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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
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Speaker 1: So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
Speaker 3: Miles Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Missing in Arizona. Please welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: It's Ben Bower.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, feels so good to be back.
Speaker 2: A little bit off kilter here, I was coming in
Speaker 2: at an eight point three out of ten. I thought
Speaker 2: I had a good Aka. I was gonna go with
Speaker 2: soup Gode because I thought that was like a nice things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought was a cool but then I got I
Speaker 2: got soup.
Speaker 3: Cooked, nothing cooked, and I made you watch me do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah too' ak it's all slow down, soup cold. I
Speaker 3: wasn't doing a super big steakcake.
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 3: What's your favorite soup band? For the record, because we
Speaker 3: are pro soup on the show. Despite what Jesse Waters
Speaker 3: has to say about eight out of ten things he
Speaker 3: says most of the time. But yeah, yeah, no, I've
Speaker 3: heard it. I've heard it.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I gotta be honest. I like a fuck,
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for being a dirt bag too. I'm
Speaker 2: a sucker for that that canned denty moore beef stew.
Speaker 1: Whoa you really fun legend?
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: Whenever I see that, I'm like, Yo, this is for
Speaker 3: somebody who's like a Civil War reenactor, but you're.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Really. Every time I see that label, it's like hunt
Speaker 3: because it's so it's I feel like that label has
Speaker 3: not changed and decades that whatever I see and I'm like,
Speaker 3: that has to be the same can I saw when
Speaker 3: I was like ten years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. The secret to Dancymore beef stew
Speaker 2: is it never goes bad because it never starts off good,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Because it never was beef stew. It's not.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's weird that they don't have air
Speaker 2: quotes around. Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh but yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: it's nostallgia. But I'll tell you, I loving if I
Speaker 2: actually made some I make a lot of like soup
Speaker 2: with the leftovers because I'm too cheap to you know,
Speaker 2: throw stuff out if.
Speaker 3: If it's all in salt water and make a soup. Baby,
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But man, I was listening to the recent episode with
Speaker 2: some strong opinions about soup. That's kind of been an
Speaker 2: ongoing theme and now in honor if you guys and
Speaker 2: Blake and your buddy from earlier, I'm not drinking with
Speaker 2: a straw.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, My buddy from earlier being Jesse Waters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your little friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, your boy, yo, Come get your boy, Jesse Waters.
Speaker 3: What I do want.
Speaker 1: To So on the last episode, we talked about how
Speaker 1: Jesse Water says it's not mainly to eat soup because
Speaker 1: you purs your lips when you blow on it.
Speaker 3: Not the way and not the way that I do.
Speaker 1: Miles pointed out that I just pour it onto a
Speaker 1: plate and then slide it back and.
Speaker 3: Burn myself with it like a real.
Speaker 1: But I was talking about how my mother in law
Speaker 1: who is now living with us as well as my
Speaker 1: father in law, and it's been wonderful, but she she's
Speaker 1: always complimented me for liking soup, and then the other
Speaker 1: but the other day was like, because it's very rare
Speaker 1: for a man.
Speaker 3: To like soup. Yeah, did you get to the bottom
Speaker 3: of that?
Speaker 1: So I mentioned it. She was like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw it on the ground. Nice and she was like,
Speaker 1: I saw you want to keep my name out of
Speaker 1: your mouth. She was very touch that we were talking
Speaker 1: about that, and she hit me over the weekend jack
Speaker 1: Korean proverb A man who likes soup will get a
Speaker 1: fortune and blessings from his wife.
Speaker 3: So whoa, Okay that's gonna be that's pretty good news.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Oh so for her, it's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: you a good man, You a good soup eating man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're a good basic ass soupy. You're a family, You're
Speaker 3: a family.
Speaker 1: You know what. I think the way it started is
Speaker 1: that it's like easy to make and so like by
Speaker 1: taking the pressure off and just letting put a soup
Speaker 1: on and let it boil, and you know.
Speaker 3: It's so gender normal. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The husband who
Speaker 3: cares not how much his wife hath toiled in kitchen
Speaker 3: shall receive blessings.
Speaker 1: Really, this is why I'm a fucking hero. I've been
Speaker 1: saying it for a long time.
Speaker 5: Everybody, you know, so lucky, My beautiful, brilliant wife is
Speaker 5: so oh you to have me because I like soup.
Speaker 2: I would also not to get too conspiratorial, but is
Speaker 2: it possible that your mother in law may have manufactured
Speaker 2: Korean proverb just to give you a win?
Speaker 1: She just sees me sadly eating soup, and she's like,
Speaker 1: this guy needs a fucking win. The way you eat
Speaker 1: soup is really good, and then like, it's so it's
Speaker 1: so sad that like the compliment she gives me completely
Speaker 1: made up. I talk about it on my podcast, God
Speaker 1: So Sad. Yeah, that's entirely possible. Sometimes sometimes your boy
Speaker 1: needs a win. And I'm not talking about Jesse Waters.
Speaker 1: So we do like to ask our guests what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay?
Speaker 6: I asked my search history. If one piece of cheese
Speaker 6: and a pack of slices Mazza relative cheeses has mold
Speaker 6: on it, does that make them all bad?
Speaker 1: Great question that has come up in my mind many
Speaker 1: times and that I have never I've never bothered to
Speaker 1: google it.
Speaker 3: I will tell you that much.
Speaker 1: I depending on how much I want the cheese, I
Speaker 1: will either throw the one piece away or throw the
Speaker 1: whole thing away. But it's totally dependent on like how
Speaker 1: bad I need cheese in that mine.
Speaker 7: I know I was going to say, it's dependent on
Speaker 7: like how much money is in your bank account at
Speaker 7: that ye. Yeah, it's like what I am able to
Speaker 7: throw a whole pack of cheese away. It's like you
Speaker 7: don't care about your bank account, your neighbor's bank accounts.
Speaker 7: No one cares. But like if you're like, oh, I
Speaker 7: can just eat around it on this slice, like I
Speaker 7: can just cut out the bad part of this slice,
Speaker 7: then you're like, you're down bad. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: So you're taking just the mold off the one slice?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I mean gets to that point, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean smell test obviously, right, we're using the smell test.
Speaker 1: If all the cheese smell bad, were.
Speaker 7: Probably victors asking if they're individually wrapped, And I'm sorry, Victory,
Speaker 7: that's a different tax bracket than what we're talking about.
Speaker 7: If your chesus individually wrapped.
Speaker 6: Talking about craft singles, Victor, So now I understand what craft.
Speaker 7: We're talking about. If it's hot, it's melting together into
Speaker 7: one big.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: I mean, typically I do the partner test where I
Speaker 6: give it to my husband and watch him eat it
Speaker 6: and just stare.
Speaker 1: At him for a while, just put him under a
Speaker 1: round the clock observation for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 7: That's what husbands are for. My dad would always eat
Speaker 7: the leftover bad stuff.
Speaker 3: Up.
Speaker 7: We'd be like I don't want it. I don't want it, mom,
Speaker 7: and he'd be like, Okay, give it to me, fine, baby.
Speaker 7: So I had to be like super for sure, for sure, Yeah, no,
Speaker 7: we can take it.
Speaker 3: We can take a little bit of I will.
Speaker 7: Say I haven't told especially for like bread, the spores
Speaker 7: spread and you should toss it. But I'm also a
Speaker 7: big fan of like eating questionable stuff and then wondering
Speaker 7: if I have IBS for the rest of my life.
Speaker 7: So I'm a huge fan of that.
Speaker 1: Then you have something to blame your IBS on besides
Speaker 1: just your anxiety.
Speaker 7: Hot girl, And that's why I have IBS and not.
Speaker 7: I just like, don't pay attention to the mold in
Speaker 7: my bread.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: We just rushed past, Like did Google have a satisfying
Speaker 1: answer of on this question?
Speaker 6: It actually said everything that you guys just said. It
Speaker 6: said you can either discard the moldy slice.
Speaker 3: It was thanks Google. I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 6: I wasted gallons of water.
Speaker 7: You're throwing away gallons of water to figure out if
Speaker 7: you should throw away a slice of cheese.
Speaker 1: You definitely don't need to throw away craft, Like if
Speaker 1: one gets moldy, you don't have to throw away.
Speaker 6: The We're not talking about craft singles here. We're talking
Speaker 6: about whole foods.
Speaker 7: Organic.
Speaker 3: Singles.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, sorry, sorry, I'm aware.
Speaker 7: Of You're like, I don't understand what's other cheese?
Speaker 3: What is something you think is underrated? Alison?
Speaker 8: I think I think hats as a show of femininity
Speaker 8: is underrated. I think fems wearing hats is underrated. Why
Speaker 8: did I immediately go to like church lady hats? I
Speaker 8: feel like that is very Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah no, I mean like like I.
Speaker 8: Have like bucket, like these buckets, but just like like
Speaker 8: a camp cap.
Speaker 3: Yeah what do you call that? Justin a six panel
Speaker 3: ave and we call it a camp hat? I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, wait, So what about uh what about the
Speaker 3: trend of like big brown felt hats, that that was
Speaker 3: a trend?
Speaker 9: I was grown felt hats. I don't even know that people.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not like the Pharrell Vivian Westwood gigantic
Speaker 3: hat but like, you know, how like you see those
Speaker 3: like pumpkin spice latte type fall white women photos and
Speaker 3: everybody got like the big felt brown like you know,
Speaker 3: the big brown brimmed hat.
Speaker 7: Yeah, cowboy hat yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Coast Christian Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: yeah exactly base dope. Did you ever wear backwards?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: But I like to wear to consider it, I was like,
Speaker 7: how far are we going?
Speaker 9: I've never Yeah.
Speaker 8: The lesbian in me was like, it's not practical to
Speaker 8: wear it backwards, because then how am I getting the shade?
Speaker 3: You know? That's not what?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah I would wear it backwards.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just for the record, just want to
Speaker 3: get everything her miles.
Speaker 9: Yeah here agenda.
Speaker 7: Rock like this to sh like I would do Fresh Prince.
Speaker 8: It's like, I'm gay, but I'm not gay.
Speaker 7: I'm gay, but I'm not nineties derogatory gay.
Speaker 1: Yeah you.
Speaker 9: Gay?
Speaker 3: What mcley is something that you think is overrated?
Speaker 11: Matching socks? Nobody sees them. You don't have to match
Speaker 11: your socks. It's all good. Just pick any sock from
Speaker 11: the sock drawer and go on with your day. I like,
Speaker 11: I never match I never matched my socks.
Speaker 1: How different are we talking? Like different colors, just different
Speaker 1: different of socks. Like do you have one dress sock
Speaker 1: one sweat sock?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 11: Yeah, but what you don't match is like or what
Speaker 11: you like. Even if the colors and styles don't match,
Speaker 11: the lengths have to match. So it'll annoy me if
Speaker 11: it's like one really short sock one longer sock, So
Speaker 11: I have to match the lengths. But that's it.
Speaker 4: There's still something, there's still something you can't You're not
Speaker 4: you're not full chaos.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was thinking of like an ankle sock
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 3: A big dress sock. That might be, that might be tough.
Speaker 4: I did that the other day, and I gotta tell you,
Speaker 4: it may be so uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: You have unmatched and genuinely.
Speaker 4: Because so many, such a high percentage of my socks
Speaker 4: are just Costco socks. So it was medium gray and
Speaker 4: light gray, and I was like, everyone can tell, everybody knows.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows about the secret shame happening under my shoe, right,
Speaker 1: so stupid.
Speaker 4: I understand I'm deeply stupid, and you are correct, but wow,
Speaker 4: it really I could barely handle it the whole time,
Speaker 4: just white knuckling it through my day, like, no one's
Speaker 4: looking at my ankles.
Speaker 1: Right, So is your sock drawer like are at the
Speaker 1: laundry stage? Are you not even trying to match? Is
Speaker 1: it just like a salad of different individual socks.
Speaker 11: It's it's a it's a salad, it's a soupo pourri,
Speaker 11: it's a it's.
Speaker 3: All of the above.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, no, there's nothing nothing, there's no effort goes
Speaker 11: into matching it.
Speaker 3: It sounds liberating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this really will shave. This is a good like
Speaker 4: life hack. This will shave so much time to save
Speaker 4: your grind.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have socks that like half of my children's
Speaker 1: sock drawer is just like unmatched socks that I've like
Speaker 1: kind of given up on. Those are so little, though,
Speaker 1: children's socks are so small, and they I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: they get sucked into. And I think I've said this
Speaker 1: before on the show and Miles was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? You sound crazy, man, this idea that
Speaker 1: socks get like sucked into like an intake in the
Speaker 1: washing machine. But then I've had people like kind of
Speaker 1: back me up that that can happen, and that like
Speaker 1: there's especially small children's socks we'll just get inhaled by
Speaker 1: laundry machines.
Speaker 11: There was this episode of The Family Guy that I saw,
Speaker 11: probably like I don't know, twenty years ago, where the
Speaker 11: back of the laundry machine is Narnia with like a
Speaker 11: half fond half you know, human creature taking single socks
Speaker 11: into the abyss. And so anyway, with the children's socks
Speaker 11: about really little ones, I completely agree, like there's just
Speaker 11: there's no way, Like I buy socks like every other
Speaker 11: week because where did they all go? So I don't
Speaker 11: match them for myself, but I do match them for
Speaker 11: my child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're I'm the opposite because I'm a narcissistant
Speaker 1: and I don't care what they look like.
Speaker 3: My children are.
Speaker 1: Very sensitive about their socks. They're like they don't first
Speaker 1: of all, they don't like to wear them if they're
Speaker 1: even like if they've been wearing them for like an
Speaker 1: hour and then come back in the house, they want
Speaker 1: them off immediately because they're like they're dirty, now get
Speaker 1: them off of me. So very so the sock regimen
Speaker 1: has to be disciplined in my household with these little fuckers.
Speaker 3: Now, how often have I said that?
Speaker 1: Under my back? All Right, let's uh, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and we'll keep talking
Speaker 1: about the debate on Tuesday night?
Speaker 3: Was that already Tuesday? All right, we'll be right.
Speaker 1: And we're back. My voice just want a little Chewbacca there, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: little little which is kind of interesting because it a
Speaker 1: little wooky, a little wacky, a little chewbaccay, a little cisquatch.
Speaker 3: All right, So I.
Speaker 1: Just want to get this the way, okay, me outside
Speaker 1: the I have generally so you cover conspiracy theories on
Speaker 1: your podcast stuff they don't want you to know. A
Speaker 1: type of conspiracy theory that has generally turned my brain
Speaker 1: into the off position, into the not listening mute position,
Speaker 1: has been anything involving cryptozoology, the study of like mythical
Speaker 1: animals that people wish existed or like are really convinced exists,
Speaker 1: such as sasquatch. I still remember there was a live
Speaker 1: episode of the Cracked podcast around Halloween. We were doing
Speaker 1: like tell us your Spookyest Story, and friend of the show,
Speaker 1: Ryan Singer, who is a very funny comedian and also
Speaker 1: like into all manners of like trippy shit, came on
Speaker 1: and he like had my ass. He was telling me
Speaker 1: this story about like people disappearing in state parks, and
Speaker 1: he was like plotting it out on maps, and he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, telling the story. And then he
Speaker 1: got to the like what was clearly the climax, and
Speaker 1: I was like, where is this going to go?
Speaker 3: How do I not know about this?
Speaker 1: And he was like, and before the people disappeared, everyone
Speaker 1: in the area reported smelling ammonia, which is often associated
Speaker 1: with bigfoots. And I was immediately like a fucking balloon deflating.
Speaker 1: I was just like, come on. But then he like
Speaker 1: talked about it. I kind of was on board, but
Speaker 1: it takes a lot for me to like get the
Speaker 1: whole sasquatch thing. But it's definitely like it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: There's a new indie film, Sasquatch Sunset that's getting a
Speaker 1: lot of attention with Jesse Eisenberg and Riley Keo, who
Speaker 1: are like indie darlings, you know, Like it's it's entered
Speaker 1: the culture from like reality TV and you know, mainstream
Speaker 1: silliness like Harry and the Henderson's. But like now it's
Speaker 1: like getting into like the like this is hip and
Speaker 1: cool and interesting because like you know, I'm like let's
Speaker 1: give it another look.
Speaker 3: Well, there's even today right, like there's like news because
Speaker 3: some janky coin like making company has just launched the
Speaker 3: Bigfoot Discovery coin, Like that's still a thing today. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: launch it now on Monday. So on Monday, September ninth,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, on over the weekend, there was Louisiana
Speaker 3: had their very first Louisiana Bigfoot Festival. Because now it
Speaker 3: seems like rather than it being mostly like a Northwestern phenomenon,
Speaker 3: like it's we're seeing it in the Bayou and in
Speaker 3: the South bast there's a swampy oh yeah, and that
Speaker 3: is James combed out there when he forgot laundry. That's
Speaker 3: that's a real that's a real Bigfoot. And you know,
Speaker 3: like Expedition Bigfoot had a new season just dropped like
Speaker 3: this like in this last month. It does not go away.
Speaker 3: And I too, like Jack, because I see it a
Speaker 3: lot on like the internet, even like on Reddit, there's
Speaker 3: always like some new Bigfoot thing. I'm like, come on, y'all,
Speaker 3: like really, come on, what is it? What? What the why? Why?
Speaker 3: Where is the poop?
Speaker 2: Just critically, where is like for an animal of that
Speaker 2: size or primate of that size, Where where is the poop?
Speaker 2: The uh? We know for a fact, Just to back
Speaker 2: this up, we know for a fact. Cryptozoology often considered
Speaker 2: a pseudoscience. But part of the reason things considered cryptids
Speaker 2: do later enter into the scientific record is because Western
Speaker 2: scientists got stuff wrong and they rocked up, you know,
Speaker 2: just hey, stranger in town, like we said, and they said,
Speaker 2: ooh the celia long thought to be extinct for millions
Speaker 2: of years. Look at you tear in the heart of
Speaker 2: the jungle and then and.
Speaker 1: Do appreciate you now speaking in your regular voice, stopping
Speaker 1: the yea from our modern era and from America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm merely a British observer of your American Civil War,
Speaker 3: the chaotic. Oh you're a British Civil War Okay, got it, you.
Speaker 2: Didn't Yeah, yeah, yeah, small demographic.
Speaker 3: The steal secrets came from England to be oh, I'm
Speaker 3: watching this this is you know.
Speaker 1: They did used to watch it as a spectator sport,
Speaker 1: the civil nicks and like just watch the battlefield.
Speaker 2: So maybe mass media has saved us from society.
Speaker 3: Ship.
Speaker 2: But uh, but yes, like the like the Ceilcanth is
Speaker 2: a great example thought extinct by Western science, and then
Speaker 2: when it was quote unquote rediscovered, everybody living in that
Speaker 2: fucking area of the world was like, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: the ugly fish. It's been there forever. It's just we
Speaker 2: don't eat it. It doesn't taste good either. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you guys are making a big deal.
Speaker 3: How would what do you call it?
Speaker 1: The ceiling, the ceiling can, ceiling fan ceiling. I did
Speaker 1: write ceiling fan in and I was like, what's he
Speaker 1: talking about? Ceiling fans?
Speaker 3: Fish? It's a code phrase se c e l C
Speaker 3: O E l A c A n t H.
Speaker 2: And you know, no judgment, it's just not the prettiest fish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like it looks like like like an
Speaker 3: old dog that's got like you know, skin tags and stuff.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, but that's like the fish, Like this
Speaker 3: is this thing exactly.
Speaker 2: And so that kind of stuff informs what people think
Speaker 2: about with crypto zoology, Like everybody everybody wants to have
Speaker 2: some sort of encounter with the wild, right, everybody wants
Speaker 2: to be Promethean. Like I found the thing. It was rumor, uh,
Speaker 2: And I think to the question about why bigfoot is
Speaker 2: so fascinating to people, it's really we're talking about this
Speaker 2: ancient preoccupation that a lot of civilizations had with the
Speaker 2: idea of something that is almost but not quite us.
Speaker 2: We don't know if human beings ever met at actual
Speaker 2: Gigantapithecus was the largest primate. It's ten feet tall, weighed
Speaker 2: over five hundred pounds projected. So it's maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's very controversial, but it's like maybe possible that some
Speaker 2: version of humans ran into that and that made the
Speaker 2: game of telephone. But I would suggest to you guys
Speaker 2: that the reason people are so invested in this bigfoot
Speaker 2: thing is because it's one a way to explain things right.
Speaker 2: Two it is tantalizing because the way that the argument
Speaker 2: is constructed, just like UFO arguments, never really delivers, right,
Speaker 2: Or like what's that show? The Oak Island money Pit,
Speaker 2: the brand like five thousand seasons. They always found something
Speaker 2: that could be something.
Speaker 1: So I think the longer it doesn't deliver, the more
Speaker 1: strength and the more intrigue it gets because you never
Speaker 1: get a satisfying resolution, and so it just builds and builds.
Speaker 1: It's like a JJ Abrams show, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, So like I talked to extensively talk to people
Speaker 2: who are in that community, and they're very for the
Speaker 2: most part, very kind, you know, and they're not they're
Speaker 2: not getting mad at me if I ask what I
Speaker 2: feel are logical questions like, Okay, if there's a primate
Speaker 2: this size, and assuming it's a primate, right, then where
Speaker 2: if it is if a good comp is like a gorilla,
Speaker 2: then where's the bigfoot nest? Where do they sleep? What's
Speaker 2: their territory, what's their range?
Speaker 3: Subscriber?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are their subscriptions? What are their Star Wars names?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, I like the Sasquatch Sunset I read like a
Speaker 1: brief plot synopsis, and it feels like the Sasquatch in
Speaker 1: that film are like fairly like. They don't seem very
Speaker 1: advanced in their like reasoning, which I feel like any
Speaker 1: version of Bigfoot would have to be for it to
Speaker 1: have like stayed off grid this lines would have to
Speaker 1: have at least invented poop bags, real sleeper poof Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's a great point
Speaker 2: because also, all right, so I did ask people about
Speaker 2: the poop right, and admittedly I was a little overly
Speaker 2: diplomatic about it. I was saying, well, you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of our listeners in the crowd tonight are probably
Speaker 2: gonna wonder. And every time I asked this, I would
Speaker 2: get really good energy back that people would say, like
Speaker 2: one guy who started a museum here in l a j, Georgia,
Speaker 2: well it doesn't matter, just believe me. It's a real
Speaker 2: place and the Yeah. I asked him about the poop
Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, that's a great question. Ben. Here's
Speaker 2: what I think. M what if they're extra dimensional?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, immediately that's the way where it goes.
Speaker 3: Change the goalposts. Yeah, yeah, they don't poop, bro, they
Speaker 3: poop in another dimension.
Speaker 2: They do that poop in their dimension, in a pocket
Speaker 2: poop dimension.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, just so quickly, just reflexively. They
Speaker 3: might be interdimensional. I always thought the reason why Americans
Speaker 3: had an obsession with Bigfoot was the decline of the
Speaker 3: white working class. Now is there is there anything to that?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: That was like I was reading this article about this
Speaker 3: guy who wrote a book, and like, apparently it comes
Speaker 3: up a lot, but in a way where people are like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this guy talking about it? Like
Speaker 3: is it They're saying, it's a lot of dudes who
Speaker 3: like just sort of like yearn for the past and
Speaker 3: being out and like camping and stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like it sounds like
Speaker 3: people who have enough money to go camping for long
Speaker 3: periods with infrared gear probably aren't the kind of working
Speaker 3: class people that they might be yearning for. But that
Speaker 3: is interesting.
Speaker 1: It started in like the Pacific Northwest around the same
Speaker 1: time that like grunge was being created because of the
Speaker 1: like collapse of the middle class there, and now it's
Speaker 1: like moving down to the rust belt. There's that's an
Speaker 1: interesting theory. I don't know exactly how this.
Speaker 3: Author was not articulating it in that kind of way.
Speaker 3: It felt very like maga adjacent like coment, like yeah,
Speaker 3: because like white working men are just like the villain.
Speaker 3: Now that's why we like okay okay. I feel like
Speaker 3: it could have been maybe a little bit more nuanced,
Speaker 3: but the take felt a little bit all over it.
Speaker 2: There is a sociological aspect, right, because we're talking about
Speaker 2: communities of people who believe in or are somehow taken
Speaker 2: with a certain idea. And it's interesting too. You see
Speaker 2: it sometimes in recent UFO discourse. Right, there is an
Speaker 2: underlying sociological factor like a lot of this stuff kind
Speaker 2: of trends to the right wing, to the political spectrum,
Speaker 2: and so I think there's a validity to the idea
Speaker 2: that people are looking back with the rose colored glasses
Speaker 2: on maybe in America that didn't exist, you know, just
Speaker 2: sort of this rock wallized version of days past, and
Speaker 2: they're thinking, yeah, back then, you could just go out
Speaker 2: in the wild, you know, just right can of soup
Speaker 2: in a dream, see some wild animals.
Speaker 3: That like John Muorish version of conservation where it's like,
Speaker 3: don't let native people sully the view. This is just
Speaker 3: for our white gaze to cast them on untouched beauty,
Speaker 3: and that's the old times we yearned for. I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I would love to see a big foot. But they're
Speaker 3: the least of all the cryptids. I think they're the
Speaker 3: least that's the least interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of like the vanilla ice cream, I guess, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: But the the interesting thing here for anybody who is hoping,
Speaker 2: you know, like I would assume, like all of us
Speaker 2: hoping to one day see something cool. How awesome would
Speaker 2: it be for a large animal to be discovered in
Speaker 2: our lifetime? This is one of the moments in history
Speaker 2: where it's more likely than it has been at most
Speaker 2: times in the past, just because human beings are encroaching
Speaker 2: so much in the places that human beings didn't used
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 3: So even you sound like a guy who's like starting
Speaker 3: off to like sell me on a bigfoot tours. Like,
Speaker 3: but here's the thing, if we were ever gonna see one,
Speaker 3: the time is now, because we'd now look, yeah, how
Speaker 3: much money you got like three hundred dollars, Well, that's
Speaker 3: exactly what my tour costs. Man, you're in, let's load up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think so. In doing additional research
Speaker 1: to the like state parks mystery, the answer seems to
Speaker 1: be that state parks and just generally the world is
Speaker 1: much larger than people can possibly like realize, and so
Speaker 1: people just wander off a trail and get way more
Speaker 1: loss than they thought possible in a really short amount
Speaker 1: of time because the state parks are just like endless
Speaker 1: and very untamed, and we as modern people are not
Speaker 1: used to that sort of thing, and so they just
Speaker 1: wander off and never find their way back.
Speaker 2: There's no federal uh, there's no single federal compilation federal
Speaker 2: level agency counting disappearances, which which means, yeah, it can
Speaker 2: be quite a few people year over year, But it
Speaker 2: also means since that kind of agency doesn't exist, there's
Speaker 2: no one counting the reappearances. Sure, the guy's like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: I got kind of stoned. It was my first time camping. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm two days late, but I'm back, you know, now,
Speaker 2: it's just a disappearance.
Speaker 3: I had a one hundred milligram edible like at the trailhead,
Speaker 3: and I was just actually asleep about four hundred yards in.
Speaker 1: But I do think that's the That is one of
Speaker 1: the good arguments for how something like this could happen
Speaker 1: is how little of like how massive the world is, yes,
Speaker 1: and also how little of that we've actually officially like
Speaker 1: documented and explored. Right, there's obviously the ocean. There's like
Speaker 1: famous quotes about how little of the ocean is known,
Speaker 1: and but I mean it's true of a lot of wilderness,
Speaker 1: like it weren't wasn't the platypus thought to be a
Speaker 1: crypto a cryptid for a long time.
Speaker 2: All right, said with great affection, you guys, I love animals.
Speaker 2: The platypus looks so funny. Not to be rude, but
Speaker 2: I see it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you still don't believe it.
Speaker 2: How the fuck did you get here, buddy? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I hacked this thing together?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think that's another part of
Speaker 2: it too. A lot of times now that people live
Speaker 2: in increasingly in conturbations, we're not around the natural world.
Speaker 2: A lot of times, we're less familiar with the other
Speaker 2: things living out there. So you're already in an unfamiliar situation.
Speaker 2: You hear a in the trees, and then you hear
Speaker 2: some noise you've never heard before, and it's like, what
Speaker 2: you're not going to know? You're not going to be like, ah, yes,
Speaker 2: that's clearly that was me.
Speaker 3: Actually my bad. I mean.
Speaker 1: And also that is like when you think about the
Speaker 1: things that nature has invented that seemed completely made up,
Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing that fails to grab me
Speaker 1: about the sasquatches, Like, oh we have those right, Like
Speaker 1: we have big giant apes who can like speak in
Speaker 1: sign language, Like we have things that seem like they
Speaker 1: were made up by a child. We have giant squid. Yes,
Speaker 1: for a long time people were fascinated by that as
Speaker 1: like one of the main you know, cryptids and then
Speaker 1: once we discovered it was real, we were like, all right,
Speaker 1: fuck off, moving on.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about how how weird? I mean, you're right,
Speaker 2: the natural world is full of all these crazy evolutionary
Speaker 2: mixtapes that attempt to solve problems the past that may
Speaker 2: not be as applicable today. Like a giraffe, that's a
Speaker 2: very specific thing. You know, a lot of insects in
Speaker 2: the relationship with plants. I feel like, if you are
Speaker 2: looking at crypto cryptid type biology, if you are frightened
Speaker 2: for some reason the idea of a large undiscovered animal,
Speaker 2: you should be much more frightened of fungus because that
Speaker 2: stuff is. That stuff's amazing and scary. That's the HBO
Speaker 2: Lovecraft stuff.
Speaker 3: Bro, you don't got to tell me, Bro, I saw
Speaker 3: Last of Us right right, cordisps.
Speaker 2: I apologize if this feels like it's old hat, but
Speaker 2: every time, so, like, what do you guys think about zoos?
Speaker 2: Do you think they're important for conversation conservation? Do you
Speaker 2: think it's more like an animal jail? What's where on
Speaker 2: the spectrumrim.
Speaker 1: Guys, I think they're fun, and I won't admit that
Speaker 1: because I don't want people to yell at me.
Speaker 3: I think they're animal jails, and I think animal jails
Speaker 3: are cool. How about that? I I'll stand on that.
Speaker 3: I mean I think as I got old, I think
Speaker 3: the thing is like there's some like you know, like
Speaker 3: in San Diego there's like way more space and like
Speaker 3: there's sort of safari area. But like when I've been
Speaker 3: to like urban zoos, like there's a zoo in Tokyo
Speaker 3: where like these fuckers look so sad. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 3: this is not a zoo. This motherfucker is rotting in
Speaker 3: a concrete cell for for babies to just smear their
Speaker 3: hands all over the plexiglass and then move on like that.
Speaker 3: I definitely like so in a way, I like that
Speaker 3: there is a place to observe animals, but the way
Speaker 3: that it's done, it's like, uh yeah that is there
Speaker 3: is there a more humane way, like a way that
Speaker 3: doesn't bum me the fuck out, like just so on
Speaker 3: its face. Like when I go there, I think you
Speaker 3: know I'm talking about I'm talking about the one in
Speaker 3: uh Weno Park.
Speaker 2: Don't love it. I was excited to go and I
Speaker 2: walked out thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a rough, But I bring up the
Speaker 2: zoo question, because you know, one of the great conspiracies
Speaker 2: about cryptis you run into, especially with the bigfoot stuff,
Speaker 2: is people saying insert cabal here is covering up the knowledge.
Speaker 2: You know, what's the Smithsonian doing with all the bones?
Speaker 2: I assure you, folks, if the Smithsonian had a ghost
Speaker 2: of a chance having any real thing like proof of
Speaker 2: a contemporaneous Bigfoot, it would be fucking all over the
Speaker 2: place with it. You couldn't get away from it. It
Speaker 2: would be like the it would tour the nation in
Speaker 2: the world. They would sequence the DNA and try to
Speaker 2: make a big foot shot her community, and we would
Speaker 2: be some of the first people there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, have you met someone who has
Speaker 3: like a specialized interest like that, like an archaeology or
Speaker 3: zoology or something. Those people love to share. Like their
Speaker 3: whole thing is wanting more people to be interested in
Speaker 3: what they do. They're not going to keep secrets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just about the thing that could really bring a
Speaker 3: lot of interests. To shut the funk up with you,
Speaker 3: you're not doing that ship.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick break and then I
Speaker 1: do want to check in with you real quick about
Speaker 1: the aliens.
Speaker 3: Will be right back, and we're back. Paula. It's time
Speaker 3: for you to do battle with your arch nemesis. Rachel.
Speaker 3: Got so much akay Gun, ray Gun.
Speaker 7: You can't believe you're you're platforming someone so problematic.
Speaker 3: How I love the platform break dances. I just I
Speaker 3: think it's a great ote.
Speaker 7: I think I should take a walk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, take a walk about. Went to Ularu, I went,
Speaker 3: I breaked. I broke dance all the way to Ularu.
Speaker 7: Wait, you're too good at that. I'm scared a big rock.
Speaker 3: I've never been to Australia, but I always hear people
Speaker 3: talk about Ulu take a big rock or some ship
Speaker 3: Ausie's Gang. Please correct me, but anyway, the breakout star
Speaker 3: of the Paris Olympics, ray Gun the breakdance, as we remember,
Speaker 3: failed to score a single point in the breaking competition,
Speaker 3: but she's currently the highest ranked breakdancer in the world.
Speaker 3: That's because she won the quote Quote won the gold
Speaker 3: medal at the twenty twenty three w d SF Oceania Championships.
Speaker 3: It's like a regional So the wd SF is the
Speaker 3: World Dance Sport Federation, which is the governing body. Game.
Speaker 7: It was everyone else sick, like when I.
Speaker 3: Know I'm always I mean, this this story was always
Speaker 3: like odd because I remember at the time people were
Speaker 3: like how dare she And other times I'm like, how
Speaker 3: dare them putting her up there? Like she's pretty out
Speaker 3: of sorts to be like, I didn't. I didn't see
Speaker 3: it necessarily, like as nefarious of a plot in terms
Speaker 3: of just seeing how you know, like white people are
Speaker 3: able to fail upward quite easily. But I didn't necessarily
Speaker 3: see her as like trying to be like and I'm
Speaker 3: representing break. I mean, her life is terrible. It sounds
Speaker 3: like now. But all that to say because she won
Speaker 3: like this qualifying competition. She got one thousand ranking points
Speaker 3: and that's secured her spot in Paris. But other qualifying
Speaker 3: events and the Paris Games themselves do not factor into
Speaker 3: these rankings apparently, and that is by design so that
Speaker 3: athletes can focus solely on the Olympic qualification without stressing
Speaker 3: out over rankings. So basically what's happened was like within
Speaker 3: because she won this qualifier within the last year, and
Speaker 3: there weren't other like sort of measurable or like ranked
Speaker 3: events that happened since then. Even the people who won gold,
Speaker 3: they weren't in events that would actually count towards this ranking.
Speaker 3: So all that to say is this is only because
Speaker 3: like of the timing of her last win, it just
Speaker 3: has she just has more points on the board. That's
Speaker 3: all going to change in October.
Speaker 7: Did she do that intentionally?
Speaker 3: No, then it's just the timing of the rank, like
Speaker 3: that's just when that event.
Speaker 7: No, but I mean was she like, oh, like, no,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go if I win. Is that why she entered?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, No.
Speaker 9: Do we know what Allison Stoner thinks of all this?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Yeah, I would Elliot videos Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: or like.
Speaker 9: Was it you got you Got Served?
Speaker 10: That series of movies she was in the later on
Speaker 10: maybe she was was she was like she was she
Speaker 10: was a little sister. She was in the steps Up,
Speaker 10: That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, you got served.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's like a whole dance Yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: I watched all of them, all the step ups. I
Speaker 7: watched all the dance because I was I used to dance,
Speaker 7: and I was.
Speaker 9: Like, did you ever get Darren's dance grooves? I did
Speaker 9: not get grooves.
Speaker 3: This was and took me back my.
Speaker 8: Sister loved like in Sync and Backstreet poison, like knew
Speaker 8: all the dances and stuff, and she the oldest, so
Speaker 8: like the rest of us kind of like fell in
Speaker 8: line behind her. Yeah, brother got Darren's dance grooves and
Speaker 8: he was the choreographer for all of those like big pop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Bye Bye Bye. I remember that was like
Speaker 3: the way they were selling it. They're like, you want
Speaker 3: to be able to do the bye Bye Bye choreography,
Speaker 3: we'll get checked out dance group. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so like again, it's just the it's like
Speaker 3: it's merely like that's why like this the organization's coming out.
Speaker 3: They're like, look, it's just because these other people's qualifiers.
Speaker 3: It's been over a year, so those points don't count.
Speaker 3: The clock is going to reset come October when we
Speaker 3: have another official event. But you know, we'll see. Who knows.
Speaker 3: She might come out. She might come out with some
Speaker 3: new moves, you know what I mean. She might do
Speaker 3: she might do push ups up there.
Speaker 8: She like actually a bad dancer. You were saying she's
Speaker 8: a performance artist, and I keep hearing different things.
Speaker 3: No, I say that flippantly. She is a performance I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: My dead pant sometimes sounds like I'm being serious, but no,
Speaker 3: she she's just like she's.
Speaker 7: Like she's just like she's an academic like studied it.
Speaker 7: Like yeah, she was like some sort of like professor
Speaker 7: or something, and she's like thirty six and she she
Speaker 7: like has studied it academically.
Speaker 3: But you're in the Department of Media Communications, Creative Arts,
Speaker 3: Language and Literature at Jesus Macquarie University, a faculty of.
Speaker 9: Arts, and smart people can be dumb. So that gives
Speaker 9: me hope. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3: It's like anybody, look, smart people can be dumb. Smart
Speaker 3: people can be.
Speaker 7: Dumb people to be smart exactly, Okay, loopholes O was
Speaker 7: gonna say, I'm so silly. I was gonna say, like
Speaker 7: her her husband was like her coach or something, right, yeah,
Speaker 7: or there was some like he also break dances and
Speaker 7: I saw like a super clip of him break dancing
Speaker 7: and they were like, uh, they played is somebody to
Speaker 7: match my freak over it? And he was just also awful.
Speaker 7: Maybe it was I don't know. They were like maybe
Speaker 7: he was having like these moments and they just captured those.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will if you read this story right.
Speaker 3: Her husband is the one who encouraged her to get
Speaker 3: into break dancing and must be awful. It's always away.
Speaker 3: They can't even dance. They can't even dance.
Speaker 8: I would like to see them battle a toddler like
Speaker 8: dance battle, because I feels all have the same like
Speaker 8: they're just they're just even at the knees.
Speaker 7: There are some like actual like not toddlers, but like
Speaker 7: like five year olds that are actually like insanely good
Speaker 7: at break dancing because they're so their cetera of gravity
Speaker 7: is so low, so they can do like a lot
Speaker 7: more stuff than like if they were in their adults.
Speaker 9: Physics behind your.
Speaker 3: Makes perfect specimen to commit your life to this. That's
Speaker 3: how you must be a breakdancer. But yeah, I like,
Speaker 3: you know she like apparently she did though pause her
Speaker 3: breakdancing career to complete her PhD, so she'd do like, look,
Speaker 3: let's let's not I guess we should call her doctor
Speaker 3: ray Gun at this point. But yeah, she will probably
Speaker 3: be completely wiped off the rankings once they have another
Speaker 3: event where you actually have to be a breakdancer to win,
Speaker 3: because my god, what we saw was not great. So look,
Speaker 3: worry not be boys, b girls, It's okay. You know,
Speaker 3: ray Gun is not out here actually being number one ranked. Okay, anyway, now,
Speaker 3: I guess we should talk about sick days because I
Speaker 3: don't have what's your polity? I know you're younger than
Speaker 3: I think is everybody you am? I the oldest one.
Speaker 3: You just want to check everyone's work habits. Were you
Speaker 3: were you sick day users or sick days? Like, I
Speaker 3: think they're gonna think I'm lazy and they're gonna fire me.
Speaker 7: When I was in science, I would be like I
Speaker 7: would sleep in the lab and they would think it
Speaker 7: was cool if you smell bad and wore the same
Speaker 7: clothes as the day before, because it meant you were
Speaker 7: working harder.
Speaker 9: But if you were a.
Speaker 7: Lady who wore makeup, well that's just weird because why
Speaker 7: do you have time to do makeup and look nice.
Speaker 7: Shouldn't you be working?
Speaker 3: Shouldn't you be looking at this microscope?
Speaker 9: No one's got fired for taking a sick day?
Speaker 7: What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Isn't that literally illegal?
Speaker 9: It's literally illegal. I was a temp so I think
Speaker 9: it was like they had a way around it, you know.
Speaker 3: But I like and that legally you don't have a
Speaker 3: sick day, and that legally.
Speaker 9: You don't have a sick day.
Speaker 8: But like I was saying, I was like living in
Speaker 8: Chicago and it was also like one of the like
Speaker 8: coldest winters at the time, and I was like, I'm sick.
Speaker 8: It's horrifyingly cold. I need to stay home. And they
Speaker 8: were like, you're we're done, You're fired.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, apparently sick leave in the United States has gone
Speaker 3: up fifty five percent in twenty twenty three, and it's
Speaker 3: only been going up compared to twenty nineteen. And the
Speaker 3: people under the age of thirty five are just driving
Speaker 3: this trend. And it's not because there's an affliction that
Speaker 3: only affects young people, where the older people are are
Speaker 3: left free to work constantly. But there are a few reasons.
Speaker 3: So the pandemic a obviously changed the way everyone feels
Speaker 3: about motherfuckers showing up at work sick, because I remember
Speaker 3: back in the day be like, oh, you're sick, all right,
Speaker 3: Well that sucks for you, and then be like working
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder with somebody, and then as time goes like, Yo,
Speaker 3: you're sick, You'll get the fuck out of here, Like
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you trying to do? Yeah, like
Speaker 3: you're trying to get everybody sick. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: we're not doing this today.
Speaker 8: I gave ten feet of space between me and this
Speaker 8: lady at Walgreens because she was sniffling. Yeah yeah, oh,
Speaker 8: and she was buying a pregnancy test and I was like,
Speaker 8: did you confuse that with like a COVID to I
Speaker 8: didn't even like it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't dig too deep on that story. Who knows.
Speaker 7: Sometimes you're just you just are allergic to your baby,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's going to be used. That one
Speaker 3: quote will be used by their right wing like do
Speaker 3: you hear how they talk about it?
Speaker 9: Do you hear they talk about it?
Speaker 3: Do you hear how they talk about this?
Speaker 7: These people, they are going to blow them out, like
Speaker 7: snot through my nose?
Speaker 3: I jump. So the pandemic also led states to create
Speaker 3: or modify paid sickly laws, so there was basically so
Speaker 3: during the pandemic, there was more allowance for sick days,
Speaker 3: especially relating to like mental health and obviously depression has
Speaker 3: plagued gen Z younger younger people at higher rates than
Speaker 3: older generations, probably because they are learning in real time
Speaker 3: more about how bad the world is.
Speaker 7: Probably because they're willing to get diagnosed.
Speaker 3: Mom yeah, mother, right, and it's I was diagnosed with
Speaker 3: laziness and not trying hard enough. That's why you feel
Speaker 3: bad because you're too lazy. That's why your dreams didn't
Speaker 3: come true.
Speaker 7: That's why you're sniffling.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's because you got your free fever.
Speaker 7: Get the fuck out of bed.
Speaker 3: You know, the fever are only going to get worse
Speaker 3: if you stay in bed.
Speaker 7: You gotta burn that.
Speaker 3: You not not that it'll get worse, but it's like
Speaker 3: you should get around and move a little bit.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta move around. You gotta go run a mile.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: One time my brother told me, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: when I start feeling like I'm sick, I just get
Speaker 7: on the treadmill.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, we are not. I don't know how
Speaker 3: we were raised in the same household.
Speaker 1: Use that.
Speaker 3: I use that to take like liberties to become like
Speaker 3: a living mummy. You just start wrapping yourself. Get exactly
Speaker 3: my quick discovery plus on. Please, I have reality to
Speaker 3: watch as I recuperate my body recover. So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 3: the thing is, as we were saying, like when you
Speaker 3: as a tempt probably got fired because you weren't offered
Speaker 3: paid sick leaves because the United States is again we
Speaker 3: have the We hold the crown of being the only
Speaker 3: wealthy nation in the world that does not guarantee workers
Speaker 3: paid time off when they are sick, and almost a
Speaker 3: quarter of private sector workers don't have access to even
Speaker 3: one day of paid sick leave. So obviously, the lack
Speaker 3: of a federal paid sick leave guarantee has left it
Speaker 3: up to states to implement their own laws, and that
Speaker 3: weird implementation has just basically enabled experts to study the
Speaker 3: effects of guaranteed paid sick leave. And it turns out
Speaker 3: everyone wins when you have paid sick leave. It's not
Speaker 3: like they're just going to stay home sick forever. And
Speaker 3: then my widgets don't get made, no, apparently, And I
Speaker 3: think this makes sense. Paid sickleave helps workers as well
Speaker 3: as communities as a whole by quote significantly reducing the
Speaker 3: spread of infectious diseases. And even then, if you're like
Speaker 3: some asshole who's worried about your widgets getting made, look,
Speaker 3: it's actually good for your business too. It increases worker productivity,
Speaker 3: it reduces turnover, thus boosting your beloved economy. So come on,
Speaker 3: lay off of it. And a recent poll showed that
Speaker 3: what eighty five percent of Americans support federal paid sick
Speaker 3: leave requirements, and that was before the pandemic, So that
Speaker 3: number is probably a lot higher given the realities that
Speaker 3: people are living in. So, you know, while I think
Speaker 3: people have tried to implement this into like law, like
Speaker 3: in Congress, they have been apparently they've they've been met
Speaker 3: with heavy resistance from corporate lobbyists. They're the cause of
Speaker 3: and solution to all of their problems.
Speaker 7: Miles. I have a question, yes about this topic. What
Speaker 7: do you think widgets are.
Speaker 3: Widgets? I'm saying widgets as like a business class term for.
Speaker 8: Fake okay product mine, in my mind, it's a fidget toy,
Speaker 8: like fidget toys came to my mind.
Speaker 7: And like oh okay, I was thinking about like the
Speaker 7: apps and like yeah, yeah yeah. Like the way you're
Speaker 7: saying it, it's like they're they're little fingering on a line.
Speaker 3: I'm so old.
Speaker 7: There's like a record Ralph where they're just building it.
Speaker 9: In the phone.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at because you're checking me like this,
Speaker 3: motherfuckering what a widget is?
Speaker 7: Just like you know what a widget is?
Speaker 3: You know, sobody doesn't make those ships that you put
Speaker 3: on your home screen that tell you when the weather
Speaker 3: is the widget mind back to go make you making
Speaker 3: your widgets me lord paid, No, No, that was just
Speaker 3: remember yeah yeah, oh yo, yeah, the International Brotherhood of
Speaker 3: Widget Workers. You know what I mean? Round here Local
Speaker 3: two twenty three. No, that's again, that's like from the
Speaker 3: one business class I overheard and I was here that
Speaker 3: in terms of on your way to drink bro exactly, dude,
Speaker 3: you know how it is, you know how?
Speaker 7: Yeah, suckers.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean again, like this is also just
Speaker 3: I feel like there's just a cultural issue, like I
Speaker 3: think we've all experienced where like especially in this country,
Speaker 3: we've normalized the idea. It's like, yo, dying here is
Speaker 3: actually the dopest thing you could do. Like just oh
Speaker 3: my god, your body on the line. Who died? Oh
Speaker 3: my god?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 7: This woman died in her cubicle and her body was
Speaker 7: there for four days, because checked her for four days.
Speaker 7: Her body was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gave a ship.
Speaker 9: Yeah how and it didn't smell to anybody, that's what
Speaker 9: it smell like.
Speaker 3: That's not I can't someone. I think they only know
Speaker 3: like at first when they smelled it, they thought something
Speaker 3: was off and they didn't realize they were smelling like
Speaker 3: a like a decomposing body. God, yeah, that's happened in Tempe, Arizona.
Speaker 9: That's where I'm from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what did you do? What you have to
Speaker 3: do with this?
Speaker 9: It's my fault.
Speaker 1: I should have.
Speaker 9: Spelled the body.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I thought she was I thought she's
Speaker 3: playing heads up seven up.
Speaker 9: She was winning. Yeah, she was just doing really good
Speaker 9: at heads up seven up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think, Yeah, I think because a lot
Speaker 3: of people worked remotely and it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: part of the building where people weren't there.
Speaker 7: And I don't blame remote work for this.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's why nobody's in there. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying if someone would have noticed, she didn't die. No,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all.
Speaker 7: If they if they worked, if they all worked remote,
Speaker 7: she would have been at home and her cats would
Speaker 7: have not noticed she died. And that's how she would
Speaker 7: have wanted it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly that That story is really grim and
Speaker 3: also just how like adamized like workplaces are too where
Speaker 3: you're like, oh no, the like I'm over here, if
Speaker 3: people don't even know, like who works for me?
Speaker 1: Haven't.
Speaker 3: I don't even know. We work for Wells Fargo Bank.
Speaker 7: That's just how like in general, it feels like the
Speaker 7: answer to a lot of our problems are like community
Speaker 7: and community based solutions because like if people if the
Speaker 7: if people gave a ship at work, or if people
Speaker 7: gave a shit at home or whatever, we would like
Speaker 7: shit like that would not happen if we were like
Speaker 7: checking up on each other more and have the ability
Speaker 7: and the time off to do so.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, like everything you know, even with like housing
Speaker 3: and stuff like this, everything, if if we just get
Speaker 3: corporations out of it, like if they didn't buy up
Speaker 3: all the homes and we had again community based solutions
Speaker 3: to policing and like social safety nets and all these
Speaker 3: other things. Yeah, that would be that. I agree, I
Speaker 3: agree you, and hey, take those sick days.
Speaker 7: I've been shitting on my mom a lot. But she
Speaker 7: really was like the first mutual aid person that I
Speaker 7: know of, like growing up, because she would like make
Speaker 7: food for like the old people in our community and
Speaker 7: like go to their homes and help them and like
Speaker 7: clean their like places, just like as a friend. Like
Speaker 7: all of that shit that is mutually. Yeah, immigrant parents
Speaker 7: taught us about like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, oh, so and so's you know, like
Speaker 3: aunt died. I'm gonna go bring some food over there,
Speaker 3: Like you know, you should have raised in a thing
Speaker 3: where at least, like you know, culturally, if there's food
Speaker 3: is such a love language that Yeah, just like the
Speaker 3: first instincts, like I don't even have words. I can
Speaker 3: make food.
Speaker 7: I can bring that like child care, like people like
Speaker 7: caring for each other's kids when stuff happens, or you
Speaker 7: know that sort of stuff. I wish that was just
Speaker 7: like I.
Speaker 3: Don't think I don't think anyone got the impression that
Speaker 3: your mother was a monster. I don't think that you
Speaker 3: would turn out of such a good person if you're
Speaker 3: thank you So I didn't. I don't. I don't want
Speaker 3: you to think, and I don't want the listeners to
Speaker 3: think that.
Speaker 7: The clip from the episode.
Speaker 9: That I'm such a.
Speaker 3: Good person, they'll mash them onto one omni take. But yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: it's like we help each other. That seems to be
Speaker 3: the solution.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I wish that was so separate from like church culture too,
Speaker 8: like a lot, but so much of like community is
Speaker 8: like outside of like gay culture to me, is framed
Speaker 8: in like church. You know, and like, I feel like
Speaker 8: this generation, my generation is not not like church going,
Speaker 8: but wants community and it's searching for that everywhere to
Speaker 8: find it online, which is cool, but that's not the
Speaker 8: same as in person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's why you start. You're
Speaker 3: starting to see just like what that yearning for a
Speaker 3: community is, like how it's manifesting with like running clubs.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a huge thing that's happening. More
Speaker 3: and more people are like, I don't know, like it's
Speaker 3: just it. You don't have to be a good runner,
Speaker 3: but like a bunch of people get together and I
Speaker 3: can just talk to a bunch of people over a
Speaker 3: shared interest and then afterwards people hang out and I'm
Speaker 3: that's great.
Speaker 7: Or that's why jay Z joined his walking club because
Speaker 7: Beyonce doesn't do interviews. Okay, she's working, so she cannot
Speaker 7: talk to him. He's lonely and he needs to go
Speaker 7: on walking.
Speaker 3: But just take a little stroll. Yeah, that's happens. It's
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. All right, that's gonna do it.
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