring defenses struggle.

1068
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: It's also a nooner correct, yes, which I think favors

1069
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Ole Miss a little bit in terms of you're not

1070
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: getting the huge energy level that you could. But I'm

1071
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: still going with Oklahoma. That's new in Eastern time. Let's

1072
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: get our time zones right here. Norman, Oklahoma time right

1073
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: now be Central time, So be Central time, so it's

1074
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: even earlier eleven am. Yeah, yeah, Oxford, Mississippi time right

1075
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: now also central Okay. So it's not a body clock

1076
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: situation at all, but I just it is a little

1077
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: it's a little bit more, you know, can be a

1078
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: little bit more lethargic or whatever.

1079
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: Plane that early three point thirty on Fox number eleven

1080
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: BYU on the road at Iowa State. Iowa State favor

1081
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: by two and a half points. Stand to quote, the

1082
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: wise profit is Shanti. This game's about trust, babe. You know,

1083
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: I hung onto my preseason projections for a long time,

1084
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: and I continued trusting Iowa State. And that is despite

1085
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: the fact that they have basically been screaming, Hey, don't

1086
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: trust us. Don't trust it. We're not trustworthy. Actually, and

1087
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: now what's happened now The Clones have kind of put

1088
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: themselves in a bit of a box because they basically

1089
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: need to win out. They need some help in addition

1090
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: to that if they want any chance of getting back

1091
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: to that Big twelve title game. These next three weeks

1092
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: are critical. They've got the BYU game, which we're going

1093
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: to talk about here, They've got ASU on deck, They're

1094
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: on the road at TCU. My issue is, despite my

1095
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: preseason projections, I am at a point where I no

1096
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: longer feel like I can trust these guys. And if

1097
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: you look at the body of work, the best win

1098
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: might be that close loss to Cincinnati. Not a lot

1099
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: on here, look at the resume. So I'm really mixed

1100
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: on Iowa State. There was a lot that I liked

1101
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: about them coming into the season. I still like rock

1102
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: Obeck the best of all rocos of course the Boar,

1103
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: but they're banged up, especially on defense. BYU is a

1104
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: tough team. I think, to fully understand, I don't feel

1105
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: like I can trust Iowa State. So my inkling here

1106
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: is to go BYU.

1107
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to Iowa State I'm going to Iowa State

1108
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: off of a bye with BYU in the biggest letdown

1109
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: spot they'll likely have this year, a close win and

1110
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: a rivalry match, a big emotional win at home. I

1111
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: think situationally, it's just a nice spot for Iowa State.

1112
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: They hammered Arizona after the bye earlier this season at

1113
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: home and ames I don't love anything specific about Iowa

1114
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: State this year. They can throw the ball, but the

1115
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: defense is so beat up that it's hard to have

1116
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: a lot of trust in Iowa State here. But even

1117
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: all that said, BYU hasn't been that good on the

1118
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: road this year. No, they win, they've won. Winning is

1119
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: better than losing. But you know, sneaking by Arizona in Colorado,

1120
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: they weren't you know, comfortable wins for BYU. I think

1121
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: they're a good team, I really do. I'm going Iowa

1122
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: State situationally here, I think this they win this in

1123
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: a relatively low scoring fashion as well. I have at

1124
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty Iowa State.

1125
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: I think BYU's proven to me that they're winners. I agree,

1126
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,959
Speaker 1: And it's important to consider the context for BYU because

1127
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: they lost their quarterback a couple weeks before the seat,

1128
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: and so Kalani Sataki decides they're going to start a freshman,

1129
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: and suddenly there's seven and zero. They're very much in

1130
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: the playoff conversation. If nothing more, they're very much in

1131
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: the Big twelve conversation. The only two reasons that you

1132
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: don't trust BYU right here are a if you're worried

1133
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: about the letdown effect, which I think you mentioned yep,

1134
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: or if you think it's a bad matchup. And I

1135
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a bad matchup with at BYU's core.

1136
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: I think they want to play slow and they want

1137
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: to run it, and I think the running game will

1138
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: very much be there as long as they don't come

1139
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: out with that hangover. The running game is going to

1140
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: be there. Iowa States one hundred and fourteenth in yards

1141
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: allowed before contact. If BYU wants to try and grind

1142
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: this one out in the ground, I think it'll be there.

1143
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1144
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: So I think it's time that I let go of

1145
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: my preseason assumptions. I think I took this. It's about

1146
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: time I take the season for what it is. And

1147
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: I think BYA is a winner.

1148
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 2: So you're breaking up with Iowa States is what you're

1149
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: saying on this soft hard launch appis I am, which.

1150
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: Is great news for the Colons fans out there.

1151
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: But congratulations everybody.

1152
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, low scoring, ugly BYUNS twenty three to sixteen.

1153
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think their act is together enough to

1154
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: weather the letdown. Rat poison here, rat poison, Dann.

1155
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: We got one more game here, seven thirty ABC number

1156
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: three Texas A and M number twenty LSU. This one

1157
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: in Tiger Stadium at night. Texas A and M a

1158
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: two and a half point road favorite. A tough spot

1159
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: for them. They are surely no stranger to loud Rocket stadiums,

1160
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: but Tiger Stadium, everyone's gonna be rooting against him. It's

1161
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: not Kyle Field, So that part clearly favors LSU. Defensively,

1162
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, these teams are bout.

1163
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Even The big disparity is on offense. Though our friend

1164
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: Bill Connelly, you know, he ranks everything a million different ways.

1165
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: He's got A and M as the number six offense

1166
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: in the country. LSU is number forty eight. My question

1167
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: for you, and we asked this about a bunch of

1168
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: games week in and week out, how many points is

1169
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: LSU need to score in order to win. And do

1170
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: you think they can do it.

1171
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: To win this game? I think they're going to have

1172
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: to be able to score thirty. I think the varied

1173
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: nature of Texas A and M offense, Texas A and

1174
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: M's offense, with how well they can play balance and

1175
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 2: what they can get speed wise on the outside, I

1176
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: just think they're capable of scoring thirty anywhere against pretty

1177
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: much anyone. And if LSU's offense were pretty good, if

1178
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: there was decent balance, not incredible, but decent balance, there's

1179
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: a lot to like about LSU here. Now, I like

1180
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Texas A and M as a team more, but I'm

1181
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: gonna stick with my rubric here Ty, I think the

1182
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: A and M defense was exposed a little bit more

1183
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: than I would have liked. This is a second consecutive

1184
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: road game, is it not. Texas A and M second

1185
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: consecutive road game against a really good defense on the road,

1186
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: and that home team is a home dog. I'm taking

1187
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: LSU here. I'm sticking with my rubric. I'm saying the

1188
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: rubric is you take a home dog with a good

1189
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: defense at home. That's a home dog. A good defense

1190
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: at home as a dog.

1191
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: Have you stopped with a crazy crowd, incorporating the quarterback situation.

1192
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: I've never incorporated the quarterback.

1193
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: Oh you've always talked about quarterback a defense. What are

1194
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: you talking about?

1195
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: No, No, that's to make a playoff. I'm just saying

1196
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: just in terms of picks.

1197
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: This rubric changes every time we talk about it.

1198
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, making a playoff, you need quarterback and defense

1199
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 2: my picks. I will always almost always take a good

1200
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: defense as a home dog in front of a raucous crowd.

1201
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: You're nuts, You are nuts, you know that.

1202
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: Look I took South Carolina last week against Oklahoma. It's

1203
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: not perfect, but.

1204
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: Man, I see I think A and M's game plan

1205
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: is going to look a lot like Vandy against LSU,

1206
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: and Vandy ran for two thirty nine. They gave a

1207
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: bunch of different guys the ball to lose the Diego

1208
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: Diago Pavia you to keep the defense off balance. They

1209
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: didn't exactly air it out, but you know that Pavia

1210
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: threat kind of opened everything up. I gotta believe that

1211
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: Colin Klein was watching that tape and licking his chops. Okay,

1212
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: because Marcel Reid can do a lot of that same stuff.

1213
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: He could be better at it. And on the LSU side,

1214
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I like, I don't like

1215
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: that this is a night game at least from the

1216
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: eight m perspective in Tiger Stadium. That's a tall order. Yeah,

1217
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: but bear in mind LSU is basically a half team

1218
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: with a half offense.

1219
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: Agree, totally agree?

1220
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: Does that mean they're a quarter pounder? Sure?

1221
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: An all time classic favorite?

1222
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Like, if you want a true ricochet shot at Brian Kelly,

1223
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: you could say that they're a quarter pounder with sleeves.

1224
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: But that's up to you. I'm not saying that, of course. Okay,

1225
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: I just don't think LSU's got enough variety on offense

1226
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: at this point to win this game.

1227
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: Ty, Everything you're saying is right, But everything you're saying

1228
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: exists in a vacuum. This sport doesn't exist in a vacuum.

1229
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: You're talking about children traveling from Texas, A and M

1230
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: to Arkansas.

1231
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: They don't have enough variety. There's not enough variety for

1232
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: them to win.

1233
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: I think you're totally right, Ty, But do teams ever

1234
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: come out flat that should win and don't? Right? This

1235
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: is this sport.

1236
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: This is another one where you're wrong.

1237
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1238
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: I try to warn you about the Oklahoma South Carolina game.

1239
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: We you're wrong about this, Okay, that's fine.

1240
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: You saw it the game with A and M that

1241
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: if you've got variety, you can score on them, even Arkansas.

1242
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: Arkansas fired their coach ran for two sixty eight through

1243
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: for two fifty nine and three touchdowns. So this is

1244
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: not a brick wall defense. But you gotta have some variety,

1245
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think else you has it.

1246
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: I really ty, I think you're right. I'm not arguing

1247
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: with you. If they were playing this game in Vancouver,

1248
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: if they were playing this game in Copenhagen, if they

1249
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 2: were playing this game in Albany, if they were playing

1250
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: this game in Miami, I think you'd be right. This

1251
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: game has been playing baton Rouge.

1252
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: I think that matters thirty one to twenty A and

1253
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: m wins.

1254
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty three. LSU, yes, that's fine.

1255
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, to your credit, it's a two and a

1256
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: half point line, so it's not exactly like people are

1257
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: thinking blowout here. So you're not that crazy. I just

1258
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I could not go through the

1259
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: mental exercise of figuring out a way for Lcy to

1260
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: win this game.

1261
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 2: I know, but Ty, we're dealing with college football here.

1262
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: We're dealing with everybody comes out flat, everybody comes out

1263
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: with a bad game plan. We're dealing with the fact

1264
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: that Alabama lost to Florida State, who has not won

1265
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: a conference game, and it is almost Halloween. I mean,

1266
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: UAB just beat Memphis to everybody from the playoff after

1267
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: firing their coach. I mean, once you disinfect the facility

1268
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: of Trent Dilfer, it's all on the tape.

1269
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: And all right, well, those are our three big previous

1270
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: for now. We've got many others to preview on the

1271
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: Thursday episode. Some interesting matchups this week. Okay, it is

1272
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: not a Gangbusters kind of week. We don't have all

1273
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: of the headlining games being played at the same time.

1274
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: We don't even have as many headlining games as I

1275
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: think we've seen the last couple of weeks. Sure, it's

1276
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: always the quiet Ones. Ohlways, the quiet Ones. Dam be careful.

1277
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I just told you.

1278
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: UCLA at Indiana. Does the UCLA juggernaut continue in Bloomington?

1279
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: I that's the big noon game, right, big noon game. Yeah,

1280
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: We've also got South Florida at Memphis. That one's at

1281
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: noon on ESPN two Kansas State Kansas Sunflower Showdown. Nice

1282
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: little rivalry. Auburn at Arkansas should be fun as hell

1283
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: to watch, if nothing more. Agreat middle of the afternoon,

1284
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: We've got Alabama at South Carolina. Good take at South

1285
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Carolina this time, Dan, I don't think I will, but

1286
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: no Missoo at Vandy will preview that one On Thursday.

1287
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: Illinois at Washington could be interesting. Baylor at Cincinnati it

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Speaker 1: is gonna be crazy. That game's gonna be nuts. Texas

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Speaker 1: at Mississippi State, Dan, sure, and then Florida Rosdale. You

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Speaker 1: got Minnesota at Iowa. And then in a nightcap, We've

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Speaker 1: of course got the game that we just discussed, Texas

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Speaker 1: A and MLSU. We've also got Michigan Michigan State, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: at Kentucky. Sure, And if you're really a sick of

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Speaker 1: Colorado at Utah kicking off at ten to fifteen Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Time, Man, I got look, South Florida Memphis is gonna

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Speaker 2: be great. I have Northwestern Nebraska as potentially being interesting.

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Speaker 2: SMU Wake Forest. SMU hasn't lost in the ACC yet. Nope, Nope,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be tough and interesting. I wish somebody would

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Speaker 2: describe me as tough and interesting someday, But you know,

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Speaker 2: a boy can dream. No, I think it's a good week. Look,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota Iowa is gonna have upwards of thirteen to seventeen

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Speaker 2: total points scored.

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Speaker 1: Emotions are starting to run pretty high. We're seeing it

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Speaker 1: reflect in the comments we get. This season is starting

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Speaker 1: to get interesting. So many more games to discuss on

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Speaker 1: the Thursday episode. I'm excited to discuss those with you.

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Speaker 1: A comment here. This is an Apple podcast review. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of these that have come through.

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd read one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Okay, I'm ready, I think.

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Speaker 1: From Leperchawn sixty Still great after many years. Five stars.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: He did write this before hearing what I had to

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Speaker 1: say about Notre Dame against USC, so maybe the opinion

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Speaker 1: has changed. I don't know. Okay, been listening for over

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Speaker 1: eight seasons. Still great. The guys know their stuff and

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Speaker 1: their love of college football comes through each and every episode,

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Speaker 1: so much better than all the TV talking heads, Dan

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Speaker 1: and Tie forever. Thank you, Leperkhn. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Please submit your Apple reviews wherever you can anywhere you

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Speaker 1: can leave a five star review. We appreciate it. Of course,

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Speaker 1: leave us a comment wherever possible. Well, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: reading more of these just because we get so many

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Speaker 1: good ones. I want to pay sweet homage those of

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Speaker 1: you who take the time to interact with us.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I gotta stop drinking mushroom coffee before the show.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm ready to walk to Amarilla, Texas

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Not a sponsor could be?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just said mushroom coffee. I didn't say the brand.

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Speaker 1: Could be could be a sponsor.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it, but maybe I'm wrong. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you ever soft or hard launched your relationship prior

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Speaker 2: to your wedding online.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not much of an online person. With that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not much of an online person now.

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Speaker 1: I do the bare minimum because we have to with this.

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Speaker 2: I know, but you are young.

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Speaker 1: Back then, I was that young.

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Speaker 2: You were pretty young. You were in your early fifties.

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Speaker 1: You're a dick. I hate you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, I don't think you did. That's okay.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have just flipped over the old

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Speaker 1: face book machine when we got married, got it? And

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Speaker 1: maybe I changed it to in a relationship at some point.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: That's not really how it's done now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I haven't been on Facebook in an eternity,

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Speaker 1: but right, yeah, I don't know how it would adapt

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Speaker 1: to these new changing times.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I did think. I think it

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Speaker 2: was a soft launch and then I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm married now, I'm at now. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 2: what mine was way back when. But Okay, good to.

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Speaker 1: Know I've heard the term out there in popular media.

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Speaker 1: Glad that you were bringing it to the Forballer. But

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Speaker 1: I'm also glad that you explained exactly what it meant.

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Speaker 2: I had to look it up before the show began.

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Speaker 2: That's all all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, on that note, I hope you enjoyed. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground. Again, writ in, let us

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Speaker 1: know your reactions to the coach firings, the coach rumors,

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Speaker 1: the Forballer Top twelve, which college football reallyationships, who are

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Speaker 1: hard and soft? Launching your picks for week nine at

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Speaker 1: least the games that we discussed, and what games you're

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Speaker 1: most excited about in the Saturday that is to follow.

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Speaker 2: I'm hard launching a number of Athletic Department receptionists saying

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Speaker 2: it's James Franklin online four these next two months. It's

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Speaker 2: James Franklin again. Should I tell him your no? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm anticipating a lot of hard launching of James Franklin

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Speaker 2: inquiring about various new positions in warmer climates.

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Speaker 1: For that guy, have there, Dan Rubenstein for myself, Tie

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Speaker 1: hilder Man, thank you as always for supporting leave us

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Speaker 1: those reviews and comments.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll do our.

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Speaker 1: Best to read him on the next episode. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: you know the drill stay song, Peace,