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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beca, Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in.

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Speaker 3: Yes we are.

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Speaker 2: We have the most special guest today.

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Speaker 4: That's right, my.

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Speaker 3: Favorite your favorite person in the world. You can say yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're really practicing maturing and boundaries over here.

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Speaker 1: So she's a oought to be your favorite person in

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Speaker 1: the world. Yes, as long as I'm second.

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Speaker 4: I love her so much. And yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Just a little generation there it's her and then you

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Speaker 2: perfect right there under her.

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Speaker 3: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: She is obviously the love of my life. But beyond that,

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Speaker 2: she is a pop star. She's an actress's a she's

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Speaker 2: a director, and she's an author. She's an LGBT plus

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Speaker 2: advocate like she does it all.

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Speaker 1: But you know, she's here today for one very specific

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Speaker 1: reason because she has published yet another book, which is

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Speaker 1: available now for pre order. I know how hard it

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Speaker 1: is to sell books, and pre order really does matter,

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Speaker 1: so please pre order it. It's called Where There's Room

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Speaker 1: for Us by Hailey, Kyoko and Becca.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to do the honors?

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Speaker 4: Please? Welcome back to the Scrubbing n O R Hailey kiyok.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much. I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: This is like the base just tecking at me because

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Speaker 1: this is like the big moment, like this is crunch

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Speaker 1: time for you. So it is before we even get

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Speaker 1: into the R interview, Okay, our very serious interview. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would like everybody to get on their phones and

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Speaker 1: pre order where there's room for us by Hailey Kyoko,

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Speaker 1: because we're in that window. Yes, pre orders make such

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Speaker 1: a difference. Pre orders are everything for ever your times, bestsellers, everything,

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Speaker 1: So this is like the the very important moment. So

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Speaker 1: the more we can sell, the better. Exactly, send link

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Speaker 1: to your friends, thank you to your loved ones.

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Speaker 3: Everywhere.

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Speaker 5: You can get it on Barnes and Obama pretty much

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Speaker 5: anywhere you get a book, or if you do audio

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Speaker 5: books too, you can do.

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Speaker 4: That a cinematic experience.

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Speaker 1: And it's a great stocking stuffer. So there's no better

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Speaker 1: time to stock up holiday. I already started my holiday shopping,

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Speaker 1: so these are great stocking stuffers.

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Speaker 3: These could be a great white elephant gift. These could

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Speaker 3: be this is the ad I need it. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. You're so welcome. So if anybody. If tis now,

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Speaker 3: the time is now? If not now, when? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah it Taylor Jin can read who our Dear Friend?

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Speaker 4: I love your dear friend.

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Speaker 2: This is a book that feels like a glass of

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Speaker 2: water when you are parched. Thank you for writing it.

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Speaker 3: That's such a great.

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Speaker 4: Oh do you open it up to the dedication?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, oh yeah, let's let's let's just start it

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Speaker 3: with I brought the book. Then we've got hot pink pages.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually so beautiful. I've never book.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you read the dedication? Okay, I see it.

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Speaker 3: This book is dedicated to Becca.

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Speaker 4: Oh get that.

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Speaker 3: Falling in love with you has been the most rewarding

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Speaker 3: adventure of my life. Thank you for letting me share

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Speaker 3: a small ember of it. That's beautiful. Thank you so much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she loves it.

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Speaker 1: Starting strong, being like having a book dedicated to you

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Speaker 1: is like, that's so nice.

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Speaker 3: What better gift to receive?

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Speaker 4: Romantic? Yeah, she just like popped it in my face

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Speaker 4: one day and I was like, what.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to surprise her, but there was enough surprises

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Speaker 5: and she was going through a lot with surprise, so

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Speaker 5: I just was like, here, check this out.

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Speaker 2: Shall we talk about where do we begin the book

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Speaker 2: the concept of it, your your journey of writing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dear, what year did this begin?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's been years in the making. And I guess

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Speaker 5: we could start off with like, I'm a huge Pride

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Speaker 5: and Prejudice fan and I love period pieces, which is lol,

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Speaker 5: because Becca is not like a crazy period piece fans

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Speaker 3: So like, when she's out of town, I'll like binch Watch,

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Speaker 3: like you know, all the period pieces like Bridgerton. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love anything with a really uncomfortable wardrobe,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But so my dream was

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Speaker 3: Use our meet cute as like the inspiration.

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Speaker 5: And as I was putting it together, it was interesting

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Speaker 5: because I was like, oh my gosh, Like my goal

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Speaker 5: no way for this to end hopeful if it's in

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Speaker 5: like the actual like reality of the Victorian era. And

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Speaker 5: so as I was, you know, developing the story, I realized, Oh,

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Speaker 5: what if I do this like hyperreality kind of hyperrealism

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Speaker 5: thing where you can be queer, like you can be gay,

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Speaker 5: you can get married to a man or a woman,

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Speaker 5: but women are still not equal, and so two gay

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Speaker 5: men can inherit land and continue the family line, but

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Speaker 3: So it is set in eighteen hundreds, but like a

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Speaker 5: think Pride and Prejudice meets Little Women set in a

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Speaker 5: queer hyperreality where men are where queer people can exist,

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Speaker 5: but women aren't equal.

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Speaker 3: Hyper reality is like not reality.

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Speaker 5: It's like it's excuse, It's like we're there's still carriages

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Speaker 5: and like the whole thing. But it's like, what if

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Speaker 5: I just kept asking myself if I was myself who

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Speaker 5: how would I exist and how would I thrive? And

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Speaker 5: how would I move about falling in love and like

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Speaker 3: So the two characters in this book is it Freya

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: And then Ivy is you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So Ivy and Freya Ivan. If you're familiar with your

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Speaker 1: love story Haley and Becca. Right, well, we see it

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Speaker 5: like I obviously hype of reality. Well, still, our love

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Speaker 5: But basically the story that I think most scrubbers have

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Speaker 5: heard is like when we met at Chateau Marmont.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, like trying to set Haley up with your vacancy.

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Speaker 5: First time we met, and and and we got drinks

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Speaker 3: Did you hear about this we were getting do you

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Speaker 4: That's a really good part of the story that I

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Speaker 4: don't know if we've we've probably told it.

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Speaker 3: We can tell the story.

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Speaker 5: But basically that specific moment in our life, I basically

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Speaker 5: of like the catapults of their relationships. So let's go

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Speaker 3: Reallysed for reality part. The reality part of.

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Speaker 5: It is is that obviously, back when I met at

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Speaker 3: Yes, and then the three of you were supposed to

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Speaker 5: Like a group of people, and so we were going

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Speaker 5: I literally don't know this person, Like I do not

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Speaker 1: Doing it with me.

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Speaker 3: No, she's trying you look good. Maybe maybe it was

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Speaker 4: And so setting her up with my sister, I'll show her.

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Speaker 5: It was a wild moment where these like women kept

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Speaker 3: Book, how Ivy and Freya?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And I guess getting into the book more

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Speaker 5: just to set up the scene. So Ivy again hyperreality

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Speaker 5: in the sense of like America's more progressive than Europe

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Speaker 5: at this time and England, and so Ivy and her

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Speaker 5: brother Prescott from America, they moved to England to find

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Speaker 5: sisters and there's a bunch of sisters and a couple

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of the setup.

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Speaker 5: And so we go to England to kind of set

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Speaker 5: my character ends up falling.

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Speaker 3: In love with her. How does it end.

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Speaker 4: You'll have to prove the buyer.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't end, but maybe that season two or book two, yeah,

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Speaker 2: book the sequel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, So that's kind of the setup of

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Speaker 5: So it's like loosely based off of our meet cute

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Speaker 5: and then obviously it's been really you know, Beca's been

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Speaker 3: I didn't make that until now. There are different shades.

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Speaker 3: And that's why Girls Like Girls was so powerful.

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Speaker 5: It is because we don't get to see women be

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Speaker 5: get Girls like Girls made. It's just two girls falling

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Speaker 5: in love and ends in hope, and that took ten years. Yeah,

445
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 5: and it's never been made before.

446
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Speaker 3: That's wild. Yeah, and it's twenty twenty five.

447
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 5: And so that was my goal with Where There's Room

448
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 5: for Us is like I wanted to be inspired by

449
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 5: our love story and then bring it into a even

450
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Speaker 5: bigger world and find a way to maybe hopefully get

451
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Speaker 5: this made to be brought on to our screen so

452
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Speaker 5: people can be like, oh my gosh, I look like her,

453
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Speaker 5: Like I can succeed in life, you know, just representation

454
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Speaker 5: as a whole.

455
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Speaker 3: Where did a title come from?

456
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Speaker 2: So?

457
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Speaker 3: Where there's room for us? The great question?

458
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 5: I think for me, it's always like creating space and

459
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Speaker 5: like wanting to have space.

460
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Speaker 3: And so I liked the idea of a title of

461
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Speaker 3: having some thing of like where there's room for us,

462
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: of like, like, even when.

463
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Speaker 5: There's space, how do we fill up that space, and

464
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Speaker 5: how do we thrive in that space and how do

465
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Speaker 5: we take ownership in that space.

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting when you said, like, I don't know

467
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: what you call it in the movie world, but you

468
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: the Pinterest thing and not having a shot deck, not

469
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: having the amount of images to choose from and stuff

470
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Speaker 1: like that's so that's just so crazy. I feel like

471
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: when I was I didn't really use Pinterest, but anytime

472
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: I would type in anything that I needed, it was like.

473
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Speaker 3: It was there, right there, right there. Yeah.

474
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Speaker 5: And so imagine like as creators and filmmakers and authors,

475
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: and it's like you're trying to create something that hasn't

476
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: existed yet, and then you're trying to it makes it

477
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 5: super challenging because you're trying to prove to companies and

478
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 5: studios and people with lots of money that your idea

479
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 5: is a good idea and it's never been done yeah,

480
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 5: or there's no proof of concepts. And like that's why

481
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: writing books has been like such a freeing moment for

482
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Speaker 5: me because I can just like do what I want

483
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: and take it wherever I want without anyone else yeah,

484
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 5: telling me, oh, we can't afford this scene, or we

485
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: can't afford this or we can't do it here. It's

486
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 5: like no, like I can have the place called the

487
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Speaker 5: Bridge with lanterns and boats and you know, like meadows

488
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 5: and lavender fields, like I can do it all. And

489
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: this has been the most freeing medium in my life.

490
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Speaker 4: I think, do you have a dream cast for where

491
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Speaker 4: that could do?

492
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Speaker 2: No?

493
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Speaker 3: What that would be the day. I don't have a

494
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Speaker 3: dream past because like it could take like I don't know.

495
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying if it were to get mad, if

496
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Speaker 2: it were to get made in the speedy sense next.

497
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Speaker 3: Year, I haven't thought about that. Actually, really, that's like

498
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Speaker 3: the first thing I thought about.

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess I don't. I'm very like, once I

500
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 5: have an idea, I have to do it and it

501
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: has to happen. And so I try to not lock

502
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: myself into an exact vision because once I do it,

503
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 5: like if I were to be like it needs to

504
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: be whatever Margo, Robbie or whatever, if it didn't happen,

505
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 5: it could never happen.

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well she has.

507
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Speaker 3: She had.

508
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: There good answer, just like we rehearsed.

509
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

510
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: I feel like.

511
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Speaker 2: When we see like we obviously see you on the

512
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: podcast and people get to know you, but I do

513
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: feel like your social media you have really allowed people

514
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: to come in and see more of your personality.

515
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm trying.

516
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: Has that been challenging because I feel I have this

517
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: theory that people who are in the industry as like

518
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 2: actors or uh, celebrities, that there's this sense of need

519
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: to be perfect in terms of how they're presented. Did

520
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: you experience like I know that we've talked about you

521
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: experiencing that need of like everything needs to like be perfect.

522
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think, like, well, during the pandemic, I just like

524
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 5: I stopped posting a lot, and so it's taken like

525
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: years to kind of like get back because I used to,

526
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: like I mean when I was like fifteen, I was

527
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: like YouTube vlogging being likely and I'm getting on the

528
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 5: plane and here I am, And I don't know if

529
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 5: it's like getting older too. I also think like we

530
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: had such a private life for so long, so that

531
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: just like became like my normal and like my comfort.

532
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: But I am trying to like share more of like

533
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 5: my goofy side and me not being able to say

534
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: eyes yes if you've seen our TikTok. But I think

535
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: that's what was really fun about writing this book is

536
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 5: like kind of navigating, you know, it just have like

537
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 5: hints of my my perspective and my experience through this

538
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: book and like navigating entering a new space and meeting

539
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 5: someone that's like so different from me, and and finding

540
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: a way to just like make sure that we end

541
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: up together.

542
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, we don't talk about it a lot, but

544
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: we had to navigate a lot of things in our relationship.

545
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: And we've been together, you know, seven and a half years,

546
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: and there's been so crazy, a lot of hardships and

547
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: navigating like really hard conversations not only with each other

548
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: but with other people, and Haley, I have to say, like,

549
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: through it all, I don't know anything different, but I

550
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: realized how fortunate I was to have a partner who

551
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: was so patient. And also there were a few things

552
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: where I may have been like I'm out, amout yeah yeah,

553
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And it really is a testament to how

554
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: much how much you love me and our relationship and

555
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: wanted to be with me, and how much I wanted

556
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: to be with you. But I'm glad, like there's you

557
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: know that you have a way of expressing that because

558
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: there was a lot of time in our life that

559
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: was private before we came out publicly that it was hard.

560
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: I mean I think when you're well, right back at you, babe,

561
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 5: because you could have also been like, see, yah, this

562
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 5: is too hard. But I think it goes back to like,

563
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, you meet someone and like they might have

564
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 5: a totally different upbringing or they might have a totally

565
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: different religion or culture, and it's like you're navigating, Okay.

566
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: What are my boundaries?

567
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 5: Like what do I need in a partner, and like

568
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 5: can this person be come from a totally different world

569
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: than my world?

570
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: And like how do we meet?

571
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 5: And also it's kind of like in Us against the

572
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 5: World's kind of thing too, where it's like how do

573
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: you navigate your love and also navigate all the other

574
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 5: relationships that have expectations, whether it's family or friends, Like

575
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: people always have something to say, and so it's just

576
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: like navigating a new relationship, navigating all of all of

577
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 5: these people's like feelings and thoughts on your relationship, and

578
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: then like reclaiming your relationship and being like this is

579
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: our relationship and like if you're good, then I'm good,

580
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 5: and then the rest we'll figure out.

581
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something so beautiful about being with

582
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: someone like a partner that is from totally a different background,

583
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: because like I mean, I just I can't imagine being

584
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: with someone that's exactly or is exactly like me.

585
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: Well, it challenges you, It challenges you too, but.

586
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: It's such a beautiful thing to like learn and accept

587
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: and grow and like experience new things. And I don't know,

588
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: I just think it's like it's a beautiful way to

589
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: experience life.

590
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I but I think it takes courage, Like

591
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 5: and I think we live in a society that encourages familiarity,

592
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: encourages sameness, right, and just being like, you know, that's

593
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: what's easy, right, And so it takes a lot of

594
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: courage to be like, oh I haven't thought of it

595
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 5: that way, or oh, like there's another way to live,

596
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: or oh there's another way to be centered, or there's

597
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: another way to think about this, and so you know,

598
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: but that takes strength and not being a narcissist. So

599
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: self awareness is really key, it is, it is.

600
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But so with narcissism, there's like a lot of

601
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: narcissists out there, and I think it's like.

602
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 5: Eighty twenty we're in a world of about eighty percent narcist.

603
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: Yes, and you guys are not in it, so congratulations.

604
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we work hard at that, not being narcissists. But yeah,

605
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm just so proud of you. I'm

606
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: proud of us, I'm proud of our love and I'm

607
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: so I mean, reading your intro of all the things

608
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: you do is like it's it's so interesting because I'm

609
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: so familiar with it and I'm in it with you

610
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: and like the creativity and the process of it.

611
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Speaker 4: But when I when I'm reading it from this perspective,

612
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa, she does a lot. It's so impressive.

613
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: It really is so impressive. Like I'm.

614
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: Everything else aside just writing a three hundred page novel

615
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: is so hard, and I'm so proud of you, and

616
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: it looks beautiful and I do I want to manifest

617
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: and I hope that you that this can become like.

618
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Speaker 4: Your time New York. Yeah, there, Cellar.

619
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: But also I could see it becoming like a Netflix binge.

620
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah we a binge, we get another binge? Yeah, like

621
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: a girly pop binge.

622
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: Tanya will be directing it, Yeah, I could be in

623
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: charge of the soundtrack exactly.

624
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: Why so Tanya wrote a song and she wanted to

625
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: present it to you, but we're going to take a

626
00:31:38,920 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: break and we'll be right back, all right. So in

627
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Monday's episode, Tanya was sharing a song that she has

628
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: written herself, and she performed a little snippet of it

629
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: on that podcast and then I thought, wow, you should

630
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: you should sing it, Na Haley, just to get any feedback.

631
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: And the floor is yours stle.

632
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: Where those room for us. It feels like there's a

633
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: sacrifice involved. Both parties have to sacrifice, sacrifice for love.

634
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: It's a thankless job.

635
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: You run off and do what you want, sacrifice for love.

636
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: But should the other one sacrifice too? Should it fades out?

637
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: That wasn't really beautifl and I loved that you were

638
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: staring into my eyes the entire time, no blinking necessary.

639
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm on Like that felt intimate. Yeah,

640
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: thank you, Tanya. That was beautiful. You're welcome.

641
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean would you turn your chair around? Yeah?

642
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, I'd be like, what is that song? Yeah? Wow,

643
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: we'll talk, Yeah, we'll talk people maybe yeah, viol violin

644
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: A violent version of that would be really lovely Victorian era, Yeah,

645
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: that would be absolutely stunning.

646
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 4: So we did get engaged almost four months ago.

647
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild. I know, time flies. Time flies when

648
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: you're having fun.

649
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: And the people are, you know, curious, Well they got

650
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: some curious. They're so curious about it's serious. What the

651
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: next plans are? Okay, the next steps?

652
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything you'd want to share.

653
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: Oh, is there something you want to share?

654
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't have anything to share.

655
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: I hope to be proposed to. You are going to

656
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 3: I'm relaxed now.

657
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: Oh, you're just relaxing too.

658
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: No.

659
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like, you know, once you put a ring

660
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: on it, then we'll get the ball, get the ball

661
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: rolling on plans and stuff. But I've heard from many

662
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 5: people to have a long engagement because they said it's

663
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: like such an amazing like chapter and so you know,

664
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying that. No, I'm really enjoying my fiance, I say.

665
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 5: And if you get to the end of the book,

666
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: you know, spoiler alert, spoiler alert, whoa, there's some bells ringing?

667
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not, I don't know. You got to read

668
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 3: the book. I'm so looking forward to your wedding. Oh yeah,

669
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm excited to bok excited to read book. I'm like,

670
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm excited for you to read the book, and I'm

671
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: excited for the wedding. I'm excited for it all. I'm

672
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: really excited too. I wanted to so.

673
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: Tanya has offered that if I if you need any

674
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: help planning my birthday next.

675
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: Week, she is of service, so that would be great.

676
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

677
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: I told her that you would reach out if you

678
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: needed anything because you saw her in action during the.

679
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 3: It was really harassive. Yeah, I've never seen anything like it.

680
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: You guys are crazy.

681
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, she talked about it a lot.

682
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: I was really impressed your planning skills. Yeah, so honored.

683
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: I feel thoughtful, very thoughtful. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome.

684
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: I'll text you after this. Perfect. How many interviews do

685
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: you have lined up? I have a few, but I

686
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: wanted to come here first.

687
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: You know what could be at the book tours?

688
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: Well, depending on the city, there's uh, there's met and

689
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 5: greets at every city, I believe, and then there's Q

690
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: and a's in a couple of the cities.

691
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Uh. So that's what you should expect. Unfortunately, no like

692
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: concert performance, you know, no acoustic performance a recession.

693
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: Sorry, all right, I'm really excited. It's just like so

694
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 5: lonely online sometimes and so I'm so excited to see

695
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 5: people in person and just like reconnect with my community,

696
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: my people.

697
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 4: Haley's very much needs social interaction.

698
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 3: I don't.

699
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: But she like if we are just in the house

700
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: for too long, She's like, I it's time, I need

701
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: to I just have to.

702
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: Do one thing a day. Yeah, if I just do one,

703
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: what's the thing? Like go to Target? Yeah, oh okay, or.

704
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Like go to a grocery store, but not like you

705
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: don't need to go to like an you don't need

706
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: to go to dinner or like a No, I need

707
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: to leave the house once a day. Yes, and Becca

708
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: could be in the house for three plus days with

709
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: seeing with no oxygen, no fresh air, and then nothing

710
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: stop outside.

711
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't have to.

712
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: I don't have to, but I do.

713
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

714
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: It is a really impressive thing, very like bare hibernation energy.

715
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: That's how I recover. But she gives a lot of

716
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: comfort from socializing. Yeah, like if I socialize, I need

717
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 2: to recover.

718
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you got on.

719
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: A Friday, you best believe Saturday, Sunday, Monday, she done.

720
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: We went to a party on Friday and we did

721
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: nothing Saturdays.

722
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: But she had to get up and go do something

723
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: and that was herding. She's fulfilled that she had an outing.

724
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that I can't sit. I can't watch

725
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: TV during the daylight. It's called something. It's called like

726
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: it's no, it's called something. It's called like she can't

727
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: watch daily. No, it's like something where you can't watch

728
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: TV during the day because it's no because you feel

729
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: bad because you should be like seizing the day.

730
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 5: Oh, I have that, but not a TV thing. I

731
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: just have that as like a baseline. Yeah, like I

732
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 5: have to go seize the day or like do something

733
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 5: like I cannot if I want. Even there's a show

734
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: that I love and I have the afternoon, I can

735
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: watch it at two pm. I will not watch until

736
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: like six. Really, yeah, it's sick we.

737
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: Put our TV in a spot where the glare makes

738
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: it impossible to watch to start watching it during the day.

739
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, really I love a day watch. But again I

740
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: still have to have my outing.

741
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I was speaking thinking about talking about

742
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: no acoustic performance because it's a recession. But are you

743
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: people I get dms all the time about you making

744
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: more music?

745
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: Are you working on music?

746
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: I am working on music. I you know, obviously just

747
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 5: staring at me. You know, did the Girls Like Girls

748
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: movie and we're you know, wrapping that up. But uh,

749
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: there's plans to have more music, a new album. We'll see,

750
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: we'll see.

751
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, do you know or do you just can't

752
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: tell us? I just can't tell you. That's fair. Yeah,

753
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: I tell you a lot of things though, for sure.

754
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

755
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've been I've been in the studio. I've

756
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: been writing music, so yeah, you know, stay tuned. I

757
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: have some really good songs that would work really well

758
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 5: for this book.

759
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: But like, oh there's a song, an unreleased song.

760
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a song, perfly.

761
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 5: I get to hear everything, but I think I'm gonna

762
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: wait and keep it for like future, you know what

763
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean.

764
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: Like it's got to be the right timing.

765
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't be released.

766
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: But I do have a collab with Cash Cash coming

767
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: out October thirty first, called Sadness. I just remembered October

768
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 5: this like Halloween, Yeah, like.

769
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: Is that next week?

770
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

771
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, October. There.

772
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: I do have a song, but I did it like

773
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 5: I did it a couple of years ago with these

774
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: guys Cash Cash it's called Sadness.

775
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: It's really cute, it's really catchy, really catching.

776
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: Weirdly found myself singing it and I haven't heard it

777
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: since she did it, which was like years ago, and

778
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: I found myself singing it and I was like, what

779
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: is this song that I'm singing?

780
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: That's good year worm?

781
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 4: Ye, yes, very sick.

782
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost askey as that.

783
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So you'll have a little bit of music

784
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: next week and then and then not till twenty twenty seven,

785
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Oh okay, yeah, okay, so albums you

786
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: squeezing the information out of me.

787
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, just give the people a tease, give the hand.

788
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's a lot. It's a lot, you know, Like,

789
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: it's just I'm I need to be everywhere I know

790
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: once and you want to give, you want to give

791
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: the book, like this is the time for the book.

792
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is the book, and the book tie

793
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and then and then the movie and then the album.

794
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.

795
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's doing fourteen things in one year.

796
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Correct. I can barely squeeze in three appointments in a day,

797
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, I like one appointment a day personally.

798
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: Do y'all have your Halloween coster. You have your Halloween costume? Yes,

799
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: we do, not you do.

800
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: Do you know what it is?

801
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: I do know?

802
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: Share talk of your hints.

803
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: This book is very giving. The vibe of my really interesting,

804
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: like a Bridger energy address as a book.

805
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: Colors, Oh wicked.

806
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: Nice. We have to figure out, we have to figure out.

807
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do, like literally today. I know, why

808
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: don't you be demon Hunters? I know, I love Yeah,

809
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it too, but Rob was like,

810
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: oh I love that, but I like being green. So

811
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out another clean.

812
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Moments only so much you can be.

813
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 3: You kidding track Guardians of the Galaxy, and you could.

814
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 4: Be I already threw that out there, but she didn't

815
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 4: want to be kermit.

816
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry.

817
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of my face being like you

818
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: have to wear both with that claw, it's like that

819
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 5: fuzzy cloth.

820
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: He's like a fuzzy cloth. Yeah, not Linen, What is

821
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: first all you said green? You didn't say it had

822
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: to not be.

823
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I like it to look

824
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: pretty real. I'd have to like build a cardboard face.

825
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, if I have time.

826
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 5: We'll see yeah, but I did think Shrek was a

827
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 5: good idea, but maybe not this year. It's a lot

828
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 5: feels very like time intensive. Yeah, I think you could

829
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 5: do it. You think you want to do my makeup

830
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 5: for it. I don't think you want me to do

831
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: your makeup for it. Let's just start there.

832
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: TVD, TVD. We got five day.

833
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: I'm pretty stressed.

834
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty stressed. It's fine.

835
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's fine. It'll be great either way.

836
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: And then we have our birthday, which is so fun,

837
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 5: so fun would be the best. Soak up thirty seven girl.

838
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, back spasms are on the way.

839
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: One year starts to go south.

840
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one year of pain free life.

841
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

842
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Can I talk about the audio book?

843
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

844
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 4: Please.

845
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: So the audiobook is phenomenal.

846
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to read it, but I ended up

847
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: reading the Ivy chapters because I can't do a British accent.

848
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: And then we got the amazing Jemima.

849
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: Kirk to read Freya's chapters, and so it's myself and

850
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 5: Jemima Kirk and then there's like amazing music in the

851
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 5: audiobook and it literally feels like cinema.

852
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: I'm like so proud of it.

853
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Cool.

854
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: I love an audiobook book personally. I enjoy reading. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

855
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: I enjoy them both. Yeah.

856
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 5: Well, and it gives for the If you're an audiobook person,

857
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 5: definitely listen to it because I'm.

858
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: Amazed, super super proud of it.

859
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 3: Where can everybody buy every it? You literally can get it.

860
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 5: Anywhere you get books and anywhere you get audiobooks, so

861
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 5: you know, you're any bookstores to Barnes and Noble, to

862
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: Amazon to Audible, like you can literally just type it

863
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 5: in and you'll find it. I also have a link

864
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: in my bio on Instagram.

865
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: And where can people follow you already? Just my name

866
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: hey like Kyoko on all platforms yeah, or you can

867
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: find me through Becca's Instagram too.

868
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me.

869
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 5: I'm so excited and proud of this book, and I'm

870
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 5: really excited for people to get to to see it

871
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 5: through the eyes of Ivy and Freya. So thank you

872
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: so much for supporting us and me and enjoy where

873
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: there's room for us.

874
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: Grubbers wait to read it.

875
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: We know how scrubbers show up, So go buy your

876
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: copy in any form. It's so beautiful, it's like a

877
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: relic is that what you call it? A relic?

878
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

879
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: Oh wait yeah. And two you can take the top off,

880
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: So I did that with girls and girls tooo. So

881
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: that's like it's like a chic like a coffee table book.

882
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

883
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: So pretty art art.

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Speaker 4: She thinks of everything.

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Speaker 3: Yes, es, love you guys, We love you.

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