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Speaker 1: If you are returning to the show. Then, uh, well

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Speaker 1: joined as always by the other brand new father of

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Speaker 1: I'm just happy that mom was doing good, babies doing good,

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze doesn't bring that kind of not saying he's

425
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Speaker 1: a bad coach. I'm just saying he doesn't bring that

426
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Speaker 1: that that I said yesterday, the it factor that prime

427
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Speaker 1: time does I do love a good like? Um A

428
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: question that is maybe a bit unfairly set up, but

429
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: kind of reinforces your point, Like, yes, if you ask

430
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Speaker 1: me who I would rather go have lunch with between

431
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: Dion and Hugh Freeze, the answer is Dion a thousand

432
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Speaker 1: times out of thousand. Like it may not make him

433
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Speaker 1: the better coach, but absolutely anybody on the planet Earth

434
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: would rather go eat lunch with Dion Sanders than Hugh Freeze. Um,

435
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Speaker 1: if you're writing a check to a football program, would

436
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: rather write it to hand it to Deon Sanders? Exact? Yes, everything.

437
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: Always this conversation that you continue to kind of double

438
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: down on the question, that's maybe a bit in in. Um,

439
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't know bad faith is the right term, Like

440
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: you could argue, well, I mean what does that have

441
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: to do with football? Blah blah blah. Yeah, okay, thank

442
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: you think that's what I'm looking for? Thank you? Probably yes,

443
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: but I love a good nonsecredar arguments that plays a point.

444
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: And that's one of the best I've ever heard, because yes,

445
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of it be the head coach. Uh

446
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: are going out to those lunches and shaking hands and

447
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: creating belief. Uh. And so I look, Dion's here's my deal. Um.

448
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: From a hype standpoint in a pr standpoint. Absolutely, Auburn

449
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: screwed it up going to Freeze over Dion Sanders, because

450
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean Auburn, like we talked about the other day,

451
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: literally had to hire a PR firm. Uh, simply because

452
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: they knew they were going to hire Freeze. The preemptive

453
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: hiring of a PR firm is a red flag for

454
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Speaker 1: a hiring process. You could say, if it was Dion,

455
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: it would have just been all glitz, glamours, celebration, like

456
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: you said, juice energy. Now I think in terms of

457
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: if I'm an a d and I'm thinking from a

458
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: risk management standpoint, who do I think will have more

459
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: success on the football field? Uh, it probably feels like

460
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: I could make the argument that deon ceiling is higher

461
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: UM and Dion's resume, though short, is absolutely spectacular, Like

462
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: it is truly stellar. But there is no denying the

463
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: weight of the Hugh Freeze football resume, which is good.

464
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: He has been good everywhere he has been UM. Generally,

465
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: if a coach wins every level of football, which he

466
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: has done, high school, small college, big college, UM, then

467
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 1: that coach is going to continue to win. Right, So

468
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: I think with John Cohen, maybe with like a higher

469
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: floor type of higher here, and as Hugh Freeze, who

470
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Speaker 1: who who can guarantee I think um at least stability

471
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: and like you know, win in around ten games a

472
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: year or whatever for Auburn. Um. But but but he

473
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: also maybe missed some of the heights that Dion could

474
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Speaker 1: potentially climb. As if you just look in the early

475
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: the early resume, like I said, it still all blow

476
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Speaker 1: up definitely. I mean he's only had his son for

477
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: his quarterback the entire time, right, like, like we haven't

478
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: seen him transition from environment environment recruiting class to recruiting class.

479
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: He just sold you all this idea of what it

480
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: meant for him to be in the HBCU and then

481
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: kind of dropped it pretty quickly to get to Colorado.

482
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: And so like, uh, there's there's some red flags there

483
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: as well. But um, so yeah, I guess Hugh Freeze

484
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: is a safer higher. He's gonna be consistent. Obviously a

485
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: better football resume. Uh, Dion would have been maybe the

486
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: more risky, the more exciting, higher, more potential to blow

487
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: up in a bad way, but more potential also maybe

488
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: to blow up in a really good way. I would

489
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: rather I just question answer. Ever, Yeah, I would rather

490
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: have if if I'm a five star kid, I'm I'm

491
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you these kids are more receptive to

492
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: the Dion personality what Deon bringing than Hugh Freeze like

493
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: at the end. So I don't know. I Well, we'll

494
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: find out. I'm I am rooting for Dion, like I'm

495
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: super excited about this whole thing. Another thing that I

496
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: want to get your your thoughts on T Bob is yesterday, Uh,

497
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: there was a big you know now, I would say,

498
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: somewhat of a conflict with with with with part of

499
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: the stuff that he was saying to his team. Essentially,

500
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: he looked at the roster, in my opinion, and said,

501
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: go hit the transfer portal because I want guys that

502
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: are competitors, that are hard workers, that are dedicated blah

503
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: blah blah. And and I guess some of the kids

504
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: afterwards literally took it as in they texted some of

505
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: their former coaches or coaches that were on the staff

506
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: that are probably gonna let go and said, did Dion

507
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: just tell us to leave? And it's been kind of

508
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: the big debate. Did he say you need to get

509
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: your ass in the portal? I took in it as

510
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: and I'm fine with him saying this, Hey, man, if

511
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: you don't want to be here, I'm bringing in guys

512
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: from from my school that I know are dogs, he said,

513
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: that are gonna be grinding away, and I know they're

514
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: gonna work their tails off that want to be collegiate

515
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: football players. And and I'm gonna find other guys, whether

516
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: it's the high school ranks or in the portal, that

517
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: want to be at Colorado, that want to put in

518
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: the work, that want to win football games. And anyways,

519
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: he didn't say this with my thoughts. You were one

520
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: and eleven, so obviously you guys aren't very good. So

521
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: any coach is gonna come in there and try to

522
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: revamp if he wants to win. So I was perfectly

523
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: fine with him telling those kids to their face, if

524
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to be here, and if you don't

525
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: want to work, there's the portal. Go. It's be getting

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Speaker 1: So look, I don't care if you like playing future spreads, moneylines,

534
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Speaker 1: you would a parlay multiple games, you would do a

535
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544
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I hate to feel like I'm like the old man

545
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: or the cool guy trying to be like that's football dude,

546
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: because because I mean, if you'll listen to the show,

547
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: I I like to believe that you think that I'm

548
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: not just generally falling into that stereotype of like like

549
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: come the funk on, dude, like this is just like, like,

550
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: this is exactly what a new coach needs to say,

551
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: and much worse has been said in the past as well.

552
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: He like, like yar said there one in eleven, dude,

553
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a clear rhetorical technique that he is

554
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: using that is going to weed out the week. If

555
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: he tells you to transfer and you transfer your soft

556
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: you were always going to transfer. If he tells you

557
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: to transfer and you don't, he's probably gonna keep ffan

558
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: with you, like he's probably gonna keep messing with you.

559
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna be I told you to leave,

560
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: You're still here. I told you to leave. And the

561
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: guys who stick around are the exact guys that he

562
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: will eventually want to stick around, because those are the

563
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: tough guys, the glue guys, the guys that make up

564
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: the integrity and the character of a team, the guys

565
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: who leave after that meeting or leave when the new

566
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: conditioning comes in it's way hard and they've done before

567
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: or whatever, like, yeah, those guys need to go because

568
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: that's why you kind of got here in the first place.

569
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: So and and and it is kind of interesting, maybe

570
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: gets the light of like a Matt Rule where he

571
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: shows up to those players like I came here to

572
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: coach you. But we do have to remember there's also

573
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: no one way to get this stuff done right because

574
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: Matt Rule may say that publicly in the first meeting,

575
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: but he's gonna keep some guy who he thinks its

576
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: soft and doing bad after spring. He's gonna bring him

577
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: aside privately and tell him, hey, look, we think you

578
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: should hit the portal. So like Dion, just being maybe

579
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: a bit more upfront about it. It's a different style

580
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: of leadership. But it ain't nothing like it is nothing

581
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: that deserves criticism. Uh, it's it's just I would rather

582
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: the upfront, more real approach where it let's all know

583
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: exactly where we stand in this thing, Like everybody wants that.

584
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't care what your job is. You want to

585
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: know with your boss where do I stand? And it

586
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: allows everybody to make clear decisions about what needs to

587
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: be done. Well. Al's the thing too as a player,

588
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: like I want to know like if I'm not a starter,

589
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: if I'm a second third shrink guy like I like

590
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: you said, like I want to know where I stand,

591
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: Like if you don't think that I can play here

592
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: in Colorado, and I do feel like I can play

593
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: collegiate football, whether it's in a you know, a Power

594
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: five setting or a group of five setting. Just tell me, like,

595
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: don't waste my time. I don't want to waste your time.

596
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: Dion obviously has his agenda and what he wants to

597
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: do to build a roster the way he wants to.

598
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Obviously he had success at Jackson State. I mean, yes,

599
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: say what you want. It's not a Power of five job.

600
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: But to win two championships in that league too, well,

601
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I think lose only one game, that's pretty damn impressive.

602
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: So it's gonna that year one. But he knows what

603
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: he wants in order to build a football team, and

604
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: for him to be honest up front with those guys

605
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: to let him know what his vision is and if

606
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: if they're don't feel like they're a part of it,

607
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: then that's what the transfer report was made for. It

608
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: is made for if you are not getting your shot

609
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: and you feel like you deserve it, you want to

610
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, then you get one free go kid,

611
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: go find another home. Ain't nothing wrong with it. We

612
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: we are over the bitching and moaning about how college

613
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: football has changed and how these kids have too much power.

614
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: This is why it was made. It was made to

615
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: help you in situations like this, when you lose a

616
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: head coach and your coach goes somewhere else or gets

617
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: fired where you're not sulky saying, oh this sucks, I

618
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: didn't commit to this coach. Well good, okay, fine, you

619
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't commit to Dion. You don't have to stay. You

620
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: can go bye bye, go find a new hole straight up,

621
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: and then there's the door. Now, chances are if I'm

622
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: in Boulder, I ain't trying to leave. If I'm in Boulder,

623
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: don You're gonna have to drag me out of there,

624
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: because it seems like that area lines up with a

625
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: lot of my own interests and hobbies that I enjoy.

626
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I would I would love to live in Boulder, Colorado.

627
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: I would just love to visit Colorado more one day.

628
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Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever really have, and now

629
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Speaker 1: I don't think I ever have. Never done Rocks, never

630
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: done any of that. I've watched a little We're gonna

631
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: do a little Red Rocks, uh in August, a little

632
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Mount Joy. Okay, I don't know that was on stiff Yeah, Okay,

633
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: nice man, Uh yeah, I would look. You know, the

634
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: only thing I've seen out of Red Rocks is I've

635
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: watched that guy that just sprints down the steps like

636
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Speaker 1: I've watched probably like a hundred of his videos. It

637
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: stresses me out every time, but sometimes it never falls.

638
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how if he ever does fault, like

639
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna die almost immediately. I don't know how, how

640
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: how you could how you could survive? All right, So

641
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: it seems like we're in complete agreement. Then over over

642
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: dion Um, are we in a complete agreement that? Or

643
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: did Hooker? Because mhm did did Hendon Hooker get snubbed

644
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: not getting invited to New York? And Stuquava has been

645
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: at Sneaky Inn because it's like a thief in the night,

646
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: like Bilbo Baggins, like a tiny little hobbit. I don't

647
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: think so, I'm I mean, listen, I'm probably the wrong

648
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: person that aske because there's a Georgia helmet right behind me.

649
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: So I would obviously love to get someone who's a

650
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: little bit less bias towards the starting quarterback at their

651
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: alma mater. I think Stetson definitely deserves to be there. Um,

652
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: you know if anyone I would, you know, you could

653
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: make a case that Hennon deserves to be over there.

654
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: C J. Stroud, you know we we've we've talked about

655
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: this on the show before. Like you're in Ohio state quarterback.

656
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: We all know you're gonna put stats up. What what

657
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: impressive game of like you crap the bed verst Michigan?

658
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: You look god awful you had? He had his one

659
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: heisman moment. It was verse Michigan at home, and he

660
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: played horrifically? Is that a word? Perfectly? I think it's

661
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: horfect Okay, good. I just didn't roll off the tongue

662
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: as well as I wanted it too. So I was

663
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: a little bit as tall as you like being child

664
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: comment from twenty minutes ago. Yeah, be clear, we were

665
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: talking about put that in my head though he put

666
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: my head all right. Anyways, back to tell me, so,

667
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: if anyone, in my opinion did not deserve to be there,

668
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking c. J. Stroud out and putting Hennon Hooker

669
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: and aboff him as that number four guy. Okay, So

670
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: so it's Hooker, it's Stroud. Did Bryce Young make it

671
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: came and dug? Okay? Okay, that's um three quarterbacks in

672
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: the college football playoffs. And then I mean, here's the problem, dude,

673
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: here's the problem. Who cares about the Heisman anymore? It's

674
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: just a quarterback award? Like I mean, I know, I

675
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: guess where Davante Smith wanted, like a couple of years ago,

676
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: but like last year, Noel Anderson, when his year was

677
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: so like like he was such a outlier compared to

678
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: his peers. And then you look at this group of

679
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that's going to New York, like nobody's an outlier. No, no, no, no, no,

680
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: nobody feels like did anything truly special. So maybe now

681
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm just combining the old man takes of this just

682
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: being a down year for the award and I'm yelling

683
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 1: about it only going to quarterback. But in a year

684
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: where all of these quarterbacks feel interchangeable, why couldn't we

685
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: have thrown um like even like like a Blake Core,

686
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: like even knowing that he got hurt, or like a

687
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: Chase Brown or somebody in there. I just I don't

688
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: know if I'm feeling the Heman, I really don't give

689
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: a about it. There's two things that that happened this year.

690
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: One there's there isn't that Heisman guy. I think Caleb

691
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: is the best player in America. I don't get back

692
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: to that, and too, there isn't the elite football team

693
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: this year. There's just a weird year. Like college football

694
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: has been great, It's been entertaining. It's been I think

695
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: more entertaining than ever just because there isn't like this elite,

696
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: elite player and this elite elite football team. So every

697
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: week has been I would say, very very intriguing, a

698
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: lot of good storylines by going back to Caleb, and

699
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: I do think Caleb right now, the discussion would be

700
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: over and should be over if he didn't put fuck

701
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Utah on his fingernails, like it would be done because

702
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I've talked to some Heisman voters this week, and that

703
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: is their big hesitation. Like I think everyone agrees, like

704
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: who's the best player? That him painting his nails, who

705
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: keeps him from getting the Heisman? Then you are you

706
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: are truly breaking the award. In my mind, gatekeeper levels

707
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: of bullshit. Get the get them out, let me let

708
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: me bring it down, let me break it down. I agree,

709
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Like if I had a vote, I would pick Caleb one.

710
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: I think he's the best player in America. They're thought

711
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: about the award and obviously this is this is like

712
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: ten voters. This isn't. I don't know how many voters

713
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: there are. I think there's too many. Anyways. Their reason

714
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: is the Heisman is more than just being the best

715
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: player in America. Like, yes, that's a big part of it,

716
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: but you are representing the most prestigious, one of the

717
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: most prestigious awards out there. And a guy that does

718
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: that and puts that on his fingernails is not someone

719
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: that we want representing this award. I'm with you, t Bob.

720
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just laying out the facts for you

721
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: right now that if Caleb loses by a small fraction

722
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: comes Saturday night, it's because of what he put on

723
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: his fingernails. Bro. That is some soft holier than without Again.

724
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: MLB Hall of Fame voting Wright and b s right there.

725
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is, like I don't know, man,

726
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the award again, the award is flawed because in football, uh,

727
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: it's a sport that is unlike any other where. The

728
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: position of quarterbacks like chess, like the queen, it's just

729
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: worth more than every other piece on the board and

730
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: we've discovered that nowadays, more than ever, it's like that

731
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: position is becoming more and more of the engine that

732
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: drives everything. And so if you don't make this a

733
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: quarterback only, I don't know. I guess, I guess it

734
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. He just continuing. Every now and then

735
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: somebody like Davante Smith breaks through him. It's just that

736
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: nobody else ever gonna have. But then again, if you

737
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: get rid of like and also at the same time

738
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: that if you take the quarterbacks out in the other

739
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: place where they don't mean anything, and then you only

740
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: care about the new Quarterback award, yes, it just is

741
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: what it is, um, But yeah, I don't really so

742
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that I can say that anybody got

743
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: snubbed because I don't really care that anybody, like the

744
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: The only person I feel bad for is Hooker, But

745
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I only feel bad because he got hurt, and so

746
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: like this is even more salt in the wound on

747
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: top of all the bs he's had to deal with.

748
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: If they had taken care of I don't think they

749
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: have gone to New York hed have gotten hurt. They

750
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: had beat in South Carolina into that's just like more

751
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: pain for him. But but but again, yes, since he

752
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: wanted have one. It's not like I feel like anybody's

753
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: being done any great injustice and a lot of times again,

754
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are important if you are the best, if you're

755
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the best team for two years running,

756
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: you've got the natty ring like of course you're going.

757
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: It's like kJ mccaron, It's like AJ mccaren a. J

758
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: was there our senior year. His stats were nowhere near

759
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: probably deserving it going, but he was a guy that

760
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: had been on a national championship team for two straight

761
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: years and was well respected by the college football community.

762
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: And I don't remember who else was in there besides

763
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: Jamis Um did he have his chess tattoo at the time,

764
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: because the beginning chess tattoo should be way more offensive

765
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: than cab boys paying his nails. That is so so true,

766
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Bama boy Um. But yeah, no, look and and and

767
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: if you look, the bottom line is if you're the

768
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: quarterback of a winning team, it matters even even do

769
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: ship for it, right, Look at Trent Dilford and that

770
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Ravens team. He gets to be Super Bowl winning quarterback.

771
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, same thing. Uh my old man

772
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: try to try to even get didn't get brought back

773
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: the next year Dilford. Yeah, they were like that, Trent

774
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: dolfor to you. That's right, Yeah, that's right. Um, I

775
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: got a good trend Dealfer story for you one day,

776
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: tent Trent. Trent doesn't really like me too much. Oh okay,

777
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm intriguingly. What did you did you screw up the

778
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: Elite eleven or something I did actually paid for? Really here, yes,

779
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: give you a quick you're gonna give me a quick

780
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: story of why Trent Dilford doesn't like me. Yeah. So

781
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: when I went to the Elite eleven back in my

782
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: day as a contestant, obviously it was an Honor's Top

783
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: eleven Quarterbacks in America. And then we had you know,

784
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: our our you know, college quarterbacks come in to work

785
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: with us, guys like we don't think we had Chase Daniel.

786
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I think we had Mark Sanchez. Um Stafford I think

787
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: was one of the counselors too. So there's like four

788
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: or five current college quarterbacks that were there. Um Colet

789
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Brennan was their quarterback at Hawaii. Anyways, it's fun. It

790
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: was fun, like we would wake up. We would do

791
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback competitions, drills. We would work with the

792
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: older guys, and then the afternoons we would like go

793
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: to like Disney or we go to the beach and

794
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: we would go to dinner. And it was just it

795
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: was an award. It was a it like, you are

796
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: have been given this opportunity. We're gonna work and have fun.

797
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna learn from each other. But this is a

798
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: this is awesome, it's fun. And I had some of

799
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: my best friends. I went to that camp with Fast

800
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Forward again, invited back as a counselor. This is my

801
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: junior junior year, and I go and it has completely changed.

802
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: Stilford took over and he made it competitive. We're like

803
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: kids are there all day long. They were competing in

804
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: seven on seven and one on ones and scores and

805
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: this and that, and you can get cut and sent home.

806
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: So kids aren't there to make friends, They're not there

807
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: to have fun, They're there to convene. He made it

808
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: into hunger games, which I didn't like because I'm telling

809
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: the kids like all the all day, like like, man,

810
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: this is the summertime. This is the best time in

811
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: your life. Have fun, make friends, with these guys, you're

812
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: gonna play against him in college. He didn't like that.

813
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: And then going back to when I was like a

814
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: player in in high school, the counselors would get a

815
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: limo and get to go out on the town. So

816
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: I remember I went up to him. I was like, hey, man,

817
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: do we get to go like on the town. It

818
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: was like me, EJ, Manuel and some other guys, and

819
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: He's like, you want to have fun. This is competition.

820
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: We're here to work, We're here to grind. I'm like,

821
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: it's summertime, gonna have some fun. So I said, screw that.

822
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: So e J and I and and some of the

823
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: other guys we went out of the town and we

824
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: said that all night, and like we missed like the

825
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: four am maybe wake up call where they took the

826
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: kids on the beach and did the Navy workout at

827
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: four him. So he was all hissed at me that

828
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't taking it's serious enough that I wasn't dedicated

829
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: to I'm like, it's summertime, tread like, let's chill and

830
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: have a little fun. Like this isn't like they're crying

831
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: when he's cutting kids, like way too much drama. Way

832
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: too much. Yeah, why are you cutting kids? Tring? It's

833
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: not that serious, relaxed, it was high score. Wait wait

834
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: wait so you Johnny bron this is breaking s you

835
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel. The Manning Camp before it was cool, right

836
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: because do you remember that? So it was like a

837
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: huge story for a while. There were Johnny Manzel went

838
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: to Manning Camp party too hard, They had to meet

839
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: with him, they sent him home. You you manzeld before

840
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: before it was even a big story. Hell yeah, dude,

841
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: Manzel in New Orleans. He Manzel somewhere else? Uh well

842
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: well also, I mean, yeah, that the camp that Manzel

843
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: went to in Thibodeau. But yeah, I guess it is

844
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: only like an hour away from New Orleans, the Thibodeaux Campus.

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Speaker 1: The Thibodeaux Campus. I've been there. That that is to

846
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Speaker 1: get rowdy, like one everyone I've I've I've been to

847
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Speaker 1: Rocks this. In fact, I'm pretty sure I got like

848
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Speaker 1: a great grandparent on my father's side that may have

849
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: started Rocks is like a hundred years ago or something. Uh,

850
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: I've had some nights and my little brother went there.

851
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: One of the best moments I ever had. Have you

852
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: ever played pub golf aaron no. Um. So they created

853
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: like like an eighteen whole course among all the bars

854
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and everything in in in the town. And how it

855
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: worked was like one stroke, you'd you'd buy the specialty

856
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: drink of the bar, and then one stroke was um,

857
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: you know you started chugging. If you put it down

858
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: or went too long without finishing, that was gonna be

859
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: a stroke. Right. So I'm working on a perfect score.

860
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just surfed down every single drink

861
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: and we get to the last bar sure enough, knock

862
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: it back. When the competition, it was my little brother,

863
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: like eight of his friends. They lifted me on their shoulders.

864
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: We had golf a tiro on. I took off my visor.

865
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: I was saluting like the ten people that were there

866
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: at nine thirty pm, as we were already entirely too drunk.

867
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: But I've never been, um, I've never had that before

868
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: outside of the mode. I've never been carried off of

869
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: the field of competition. And I gotta say it goes

870
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: back what we're talking about earlier. It's an incredible feeling

871
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: like I've never ridden the shoulders of other human beings.

872
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: And even though it's just a stupid pub golf competition.

873
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: It's a memory that will stick with me for the

874
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: rest of my life. It was awesome, it was very fun.

875
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Did you ever get carried off, Aaron? Did you ever

876
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: get carried off football field in high school or anything? Uh?

877
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: Not that I remember. No on the field after beating

878
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: A and M that one time. It was night the goat. Yeah,

879
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: sure of what I don't know? Um? All right, Aaron?

880
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Are you Garrett of Ohio State? All right? Well, this

881
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: goes to the next topic. The Smith and Jigba skips

882
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: the bowl game a little bit. Uh, I would be

883
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more concerned if he was playing. Um,

884
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be really piste off. I was his teammate, though, Like,

885
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: if you're healthy and this isn't a bowl game, this

886
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: is like our opportunity to win a national championship, and

887
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: maybe our best player on the football team was the

888
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: best receiver, one of the best shivers in the country.

889
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 1: Last year when Off obviously off in the Rose Bowl,

890
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of expectations heading into the season, is

891
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: saying I'm going to opt out and move on and

892
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: get ready for the NFL Draft. I'd be so so

893
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: so ticked off if I'm an Ohio State football player

894
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: now and fan to like once, it's like, this isn't

895
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: a bowl game. This is an opportunity to beat the

896
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: defending national champions and go on to to get pop

897
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: probably most likely a rematch against your your your your

898
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: enemy number one Michigan, and then beat them win a

899
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: national championship. And you're saying, I'm okay, I'm just gonna

900
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: get ready for the NFL Draft. So I don't know

901
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: if it's because he still is banged up and and

902
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: maybe he isn't gonna be healthy enough to play in

903
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: this game, so he's just like I'm just gonna declare

904
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: and get this over with now or what. But if

905
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: you are healthy and you're skipping on a chance to

906
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: win a NASH championship, shame on you. That's all I

907
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: gotta say. Shame on you. I'm hoping that's not the case.

908
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: So it looks like you may have some inside sources

909
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: in the chat. I'm gonna put this to the heavy

910
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: heavy heavy alleged on their zones six is I had

911
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: a class of him and he withdrew months ago, and

912
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: that's right in the d we say now that he

913
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: was eligibly stopped going to class. That is something that

914
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: happens nowadays. Even outside that, I I agree. I agree

915
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: with everything you said, Aaron. If I'm a teammate anything

916
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: like that, I'm freaking pissed because you know, like you said,

917
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to beat Georgia, trying to win a championship.

918
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: Like we got back in the playoff. We have a

919
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: chance to atone for our sins. We don't have to

920
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: wait three d sixty five days to make it right

921
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: like we can go make it right now. We need

922
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: everybody that we can have. Um that said, if I'm

923
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigba, I'm out, like out dude. I know,

924
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know it sucks. I know it sucks.

925
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: I know I know it's frustrating. And you can say

926
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: he's not a team guy move and you're not entirely wrong.

927
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: But I haven't played all year. I have not played

928
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: all year. I need to get ready for the NFL,

929
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: coming back for a game where I can be potentially rusty,

930
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: like I have no the The opportunity to wagh hurt

931
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: my draft stock versus helping it is immense. And then

932
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: you consider, oh wait, I get a jump started my

933
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: competition getting ready for the Combine, which is different training

934
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: than football training. Like it sucks. It sucks, But I

935
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: get why Jackson's Smith Jigma is out and I probably

936
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: I probably would be as well. I disagree, like, yeah,

937
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: combines great and stats, but a guy of his caliber

938
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: and he goes up there and shows you he's healthy

939
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: is not going to help or hurt his draft stock

940
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: in a company. What if he looks bad, Like what

941
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: if he's rusty because he hasn't played well. I think

942
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: they take that into they make an excuse like, hey, man,

943
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: he's he hasn't played all year. He's a little bit rusty. Like,

944
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he hurts himself unless he literally physically

945
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: hurts himself by going out there and playing in a

946
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: football game. I he only helps his draft like by

947
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: going out there and saying, yes, I am still that guy.

948
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: I Am still that guy that you remember that went

949
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: off of the Rose Bowl last year. And then if

950
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: he has an average game, you can say, hey, I'm rusty,

951
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm going against the number one defense in the country

952
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: and now I'm just gonna go get ready to proven

953
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: that I'm healthy and now I'm gonna go kick some ass.

954
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: At the combine UM as a competitor. It still pains

955
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: me that I got I'm slowly warming up to the

956
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: whole bowl game thing. I get it. Bowl games have

957
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: been devalued greatly. It's fine, I understand it. This is

958
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: in your opportunity to go. You went to the University

959
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: of Ohio State because you thought you can win a

960
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: national championship, and it's right there for you, and you're

961
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: you could literally put this team over the top. Imagine

962
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: having both those guys trying to stop them and you're saying, nah,

963
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm good, Like yeah, he's like, nah, y'all did great man,

964
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: y'all made it to the playoffs without me. Keep it that,

965
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: keep that, keep running, you keep you. I'll say this

966
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: right now too. If they win it all, I'm not

967
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: giving him a ring. He ain't getting damn ring. He

968
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: probably I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.

969
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: He got one, he quit on it. I would not

970
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: want him to get a ring. He probably gets a

971
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: ring anyway, But I can understand not not not wanting

972
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: him to get a ring. If you do get done

973
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: and look and then if you do win, then honestly, um,

974
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: he's the one that has to live with that right,

975
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: no matter how much money you make in the NFL,

976
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: if you missed out on being a real part of

977
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: that natty team, Like, even if he gets a ring,

978
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: he's not gonna feel a part of that team. And

979
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: so like, if he misses out on that, that that

980
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: that sucks, because that's type of stuff where when he's

981
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: old and successful and retired, he'll be thinking about, Man,

982
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: I had of it all, but I would have really

983
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: really I wonder if I just would have stuck around

984
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: for those final two games. Uh, you know, how would

985
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: it have been? Um? So, look, I agree with you

986
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: on everything you said. It's just that I've never been

987
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: in the position of having someone sit down and say

988
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you. You know you're gonna you're about

989
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: to make millions of dollars. Let's focus in here and

990
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: make the millions of dollars. And so I don't know

991
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: how I would react in that situation. I could see

992
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: where he's up getting from dro Drow another source in

993
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: the chat Jack Best Center, the transfer portal we'll see allegedly. Again,

994
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, even though you could tell me anybody, okay, okay,

995
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: cool cool, Um dude, Aaron, I gotta give you a

996
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: shout out, man, because I do not know, like this

997
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: is a ton of fun, but this all relaxed and

998
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: we're chilling, hanging out. Um, this is like three or

999
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: four three days after the baby was born Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

1000
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: four days maybe. Um, I don't know how you called

1001
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: a television college football game like two days after having

1002
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: a new born. That's some toughness right there, dude. That's

1003
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: why I believe you when you say all this, when

1004
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: you say all this shit about about how you would

1005
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: still play, because you have actually proven it are very

1006
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: recently and luckily I still have one of these on

1007
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: my finger. Uh. I know you had to get some trouble.

1008
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I gotta pay for them diapers, tea Bob, I get

1009
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: paid per game, So you know I'm missing feels it

1010
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. Gotta show up. Um oh man? Well, Uh, also,

1011
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: I meant to call you out on this like forty

1012
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: five minutes ago. Rewind the pod if you're listening. Aaron

1013
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: mentioned the websites that are constantly up on his computer,

1014
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: and he threw in up websites that RPG for no reason,

1015
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: completely unnecessary. No one brought up we just like was

1016
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: he implied, Aaron, did you think that we think that

1017
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: you just have born open on your computer? Seven? Yeah,

1018
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't expect you have a year on walking around,

1019
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, constantly watching not for for you, for you,

1020
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: brom for you brom Like you know you don't know this,

1021
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: but like once your wife gives birth, you can't really

1022
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: do much for about six weeks. This is true. No,

1023
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: it looks and I am not shaming the use of

1024
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: enjoyed adult entertainment. I mean, go look at the Pornhub

1025
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: analytics they released every single year, Like the amount of

1026
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: porn that we consume is undeable, But nobody ever talks

1027
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: about if you have any content on constantly ready to yes, yes, exactly. No.

1028
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a very funny inclusion that, like, Okay,

1029
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: nobody was I think if I was challenging that point,

1030
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: but okay, man on three did not mention your website

1031
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: for research? Um? All right, boys, look this is so

1032
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,360
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1033
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,680
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1038
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Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Um yeah, I kind of agree Hamilton.

1039
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: A lot of related stuff going on there now, but

1040
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: that's a different conversation for a different day. Um. Huge

1041
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: thank you to Aaron Murray holding down the fort while

1042
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: I was out. Our guy, Ryan Brumley, Paul Ferrytim pet Gunner, Uh,

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1044
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000
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1045
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,719
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1047
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: want to come in here and hang out with us. Um,

1048
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: Aaron anything on the way out here. It got it all,

1049
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: hit it all, adios, brother, see tomorrow, all right, Marvi's

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