1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Would you rod or eat a baby? 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Goat? 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: Are a matter? 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 4: Baby? 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Nothing, Suggle, what's the matter with you? 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, swimml and welcome to the No Dumes podcast 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, March seventeenth. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm j E. 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Did you go to 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: bed because I did. I fell asleep and then I 52 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: woke up to Dame time. My goodness, this guy fifty 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: to ten perfect at the line. What's the big takeaway? 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: I mean, is there anything besides Damian Lillard? I don't 55 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: know what it is. 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the Pelicans are a bit of a horror show. 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: They're fun to watch because you never know what you're 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: gonna get from them. This is the first team that allowed, 59 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, the other team to come back from such 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: a big deficit this season. The last six minutes they're 61 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: up seventeen. That does not happen. I think it was 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty six, and oh teams were this 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: season in that scenario. But yeah, that's fun to watch 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: in a scary kind of way because they're good or 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: they're bad, one or the other. But yeah, let's talk 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: about Dame because that guy is, you know, watching the highlights. 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: This morning. Of course I went to bed. I had 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: to get up and do the show. Hopefully you guys 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: woke up with me this morning. Because I got up, 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: I watched that Dame performance and it was a quiet 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: fifty to me. I know, it sounds dumb, but he 72 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: just allows the other team to do what they want 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: and then he comes back with his little fury. I 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: know that he loves boxing. He is a true boxing diehard. 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking watching this. He's a 76 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: boxer and a basketball player's body, and he's one of 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: those boxers that allow you to punch, you know, you 78 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: throw your stuff, and then he'll come with whatever he's 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: got and he's packing big time. He'll fire away, and 80 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: he is a special, special player. And I say it 81 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: was quiet, and I say he was in that sort 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: of that box mentality because he's not gonna come out 83 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: and just throw his haymakers. Nah. He only took twenty 84 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: shots in this gin to get the fifty points. That's nuts. 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: You know. He hit six threes. That gives you eighteen 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: plus eighteen free throws, it's thirty six. And then he 87 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: hit seven two point shots, and even in the fourth quarter, 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: you would think fifty points. He just poured it on 89 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 2: at the end. Well, he was getting everybody involved, and again, 90 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: like a boxer, like a good boxer, just took what 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: his opponent gave him and just allowed that space. And 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: then Bank Bank. It was quiet to me. And his 93 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: postgame interview was absolutely awesome. When he talked to the 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: TNT crew, he got into shooting, got into his development, 95 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: got into who he is as a person. Now, that's 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: a lot of the same questions that people ask of 97 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: him all the time, because they all just say, how 98 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 2: do you do it? Dane? Who are you man? How 99 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: are you this cool under pressure? But he really got 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: into the process and talking about how he does everything 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: harder at his agent. Being thirty years old didn't slow 102 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: him down nothing, and that kind of thing. How he 103 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: loves his people harder, he loves everybody hard He does 104 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: everything harder. So it was it was a cool night 105 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: for a Dame, even though they didn't deserve to win 106 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: this game, and the Pelican should have should have sealed it, 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: no doubt. But you always got a puncher's chance when 108 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: you got Damian Lillard Lee. 109 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: You must have been going crazy when you saw the 110 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: eighteen for eighteen at the free throw line and the 111 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: old box score there this morning, right and hitting the 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: too late of course, to putting them up one fours 113 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: like a second to go off the blood so foul, 114 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: I will say, Zion had a good chance. What a 115 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: pass to Lonzo that full court heave on the flyes 116 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: iron catches. It can't get much of a better look 117 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: with only one second inbounding it from your own basket, 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: but obviously didn't fall. But what'd you think of Lillard's 119 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: performance and his season overall? Right now? 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, incredible stuff. 121 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: Stan van Gunda, you could just see it on the 122 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: side every time they went to him as that Lee 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: just got shrunk down. 124 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 8: Low and lower. 125 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: He just knew what was coming. And it wasn't the 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: Dame step back three that killed him. It was the 127 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: free throw line, as you mentioned it Ae Friday and 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: the Blizes thirty one for thirty one. The Pelicans actually 129 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: went sixteen for twenty, which is not bad, but it 130 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: was the two late ones the Brand and Ingram eighty 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: eight percent from the free throw line clunked. That would 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: have sealed this game for him if he basically and 133 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: he had to head one and he missed. 134 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 8: Both of them. 135 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: And I looked at that stand Van Gundy and he 136 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: was just like this, we're gonna lose this game. He 137 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 4: just knew it in that moment it was going to happen, 138 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: and they did. And when Lilard went to the free 139 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 4: throw line. He just stuck those two daggers into the Pelicans. 140 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: But Lillard, he started off, he sort of knew it 141 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: was go time. When they were down seventeen, He's like, Okay, 142 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to have to put up one of his 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: sort of thirty foot threes. 144 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 8: That one dropped. 145 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: Then he had a sort of spin around three, that 146 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 4: one dropped, and then I think Gary Trent Junior hit 147 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: one in there as well, and it got to that, 148 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: even though it was still about nine points, eight points, 149 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: it just sort of felt like the Pelicans were panicking already, 150 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: because you know in Portland, when Lillard has sort of 151 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 4: smells blood in the water, he's going to come out 152 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: there and get that victory. But the Pelicans did themselves 153 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: no favors. Their offense did sort of come to a 154 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: bit of a holt. The player's defense is okay, but 155 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: it was more that I just didn't think the Pelicans 156 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: really got anything great going just to get a high percentage. 157 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: Look lenso here to three, but that was really about it. 158 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: So this one, this is a tough one here for 159 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: the Pelicans to lose this one. I mean, a seventeen 160 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: point lead with six minutes ago, even in the NBA. 161 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: We always say he can come back from any margin. 162 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 8: You should not blow that. 163 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: One, but lillid Yeah, I mean, it wasn't Lillard just 164 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: going crazy and just hitting bombs from everywhere. 165 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 8: It was just more sort. 166 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 4: Of like slowly, slowly just going to sort of wait 167 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: till the time runs out and I'm going to be 168 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: leading my team to victory. 169 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 8: And that's what he did. 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: So I'm disappointed we didn't get a classic Dame step 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: back three, you know, with the celebration, but it's just 172 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: as effective when you do it at the free throw 173 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: line if you get the win. 174 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: Steven Adams must have went to bed last night and 175 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: closed his eyes and saw in his nightmare Stemia Lillard. Man, 176 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: were they abusing him, putting him in the pick and roll? 177 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: And then Dean just going to work. And like Jackson Hayes, 178 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: you know a lot of the times, Dean would just 179 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: take the three over him because he. 180 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Can move a lot quicker, he's a lot younger. 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: He can shuffle those feet, so he can do a 182 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: better job trying to stay in front of a guard 183 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: like Lillard. 184 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: But that's all right. 185 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Lillard can hit from thirty, he'll pull in his eye. 186 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: But my god, Steven Adams was just getting embarrassed, like 187 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: I mean it was, you know, just Lillard sees they 188 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: bring him into the action then he either splits it 189 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: just goes around him, you know, getting some man ones 190 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: on Adams like just a nightmare for him. Tough, tough matchup. 191 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: I saw that worldwide. WOB tweeted test that this is 192 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: no surprise to everybody that's been watching the show all season. 193 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: Here no dunks, but Lillard leads the league in clutch 194 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: points scored one hundred and twenty four total clutch points 195 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: per game. Of course, nearly six clutch free throw percentage 196 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: LEE one hundred percent. 197 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: He has not missed. 198 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: A free throw in obviously a clutch game, which is 199 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: a game within five in the final five minutes. And 200 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: he's shooting fifty five percent from three and sixty one 201 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: percent overall in twenty two clutch games played. And oh yeah, 202 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: the Blazers have an incredible record in these close games. 203 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean that right there is his MVP case, right, 204 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I know. 205 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: CJ. McCullum comes back last night, gives them a little bit, 206 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, Nurk coming up. 207 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe in the next two weeks. 208 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: But that's Lillard MVP case, it's just like the guy 209 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: takes over in close games. But you wonder how high 210 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: how many wins do the Blazers need to get. 211 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Where do they need to be. 212 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: In the standings for him to actually legit have a 213 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: chance of getting his first MVP Top three, top two 214 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: where they are now? Like, what do you think? 215 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think this goes back even to the All 216 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Star Game and where Luka Doncic was picked over him 217 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: as the starter. Dame didn't complain, you know, he didn't. 218 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: He didn't mention that he should have been the starter. 219 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: But he definitely should have been the starter. And I'm 220 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: not saying that, you know now in retrospect he should 221 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: have been it. Back then, there's no doubt and there's talk, 222 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, the last couple of years when when Dame 223 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: didn't make the All Star Game. I guess a few 224 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: years back, when Dame wasn't in an All Star for 225 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: the first time, Dame spoke out and said, hey, this 226 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: is this is bull I should be an All Star. 227 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: And he doesn't do that anymore. He doesn't have to 228 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: mention it. You know, his game speaks for himself, for itself, 229 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: and it will in the MVP race again, I think, yeah, 230 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: he's going to be uh, he's not gonna make it 231 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: just because of the record. Let's be honest. They got 232 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: to win way too many games. What really hurts him 233 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: is that he didn't have CJ McCollum to help him 234 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: win games, because c J McCollum could have been an 235 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: All Star beside him. And now and now CJ is back, 236 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: he's having he had a career year to start this season, 237 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: and so the wins aren't there, but the fact that 238 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: they are where they are in the standings and to 239 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: be in shooting distance of a screaming distance of home 240 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: court advantage without McCollum, without Nurkic, it's all Lillard. So 241 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: it's it's just one of those seasons that if you 242 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: as a voter, are going to give it to somebody that's, 243 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: you know, in the four or five sixth range, like 244 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: they gave it to Russell Westbrook back in the day. 245 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: I guess there's there's a chance for Lillard, but his 246 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: team needs to win more games and his team needs 247 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: to be better defensively, which yeah, no, it's not on Lillard. 248 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: It's it's tough for a point guard to affect the 249 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 2: defense that much in today's game. But yeah, he's he's 250 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: going to pay for the record that isn't as good 251 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: as other teams, but they would have been up there 252 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: with McCollum shooting the way he's shooting. They came in, 253 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: both those guys on a mission. You know, Dame hasn't 254 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: had a ton of playoff success, and so I think 255 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: he came into this season thinking about doing that. Just 256 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: that that's all he's thinking about. And him and McCollum, 257 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: you know, they got a second half to play together, 258 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 2: and I think they're going to be extremely lethal. I 259 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: think people forget already what McCollum's done this season. He is, 260 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: he was playing phenomenally well at twenty six points per game, 261 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: shooting eleven threes and shooting the most threes and his 262 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: highest percentage. So they're there's something to be reckoned with 263 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: in the second half. 264 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,479 Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it going here. Next one, Tobias 265 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: I'm an All Star. Harris leads the seventy six ers 266 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 3: to another win, this one a close one, ninety nine 267 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: to ninety six over the nixt Darryl Morey was, I 268 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: believe joking in the first quarter about nineties basketball, because 269 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: it was like, what was the final score at the 270 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: end of the first quarter out It was like twenty 271 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: one to twenty or something similar to that low score 272 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: and affair. You know, again, seeing both teams under one 273 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: hundred is a little eye opening. But Lee, what's the 274 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: big takeaway from that one? 275 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: Well, Tobias Harris, Yeah, he believes he was an All 276 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: Star snub this season and he wanted to prove a 277 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 4: point against another guy who made his first All Star 278 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: Game in Julius rand Or, who was deserving. So it's 279 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: not that Julius Rando wasn't deserving, But in the fourth 280 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: quarter when they needed a couple of buckets, Tobias Harris 281 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: stood up for his team and got some inside And 282 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: I liked the way that he attacked inside and you know, 283 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 4: sort of got to his spot and hit those shots. 284 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: And then he was talking the trash and for the 285 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 4: Knicks after what happened the night before, a great performance 286 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: against Brooklyn where they came back, they had this game 287 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: really in the keeping in that fourth quarter, and then 288 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: they just seemed to run out of legs. They couldn't 289 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: get a basket down the stretch, and partly to do 290 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: with the Sixers defense, But largely I think the Knicks 291 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: just kind of ran out of gas a little bit. 292 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 4: And you know, so two nights in a row they 293 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 4: lose tight games that they you know, well, they couldn't really, 294 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: I guess they didn't really weren't close to winning the 295 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: night before against the Brooklyn Nets, but they made it 296 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: the game this one though, they had it and the 297 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: Sixers just sort of snatched it away from them late 298 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: in the game. 299 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 8: There. 300 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: You could clearly see though that offense for the Sixers 301 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: struggled for the first time really without Joel Embiid because 302 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: of the gravity that he just brings to the team. There, 303 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 4: you know, with the ball and the offense, they did 304 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: struggle a little bit, but they figured it out in time. 305 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: And Ben Simmons was very good again. But Tobias Harris, 306 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: he is the guy I believe who has to step 307 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 4: up in Joel Embiid's absence because there's so many more 308 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: points there to be scored, so many shots to be taken, 309 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: and if you are an All Star and he believes 310 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: he is, then you have to do that sort of 311 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: stuff like we saw from Dame Night in Night out, 312 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: when your team's leader and superstar is out, so this. 313 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 8: Was a good win for Philadelphia. 314 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: It looked like the Knicks were going to be able 315 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: to get one, but they dropped to well, they improved 316 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: to two and zero and moral victories into two nights, 317 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: I guess for the next but unfortunately zero and two 318 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: on the standings. But yeah, Tobias Harris, this is the 319 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: sort of stuff we saw it against the Utah Jazz. 320 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: I think it was just before the All Star break 321 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 4: as well, where he sees a match up and he's like, 322 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: I can take this guy and he should and he does. 323 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: You know, he's a big, strong guy, he's all he 324 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: could rise up and hit that shot. And that's again 325 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: what he did last night against Nicks. A couple, I 326 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: mean they did throughout the game, but really in the 327 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: in that stretch down the end there, I think he 328 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: hit seven points there on a road there for Philadelphia. 329 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: That's what you need from Alida. And so he was 330 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: talking trash to the small crowd in there saying I'm 331 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: an All Star, and Doc Rivers I think agreed with 332 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: him after the game, but Doc Weed, Doc loves his 333 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: own players. He hypes up his own players. So a 334 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: good win for Philadelphia and some good leadership shown by 335 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: Tobias Harris. I didn't know Tobias Harris talk trashy. 336 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know he even knew what to say or 337 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: to get that angry. I never saw him as that 338 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: type of guy. But I loved it, like like Lie 339 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: said he was. He was a bit of a closer 340 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: last night for the seventy six Ers. He didn't good 341 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 3: for them all season, There's no doubt, shooting unbelievable percentages, 342 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: you know, a lot. There was a lot of debate 343 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: whether he should have been picked for the All Star 344 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: team with the Sixers having one of the better records. 345 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: Should they have had another the third guy I guess 346 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: there to join and dwell and beat himn Simmons. But 347 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: this is huge for Sixers fans, Like, you're gonna need 348 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: some of these Tobias Harris performances in playoff series, the 349 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: further you get in right into you know, possibly the second, third, 350 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: and fourth round, right. 351 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Toby, Toby, Toby, It was fun to watch him go. 352 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: It never rains in southern Philadelphia. That's a Tony Tony 353 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Tony except when Toby, except when Toby shoots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 354 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: let's it feels good to see Tobias Harris talk some trash. 355 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: Let's get down with that. I want to see more 356 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: of Tobias Harris doing that, because, yeah, they desperately need 357 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: him to be a guy who takes over on the wing. 358 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: He is their fourth quarter score. He's got to be 359 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: their Jimmy Butler. There's no doubt when Jimmy Butler left 360 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, they didn't have another guy like that. 361 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: It's not Simmons, it's you know, he just can't create 362 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: the same way Tobias Harris has been taking over. Lee 363 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: mentioned that game against the Jazz. He's been their fourth 364 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: quarter score type guy from the wing. And yeah, Doc 365 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: believes in him, obviously from back in the day when 366 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: they were with the Clippers. But yeah, everyone sort of 367 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: waivers on Tobias Harris as being a number one wing player. 368 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: So no one's going to believe it until it happens 369 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: in the postseason. And yeah, that's that's what it comes 370 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: down to. 371 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: It's very Chris Middleton like, right, that's what it's It's 372 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: so comparable. I mean, I know we talked about their 373 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: numbers at the All Star Break, Middleton and Harris and 374 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: how close they were, and it's like the same thing 375 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: with Middleton. 376 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he can have. 377 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: Some monster games in a playoff series, but he can 378 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: go missing at times too. And I think there's a 379 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: concern Lee with Tobias Harris doing the exact same thing. 380 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: You just need some more consistency from those guys that 381 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: are your second or you know, and maybe in this case, 382 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: like your third best player. 383 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: And that's what happened down in the Bubble. He was 384 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: useless in those clutch moments when they needed him again 385 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: to Celtics. He couldn't hit those shots. He got the opportunities, 386 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: but he couldn't and I think a lot of the 387 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: time he was settling for shots, whereas again last night 388 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: and against the Jazz of the two sort of strongest 389 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: examples of when he sees a matchup and he's like, 390 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: I'm not going to settle just for the mid ranger 391 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: here or the long too. 392 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 8: Instead he goes into the paint. 393 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: And you know, he did a little fall away there 394 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: last night, but that's fine because you felt that he 395 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: was in control and the team was looking for him 396 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: as well down the stretch their because we know Simmons 397 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 4: is obviously a great passer, but he's not the sort 398 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: of guy who's going to be able to go out 399 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 4: there and give you the basket that the team needs. 400 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: Harris is that guy. You know, when Seth Curry's out there, 401 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: you know he can hit that shot. But Tobias Harris 402 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 4: can create for himself and put himself in a spot 403 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: where he can hit those shots. So yeah, that's the thing. 404 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: He does need to step up in the playoffs and 405 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: show he can do this in games that are not 406 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: just march games against Nicks. You know, he's got to 407 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: be able to do it the game when the team 408 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 4: really really needs him to because he's getting paid like 409 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: a superstar. He's got the numbers, he's got the coach 410 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 4: there and Doc Rivers, who's clearly had an incredible effect 411 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: on him. And we wondered about that when Doc came over, 412 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: would he be able to sort of get him back 413 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: to La Clippers Tobias Harris where he was also a 414 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 4: friend all star and I think we are starting to 415 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 4: see that. 416 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 8: But this is fine. It's now. 417 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 4: It's however long Jowell and Beat is out is when 418 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: Tobias Harris needs to keep doing it. But even when 419 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: he comes back, he needs to still be an option 420 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: there for filled up. I think he has been more 421 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: so this season, but will he be able to consistently 422 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: do it? Because again, I think that's where the Chris 423 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: Middleton comparison comes in. It's like this guy seems like 424 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 4: he can do it, but you don't always see it 425 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: in the more important games in the playoffs. 426 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, next game, Donovan Mitchell's late three helps the Jazz 427 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: beat the Celtics one seventeen, one oh nine. This was 428 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: the first game on TNT last night, sort of a 429 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: back and forth affair. I thought it was pretty good. 430 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: Some runs from each team to make it interesting. Utah 431 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: ultimately though, hitting nineteen three pointers, that's sort of their mo. 432 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: When they're hitting that many, they're a tough, tough out. 433 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell had eight of his twenty one. I guess 434 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: it was in the fourth Jordan Clarkson twenty off the bench. 435 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: Had d Wade fallen in love with Jordan and Clarkson. 436 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess Shaqo was sort of too. Everybody's 437 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: loving Jordan clarks I thought Lee was the only one 438 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: saying that guy should be an All Star. Mike Conley 439 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: scored seventeen and then Rudy Gobert I thought, had like 440 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: a dominant game for only sixteen twelve in the box score, 441 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: a huge difference maker over his last two games. Rudy's 442 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: got forty points, forty four wards, and eight blocks. That's 443 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: what you want from your center position. So like they 444 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: got contributions the Jazz did from their their main four guys, 445 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: and that's big. But let's talk a little Celtics, because 446 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: this team is weird. 447 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: They now fall. 448 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: Into eighth to eight this season against the teams with 449 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: the five best records in the NBA. 450 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: They're zero and two against the Jazz. 451 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: They lost to the Suns, they lost twice to the Sixers, 452 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: lost twice to the Nets, and lost once to the Lakers, 453 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: oh and eight. When you add it all up, they're 454 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: the worst fourth quarter team in the league. What do 455 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: you make of this squad? I mean, Danny Ainge has 456 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 3: to has to do something right at this All Star 457 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: break and lean into maybe like as big as a 458 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: move that he can make, because this is like they're 459 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: just looking like a five hundred team here. And that's 460 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: with a great Tatum performance and a great Brown performance 461 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: last night. But they should be much better than this. Totally. 462 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: They are one of the enigmas of this season for me, 463 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: and I don't know if a trade really makes them 464 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: much better. It has to come within. They have to 465 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: play defense like they did in the fourth quarter in 466 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: this game. They cared in the fourth quarter, but they 467 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: got to play it a little more consistently throughout the game. 468 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: They just don't look like Brad Steven Celtics teams that 469 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: play really hard. They don't, you know, it's it is 470 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: a weird season, and they didn't have Tatum for several 471 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: weeks and something happened. 472 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: I just don't there for a good chunk. 473 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought, yeah, I thought Smart would come 474 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: back and just everything would be, you know, key into 475 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: the key hole done. You know, I thought Smart would 476 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: just bring everything back. But they're they're not them. It's 477 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: not them. So what like a Harrison Barnes is the 478 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: rumor from the Sacramento that would kind of be you know, 479 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, they're they're sort of glue guy, whether it's 480 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: a small ball five, they try and figure it out 481 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: that way. With Harrison Barnes a very good player. He's 482 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: still having a good year for Sacramento, but I don't 483 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: think he changes their defensive mentality, and I just think 484 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: it really has to come within. So there this team 485 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: just I don't know something something is off and I'm 486 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: not sure any trade, like if is there a rumored 487 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: deal out there that makes them great? Yeah, there's Emmanuel 488 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: Guzman is throwing it out in the stream team if 489 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: the Celtics should trade for Thagic as they're calling Thaddeus 490 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: Young in Chicago because he's having a great season. He 491 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: is great a small ball five there. Yeah, he would, 492 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: he would, he'd be he'd be a good glue piece, 493 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: no doubt. Again, I don't. I don't know. There's a 494 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: there's a there's a mentality that even Thaddeus Young who's 495 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: having a great year, doesn't really change on the defense. Man, 496 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: I hate to talk about defense, especially here, you know, 497 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: filling in for TK here, but uh yeah, that's what 498 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: it is to me. It's not the offense. As you said, 499 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown are all stars and then 500 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: can carry a team offensively. Yeah, they didn't get to 501 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: the free throw line a ton yesterday and that's an issue. 502 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: But I don't think Thaddeus Young is is going to 503 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: solve who they are. That's that's that's different. That's a 504 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: that's a that's another question. And maybe it's just a 505 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: strange season that's throwing them off, or maybe they think 506 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: that they can just go into the playoffs and kick ass, 507 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: because that's the way they played yesterday against the Jazz. 508 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: They kind of just waited till the fourth quarter to 509 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: turn it on. 510 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: What do you think lee from this one or the 511 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: Celtics overall here basically five hundred. 512 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was up until basically halfway through 513 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: that fourth quarter when the Jazz took control and the 514 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: Celtics then just seemed to be scrapping. And it's really 515 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you've mentioned Gobert and I thought he was dominant. 516 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: He needs to be more dominant when he doesn't really 517 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: go up against another team that has a big that 518 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: can really contain him because he's long, he's athletic, he 519 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 4: run the floor last night. Yeah, Robert Williams is athletic himself, 520 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: but he is a reserve center. And then you've got 521 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 4: Tys who's he's a stretch center. You know, he had 522 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: a decent game himself there last night. But I think 523 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 4: that's where the Celtics need to improve. I don't think 524 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes is the answer. I think they need to 525 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 4: decide what they're don't doing in the middle. Andre Drummonds 526 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: out there, I don't know if he's the answer or not, 527 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: but I'm just not sure that Tys is also the entry. 528 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: He's more just a stretch big rather than the big 529 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: that I think they need. Because you know, Marcus Smart 530 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: last night, he was back, he's been back, and he 531 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 4: didn't shoot all that well. He gives them that perimeter 532 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: defense that I think they need. Offensively, when you've got 533 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: Kember playing, Tatum and Brown, They've got enough offensive weapons 534 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: out there. I don't think they need another guy like 535 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes because he's not a great defender for them. 536 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: I just think they need some more help in the middle. 537 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: But also just in that fourth quarter, like they gave 538 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 4: up forty points. You can't afford to do that. Even 539 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: though the Jazz are a great team, you know, offensively 540 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: they're exceptional, and they scored a lot of points and 541 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell hit those big threes late, which is, you know, 542 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: that's what a good team should do. But you can't 543 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: give up forty points at home. It just cannot do 544 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: that in the fourth quarter. If it happens in the 545 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: first quarter. Okay, sometimes that happens. Teams will get out 546 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: to a slow start. But in a situation where you've 547 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: got one of the best teams, not quite on the ropes, 548 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: but in a position to beat them, and you can 549 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 4: see forty in that last quarter, it's just not going 550 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: to get it done. So I think they need to 551 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: look into someone like Drummond and just see if he 552 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: can help them in the middle a little bit, because 553 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: I don't think Tyson Williams can together can fill that hole. 554 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: You think there's a trade still be made for Miles Turner. 555 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: You may have to sweeten the pot a little bit more, 556 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: but he sure would help inside if that's what you're 557 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: concerned about. 558 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he would be an upgrade for them, for sure. 559 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: He has his own issues defensively in the pick and roll, 560 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: but as far as his presence blocking shots, he's an 561 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 4: improves them there, and that is one of the rumors 562 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: that being touted. I'm not sure what the Pacers would 563 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: want in return though, for him, because that's the question. 564 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: I mean then obviously not going to give up one 565 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: of their younger players. I guess Danny Angel still got 566 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: some picks out there. But yeah, I think that's where 567 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: they have to win everything. I think that's where Danny 568 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: Ainge nearly needs to almost make a trade for it 569 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 4: anyway in that position and shore up the middle. Yeah. 570 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: I saw a Celtics blog rating this morning that it 571 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: feels like the Celtics at this point the season basically 572 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: being five hundred as we near the trade deadline, that 573 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Danny Ainge has to pick like one or two roads here. 574 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: One you got to package all. 575 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: These young guys and the picks you do have and 576 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: really go for a difference maker and try and get 577 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: somebody in here to like help your chances to go 578 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: deep in the playoffs. Or Two, the opposite of that is, Okay, 579 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: we are what we are. We're probably not a title contender. Well, 580 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: now let's lean into playing some of our own young 581 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: guys more minutes because this is the thing that's going on. Okay, 582 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: So time Lord then has to get more minutes over 583 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: Tristan Thompson. Now Thompson was injured last night, he didn't play. 584 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: Time Lord got a lot of those, so that's fine, 585 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: but Pritchard needs to get more, you know, like they 586 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: need to then go that way and that's not tanking, 587 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 3: that's just like that's development and getting some of these 588 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 3: young guys more reps and stuff like that. But that 589 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: the Celtics are at this point where they have to 590 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: pick one of the two. Now, like you're saying tasks, Well, 591 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: if you're picking the one where you're packaging your young players. 592 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Who, by the way, aren't all. 593 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: That enticing I think to a lot of teams because 594 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: they have not knocked it out of the park with 595 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: a lot of these picks, and you put them together 596 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: in picks like who are you getting, Like who's the 597 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: difference maker? Because you don't think it's Harrison Barnes, you know, 598 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: it's probably not even like Aaron Gordon, John Collins. I mean, 599 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: I think you can just sort of go through the 600 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: list of available guys outside of putting Jaalen Brown in 601 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: any sort of trade deal where you're then maybe getting 602 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: now well exactly, but you'd have to do that to 603 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: get like a Beal or Karl Anthony Towns or like 604 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: a big name player, because you're not going to be 605 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: able to get them. And you're right, that's like yours 606 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: here you're saying no, no, no, you're not going to do 607 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: that you're not going to split up the Bean town 608 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: boys there in Tatum and Brown. Well, no, you're probably 609 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: not yet, not yet, you'd rather go the other route. 610 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: But I think they do have to pick one here, 611 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: one or the other because they're just not that great 612 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: a team right now. They're not a title contender. You 613 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: watch them, We watched a lot of Celtics. You don't 614 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: look at them going, oh yeah, this team's winning three 615 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: or four rounds. You just don't, like, there's no chance. 616 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 2: It's just why, it wasn't that long ago that you 617 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: would look at them like that, you know, last season anyway, 618 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: where they seem like they were on the precipice of 619 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: being good. So yeah, is it a glued dude as 620 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: somebody who somebody who can pull that defense together. Is 621 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 2: it a big who can really influence on them on 622 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: that end or can influence the locker room on that end. 623 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: I think it's somebody that kind of just has to be. 624 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if it comes from the outside though, 625 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: like somebody that can just bring them all together, because yeah, 626 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: I love some of their young pieces. I know that 627 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: most people aren't high on them, and that that makes 628 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: sense because they haven't produced a lot. 629 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: What pieces are you high on in all honesty. 630 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: Only only one. I guess high high on a piece 631 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 2: I like. I like aaron Ne Smith. He hasn't been 632 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: able to play, never play a season. Yeah, yeah, he 633 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: was injured. He barely had a camp. And he's he's 634 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: played a little bit. I mean he is. He's a 635 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: wing score that's what he is. And he can shoot, 636 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: but he's you know, he's a little guy. If you're 637 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: gonna put him in Pritchard on the floor and play 638 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: them a ton, they're not going to be a playoff 639 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: championship team that way. So I understand there's there's something 640 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: has to happen, you know, bigger than that, Bigger than 641 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: those guys. And and yeah, maybe Drummond's something, but again 642 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: it's a locker room thing for me. 643 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: Other games from last night, just quickly. Jimmy Butler scored 644 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: twenty eight. He'd stay hot one thirteen ninety eight win 645 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: over the cast. Zach Lavine' scored forty as the Bulls 646 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: beat the Thunder one twenty three, one oh two. Hawks 647 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: would again one nineteen, one oh seven. The Rockets lost 648 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 3: now seventeen straight games. Wow, it's getting up there. What's 649 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 3: the record. 650 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're getting closed. 651 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: Twenty six, the sixes, the sixes, I think it was, Yeah, 652 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: Calves are sixers. 653 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Calves. I think the Calves still 654 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: hold that streak. Now, if you go to that dumb 655 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: Wikipedia page, which I did this morning, the longest losing streaks, 656 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: there's a top The top team is twenty eight, but 657 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: that goes over two seasons. 658 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 8: Philadelphia. 659 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't count. No, it doesn't count. So twenty 660 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: six I think is the actual record. Am I right? 661 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like, yeah it is. It's twenty six. It's Cleveland. 662 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: But Philadelphia has that record as well from the season prior, 663 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: but that was obviously when they were just tanking. 664 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 8: But yeah, we'll get there. 665 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Is supposed to be back next game. 666 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. They haven't won a game when he hasn't. 667 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: Played r Yeah, he left, they started losing, so you know, 668 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: if he could bookend that losing streak, he'd look awfo, 669 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: he comes back and they win, he's gonna look great. 670 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: And then the final game Lebron ninety ninth triple double, 671 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: the great, the great one. Wayne Gretzky shout it to him. 672 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: The Lakers crush the Wolves one thirty seven one. Just 673 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: a few things from those games. You know, we were joking, 674 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: we're always talking about the MVP conversation the table. 675 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: We said last time. 676 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: I think we talked about Jimmy Butler that he's at 677 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: the bar right lely, he's not at the table. 678 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: He's at the bar. 679 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: He is definitely ordering shots for everybody, bartenders included. He's 680 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: having way more fun I think at the bar. Everybody's 681 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: like a little more buttoned up, a little more formal 682 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: at the actual MVP table. But Jimmy's going crazy. He 683 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: is playing phenomenal as the heat keep rolling. So you know, yeah, 684 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: talk about yeah, go ahead. 685 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: Well just with the Celtics again losing last night and 686 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 4: you know it's a it's a game and a half. 687 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 8: They're up on them. 688 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: The Charlotte Hornes are actually in fifth now and the 689 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: hate I think I got the paces in the next 690 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: two games here. But yeah, this is this is Jimmy 691 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: Butler just out there, just like I'm a very very 692 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: good player when I play, and it just changes so 693 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: many things for Miami because when they were down and 694 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 4: I think they were seven games below five hundred at 695 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: one point, they look bad but he just comes back 696 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: and just installs the mentality on that team, that heat culture. 697 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 4: Okay it was against the Cabs, sure, but still this 698 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 4: is where they just need to quietly bank those wings 699 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: and climb in the standings. And they're doing a great 700 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: job of it. Jimmy, he hasn't played enough games. He 701 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: just can't get in the m VP conversation. They won't 702 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 4: let him at the table, the Waights coming over and saying, no, 703 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: I haven't got any more chance. 704 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 8: It's all crammed in there. 705 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, you can buy a round of shots for 706 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: the boys. 707 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: He's celebrated. Trusts men might get there. Give him a 708 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: little bit more time here. They keep winning. Who's got a. 709 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 8: Better chance, jim Jimmy or Lillard? Do you think of 710 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 8: pulling it off as a dark horse? 711 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: Lillard by a mile? Yeah, I mean, I don't even 712 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: think that's a question. Like Lillard will be a top 713 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: five for sure at the end of the season. If 714 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: he didn't play a game from the should he should 715 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: be will? 716 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 8: It just depends on the wins and a big ISSU. 717 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: But Jimmy's going to try and get his way to 718 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: that table. He might figure out a way. He'll walk 719 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: over in his cow boy moods and stuff like that. 720 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, the wedder be distracted. He would just grab a 721 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 8: table from from an. 722 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: Pull up another table like he's slight like that. Shout 723 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: out to Tray Kirby. I wish he was here this week. 724 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: He's destroying me this week. I started thinking about it. 725 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: Bulls defeated the Raps, right, I think that was on Sunday, 726 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: so we're talking about it on Monday, Trace Bowles of course. 727 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: And then last night Trey's Bulls defeat my second favorite team, 728 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: Canadian Thunder. So he's rolling and Trey uh. If you 729 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: are watching or listening later in the day, Lowry marketing 730 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: huge dunk on sweet Moses Brown, who had a decent 731 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 3: game for okay, see by the way, but that could 732 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: be his first top shot moment. Who knows doesn't have 733 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: one yet? 734 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: You he doesn't have one yet. This has got to 735 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: be a moment. This was a monstrous Maybe because it's 736 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: lowry marketing it maybe it didn't go up like you 737 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: know in Anthony Edwards dunk. But this is huge on 738 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: a guy. Yeah, you know, people didn't give this enough love. 739 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: Stacey King went bonkers. Yeah you know it was on 740 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: Moses Brown and he Stacy King immediately he said, what 741 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: did Brown do to you? 742 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 7: Oh? 743 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: It's so good, good way to go see say you're and. 744 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: The final sort of, I guess it's a question. From 745 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: those other games, as I called them, Tess, I noticed 746 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: on this Morning's What you Need to Know that you 747 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: avoided saying anything about the Atlanta Hawks and they won 748 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: their sixth consecutive game. And I've been watching, I've been 749 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: loving your morning shows, and every time the Hawks would win, 750 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: you would make a point of saying, yeah, yeah, I'm 751 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: not buying into it. It doesn't really mean much. Yeah, 752 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: they have a loss with name may million. Not yet 753 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: you did it after like win three, four or five 754 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: and then six, you didn't say anything, So have you? 755 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Are you coming around or now? I was against the Rockets. 756 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: Who cares even though they're six and zero under name mcmellon. 757 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I love my man Lloyd Pierce, so I'm 758 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: always gonna say the Hawks made a mistake when they 759 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: fucked him. But I did mention them. I said, you know, 760 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: Gallinari has As has finally turned it around. That's very 761 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: big for them. And you know he looks like the 762 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: guy that they signed for twenty million dollars per That 763 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: makes sense. He stretches the floor and Trey's finding. But listen, 764 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: they obviously have something going on that's good that I 765 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: will never give them credit for. But ain gonna happen. Listen, 766 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: They've got to flow about them. They seem to know 767 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: their roles. I mean, this is a week till the 768 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: trade deadline, and now there's going to be something else 769 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: that's going to be thrown at them. They can't go 770 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: forward with the same rotation. I don't think. I think 771 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: there's going to be another change, and I don't know 772 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: if this is going to last all that long. That's 773 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: all I gotta say. You know, John Collins feeling good 774 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: in his role, you know, playing seventeen and nine, but 775 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 2: he wants to be a max guy. So is he 776 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: going to beat dealt? But they have beat the teams 777 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: that they are in front of, and Gallinari ball in 778 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: four of his last five games twenty plus yet twenty 779 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: nine in this one. Tony Snell can't miss, and so 780 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: you can't just load up on Trey Young at this point. 781 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're beating teams that they should be beating. Yeah, 782 00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: because they. 783 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 3: Don't have a like big big comebacks too, like that 784 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: they maybe had no right to win. But you're right, 785 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: you're right. Look, hey, their whole goal with firing Lloyd 786 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: Pierce was get in the damn playoffs. Get in the 787 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: play in tournament. And you know, okay, six game winning 788 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: streak in the Eastern Conference, that's going to help you 789 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: in the standing. So they're getting the. 790 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: Dubs for them, and even if the competition hasn't been that. 791 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: Great, they've got They've got the Thunder next at home, 792 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 4: and then they go on game road. 793 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: There we go, there, we go right their. 794 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 4: Flat and they've got yeah, the clip as like as 795 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 4: the Nuggets Sun. 796 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 8: So we might find out which sort of team they 797 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 8: are at the end of. 798 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: That eight games. That's a lot. And Sam Youonodo mentions 799 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: this in the stream team that I did this to 800 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: Yannis when I called Jannis overrated in twenty fifteen. I 801 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: was you know, well, listen, I wasn't wrong then, but 802 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to be using reverse psychology here either. 803 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: I live in Atlanta. I want to see the Hawks great, 804 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: but uh, you know, I'm just not buying it quite yet. 805 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 2: But hey, I hope I really hope they do turn 806 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: it around. I thought this would be a playoff team 807 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: coming in the season. True, Hey, let's watch some some 808 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: thunder Hawks on Thursday night. 809 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: Can't wait, all right, steime for is this news? Oh, 810 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 3: it's been so long since I give you guys an 811 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: NBA headline and you tell me whether or not it's 812 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 3: actually newsworthy. First one, bleacher Report, Doc Rivers says Ben 813 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: Simmons is a lock, according him, there to win NBA 814 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year. Juicy headline, Bleacher Report. They're 815 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 3: really good at these headlines. Lely, is this news? 816 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: No, this is not news that Doc Rivers would support 817 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 4: one of his own players. In twenty fifteen, he wanted 818 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 4: an investigation if DeAndre Jordan didn't win Defensive Player of 819 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: the Year. He didn't win Defensive Player of the Year. 820 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: Ben Simmons is a lock in my opinion for the 821 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 4: All Defensive team he was last season, but a luck 822 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 4: for winning Defensive Player of the Year. He's far from it. 823 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: I think Rudy Gobert is in the box seat to 824 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 4: win that this season. From it, I don't know both well, 825 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 4: he's far from a lock. I mean a luck to 826 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 4: me is like Jordan Clarkson's a lock to win six 827 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 4: Man of the Year. The LaMelo Balls are locked to 828 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 4: win Rookie of the Year. 829 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 8: I would not. 830 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: Say, I would not say that there's anyone else really 831 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: in a award position who's a lock at this stage. 832 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: I would sa Rudygobert is the favorite. You know, MVP, 833 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 4: there's several favorites right now. But you know, a coach 834 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: really sees and has someone like Ben Simmons at disposal 835 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: to say, guard the point guard, guard, the center guard, 836 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 4: the power forward guard, the shooting guards. Is out on 837 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: the perimeter, rebound the ball, start the fast break. That's 838 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 4: clearly what Ben Simmons does for the Philadelphia seventy six 839 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: is and I think Doc Rivers wants more recognition for 840 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: him because of that. I think most people now, even 841 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 4: casuals to the game, appreciate what Ben Simmons does defensively. 842 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 4: But when it comes to defense, you know, statistically, these 843 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: things just don't stand out as much as if, like 844 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 4: a guy like Bradley Bill's having thirty five points a game, 845 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 4: for example, you say, wow, see he's clearly having a 846 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: great season. You can't always see in the box score 847 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 4: the statistical impact that someone like Ben Simmons has on 848 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 4: them defensively. But when you're watching the game and his 849 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 4: players got the ball, they almost every time pass out 850 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: or can't get a good shot off, or they can't 851 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: beat him off the dribble because he's so versatile and 852 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 4: he's so quick. So those sorts of things that the 853 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: eye test proves it more than the statistics do. But 854 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 4: he's an incredible defender. And you know, Doc Rivers I'm 855 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 4: sure is thrilled to have him, of course on his team, 856 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 4: but he is not a lock to win Defensive Player 857 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 4: of the Year tas. 858 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: What do you think, No, he's not a lock. But 859 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: it is good that the common fan is understanding what 860 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: Ben does because he is a badass on that end. 861 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 2: And I think you know the stats of like deflections 862 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: and loose balls recovered and the hustle stats as they 863 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: are listed on NBA dot com. Thanks John Schuman for 864 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: updating that every morning. Those are becoming and should be 865 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 2: becoming a little bit more part of the chat when 866 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 2: we talk defense. I think those are super perperate. Fred 867 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 2: Vane Feliet has been thrown in there as the leading 868 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: deflections man, So I love, I love talking about Ben 869 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 2: Simmons because with what he does. But it's it's just 870 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 2: hard for a you know, a wing type guy, a 871 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: guy who doesn't guard the rim essentially because he does 872 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 2: guard everybody. It's it's totally true, but he doesn't necessarily 873 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 2: guard the rim. It's hard in today's NBA where nobody's 874 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 2: you know, touching anybody, to win it on the perimeter, 875 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: it's easier. It's still easier for for a big guy 876 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: to do it, especially because you can get to the 877 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: rim so easy. So big guys make an impact. So, uh, 878 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, Ben could, he could, he could win it, 879 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: and uh, Doc is you know Doc's. 880 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: Trying to help. 881 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's also trying to help his guy, you know, 882 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 2: be more confident on the offensive end too. I think 883 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 2: you know, he's just trying to trying to pump him up, because, yeah, 884 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: Joel Embiid, you're our m v P. But we're not 885 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: just gonna win with Joel Embiid. Tobias Harris, you're an 886 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: all star, but you know, we we also need Ben 887 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: Simmons to be great. So it's uh, Docs, Doc so 888 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: a master motivator. That's why he's been so good for 889 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 2: so long. 890 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 3: I like this comment here from PJ. Lee does to 891 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 3: Ben what Task did to Giannis. Ozzy to Ozzie, Greek 892 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: to Greek, No hate, just love. I see what you 893 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 3: guys are doing your countryman. Yeah, and then you like say, ah, 894 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: you're not there yet, you can be better. 895 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: Just tough love. 896 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: It worked for Giannis two time MVP, you know, Task 897 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: calling him over righted way back in the day. And 898 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: then now I see what you're doing here, Lee, Yeah, 899 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 3: you could be better. You could hit us three, you 900 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: could lock it up a little bit more defensive. You 901 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 3: guys are smart man. 902 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 903 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 4: Well, Ben's dad, Dave, of course, used to play for 904 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 4: the Melbourne Tigers. 905 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: It's funny because my favorite sitcom in Australia Ben's friend, 906 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: Ben's dad Dave. 907 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 4: I think from what I remember that Dave, he was 908 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: a much more talented offensive player, but not as good defensively. 909 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: So somehow there was like almost like a Freaky Friday 910 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: sort of situations happened with right Ben's become an incredible 911 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: defensive player and not a great shooter of the ball anyway. 912 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 4: Offensively is good, but just not a great shooter of 913 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 4: the ball. But Andrew Gaze used to throw those loves 914 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 4: to beat Dive Simmons The Double D's Dave Simmons. Dave 915 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: called which shout out to the Melbourne talking my goodness. 916 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, four morning poops putting in the comment section 917 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 3: in the stream team skeets get that going for SGA 918 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: there starts saying he'll never make an All Star team. 919 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 2: Wow. 920 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to, you know, flip it on its 921 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: head here and stop saying he's gonna make it. 922 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: Say you're never. 923 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 3: Gonna make a kid, You're gonna be h. You're just 924 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: gonna be always on the outs. It's a good idea. 925 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 3: I love this reverse psychology. You get these guys playing harder. Okay, 926 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 3: next one the Athletic. Yeah, show out to the athletic guys. 927 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 3: Go subscribe the Athletic dot com slash no dunes. We 928 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 3: did confirmed tests one dollar a month for new subscribers. 929 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: Is that correct? I confirmed it was headed in that direction. 930 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: Have you checked? I haven't checked me neither. 931 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: But we we've been We've told the higher ups that. 932 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 3: We need to. We've done our Yeah, we we've done 933 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: our jump. It's a good way to put it. 934 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: Okay. 935 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 3: So the headline though from the Athletic Lebron James becomes 936 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 3: part owner of the Boston Red Sox. 937 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: Is this news test. 938 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: Very good head The Athletic can write some good headlines too. Yeah. 939 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: So Lebron thirty six years of age, young man. He's 940 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 2: already owned two percent of the Liverpool soccer franchise, which 941 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: is owned by this same ownership group that also owns 942 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox. He's got a relationship with him, 943 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: so he's expanding that relationship. And yeah, this is huge 944 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: news because the Fenway Sports Group which owns the Sox, 945 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 2: owns Liverpool. It's among the largest ownership entities in the world. 946 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: I've learned recently he and Maverick Carter will become the 947 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: first black partners of that entity. So yes, very very 948 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: big news. Congrats to them and congrats to FSG. Also though, 949 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: just on another front, when he was asked about this, 950 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 2: he was asked about purchasing an NBA team, So this 951 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: is big news to me. The Athletic writer Yova and 952 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: Buha transcribed it. He reiterated that he wants to own 953 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: his NBA franchise after he retires. Quote, that's my goal. 954 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: My goal is to own an NBA franchy and it'll 955 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 2: be sooner than later? 956 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: Excuse me? 957 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's got a plan. Uh, you know, he's 958 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: always calculated. So when's it happening sooner rather than later? 959 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: He's still got to play a few years. There's no 960 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 2: way he can own one, you know, in the next 961 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: few years. That's not legal. You can own the Sacks, 962 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 2: but you can't own any team in the NBA until 963 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: you retire. So, I mean, he's probably gonna do it. 964 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 2: When he was early forties, has already got a plan. 965 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: Was he bringing the Sonics back? 966 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 3: I want to know what team franchise is Lebron James 967 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 3: going to own. That's fascinating to me, Like is it 968 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: is it an expansion team because by then or you know, 969 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: are we adding teams? Is there new squad? 970 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: I think I think it's the Sonics. I think it's 971 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: the Songs because how can he say how can he 972 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: say I'm going to own a team when he doesn't 973 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: know if it's going to be sold. He seems like 974 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: he's got a plan, you know, and that he was well. 975 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: I think he's just got a lot of money. 976 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 4: But does he have does he have does he have 977 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 4: franchise owning money? 978 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: Though? 979 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at with think at least two 980 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 4: and two and a half billion to get started on 981 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 4: any team. I mean you can take teams like the 982 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 4: Lakers and the Knicks. He's not going to be able 983 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 4: to afford them. So maybe an expansion team. But even 984 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 4: for Lebron as much money as he's got, you know, 985 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 4: that's a that's a different level when you have owning 986 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 4: an NBA franchise money. And I mean he'll obviously get 987 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 4: other people to come along and investors and things like that, 988 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 4: but still, I mean he's like, how much what do 989 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 4: you think he's net worth is right now? I think 990 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 4: he's worth a billion. I mean probably. 991 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. 992 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 3: I actually no, I never know when these things, but 993 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: I think Lebron wouldn't have a problem when it's all said. 994 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: Finding. 995 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's played finding people who, yeah, to go into 996 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 3: business with him. Yeah, franchise, let's just put that. 997 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, getting his tentacles out there right now. Yeah, for 998 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 2: years he has developed a relationship with with FSG here 999 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: Fenway Sports Group. That's monstrous. I don't know how much 1000 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 2: money he has, but I definitely know he can afford 1001 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: The Athletic dot Com slash no Dunk subscription for one 1002 00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 2: dollar a month. 1003 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: Pretty you think Lebron has got a subscription to the Athletic. 1004 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: I bet you he does. 1005 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's reading Bouha for sure, there's no doubt. 1006 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 4: I want to know if there's uh some from some 1007 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 4: Bean town boys in the in the stream team here, 1008 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 4: how do they feel about Lebron owning a Boston team 1009 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 4: because he already owns the Celtics technically, but h chapters. 1010 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 3: Fans were catching strays like I saw that to be 1011 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 3: going around, like what Lebron already owns well living and 1012 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 3: now Boston's Red Sox and the Toronto Raptors. 1013 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: They're like, oh jeez, got yeah. 1014 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, still he doesn't have any official equity, but he 1015 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 4: certainly owns those franchises. 1016 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: Living rent free exactly. 1017 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 8: Lebrontoe. Yeah, yeah, no, you are right. 1018 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 3: This is news to me though, like this is just 1019 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 3: like him coming out, especially like clarifying to uh to 1020 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 3: b and the Athletic like that, like, yeah, I'm gonna 1021 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: be owning a franchise like an NBA franchise. So this 1022 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: is just just a start here for me and Madrick Carter, 1023 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: and I believe him if he says it, then yeah, 1024 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, he says, what, I'm sticking around to play 1025 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 3: with my son in the NBA basically on record, right, 1026 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: he's said that. Yeah, so I'll do that and then 1027 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 3: probably you'll play, you know, for a year or two 1028 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: with him, Brownie Jr. And then hang it up, I guess, 1029 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 3: and get into owning a team, and it'll just be 1030 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: figuring out, Yeah, what team he's gonna buy. It will 1031 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: be the craziest team for Lebron doo. And I mean 1032 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 3: it's pretty weird when you think that MJ has the Hornets. 1033 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, well then that's the thing, Like it's going to 1034 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: have to be one of those smaller franchis because you know, 1035 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 4: like I don't think the Bulls he won't be able 1036 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 4: to buy them. I mean, so who's available. 1037 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 7: It's got to be the Kings, right. 1038 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 8: Ah, very good? 1039 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 3: JD Yes, Yeah, the Wolves? Right, I guess the Minnesota 1040 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: timber Wolves, aren't they You know, wasn't Garnett. 1041 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: All pissed off that? 1042 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it wasn't taken seriously in their ownership group 1043 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 3: trying to get in there. Yeah we'll see all right. 1044 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: I saw yeah people saying, well the Wolves are up 1045 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: for sale. Just it's totally true, he could buy them, 1046 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: get get involved there, get Kevin Garnett in on it. 1047 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: But are they going to be sale for four years? Yeah, 1048 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 2: exactly when Lebron will be playing with his son. I 1049 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 2: just you know, when you say it like that, Lebron's 1050 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 2: going to own a team and he's going to play 1051 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: former years, He's going to become the all time leading scorer, 1052 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: and he's going to wait to play with his son. 1053 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 2: I mean the least likely thing in that equation which 1054 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: would happen is his son getting to the NBA. I mean, 1055 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: how much pressure on that kid? Yeah, but you know 1056 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: he's Lebron's kid, so I'm sure he can deal. 1057 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go say Lebron was under pressure like when 1058 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 3: he was like fifteen, sixteen years old, turned out okay 1059 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: for him. Maybe they thrive under those conditions. Final headline, JD. 1060 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 3: I'm coming to you first because this one was fantastic. Variety. Yes, 1061 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 3: variety is where we go to get our basketball news, right, 1062 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 3: Adrian Brody cast as pat Riley in HBO's nineteen eighties 1063 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 3: Lakers series. 1064 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: Is this news, JDI? 1065 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 6: Well, yes, finally there's some important news on this show. 1066 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 6: I have perked up when I saw this in the doc. Yeah, 1067 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 6: of course it's news. It's interesting news because it's an 1068 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 6: interesting choice. I had a little squizze at Brody's IMDb 1069 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 6: page and I realized. 1070 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 7: Oh, wow, I haven't seen I haven't seen a ton 1071 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 7: of what he's been in. 1072 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I've seen a lot, but I didn't realize 1073 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 6: just how much he's been in. But what I have 1074 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 6: seen him in, he's always great, always one of the 1075 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 6: most likable people on screen. But I find it to 1076 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 6: be a bit of a weird casting choice, just because 1077 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 6: he sort of brings like a quiet vulnerability to all 1078 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 6: of his roles, you know, and I do not think 1079 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 6: of pat Riley as a quiet to vulnerable guy, you know. 1080 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 6: Like I mean, with all due respect to Rolando Blackman, 1081 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 6: pat Riley is the paragon of confidence, right, I mean, 1082 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 6: like yep, So, I mean it's it would be hard. 1083 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 6: It's hard for me to imagine Adrian Brody standing in 1084 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 6: front of a parade, guarantee being a second, a repeat, 1085 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 6: a championship, you know what I mean. Like, but you know, 1086 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 6: maybe he'll bring some humanity to uh to pat Riley, 1087 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 6: because I'm not that familiar with pat Riley. But every 1088 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 6: time I see him. He's just the he's just the 1089 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,799 Speaker 6: ultimate cool dude, slick back hair, he's just just the 1090 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 6: you know, he's the quintessential champion. So but you know what, 1091 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 6: I think that they actually buried the lead of this 1092 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 6: story because Adam McKay is involved in this. He I 1093 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 6: think he's directing the pilot and he's he's he's the 1094 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 6: executive producer or what there's like several executive producers. But 1095 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,720 Speaker 6: that guy, since twenty fifteen has just been batting a thousand. 1096 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 6: I mean, he's famous for you know, he's he's a 1097 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 6: Will Ferrell's partner and in his their production comedy. But 1098 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 6: he's he's done like Anchorman, the other Guy's step Brothers. 1099 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 7: Those are classic comedies. 1100 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 6: But really, like The Big Short is such an awesome 1101 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 6: movie Vice, which I loved, And he's executive producer and 1102 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 6: I think he's directed one of the episodes of Succession 1103 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 6: as like the best show on television right now. 1104 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 7: So this is going to be good. 1105 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 6: It's I'm I'm actually legit excited for this, you know, 1106 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 6: and I'm not that into basketball, but I think you know, 1107 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 6: I'm not that into finance either, But I loved The 1108 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 6: Big Short, so. 1109 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, this is news. I'm pumped. I'm super pumped 1110 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 7: for this. 1111 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 3: I was joking on Twitter yesterday a lead that I 1112 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: can't wait for the Magic Johnson tweet where he lists 1113 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 3: his favorite Adrian Brody performances, his favorite movies, all fifteen 1114 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 3: or sixteen of them. He just takes us through a 1115 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 3: list in no particular order. But what do you think, 1116 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 3: Lea this I had one. 1117 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 4: Do you remember Andy Gassi's character and Oceans eleven the hotel, 1118 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 4: casino or a. I think that is what they need 1119 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 4: for this role. 1120 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 8: I think, yeah. 1121 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 4: I think because he had the slick back hair, he 1122 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 4: had that sort of quiet confidence about him. But Andy Gussier, 1123 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 4: I guess he's uh, he's pretty old. 1124 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, we need a young. 1125 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah Riley, Yeah yeah, But that's the sort of 1126 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 4: character I think they would try to create for pat Riley, 1127 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 4: just that like, you know, no one messes with that guy. 1128 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 4: He's in complete control. And you know that that was 1129 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 4: Andy Garcier I thought was perfect in that position as 1130 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 4: the as the casino boss owner or casino owner, wasn't he? 1131 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 8: I guess? 1132 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, tass Any thoughts to this one? 1133 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 2: Succession is still the best show on TV j D too. 1134 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 6: Well, you know, it hasn't been on and over a year, 1135 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 6: but it's the it's my favorite show in the last 1136 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, two years or whatever. 1137 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 2: Okay, for sure, all right, that's all I need to know. 1138 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I got an update because we're only talking 1139 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: about actors and sort of basketball. Our friend Joe Mandy 1140 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: he texted me yesterday because we were talking about Jason 1141 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 3: Sidaikis and whether or not he's like actually good at 1142 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: basketball or how good he you know, could Lee take him? 1143 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 2: Well? 1144 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 3: Joe Mandy he texted me, he said, haven't played with 1145 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 3: Sadeikis myself, but he's apparently very good and he played 1146 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 3: au ball. Wow, so you know, yeah, got to a 1147 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 3: somewhat of a higher level there, or a high level 1148 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: we were showing obviously news clippings. I guess it was 1149 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 3: task right on yesterday's show. So sudakaous Lee, I think 1150 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 3: I'd be going with him over you. 1151 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, how old is he? Do we know? Do we decide? 1152 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 3: I don't know? 1153 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 4: I know, Well, hey, fad Joe knows him, then text 1154 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 4: him back and see if Sadeikas is up for a 1155 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 4: little while on sure. 1156 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll make that happen for sure. 1157 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 3: Done do it for charity. 1158 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 8: I love it exactly. 1159 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's hear from you guys. Were those 1160 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 3: three headlines and newsworthy? They were to us? Damn it. 1161 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 3: We just talked about him here on no dunks. But 1162 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 3: let us know in the stream team, let us know 1163 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 3: what's comments. Okay, we still have tweeted the night and 1164 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: we'll obviously get to pick them, but tasks. Talk to 1165 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 3: me about your glasses. 1166 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: Man. 1167 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: Time for tweet of the night. 1168 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: Tweet O the night. 1169 00:51:53,840 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 3: Wow, got a great one here from last night, was 1170 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 3: making the rounds in the NBA twitter sphere. It's from 1171 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 3: at Mike vorkanoff from the Athletic. He tweeted this photo 1172 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 3: with the caption, damn Monty McCutcheon went all in on 1173 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: his quarantine beard and yes this is a photo of 1174 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 3: former NBA official and obviously still working with the league, 1175 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 3: Monty McCutcheon. Wow, what a beard, What a look. I mean, 1176 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if those are Felix grays, but those 1177 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 3: are incredible glasses. And I saw the ringer NBA asking 1178 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 3: what does it look like he does for a living, 1179 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 3: because it sure doesn't look like he might be like 1180 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: the senior vice president of like officiating there in the NBA. 1181 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: Great answers. I just wanted to run through a couple. 1182 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 3: Nick Terry, he tweeted, he's a train engineer, but three 1183 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 3: hundred years in the future in a dystopian landscape. Babe, Nick, 1184 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 3: He tweeted, he's the guy who offers you a choice 1185 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 3: of a craft beer or whiskey when you walk into 1186 00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 3: a hipster barber shop. This one's for people with kids 1187 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: out there. Pedro said he causes problems. 1188 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: For the Paw Patrol. 1189 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: M He does look like sort of maybe like a 1190 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 3: little villain there in a kid's cartoon. Orange and Blue 1191 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 3: said he makes porn and Willie Wonka's chocolate factory, and 1192 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: finally a couple of people. Actually I saw Alex and 1193 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 3: Michael k It looks like he makes the magic happen 1194 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 3: or uh more on the nose, produces No Dunks podcasts. Yes, 1195 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 3: has the JD like beer. Different glasses of course, but 1196 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 3: what a look. 1197 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 7: Man, He's a handsome devil. 1198 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 2: Good stuff. 1199 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 1200 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta get a pair of those. What are 1201 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 6: the hopefully they're Felix Grays, because. 1202 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 3: Those are the some of the thickest framed glasses I've 1203 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: ever seen. 1204 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: It looks like I could run track on those. 1205 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 8: They're incredible. 1206 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: What mixed. 1207 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 3: So thanks to again at Mike working Off forgetting that started, 1208 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 3: and at Ringer at the Ringer NBA for asking that 1209 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 3: fun question and all the funny answers. I was laughing 1210 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 3: to myself there reading through some of those. Okay, pick 1211 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 3: them results from last night and pick them results brought 1212 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 3: to you by Bett MGM. It was the Jazz Celtics game. 1213 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 3: Jazz were favored by four and a half. Three of 1214 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,919 Speaker 3: us took Utah, three of us get a w task 1215 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 3: seven and two for the month of March. I'm five 1216 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 3: and four back to over five hundred. Loving that. Trey 1217 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 3: Kirby by way of JD another victory from JD's two 1218 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 3: and zero filling in for TK. 1219 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: So Trey is six and three. It's really JD at 1220 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: this point, and Lee he swerved. 1221 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1222 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: I hope I didn't put that on you ly, I 1223 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: sort of I felt like I was force. 1224 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 3: You to swear a little. 1225 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fine, that's fine, but it was. 1226 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny because I think Jayleen Brown sort 1227 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,479 Speaker 4: of drove in when you know, it's like that sort 1228 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 4: of ump upt on that last play. Why are you 1229 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 4: driving inside man two to three? I think they still 1230 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 4: would have covered anyway. I think it was falling off 1231 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 4: the line. But uh, you just I want to see 1232 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 4: you because because it's funny when you are trailing and 1233 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,240 Speaker 4: you know in the game you don't care about the result. 1234 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 4: You just want to see them hit those shots and 1235 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 4: get that cover. And of course, come on, man, hit 1236 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 4: that three anyway was wouldn't have mounted. 1237 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. 1238 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 3: So Lee is in last place here now, two games 1239 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 3: back from me Lee's three and six. So what's tonight's game? There, tasks. 1240 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: We got the Clippers and the MAVs in a rematch 1241 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: of a couple nights ago. The Clippers went into Dallas, 1242 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 2: took care of business, switched it up, put Marcus Morrison 1243 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 2: starting lineup for for Nicolo bit two. Things worked out well. 1244 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 2: They were a little feisty and they won. So rematch 1245 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: Dallas at home getting two and a half points, Clippers 1246 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: favored by two and a half, have to win by 1247 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 2: three or more. JD. What do you got You're gonna 1248 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 2: go three for three for Trey or what? Hey? 1249 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 6: Well, you know it's Saint Patrick's Day. So I'm feeling lucky. 1250 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 6: I got an offer in on a house. I'm hoping 1251 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 6: that comes through. 1252 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 7: But uh, I don't know. 1253 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 6: I uh, this is has nothing to do with anything. 1254 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 6: I skates. You tweeted a picture of Dirk Nabitskia yesterday. 1255 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 6: I think, yes, that's right, yeah, and I was just like, oh, yeah, Dirk. 1256 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 6: I missed Dirk. So Dallas. I'm taking Dallas because you know, 1257 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 6: Dirk was always so nice to us and he's just 1258 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 6: a great guy. 1259 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 3: So's Dallas. 1260 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1261 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 3: I tweeted that photo of dirkfe like looking like that 1262 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: because there was a pack drop last night on Top Shot, 1263 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 3: but there was a lot of people trying to get 1264 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 3: not a lot of packs, and I pulled like number 1265 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 3: like one hundred and forty thousand. I didn't have much 1266 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 3: of a chance last night. It was not lucky. So 1267 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 3: that's why I went with that dirt one hundred. 1268 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: And forty thousand reverse fourteen at the beginning of that's 1269 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 2: forty one. That's what Dirk wore on his jersey. My goodness, 1270 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 2: it was meant to be. 1271 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: So you're taking Dallas to cover? Yeah, man, man, man, 1272 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't like. 1273 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 3: Picking against uh, against JD right now. So I'm not 1274 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna ride the hot streak. I'll go 1275 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,879 Speaker 3: Dallas too, even though the Clippers won the last game. 1276 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: Like you said, Tess, where do you go. 1277 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 2: After D's reasoning, I'm riding that. 1278 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is for the taking, I'm telling you. 1279 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 4: But but I'm like, I'm sitting here just gone. I 1280 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 4: think the other guys. Someone's taking the Clippers. I'm going 1281 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 4: to take the Maps. 1282 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 9: But now it's like, look like Pat, I hate it 1283 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 9: because I want to. 1284 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 8: I want to take the Maps. I think they do 1285 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 8: cover it not. 1286 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 3: I think that was you know lately. You know again, 1287 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 3: I felt bad I did. I felt like I pressured 1288 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 3: you into that Celtic picture. If you want to take 1289 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: the Mavericks, go ahead, and I'll take the Clippers. 1290 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 8: Because the Clippers, I just don't know if I trust them. 1291 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 8: I don't know if I trust them. They have given you. 1292 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm giving you the Mavericks. 1293 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,919 Speaker 8: Jesus, Uh, all. 1294 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 4: Right, I'll take him because I was going to take 1295 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 4: the Mavericks. 1296 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 3: I just know. 1297 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: I will take the Clippers. 1298 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 3: So I'm the only one taking the La Clippers with 1299 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 3: two and a half, so they got to win by 1300 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: three more. Everybody else has the matter. 1301 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 8: Because I was like, I sort of wanted to see 1302 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 8: what guys, and then you went. 1303 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I listen. 1304 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 8: You know what, there's still enough times. So if you 1305 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 8: want to take the Madge, I don't care if we do, 1306 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 8: we don't do it. 1307 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't want. 1308 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 3: I hate when we all have this, So I'm taking 1309 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 3: the Clippers the Mavericks. Oh this will be good. I 1310 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 3: was already watching this game, but now we really lucked it. Okay, 1311 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 3: that's it for us here for the daily show. 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Okay, 1330 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm not ready to go to a website and check 1331 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: quite yet. 1332 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I won't put that pressure on you to fire 1333 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 3: up another tab. 1334 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:42,959 Speaker 1: All right, Clipper. 1335 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 8: Roads, you heard it here first, have a great time, 1336 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 8: turn up, Love you guys. 1337 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 7: Awesome. 1338 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 2: You got to see this, Guyspathletic dot com slash no 1339 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 2: dunks probably a dollar a month. Haven't gone yet, but 1340 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's a dollar a month. What do you 1341 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 2: guys think? Do you guys think? Let's just wait? Do 1342 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 2: we have fifteen seconds? 1343 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 3: Now? 1344 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 2: I gotta go to a browser where I'm not signed in? 1345 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 7: Yeah that's the oh yeah, yeah. 1346 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 2: So but no problem, I'm not lugged in. It's so far, 1347 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 2: no problem. It hasn't been updated. Oh come on, come 1348 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,959 Speaker 2: on jesus, all. 1349 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Right, we'll get on it by buch step and we 1350 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 3: will have that updated. Everyone. Just hold tight, embrace the day. 1351 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 2: People. 1352 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 9: You could stay. 1353 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 6: Every day. 1354 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I'll be happy every minute. It's been so long that 1355 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,959 Speaker 2: your wanna. 1356 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 9: Way, It's happened already. 1357 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be grevy