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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back to I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm look here with Matt Williamson as

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Speaker 1: usual and uh, Matt mel Kiper gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: grief this time of year because I mean he's been

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Speaker 1: putting out mock drafts for years and buying his guide

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Speaker 1: since I was like six years old. Yeah, can you

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Speaker 1: still buy it? Don't even know he pung it up

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. Gonna say, I didn't think retired

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Speaker 1: from that. I got a bunch of those from over

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Speaker 1: the years somewhere in my home book. Yeah. Um. But

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Speaker 1: he put out his his second or his latest mock draft.

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Speaker 1: It's a two round mock, two round mock. First year

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Speaker 1: that they're actually doing trades on ESPN, which Smell finally

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Speaker 1: gave that to go ahead. That's the thing about mock draft.

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Speaker 1: I like, I do my mock drafts on on d

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Speaker 1: K Pittsburgh Sports dot Com. And there's been one guy

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Speaker 1: I think he needs of the last three weeks, he

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Speaker 1: comes on and says, I don't know why people waste

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Speaker 1: their time on these mock drafts. You just spent the

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Speaker 1: time coming on here in all three of these to

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Speaker 1: comment on it. He read it. It's something that you

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Speaker 1: think is a waste of time. They're immensely popular. People

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Speaker 1: want to see. Don't get me wrong. I hope no

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Speaker 1: one looks at him and thinks all of us are

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Speaker 1: predicting this or that's the thing. That's the other part

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Speaker 1: of the equation with that people that's just stupid is

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is just one an exercise. It's an exercise.

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Speaker 1: If this happens, then this happens in this like the

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Speaker 1: one I put in, the one I put out last week.

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Speaker 1: I passed on a running back in the first round

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Speaker 1: to take Caleb Farley instead. So this is what happened

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Speaker 1: because of the value. Well here's what happens, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't get a running back until round four

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Speaker 1: or the Brown Silent signed Clowney. So now they don't

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Speaker 1: take an edge, and now that edge falls to the box, right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like the Eminal trade, the

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Speaker 1: Niners trade, and no one's didn't saying they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a high percentage of He's right, even mel but what's

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Speaker 1: interesting about mel and some of these guys are more

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Speaker 1: doubt in than other, like Keiper's mock, and this is

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Speaker 1: the first two rounder. I'm much more concerned with the

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Speaker 1: names than the placement because someone's people tell him things.

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Speaker 1: And if he's all of a sudden got a guy

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Speaker 1: in the second round. That there's a lot of those

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Speaker 1: in this draft. That's what I think is interesting about

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Speaker 1: this one again, because in every draft, those fifteen guys,

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Speaker 1: they're fifteen guy everybody should nail. I know, these fifteen

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Speaker 1: guys are going in the first round. We might not

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Speaker 1: know what landing spot, of course, I mean, and that

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Speaker 1: could change and one trade throw one trade throws everything off.

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Speaker 1: But it's those it's those next forty to fifty that

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Speaker 1: you go, okay, those guys, do you get those right? Right? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like boy, I didn't think of him as a second rounder,

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Speaker 1: but I could understand why somebody would. Or you know,

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Speaker 1: where's Walker Little going who hasn't played in two years?

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Speaker 1: This and this year is more of that than any

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Speaker 1: because so many guys haven't played absolutely um so no

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Speaker 1: I think mac Jones had done deal, but I do

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Speaker 1: think it's not worthy that Lands and Fields are both

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Speaker 1: having a second pro day and are both there are both,

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Speaker 1: and there's only a seams that are both you know,

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Speaker 1: or are there' even going to anyone? Like the Steelers

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Speaker 1: don't even go in there. It's just it's four those teams. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He projects a trade then between Miami and Atlanta at four,

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Speaker 1: and Miami goes to four. Yeah, okay, So the Miami

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Speaker 1: then takes Kyle Pitts. I guess if you love them,

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Speaker 1: you got extra draft picks. You don't want to wait.

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Speaker 1: And okay, that then makes at five Pina Sol to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, which I'm sure they'll be. The Falcons. Then

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Speaker 1: take trade Lance at six. Guess that makes sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: know Miami's not moving up for a quarterback. You know

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati's not going to take your quarterback. So you get

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Speaker 1: you're you can you're putting out all this information you know,

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Speaker 1: we really like we were like we could take Pitts here,

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Speaker 1: we can, you know, we really like Pits. Maybe that

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Speaker 1: to that. Not to mention, if you're sitting there at six,

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Speaker 1: for for whoever loves Lance or Fields. Yeah, right, if

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Well, I mean they did lose the slot Samuel, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Samuels going, they got more and uh yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: went that way over over Smith. Uh. At nine, Denver

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Speaker 1: takes Michael Parsons. I think that's possible. We talked about

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Speaker 1: Fangio's infinite affinity for that would be stranger that they

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Speaker 1: would pass on fields. Oh yeah, I guess that would be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that would be it. That would

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Speaker 1: be a tough decision in their in their draft room.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be I would too, but

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Speaker 1: I can said I can see Fangio banging on the table.

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Speaker 1: I know I need that inside linebacker that to run

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Speaker 1: my defense. You get Bolton in the second round, right

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Speaker 1: then trades up to ten with Dallas and takes Fields.

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Speaker 1: That would be terrible. So none of those quarterbacks make

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Speaker 1: and maybe they certainly aren't making it or or there

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Speaker 1: think they would have to move up and that would

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Speaker 1: would be a record. I'm not friends with mel or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, but I followed his work for so

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Speaker 1: long I can guarantee what he just did there in

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Speaker 1: the top ten? Is he wanted to get the right

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Speaker 1: ten players, you know, And if if we had to

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Speaker 1: make a couple of little trades, which you never did

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Speaker 1: trades before, fine, but I bet mel it was a

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Speaker 1: few were sitting here and we're off the record, would say,

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Speaker 1: then goes at twelve to the Eagles. Fair enough, the

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Speaker 1: Chargers take Slater again, and I think I think at

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Speaker 1: that part, at that point, your top thirteen, that's your

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Speaker 1: cut off. That's your cut off. I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: make an argument that fourteen Christian Derri saw fifteen J. C. Horne.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are going in the first round. Yea, they are.

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Speaker 1: Um of the thirteen, Parsons is the only one I

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Speaker 1: little off the field and linebackers are hard to fit sometimes.

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Speaker 1: But and it's a deep and it's a deep lineback.

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Speaker 1: But he's the best of the group. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: bet Belichick ll grab and if they don't trade up,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't know if he gets passed

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Speaker 1: the top half of the first round. So then yeah,

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Speaker 1: as they said, fifteen, the Cowboys go j C. Horne. Sixteen,

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Speaker 1: reachecks supposedly or going supposedly it went well been positive.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's safe to say Rissaw and Horn

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Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's seventeen. The Raiders take Elijahbetra Tucker

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Speaker 1: is he's a slam dunk first round. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: as a guard. He's the best of the group. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets past Minnesota. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. At eighteen, the Dolphins take Quitty pay He's

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Speaker 1: he's pretty much a slam dunk first round. I think

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Speaker 1: At nineteen, Washington takes Jeremiah o Woso co Ormoa. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a slam down first round I really be

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Speaker 1: shocked if he's there when Pittsburgh picks watch him. At

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Speaker 1: twenty the Bears take Tevin Jenkins, perfect Bear, nasty Weather,

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Speaker 1: slow Field. It's twenty one, the Colt steake Jalen Phillips.

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Speaker 1: I think that this year is to cut off. I

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Speaker 1: in the second round, right, I mean like, would the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs passed on Jenkins and he felt no way? Don't

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Speaker 1: know where Derris saw right or even a Fara Tucker,

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Speaker 1: would you know? Right the roastal Courtmore is gonna go somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that all those guys are definitely first rounders. I

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Speaker 1: think unless Farley is a medical region. It's twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Titans take Elijah More. I don't think he's a guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: in the second round, that wouldn't be surprised. But pulling

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Speaker 1: out the Melda English Dictionary, that makes me think he

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Speaker 1: could go pretty high. Yeah, for somebody's he's the head

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Speaker 1: of Bateman, the head of Marshall, and he tested really

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Speaker 1: well and he's a great player. To me, he's fifth receiver.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty three. The Jets take Greg Newsome. I would

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Speaker 1: would be the fourth cornerback on this on this board,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's twenty four. The Steelers take Nausea Harris. Okay,

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Speaker 1: much on who we've been lobbying before. I bet Mel's

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Speaker 1: got a birdie or two in his ear thinking that

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Speaker 1: that's a good fit in the line of teams tell

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Speaker 1: you what they think or what their what their intentions

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Speaker 1: are about what they don't do. The James Conner contract

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Speaker 1: yesterday May we should bring that up one year, one

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Speaker 1: point seven five million. It's not a ton of money.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers most certainly could have paid that, and they didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Blage got, but not you get

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Speaker 1: screaming from the rooftops. We're taking and running back early

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Speaker 1: James back and they weren't. I mean, they could have

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Speaker 1: done that in the heartbeat and still drafted somebody, right.

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Speaker 1: Arizona they have a first round pick, second round pick

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Speaker 1: Hopkins deals and the Hudson deals, they're done. So I

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Speaker 1: a Steeler draft running back with their first two pigs. Well,

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Speaker 1: interceptions in his career none. Wow, that would bother me

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Speaker 1: more if it was a big school. I was using Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I guess I guess that that doesn't count. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking people just didn't throw at him. But it's

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Speaker 1: a big enough school that you're not gonna hide, you know, right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two the Packers take Jackson Carmen mhm. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guard. I mean, but he's a masher. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they could use line help. Sixty three that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs gamble pays off and they get Walker Little. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that'd be great for them. Yeah, worth the risk, and

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Speaker 1: they could probably bring him a long slow enough. And

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Speaker 1: then at six the Buccaneers take Simi Fehoko, Oh, the

431
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Speaker 1: wide receiver at Stanford. Yeah, that's a surprise. Pick. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know about him until about a week or so ago.

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Speaker 1: I see some Chase Claypool there. Yeah, he is a big,

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Speaker 1: physical guy, and we mentioned this. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that is something the Buccaneers. I mean I don't either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the real brady Ish receiver. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking at the biggest strength of the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: their wide receivers. Drafted Johnson last year, who's pretty good.

439
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Speaker 1: And you know they got their other non stars Scotty Miller,

440
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Speaker 1: and you get yeah, Justin Watson at a South Fay

441
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Speaker 1: hat is. I promise you that he just wanted to

442
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Speaker 1: get that name on paper in the second round, so

443
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Speaker 1: we brought him up. And when he goes in the

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Speaker 1: second round, like Melson, pretty not where in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right now. But he's a big there's not many

446
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Speaker 1: of the big receivers, and he's not quite Claypool, but

447
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Speaker 1: he's in that mold. Athletically, he's not the He tested

448
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, yeah, but he's not quite Claypool, but

449
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Speaker 1: he's not quite as big. But he can run. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: I uh. I put out my final tight end rankings

451
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Speaker 1: today and I ended up going with just your ranks.

452
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Speaker 1: These are my regular and these are my rankings that

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Speaker 1: I put out on on I went with Pitts Friarmouth Tremble. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan at four hundred long at five umble is

455
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Speaker 1: a good player. I just think you know his blocking

456
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: to me, nasty is nasty, and he ran a four

457
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Speaker 1: or six of his pro day, Like I could see

458
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Speaker 1: even maybe ranking him ahead of farm With because you

459
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Speaker 1: don't know what. I have no idea how fast farm

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Speaker 1: withth is. And I've never seen him block, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there is a little stereotyping with with Friarmouth

462
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Speaker 1: that because he's big and physical and looks the part.

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Speaker 1: You think he's a highly accomplished inline blocker. They never

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Speaker 1: asked him to do it. He was I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: they never pass blocked. I mean he was like the

466
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Speaker 1: best receiver. Pass blocking was important for tightends, right you know. Yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: Mel has long seconds going off the board to which

468
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't think is crazy either. No, I think he

469
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: I think long. Here's the thing when when I see Pitts, Fiarmouth, Revend,

470
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Jordan and Hunter Long, those are what most teams are

471
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Speaker 1: looking for at the tight end position. Now. Yeah, although

472
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Jordan's helped us stock much, probably not

473
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Speaker 1: and and and maybe, but he is still a down

474
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: the scene depends what you want. Yeah, he's very much

475
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: like in Joku a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm

476
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Speaker 1: gonna get down the field, I'm gonna I'm gonna catch

477
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Speaker 1: sevent what you throw at me and put on my hands.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop some. But I'm a threat. He has

479
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: short arms and small hands out and he has a

480
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: lot of balls which leads you to the drops. But

481
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: he's a threat. I mean, he's somebody that you know

482
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Speaker 1: if you do we put a linebacker out there on him,

483
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: do we bring a safety down on you know, he's

484
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: a weapon like Drew Brees would love him because we

485
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Speaker 1: get him in stride and and'll be right here outside

486
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: the numbers and let him run with you know. But

487
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: to me, tremble, tremble, scream Steelers. He does the playing personality,

488
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: big school, ready to help immediately, special teams. That guy

489
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: scream special teams to me. I mean, I bet he

490
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: loves to run out on kickoffs and smack people, you

491
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He might he might race Claypool

492
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Speaker 1: down the field. He was notre Dame. Guy can get

493
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Speaker 1: the tackle first. I don't think I can use a

494
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Speaker 1: second rounder on him for the Steelers. That's the problem

495
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: where and he may not be for everybody. I mean,

496
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy with thirty four career catches, right,

497
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's the backup at Notre Dame, which he

498
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: was the backup to Cole Commit last year and then

499
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Speaker 1: Michael Myers this year. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say,

500
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Speaker 1: well he you know that. It's it's almost like the

501
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: bar More argument, Well he you know, he wasn't a

502
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: full time player at Alabama, but if he was at Missouri,

503
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: he would have been exactly. Yeah, I think Pitt would

504
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: have got him on the field, you know, probably would

505
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Speaker 1: have done that. Yes, yeah, I don't hold that against

506
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: him either. You know, if you're behind studs. That's the

507
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: thing people don't realize, excluding myself, is if there's a

508
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Speaker 1: super are who happens to be younger than you, you're

509
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: out of luck. It makes you look bad in the

510
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, the sort of draft knicks, you know, but

511
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: there's the coaching staff probably made promises of that kid

512
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Speaker 1: when they got him because he's the number one, you know,

513
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: tight end recruiting the country and oh yeah, you're gonna play.

514
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna get it every chance to start. And then

515
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's talented enough that he does. And that

516
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that the Tremble can't play. I mean

517
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Speaker 1: two years from now we might be sitting here talking

518
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: about Michael Myers, the killer from Halloween. It was that

519
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: way if you think back when uh in Iowa, Hawkinson

520
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: a fan, Yeah, well Hawkinson a fan. And then even

521
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: before that, kitt with when Kittle came out, they had

522
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: to that year in the draft and Kittle, I believe

523
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: it was the starter, but he wasn't the full time.

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00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't who he is because he didn't have a

525
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: lot of He blocked a lot. I don't know that

526
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: Friar movement. Isn't it Trembles the next Kittle? But there's

527
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: some traits. There's no I hear exactly what you're saying.

528
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, we'll be preview in the

529
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Speaker 1: draft for two thousand or two years from now talking

530
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: about Myers is gonna go in the top ten, you know,

531
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: like Hawkinson did. And Tremble was two years in the

532
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: league where he's caught you know, passes and as a

533
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: good player and you know, helping a team at a

534
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of ways, and it never comes up, you know, like, oh, yeah,

535
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: he was better than Tremble, But I mean he's better everybody.

536
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: He's more athletic than Comment was, and Comment was what

537
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: the second tight end taking last year first first taking

538
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: in the second in the second round draft round, right,

539
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, and he finished his rookie year pretty

540
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: strong and played well. Yeah, I think they like him. Yeah,

541
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: now I like your your call on Tremble. I'm warming

542
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: up a long even more and more too though, too even,

543
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: and I think you know again, I think the Steelers

544
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: are going to value a blocker there. Yeah. Um, I

545
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: think the guys that you look at after that are

546
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: you Banks out of Michigan. I don't know who number

547
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: six is, but I don't want him. Yeah, that's the thing.

548
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Uh, Dylan Soner at a Viowa state in

549
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Luke Farrell out of Ohio state. Those year, those your

550
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: late round guys that take them in the six or

551
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: seventh round, and they probably make your you know, push

552
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: Gentry off the roster, probably your number three. But then

553
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: you're still gonna have to sign a number two. And

554
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean maybe things like signing Vince Williams

555
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: implies that they're going to use a day to pick

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00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: on one of these tight ends. Potentially, maybe that's more

557
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: on the radar than we realize. Yeah, it's possible. It's possible,

558
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Speaker 1: especially you having to trade down get extra pick or

559
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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally.

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