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Speaker 1: Here's Brian No, former Penn State All American, Rich Wrenberger

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Speaker 1: and pix Wive's lead Betty analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning, Happy Saturday to you. You know, I

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Speaker 4: just want to say, guys, I hope that we have

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Speaker 4: games today that rival the late game last night. If

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Speaker 4: we can just get double overtime Wazoo against San Jose State,

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Speaker 4: just a steady diet of that today, we'll be doing

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Speaker 4: just fine.

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Speaker 3: That'd be okay by me.

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Speaker 5: And boy, what a consequential game in terms of the

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Speaker 5: new PAC twelve, which is about to be replaced by

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Speaker 5: the even newer PAC twelve coming up, as four Mountain

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Speaker 5: West teams have just been named, as I guess PAC

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Speaker 5: twelve entrants where we were waiting for more teams to

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Speaker 5: enter that conference before official kickoff in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: In the meanwhile, it's gonna be Wazoo and the Oregon

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Speaker 5: State Beavers playing a Mountwest schedule, and so interesting, interesting

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Speaker 5: turn of events seeing all of a sudden the Mount

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Speaker 5: West being tested against you know, I guess you could

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Speaker 5: call it the lesser Thans of the PAC twelve and

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Speaker 5: hanging tough.

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Speaker 3: That was a heck of a ballgame last night, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: Like a phoenix rising from the ashes. The PAC twelve

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Speaker 6: after dark is reborn again. I mean, there's no other

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Speaker 6: way to explain it.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember the Incarnate word game we had on

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Speaker 6: a Friday? Yes, yes, that was like sixty five sixty

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Speaker 6: two is an FCS playoff game.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 6: I think this game was better than that. So John

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Speaker 6: Matteer from Washington State and I was on Washington last week.

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Speaker 6: Terrible week by me Ozher and three you guys. I'll

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Speaker 6: tell you what, man, you guys, this might be your year.

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Speaker 6: You guys me in the rapid fire standings. John Matteer,

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Speaker 6: Washington State is a ballplayer. He is like the Brett

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Speaker 6: Farv of the Pac twelve. He is fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be an interesting little team there at Wazoo

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Speaker 6: going forward, really interesting team.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget that incarnate word game where I'm live

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Speaker 4: betting the over and I can't even remember. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: am I really taking over ninety two and a half

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Speaker 4: or whatever?

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Speaker 3: It was? Correct?

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Speaker 4: You were yes each time if it was like correct, correct, correct,

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Speaker 4: Just keep pounding the over.

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Speaker 4: So we've got three ranked versus ranked games today, and

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Speaker 4: I want us to rank the ranked versus ranked games. Okay,

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Speaker 4: in terms of what you're most interested in. Of course,

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Speaker 4: We've got Tennessee against Oklahoma. We've got Utah against Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 4: We've got USC against Michigan. So Rich, we'll start with you.

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Speaker 4: If you rank those three games just in terms of

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Speaker 4: your personal interest level, What does your list look like?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to say, Okay, this is slightly selfish,

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Speaker 5: but I'll explain.

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Speaker 3: I'll explain myself.

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Speaker 5: Nebraska against the Fighting and ALIONI is of particular interest

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Speaker 5: because you've got you've got the ALIGNI facing off against

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Speaker 5: Penn State in a week and so obviously that tugs

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Speaker 3: Heartstrings a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But beyond that, I like this matchup because of who

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Speaker 5: the new head coaches with the Huskers. I like the

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Speaker 5: fact that the corn Huskers have made the decision to

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Speaker 5: hire Matt Ruhle sort of feels like a rejuvenation of

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Speaker 3: And Rayola, their quarterback, is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 5: He's like a carbon copy in almost every single way

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Speaker 6: I think USC Michigan is the most intriguing to me,

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma is not good, and I think there will be

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Speaker 6: I think Oklahoma will get exposed to it. I think USC

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Speaker 6: Michigan is because the Utah game, we just don't know

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Speaker 6: what the Cam Rising status is. I think that's the

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Speaker 6: key with Utah. If Cam Rising plays for Utah and

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Speaker 6: I feel like Kyle Whittingham is like one of the

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Speaker 6: grifters on the strip with three kart Maani, like we

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Speaker 6: don't know and we've never known. With him, It's like

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Speaker 6: it's last minute he might pull him, he could start him.

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Speaker 6: So I would say USC Michigan because if USC goes

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Speaker 6: If USC goes into ann Arbor today and really puts

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Speaker 6: you know they when they've managed up, they haven't looked great,

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Speaker 6: I think we can start to take USC very seriously.

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Speaker 6: I think USC is a very interesting team coming off

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Speaker 6: the buy. Their defense is playing infinitely better, like almost

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Speaker 6: to the point of I think their defense might actually

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Speaker 6: which is crazy to be crazy to think that from

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Speaker 6: where we were last year. But this is a top

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Speaker 6: ten rushing defense, top twenty passing defense so far, and

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Speaker 6: they faced a couple of good offenses. So the coaching

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Speaker 6: for USC's defense is really what I've noticed is better

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Speaker 6: that is the most intriguing team because if USC can,

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Speaker 6: which you know, with their quarterback situation, you expect them to.

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Speaker 6: They're a very intriguing team going forward in the big Time.

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Speaker 4: I would rank the rank versus ranked like this. I

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Speaker 4: would put Tennessee and Oklahoma at the top. You know

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Speaker 4: we're on the same page here, and I think Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: is total fugazy. Yeah, hopefully you close your ears for

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Speaker 4: a second. Our trusted producer Bo Benson has a soft

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Speaker 4: spot in his heart for the Sooners, but I think

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Speaker 4: they're complete frauds. I don't see them winning more than

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be hard to get to eight wins. It

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Speaker 4: that high flying offense and what do we call a

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Speaker 4: their defense, even though they've played cream pups, has been spectacular.

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Speaker 4: I want to see them go up against Oklahoma today.

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Speaker 4: I'm most looking forward to that. I would put USC

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Speaker 4: see this Michigan offense. You get a new starting quarterback

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Speaker 4: and Alex Orgy, what does that look like against USC

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Speaker 8: Stop the run to save their lives last season?

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Speaker 4: They've been better this season, but Michigan is going to

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Speaker 4: be heavily committed to the running game today. It's gonna

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Speaker 4: be like the Green Bay Packers with Malik Willis last week.

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Speaker 4: You know they're just gonna run it and run it

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Speaker 4: and run it and last on the list. And sorry

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Speaker 4: to Big Fox. You know it's a Fox gip. I

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Speaker 4: gotta put Utah in Oklahoma state third. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking forward to this, but Jared you said it.

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Speaker 8: It's the Cam Rising soap opera, no idea. I just

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Speaker 8: want off the roller coaster. You ever ride one of

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Speaker 8: those fair ride.

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Speaker 4: I remember as a little kid and it just went

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Speaker 4: thought he might lose me. I might go home and

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Speaker 4: be like sor right less be today.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's what I feel like with the Cam Rising thing,

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Speaker 4: where it's this He's gonna play and it's like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 4: now he's probably not gonna play.

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Speaker 8: What that's not good. Now he's gonna play.

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, I'm gonna back Utah, Now it's probably not

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Speaker 4: gonna play it all. You're like, what is happening? I

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Speaker 4: just went out of this whole experience. And it's like

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Speaker 4: seeing a concert if you go and see the Stones

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Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, it was amazing, and your friend's like,

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Speaker 4: so everybody was there?

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Speaker 8: Right, No, No, Mick Jagger, some other guy was there.

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Speaker 8: That's how I feel with Cam Rising here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, get back to this Michigan USC game.

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Speaker 5: I really think that what Lincoln Riley has meant to

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Speaker 5: some of the storylines that we have gravitated toward in

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Speaker 5: couple of years. Lincoln Riley has really tugged at the

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Speaker 5: good or bad. It's high flying offense, it's terrible defense.

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Speaker 5: Could you see is there any chance this season is

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Speaker 5: USC Trojans fix some of the problems that have haunted

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Speaker 5: don't play defense, you know what I mean? Like, are

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Speaker 5: we gonna see a year where finally the buck stops

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Speaker 5: and we see USC starting starting to play some defense

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Speaker 5: like they did in the early two thousands, where you

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Speaker 3: Owning the middle of the football field.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they have the personnel, but again, I

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Speaker 6: At least that's what I've analyzed so far this season.

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Speaker 3: I think the.

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Speaker 6: Bigger question, if you want to touch more on that

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Speaker 6: USC Michigan game. I think the more intriguing question to

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Speaker 6: me is is Miller Moss because he's facing a defense

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Speaker 6: today in Michigan that's basically like the relief pitcher that

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Speaker 7: The end of the game.

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Speaker 6: You know he's throwing you the heat. Wink Martindale's bringing

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Speaker 6: the heat. He's always brought the heat. That's his mo

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Speaker 6: That's why he's not in the NFL anymore. He has

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Speaker 6: one pitch blitz fastball, sixty blitz right against Fresno, fifty

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Speaker 6: Can you adjust? That would be the way the path

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, you caught my tension rich when

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that you brought that name up because we've

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Speaker 3: That's really tough. Now, once you get.

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Speaker 5: Those things I just mentioned, But it isn't easy defensively.

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Speaker 3: It's a fascinating matchup today.

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Speaker 5: Because you could argue that these are two schools that

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Speaker 3: Or they could transition and do something different.

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Speaker 5: Maybe all of a sudden, USC starts looking like more

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Speaker 6: Sounds a lot like Big ten football to me. Here's

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Speaker 6: USC's next six games. You ready for it? Let's hear Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota,

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Speaker 6: The Trojans are coming. I mean, that's what we are.

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Speaker 4: at Colorado And before we get into this matchup, a

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Speaker 4: back I hear the harp, we go all the way

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Speaker 4: back to last week, huh. And we had Shador Sanders

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Speaker 6: That's happened to me many times.

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Speaker 7: It hurts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go, That's what Shador did. And I'm curious

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Speaker 3: No deal?

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Speaker 4: I would go little deal on you here, and I'll

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Speaker 8: Bush league by Shaduur Sanders.

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Speaker 4: The backdrop is that the Colorado State quarterback is a

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Speaker 8: That was the long and short of it.

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Speaker 4: He also said, I'm in college to play football. My

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Speaker 4: He said a few things where I could see Shaduur

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the game, you're offered a

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Speaker 8: I thought about the NBA playoffs for a second.

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Speaker 4: You know me, I love the NBA, but this happens

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Speaker 8: I just thought it was a terrible look by Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Look, just to speak.

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Speaker 5: About Colorado as a whole, it is what everybody feared

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Speaker 3: Things have changed, and in many cases for the better.

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Speaker 6: and like things are not completely terrible. It's not apocalypse,

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Speaker 6: but it's not right. It's not our future. It's kind

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Speaker 6: of what Colorado feels like. I'm not like, I'm not

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Speaker 6: like over the moon crazy over this Brian, Like, it's

443
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Speaker 6: I'm not losing sleep. It's just it's just immature. It's

444
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Speaker 6: just a maturity. And like, there's two things that come

445
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Speaker 6: to mind. The first thing that comes to mind the

446
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Speaker 6: right way that games and in this case, playoff series end,

447
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Speaker 6: which is the NHL Playoffs. Everyone gets in line and

448
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 6: they shake the hand these guys just went to war

449
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Speaker 6: for a seven game series. They get in line, they

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Speaker 6: shake each other's hand. It is tradition. It is sportsmanship

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Speaker 6: that was kind of lost, whether or not the pregame stuff.

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Speaker 6: And you think those hockey guys aren't saying stuff to

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Speaker 6: each other during the series before the series locker room

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Speaker 6: bulletin more material. They still go and shake each other's

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Speaker 6: hands at the end. The second part of the thing

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Speaker 6: that would bother me if I was someone trying to

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Speaker 6: get the most out of Shador, if I was a

458
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Speaker 6: mentor to him or a coach. It's all a job interview.

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Speaker 6: Everything you're doing now. And I've never been a player

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Speaker 6: on a field. I've never had trash talk to me.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how deep it really goes. I can't

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Speaker 6: speak to that angle, but I can speak to being

463
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Speaker 6: a professional. It's a job interview. You are on the

464
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Speaker 6: field right now to prepare for the NFL. The NFL

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Speaker 6: scouts are watching. What do they want to see a

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Speaker 6: quarterback display? What behavior? Do they want the quarterback to

467
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Speaker 6: be the most immature person on the field, running around, screaming,

468
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Speaker 6: saying things to players, not shaking hands after the game,

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Speaker 6: or do they want the quarterback to be an extension

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Speaker 6: of the coach, a CEO on the field. Now, maybe

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Speaker 6: that works for Dion, but what's Chaudor's next coach gonna want?

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Speaker 6: What's the next GM gonna want? What if you played

473
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Speaker 6: for a Bill Belichick? What would you do if that

474
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Speaker 6: was your coach and you did that after the game?

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Speaker 6: I'm sure Rich could speak to that. So that's where

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Speaker 6: I just like, I just I can't grasp it. Like

477
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Speaker 6: because as a professional, everything I do on this show

478
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Speaker 6: is to graduate and grow and be a professional. I mean,

479
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Speaker 6: I can't imagine not shaking, So I can't imagine doing

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Speaker 6: that after a game because of my ego, because of

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Speaker 6: my insecurity. So I don't think Schudor just needs to

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Speaker 6: grow up and the whole Colorado program needs to just

483
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Speaker 6: grow up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's fair and listen.

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Speaker 4: This is the audio and we'll move on because you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a big story from last week and I think

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Speaker 4: it's a story heading into today against Baylors.

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Speaker 8: Did the Baylor quarterbacks say anything this way? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This is Braden Fowler Nicolosi, the Colorado State quarterback. This

490
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Speaker 4: is what he had to say that led to Shador

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Speaker 4: Sanders not wanting to shake this guy's hand.

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Speaker 7: Goes to show that.

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Speaker 9: The hype, the media train all that it only gets

494
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Speaker 9: you so far. At the end of the day, you

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Speaker 9: have to line up eleven guys against our eleven guys

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Speaker 9: and we'll find out who wants it more and we'll

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Speaker 9: see how far Instagram followers gets them.

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Speaker 4: Right, Like that to me is not I'm not shaking

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Speaker 4: your hand. Not a great comment by him either. I know, sure, no,

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Speaker 4: right right, but that's over. It's over, yun. Let me

501
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Speaker 4: do this on the other side because we want to

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Speaker 4: work Dan Byer in here. I do have something to

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Speaker 4: say that drives me crazy about Colorado critics. Okay, like Colorado,

504
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Speaker 4: we voiced our displeasure with Shador. I thought it was

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Speaker 4: just an immature move, not shaking hands. It's just not

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Speaker 4: grown up. It's not a man thing to do what

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Speaker 4: man says.

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Speaker 8: Nope, nope, nope.

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Speaker 4: I didn't like what you said about Instagram followers not.

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Speaker 8: Shaking your Come on, dude, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 4: But I do have something to say in Colorado's benefit.

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Speaker 4: In just a minute, first of Dan bayer O guy,

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Speaker 4: We're praised with Dan Buyer's press is today very nice.

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Speaker 7: What's going on then, morning, fellas.

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Speaker 10: You know that Colorado team is the third part of

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Speaker 10: the triple header that you're gonna see on Fox later

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Speaker 10: today with that showdown against Baylor. It all starts with

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Speaker 10: Marshall and Ohio State coming up at noon Eastern times,

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Speaker 10: sandwiched in between another good one and the Big twelve

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Speaker 10: number twelve, Utah at number thirteen Oklahoma State four o'clock

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Speaker 10: Eastern time. Kick Cowboys in one point favoriteccording to bet MGM.

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Speaker 7: In that contest. Guys, we got some NFL news coming in.

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Speaker 10: ESPN is reporting that the Steelers are going to be

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Speaker 10: without first round pick right tackle Troy Fatandu for a

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Speaker 10: while out it definitely after suffering a knee injury and

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Speaker 10: yesterday's practice, Steelers have that two and zero battle with

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Speaker 10: fellow two and zero LA. Chargers come into town on Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Bengals on Monday night are home to the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 10: Wide receiver t Higgins says he'll make his season debut

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Speaker 10: for Cincinnati after getting in a limited practice the last

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Speaker 10: two days. A final injury report due for the Bengals today,

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Speaker 10: with Higgins hopes to return from his amstring injury on

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Speaker 10: Monday night. If you missed it, sho heyo Tani homerd

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Speaker 10: six to four, while the Phillies clinch day postseason birth.

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Speaker 8: To you, Thank you, Dan.

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Speaker 8: Here's the one thing.

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Speaker 4: That I would say in Colorado's defense, and this has

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Speaker 4: been something that started last year with Dan Lanning. Remember

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Speaker 4: the Oregon head coach where in the locker room, he's like,

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00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: they're fighting for clicks, we're fighting for wins. And this

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00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: Colorado State quarterback basically saying, hey, let's see how much

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Speaker 4: Instagram followers helps them win today. I'm guessing it does.

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Speaker 4: Like that sort of think. What drives me crazy is

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Speaker 4: this idea that Colorado just cares about social media and

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Speaker 4: Twitter followers.

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Speaker 8: And they don't care about winning. That is so stupid.

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Speaker 8: Why can't you care about both?

557
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Speaker 4: Why is it an automatic in so many people's minds

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Speaker 4: that because Colorado you know, promotes themselves quite a bit

559
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Speaker 4: on social media, that they don't really care. Does shoulder

560
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: shrug if we win the game? But hey, how many

561
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: ig followers did we pick up? Come on, like, why

562
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Speaker 4: can't it be both where you've got a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a different approach to things, you're self promoting the

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Speaker 4: program and yourselves. Why does that automatically equal? Oh, they

565
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Speaker 4: don't care about winning. That's just dumb. You think they're

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Speaker 4: just doing this for the hell of it and they

567
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Speaker 4: just want as much cash or Instagram followers. I can

568
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Speaker 4: feel people nodding like, yeah, yeah, Brian, I think that's

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Speaker 4: exactly what they're in it for. It's not they're in

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Speaker 4: it to win. Also, I just hate when people bring

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Speaker 4: that up, as if all they care about is everything

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Speaker 4: but winning.

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Speaker 8: That's just not true.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, Yeah, it is. It is fair that people

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Speaker 3: feel that way.

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Speaker 5: It's also fair that you're defending Colorado and saying that

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Speaker 5: they do care about winning, because I tend to agree

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Speaker 5: with you more than I agree with the opposite opinion. Look,

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people who are going to

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Speaker 5: look at Deon sanders Is tactics as a head coach

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Speaker 5: and say it's all about this attention economy. He's not

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Speaker 5: going to be at the Colorado Buffalo's program for long.

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Speaker 5: There's an expiration date. It's tied to his kid being quarterback.

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Speaker 5: He's going to move on from there at some point soon.

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Speaker 5: How soon, we don't know. But there's people who say

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Speaker 5: that and it's a stepping stool for him in his

587
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Speaker 5: career and for his son as well. That may be true,

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Speaker 5: But I would say this, Deon Sanders would probably sacrifice

589
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Speaker 5: a lot of the attention and a lot of the

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Speaker 5: followers on social media for wins because it would be

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Speaker 5: better for him, it would be better for his son,

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Speaker 5: it would be better for the amplitude and the importance

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Speaker 5: of his name on the game. So I completely disagree

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Speaker 5: with people who say it's not about winning.

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Speaker 3: It's always about winning.

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Speaker 5: And Deon Sanders some of the spin that he's had

597
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Speaker 5: to spit out to the public along the way, I'm

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Speaker 5: sure he wishes he doesn't have to spin it. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure he wishes that he could defend the playoff the field,

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Speaker 5: which has been regrettable at times because they can't run

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Speaker 5: the football, they can't protect his son in the in

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Speaker 5: the in the pass rush game. It's been pretty hellacious

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Speaker 5: upfront on the offensive line and even his son. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you want to talk about immaturity, he's after that

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Speaker 5: Nebraska loss.

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Speaker 3: He even called out his offensive line for a portion

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 5: So look, getting back to the point you just made, though,

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's about clicks. I do think it's

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Speaker 5: about wins for Colorado and and focusing on the matchup

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Speaker 5: they have ahead of them. I mean, this could be

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Speaker 5: another one of those games where it's like, Hey, throw

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Speaker 5: the defense out the door and take the over, because

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Speaker 5: I don't know if Baylor is a great offense, but

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Speaker 5: I know against a poor Colorado defense, they'll look better.

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Speaker 5: And I don't I don't think should or is a

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Speaker 5: bad quarterback or that that or I should say. I

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Speaker 5: don't think that they have bad running backs in Colorado,

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Speaker 5: but they can't establish a run game without run lanes,

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Speaker 5: so they're gonna have to throw the football and the

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Speaker 5: scoreboard is gonna light up, you know.

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Speaker 6: Accordingly, Yeah, let's I think the game is hopefully we'll

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Speaker 6: be front and center focused and not any of the

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Speaker 6: outside stuff. I think the more we go along with

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Speaker 6: the season, and you know, when we kind of figure

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00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 6: out what Colorado is, we'll have a lot more conversations

627
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Speaker 6: about the next step for Shador. And it wasn't his

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Speaker 6: finest moment.

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Speaker 3: He's a kid.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure if he had to go back and do

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Speaker 6: it again, maybe not, I don't know, he probably would

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Speaker 6: have probably would have shook his hand. Just shake the

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Speaker 6: guy's hands and move on with your life. This numbers

634
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 6: kind of bounced around a little bit. Baylor opened as

635
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Speaker 6: a favorite and Colorado took some money. And now I

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Speaker 6: see this morning, Baylor's taking a little bit of money.

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Speaker 6: It hasn't really, you know, decided which way we want

638
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Speaker 6: to fall here. I think the question with Baylor is

639
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Speaker 6: the quarterback position. Daikwon Finn. The Toledo transfers looked really bad.

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Speaker 6: Fifty three and a half completion percentage that that's not

641
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Speaker 6: good college football. He's a little banged up. It looks

642
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Speaker 6: like it's gonna be Sawyer Robertson today for Baylor, who's

643
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 6: been more efficient, a little bit less athletic, but more

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Speaker 6: efficient throwing it. I think the thing that intrigues me

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Speaker 6: is you get Dave A. Arranda, who is pound for pound,

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Speaker 6: maybe one of the better defensive coaches we have in

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Speaker 6: this country against a Colorado offense that likes to spread

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Speaker 6: it out, and how does that match up? Like, can

649
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Speaker 6: can Dave Randa push the right buttons to keep your

650
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Speaker 6: door buttoned up in the pocket? That's the question for

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Speaker 6: me chess match wise. And then on the other side,

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Speaker 6: if Baylor can play keep away? Right you're on the road,

653
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Speaker 6: it's altitude, it's a difficult environment. It's a night game

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Speaker 6: in Boulders, So you got some elements there that I

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Speaker 6: think are gonna be a struggle for this Baylor offense

656
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Speaker 6: to overcome. But can Dave Arranda push the right buttons

657
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Speaker 6: and get this Baylor defense usually he does, get this

658
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 6: defense in the right spot and guys like Hannor and

659
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Speaker 6: Horn and these guys in check. If so, I think

660
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Speaker 6: Baylor can run the ball and play a little keep

661
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Speaker 6: away and maybe win this game, steal this one on

662
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 6: the road, especially because the numbers been bouncing around. Doesn't

663
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Speaker 6: really look like the Sharps have really made up their

664
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Speaker 6: mind yet. Who they think is gonna win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Colorado favored by one point. Total is fifty one

666
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Speaker 4: and a half. I wonder if that's a sneak peek

667
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: into rapid fire with Richel right there.

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Speaker 6: You know, what do you think insider total?

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking total?

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Speaker 7: Oh Richard made his mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking all I look.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's just one of those one of

673
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Speaker 5: those early season matchups where it feels like for both

674
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Speaker 5: sides the offense is ahead of the defense a little bit,

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Speaker 5: and that number.

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Speaker 3: There is a ceiling. But what is it? Fifty one

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Speaker 3: and a half. That's not the ceiling yet as far

678
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Speaker 3: as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, listen, some people are saying Baylor's defense is

680
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: fools gold. Yeah, they've played well thus far, but last

681
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: week against the air Force not exactly high flying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, Arlton State? Is that how you say it? It's

684
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Speaker 4: a bad one. You don't know how Okay?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 6: They actually are one of the better FCS teams.

687
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Speaker 7: Though.

688
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Speaker 4: It shout out to EJ. Speed, you know, a Colts linebacker.

689
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Speaker 4: He went to Tarlton State.

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Speaker 8: I knew that.

691
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: I'm just not sure how to pronounce the place. But anyway,

692
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Speaker 4: it's a step up in weight class for Baylor's defense

693
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Speaker 4: against Colorado, So we see how they handle that very

694
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Speaker 4: much looking forward to it. All right, we've got Rich

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Speaker 4: orn Berger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting

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Speaker 4: analyst I'm Brian No coming up next the parlay platter.

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Speaker 4: There have been rumors that Jared has targeted a money

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Speaker 4: line underdog that he thinks maybe should be the favorite. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Check this out our late letter.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jared Smith has been hard at work, smoke

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Speaker 4: parlay platter for you.

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Speaker 8: What do you have for us year?

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Speaker 6: Well, we're going money lines underdogs, as is the usual

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Speaker 6: case here on a collegeotball Saturday, and this one's not

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Speaker 6: a not a bad payout, So let's get started here.

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Speaker 6: We'll begin with an early game again, actually two early games.

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Speaker 6: You want to get this in pretty soon. Houston on

718
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Speaker 6: the road at Cincinnati today. Willie Fritz is starting to

719
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Speaker 6: figure things out, guys. So they lost as a favorite

720
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Speaker 6: week one to UNLV. I think that lost looking more

721
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 6: and more respectful by the week. UNOV looks really good.

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: They hung with oh you in week two, and I

723
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Speaker 6: know Oklahoma is not supposed to be this young knout,

724
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Speaker 6: but they were a four touchdown dog and they almost

725
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 6: won the game out right, lost by four, and last

726
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 6: week absolutely blew the doors off. Rice covered easily as

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Speaker 6: a four and a half point favorite, So two and

728
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Speaker 6: zero against the number of their last two weeks. They

729
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 6: covered by twenty three and a half and twenty one

730
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Speaker 6: and a half again, Houston. I think starting to figure

731
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Speaker 6: things out. Scott saderfeel's bunch for Cincinnati. They beat Tows

732
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Speaker 6: and didn't cover. They blew a big lead to pit

733
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Speaker 6: and they beat Miami Bahao. Not overly impressive. This game

734
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Speaker 6: feels like a toss up I think Houston better defense,

735
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 6: better coach, Cincinnati better quarterback. We'll take the underdog money

736
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 6: line price with the kuds. Coastal Carolina really interesting spot

737
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 6: today as a home dog against Uva. So Uba led

738
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Speaker 6: against Maryland last week and it got blanked in the

739
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Speaker 6: second half. That's not good because Michigan State, team they

740
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 6: were facing last week, was just given up. Or chuse me, Maryland,

741
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: the team they were facing last week, was getting absolutely

742
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Speaker 6: passed by Michigan State Nick Rreland. So Uba could not

743
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Speaker 6: score against that Maryland team when Michigan State was doing it.

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Speaker 6: I think Coastal's offense has been pretty pretty feisty. He

745
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Speaker 6: took a big lead over Temple last week, and then

746
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Speaker 6: Torontal things down. I think Tim Beck's a really good

747
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 6: head coach, brought in a bunch of new players. I

748
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 6: think Coastal's getting better every week. So we'll put Coastal

749
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Speaker 6: Carolina at home against UVA. Uva is never a road favorite.

750
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Speaker 6: It hasn't happened in like five years. I think they

751
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: struggled today in Myrtle Beach. And finally, this is another

752
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 6: early game and how is how is Florida a touchdown

753
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 6: favorite on the Road in stark Vegas. What are we

754
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 6: doing here? The Gators haven't been to Starkville in six years.

755
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 6: That was Billion Napier's first season as head coach at Louisiana.

756
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: He might be back at Louisiana if Florida doesn't win

757
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 6: this game today. I think the seat is very hot

758
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 6: for mister Napier, who fell behind twenty nothing at home

759
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 6: last week to A and M. It's going to be

760
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 6: a two system, two quarterback system today for the Gators

761
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Speaker 6: Mertz and the freshman DJ Logway. You know what they say,

762
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: you got two quarterbacks, you got none. So we'll put

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Speaker 6: Houston Coastal Carolina Mississippi State all money line underdogs seven

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Speaker 6: team to one payout over at bet MGM.

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Speaker 3: Wow wow. How hot of a seat would you say?

766
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Speaker 3: Florida drops to oh four in the season.

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Speaker 6: What do they do at head coach Billion Napiers walking home?

768
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Speaker 6: I mean, I thought last week he was gonna get fired.

769
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Speaker 6: I heard rumblings a couple people, Hey, and their odds

770
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Speaker 6: open on which is the coach the first coach in

771
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Speaker 6: the fire? Boy?

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Speaker 8: Man, what's going on there in Mississippi State?

773
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Speaker 3: Lanta?

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Speaker 4: We sure brought this up last week Jared. We had

775
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Speaker 4: a Mississippi State grad the the outstanding personality Fred Smoot,

776
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Speaker 4: former NFL arback.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Fred, what's going on with your Mississippi State Bulldogs

778
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Speaker 8: over here?

779
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Speaker 3: Good lord?

780
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 4: They're almost a touchdown underdog at home high Florida.

781
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: Got lost in the sauce because he was savaging the

782
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: Irish these entire time.

783
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 8: I should have shifted the focus. Stared at me in

784
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 8: the face. I couldn't help it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't love Missisi State, but how is

786
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 6: this more of Florida than anything else? How's Florida laying

787
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Speaker 6: a touch.

788
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Speaker 3: Down on the road in the SEC crub?

789
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah that's bad. If you're like, hey, we're a home dog?

790
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Speaker 4: Who are you playing Florida?

791
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Speaker 8: That's rough right there?

792
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Speaker 3: All right?

793
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 4: Coming up next, the personnel has changed, but has the

794
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: offense changed as well?

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Speaker 8: We shall discuss.

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Speaker 3: Ah.

797
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Speaker 4: Yes, happy Saturday to you, getting you ready for all

798
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Speaker 4: these college football games, three ranked versus ranked matchups today,

799
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Speaker 4: very much looking forward to it and also looking forward

800
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Speaker 4: to a debut. Now, now try this on for size. Okay,

801
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Speaker 4: this is gonna sound very very weird to your ears

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Speaker 4: in just about five seconds. But uh, let's dive into this.

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Speaker 2: Of the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be us scene against Michigan.

805
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 8: What I love it in the Big ten matchup.

806
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Speaker 7: Of the day.

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Speaker 6: That's what we're looking at. Comfortable being uncomfortable people, Oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh in a big way.

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Speaker 5: And you know, actually, similarly to how we were talking

810
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Speaker 5: earlier in the show, this does kind of feel more

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Speaker 5: and more like a Big ten matchup with the style

812
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Speaker 5: of football that both Michigan and USC wants to play. Now,

813
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Speaker 5: USC I think is shifting gears a little bit. I

814
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 5: don't think it's a wholesale change, but I definitely think

815
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: there's more of a focus on milking the clock and

816
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: playing sturdy defense. And Michigan obviously just won a national

817
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: championship that way. In the image of Jim Harbaugh, who

818
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: is now bounced off to the NFL and he's doing

819
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 5: the exact same thing with the Los Angeles Chargers, So

820
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Speaker 5: it's beginning to look a lot like Big Except football.

821
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Speaker 3: Everywhere. Look, it really is.

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Speaker 6: Get into the Kent State Penn State matchup today at

823
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Speaker 6: forty nine point favorites with a total of fifty six.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not really really that, but you know this

825
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: is what's interesting. Many different angles, but with Michigan's offense.

826
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Speaker 4: So they make a change at quarterback and in steps

827
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Speaker 4: in alex Orgy. He takes over for Davis Warren. Now

828
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Speaker 4: I love this stat. Davis Warren who just got benched.

829
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Speaker 4: He has thrown six interceptions on the season already. Alex

830
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: Orgy has thrown six passes on the season. So you

831
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Speaker 4: bench the guy who's turning it over like crazy. Davis

832
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Speaker 4: Warren threw three picks last week against Arkansas State.

833
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Speaker 8: Not good good.

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Speaker 4: Alex Orgy just hasn't thrown the ball and he's the

835
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Speaker 4: running quarterback. So what does this offense look like with

836
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Speaker 4: Orgie back there? Because you can't run the same offense

837
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Speaker 4: he's just not that's not playing to his strengths. It's

838
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Speaker 4: not a diss it's just play to your quarterback strengths.

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Speaker 4: Instead of saying, hey, this is our system, you fit

840
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Speaker 4: in with that quarterback. No, you adapt your system to

841
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: the quarterback strengths. That's the smart way to do it.

842
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: So my question is what does this Michigan offense look

843
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: like with a new quarterback.

844
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Speaker 8: Does it look the same where he's.

845
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Speaker 4: Doing drop back and play action passing or is it

846
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 4: a steady diet of running in RPOs. If the offense changes,

847
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Speaker 4: they've got a shot. If it looks the same, they're donezo.

848
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah it should not, it should not.

849
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Speaker 5: I've been saying this for years, and finally it feels

850
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 5: like college football in the NFL, frankly, is catching up.

851
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Speaker 5: If you have a great offensive system where great players

852
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 5: or even good players can come into that system and

853
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: play poorly, you've got a bad offensive system. You have

854
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 5: to find a way to curtail your system or the

855
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 5: strengths of your system to match the strengths of your player,

856
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: or you need to change your system. So I've always

857
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Speaker 5: been a fan of offenses that have slowly matriculated players

858
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 5: into understanding how to fit the system. That's fine if

859
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Speaker 5: you have that kind of time. We're not living in

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Speaker 5: those times anymore. We live in a time frame now

861
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 5: in college football in the NFL where fan bases have

862
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: short detention spans, athletic departments get antsy, and people are

863
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 5: eager to see change quick And so if you have

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Speaker 5: a quarterback entering into the fray who has a completely

865
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Speaker 5: different skill set or even a slightly different skill set,

866
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Speaker 5: and your scheme doesn't match his talents, you need to

867
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Speaker 5: change your scheme. To help have a more productive offense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and this is an interesting matchup. It is so

869
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Speaker 6: obviously it's a very one dimensional quarterback. I think the

870
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: RPO game will be huge today. But here there's two

871
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 6: problems for Michigan's offense. One of them is a guy

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00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 6: that's actually playing but not playing well, Donovan Edwards. I

873
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 6: don't know why he's regressed as a runner, but the

874
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 6: ability to see the lane and run through the lane

875
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 6: is just something he hasn't grasped yet this year. He's

876
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 6: really struggling with his vision. The good news is Kalel

877
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 6: Mullings emerged last week buck fifty three to ten yards

878
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 6: of tot Now it was Arkansas State Michigan didn't cover,

879
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 6: but at least there was some promise in the ground

880
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 6: game with someone else besides Donovan Edwards. Because it can't

881
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 6: just be Alex Orgy left, right and center. He's a

882
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 6: great runner, he needs help. The biggest issue I see

883
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 6: with Michigan is the only guy that was catching passes

884
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 6: for them was their tight end, Colston Lovelin fifty one

885
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 6: receptions for the entire Michigan offense this year, he had

886
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 6: nineteen of them. He's a tight end well, he's heard

887
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 6: it's not playing. So can you run a lot of

888
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 6: Michigan loves to run twelve personnel right one running back,

889
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 6: two tight ends. Can you run twelve personnel effectively without

890
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 6: your number one tight end?

891
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 7: Today?

892
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 6: They do have a good backup, Marlin Klein, but losing

893
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 6: Loveland's tough like that. That's a big loss for them

894
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 6: because right tight end is kind of a quarterback's best friend.

895
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 3: Over the middle.

896
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 6: You don't have to worry about throwing it too deep.

897
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 6: You can just dump it off to them. We'll see

898
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 6: what that looks like today. But you've got to run

899
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 6: the ball, and you've got to run it well. And

900
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 6: if it's not Donovan Edwards, it better be Mullings because

901
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 6: it can't just be Orgy. I can't believe I keep

902
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: saying that word on live radio, but that's that is

903
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 6: really his name.

904
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 8: That's his name where we are right there?

905
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I just had a flashback to last week

906
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: in the NFL. When I'm thinking about Michigan their offense

907
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: and USC trying to defend it. It reminds me of

908
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 4: the Colts at Green Bay and how much of a

909
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: football sin it was and still is for the Colts

910
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: to give up all those rushing yards when they're facing

911
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: a limited quarterback in Malik Willis. How in the world

912
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: did the Packers run the ball fifty three times.

913
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 8: For two hundred and sixty one yards? How does that happen?

914
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: But in this matchup, it's comparable, right, alex Orgy, he's

915
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: a limited passing quarterback.

916
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 8: His total right.

917
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: Now, if you're into that on bet MGM, his passing

918
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: yardage total is one twenty nine and a half. Okay,

919
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: they're not expected to throw the football all over the place.

920
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 6: It still might be too high.

921
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 8: It still might be, Yes, absolutely still might be. So

922
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 8: Michigan is going to be so committed to the running game.

923
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: If you're usc this is the baseball equivalent of a

924
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: pitcher saying, fastball down.

925
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 8: The middle, let's see if you can hit it.

926
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 11: Right.

927
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: USA knows Michigan's going to be running it and running

928
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: it and running it.

929
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 8: Can they stop it?

930
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: And can Michigan have any success when they know the

931
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 4: defense knows what they're going to be doing offensively? I

932
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: love that when there are no tricks, right, there's nothing

933
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: like we're gonna do razzle dazzle.

934
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 8: You don't know if we're running throwing your off bout. No,

935
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 8: there's none of that. Straightforward, We're running the rock. Can

936
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 8: you stop it?

937
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 5: What kills you, though, is sometimes you prepare for that

938
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 5: all week long, like you think you know what you know,

939
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, a couple of gimmicks later,

940
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 5: you're looking at the scoreboard and you're saying, we're down

941
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 5: three scores because they did complete a couple of passes

942
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 5: over our head because our commitment to the line of

943
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 5: scrimmage was too high. I've seen this a lot against,

944
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: for example, military academies. Right, the game plan is, we're

945
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 5: going to stop the triple option. We're going to stop

946
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: the option. We're going to stop the option, and everybody

947
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: bunches up close to the line of scrimmage, and everybody

948
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 5: understands their responsibilities and what edge they have, and you

949
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: know the gaps and all the schemes, and then all

950
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 5: of a sudden, a quarterback who's only thrown the football

951
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: five times during the course of the season and it's

952
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 5: week eight, throws it four times in a single game,

953
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: and by halftime you're trailing by seventeen points.

954
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: We've seen it all, We've watched.

955
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 5: Those games, and so I'm very curious to see if

956
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 5: the outcomes here are going to reflect those What's really interesting, too,

957
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 5: is the narrative roiling in the back that both JJ

958
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 5: McCarthy leaves Michigan as a first round draft pick, Caleb

959
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: Williams leaves USC as a first round draft pick, and

960
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 5: the tail of the two quarterback situations at these schools

961
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 5: could not look any more different. Yeah, you have Moss

962
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 5: who is soaring to the front of the pack in

963
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 5: FBS football, and you have Orgy who's replacing ineptitude at

964
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 5: quarterback from just the past couple of weeks. It's really

965
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 5: interesting how these two paths have diverged after last season.

966
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 6: I'll be interested to hear what our pal Seamus has

967
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 6: to say about where the public feels, because on paper,

968
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 6: you would think USC is going to get a lot

969
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 6: of the handle a lot of the bets, and they have,

970
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 6: but the number keeps coming down, Right, it was six

971
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 6: and a half and now it's four. I mean, it's

972
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 6: not a massive shift, but that's a pretty sizable shift

973
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 6: in a game with a total of forty four. If

974
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 6: it gets to three, I think that's where you'll see

975
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 6: a lot of the USC money step in I still think,

976
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 6: and I have some friends, you know, it could be

977
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 6: a fake sharp kind of game. We saw this with

978
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 6: Michigan against Texas. Michigan took a ton of money as

979
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 6: a home dog against Texas. I was part of it,

980
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: and you saw that worked out, didn't work out well

981
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 6: for the Wolverines. Now Texas a very different animal. I

982
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 6: think Texas has dudes all over the field, where USC

983
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: has maybe dude singular couple, you know, yeah, and he's injured,

984
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 6: not not the plural. Where Texas is like with like

985
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 6: eight s's like there's just dudes everywhere on the field.

986
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 6: With Texas USC, there's like one scattered here and there

987
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 6: and a few of them. But I kind of want

988
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: this line to keep coming down. Keep betting Michigan, whoever's

989
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 6: betting it, keep betting them.

990
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: Give me a.

991
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 6: Three on USC and you might see that in rapid

992
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 6: fireltter Man.

993
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: That's the thing is this is the like the betting

994
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: you sometimes play tennis.

995
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: In your own mind.

996
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a cat and mouse, right which side to

997
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 4: go with? Because this is what throws a ranch into

998
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: the whole thing is. Back in July, Michigan opened as

999
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 4: a ten point favor. Wow, right, and now they're a

1000
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: four and a half point underdog currently at BETMGM. That's

1001
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: a fourteen and a half point swing.

1002
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 6: Might be the biggest shift I've ever seen in a

1003
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: four week period.

1004
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: Right.

1005
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: So that's the thing where let's just say you still

1006
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 4: like USC, you like USC minus four and a half.

1007
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: You can't help but think I could have got them

1008
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 4: as a ten point shob So what do I do?

1009
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 6: Do I know someone who bet Michigan minus ten over

1010
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 6: the summer? Imagine you got ticket.

1011
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, sure that's not looking nearly as good.

1012
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying is we always talk

1013
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 4: about closing line value, and you want to have closing

1014
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 4: line value, but it isn't everything all right, It matters like,

1015
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: for instance, you want to be on if you're Michigan,

1016
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: let's just say you're backing Michigan, you want to be

1017
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: on them plus four and a half or plus even.

1018
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: More earlier in the week.

1019
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 8: That's what you want to be on.

1020
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: You don't want to be on Michigan minus ten. Right,

1021
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: you want to have that closing line value. But when

1022
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 4: you think you've got like, hey, I've got three points

1023
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: in my favorite, that doesn't mean you're gonna win that

1024
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: bet all the time, right, Like it's a good thing

1025
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 4: to have, you want it consistently, but it doesn't mean everything.

1026
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: I think Michigan has to find a way to slow

1027
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 5: this game down. I think you at all costs, you

1028
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 5: have to find a way to sustain possessions. You have

1029
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 5: to find a way to control the clock. The worst

1030
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: thing you can do is have usc you know, earn

1031
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 5: extra possessions, give Moss more opportunities to exploit a bad

1032
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: passing defense. You've got to find a way to steal

1033
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: a couple of possessions, whether it be in the kicking game,

1034
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 5: by the way, or you know, if there's a look

1035
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 5: Moss takes care of the football.

1036
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: So I don't think that's going to be where you

1037
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: you feast on.

1038
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 5: But but there's other avenues, there's other ways to create

1039
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 5: turnover opportunities. Because that's the that's the only hope you

1040
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 5: give the Wolverines in this matchup. Because these these look

1041
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 5: like two programs on two separate levels, and bizarrely in

1042
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 5: the same conference.

1043
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, that's why. That's why Wink Martindale is crucial

1044
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 6: to me. Yep, Like I think he holds all the

1045
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 6: cards here. Now you're you're right, Like it's Miller Moss

1046
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 6: has done a good job keeping control of the football,

1047
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 6: one turnover worthy play in two games. This is a

1048
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 6: very young offensive line that is expecting the blitz. They

1049
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 6: are expecting the heat. Can wink Martindale reach into his

1050
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 6: bag of tricks and show some restraint because the way

1051
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: I see it, like you've got an All American corner

1052
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 6: in Will Johnson who can lock down part of the field.

1053
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1054
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: You can hopefully back all Like we talk about this

1055
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 6: all the time, the Mahomes defense. The way the teams

1056
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 6: are playing good offenses is they're backing up right. I

1057
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 6: heard mel Kiper going around about it this week. You

1058
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 6: wanted the outlaw, which is absurd. We can talk about

1059
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 6: that at another time, but let's focus eyes on the

1060
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 6: prize here, Like, can you play that coverage and not

1061
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 6: you know, get your hand caught in the cookie jar

1062
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 6: trying to bring the house on sixty percent of snaps

1063
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 6: like you did against Fresno. This is not Fresno State's offense.

1064
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 6: This is an offense that will hurt you if you

1065
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 6: blitz incorrectly. So I don't love this receiver group for

1066
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 6: USC it's not as elite as it's been in years past.

1067
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 6: The offensive line is young, they're on the road. It's

1068
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 6: a tough environment. Can you confuse them? Can you disguise

1069
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 6: some things with Miller boss, make it seem like you're

1070
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 6: blitzing and then drop back like that's the cat and

1071
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 6: mouse game. I think that's gonna determine this one, because

1072
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 6: you're right, guys. If we can get a long eight

1073
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 6: to nine minute drive for Michigan and then all of

1074
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 6: a sudden it's three and out on the other end

1075
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 6: for USC and then Michigan gets the ball back and

1076
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: it can pound the rock and get that offensive line

1077
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 6: work and get Edwards and Mullings involved in get Orgy

1078
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 6: on the RPOs. Like that's the path I think for

1079
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 6: Michigan to win this game. It's just Wink Martindale. You've

1080
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 6: got the cards in your hand, pal, you're gonna go

1081
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 6: all in or you're gonna check raise and slow played

1082
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 6: a little bit well.

1083
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 8: And that's the other thing.

1084
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 4: I like the aggressiveness from Wink Martindale, the Michigan defensive coordinator,

1085
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: but in a matchup like this, this is where it

1086
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: can really really burn you.

1087
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 8: Is imagine if they give.

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: Up a big play to USC, and you're playing from

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00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 4: behind with the style of offense, we're gonna see where

1090
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 4: you're just running it. So all of a sudden, you're

1091
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: down by seven, it feels like you're down by double

1092
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 4: digits immediately because you've gotta get little little chunk here,

1093
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: little chunk there, little move here, little first that let's

1094
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 4: move the chase. Like if you're actually down by ten,

1095
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: it feels like you're down by three touchdowns.

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00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: Well, then the clock isn't your friend anymore.

1097
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 5: Where you can score slowly and you could be methodical

1098
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 5: about your approach still, but as soon as you give

1099
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 5: the ball back to USC, if you don't solve that

1100
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 5: Rubik's cube, they're gonna torch you again. So yeah, the

1101
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 5: game does turn down or come down to Wink Martindale's

1102
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 5: defense and can they be patient? I love what you

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00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: just said, Jared. Sometimes when you cloud the picture at

1104
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and you know, going back to

1105
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 5: your analogy to poker, and you can.

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00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: Bluff a little bit, yep, you can show blitz and bail.

1107
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: You can look like it's going to be, you know,

1108
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: too off the strong side, and then all of a sudden,

1109
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 5: everybody drops into coverage and you're dropping seven.

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00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: Well, that clouds the picture for any.

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 5: Quarterback, especially a quarterback who's got limited experience as a

1112
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 5: starter at this level. So I think you do play

1113
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 5: a little bit conservative, especially at first in the early rounds.

1114
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: Feel out your opponent, allow them to be checked down, Charlie,

1115
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 5: Shorten the game for your offense, and maybe good things

1116
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 5: will happen.

1117
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 6: Sixty perliterate against Fresno's ridiculous.

1118
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 8: That's not gonna work against it.

1119
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 3: It is not gonna work.

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 6: And even forty five percent against Texas, like you saw,

1121
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 6: that was the big drop off. But even against Texas

1122
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 6: you mentioned it, Brian, when the game script to negative,

1123
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 6: it just got out of hand.

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Speaker 5: You want to hear a little forty chess? Yeah, real quick,

1125
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 5: real fast, real fast. Sometimes defensive coordinators will look ahead

1126
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 5: and they'll put things on film so that USC spend

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00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 5: all this time with their blitz protections, and then all

1128
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: of a sudden you show up and they're playing coverage

1129
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: and it's like, hey, what happened to this.

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Speaker 3: Aggressive row the curveball today?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this follow the money real good one.

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Speaker 4: All right, like to welcome in Seamus McGee, team lead

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Speaker 8: Seamous, good morning to you.

1162
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 4: Okay, it has been crazy line movement throughout the week,

1163
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 4: and especially if you go back to this summer. In

1164
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 4: this Michigan USC game, Michigan opens as a ten point

1165
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: favorite and now they're a four and a half point dog.

1166
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 4: What's your best read on this game? And also all

1167
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: the crazy line movement going back to July.

1168
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: Seamus, Hey, guys, thinks letting me back?

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, just a very weird game.

1170
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 12: Ten points honestly felt like too many when this wife

1171
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 12: did open up in the summer, so I'm not surprised

1172
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 12: to see it go back the other way. But now

1173
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 12: then you see six point Michigan.

1174
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 11: Home dog, and you know they haven't given you much.

1175
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 12: To be excited about in ann Arbor so far this year,

1176
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 12: but a lot of sharp money coming in on the

1177
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 12: Wolverines throughout the week. So yeah, we're still going to

1178
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 12: need Michigan in this game.

1179
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 11: It looks like it's pros versus Joe's.

1180
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 12: With a lot of money coming in on the Trojans

1181
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 12: from the public, and the sharp's really liking Michigan.

1182
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 6: It really scares me, Seamus, because the public is wrong

1183
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 6: most of the time, but I think in this case

1184
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 6: they're right. But I just can't get there yet. With

1185
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 6: this Michigan game, I think I'm gonna pass unless it

1186
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 6: gets the three. I think I'm gonna pass the game.

1187
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 6: Here's another interesting one. I cannot wrap my head around

1188
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 6: Florida being a road favorite in the SEC today. And

1189
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 6: you guys hung some interesting numbers earlier this week on

1190
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 6: whether or not Florida and Florida State will go winless

1191
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 6: in conference play, and the know there is like a

1192
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 6: big favorite obviously, but on the road today with billion

1193
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 6: apier after what we saw last week, Like you, I

1194
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 6: can't get behind Florida winning this game today. Tell me

1195
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: I'm wrong.

1196
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 12: I think this number is about right. I have this

1197
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 12: game personally at like six six and a half. It's

1198
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 12: been a little two way action. I think my kickoff

1199
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 12: we might need Mississippi State to cover, but it wouldn't

1200
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 12: be a big need. I'd say Florida's a more talented team.

1201
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 12: Mississippi State hasn't looked.

1202
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 11: Good in the least I mean.

1203
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 12: Now like Florida has. But I think this is just

1204
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 12: talent wise. I think this is a big mismatch for Florida.

1205
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 5: Hey, Seamus, we're I mean, if we're going to compare

1206
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 5: the football season to a game, we're kind of the

1207
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 5: first quarter has just expired, right, you know, So now

1208
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 5: we have a lot of information on what we're going

1209
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 5: to see from a betting standpoint, from the better standpoint

1210
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 5: against the books.

1211
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Speaker 3: What edges are there to exploit?

1212
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 5: Like, because everybody's got a sense now of what teams

1213
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 5: like to do, are there ways that betters can attack numbers, spreads,

1214
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: totals at this point in the season to find some edges?

1215
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 12: Big it says I think you could get right now

1216
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 12: is trying to be first to injury related news if

1217
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 12: you follow teams very closely, Like if you're a big

1218
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 12: knac fan, you think you can get to news faster

1219
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 12: than some of the books can. And there's your angle there.

1220
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 12: I mean, it's going to be harder to get infol

1221
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 12: quick than you know. Sportsbooks will on big teams like

1222
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 12: LSU or Alabama, for example, but I think some of

1223
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 12: these smaller schools when if you know the bigger impact

1224
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 12: of a player on a team, that's when you can

1225
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Speaker 12: find an edge.

1226
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Speaker 4: Seamus McGee joining us here on countdown to kick off.

1227
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Speaker 4: What else does BETMGM need today? What would be ideal

1228
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Speaker 4: for you in the books?

1229
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Speaker 12: I mean Michigan covering anywhere between four and a half

1230
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 12: to six is great, a win is phenomenal, and then

1231
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 12: we're gonna need the Sooners big time this week.

1232
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 11: Oklahoma playing at home against Tennessee.

1233
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 12: It's I told Ben Fox this week, we haven't written

1234
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 12: many bets on Oklahoma this week, So definitely going to

1235
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Speaker 12: be verting for Oklahoma this week. Spread perfect if they

1236
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 12: win out right, it's going to be a dream.

1237
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Speaker 6: Is this around the time, Shamus, where you get to

1238
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 6: that point where we know these teams after watching them

1239
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 6: for a few data points, and you get a situation

1240
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 6: like that, like home is no slouch. In fact, I

1241
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 6: think this is one of the few times they've been

1242
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 6: a home dog, one of their biggest times they've been

1243
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 6: a home dog in recent memory. Yeah, just the second

1244
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 6: time they've been a home dog in the last twenty years.

1245
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 6: The other one was to Ohio State, so they lost

1246
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 6: that game by twenty one. But are we at that

1247
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 6: point now where every week there's gonna be a team

1248
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 6: that nobody wants to bet on it?

1249
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, but like I don't know, it's like Oklahoma's gonna

1250
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 12: be that team.

1251
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 11: Like I think a team you're gonna see later. He's

1252
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 11: probably gonna be a team.

1253
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 12: Like Florida where their schedule like after the Bay is ridiculous.

1254
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 12: I don't think they're gonna be favored outside any games

1255
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 12: outside of maybe like UCS at home, and they might

1256
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 12: be a small favoring as Kentucky at home, I mean probably,

1257
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 12: But I mean these are games where I think you're

1258
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 12: gonna have public lining up against them. I don't think

1259
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 12: Oklahoma is that team. I just think everyone is really

1260
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 12: into Tennessee and Nico.

1261
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Speaker 5: Two part question, Shaemiss, is now a good time to

1262
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 5: start looking ahead at Heisman?

1263
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: You know? Or they're good value that you can find?

1264
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 5: And then also second part, why should I put all

1265
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 5: my money right now?

1266
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: In Travis Hunter?

1267
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 12: I don't love either the Colorado guys yet unless they

1268
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 12: have one of the biggest turnarounds we've seen in college football.

1269
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 11: But I think that was the perfect time.

1270
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 12: Jane Daiels was in favor to win the Heidsmen until

1271
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 12: the second half of last year, So there's definitely still

1272
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 12: some value on the board. There's a mattering of qbs

1273
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 12: that seem to just have perfect games every week, whether

1274
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 12: it's Nico Riola.

1275
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 11: Kind of slipped up a little bit last night, but

1276
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 11: then you have m Ward down in Miami.

1277
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 12: There is still back, there's still one quarterback from Texas,

1278
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 12: whoever it is going forward. So there's definitely some opportunities

1279
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 12: I think on the Heisman boards.

1280
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Speaker 4: All right, Seamus, before you go, what's the Seamus Special

1281
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: this week for us?

1282
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 12: So I'm gonna throw a curveball here. I'm gonna go

1283
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 12: to Texas u El Monroe, and I'm gonna take over.

1284
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 12: It's that fifty three and a half right now. This

1285
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 12: is a trend I like where the difference between the

1286
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 12: total and the spread is either ten points or less.

1287
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 12: So it's still there right now. In the total of

1288
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 12: fifty three and a half and it's spread of forty

1289
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 12: four and a half. Those games go over like sixty

1290
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 12: five percent.

1291
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 11: Of the time. So I'm just gonna tail that.

1292
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 6: See where we go, just like Penn State Kent State, right,

1293
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: forty eight, forty nine points, brand of fifty six total.

1294
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they're gonna. I think they're gonna let

1295
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 11: Arch run it up.

1296
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 6: Let Art run it up.

1297
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 4: They might, all right, Seamus, we'll see if it if

1298
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 4: it hits a match, yep.

1299
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 8: Gotta get some uh, gotta get some throws in there.

1300
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: You know, Chunk plays, Chunk plays baby for the over all, right, Seamus,

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Speaker 4: you have a good day, my friend.

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Speaker 8: We'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 12: Thanks.

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Speaker 11: Guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, there he is Seamus McGee, team lead of

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Speaker 4: Sports Trading at bed MGM. All right, uh Rich, We're

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Speaker 4: gonna expect and your question here in just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: First though, we've got Dan Byer with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Dan with the latest. What's going on, dB.

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Speaker 10: Guys, getting set for this huge day in college football

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Speaker 10: and a great game in Stillwater that he'll see on

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Speaker 10: Fox coming up at four o'clock Eastern time, Number twelve,

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Speaker 10: Utah at number thirteen. Oklahoma State Cowboys favored by one

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Speaker 10: in this game. And it also looks like Cam Rising's

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Speaker 10: not going to go for the utes in a it's

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Speaker 10: still taking me time. This Big twelve showdown Utah. Now

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Speaker 10: in the Big twelve Marshall at Ohio State. Get things

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Speaker 10: going on Fox today, the first game of that tripleheader

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Speaker 10: noon Eastern time. And you guys just talking about the Buffs.

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Speaker 10: Colorado home to Baylor eight o'clock Eastern time. That is

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Speaker 10: on Fox tonight. Bengals wide receiver t Higgins says he'll

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Speaker 10: make his season debut on Monday night against the Commanders.

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Speaker 10: After missing the first two games of the season because

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Speaker 10: of a hamstring injury, Higgins has been able to participate

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Speaker 10: in limited practices the last couple of days.

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Speaker 7: Final injury report for the Bengals come out later today.

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Speaker 10: Steelers now baked up on the offensive line, as ESPN

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Speaker 10: reports first round pick tackle Troy Batano is going to

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Speaker 10: miss time because of a knee injury suffered in practice

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Speaker 10: on Friday. Steelers have the Chargers coming to town in

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Speaker 10: a battle of two and zero teams. Guardians and Phillies

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Speaker 10: can both clinch divisions today. They've already punched their tickets

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Speaker 10: to the postseason earlier.

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Speaker 7: Phillies did so last night.

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Speaker 10: Dodgers obviously in the postseason, and if you missed it,

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Speaker 10: shot back as they're close to wrapping up their third rounds.

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Speaker 10: Soccer news Chelsea topped west Ham today my a score

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Speaker 10: of three to nil. Currently Liverpool up two nil in

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Speaker 10: their match against Bournemouth. Tottenham up to one in the

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 8: Back to you, Thank you Dan.

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Speaker 2: Count down co Heisman watch.

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Speaker 4: All right, right, you through this question out to Seamus

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Speaker 4: looking at the Heisman market. How about this at BEDMGM

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Speaker 4: front and center leading the pack, cam Ward Miami quarterback,

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Speaker 4: who has been fantastic. He's at plus four point fifty

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Speaker 4: right now in second place. You got Jackson Dart and

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Speaker 4: also Jalen Milroe. They're seven to one, and then Nico

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Speaker 4: Iyama Leava and it's like it's you know, you got

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Speaker 4: syllables and you got emphasis, and n Nico's freaking crushing it, okay,

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Speaker 4: and he's at eight to one. Look, the path for

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Speaker 4: cam Ward is pretty interesting because he's a baller. He's

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Speaker 4: putting up sick numbers, and the schedule for Miami is

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Speaker 4: very favorable. So if they just mess around and somehow

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Speaker 4: go undefeated or lose just one game, he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a serious player when it's all said and done. The

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Speaker 4: other question is you threw it out there. When you

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Speaker 4: look at Travis Hunter from Colorado, he's got to be

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Speaker 4: the best player in college football.

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Speaker 8: You're a two ways.

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Speaker 4: He's the show hey Otani of college football here going

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Speaker 4: both ways.

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Speaker 8: But the Colorado's not gonna win enough games.

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Speaker 4: I hate that we don't value that in that we

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Speaker 4: value that too much in the Heisman race. It should

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Speaker 4: be about the best player and the biggest impact. Instead,

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Speaker 4: it's the best player on the best team. And sadly,

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Speaker 4: Travis Hunter's just not gonna be in the mix when

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Speaker 4: it's all said and done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with that.

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Speaker 5: That's the reason why it was a little bit of

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 5: a tongue in cheek remark, because what he's done is remarkable.

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Speaker 5: It just will not be Heisman winner caliber play from

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Speaker 5: the team wide success standpoint. But when you look at

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Speaker 5: a situation, and again I love longer odds. You guys

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Speaker 5: know this about me from the last few years doing

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Speaker 5: Heisman Watch. I look at a situation, emerging situation with

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Speaker 5: arch Manning, whose stock is all of a sudden on

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Speaker 5: the rise, with an injured Viers, and what the Longhorns

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Speaker 5: look to do this season. I think it's going to

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Speaker 5: be a winning and successful season for the Longhorns. I

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Speaker 5: think arch Manning, with that name and that pedigree, is

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Speaker 5: going to take them far as long as he remains

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Speaker 5: the starter. It's going to be hard to argue if

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Speaker 5: he has early success. So I love getting him. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's like kind of like buying Google Stock when they're

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Speaker 5: still operating out of a garage and all of a

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Speaker 5: sudden boom, it explodes like Arch Manning. Right now, as

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Speaker 5: of last night, I'm bet MGM was plus sixteen hundred.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just value pouring out of your ears at

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Speaker 5: this point. Miller Moss another name, you know, just want

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Speaker 5: to talk about pedigree, maybe not from a last name standpoint,

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Speaker 5: but just from a head coach quarterback standpoint. You think

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Speaker 5: about the Baker Mayfields, the Jalen hurts Is, the Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 5: the past quarterbacks that Lincoln Riley has, you know, blessed,

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Speaker 5: you think about Miller Moss his first game ever. I

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Speaker 5: was actually on the call for the Holiday Bowl destruction

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Speaker 5: of the Louisville of Louisville in San Diego. Six touchdown

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Speaker 5: passes broke the record for that bowl game.

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Speaker 3: He looked impressive. He's continued to look impressive.

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Speaker 5: So a couple of guys again, with longer odds, I

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Speaker 5: think Miller Moss is probably like plus two thousand right now.

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Speaker 5: With longer odds, you could sprinkle a little dough on

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Speaker 5: and you might be able to see those seeds grow

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Speaker 5: as the season moves forward.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think cam Wore deserves to be the favorite,

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 6: but I wouldn't at him here. I think the most

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 6: intriguing if you're looking for a market moving event, I

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Speaker 6: don't think arch manning against Monroe is going to move

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Speaker 6: the market much today, even if he goes crazy, because

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Speaker 6: I think yours is waiting in the wings and most

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 6: likely will get another chance to be back in that

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01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 6: starting role. I think that makes it hard with Texas.

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Speaker 6: I agree that Texas's quarterback deserves to be in the

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Speaker 6: front seat, but who is Texas's quarterback. I think there's

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Speaker 6: a game next week that we're definitely going to talk

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Speaker 6: about that we're not going to talk about this week.

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Speaker 6: But if you want to get ahead of a market

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Speaker 6: moving event, Alabama plays Georgia next week. Like Alabama's a

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 6: home dog slight home dog. I actually think Alabama's going

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 6: to win the game. I think Jalen Milrose to pick

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01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 6: right now at seven because I think if Alabama wins

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: that game next week against Georgia, Jalen mill Rose the

1440
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 6: Heisman favorite on Sunday morning when that market reopens, and

1441
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 6: it's not a knock on cam Ward but it's back

1442
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 6: to what Brian said at the top team success matters

1443
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 6: when you beat the number one team or in this case,

1444
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 6: the number two ap team if they do win that

1445
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 6: game next week. Or on the other side, if Georgia

1446
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 6: wins that game and you think George is the right side,

1447
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 6: they are favored Carson Beck because that team's quarterback is

1448
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 6: just it's like a slingshot. It's like Sonic the Hedgehog

1449
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 6: when you went through that little afterburner ps. It just

1450
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 6: sling shots. It right to the top of the list.

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 6: The winner of that game next week, George or Bama.

1452
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 6: I think that team's quarterback will be, if not the favorite,

1453
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 6: right near the top of the Heisman list come next week.

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01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 4: And it's I love the Sonic reference. Yeah was it

1455
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: that or was it Super Mario Brothers? Where if you

1456
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 4: were going forward and just stopped, it'd be like, yeah, yeah,

1457
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 4: that's kind of your momentum in the Heisman race.

1458
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 8: If your team loses a game, you know.

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 4: What I mean, It's like it puts on the brakes

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 4: right there. But that's the thing, real fast is I

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: would never bet on arch Manning right now, like save

1462
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 4: that drop when he.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 8: Wins the Heisman, but.

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01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 4: Long, a little a sprinkle, just something like how long

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 4: is he going to remain the starter?

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 6: That's the question.

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01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: And I don't be in there for a week or two.

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 8: They have no chance.

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01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: Royalty.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like I feel like, okay again, I

1471
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 5: understand the competition this week isn't going to move mountains

1472
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 5: or anything.

1473
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: But if he I mean, if he.

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 5: Plays well, it's going to be difficult to put him

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01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 5: back on the bench.

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01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.

1477
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 5: All of a sudden that just becomes a very interesting conversation.

1478
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 5: And you know that article is going to be written

1479
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 5: when yours is healthy. Who's the starting quarterback with the Longhorns?

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Speaker 4: Okay, fair, but put it this way, Yes, what percentage

1481
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 4: chance do you think there is that Quinn yours doesn't

1482
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: see the football sea.

1483
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: That is a good way to look at it. That

1484
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 3: is a good way to look at it. I think.

1485
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 6: That arch Day is the starter.

1486
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 3: Don't ruin my time by making perfect sense. Prime arch

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: Days the start.

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Speaker 6: Maybe yours hurts other hand.

1489
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 4: Right, Maybe maybe arch hires like Nancy Tanya Harding's hit man,

1490
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 4: and you know, we get the lead pipe to the queen.

1491
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Speaker 4: You were short of that, Quinn yours back is back

1492
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Speaker 4: behind center. Right, We've got Rich Ornberger, Penn State, All American.

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Speaker 4: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No

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Speaker 4: Coming up next. Oh, the bonding time with the of

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Speaker 4: start with you.

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 6: of reasons. One, Ucla is really bad and I was terrible,

1515
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 6: terrible pick last year. Bett Or Toplefik last week betting

1516
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 6: on them. But the reason why I think they are

1517
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 6: going to struggle even more today against the run is

1518
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 6: because one of their best run defenders is out Keanu Williams,

1519
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 6: who was hurt in that game against the Indiana last week.

1520
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 6: Another player hurt Kanye Clark in the second are So

1521
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 6: this UCLA defense is really on the back foot. Keep

1522
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 6: an eye on the freshman running back for LSU, Cayden Durham.

1523
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 6: Brian and I we watched this game after our broadcast

1524
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 6: last week. This LSU South Carolina game was lacko Tobacco,

1525
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 6: just crazy up and down Cayden Durham. Lsu'd really struggled

1526
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 6: to run the ball. They have a great offensive line,

1527
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 6: but they were banged up in the backfield. But Durham,

1528
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 6: the freshman, really came on last week. I had almost

1529
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 6: ten yards of carry, scored a touchdown on his first

1530
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 6: run at twenty six yard run. His rushing yard prop

1531
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 6: today is forty eight and a half against a bad

1532
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 6: UCLA defense in a game where LSU's favored to win

1533
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 6: by three plus scores. I think Kirk Durham is going

1534
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 6: to really take this job and run with it. So

1535
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 6: i'go k Durham over for the eight and a half fresh

1536
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 6: yards today against the Brows.

1537
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 5: So I like Cam Rising going over the two hundred

1538
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 5: and twenty five passing yard ditch mark. He's only done that,

1539
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 5: by the way, six times during his last full season

1540
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 5: of actually playing, missed all of twenty twenty three, and

1541
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 5: is good to go after or the hand injury.

1542
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: I like. I like Rising.

1543
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 5: I think he's probably one of the more entertaining players

1544
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 5: in the game right now at his position. And I

1545
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 5: also like him against this Oklahoma State defense who give

1546
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 5: up a lot of explosive plays. Look to some of

1547
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 5: this happening in big chunk plays for Cam Rising in

1548
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 5: the utes. They're gonna have to depend on his arm today,

1549
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 5: So give me Rising over. I mean, there's different spots

1550
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 5: you can find him out two twenty two and a half.

1551
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 5: I would take over two twenty five easy all day long.

1552
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 8: I'm gonna stick with that same game.

1553
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Oli Gordon, who was unbelievable last season,

1554
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 4: has gotten off to a very slow start this season.

1555
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: I just don't see him turning the corner against Utah's defense,

1556
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like Utah is really good

1557
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: against the rush. You could look at this and say, hey,

1558
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 4: if Oklahoma State's winning, we're not sure if Rising is

1559
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 4: gonna go or not. Right like, so let's say Oklahoma

1560
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: States leading, Maybe they rely on the ground game a

1561
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 4: little bit more depending on how big the lead is,

1562
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 4: and Ali Gordon gets a few more carries, that could

1563
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: be the difference between winning and losing a bet like this.

1564
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna take under eighty one and a half

1565
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: rushing yards for Ali Gordon today. Again, even if he

1566
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 4: gets some extra carries toward the end of the game,

1567
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm still comfortable with the under bet because he just

1568
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 4: has not gotten going. They rely much more on their

1569
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: passing game with Alan Bowman. So I'm gonna take Ali

1570
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 4: Gordon under eighty one and a half, which you're not

1571
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 4: used to hearing that number, right, It just shows you

1572
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: how much he struggled so far this season.

1573
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 8: It's normally in.

1574
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 4: The triple digits easily, but it just hasn't been there

1575
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 4: the ground game for Oklahoma State thus far.

1576
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 6: If Rising's one hundred percent, that game's going over the

1577
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 6: total today. Because I think Oklahoma State's got a You're

1578
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 6: gonna see Utah just stack the box, try to make

1579
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 6: Bowman a passer.

1580
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, coming up next, it's a debut that's

1581
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: weird and will it also be bad?

1582
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: Oh?

1583
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,799
Speaker 4: Happy Saturday to you. We are less than one hour

1584
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: away from kickoff. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff,

1585
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 4: presented by bet MGM.

1586
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 8: You guys ready to feel weird again? Oh yeah, yep

1587
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 8: for this.

1588
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 6: Wed let's get weird.

1589
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 8: All right, let's dive into.

1590
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: This now SCC matchup of the day.

1591
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 4: That's right, that would be Tennessee course at Oklahoma. Oklahoma

1592
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 4: makes its SEC debut here today, which I don't know

1593
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 4: how you guys feel. I've got like these pie charts

1594
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 4: and I keep track of all the scores and stuff,

1595
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 4: and every now and then I'm like, all right, let

1596
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 4: me find this team, and I'm looking in the wrong conference, you.

1597
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

1598
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right, they're in the SEC. Oh,

1599
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 8: that's right, they're in the big ben.

1600
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 4: Every now and then, yeah, being comfortable, I just screw

1601
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 4: it up. But you've got Oklahoma making the debut today.

1602
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 4: How about this, I should say tonight rather in primetime.

1603
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:56,440
Speaker 4: Josh Hipel, the Tennessee head coach former quarterback at Oklahoma,

1604
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 4: and then was the offensive coordinator for the better part

1605
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: of a decade. He was an assistant there at Oklahoma

1606
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 4: for the better part of a decade, was an offensive

1607
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 4: coordinator for a portion of it. Was replaced by Lincoln

1608
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 4: Riley in twenty fifteen.

1609
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 8: That's right, he.

1610
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 4: Got shoved out of it, and it gave him the

1611
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 4: Heisman pos and I'm sure he remembers that very clearly.

1612
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 4: And that's just one of the little subplots with today's game.

1613
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:22,839
Speaker 8: I love that note.

1614
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 5: You know, Oklahoma for a three and oh football team,

1615
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 5: they are one of the worst looking three and oh

1616
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 5: football teams we've seen in a long time. Just they

1617
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 5: don't do much really outstanding offensively.

1618
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 3: And I don't want to go as far to say.

1619
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 5: That they're poor offensively, but they don't run, block well.

1620
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 5: Their receivers aren't playing at a high level. They don't

1621
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 5: look explosive. It's a very to use the word that's

1622
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 5: been coined by the younger generation, a very mid offense. Yeah,

1623
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 5: I don't I don't like like. I don't get me wrong.

1624
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 5: Like wins are wins, and we were talking about it.

1625
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 5: You know, if you want Heisman buzz for a player,

1626
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 5: if you want you know, the acclaim nationally. If you

1627
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 5: want to keep your ranking, you gotta have wins. But

1628
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 5: style points matter in college football now, and it's it's like,

1629
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you're watching a runway show and you're

1630
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 5: being told it's fashion, and you're like.

1631
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those are trash bags the models are wearing.

1632
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 3: And that's what Oklahoma's offense feels like right now.

1633
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 6: This is a very interesting game, and not because of

1634
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 6: the x's and o's, but because of the I would

1635
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 6: call it the drama behind the scenes and the familiarity

1636
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 6: between these two coaching staffs. Brian alluded to it, I'll

1637
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 6: hammer it home here. Bob Stoops, who is now kind

1638
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 6: of an assistant with Oklahoma, denied any media availability this

1639
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 6: week because he did not want to be asked the

1640
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: question about firing Josh Eipel back in twenty fifteen. And

1641
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 6: I get it. It's a weird week. You kind of

1642
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 6: didn't expect Hypo to be back in this spot where

1643
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 6: he comes back into Norman as now the hunter and

1644
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 6: they're the favorite. Also, Venables was the code DC of

1645
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 6: that OU team win Hypel won the national championship. So

1646
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 6: it's just you get just all these weird right head coach,

1647
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 6: now he's the DC, or now he's the new head

1648
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 6: coach of a different team, and then a former DC

1649
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 6: was a head coach and now he's back. It's like

1650
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 6: all of these mixes and matches together, and I think

1651
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 6: it's gonna make the personality of this game very intriguing.

1652
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 6: Tennessee's personality on offense up tempo. I mean, this Tennessee

1653
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 6: offense might be better than the one from a couple

1654
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 6: of years ago, and I think the reason is because

1655
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 6: Nico's better. They've got the running back Sampson who's a workhorse.

1656
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 6: The wide receivers are I think better than you think,

1657
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 6: and the old line is healthy. So I'm curious. Eight

1658
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 6: yards per play, six hundred yards per game, sixty four

1659
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 6: points per game for Tennessee's offense against the Oklahoma defense,

1660
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 6: which is the strength of their team. I think the

1661
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 6: scheme with Oklahoma's defense is better than the talent. They

1662
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 6: are getting good pressure, They've got eleven sacks so far.

1663
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 6: They're allowing less than eighty yards per game on the ground,

1664
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 6: but their defensive line isn't as sec as maybe Tennessee's

1665
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 6: offensive line is. In terms of the athletes and the

1666
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 6: dudes that they have. So Tennessee's got more dudes. Oklahoma's

1667
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 6: got the home field and maybe a little bit better scheme,

1668
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 6: and then you got all those coaching intricacies on the sidelines.

1669
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 6: With all the familiarity, this one feels like it's gonna

1670
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 6: be a real pressure cooker.

1671
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1672
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: I love the matchup, and to me, one of the

1673
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 4: biggest questions for Oklahoma is what are they taking away

1674
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: defensively because they have to take something away. You just

1675
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 4: said it right there, Charot. It's not just Nico doing

1676
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 4: his thing. It's the ground game. Yeah, the running game

1677
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 4: is really really good. So Oklahoma's defense, you gotta take

1678
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 4: something away or greatly slow something down, because if.

1679
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,799
Speaker 8: Nico's throwing it and they're running it, you're really screwed.

1680
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,839
Speaker 8: You gotta take something away.

1681
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 4: Right, And that's one of my biggest questions here. And

1682
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 4: the other thing that I think of is I think

1683
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 4: sometimes brand name can screw you up as a better

1684
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 4: because I guarantee there are some betters out there that

1685
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 4: have thought Oklahoma is getting a touchdown depending on the week,

1686
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 4: like north of a touchdown now just slightly south of

1687
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 4: a touchdown. But you said the stat earlier they've been

1688
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 4: a home dog twice in the last twenty years.

1689
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, second time. Yeah, only one other time.

1690
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 4: There's just more brand equity in college football with Oklahoma

1691
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaker 4: than there is with Tennessee.

1692
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 8: No, and it's not to say Tennessee's it does.

1693
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 4: They just haven't had the history that Oklahoma has had,

1694
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 4: and so sometimes that can screw you up. I think

1695
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 4: that's the wrong way to look at this is it

1696
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: feels like, ooh, Oklahoma brand name getting seven, Like, forget

1697
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: about it.

1698
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 8: It's all about today. It's all about tonight's game. It's

1699
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 8: not about.

1700
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 4: Whether Sam Bradford played or Barry Switzer coach. It's not

1701
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 4: about anything but tonight. That's how you have to look

1702
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 4: at it.

1703
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with this.

1704
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 5: This is like, if you include brand names, it's very

1705
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 5: difficult to look past the overwhelming aptitude that Oklahoma has

1706
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 5: had in this sport for a long time.

1707
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 3: But if so, I mean, I don't know apply that

1708
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 3: to anything.

1709
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 5: If there's a new, upstart soda company going against Coca

1710
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 5: Cola and you're aware of the brand names, well maybe

1711
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 5: just the brand is going to tilt your favor toward

1712
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 5: Coca Cola because it's a familiarity thing. But close your

1713
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 5: eyes and taste tests those two colas, maybe all of

1714
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 5: a sudden you'll have a higher percentage of people liking

1715
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 5: the upstart brand. That's what this sort of feels like

1716
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 5: with this matchup today. And to your point, you're absolutely right,

1717
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 5: Oklahoma has to try to take something away, the one

1718
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 5: edge they have, even though they're going against Dylan Sampson,

1719
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 5: who's been incredible for the Valls backfield. You know, he's

1720
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 5: rushing darn near eight yards per carry. Is when you

1721
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 5: look at Oklahoma, the one redeeming thing about this team

1722
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 5: overall so far as the run defense. So if that

1723
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 5: ends up neutralizing the volunteers offense a little bit, or

1724
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 5: at very least putting the game squarely in Nico's hands,

1725
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 5: you may find yourself with an advantage somewhere. But like

1726
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 5: I said, if this is a blind taste test, I'm

1727
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 5: going with the you know, unknown cola B against you know,

1728
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 5: major brand A because it doesn't feel like the Oklahoma

1729
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 5: brand that we're used to seeing, the brand that we trust.

1730
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. So this number hasn't moved a lot,

1731
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 6: you know, it's come off of seven, which is an

1732
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 6: impactful move because that's one of the more common numbers

1733
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 6: that lands right in games three and seven being the

1734
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 6: key numbers, and we've seen the number come off of seven.

1735
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 6: So there is some favor. There is some support for

1736
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 6: Oklahoma in the market. Their defense is accustom to playing

1737
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 6: in space because they played in the Big Twelve, and

1738
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 6: that's what Tennessee wants to do. They want to play

1739
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 6: in space, they want to spread out. But Tennessee's not

1740
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 6: Texas Tech. Tennessee's not TCU. Right Like, there's there's a

1741
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 6: big step up in talent class that I think the

1742
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 6: Tennessee offense has that Oklahoma playing in the Big Twelve

1743
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 6: for all those years just hasn't seen. How about the

1744
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 6: Oklahoma offense, we haven't talked about that, Jackson Arnold, I

1745
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 6: don't really see much high like seven percent turnover worthy

1746
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 6: play right, cannaboid sacks one hundred and twentieth out of

1747
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty nine qualifiers when pressured, not a

1748
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 6: consistent passer, doesn't have a ton of weapons for rooks,

1749
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 6: banged up the old lines, not creating push new center,

1750
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 6: new right, tackle outside the top ninety on early downs

1751
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 6: late Now, I mean the Oklahoma offense is a struggle buss.

1752
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 6: Tennessee actually, of all the teams, has a really good

1753
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 6: data point. They had a thirty six percent pressure right

1754
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 6: against NC State, who returned four guys on the offensive line.

1755
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,919
Speaker 6: So Tennessee might have the best offense in the country period,

1756
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,640
Speaker 6: and their defense is getting pressure stuff rate above average,

1757
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 6: have a rate above average. They look bigger, faster, stronger.

1758
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 6: I don't see the Oklahoma love here. I don't see

1759
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 6: unless it's fluky and Norman, something happens and the game

1760
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 6: script gets out of whack. But man, if this game

1761
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 6: gets played in a vacuum and Tennessee's weapons do their thing,

1762
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 6: I could see them putting a big number up on

1763
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 6: the board today, Especially if the game script gets out

1764
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 6: of control and Jackson Arnold has to turn into a passer.

1765
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 6: I mean, that's just bad news Bears for the Sooners.

1766
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 4: It is, and that's where I think the game has

1767
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 4: to go for ou Is. They lead the lead, They

1768
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 4: lead the nation in takeaways. You gotta take the football

1769
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 4: away if you're Tennessee. If Tennessee protects the football, I

1770
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 4: just don't see Oklahoma matching points. I know Oklahoma's defense

1771
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 4: has been good, but Oklahoma's offense, woof, it has not

1772
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 4: been good at all. And if you're not taking it away,

1773
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,759
Speaker 4: I just don't see, like we gotta have peanut punches

1774
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 4: like Peanut Tillman. They gotta have peanut punches all game

1775
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: long from ou. If they're not taking it away, if

1776
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 4: they lose the turnover battle, they have no show to

1777
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 4: get it right. But if they win by a decent margin,

1778
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 4: like if they're plus two plus three, hey.

1779
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 8: Home cooking. You never know.

1780
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 4: But I don't think they can even be even and

1781
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 4: have a legitimate chance to win this game in the

1782
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 4: turnover battle.

1783
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm glad that Jared brought up the defense

1784
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 5: for Tennessee. You know, there's so much focus on offensive

1785
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 5: football and we tend to go over the fact that,

1786
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 5: you know, two things that are really important for a

1787
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 5: defensive front to have success. Obviously having talented players. They

1788
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 5: have a star Pierce Junior who's actually off to kind

1789
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 5: of a slow start up front for this defense.

1790
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 3: But then aside from him, you also have depth.

1791
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 5: You have quality rotational players who can filter in and

1792
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 5: out of that front seven, who can wreak havoc, who

1793
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 5: can rush the passer, who still win on those one

1794
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 5: on one blocks upfront and who can stuff and to

1795
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:35,480
Speaker 5: gap these offensive linemen, and the offensive line for Oklahoma

1796
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 5: is off to a terrible start.

1797
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 3: They're the lowest graded unit in the Power Five right now. Now, again,

1798
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 3: it's a.

1799
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 5: Home game, and like you pointed out, Brian, fluky things happen,

1800
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 5: especially when you have a home crowd behind you and

1801
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 5: it's it's a huge game. I mean, if they can

1802
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 5: win this game and go four and oh and get

1803
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 5: a win over the volunteers who on pay look way

1804
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 5: more talented, this is enormous for Oklahoma. But it would

1805
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 5: feel fluky if we're walking away from this this weekend

1806
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 5: saying to.

1807
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: Ourselves like, how the heck did Oklahoma pull that off?

1808
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 5: Because that's what it'll take it if they'll have to

1809
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 5: pull something off.

1810
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, we might be looking back when we do our

1811
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 6: show in late January or mid January after the National

1812
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 6: Championship and we're like, do you remember when Tennessee was

1813
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 6: only laying six and a half points against Oklahoma? We're like, man,

1814
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 6: that was a bad number Tennessee. Is I just there

1815
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 6: is a chance that this offense is that good. We

1816
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 6: haven't seen it enough yet to really say it, but

1817
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 6: we are in the beginning stages of Isnessee is Tennessee's

1818
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 6: offense Joe Burrow lsu Esque. I don't think they have

1819
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 6: as many weapons on the outside, but I think the

1820
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 6: scheme and the pressure they put on a defense because

1821
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 6: of how fast they go and who is pulling the

1822
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 6: trigger now with with Nico and frankly Josh Heipel, who's

1823
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 6: been kind of the mastermind now for the last couple

1824
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 6: of years. There's a chance that we look back at

1825
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 6: this offense and be like, Wow, this offense was historic

1826
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 6: and we got him under a touchdown against Oklahoma.

1827
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Hey, it might come down to that.

1828
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 4: And you know, Nico is so good and if he

1829
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 4: continues this up, we'll all know how to pronounce his

1830
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 4: last name.

1831
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know. Yeah. For what it's worth, right now,

1832
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 8: this is him pronouncing his own last name.

1833
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 6: The correct way to pronounce my last name is a.

1834
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 5: Okay, that's right, he Malayava, Yes, sweet, I'll.

1835
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 4: Tell you right now, Nico for now, I still for

1836
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 4: the Greek freak, right, that's right.

1837
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 8: We need a nickname for Nico, you know, we need

1838
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 8: a nickname for him.

1839
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,719
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1841
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 4: He might play, but maybe not, but maybe so, but

1842
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 4: we don't know yet.

1843
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1864
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 4: saga over here, right And I hate I was just

1865
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 4: thinking about this a second ago. I hate that I'm

1866
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 4: worn out by this, but I am like this kid,

1867
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 4: you just try to play. He's in his seventh year

1868
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 4: playing college football. He missed all of last season. He's

1869
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 4: got this hand slash finger injury going on. He just

1870
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 4: wants to play like. I got no issue with him.

1871
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 4: It's just the storyline of will he play, will he

1872
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 4: not play?

1873
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 8: He might play, maybe not. I'm just done. I'm done.

1874
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 4: And anybody who's been burned before thinking Cam Rising is

1875
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 4: going to play, only to find out right before a

1876
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 4: game time, yeah, actually he's not gonna go.

1877
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 8: And it's like, can I do anything.

1878
01:35:59,040 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 3: About my bet?

1879
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 4: No, it's locked in, baby, can't do anything about that.

1880
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 4: I just I hope he can play. I hope he's

1881
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 4: healthy enough to play well, because I think he absolutely

1882
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 4: is an impactful player. It's just the soap opera. Man,

1883
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 4: I went off the ride. Sorry, I agree with you.

1884
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 5: Seven year senior getting to start a final year, we

1885
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 5: assume at Utah after being injured all of twenty twenty three.

1886
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,839
Speaker 5: He's been snake bitten by injuries. But this weird feeling

1887
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 5: of Willie Orwoney is so familiar when it comes to

1888
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: the utes, and it's not fun, it's not right. It's

1889
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 5: not the best way to promote the sport. Here's my

1890
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 5: problem with it. And this is a little bit of

1891
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 5: I guess inside baseball, but as a player and somebody

1892
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 5: who my entire life has benefited from the interest in football,

1893
01:36:55,960 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 5: it's this makes football less interesting. I understand the gamesmanship,

1894
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 5: I understand the chessboard that Kyle Whittingham is playing with,

1895
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 5: and all these coaches are looking for an edge, but

1896
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 5: this does not do anything to benefit the sport. People

1897
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 5: want to bet on this game, okay, people want to

1898
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 5: bet on the utes. They want I gave out my

1899
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 5: prop bet it's on Cam Rising, okay, and if that

1900
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 5: gets taken down off the board, okay, maybe you don't

1901
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 5: lose your money, but it makes that game a hell

1902
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 5: of a lot less entertaining for those who follow my

1903
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 5: bet on the over right.

1904
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: Look, here's the thing. You're you're hurting the sport.

1905
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 5: When you do this to the sport, these are now

1906
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 5: professional athletes playing at the collegiate level. These guys can

1907
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 5: cash in on their name, image and likeness. It's time

1908
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 5: we get a closer look like we do in the

1909
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 5: NFL at the injury situations leading up to game time

1910
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 5: and if it is a significant injury, or if it's

1911
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 5: a situation like sometimes happen where it truly is a

1912
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 5: game time decision, well then fine, it's a game time decision,

1913
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 5: But it can't be a game time decision every single

1914
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 5: week with the same player at the same school, especially

1915
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 5: one of sancha such consequential importance like Cameron Rising with

1916
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 5: the Utah Utes, Like we've done this dance a million

1917
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 5: times over.

1918
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 3: It's not helping the sport. Yeah.

1919
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 6: I tweeted under peat Damil's report this morning about that,

1920
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 6: and I said pretty much exactly that. I said, we

1921
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 6: need better injury reporting in college football. And I had

1922
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 6: a couple of people respond, well, who does this impact

1923
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 6: other than the gamblers? I don't know, the boosters, the coaches,

1924
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 6: the players, the hot dog vendor in the stands that

1925
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 6: wants to watch the game, in the middle in you know,

1926
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 6: in between himself selling hot dogs. Yeah, like it impacts everybody.

1927
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 6: It's and it's not only a player, it's the most

1928
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 6: important player on the field, the player that will impact

1929
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 6: the points bread by a touchdown plus in most cases.

1930
01:38:59,560 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1931
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 6: So I don't know how to fix it. But the

1932
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 6: current state we have, Kyle Whittingham has figured out a

1933
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 6: way to game the system, and most coaches have learned

1934
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 6: how to say something without saying it. So the news

1935
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 6: reports are very murky and it makes it hard. You

1936
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 6: tell one reporter he's going to play. You tell another

1937
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 6: reporter he might play. You tell a third reporter he's

1938
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 6: trending down. A fourth reporter trending up. So it's like

1939
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 6: all the reports are all mixed and nobody knows anything.

1940
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 6: I remember a week with Kyle Whittingham. I forget and

1941
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 6: he is an habitual linestepper with this stuff like Rising

1942
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 6: didn't play and nobody knew about it. He just didn't

1943
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 6: walk onto the field. Everybody thought he was going to play.

1944
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 6: And I think it was Bryson Barnes. It might have

1945
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 6: been last year, just Bryson Barnes.

1946
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: There is a first step, yeah right.

1947
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, like what like, what's your happen it feels like

1948
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 6: I'm walking down the strip. You ever walk down Las

1949
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 6: Vegas Strip. You guys are visit Vegas, you know. Yeah,

1950
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 6: you get people that'll come up to you and ask

1951
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 6: you questions and you're like, wait a minute, that question

1952
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 6: seemed weird. Usually it's someone trying to steal your money.

1953
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 6: It's a grifter. Hey you want to play this game.

1954
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 6: Hey you want to come.

1955
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 3: To this club.

1956
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 6: Hey you want to do this?

1957
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Hey you want to do this?

1958
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 6: Stay away from those people trying to take your money.

1959
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 6: That's what Kyle Whittingham feels like in this spot. He

1960
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 6: knows how to game the system. He knows how to

1961
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 6: say something without saying it. It's like three card money,

1962
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 6: Where am I going? Where's the quarterback? It's really weird

1963
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 6: and it needs to stop.

1964
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 4: Well that to me, Jared, and I'm with you, it's

1965
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a weird comparison.

1966
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 8: It's another sport. But follow me on this.

1967
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 4: It really is the hack a shack in the NBA, right, Like, yeah,

1968
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 4: a little bit. If you're allowed to foul a guy

1969
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 4: who doesn't even have the ball and just put him

1970
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 4: at the free throw line, well I don't have a

1971
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 4: problem with the coaches taking advantage of.

1972
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 6: That exactly right.

1973
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 4: If you're allowed to do it, it's more so on

1974
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 4: the structure than it is the coach is taking advantage

1975
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 4: of it.

1976
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 8: So I don't and I don't think you do either, Jared.

1977
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,879
Speaker 4: I don't look at Kyle Whittingham like, hey, whoa dude.

1978
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 8: What's going on?

1979
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 4: I look at the NC double A and I look

1980
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 4: at the conferences themselves and say, you guys are just

1981
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 4: allowing this to happen, Like, put yourself in this position.

1982
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 4: What are the chances that Oklahoma is as in the

1983
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: dark about cam rising status as Oklahoma State is. Do

1984
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 4: you really think Utah is? Like truly, it's a game

1985
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 4: time decision. We don't know, we don't know if he's

1986
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 4: gonna go or not. We have no idea, we have

1987
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 4: no backup plans. We'll just see, We'll just see what happened.

1988
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 4: There's no chance. So it's on the conferences, it's on

1989
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 4: the toothless NC double A to come up with something

1990
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 4: better where coaches aren't allowed to basically utilize the hack

1991
01:41:59,080 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 4: a shack.

1992
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 2: All week long?

1993
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 4: Can you utilize it as much as they want and

1994
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 4: there's nothing that's done about it.

1995
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 5: Brian I'm so glad you brought up the NBA because

1996
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 5: my closest comparison is in that league too.

1997
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 3: Yep, And it's load management.

1998
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 5: So players view load management as something that benefits them.

1999
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,719
Speaker 3: It's like, oh wow, any night we.

2000
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 5: Want, we could say, ah, coach, don't feel like going,

2001
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 5: and you could just sit Okay, Yeah, sure.

2002
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 3: That sounds like a benefit.

2003
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 5: I'm sure everybody shows up to work some days and

2004
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 5: they feel like not today. I wish I could just

2005
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 5: tell my boss not today. I'm gonna go home, or

2006
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 5: if I have to be here, I'm gonna check out,

2007
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 5: I'll clock in.

2008
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:40,599
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm just.

2009
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,440
Speaker 5: Gonna be sitting on the bench in street clothes eating popcorn,

2010
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 5: you know. I mean like that's that's essentially what NBA

2011
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 5: players have been allowed to do. But think about the

2012
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 5: the overall and dramatic effect that has had on ratings, viewership,

2013
01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 5: and interest in attending games in arena. How many times

2014
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 5: have people been to a city and maybe even looked

2015
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,480
Speaker 5: at the schedule and went, oh, my goodness, my favorite.

2016
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 3: Team is playing here.

2017
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,759
Speaker 5: But jeez, you know, is Kawhi Leonard actually gonna address

2018
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 5: Oh man, the Warriors are in Philly. I got that

2019
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 5: conference coming up and the Warriors are playing the seventy

2020
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 5: six er.

2021
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 7: Is that?

2022
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2023
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 3: But is Steph and Clay gonna suit up? You know,

2024
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 3: I'm I you know, load management hurts the sport the

2025
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,440
Speaker 3: same way this stuff hurts the sport. How many UTS fans.

2026
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 5: Were offered a ticket this weekend or you know, look,

2027
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 5: home games, away games, does matter? How many fans of

2028
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,919
Speaker 5: cam Rising are hesitant to go attend the game because

2029
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 5: of this injury report because're like, well, I'll wait until

2030
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 5: he's not a game time to his decision, because I'm

2031
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 5: really just going because I like him.

2032
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the problem.

2033
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 5: And so yeah, everybody says, oh, it's just people are

2034
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 5: betting on sports.

2035
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 3: No it's not. No, it's not. Because I just laid

2036
01:43:58,400 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 3: out for you.

2037
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 5: How NBA are handling this same type of things, these

2038
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 5: very seeming Oh this is just transactional. These are this

2039
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 5: is just to the benefit of gamesmanship for the coaches

2040
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 5: and the players. It doesn't affect anybody except for people

2041
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 5: who put money. No, no, no, no no. This has an

2042
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 5: effect on the overall interest in the game. And if

2043
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 5: you allow if you allow players or coaches to take

2044
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 5: an inch they'll take a mile and they won't realize

2045
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 5: they're cutting off their nose to spite their own face.

2046
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 5: This is bad for the sport. It looks bad for

2047
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 5: the sport. It needs to be corrected.

2048
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and of course all I hear these days on

2049
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 6: social media is, oh, the games are fixed. Everything's fixed.

2050
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 6: It does it's not a good look for it. If

2051
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 6: this is happening that that doesn't help. The first of all,

2052
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 6: the games are not fixed, but this kind of stuff

2053
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 6: doesn't help that argument. Back to the actual game themselves. Yeah,

2054
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:57,919
Speaker 6: this one is intriguing because you have a Utah defense

2055
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 6: that knows they can stop the run. They are good

2056
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 6: at stopping the run. They like to play with extra

2057
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 6: guys in the box. That's how Morgan Scalley usually goes.

2058
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,799
Speaker 6: Oli Gordon has and you mentioned in the prop segment,

2059
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 6: Brian Oli Gordon has not been this star this year.

2060
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 6: He's averaging less than three yards per carry in his

2061
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 6: last two games against Tulsa and Arkansas. The od line

2062
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 6: is struggling less than a yard per rush before first contact.

2063
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 6: That's why I think the over is intriguing here. Now,

2064
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 6: it would help to know if Utah starting quarterback is

2065
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 6: playing but I think this could turn into a pass

2066
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 6: funnel game because Utah is gonna even if Oli Gordon

2067
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 6: wasn't this Heisman caliber back. Utah strategy is to stop

2068
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 6: the run, so it's gonna put the ball in Alan

2069
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 6: Bowman's hands, who's actually done a really good job getting

2070
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 6: the ball out quickly. Two point two time to throw

2071
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 6: right seconds and twelve percent pressure rate. So again, he's

2072
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 6: been facing a lot of heavy boxes because he's dealing

2073
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 6: with Oli Gold in this run defense. You know, people

2074
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 6: trying to stop Gordon, but he's still gotten the ball

2075
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 6: out really fast. So can this Utah offense, which also

2076
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 6: has a good offensive line Micah Barnard averaging you know,

2077
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 6: a ton of yards per carry. If Cam Rising plays

2078
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 6: and this total stays in the mid fifties, like it

2079
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 6: feels like an overgame. But I just don't know because

2080
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 6: I don't know who's playing quarterback, and that's going to

2081
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 6: move the number by at least a field goal by

2082
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 6: the time we get the game time.

2083
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really affects everything. It affects the prop bet

2084
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 4: market side total. Everything is affected by Cam Rising. Will

2085
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 4: he or won't he? We will find out at four

2086
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 4: pm Eastern time, on Fox. All right, we're going to

2087
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 4: find out right now.

2088
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 8: What else we need to be aware of in the

2089
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 8: sports world.

2090
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 4: We've got Dan Bayer gracing us with his presidence here

2091
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 4: this morning.

2092
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 8: What's going on?

2093
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 7: Dan?

2094
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2095
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 10: That delicious football sandwich that Fox is giving us today.

2096
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:56,480
Speaker 10: That meets of Utah and Old and Oklahoma State sandwiched

2097
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 10: in between a matchup between Marshall and Ohio State that

2098
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 10: kicks off at the top of the hour. On the

2099
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 10: nightcap is Baylor at Colorado. Not a bad day on

2100
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 10: FIC one as well. Houston and Cincinnati kick things off

2101
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 10: at twelve o'clock Eastern time. That's followed by Arizona State

2102
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 10: of Texas tack and then Northwestern at Washington in a

2103
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 10: Big ten tilt coming up later on this evening. So

2104
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 10: news from the NFL some injury news to pass along.

2105
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,839
Speaker 10: Steelers first round pick Troy Fittano out indefinitely after suffering

2106
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 10: a knee injury in practice yesterday. He will not play

2107
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 10: in Sunday's battle between the two and oh Steelers and

2108
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 10: the two and OH Chargers. Jets are two and one

2109
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 10: after their win on Thursday night against the Patriots, but

2110
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 10: they lost tackle of Morgan Moses for two to four

2111
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 10: weeks with an NCL spring. Bengals wide receiver T Higgins

2112
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 10: set to make his season debut on Monday night against

2113
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 10: the Commanders.

2114
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 7: A golf note to pass around.

2115
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 10: Third round of the BMWPGA Championship is wrapped up at

2116
01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 10: Wentworth and Mateo Manasera leads at eighteen under par Rory

2117
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 10: McElroy and Billy Horschel three shots back.

2118
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 7: Guys, I leave you with this story. I told it

2119
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 7: yesterday on the air.

2120
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 10: As a lifelong Seahawks fan, I have tried to get

2121
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 10: my three year old son to become a Seahawks fan

2122
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 10: as well. But I've also said I've tried to get

2123
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 10: him to know NFL teams by animals, and he knows

2124
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 10: the Dolphins.

2125
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 7: Brian.

2126
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,879
Speaker 10: And last week when the Dolphins were playing, the Bills

2127
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,440
Speaker 10: were watching the game and he's cheering for the Dolphins,

2128
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 10: and so I'm like, awesome, cool, no big deal.

2129
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 7: This week, I say, Brody, who.

2130
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 3: Were cheering for Seahawks are Dolphins?

2131
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:29,679
Speaker 7: This week?

2132
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 10: He drops the Dolphins on me. He's all Dolphins right now. Yeah,

2133
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 10: this is this is tough to take. So he's gone

2134
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 10: over to your side, at least for this week. I mean,

2135
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 10: the Seahawks are Dolphins only play you know, once every

2136
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 10: four years. But man, this is this is this is

2137
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 10: too odd. This is my planning has not provided the

2138
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 10: fruits that I was hoping for.

2139
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 7: My son's fandom.

2140
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 4: That is so funny, Dan, I was joke, I was

2141
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 4: gonna jump in and jokingly because of what came to

2142
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 4: mind is like, hey, son, you know the twelves.

2143
01:48:58,600 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 8: What do you think?

2144
01:48:59,320 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 3: Huh?

2145
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 8: Finns up, Dad.

2146
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 3: You know, he knows Lions, he knows Cardinals.

2147
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 10: But he's taking this affinity towards the Dolphins.

2148
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 5: Just keep them away from the Bears, Dan, some of

2149
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 5: those early words that you don't want them to learn.

2150
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 6: Away from the Jets.

2151
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 7: That's a four letter word. We are not going to say.

2152
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome. Good. Great to hang with you too, man.

2153
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 7: Yeah you too.

2154
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: we've hit on the bigger games this week. What else

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Speaker 4: are you interested in today? You know we all have

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Speaker 4: ranked versus ranked, circled highlighted the whole thing.

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Speaker 8: What else? I've got my eye on Florida State? Are

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Speaker 8: they gonna win a game?

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Speaker 4: Are they gonna win a They gonna beat cal This

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Speaker 4: will be their first win of the season. I also

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Speaker 4: want to see Arizona State. How about that role reversal.

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Speaker 4: We didn't expect Florida State to be winless, we didn't

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Speaker 4: expect Arizona State to be unbeaten, but they go to

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Speaker 4: Texas Tech As Dan said, that's on FS one three

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Speaker 4: three pm Eastern time. I'm interested in that one too.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna see some crazy offensive fireworks again.

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Speaker 8: Totals fifty eight and a half.

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Speaker 4: I like Arizona State and Texas Tech as an intriguing

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Speaker 4: matchup today as well.

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Speaker 3: Mine's more players specific.

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Speaker 5: I definitely want to see what Cam Rising looks like

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Speaker 5: if he ends up going, even though I hate what

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Speaker 5: Kyle Whittingham's doing in that game. Also Arch Manning and

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Speaker 5: I know this is an underwhelming matchup. Longhorn's great. They

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Speaker 5: they're expecting to beat the snot of you know, Louisiana Monroe.

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Speaker 5: But I'm really interested in the brand. We were just

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Speaker 5: talking about Oklahoma. It's like how the Mighty have fallen?

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Speaker 5: Like that's a brand that we connect a lot of

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Speaker 5: success to. But how are they gonna look in this

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Speaker 5: matchup today, you know, against the volunteers. The Manning brand

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Speaker 5: has never let us down, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Like Peyton he was great, Eli, he was a Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl MVP two times. He's uh, he's going to officially

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Speaker 5: be up for consideration for the Hall of Fame for

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Speaker 5: the first time, uh, in his post career since his retirement. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I look at Arch Manning and I'm so curious what

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Speaker 5: the story is gonna look like from here on out.

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Speaker 5: We saw him step in have an incredible performance for

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Speaker 5: an injured quinn Ewers who has that oblique injury he's

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Speaker 5: still recovering from.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see him play.

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Speaker 6: I'll give you some look ahead and some letdown spots

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Speaker 6: that are intriguing. You got Northern Illinois. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: a big favorite today against Buffalo. We've seen that number

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Speaker 6: come down a little bit. We know what NIU did recently.

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Speaker 6: Another one that's intriguing is Vandy against Missouri. We haven't

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Speaker 6: talked about Missouri much. Vandy had a terrible game last

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Speaker 6: week against Georgia State, lost outright as a big favorite.

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Speaker 6: They other than that game against Virginia Tech, they haven't

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Speaker 6: looked that good. But Missouri hasn't looked great either. They

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Speaker 6: barely got past Boston College last week, and they really

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Speaker 6: struggled against the dual threat Castianos the quarterback, well Pavia

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Speaker 6: for Vandy's kind of got that dual threat nature in

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Speaker 6: him too. I saw Vandy take a lot of money

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Speaker 6: respected group gave out Vandy earlier this week at twenty one.

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Speaker 6: That's down to like eighteen. You want to talk about

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Speaker 6: a crazy upset in the SEC. That would be one

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Speaker 6: for the ages if Vandy goes into Colombian pulls off

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Speaker 6: that one against the top ten Missouri team. Here's another

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Speaker 6: one that's interesting. We haven't talked about Miami. We did

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Speaker 6: briefly discuss cam Ward in the Heisman market, but South

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Speaker 6: Florida's taken a little bit of money as a home

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Speaker 6: dog today against Miami in state rivalry, Miami has a

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Speaker 6: short week on deck. They played Virginia Tech on Friday

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Speaker 6: in their ACC opener. So again, I don't expect Vandy

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Speaker 6: to beat Missou. I don't expect South Florida to beat Miami.

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Speaker 6: But based on what we've seen the first month of

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Speaker 6: college football, would either of those results surprise you?

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Speaker 8: Interesting?

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Speaker 4: No, I like those look ahead spots and letdowns and

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Speaker 4: all that type of stuff.

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Speaker 8: Something rose coaster.

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Speaker 4: This is, you know, this is not a marquee matchup,

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Speaker 4: but I do wonder Like last week, Jared, you and

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Speaker 4: I we were in Washington, d c. Rich Rich had

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Speaker 4: the audacity to work and not be.

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Speaker 8: Able to attend there.

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Speaker 6: But she's rich.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about Notre Dame against Purdue, and Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame the week prior had been embarrassed by Northern Illinois

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Speaker 4: and what happened against Purdue. They blew the doors off

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Speaker 4: of them sixty six to seven. I'm wondering about Purdue today.

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Speaker 4: Right Purdue at Oregon State. That's at eight thirty pm

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Speaker 4: Eastern time. There's been a little bit of Purdue money.

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Speaker 4: It's ticked down the spread. It's at Oregon State at

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Speaker 4: minus three and a half right now, is a little

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Speaker 4: bit higher earlier in the week. I wonder if Purdue,

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Speaker 4: who got absolutely thumped and embarrassed last week.

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Speaker 8: I'm not expecting them to win sixty six to seven today,

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Speaker 8: But do they.

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Speaker 4: Take that embarrassment and pull an irish on Oregon State?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: Are they able to respond the way Notre Dame was

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Speaker 4: last week? Because the power of embarrassment is a real thing.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you one last one cow on the road,

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Speaker 5: live dog going to Florida State. Sure they're dog two

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Speaker 5: and a half points. Take a good close look at

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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 6: Because I date's bad.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Florida State's bad. The cow Bears. I just watched

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Speaker 5: them in person last weekend. That quarterbacks better than people

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Speaker 5: are talking about and that defense is serious. That's gonna

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Speaker 5: be a long, hard day for the seminoles at home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, there's rich Ornberger Fence State All American.

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Speaker 4: He blowed torches some pork shoulder as well. We've got

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Speaker 4: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. His dog, Jackpot, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: is nearby right sleeping, sleeping. Okay, he's getting ready for

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Speaker 4: a big day here today, cash and bets the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: I'm Brian no coming up next rapid fire. We each

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Speaker 4: have three selections for you. We keep track, We talk

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Speaker 4: friendly trash. Jared has a whiteboard tracking the picks. Serious

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Speaker 4: a little up on game. Keep it locked right here.

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Speaker 4: as well. Here on FSR, all right, we.

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Speaker 8: Got some picks to make. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 8: All right, Jared, we start with you.

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Speaker 3: What do you like?

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Speaker 6: We are gonna take three and a half points with

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Speaker 6: the Houston Cougars in a very classic Big twelve matchup,

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Speaker 6: Houston against Cincinnati, just like we all expected, right, Houston

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Speaker 6: twenty five spots higher an EPA margin. We talked about

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Speaker 6: this game in parlay platter. Willie Fritz is starting to

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Speaker 6: figure things out. Nice went over Rice last week. Cincinnati's

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Speaker 6: kind of been up and down. Didn't get a cover

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Speaker 6: against Towson, beat Miami, Ohio, lost the big lead against

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Speaker 6: pitt I think volatility here. I'll take the three and

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Speaker 6: a half points with the Kougs. I will take three

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Speaker 6: and a half points with co Carolina. Uba has not

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Speaker 6: been a road favorite and non conference play since twenty eleven.

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Speaker 6: Very unfamiliar spot. Tim Beck knows the acc He was

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Speaker 6: the OC at NC State for several years. He brought

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Speaker 6: in a bunch of new players in the transfer portal

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Speaker 6: to coastal. They're improving week after week. They're catching three

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Speaker 6: and a half today as a home dog against Virginia,

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Speaker 6: I'll take the chance. And finally, goodness, gracious, I don't

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Speaker 6: understand where the UCLA money is coming in this game.

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Speaker 6: But we saw a wave of action on the Bruins yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I don't care the sharps are wrong. I'm laying a

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Speaker 6: big number with LSU today, twenty one and a half

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Speaker 6: point favorites at home against UCLA. I think the run

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Speaker 6: game is going to be all over this Bruins defense

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Speaker 6: and that guy Caden Durham. Keep an eye out for him.

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Speaker 6: So LSU mightus twenty one and a half. Coastal Carolina

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Speaker 6: plus three and a half Houston plus three.

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Speaker 7: And a half.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the cow Bears are going on the road for

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Speaker 5: their first ACC test.

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Speaker 3: They're getting two and a half against FSU. Cal's a

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Speaker 3: real team. Florida State is not.

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Speaker 5: I hate the way the Seminals look to start their season.

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Speaker 3: I love the way the Bears are playing.

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Speaker 5: Give me the points on the road for the hot

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Speaker 5: cow Bears Baylor at Colorado fifty one and a half

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Speaker 5: point total, Give me the over. I don't trust either

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Speaker 5: defense that means points, especially with the way Shador Sanders

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Speaker 5: throws the football round.

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Speaker 3: Florida on the road at Mississippi State. Mississippi State is

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Speaker 3: getting seven points.

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Speaker 5: I'll bite, especially with the way the Gators have looked

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Speaker 5: to start this season.

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Speaker 3: Give me the home dog Bulldogs getting seven.

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Speaker 5: So I've got Cow plus two and a half, Baylor

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Speaker 5: Colorado fifty.

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Speaker 3: One and a half. Give me the over Mississippi State

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Speaker 3: plus seven.

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Speaker 6: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oli Gordon, he's struggled for his standards as the

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma State running back this season, hasn't rushed for a lot.

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Speaker 8: I don't expect him to rush for a lot today.

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01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 4: Let's take his over fifteen and a half receiving yards,

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Speaker 4: special player.

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Speaker 3: It out to him.

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Speaker 8: Let's get him involved. Let's not just say hey, they're

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Speaker 8: stopping him. I guess we're not gonna use Ali Gordon.

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Speaker 6: Let's throw it to him, sharp right, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take alex Orgy give me under one twenty

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Speaker 4: nine and a half passing yard. They're gonna run it

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Speaker 4: and run it and run it against USC and Rich.

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Speaker 4: This is the stinkiest line of the entire week. Go on,

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Speaker 4: I'm laying seven with the Florida Gators.

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Speaker 8: How in the world are they favored by seven? I

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Speaker 8: think we're gonna find Dallas.

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Speaker 3: No run a lap, you owe a lap.

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Speaker 4: Might be my worst pick of all time, but hopefully

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Speaker 4: it hits,