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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 3: Miles Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined once again in air

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Speaker 1: third seat by a writer, one of the best podcast

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Speaker 1: hosts and EPs doing it. You know him from stuff

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Speaker 1: they don't want you to know, ridiculous history news series

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Speaker 1: Missing in Arizona. Please welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: It's Ben Bower.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, feels so good to be back.

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Speaker 2: A little bit off kilter here, I was coming in

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Speaker 2: at an eight point three out of ten. I thought

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Speaker 2: I had a good Aka. I was gonna go with

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Speaker 2: soup Gode because I thought that was like a nice things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought was a cool but then I got I

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Speaker 2: got soup.

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Speaker 3: Cooked, nothing cooked, and I made you watch me do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too' ak it's all slow down, soup cold. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't doing a super big steakcake.

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite soup band? For the record, because we

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Speaker 3: are pro soup on the show. Despite what Jesse Waters

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Speaker 3: has to say about eight out of ten things he

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Speaker 3: says most of the time. But yeah, yeah, no, I've

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Speaker 3: heard it. I've heard it.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I gotta be honest. I like a fuck,

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Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for being a dirt bag too. I'm

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Speaker 2: a sucker for that that canned denty moore beef stew.

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Speaker 1: Whoa you really fun legend?

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Speaker 2: Yo.

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Speaker 3: Whenever I see that, I'm like, Yo, this is for

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Speaker 3: somebody who's like a Civil War reenactor, but you're.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 3: Really. Every time I see that label, it's like hunt

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Speaker 3: because it's so it's I feel like that label has

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Speaker 3: not changed and decades that whatever I see and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that has to be the same can I saw when

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Speaker 3: I was like ten years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. The secret to Dancymore beef stew

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Speaker 2: is it never goes bad because it never starts off good,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Because it never was beef stew. It's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's weird that they don't have air

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Speaker 2: quotes around. Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh but yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: it's nostallgia. But I'll tell you, I loving if I

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Speaker 2: actually made some I make a lot of like soup

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Speaker 2: with the leftovers because I'm too cheap to you know,

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Speaker 3: If it's all in salt water and make a soup. Baby,

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: But man, I was listening to the recent episode with

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Speaker 2: some strong opinions about soup. That's kind of been an

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Speaker 2: ongoing theme and now in honor if you guys and

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Speaker 2: Blake and your buddy from earlier, I'm not drinking with

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Speaker 2: a straw.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, My buddy from earlier being Jesse Waters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your little friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, your boy, yo, Come get your boy, Jesse Waters.

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Speaker 3: What I do want.

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Speaker 1: To So on the last episode, we talked about how

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Speaker 1: Jesse Water says it's not mainly to eat soup because

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Speaker 1: you purs your lips when you blow on it.

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Speaker 3: Not the way and not the way that I do.

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Speaker 1: Miles pointed out that I just pour it onto a

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Speaker 1: plate and then slide it back and.

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Speaker 3: Burn myself with it like a real.

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Speaker 1: But I was talking about how my mother in law

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Speaker 1: who is now living with us as well as my

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Speaker 1: father in law, and it's been wonderful, but she she's

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Speaker 1: always complimented me for liking soup, and then the other

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Speaker 1: but the other day was like, because it's very rare

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Speaker 1: for a man.

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Speaker 3: To like soup. Yeah, did you get to the bottom

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Speaker 3: of that?

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned it. She was like, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: saw it on the ground. Nice and she was like,

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Speaker 1: your mouth. She was very touch that we were talking

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Speaker 1: about that, and she hit me over the weekend jack

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Speaker 1: Korean proverb A man who likes soup will get a

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Speaker 1: fortune and blessings from his wife.

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Speaker 3: So whoa, Okay that's gonna be that's pretty good news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Oh so for her, it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you a good man, You a good soup eating man. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're a good basic ass soupy. You're a family, You're

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Speaker 1: You know what. I think the way it started is

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Speaker 1: that it's like easy to make and so like by

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Speaker 3: It's so gender normal. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The husband who

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Speaker 3: cares not how much his wife hath toiled in kitchen

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Speaker 3: shall receive blessings.

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Speaker 1: Really, this is why I'm a fucking hero. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying it for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Everybody, you know, so lucky, My beautiful, brilliant wife is

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Speaker 5: so oh you to have me because I like soup.

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Speaker 2: I would also not to get too conspiratorial, but is

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Speaker 2: it possible that your mother in law may have manufactured

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Speaker 2: Korean proverb just to give you a win?

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Speaker 1: She just sees me sadly eating soup, and she's like,

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Speaker 1: this guy needs a fucking win. The way you eat

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Speaker 1: soup is really good, and then like, it's so it's

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Speaker 1: so sad that like the compliment she gives me completely

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Speaker 1: made up. I talk about it on my podcast, God

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Speaker 1: So Sad. Yeah, that's entirely possible. Sometimes sometimes your boy

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Speaker 1: needs a win. And I'm not talking about Jesse Waters.

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Speaker 1: So we do like to ask our guests what is

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Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay?

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Speaker 6: I asked my search history. If one piece of cheese

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Speaker 6: and a pack of slices Mazza relative cheeses has mold

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Speaker 6: on it, does that make them all bad?

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Speaker 1: Great question that has come up in my mind many

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Speaker 1: times and that I have never I've never bothered to

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Speaker 1: google it.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you that much.

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Speaker 1: I depending on how much I want the cheese, I

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Speaker 1: will either throw the one piece away or throw the

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Speaker 1: whole thing away. But it's totally dependent on like how

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Speaker 1: bad I need cheese in that mine.

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Speaker 7: I know I was going to say, it's dependent on

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Speaker 7: that ye. Yeah, it's like what I am able to

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Speaker 7: throw a whole pack of cheese away. It's like you

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Speaker 7: don't care about your bank account, your neighbor's bank accounts.

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Speaker 7: No one cares. But like if you're like, oh, I

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Speaker 7: can just eat around it on this slice, like I

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Speaker 7: then you're like, you're down bad. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: So you're taking just the mold off the one slice?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I mean gets to that point, you

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Speaker 1: I mean smell test obviously, right, we're using the smell test.

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Speaker 1: If all the cheese smell bad, were.

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Speaker 7: Probably victors asking if they're individually wrapped, And I'm sorry, Victory,

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Speaker 7: that's a different tax bracket than what we're talking about.

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Speaker 7: If your chesus individually wrapped.

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Speaker 6: Talking about craft singles, Victor, So now I understand what craft.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about. If it's hot, it's melting together into

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Speaker 7: one big.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, typically I do the partner test where I

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Speaker 6: give it to my husband and watch him eat it

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Speaker 6: and just stare.

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Speaker 1: At him for a while, just put him under a

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Speaker 7: That's what husbands are for. My dad would always eat

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Speaker 7: the leftover bad stuff.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 7: We'd be like I don't want it. I don't want it, mom,

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Speaker 7: and he'd be like, Okay, give it to me, fine, baby.

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Speaker 7: So I had to be like super for sure, for sure, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 7: we can take it.

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Speaker 3: We can take a little bit of I will.

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Speaker 7: Say I haven't told especially for like bread, the spores

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Speaker 7: spread and you should toss it. But I'm also a

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Speaker 7: big fan of like eating questionable stuff and then wondering

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Speaker 7: if I have IBS for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 7: So I'm a huge fan of that.

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Speaker 1: Then you have something to blame your IBS on besides

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Speaker 1: just your anxiety.

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Speaker 7: Hot girl, And that's why I have IBS and not.

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Speaker 7: I just like, don't pay attention to the mold in

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Speaker 7: my bread.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: We just rushed past, Like did Google have a satisfying

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Speaker 1: answer of on this question?

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Speaker 6: It actually said everything that you guys just said. It

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Speaker 6: said you can either discard the moldy slice.

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Speaker 3: It was thanks Google. I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 6: I wasted gallons of water.

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Speaker 7: You're throwing away gallons of water to figure out if

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Speaker 7: you should throw away a slice of cheese.

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Speaker 1: You definitely don't need to throw away craft, Like if

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Speaker 1: one gets moldy, you don't have to throw away.

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Speaker 6: The We're not talking about craft singles here. We're talking

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Speaker 6: about whole foods.

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Speaker 7: Organic.

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Speaker 3: Singles.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, sorry, sorry, I'm aware.

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Speaker 7: Of You're like, I don't understand what's other cheese?

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Speaker 3: What is something you think is underrated? Alison?

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Speaker 8: I think I think hats as a show of femininity

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Speaker 8: is underrated. I think fems wearing hats is underrated. Why

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Speaker 8: did I immediately go to like church lady hats? I

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Speaker 9: Yeah no, I mean like like I.

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Speaker 8: Have like bucket, like these buckets, but just like like

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Speaker 3: Yeah what do you call that? Justin a six panel

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Speaker 3: ave and we call it a camp hat? I think, yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah, wait, So what about uh what about the

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Speaker 3: trend of like big brown felt hats, that that was

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Speaker 9: I was grown felt hats. I don't even know that people.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, not like the Pharrell Vivian Westwood gigantic

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Speaker 3: hat but like, you know, how like you see those

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Speaker 3: everybody got like the big felt brown like you know,

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Speaker 3: the big brown brimmed hat.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, cowboy hat yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Coast Christian Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: yeah exactly base dope. Did you ever wear backwards?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: But I like to wear to consider it, I was like,

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Speaker 7: how far are we going?

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Speaker 9: I've never Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The lesbian in me was like, it's not practical to

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Speaker 8: wear it backwards, because then how am I getting the shade?

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Speaker 3: You know? That's not what?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah I would wear it backwards.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just for the record, just want to

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Speaker 3: get everything her miles.

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Speaker 9: Yeah here agenda.

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Speaker 7: Rock like this to sh like I would do Fresh Prince.

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Speaker 8: It's like, I'm gay, but I'm not gay.

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Speaker 7: I'm gay, but I'm not nineties derogatory gay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this really will shave. This is a good like

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Speaker 3: Now, how often have I said that?

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Speaker 1: Under my back? All Right, let's uh, let's take a

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Speaker 3: Was that already Tuesday? All right, we'll be right.

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Speaker 1: And we're back. My voice just want a little Chewbacca there, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, there's even today right, like there's like news because

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Speaker 3: Where is the poop?

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Speaker 2: Just critically, where is like for an animal of that

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Speaker 2: The uh? We know for a fact, Just to back

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Speaker 2: ooh the celia long thought to be extinct for millions

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Speaker 1: Do appreciate you now speaking in your regular voice, stopping

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Speaker 1: the yea from our modern era and from America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm merely a British observer of your American Civil War,

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Speaker 3: The steal secrets came from England to be oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: So maybe mass media has saved us from society.

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Speaker 2: But uh, but yes, like the like the Ceilcanth is

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Speaker 3: How would what do you call it?

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Speaker 2: And so that kind of stuff informs what people think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are their subscriptions? What are their Star Wars names?

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Speaker 1: that film are like fairly like. They don't seem very

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00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: advanced in their like reasoning, which I feel like any

444
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: version of Bigfoot would have to be for it to

445
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: have like stayed off grid this lines would have to

446
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: have at least invented poop bags, real sleeper poof Yeah.

447
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's a great point

448
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: because also, all right, so I did ask people about

449
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: the poop right, and admittedly I was a little overly

450
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: diplomatic about it. I was saying, well, you know, a

451
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: lot of our listeners in the crowd tonight are probably

452
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: gonna wonder. And every time I asked this, I would

453
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: get really good energy back that people would say, like

454
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: one guy who started a museum here in l a j, Georgia,

455
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: well it doesn't matter, just believe me. It's a real

456
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: place and the Yeah. I asked him about the poop

457
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: and he said, yeah, that's a great question. Ben. Here's

458
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: what I think. M what if they're extra dimensional?

459
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, immediately that's the way where it goes.

460
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: Change the goalposts. Yeah, yeah, they don't poop, bro, they

461
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 3: poop in another dimension.

462
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: They do that poop in their dimension, in a pocket

463
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: poop dimension.

464
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, just so quickly, just reflexively. They

465
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: might be interdimensional. I always thought the reason why Americans

466
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: had an obsession with Bigfoot was the decline of the

467
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: white working class. Now is there is there anything to that?

468
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 10: Uh?

469
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: No?

470
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: That was like I was reading this article about this

471
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: guy who wrote a book, and like, apparently it comes

472
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: up a lot, but in a way where people are like,

473
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this guy talking about it? Like

474
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: is it They're saying, it's a lot of dudes who

475
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: like just sort of like yearn for the past and

476
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: being out and like camping and stuff like that. But

477
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like it sounds like

478
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: people who have enough money to go camping for long

479
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: periods with infrared gear probably aren't the kind of working

480
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: class people that they might be yearning for. But that

481
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: is interesting.

482
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: It started in like the Pacific Northwest around the same

483
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: time that like grunge was being created because of the

484
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: like collapse of the middle class there, and now it's

485
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: like moving down to the rust belt. There's that's an

486
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: interesting theory. I don't know exactly how this.

487
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Author was not articulating it in that kind of way.

488
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: It felt very like maga adjacent like coment, like yeah,

489
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: because like white working men are just like the villain.

490
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: Now that's why we like okay okay. I feel like

491
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: it could have been maybe a little bit more nuanced,

492
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: but the take felt a little bit all over it.

493
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: There is a sociological aspect, right, because we're talking about

494
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: communities of people who believe in or are somehow taken

495
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: with a certain idea. And it's interesting too. You see

496
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: it sometimes in recent UFO discourse. Right, there is an

497
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: underlying sociological factor like a lot of this stuff kind

498
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: of trends to the right wing, to the political spectrum,

499
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: and so I think there's a validity to the idea

500
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: that people are looking back with the rose colored glasses

501
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: on maybe in America that didn't exist, you know, just

502
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: sort of this rock wallized version of days past, and

503
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 2: they're thinking, yeah, back then, you could just go out

504
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: in the wild, you know, just right can of soup

505
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: in a dream, see some wild animals.

506
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: That like John Muorish version of conservation where it's like,

507
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: don't let native people sully the view. This is just

508
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: for our white gaze to cast them on untouched beauty,

509
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: and that's the old times we yearned for. I'm you know,

510
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: I would love to see a big foot. But they're

511
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 3: the least of all the cryptids. I think they're the

512
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: least that's the least interesting.

513
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of like the vanilla ice cream, I guess, yeah, sure.

514
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: But the the interesting thing here for anybody who is hoping,

515
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: you know, like I would assume, like all of us

516
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: hoping to one day see something cool. How awesome would

517
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: it be for a large animal to be discovered in

518
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: our lifetime? This is one of the moments in history

519
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: where it's more likely than it has been at most

520
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 2: times in the past, just because human beings are encroaching

521
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: so much in the places that human beings didn't used

522
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: to go.

523
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: So even you sound like a guy who's like starting

524
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: off to like sell me on a bigfoot tours. Like,

525
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: but here's the thing, if we were ever gonna see one,

526
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: the time is now, because we'd now look, yeah, how

527
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: much money you got like three hundred dollars, Well, that's

528
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: exactly what my tour costs. Man, you're in, let's load up.

529
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think so. In doing additional research

530
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: to the like state parks mystery, the answer seems to

531
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: be that state parks and just generally the world is

532
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: much larger than people can possibly like realize, and so

533
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: people just wander off a trail and get way more

534
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: loss than they thought possible in a really short amount

535
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: of time because the state parks are just like endless

536
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: and very untamed, and we as modern people are not

537
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: used to that sort of thing, and so they just

538
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: wander off and never find their way back.

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: There's no federal uh, there's no single federal compilation federal

540
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: level agency counting disappearances, which which means, yeah, it can

541
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: be quite a few people year over year, But it

542
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: also means since that kind of agency doesn't exist, there's

543
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: no one counting the reappearances. Sure, the guy's like, oh shit,

544
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: I got kind of stoned. It was my first time camping. Yeah,

545
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm two days late, but I'm back, you know, now,

546
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: it's just a disappearance.

547
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: I had a one hundred milligram edible like at the trailhead,

548
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: and I was just actually asleep about four hundred yards in.

549
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: But I do think that's the That is one of

550
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: the good arguments for how something like this could happen

551
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: is how little of like how massive the world is, yes,

552
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: and also how little of that we've actually officially like

553
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: documented and explored. Right, there's obviously the ocean. There's like

554
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: famous quotes about how little of the ocean is known,

555
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: and but I mean it's true of a lot of wilderness,

556
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: like it weren't wasn't the platypus thought to be a

557
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: crypto a cryptid for a long time.

558
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, said with great affection, you guys, I love animals.

559
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: The platypus looks so funny. Not to be rude, but

560
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: I see it.

561
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you still don't believe it.

562
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: How the fuck did you get here, buddy? You know

563
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: what I mean?

564
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: Like I hacked this thing together?

565
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think that's another part of

566
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: it too. A lot of times now that people live

567
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: in increasingly in conturbations, we're not around the natural world.

568
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: A lot of times, we're less familiar with the other

569
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: things living out there. So you're already in an unfamiliar situation.

570
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: You hear a in the trees, and then you hear

571
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: some noise you've never heard before, and it's like, what

572
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: you're not going to know? You're not going to be like, ah, yes,

573
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: that's clearly that was me.

574
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: Actually my bad. I mean.

575
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: And also that is like when you think about the

576
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: things that nature has invented that seemed completely made up,

577
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing that fails to grab me

578
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: about the sasquatches, Like, oh we have those right, Like

579
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: we have big giant apes who can like speak in

580
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: sign language, Like we have things that seem like they

581
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: were made up by a child. We have giant squid. Yes,

582
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: for a long time people were fascinated by that as

583
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: like one of the main you know, cryptids and then

584
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: once we discovered it was real, we were like, all right,

585
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: fuck off, moving on.

586
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, think about how how weird? I mean, you're right,

587
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: the natural world is full of all these crazy evolutionary

588
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: mixtapes that attempt to solve problems the past that may

589
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: not be as applicable today. Like a giraffe, that's a

590
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: very specific thing. You know, a lot of insects in

591
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: the relationship with plants. I feel like, if you are

592
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: looking at crypto cryptid type biology, if you are frightened

593
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: for some reason the idea of a large undiscovered animal,

594
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: you should be much more frightened of fungus because that

595
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: stuff is. That stuff's amazing and scary. That's the HBO

596
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: Lovecraft stuff.

597
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: Bro, you don't got to tell me, Bro, I saw

598
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: Last of Us right right, cordisps.

599
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: I apologize if this feels like it's old hat, but

600
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: every time, so, like, what do you guys think about zoos?

601
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Do you think they're important for conversation conservation? Do you

602
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: think it's more like an animal jail? What's where on

603
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: the spectrumrim.

604
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Guys, I think they're fun, and I won't admit that

605
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: because I don't want people to yell at me.

606
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: I think they're animal jails, and I think animal jails

607
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: are cool. How about that? I I'll stand on that.

608
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: I mean I think as I got old, I think

609
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 3: the thing is like there's some like you know, like

610
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: in San Diego there's like way more space and like

611
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: there's sort of safari area. But like when I've been

612
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: to like urban zoos, like there's a zoo in Tokyo

613
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: where like these fuckers look so sad. I'm like, yes,

614
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: this is not a zoo. This motherfucker is rotting in

615
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: a concrete cell for for babies to just smear their

616
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: hands all over the plexiglass and then move on like that.

617
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: I definitely like so in a way, I like that

618
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: there is a place to observe animals, but the way

619
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: that it's done, it's like, uh yeah that is there

620
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: is there a more humane way, like a way that

621
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: doesn't bum me the fuck out, like just so on

622
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: its face. Like when I go there, I think you

623
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: know I'm talking about I'm talking about the one in

624
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: uh Weno Park.

625
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Don't love it. I was excited to go and I

626
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: walked out thinking.

627
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah.

628
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a rough, But I bring up the

629
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: zoo question, because you know, one of the great conspiracies

630
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: about cryptis you run into, especially with the bigfoot stuff,

631
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: is people saying insert cabal here is covering up the knowledge.

632
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: You know, what's the Smithsonian doing with all the bones?

633
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: I assure you, folks, if the Smithsonian had a ghost

634
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: of a chance having any real thing like proof of

635
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: a contemporaneous Bigfoot, it would be fucking all over the

636
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: place with it. You couldn't get away from it. It

637
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: would be like the it would tour the nation in

638
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: the world. They would sequence the DNA and try to

639
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: make a big foot shot her community, and we would

640
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: be some of the first people there.

641
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, have you met someone who has

642
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: like a specialized interest like that, like an archaeology or

643
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: zoology or something. Those people love to share. Like their

644
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: whole thing is wanting more people to be interested in

645
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: what they do. They're not going to keep secrets. Yeah,

646
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm just about the thing that could really bring a

647
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: lot of interests. To shut the funk up with you,

648
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: you're not doing that ship.

649
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a quick break and then I

650
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: do want to check in with you real quick about

651
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: the aliens.

652
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Will be right back, and we're back. Paula. It's time

653
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: for you to do battle with your arch nemesis. Rachel.

654
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: Got so much akay Gun, ray Gun.

655
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 7: You can't believe you're you're platforming someone so problematic.

656
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: How I love the platform break dances. I just I

657
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: think it's a great ote.

658
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 7: I think I should take a walk about.

659
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, take a walk about. Went to Ularu, I went,

660
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 3: I breaked. I broke dance all the way to Ularu.

661
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 7: Wait, you're too good at that. I'm scared a big rock.

662
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: I've never been to Australia, but I always hear people

663
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: talk about Ulu take a big rock or some ship

664
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: Ausie's Gang. Please correct me, but anyway, the breakout star

665
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: of the Paris Olympics, ray Gun the breakdance, as we remember,

666
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: failed to score a single point in the breaking competition,

667
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: but she's currently the highest ranked breakdancer in the world.

668
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: That's because she won the quote Quote won the gold

669
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: medal at the twenty twenty three w d SF Oceania Championships.

670
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: It's like a regional So the wd SF is the

671
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: World Dance Sport Federation, which is the governing body. Game.

672
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 7: It was everyone else sick, like when I.

673
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: Know I'm always I mean, this this story was always

674
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: like odd because I remember at the time people were

675
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: like how dare she And other times I'm like, how

676
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 3: dare them putting her up there? Like she's pretty out

677
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: of sorts to be like, I didn't. I didn't see

678
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: it necessarily, like as nefarious of a plot in terms

679
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: of just seeing how you know, like white people are

680
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: able to fail upward quite easily. But I didn't necessarily

681
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 3: see her as like trying to be like and I'm

682
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 3: representing break. I mean, her life is terrible. It sounds

683
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: like now. But all that to say because she won

684
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: like this qualifying competition. She got one thousand ranking points

685
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: and that's secured her spot in Paris. But other qualifying

686
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: events and the Paris Games themselves do not factor into

687
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: these rankings apparently, and that is by design so that

688
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: athletes can focus solely on the Olympic qualification without stressing

689
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: out over rankings. So basically what's happened was like within

690
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: because she won this qualifier within the last year, and

691
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: there weren't other like sort of measurable or like ranked

692
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: events that happened since then. Even the people who won gold,

693
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: they weren't in events that would actually count towards this ranking.

694
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: So all that to say is this is only because

695
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: like of the timing of her last win, it just

696
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: has she just has more points on the board. That's

697
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: all going to change in October.

698
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 7: Did she do that intentionally?

699
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: No, then it's just the timing of the rank, like

700
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 3: that's just when that event.

701
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 7: No, but I mean was she like, oh, like, no,

702
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go if I win. Is that why she entered?

703
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, No.

704
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 9: Do we know what Allison Stoner thinks of all this?

705
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Yeah, I would Elliot videos Yeah yeah,

706
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: or like.

707
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 9: Was it you got you Got Served?

708
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 10: That series of movies she was in the later on

709
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 10: maybe she was was she was like she was she

710
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 10: was a little sister. She was in the steps Up,

711
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 10: That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, you got served.

712
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's like a whole dance Yeah yeah.

713
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 7: I watched all of them, all the step ups. I

714
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 7: watched all the dance because I was I used to dance,

715
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 7: and I was.

716
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 9: Like, did you ever get Darren's dance grooves? I did

717
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 9: not get grooves.

718
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: This was and took me back my.

719
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 8: Sister loved like in Sync and Backstreet poison, like knew

720
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 8: all the dances and stuff, and she the oldest, so

721
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 8: like the rest of us kind of like fell in

722
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 8: line behind her. Yeah, brother got Darren's dance grooves and

723
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 8: he was the choreographer for all of those like big pop.

724
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Bye Bye Bye. I remember that was like

725
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: the way they were selling it. They're like, you want

726
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: to be able to do the bye Bye Bye choreography,

727
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: we'll get checked out dance group. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

728
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: But anyway, so like again, it's just the it's like

729
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: it's merely like that's why like this the organization's coming out.

730
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: They're like, look, it's just because these other people's qualifiers.

731
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: It's been over a year, so those points don't count.

732
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: The clock is going to reset come October when we

733
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: have another official event. But you know, we'll see. Who knows.

734
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: She might come out. She might come out with some

735
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: new moves, you know what I mean. She might do

736
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: she might do push ups up there.

737
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 8: She like actually a bad dancer. You were saying she's

738
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 8: a performance artist, and I keep hearing different things.

739
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: No, I say that flippantly. She is a performance I'm sorry.

740
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: My dead pant sometimes sounds like I'm being serious, but no,

741
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: she she's just like she's.

742
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 7: Like she's just like she's an academic like studied it.

743
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 7: Like yeah, she was like some sort of like professor

744
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 7: or something, and she's like thirty six and she she

745
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 7: like has studied it academically.

746
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: But you're in the Department of Media Communications, Creative Arts,

747
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: Language and Literature at Jesus Macquarie University, a faculty of.

748
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 9: Arts, and smart people can be dumb. So that gives

749
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 9: me hope. I don't know what that means.

750
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: It's like anybody, look, smart people can be dumb. Smart

751
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: people can be.

752
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 7: Dumb people to be smart exactly, Okay, loopholes O was

753
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 7: gonna say, I'm so silly. I was gonna say, like

754
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 7: her her husband was like her coach or something, right, yeah,

755
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 7: or there was some like he also break dances and

756
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 7: I saw like a super clip of him break dancing

757
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 7: and they were like, uh, they played is somebody to

758
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 7: match my freak over it? And he was just also awful.

759
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 7: Maybe it was I don't know. They were like maybe

760
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 7: he was having like these moments and they just captured those.

761
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I will if you read this story right.

762
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: Her husband is the one who encouraged her to get

763
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: into break dancing and must be awful. It's always away.

764
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: They can't even dance. They can't even dance.

765
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 8: I would like to see them battle a toddler like

766
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 8: dance battle, because I feels all have the same like

767
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 8: they're just they're just even at the knees.

768
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 7: There are some like actual like not toddlers, but like

769
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 7: like five year olds that are actually like insanely good

770
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 7: at break dancing because they're so their cetera of gravity

771
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 7: is so low, so they can do like a lot

772
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 7: more stuff than like if they were in their adults.

773
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 9: Physics behind your.

774
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: Makes perfect specimen to commit your life to this. That's

775
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: how you must be a breakdancer. But yeah, I like,

776
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: you know she like apparently she did though pause her

777
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: breakdancing career to complete her PhD, so she'd do like, look,

778
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: let's let's not I guess we should call her doctor

779
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 3: ray Gun at this point. But yeah, she will probably

780
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: be completely wiped off the rankings once they have another

781
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: event where you actually have to be a breakdancer to win,

782
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: because my god, what we saw was not great. So look,

783
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: worry not be boys, b girls, It's okay. You know,

784
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: ray Gun is not out here actually being number one ranked. Okay, anyway, now,

785
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: I guess we should talk about sick days because I

786
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: don't have what's your polity? I know you're younger than

787
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: I think is everybody you am? I the oldest one.

788
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: You just want to check everyone's work habits. Were you

789
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 3: were you sick day users or sick days? Like, I

790
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: think they're gonna think I'm lazy and they're gonna fire me.

791
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 7: When I was in science, I would be like I

792
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: would sleep in the lab and they would think it

793
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: was cool if you smell bad and wore the same

794
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 7: clothes as the day before, because it meant you were

795
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 7: working harder.

796
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 9: But if you were a.

797
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 7: Lady who wore makeup, well that's just weird because why

798
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 7: do you have time to do makeup and look nice.

799
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 7: Shouldn't you be working?

800
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: Shouldn't you be looking at this microscope?

801
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 9: No one's got fired for taking a sick day?

802
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 7: What the fuck?

803
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: Isn't that literally illegal?

804
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 9: It's literally illegal. I was a temp so I think

805
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 9: it was like they had a way around it, you know.

806
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: But I like and that legally you don't have a

807
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: sick day, and that legally.

808
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 9: You don't have a sick day.

809
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 8: But like I was saying, I was like living in

810
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 8: Chicago and it was also like one of the like

811
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: coldest winters at the time, and I was like, I'm sick.

812
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 8: It's horrifyingly cold. I need to stay home. And they

813
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 8: were like, you're we're done, You're fired.

814
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 10: Yeah.

815
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

816
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: Well, apparently sick leave in the United States has gone

817
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: up fifty five percent in twenty twenty three, and it's

818
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: only been going up compared to twenty nineteen. And the

819
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: people under the age of thirty five are just driving

820
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: this trend. And it's not because there's an affliction that

821
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: only affects young people, where the older people are are

822
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: left free to work constantly. But there are a few reasons.

823
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: So the pandemic a obviously changed the way everyone feels

824
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: about motherfuckers showing up at work sick, because I remember

825
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: back in the day be like, oh, you're sick, all right,

826
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 3: Well that sucks for you, and then be like working

827
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: shoulder to shoulder with somebody, and then as time goes like, Yo,

828
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: you're sick, You'll get the fuck out of here, Like

829
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you trying to do? Yeah, like

830
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: you're trying to get everybody sick. No, no, no, no,

831
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: we're not doing this today.

832
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 8: I gave ten feet of space between me and this

833
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 8: lady at Walgreens because she was sniffling. Yeah yeah, oh,

834
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 8: and she was buying a pregnancy test and I was like,

835
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 8: did you confuse that with like a COVID to I

836
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 8: didn't even like it.

837
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't dig too deep on that story. Who knows.

838
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 7: Sometimes you're just you just are allergic to your baby,

839
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 7: you know.

840
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's going to be used. That one

841
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: quote will be used by their right wing like do

842
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: you hear how they talk about it?

843
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 9: Do you hear they talk about it?

844
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 3: Do you hear how they talk about this?

845
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 7: These people, they are going to blow them out, like

846
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 7: snot through my nose?

847
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: I jump. So the pandemic also led states to create

848
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: or modify paid sickly laws, so there was basically so

849
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: during the pandemic, there was more allowance for sick days,

850
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: especially relating to like mental health and obviously depression has

851
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: plagued gen Z younger younger people at higher rates than

852
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: older generations, probably because they are learning in real time

853
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: more about how bad the world is.

854
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 7: Probably because they're willing to get diagnosed.

855
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: Mom yeah, mother, right, and it's I was diagnosed with

856
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 3: laziness and not trying hard enough. That's why you feel

857
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 3: bad because you're too lazy. That's why your dreams didn't

858
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: come true.

859
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 7: That's why you're sniffling.

860
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: Oh, it's because you got your free fever.

861
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 7: Get the fuck out of bed.

862
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: You know, the fever are only going to get worse

863
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: if you stay in bed.

864
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 7: You gotta burn that.

865
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: You not not that it'll get worse, but it's like

866
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: you should get around and move a little bit.

867
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, you gotta move around. You gotta go run a mile.

868
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: You know.

869
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 7: One time my brother told me, he was like, yeah,

870
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: when I start feeling like I'm sick, I just get

871
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: on the treadmill.

872
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: And I'm like, we are not. I don't know how

873
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: we were raised in the same household.

874
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: Use that.

875
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: I use that to take like liberties to become like

876
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: a living mummy. You just start wrapping yourself. Get exactly

877
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: my quick discovery plus on. Please, I have reality to

878
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: watch as I recuperate my body recover. So anyway, Uh,

879
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: the thing is, as we were saying, like when you

880
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: as a tempt probably got fired because you weren't offered

881
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 3: paid sick leaves because the United States is again we

882
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: have the We hold the crown of being the only

883
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: wealthy nation in the world that does not guarantee workers

884
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: paid time off when they are sick, and almost a

885
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: quarter of private sector workers don't have access to even

886
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 3: one day of paid sick leave. So obviously, the lack

887
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: of a federal paid sick leave guarantee has left it

888
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: up to states to implement their own laws, and that

889
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: weird implementation has just basically enabled experts to study the

890
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: effects of guaranteed paid sick leave. And it turns out

891
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: everyone wins when you have paid sick leave. It's not

892
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: like they're just going to stay home sick forever. And

893
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: then my widgets don't get made, no, apparently, And I

894
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: think this makes sense. Paid sickleave helps workers as well

895
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: as communities as a whole by quote significantly reducing the

896
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: spread of infectious diseases. And even then, if you're like

897
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: some asshole who's worried about your widgets getting made, look,

898
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: it's actually good for your business too. It increases worker productivity,

899
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: it reduces turnover, thus boosting your beloved economy. So come on,

900
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: lay off of it. And a recent poll showed that

901
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: what eighty five percent of Americans support federal paid sick

902
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: leave requirements, and that was before the pandemic, So that

903
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: number is probably a lot higher given the realities that

904
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: people are living in. So, you know, while I think

905
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: people have tried to implement this into like law, like

906
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: in Congress, they have been apparently they've they've been met

907
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: with heavy resistance from corporate lobbyists. They're the cause of

908
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: and solution to all of their problems.

909
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Speaker 7: Miles. I have a question, yes about this topic. What

910
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 7: do you think widgets are.

911
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: Widgets? I'm saying widgets as like a business class term for.

912
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 8: Fake okay product mine, in my mind, it's a fidget toy,

913
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 8: like fidget toys came to my mind.

914
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 7: And like oh okay, I was thinking about like the

915
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 7: apps and like yeah, yeah yeah. Like the way you're

916
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 7: saying it, it's like they're they're little fingering on a line.

917
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm so old.

918
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 7: There's like a record Ralph where they're just building it.

919
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 9: In the phone.

920
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at because you're checking me like this,

921
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: motherfuckering what a widget is?

922
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 7: Just like you know what a widget is?

923
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: You know, sobody doesn't make those ships that you put

924
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: on your home screen that tell you when the weather

925
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: is the widget mind back to go make you making

926
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Speaker 3: your widgets me lord paid, No, No, that was just

927
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 3: remember yeah yeah, oh yo, yeah, the International Brotherhood of

928
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Widget Workers. You know what I mean? Round here Local

929
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Speaker 3: two twenty three. No, that's again, that's like from the

930
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Speaker 3: one business class I overheard and I was here that

931
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Speaker 3: in terms of on your way to drink bro exactly, dude,

932
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: you know how it is, you know how?

933
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Speaker 7: Yeah, suckers.

934
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean again, like this is also just

935
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Speaker 3: I feel like there's just a cultural issue, like I

936
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: think we've all experienced where like especially in this country,

937
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: we've normalized the idea. It's like, yo, dying here is

938
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: actually the dopest thing you could do. Like just oh

939
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: my god, your body on the line. Who died? Oh

940
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 3: my god?

941
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Speaker 1: I did.

942
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Speaker 7: This woman died in her cubicle and her body was

943
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Speaker 7: there for four days, because checked her for four days.

944
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Speaker 7: Her body was there.

945
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, gave a ship.

946
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 9: Yeah how and it didn't smell to anybody, that's what

947
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Speaker 9: it smell like.

948
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Speaker 3: That's not I can't someone. I think they only know

949
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 3: like at first when they smelled it, they thought something

950
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: was off and they didn't realize they were smelling like

951
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 3: a like a decomposing body. God, yeah, that's happened in Tempe, Arizona.

952
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 9: That's where I'm from.

953
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what did you do? What you have to

954
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: do with this?

955
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 9: It's my fault.

956
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I should have.

957
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 9: Spelled the body.

958
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

959
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I thought she was I thought she's

960
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: playing heads up seven up.

961
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 9: She was winning. Yeah, she was just doing really good

962
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 9: at heads up seven up.

963
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think, Yeah, I think because a lot

964
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: of people worked remotely and it was like, you know,

965
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: part of the building where people weren't there.

966
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 7: And I don't blame remote work for this.

967
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's why nobody's in there. I'm not

968
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: saying if someone would have noticed, she didn't die. No,

969
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that at all.

970
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 7: If they if they worked, if they all worked remote,

971
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 7: she would have been at home and her cats would

972
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 7: have not noticed she died. And that's how she would

973
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 7: have wanted it.

974
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly that That story is really grim and

975
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: also just how like adamized like workplaces are too where

976
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: you're like, oh no, the like I'm over here, if

977
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: people don't even know, like who works for me?

978
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Haven't.

979
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: I don't even know. We work for Wells Fargo Bank.

980
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 7: That's just how like in general, it feels like the

981
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 7: answer to a lot of our problems are like community

982
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 7: and community based solutions because like if people if the

983
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 7: if people gave a ship at work, or if people

984
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 7: gave a shit at home or whatever, we would like

985
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 7: shit like that would not happen if we were like

986
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 7: checking up on each other more and have the ability

987
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 7: and the time off to do so.

988
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, like everything you know, even with like housing

989
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: and stuff like this, everything, if if we just get

990
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: corporations out of it, like if they didn't buy up

991
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: all the homes and we had again community based solutions

992
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: to policing and like social safety nets and all these

993
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: other things. Yeah, that would be that. I agree, I

994
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: agree you, and hey, take those sick days.

995
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 7: I've been shitting on my mom a lot. But she

996
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 7: really was like the first mutual aid person that I

997
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 7: know of, like growing up, because she would like make

998
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 7: food for like the old people in our community and

999
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 7: like go to their homes and help them and like

1000
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 7: clean their like places, just like as a friend. Like

1001
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 7: all of that shit that is mutually. Yeah, immigrant parents

1002
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 7: taught us about like.

1003
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, oh, so and so's you know, like

1004
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: aunt died. I'm gonna go bring some food over there,

1005
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: Like you know, you should have raised in a thing

1006
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: where at least, like you know, culturally, if there's food

1007
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: is such a love language that Yeah, just like the

1008
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: first instincts, like I don't even have words. I can

1009
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: make food.

1010
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 7: I can bring that like child care, like people like

1011
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 7: caring for each other's kids when stuff happens, or you

1012
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 7: know that sort of stuff. I wish that was just

1013
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 7: like I.

1014
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: Don't think I don't think anyone got the impression that

1015
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: your mother was a monster. I don't think that you

1016
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: would turn out of such a good person if you're

1017
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 3: thank you So I didn't. I don't. I don't want

1018
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: you to think, and I don't want the listeners to

1019
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: think that.

1020
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 7: The clip from the episode.

1021
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 9: That I'm such a.

1022
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: Good person, they'll mash them onto one omni take. But yeah, wow,

1023
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: it's like we help each other. That seems to be

1024
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: the solution.

1025
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1026
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 8: I wish that was so separate from like church culture too,

1027
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 8: like a lot, but so much of like community is

1028
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 8: like outside of like gay culture to me, is framed

1029
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 8: in like church. You know, and like, I feel like

1030
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 8: this generation, my generation is not not like church going,

1031
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 8: but wants community and it's searching for that everywhere to

1032
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 8: find it online, which is cool, but that's not the

1033
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 8: same as in person.

1034
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's why you start. You're

1035
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: starting to see just like what that yearning for a

1036
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: community is, like how it's manifesting with like running clubs.

1037
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a huge thing that's happening. More

1038
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: and more people are like, I don't know, like it's

1039
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 3: just it. You don't have to be a good runner,

1040
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: but like a bunch of people get together and I

1041
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: can just talk to a bunch of people over a

1042
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: shared interest and then afterwards people hang out and I'm

1043
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: that's great.

1044
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 7: Or that's why jay Z joined his walking club because

1045
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 7: Beyonce doesn't do interviews. Okay, she's working, so she cannot

1046
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 7: talk to him. He's lonely and he needs to go

1047
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 7: on walking.

1048
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: But just take a little stroll. Yeah, that's happens. It's

1049
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. All right, that's gonna do it.

1050
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Speaker 1: For this week's Weekly Zeitgeist, Please like and review the

1051
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: show if you like.

1052
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 3: The show means the world to Miles.

1053
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: He he needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having

1054
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: a great weekend and I will talk to him Monday.

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Speaker 1: Bye Stutt