WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Help in the Trenches? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.480 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:13.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.640 Player's Laue, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:24.040 the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:32.200 NEWI Scrugs. Monday Draft Monday, first round kicks off Thursday, 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.920 Yes it does. You know you know what's next? Man? Hey, 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.040 it's the Cowboys year. You know, as soon as that 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.760 draft talk roll around, you know what they say next? Man, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.440 idam Cowboys year. I don't. I'm not off that narcotic 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.000 you of off that blue juice, Off that blue juice. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.760 It's the Cowboys year. President fool me once, Shame on 0:00:53.800 --> 0:01:00.080 you twice. Kaka get food an get pooled again. That 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.559 time news Players brought to you by Hotels dot Com. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.080 He is Barry Church until you know, Rocket, a drafted 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.880 free agent four down scout safety do scrugs. I just 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.440 cover the team. Our other running buddy, Danny mccraige's not here. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.119 I wish mccraig was Monday's back back Monday. Okay, Oh 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.000 so he's back to critique the draft. You already know 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.920 you're gonna be any We should have done this, We 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.360 gotta do that. I told y'all from the beginning that 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:26.639 that wasn't I wasn't here. But this is what I okay, 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:32.360 this is what I heard. Okay. So as a player, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.240 this is the interesting partner. So I look like you 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:39.080 get to our listeners and viewers here. What you know 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.279 when you're when you're watched, do you watch the draft 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.600 to see if they're going to take someone in your position? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.440 I mean, what is it? What is it the draft 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.520 like for a player to go through? So me, when 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.040 you know, when I finally got my opportunity to be 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.320 a starter, you know, full time at the safety position 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.800 for the Cowboys, when that draft rolled around, I'm watching 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.840 the first three rounds after that, Adam, you know whatever, 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:02.760 you know, four or five, six, seven, I you know, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.680 if they draftbody in my position with those rounds, I 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.959 think I'll be hy. But those first three, the first, second, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.080 and third round, I'm keeping a keen eye on way 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.959 or they're selecting who they're selecting, who they're bringing in 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.840 because those three rounds, in my opinion, those are the 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.160 guys that have made the team, and even if they're 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.399 not as good as the guy in the position, they're 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.840 gonna try to find a way. They're invested. They're invested, 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.360 they're gonna find a way to get these guys on 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.280 the field. When you're talking about those first three rounds, 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.240 whether it's all we're gonna put them right behind you 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:32.600 for a little bit, you know, just so you can 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.120 teach them the ropes. You know what's going on. They're 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.360 they're grooming that guy to come in and try to 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:38.840 take your spot. And that's just the nature of to 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.919 be that's the nature of the business. So for me 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.800 as a player, I used to keep a keen nine 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.320 on those first two days, first, second, third round. Now 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:49.799 the beginning of my career, I mean I was watching. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.200 I was watching it like a hawk as well. I 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.040 remember me and send some ball in twenty thirteen sitting 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.080 there watching like, man, all right, please don't draft Mark Baron. 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.079 I think it was twenty twenty twelve, Alabama. Yeah, do 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.480 not draft Mark Baron, please because all the weeks setting 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.920 up to their Rob Bryan, who was a defensive coordinator 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.639 at the time. Oh that kid, I mean, we man, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.200 and you try to you know, feed us. We can 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.359 run three three safeties with it. No, we're not gonna 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.160 run three safeties. One of us is gonna get off 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.440 the field for this first round pick. So the whole 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.680 time leading up, me and Sensiball, man, what we're gonna do, man, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.160 what we're gonna do? We ended up going to the 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:25.519 bar and sitting there just like watching this man, what's 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.600 this pick coming? What are they gonna do with this pick? 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:30.600 I'm sitting there like, man, what being sensiball And as 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.040 soon as they said I forget who they drafted at 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.040 that at that draft, but it wasn't Mark Barron. Oh man, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.440 we had a big cheers. Yeah, we good? Whoa who 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.120 were good? In the second round, third round? Nothing that 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.360 came in, so we was hype. I want to say 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.640 it was either twelve or thirteen, thirteen we didn't have 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.040 a first Who's try truf is Travis Frederick? Thirteen? What 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.440 about Mark Baron? Whatever year Mark Baron went out? I 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.120 forget what year that was. Was that the Tyren Smith here? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.680 It might have been. It might have been Tyren Smith 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.320 one of them years we had a high draft pick. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.760 Yeah yeah, Tyro was nine, yeah, so Smith is twenty eleven. Yeah, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.440 so it might have been that year when Mark Barry 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.720 might have been able to come in. I don't know 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.240 what the year he dropped, but that was the draft. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.200 We were sitting there then please don't let this guy 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:14.800 come in, and then they don't. It was a year 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.840 they drafted Mo Clayborne because yeah, because Mo Clayborne came 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.640 in and we were in Orlando, was like everybody was 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.440 talk about we're getting the safety in Orlando was like, yeah, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.720 y'all better watch y'all. The next thing, you know, we 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:31.800 drafted for Clayborn. Hey, hey, okay, Orlando, do you want 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.039 to talk about it? Oh? You should have seen that 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.000 Tuesday when we came in. Oh man, the safety room 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.159 was just dying, laughing. Y'all right over there was just 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.920 a little tension over there's some tension. Oh man. It 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.760 was a great It was a great run. Drafted for 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.040 safeties while you're on the team. I know, I was 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.200 Matt Johnson. There's one JJ Willcox, a, Quassia wousu Ansa 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:57.800 and uh kid from Baylor, um My Dixon. Yes, he's 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.720 now in the US the USFL. My. I'll tell you 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.440 I watched this. They dropped the guy in my visit. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:10.040 I'm funny. You know watch I did that scouting work on. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.599 Oh he ran a fourth. Oh he got some speed 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.080 to him. Let's see what the side to side looking like. Okay, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.919 So when Matt Johnson came in as a fourth, you know, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.120 the guy had a lot of interceptions in his college career. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.960 He had like over twenty and two years or something 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.600 like that. On that. All right, this guy goes get 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.359 the ball a little bit. He got some speed. But 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.320 then when I saw him work out in the OTAs, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.040 I was like, oh, I got this. No disrespect to 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.120 Matt Johnson, that's my boy, but as you're visually working like, 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.800 I got this same thing. When they brought in Rodney Uh, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.440 Rodney Pool, Rodney Pool, I made sure Rodney come on 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.440 work with me. Man, we're gonna work out together. So 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.080 I know, I see, all right, I gotta gage him. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.920 All right, he ain't really good side to side, all right. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.279 I got him on this, I got him on that. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.440 So I always kept you know, friends close, enemies closer. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:47.640 You gotta do it. That's how you gotta do it. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.440 So you did the Bill Russell Michael Jordan thing. Yeah, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:55.960 whatever that was, That's what I did. So the they 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.360 would say, like Bill Russell would stay at Will Chamberlain's 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.160 house when they go play in Philadelphia, and then they 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.680 were buddies. It's like and then Michael Jordan with Barkley, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.839 Hey man, you gonna play golfing with the guy. He's like, hey, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.680 these dudes are acting like you. They're your friends. But 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.240 they get ready, you know, if we're buddies, stepped out 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.040 on the court to feel they sit there been ready 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.720 to cut you to death. Tell he lead about to 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.960 the deep water. I mean some people could swim back. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.840 Some people get left in the deep, you know, just 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:23.720 like that whole thing. And hey man, you know you're 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.040 getting played right. You know you're you're buddying you up. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.440 So you're like, hey, come work out with me, baby, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.160 let's go sport, and all you do want to sitting 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.760 up here, you're just looking at shark in the water 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.880 and seeing how how tell daddy do it every single time? 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.080 But he ain't there. He just laughed, like, man, Church, 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.039 you ain't nothing, but just gotta be it doggy dog 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.880 word out there. Man, it's crazy, got you boys, It's crazy. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.840 And it bit me in the butt though, Jacksonville, that's 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.520 when it bit me the But we drafted a guy, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.279 I want to say, third or fourth round, Ronnie Harrison, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.320 and the dude was a beat. He was a legit beat. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.400 He ended up taking my position and I ended up retiring. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.560 But I was like, man, you know, I was trying 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.640 to do that same type of spill, but it just 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.080 didn't work. It was a beast. But you know, nine 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.960 years later they worked for nine years. So the Cowboys 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.039 have a draft party, and you know, though, how players 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:13.880 come out? Do players have a fear going to the 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.760 draft party and only to see them draft someone? I'll 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.680 give you one of my one of the funniest ones 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.360 I've ever seen. Chicago Bears have a draft party. They've 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.720 given Mike glenn In a two year contract eight million 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.360 a year, so you know, hey, we got Mike Glenning here. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.680 Next thing, you know, they trade up in the draft 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:37.960 to go gets that dude's in the draft party? What what? What? 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.400 What is going on? So? So have you seen that house? 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.120 Oh yeah, A good friend, Jesse Holly, was telling me 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.640 about this story my rookie year when we had drafted 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.800 Daz Bryant. So it was all the receivers at the time. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:54.160 So Miles Austin, Kevin Ogletree, Jesse, Holly, Roy Williams. I 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.640 think Sam Hurd and Patrick Crayton. I think we're all 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.280 in that room at the time and leading up to 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.760 the draft. You know, receiver, we're not touching this receiver room. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.040 Everybody here is locked and loaded. Man, we're ready to go, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.600 like we got we got this, we got this. You 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.360 guys are man, you got it. We got it. He's 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.080 not in the first round. We're not gonna touch nobody. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.720 So they go all out. I guess they went out 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.760 to the bar hanging out or whatever. Jesse was in Mexico, Mexico, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.640 that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah, it was something something 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:19.640 like that. Yeah, CB knows it. And they they drafted 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.960 that Brian or whatever. That's happening. He's calling them up, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:28.160 what is this? What's going on? Going back right now? 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.960 So that's how it happens. I mean, cats literally look 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.120 at it like, man, hold up, y'all did this to 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.640 y'all told me this was not gonna happen, and it 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.720 ended up having it. Man. Same thing with Sean Alie 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.880 back when they brought him. There you had Brady James 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.160 and there and oh man, it was Braddy James was 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.959 in there. We had Keith Brooking. I mean it was man, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:48.760 there's some funny times in that locker room when the 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.559 draft is around. I mean it's hilarious. So what a 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.840 position coaches going through Because you're a position coach, you 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.319 know you this is above your pay grade and that's 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.480 what they all say. They may ask you, which you know, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.040 you give them your opinion, but ultimately still, you know, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.000 the buck stops with with Jerry Jones, Stephen Joe's willman there. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.880 So so how do they handle that? See, they try 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.439 to say that, they try to get that excuse and 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.360 saying our way, it's above my pay grade. Man, you know, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.520 I think you're a hell of a player. You know, Hey, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.520 that's what they want to draft. You know, I told 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.480 them about I think we're good here. We don't need 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.320 to add anybody, but you know, hey, it's above my 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.720 pay grade. Knowing damn well. And those coaches meetings in 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.960 the back, Hey, you know, how do you think our 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.720 dB room is? Hey, we need some help here here 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.280 and here. Man, I like this guy from there. I 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:39.840 like this guy from there. We need to bring them in. 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.200 That's how it really goes down. But when we're all 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.440 in those position meetings, you know, during the off season 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.920 or before the draft. It's oh, man, you know, you 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.679 guys had a hell of a year last year. We're 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.240 just gonna build on that. You know, I don't see 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.000 them touching this room. We might bring in some late 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.200 draft picks. That's always to go to. We'll bring in 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.360 some late draft picks, because guys don't really fear the 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.320 late draft picks. You know, they might make the team. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.079 They might. We got a bunch of fives. That's problem. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.920 What what they're telling me. Now, we'll look, we'll look 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:04.920 to feel the deep, the back end on the past five. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.360 You guys get nothing to worry about it. Here it 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:10.040 goes More's Clayborn, here goes it's bright. I mean it 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:16.079 with Clayford, they traded up capital. You knew he was 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.079 draft capital. Then you heard, hey he's a highest ranked player. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.480 We had this Dion Sayders. She's like, oh, yep, you 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.840 knew it was coming. It was so at that point 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.680 in time, he's just not draft. He's starting. He starting 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.600 front the front of rim. You know they're gonna find 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.920 a way, barring injury. He's started. You know, when you 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.480 get later on in the draft, that's always I we 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.400 got to prove that that guy can play when your 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.280 first round, think we'll make excuses until you figure out 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.440 how to play that Just that's the difference. Is So 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.480 when you know you got that guy in the first 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.000 three rounds, you know you got a battle on your hands. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:50.880 So I'll tell you this as a medium member. You 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:56.959 know one of my favorites. Who you talking about? You? Okay, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.679 So something like that happens, you go get you more 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.440 s Clayborn me. Let's go talk to Orlando. Hey, how 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.800 how you feeling? What is it roll going to change 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.400 at all? Like that? That's the big thing you've always 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.880 played with an hedge yer. Does this give you more 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.000 of a motivation? I mean, do it At this point 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.240 in time, it's just what can I get him to say? 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.560 This crazy I'm telling you to be and to be honest. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.960 That's who I got the lead him in to the deep. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.280 That's where I got it from that that he was 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.679 the king of that I made him. If somebody started 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.839 up balling at that nickel position next to the next 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.000 couple of days, nextly you know he's Orlando and him 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.520 were like right next to each other all the time. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.800 Just hanging out doing whatever hit it next to you 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.480 know that guy kind of just man. I thought he 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:42.280 was getting reps with the with the ones, and now 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:47.440 he's they go sils, they go, we gonna find Ron Leary? Hey, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.840 Ron brother bro bro him. That was that was wild. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.120 They went't had off, They went't had a whole meeting 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.240 at Jerry's house. Everybody was invited. But you how do 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.280 you feel about that? But you brought in Collins and 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:06.080 his mama? How do you feel about that? And they 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.920 say he plays his best at guard? How do you 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.040 how do you feel? Man? I'm telling that was he was. 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:14.040 He was salty about that big SI. So the thing 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.480 was like, you know, how did you you know? So? 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.439 Did you talk to your teammates who went to this? 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:25.080 Were you invited or not? Lit in that room like 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.520 you you walk in that room usually the old line 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.200 in the room. He got snacks everywhere, people laughing. You 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.679 got dudes with their shirts off. Hey, I went in there. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.520 They was all sitting there, no pads, ready to about 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.520 the joke. Ain't nobody laugh. I'm like, dang, well, I 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.840 think Calahan was a coach at the time. Maybe I'm like, huh, right, coach, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:45.880 I'll lead you to it, man, like it was. It 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.480 was tighten there you run Leary man, you walking in 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:55.120 there with two words you you, you, and especially you 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.959 me and you. I mean, dude, that point in time, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.000 I mean I would be bit hurting me thinking about 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.880 how they did Ron. Ron, they did wrong. Crazy come 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.800 to Jerry's house. Everybody were about, you got fed, great 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.920 recruit this man and his mother. Oh man, except for Ron, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.840 you're here not. It was wild and because you can't 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.280 you can't be mad at the guy they draft because 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.600 he just come and do it. But keep in mind, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.040 they didn't draft college. He was free agent. He picked it, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.280 so so they were trying to woo him. They were like, hey, 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.720 you know position battle what No, you're you're plugging play, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.719 You're plugging playing. They're like, wait a second, I tell 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.120 you man. That was That was one of them when 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.800 I just think about just how co cole this business is. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:42.000 It's cold blood around this time. Oh, it's cold blood. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.040 So so that was yeah, man, that's all I'm gonna pick. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.679 I'm gonna picked the brain on this brain because this 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.800 is just these are because this is not what we 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.920 really talk about. You. Hey, the players here players, but 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.079 they're players here that are seriously worried and thinking about it. Now, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.360 I'm gonna give you a guy right now who a 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:06.319 lot of fans have kind of forgot about. Jabril Cox. Yeah, 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:11.040 got hurt advancing well enough that they let Jalen Smith go, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.920 but then you hear them talk about linebackers and then 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.360 they resigned Vanders. You got a lower contract, but he's 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.160 still resigned. So you're talking about some linebackers in the 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.760 draft here. Nakobe Dean out of Georgia, Devil Lloyd out 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.480 of Utah, Christian Harris out of Alabama, Clay Walker another 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.560 one of these. Georgia k he's Georgia and George got 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.080 some guys do so to me, if you're a Jabril Cox, 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.840 I'd be worried because if they like one of these guys, 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.680 can they get them and they use a as you said, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.640 first second, third round, top pick on you in trouble 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.120 because you don't want to be that, you know, forgotten man. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.800 There's always that saying in the NFL, you can't make 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.080 the club in the tub. Right now, he's in the tub, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.600 he's getting these treatments. He's in the ice bag, getting ready. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.840 And would you do that. You know, coaches kind of 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.560 lose sight, you know, they go to the guys that 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.800 are healthy, and they're watching guys out there playing and 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.440 you don't want to, you know, miss out on a 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:02.840 lot of that. And they bring in the high draft 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.760 pick and he kind of, you know, jumps you ahead 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.360 in the picking order. So, um, if I'm just brill, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.360 I'm trying to do up my all to be able 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.080 to get back and be able to show these coaches 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:12.640 at least what I can do on the field when 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.600 OTAs come around. I mean it might not be one 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.520 hundred percent, but at least sean that you could move 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.000 around a little bit and maybe, um, you know, he'll 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.960 be all right. But you're right, I mean they felt 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.360 that he was good enough or developing good enough that 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.000 they got rid of Jalon Smith, but they also resigned 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.600 l Ve. You got I think Gifford's in there. You 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.120 got Parsons. So it ain't gonna be just a you know, 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.840 as soon as I'm healthy, I'm ready to plug and play. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.040 You know, I think he's gonna have to battle a 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.480 little bit. So let me ask the question here. If 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:44.160 you are Tyrant Smith, if you're Tank Lawrence. Both guys 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.200 are going to make they're going to be on this team, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:47.720 and they're going to get their full sounds, So they're 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.040 not coming to them to take a pay cut. To 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:52.040 me that we have to worry about that, but the 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.400 process of them knowing as a as a football team, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.360 you should not write down seventeen games and expect tiring 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.480 Smith to be there for seventeen or ten war Tank 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.960 you can't do it. So there so there is a 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.400 thought process that we need to address these positions. And 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.520 I'm surprised they haven't. You know, i know the draft 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.560 is coming a lot, but I'm surprised they haven't addressed 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.720 at least a tackle position. Maybe when free agency, you 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.560 don't have to be a top tier guy, Okay, you 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.360 can bring in a guy like like they brought in 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.480 the second year or something, you know, a second third 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.920 level type tackle that could bring into the system because 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.680 we know those guys ain't gonna go seventeen games. And 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.720 here's just my thought process on the first off about 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.400 the first waves of free agency. Best ones don't get 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.760 out there. Yeah, you're writing teams like to keep you know, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.240 if you feel good, they're not gonna let you hit 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.840 it right. The best ones are not getting out there. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.080 It's just a rarity. So so that's why right back, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.960 you're not talking about the best one. So now are 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.320 you trying to pay top dollar for you know, overpaying 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.480 for some money you know a guy who's okay to me? 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.120 This is from the cowboy standpoint. You go to the draft, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.480 see where you are. Then after that you can go addressed. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.800 Then you can get just a lower tier free asient, right, Okay, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:05.639 So that's that, that's where you go there. And I 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.200 don't have a problem with the strategy because so many 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.360 times this is where I think people get the cowboys 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.280 who are beating them up. Right now, most of the 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.360 most of the free agency money spent that first week 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.960 is bad. It's an overpay and a lot of times 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:23.280 what you're paying for are not the top players. You're 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.880 just playing. You're paying the top guys available at that time. 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.400 Look at Christian Kirk eighty four? Is he eighty four 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.880 million dollar receiver? No? I mean like people are, man, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.760 they haven't done anything. Just Brandon Car, Brandon Car scared him. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.200 Brandon Car, Well, yeah, because they paid for Kansas City's 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.000 number two. You paid fifty million dollars for a number 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.359 two guy. And this is way before your time. But 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.440 it's when the Mets paid Bobby Benia all this money. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.520 Bobby Bania was a good player. But the guy you 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.800 really wanted to pay, the guy who was the dude 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.560 to get was Barry Bonds. Yeah, it is the oku 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.240 when the Cowboys are winning super Bowls under Jimmy, Alvin 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.560 Harper became a free agent in Tampa Bay. Sign him 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.119 and all this money. You're like, oh, this dude's a 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.719 bus He was number two, So you gave number two 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.240 guys number one money and so many times a free agency, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.120 that is what's happening. Yeah, I could, I could dig 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.440 it that we or you're paying a good player great money. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.000 Then you're sitting here, man, because he not a great player. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:27.840 I e. Byron Jones, good player number the richest free 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.400 agent contract ever for for a corner. No, but that's 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.200 but that's what free agency is. Yeah. Yeah, And then 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:36.719 you know I look at us from the other way. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.320 And we talked about this before on the show. You know, 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.760 we talked about having this way of building it through 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.720 the draft and building it through developing players, and but 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.760 I always come back to that same question. You know, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:51.840 what has that gotten us these past ten years? You know, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.359 we got a couple of division championships, But is that 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.399 really what the goal is here? I mean it is 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.840 that really what we're striving for to win a division? 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.239 I'll give you. I'll give you this. And here's an 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.960 interesting because his how the Cowboys have bound success through 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.960 the years has been trading for other people's assets that 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.160 they have now deemed you know, we want to move 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.159 off Charles Haley. That was that was clutch, that was huge. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.800