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Speaker 1: cover the team. Our other running buddy, Danny mccraige's not here.
Speaker 1: I wish mccraig was Monday's back back Monday. Okay, Oh
Speaker 1: so he's back to critique the draft. You already know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be any We should have done this, We
Speaker 1: gotta do that. I told y'all from the beginning that
Speaker 1: that wasn't I wasn't here. But this is what I okay,
Speaker 1: this is what I heard. Okay. So as a player,
Speaker 1: this is the interesting partner. So I look like you
Speaker 1: get to our listeners and viewers here. What you know
Speaker 1: when you're when you're watched, do you watch the draft
Speaker 1: to see if they're going to take someone in your position?
Speaker 1: I mean, what is it? What is it the draft
Speaker 1: like for a player to go through? So me, when
Speaker 1: you know, when I finally got my opportunity to be
Speaker 1: a starter, you know, full time at the safety position
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, when that draft rolled around, I'm watching
Speaker 1: the first three rounds after that, Adam, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, four or five, six, seven, I you know,
Speaker 1: if they draftbody in my position with those rounds, I
Speaker 1: think I'll be hy. But those first three, the first, second,
Speaker 1: and third round, I'm keeping a keen eye on way
Speaker 1: or they're selecting who they're selecting, who they're bringing in
Speaker 1: because those three rounds, in my opinion, those are the
Speaker 1: guys that have made the team, and even if they're
Speaker 1: not as good as the guy in the position, they're
Speaker 1: gonna try to find a way. They're invested. They're invested,
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way to get these guys on
Speaker 1: the field. When you're talking about those first three rounds,
Speaker 1: whether it's all we're gonna put them right behind you
Speaker 1: for a little bit, you know, just so you can
Speaker 1: teach them the ropes. You know what's going on. They're
Speaker 1: they're grooming that guy to come in and try to
Speaker 1: take your spot. And that's just the nature of to
Speaker 1: be that's the nature of the business. So for me
Speaker 1: as a player, I used to keep a keen nine
Speaker 1: on those first two days, first, second, third round. Now
Speaker 1: the beginning of my career, I mean I was watching.
Speaker 1: I was watching it like a hawk as well. I
Speaker 1: remember me and send some ball in twenty thirteen sitting
Speaker 1: there watching like, man, all right, please don't draft Mark Baron.
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty twenty twelve, Alabama. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: not draft Mark Baron, please because all the weeks setting
Speaker 1: up to their Rob Bryan, who was a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: at the time. Oh that kid, I mean, we man,
Speaker 1: and you try to you know, feed us. We can
Speaker 1: run three three safeties with it. No, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: run three safeties. One of us is gonna get off
Speaker 1: the field for this first round pick. So the whole
Speaker 1: time leading up, me and Sensiball, man, what we're gonna do, man,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? We ended up going to the
Speaker 1: bar and sitting there just like watching this man, what's
Speaker 1: this pick coming? What are they gonna do with this pick?
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, man, what being sensiball And as
Speaker 1: soon as they said I forget who they drafted at
Speaker 1: that at that draft, but it wasn't Mark Barron. Oh man,
Speaker 1: we had a big cheers. Yeah, we good? Whoa who
Speaker 1: were good? In the second round, third round? Nothing that
Speaker 1: came in, so we was hype. I want to say
Speaker 1: it was either twelve or thirteen, thirteen we didn't have
Speaker 1: a first Who's try truf is Travis Frederick? Thirteen? What
Speaker 1: about Mark Baron? Whatever year Mark Baron went out? I
Speaker 1: forget what year that was. Was that the Tyren Smith here?
Speaker 1: It might have been. It might have been Tyren Smith
Speaker 1: one of them years we had a high draft pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Tyro was nine, yeah, so Smith is twenty eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it might have been that year when Mark Barry
Speaker 1: might have been able to come in. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the year he dropped, but that was the draft.
Speaker 1: We were sitting there then please don't let this guy
Speaker 1: come in, and then they don't. It was a year
Speaker 1: they drafted Mo Clayborne because yeah, because Mo Clayborne came
Speaker 1: in and we were in Orlando, was like everybody was
Speaker 1: talk about we're getting the safety in Orlando was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all better watch y'all. The next thing, you know, we
Speaker 1: drafted for Clayborn. Hey, hey, okay, Orlando, do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about it? Oh? You should have seen that
Speaker 1: Tuesday when we came in. Oh man, the safety room
Speaker 1: was just dying, laughing. Y'all right over there was just
Speaker 1: a little tension over there's some tension. Oh man. It
Speaker 1: was a great It was a great run. Drafted for
Speaker 1: safeties while you're on the team. I know, I was
Speaker 1: Matt Johnson. There's one JJ Willcox, a, Quassia wousu Ansa
Speaker 1: and uh kid from Baylor, um My Dixon. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: now in the US the USFL. My. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: I watched this. They dropped the guy in my visit.
Speaker 1: I'm funny. You know watch I did that scouting work on.
Speaker 1: Oh he ran a fourth. Oh he got some speed
Speaker 1: to him. Let's see what the side to side looking like. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when Matt Johnson came in as a fourth, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy had a lot of interceptions in his college career.
Speaker 1: He had like over twenty and two years or something
Speaker 1: like that. On that. All right, this guy goes get
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. He got some speed. But
Speaker 1: then when I saw him work out in the OTAs,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I got this. No disrespect to
Speaker 1: Matt Johnson, that's my boy, but as you're visually working like,
Speaker 1: I got this same thing. When they brought in Rodney Uh,
Speaker 1: Rodney Pool, Rodney Pool, I made sure Rodney come on
Speaker 1: work with me. Man, we're gonna work out together. So
Speaker 1: I know, I see, all right, I gotta gage him.
Speaker 1: All right, he ain't really good side to side, all right.
Speaker 1: I got him on this, I got him on that.
Speaker 1: So I always kept you know, friends close, enemies closer.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. That's how you gotta do it.
Speaker 1: So you did the Bill Russell Michael Jordan thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever that was, That's what I did. So the they
Speaker 1: would say, like Bill Russell would stay at Will Chamberlain's
Speaker 1: house when they go play in Philadelphia, and then they
Speaker 1: were buddies. It's like and then Michael Jordan with Barkley,
Speaker 1: Hey man, you gonna play golfing with the guy. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: these dudes are acting like you. They're your friends. But
Speaker 1: they get ready, you know, if we're buddies, stepped out
Speaker 1: on the court to feel they sit there been ready
Speaker 1: to cut you to death. Tell he lead about to
Speaker 1: the deep water. I mean some people could swim back.
Speaker 1: Some people get left in the deep, you know, just
Speaker 1: like that whole thing. And hey man, you know you're
Speaker 1: getting played right. You know you're you're buddying you up.
Speaker 1: So you're like, hey, come work out with me, baby,
Speaker 1: let's go sport, and all you do want to sitting
Speaker 1: up here, you're just looking at shark in the water
Speaker 1: and seeing how how tell daddy do it every single time?
Speaker 1: But he ain't there. He just laughed, like, man, Church,
Speaker 1: you ain't nothing, but just gotta be it doggy dog
Speaker 1: word out there. Man, it's crazy, got you boys, It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And it bit me in the butt though, Jacksonville, that's
Speaker 1: when it bit me the But we drafted a guy,
Speaker 1: I want to say, third or fourth round, Ronnie Harrison,
Speaker 1: and the dude was a beat. He was a legit beat.
Speaker 1: He ended up taking my position and I ended up retiring.
Speaker 1: But I was like, man, you know, I was trying
Speaker 1: to do that same type of spill, but it just
Speaker 1: didn't work. It was a beast. But you know, nine
Speaker 1: years later they worked for nine years. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a draft party, and you know, though, how players
Speaker 1: come out? Do players have a fear going to the
Speaker 1: draft party and only to see them draft someone? I'll
Speaker 1: give you one of my one of the funniest ones
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Chicago Bears have a draft party. They've
Speaker 1: given Mike glenn In a two year contract eight million
Speaker 1: a year, so you know, hey, we got Mike Glenning here.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they trade up in the draft
Speaker 1: to go gets that dude's in the draft party? What what? What?
Speaker 1: What is going on? So? So have you seen that house?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, A good friend, Jesse Holly, was telling me
Speaker 1: about this story my rookie year when we had drafted
Speaker 1: Daz Bryant. So it was all the receivers at the time.
Speaker 1: So Miles Austin, Kevin Ogletree, Jesse, Holly, Roy Williams. I
Speaker 1: think Sam Hurd and Patrick Crayton. I think we're all
Speaker 1: in that room at the time and leading up to
Speaker 1: the draft. You know, receiver, we're not touching this receiver room.
Speaker 1: Everybody here is locked and loaded. Man, we're ready to go,
Speaker 1: like we got we got this, we got this. You
Speaker 1: guys are man, you got it. We got it. He's
Speaker 1: not in the first round. We're not gonna touch nobody.
Speaker 1: So they go all out. I guess they went out
Speaker 1: to the bar hanging out or whatever. Jesse was in Mexico, Mexico,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Yeah, Yeah, it was something something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, CB knows it. And they they drafted
Speaker 1: that Brian or whatever. That's happening. He's calling them up,
Speaker 1: what is this? What's going on? Going back right now?
Speaker 1: So that's how it happens. I mean, cats literally look
Speaker 1: at it like, man, hold up, y'all did this to
Speaker 1: y'all told me this was not gonna happen, and it
Speaker 1: ended up having it. Man. Same thing with Sean Alie
Speaker 1: back when they brought him. There you had Brady James
Speaker 1: and there and oh man, it was Braddy James was
Speaker 1: in there. We had Keith Brooking. I mean it was man,
Speaker 1: there's some funny times in that locker room when the
Speaker 1: draft is around. I mean it's hilarious. So what a
Speaker 1: position coaches going through Because you're a position coach, you
Speaker 1: know you this is above your pay grade and that's
Speaker 1: what they all say. They may ask you, which you know,
Speaker 1: you give them your opinion, but ultimately still, you know,
Speaker 1: the buck stops with with Jerry Jones, Stephen Joe's willman there.
Speaker 1: So so how do they handle that? See, they try
Speaker 1: to say that, they try to get that excuse and
Speaker 1: saying our way, it's above my pay grade. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you're a hell of a player. You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what they want to draft. You know, I told
Speaker 1: them about I think we're good here. We don't need
Speaker 1: to add anybody, but you know, hey, it's above my
Speaker 1: pay grade. Knowing damn well. And those coaches meetings in
Speaker 1: the back, Hey, you know, how do you think our
Speaker 1: dB room is? Hey, we need some help here here
Speaker 1: and here. Man, I like this guy from there. I
Speaker 1: like this guy from there. We need to bring them in.
Speaker 1: That's how it really goes down. But when we're all
Speaker 1: in those position meetings, you know, during the off season
Speaker 1: or before the draft. It's oh, man, you know, you
Speaker 1: guys had a hell of a year last year. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna build on that. You know, I don't see
Speaker 1: them touching this room. We might bring in some late
Speaker 1: draft picks. That's always to go to. We'll bring in
Speaker 1: some late draft picks, because guys don't really fear the
Speaker 1: late draft picks. You know, they might make the team.
Speaker 1: They might. We got a bunch of fives. That's problem.
Speaker 1: What what they're telling me. Now, we'll look, we'll look
Speaker 1: to feel the deep, the back end on the past five.
Speaker 1: You guys get nothing to worry about it. Here it
Speaker 1: goes More's Clayborn, here goes it's bright. I mean it
Speaker 1: with Clayford, they traded up capital. You knew he was
Speaker 1: draft capital. Then you heard, hey he's a highest ranked player.
Speaker 1: We had this Dion Sayders. She's like, oh, yep, you
Speaker 1: knew it was coming. It was so at that point
Speaker 1: in time, he's just not draft. He's starting. He starting
Speaker 1: front the front of rim. You know they're gonna find
Speaker 1: a way, barring injury. He's started. You know, when you
Speaker 1: get later on in the draft, that's always I we
Speaker 1: got to prove that that guy can play when your
Speaker 1: first round, think we'll make excuses until you figure out
Speaker 1: how to play that Just that's the difference. Is So
Speaker 1: when you know you got that guy in the first
Speaker 1: three rounds, you know you got a battle on your hands.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you this as a medium member. You
Speaker 1: know one of my favorites. Who you talking about? You? Okay,
Speaker 1: So something like that happens, you go get you more
Speaker 1: s Clayborn me. Let's go talk to Orlando. Hey, how
Speaker 1: how you feeling? What is it roll going to change
Speaker 1: at all? Like that? That's the big thing you've always
Speaker 1: played with an hedge yer. Does this give you more
Speaker 1: of a motivation? I mean, do it At this point
Speaker 1: in time, it's just what can I get him to say?
Speaker 1: This crazy I'm telling you to be and to be honest.
Speaker 1: That's who I got the lead him in to the deep.
Speaker 1: That's where I got it from that that he was
Speaker 1: the king of that I made him. If somebody started
Speaker 1: up balling at that nickel position next to the next
Speaker 1: couple of days, nextly you know he's Orlando and him
Speaker 1: were like right next to each other all the time.
Speaker 1: Just hanging out doing whatever hit it next to you
Speaker 1: know that guy kind of just man. I thought he
Speaker 1: was getting reps with the with the ones, and now
Speaker 1: he's they go sils, they go, we gonna find Ron Leary? Hey,
Speaker 1: Ron brother bro bro him. That was that was wild.
Speaker 1: They went't had off, They went't had a whole meeting
Speaker 1: at Jerry's house. Everybody was invited. But you how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? But you brought in Collins and
Speaker 1: his mama? How do you feel about that? And they
Speaker 1: say he plays his best at guard? How do you
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Man? I'm telling that was he was.
Speaker 1: He was salty about that big SI. So the thing
Speaker 1: was like, you know, how did you you know? So?
Speaker 1: Did you talk to your teammates who went to this?
Speaker 1: Were you invited or not? Lit in that room like
Speaker 1: you you walk in that room usually the old line
Speaker 1: in the room. He got snacks everywhere, people laughing. You
Speaker 1: got dudes with their shirts off. Hey, I went in there.
Speaker 1: They was all sitting there, no pads, ready to about
Speaker 1: the joke. Ain't nobody laugh. I'm like, dang, well, I
Speaker 1: think Calahan was a coach at the time. Maybe I'm like, huh, right, coach,
Speaker 1: I'll lead you to it, man, like it was. It
Speaker 1: was tighten there you run Leary man, you walking in
Speaker 1: there with two words you you, you, and especially you
Speaker 1: me and you. I mean, dude, that point in time,
Speaker 1: I mean I would be bit hurting me thinking about
Speaker 1: how they did Ron. Ron, they did wrong. Crazy come
Speaker 1: to Jerry's house. Everybody were about, you got fed, great
Speaker 1: recruit this man and his mother. Oh man, except for Ron,
Speaker 1: you're here not. It was wild and because you can't
Speaker 1: you can't be mad at the guy they draft because
Speaker 1: he just come and do it. But keep in mind,
Speaker 1: they didn't draft college. He was free agent. He picked it,
Speaker 1: so so they were trying to woo him. They were like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know position battle what No, you're you're plugging play,
Speaker 1: You're plugging playing. They're like, wait a second, I tell
Speaker 1: you man. That was That was one of them when
Speaker 1: I just think about just how co cole this business is.
Speaker 1: It's cold blood around this time. Oh, it's cold blood.
Speaker 1: So so that was yeah, man, that's all I'm gonna pick.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna picked the brain on this brain because this
Speaker 1: is just these are because this is not what we
Speaker 1: really talk about. You. Hey, the players here players, but
Speaker 1: they're players here that are seriously worried and thinking about it. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a guy right now who a
Speaker 1: lot of fans have kind of forgot about. Jabril Cox. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got hurt advancing well enough that they let Jalen Smith go,
Speaker 1: but then you hear them talk about linebackers and then
Speaker 1: they resigned Vanders. You got a lower contract, but he's
Speaker 1: still resigned. So you're talking about some linebackers in the
Speaker 1: draft here. Nakobe Dean out of Georgia, Devil Lloyd out
Speaker 1: of Utah, Christian Harris out of Alabama, Clay Walker another
Speaker 1: one of these. Georgia k he's Georgia and George got
Speaker 1: some guys do so to me, if you're a Jabril Cox,
Speaker 1: I'd be worried because if they like one of these guys,
Speaker 1: can they get them and they use a as you said,
Speaker 1: first second, third round, top pick on you in trouble
Speaker 1: because you don't want to be that, you know, forgotten man.
Speaker 1: There's always that saying in the NFL, you can't make
Speaker 1: the club in the tub. Right now, he's in the tub,
Speaker 1: he's getting these treatments. He's in the ice bag, getting ready.
Speaker 1: And would you do that. You know, coaches kind of
Speaker 1: lose sight, you know, they go to the guys that
Speaker 1: are healthy, and they're watching guys out there playing and
Speaker 1: you don't want to, you know, miss out on a
Speaker 1: lot of that. And they bring in the high draft
Speaker 1: pick and he kind of, you know, jumps you ahead
Speaker 1: in the picking order. So, um, if I'm just brill,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do up my all to be able
Speaker 1: to get back and be able to show these coaches
Speaker 1: at least what I can do on the field when
Speaker 1: OTAs come around. I mean it might not be one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but at least sean that you could move
Speaker 1: around a little bit and maybe, um, you know, he'll
Speaker 1: be all right. But you're right, I mean they felt
Speaker 1: that he was good enough or developing good enough that
Speaker 1: they got rid of Jalon Smith, but they also resigned
Speaker 1: l Ve. You got I think Gifford's in there. You
Speaker 1: got Parsons. So it ain't gonna be just a you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as I'm healthy, I'm ready to plug and play.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's gonna have to battle a
Speaker 1: little bit. So let me ask the question here. If
Speaker 1: you are Tyrant Smith, if you're Tank Lawrence. Both guys
Speaker 1: are going to make they're going to be on this team,
Speaker 1: and they're going to get their full sounds, So they're
Speaker 1: not coming to them to take a pay cut. To
Speaker 1: me that we have to worry about that, but the
Speaker 1: process of them knowing as a as a football team,
Speaker 1: you should not write down seventeen games and expect tiring
Speaker 1: Smith to be there for seventeen or ten war Tank
Speaker 1: you can't do it. So there so there is a
Speaker 1: thought process that we need to address these positions. And
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they haven't. You know, i know the draft
Speaker 1: is coming a lot, but I'm surprised they haven't addressed
Speaker 1: at least a tackle position. Maybe when free agency, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be a top tier guy, Okay, you
Speaker 1: can bring in a guy like like they brought in
Speaker 1: the second year or something, you know, a second third
Speaker 1: level type tackle that could bring into the system because
Speaker 1: we know those guys ain't gonna go seventeen games. And
Speaker 1: here's just my thought process on the first off about
Speaker 1: the first waves of free agency. Best ones don't get
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, you're writing teams like to keep you know,
Speaker 1: if you feel good, they're not gonna let you hit
Speaker 1: it right. The best ones are not getting out there.
Speaker 1: It's just a rarity. So so that's why right back,
Speaker 1: you're not talking about the best one. So now are
Speaker 1: you trying to pay top dollar for you know, overpaying
Speaker 1: for some money you know a guy who's okay to me?
Speaker 1: This is from the cowboy standpoint. You go to the draft,
Speaker 1: see where you are. Then after that you can go addressed.
Speaker 1: Then you can get just a lower tier free asient, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's that, that's where you go there. And I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with the strategy because so many
Speaker 1: times this is where I think people get the cowboys
Speaker 1: who are beating them up. Right now, most of the
Speaker 1: most of the free agency money spent that first week
Speaker 1: is bad. It's an overpay and a lot of times
Speaker 1: what you're paying for are not the top players. You're
Speaker 1: just playing. You're paying the top guys available at that time.
Speaker 1: Look at Christian Kirk eighty four? Is he eighty four
Speaker 1: million dollar receiver? No? I mean like people are, man,
Speaker 1: they haven't done anything. Just Brandon Car, Brandon Car scared him.
Speaker 1: Brandon Car, Well, yeah, because they paid for Kansas City's
Speaker 1: number two. You paid fifty million dollars for a number
Speaker 1: two guy. And this is way before your time. But
Speaker 1: it's when the Mets paid Bobby Benia all this money.
Speaker 1: Bobby Bania was a good player. But the guy you
Speaker 1: really wanted to pay, the guy who was the dude
Speaker 1: to get was Barry Bonds. Yeah, it is the oku
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys are winning super Bowls under Jimmy, Alvin
Speaker 1: Harper became a free agent in Tampa Bay. Sign him
Speaker 1: and all this money. You're like, oh, this dude's a
Speaker 1: bus He was number two, So you gave number two
Speaker 1: guys number one money and so many times a free agency,
Speaker 1: that is what's happening. Yeah, I could, I could dig
Speaker 1: it that we or you're paying a good player great money.
Speaker 1: Then you're sitting here, man, because he not a great player.
Speaker 1: I e. Byron Jones, good player number the richest free
Speaker 1: agent contract ever for for a corner. No, but that's
Speaker 1: but that's what free agency is. Yeah. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: you know I look at us from the other way.
Speaker 1: And we talked about this before on the show. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about having this way of building it through
Speaker 1: the draft and building it through developing players, and but
Speaker 1: I always come back to that same question. You know,
Speaker 1: what has that gotten us these past ten years? You know,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of division championships, But is that
Speaker 1: really what the goal is here? I mean it is
Speaker 1: that really what we're striving for to win a division?
Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you this. And here's an
Speaker 1: interesting because his how the Cowboys have bound success through
Speaker 1: the years has been trading for other people's assets that
Speaker 1: they have now deemed you know, we want to move
Speaker 1: off Charles Haley. That was that was clutch, that was huge.
Speaker 1: We've seeing that most recently Amari Coop Cooper changed. He
Speaker 1: changed night for day. You did you look at what
Speaker 1: the Rams did bringing in von Miller. Yeah, So to me,
Speaker 1: that and once again, these aren't free ahent moves. These
Speaker 1: are trades. These are trade Matt Stafford okay. So so
Speaker 1: that to me is that's more of an interest to
Speaker 1: me than necessarily saying let's go get a free ah. Now,
Speaker 1: with some of these trades, keep in mind, depending on
Speaker 1: who you get, you may have to also bring another
Speaker 1: contract with them or let them go. Von Miller that
Speaker 1: was worth it. They gave up as a mercenary game,
Speaker 1: you know, and he was playing for the end and
Speaker 1: he was. He was, in my opinion, of the difference
Speaker 1: maker for them because as he helped er Donald go
Speaker 1: to another level of leadership. So that's worth it. Charles Hayley,
Speaker 1: they brought him in final piece, he had another level
Speaker 1: of leadership. Here was a guy the youngest team in
Speaker 1: the league. Here was a man who was played a
Speaker 1: part of two Super Bowl championships with San Francisco forty ninety.
Speaker 1: So therein lie the benefit of him. So to me,
Speaker 1: it's all about looking at what's favorable to you. Now,
Speaker 1: do all these trades work out? They try Roy Williams
Speaker 1: a receiver that that didn't work out. I really didn't
Speaker 1: work out at all. I was a bad trade. It
Speaker 1: was a bad trade. So do you think currently constructed
Speaker 1: as a team is right now? You know we're gonna
Speaker 1: add some pieces in the draft, understand that. But do
Speaker 1: you think this team currently constructed can make a run,
Speaker 1: can make a long run, not just you know, winning division?
Speaker 1: Can they do that? Okay, it's a good question. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a break and I'll give you my answer.
Speaker 1: I'm a little pessimistic, but I'll get my answer. On
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Speaker 1: tow we scrugs, longtime Cowboy reporter. So so let me
Speaker 1: just throw this out here. You ask the question, you
Speaker 1: keep talking about a deep run. Man, I'm just not
Speaker 1: here to talk about deep runs because it hasn't happened, yeah,
Speaker 1: for ever in a day. So so I'll just man,
Speaker 1: will you want me talking about something like? Why am
Speaker 1: I talking about something doesn't happen? Because we're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how what formula can get them to that
Speaker 1: to where it can can happen. I mean, we were
Speaker 1: we do the same thing each and every year as
Speaker 1: far as draft and you know, building players and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. But it doesn't really it doesn't really
Speaker 1: get us to the final goal. So we're doing. Is
Speaker 1: that the definition of insanity doing the same thing expecting
Speaker 1: a different result. I don't know, I don't know where
Speaker 1: can we get to where, Like it doesn't even have
Speaker 1: to be a free adient, like we were talking about
Speaker 1: the you know, the top tier guys. Usually bad money
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. We can do some type of trade something,
Speaker 1: but just building through the draft. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the same philosophy that we've had for these pasts I
Speaker 1: don't know, ten fifteen years, and you've tried in different ways.
Speaker 1: I mean since since you know, since the two thousands, okay,
Speaker 1: I go back to when Campo was around here. I've
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of coaches. Okay, so I've seen I've
Speaker 1: seen them try different strategies. So none of the strategies
Speaker 1: have necessarily worked at this point in time. Go back
Speaker 1: to the playoff game. Why did you not win the
Speaker 1: playoff game? You got bullied up front, you pull in front. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so fix that now for me, just throw. That's
Speaker 1: the passing league. You're a dB, right, this is the
Speaker 1: passing league. It is okay. You just give you a
Speaker 1: taste of the quarterbacks on the menu for you. Justin
Speaker 1: fields in year two with Chicago, Joe Burrow coming off
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Tom Brady on retiring, arguably had an
Speaker 1: MVP season last year, even though he did not win it.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is now with the Colts. Jalen Hurts is
Speaker 1: in his third year with the Eagles, and they've given
Speaker 1: him some weapons. You were facing the Giants, you face Washington,
Speaker 1: not really scared of the quarterbacks there. You are facing
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in year number two. Who's got Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: It could be a big improvement on there. You've got
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, You've got You've got Matt Stafford. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got some boys on the docket. You've got to go
Speaker 1: to Nashville to face Ryan, Tannehill and Derek Henry. That
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be none. You've got Kirk Cousins. So you
Speaker 1: got you gotta have. You got a first play schedule
Speaker 1: this year, right, So so right here. When I look
Speaker 1: at this, I go back to the playoff game. You
Speaker 1: had problems controlling the trenches, which ultimately lost that football
Speaker 1: game for you. So you didn't go get von Miller. Okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't have the funds for von Miller, who got
Speaker 1: paid a very nice contract to go to Buffalo, So
Speaker 1: bring him. Gregory Brat Okay, yeah, okay, okay, let me
Speaker 1: taste all right. I'm I'm one of the odd people
Speaker 1: out here on the Dallas Cowboys y podcast network. Now
Speaker 1: I'm okay with Randy Gregor. Okay, when I initially saw
Speaker 1: that five year, seventy million, I'm like, come on, man, dude,
Speaker 1: that six I've never seen I've never seen her do
Speaker 1: with six sacks. If people were ready to go give
Speaker 1: a gold jacket too. He missed a lot of games, though, dude,
Speaker 1: he's Randy Gregory. Ain't Randy. Why are you Harvey Marcus
Speaker 1: a lot of games? Dotor Marcus ware if he put
Speaker 1: seventeen together, which he can't, he has the capability of
Speaker 1: doing so he can be a presence. But you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's not it's not our problem anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, that's Denver situation. Denver never got a good
Speaker 1: We gotta figure out how we're gonna fix these trenches
Speaker 1: on both sides of the bank. You, that's what you
Speaker 1: gotta go do. Because we also got to realize the
Speaker 1: law is not gonna go seventeen. So at pick twenty four,
Speaker 1: that's from a picked twenty four. I need to see
Speaker 1: somebody in the front seven on defense or somebody on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Man, that's what I'm looking for. Twenty four.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. Man, we gotta figure out
Speaker 1: something because I don't hear anything about the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: No dB. I don't know dB right now because you know,
Speaker 1: with the situation with with with a you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of jobs. I don't know. I don't know. What
Speaker 1: do you do last year? Not a thing? Okay, let
Speaker 1: the league interception? Didn't you it's why we can't Why
Speaker 1: are we counting on him? So we're good with what
Speaker 1: we got, man, dud got his whole law and order troubles.
Speaker 1: Ain't not not just looking at him. So you we're
Speaker 1: good with what we got at dB. If in the
Speaker 1: first round, I'm looking at I said front seven or
Speaker 1: defense or the trenches, because I go back to the
Speaker 1: great line of Warren sat once said, back to work
Speaker 1: without the front. You're right about that. You're right about that,
Speaker 1: And we gotta have some death pieces somewhere, because what
Speaker 1: allowed Michael Parsons to be as dominant and as you know,
Speaker 1: as bullish as he was, was when he went back
Speaker 1: the linebacker, we still had two edge rushers. When he
Speaker 1: went to the edge, we still had guys that can
Speaker 1: play linebacker in instead, we had Keano Neil Helve. We
Speaker 1: don't got Kanta new anymore. So you know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to kind of move him around as a
Speaker 1: chess piece when we don't have guys that can back
Speaker 1: him up as well. So we got to figure out
Speaker 1: something on that defensive line or like you said, the
Speaker 1: whole front seven to be able to get the most
Speaker 1: out of our top tier players. And that's not sexy, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's not gonna be sexy when you're
Speaker 1: talking about pick pick twenty four, pick fifty six, and
Speaker 1: second round, where I'm looking at guys that are not
Speaker 1: necessarily going to be that ye, you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: They will not come up on your fantasy draft, okay,
Speaker 1: because they're not going to be you know, position players.
Speaker 1: They've got to get better up front man on both
Speaker 1: sides of the football, And for me, that that is
Speaker 1: just the key, dude, and it's just not sexy for anybody.
Speaker 1: Can you see them bringing back a like Brent Urban.
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't get a lot of We didn't
Speaker 1: get a we have a small sample size of him,
Speaker 1: but he's another guy who can at least take up
Speaker 1: space down there, at least take up blockers or let
Speaker 1: those linebackers run side line the sideline. I'd like to
Speaker 1: see a bigger taste of what he got. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's another guy in free agency that's you know, he's
Speaker 1: not one of the top tier's not gonna break the bank,
Speaker 1: but you can also prograss some depth. You know. What
Speaker 1: I also come back to this is that is okay,
Speaker 1: that was good enough last year. But when you talk
Speaker 1: about improving there, trying to go back it, can it
Speaker 1: help you go deeper? I don't necessarily know about that.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I go back into the playoff game here
Speaker 1: and like, man, let me go back here and just
Speaker 1: just hit on this number. Okay, San Francisco thirty eight rushes,
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty nine yards. You know they control
Speaker 1: the ball for forty s say, thirty four minutes in
Speaker 1: the playoff game, the one in the time of possession. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's what they did rushing to football. Here's what
Speaker 1: you did rushing to football, Cowboys. Twenty one attempts, seventy
Speaker 1: seven yards. That's not gonna get it done. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: as you well know, it's a former player. This is this,
Speaker 1: we're about this. This is the inches, baby, this is
Speaker 1: the trenches. Now you had Jimmy Garoppolo with a bad
Speaker 1: thumb out there. It's trying to throw the game away
Speaker 1: and he's and we still couldn't capitalize on it. Jimmy
Speaker 1: wasn't good. Jimmy was not good. But okay, sixteen to
Speaker 1: twenty five, one hundred and seventy two yards a pick
Speaker 1: QBR sixty eight point six and he missed a lot
Speaker 1: of receivers out there. He missed a lot. So I mean,
Speaker 1: so so with this is show your quarterback wasn't good,
Speaker 1: but they were so good at running the ball that
Speaker 1: this guy and his team walked out with a twenty
Speaker 1: three to seventeen victory. Few it wasn't good enough. Then
Speaker 1: on the other side, here's here's Zeke twelve rushes thirty
Speaker 1: one yards, Tony Pollard four rushes, fourteen yards. It's just
Speaker 1: not that's sixteen total touches for those guys at least
Speaker 1: carrying the football. Remember how many sacks Dak had in
Speaker 1: that game? Five man trenches? Okay, So so we talked about, oh,
Speaker 1: let's go get a receiver really trenches? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that what you need? And I understand forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: they've got a hilacious defense, especially in that front seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we gotta be able to protect the quarterback a
Speaker 1: little bit better than that. Okay. So just going on
Speaker 1: receiving in this in the playoff game, all right, Cowboys had,
Speaker 1: uh boy, how many look how many guys caught passes
Speaker 1: in this game? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine nine dudes caught passes? How many was you? How many?
Speaker 1: Did I mean? Eight? Eight? Eight? Guys got caught passes?
Speaker 1: Twenty four twenty four receptions, two hundred and seventy yards,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, one touchdown. Ceedee Lamb had one catch for
Speaker 1: twenty one yards. Yes, and that's what scares me about
Speaker 1: this receiving room right now. If we're looking, he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the number one guy, right, this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be number eighty eight. Is you know you got
Speaker 1: the number one? You know he's supposed to be that guy.
Speaker 1: But if you looked at it in a regular season,
Speaker 1: I think it was about the last seven games he
Speaker 1: didn't score touchdown, or it was something ridiculous like that,
Speaker 1: or like six sixty. So it was like, man, that's
Speaker 1: what scares me. So it's supposed to be our guy
Speaker 1: to the number one. So if we're talking about trying
Speaker 1: to fix this thing, for me, I think it's got
Speaker 1: to be within the front seven, stopping the run and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how you can establish and protect
Speaker 1: the run and protect This is where football still won.
Speaker 1: And for the cowboy fans out here who like to
Speaker 1: remember the triplets or they like to remember the glory
Speaker 1: days of a Drew Pearson, I would challenge you to
Speaker 1: go look at the offensive and defensive lines of those
Speaker 1: championship teams. Yeah. People never talk about, or at least
Speaker 1: they don't talk about enough that the Super Bowl twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's first one, and no more defensive league, more defensive
Speaker 1: the league, man, every team I've been a part of
Speaker 1: every good team. I went to the playoffs four times.
Speaker 1: Every time I went to the playoffs, either offensively or defensively,
Speaker 1: we had an hilacious front. You know those years with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys fourteen and sixteen. I mean, look who we
Speaker 1: had up there. We had a team t Smith and
Speaker 1: his prime Frederick, you know Martin. The front line was
Speaker 1: amazing and then Jacksonville. Defensively, our front line was unreal.
Speaker 1: Klais Campbell, Yah, Nick. I mean the trenches. It might
Speaker 1: not be sexy, you know, it might not be you know,
Speaker 1: everybody listen, oh man, you see what they did on ESPN.
Speaker 1: Look at these highlights, but I'm telling you it still
Speaker 1: wins games in this National Football League. And that's, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to be strong up front in the trenches.
Speaker 1: It could take you a long ways. And as we've
Speaker 1: seen last year, if you don't have it, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna go far in the playoffs. The reason why the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals are not World champions is on the final
Speaker 1: drive they could not stop Aaron Donald Miller. That's it.
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it. Your last two drives, you couldn't. You
Speaker 1: couldn't keep them off your quarterback. I don't care who
Speaker 1: you got the skill position, because Cincinnati was He had
Speaker 1: a little thank you. But if you can't block, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to win games. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to win the whole things. But all right, um, last
Speaker 1: year you and I made our first round pick. We won.
Speaker 1: We we went with the quarter for the year in
Speaker 1: the row. Okay, we went with Digs the year before
Speaker 1: they took cd Land. Last year we both were like
Speaker 1: Patrick's ten the second second who went one pick before.
Speaker 1: But we were right on point because that guy ahead.
Speaker 1: Heck of a year for years to come. Heck of
Speaker 1: a year. Danny wanted uh Slater, Sean Slater who went
Speaker 1: out to the chart and good he was all pro. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was good, a fantastic player. So let's take a
Speaker 1: break and come back. What do we think who would
Speaker 1: we like to see the Cowboys walk away with? At
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Speaker 1: So Cowboys are picked twenty four in the first round
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Chris, Chris, who who do you have? Who
Speaker 1: do you have? Man? I know your brother works over scouting,
Speaker 1: so you might you might have a little pick. You
Speaker 1: might know something that's warm. Man, Come on, man, now
Speaker 1: act like you all talking. Now you don't talk to
Speaker 1: your brother now now you talk. But they're not be
Speaker 1: done with draft meetings. They're still in draft meetings. So okay,
Speaker 1: there are I know there are on running backs on
Speaker 1: Friday because I talked to Una. Okay, so so um.
Speaker 1: Based on what you know and and producing so many
Speaker 1: of these podcasts, Chris twenty four, what do you expect
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys to do? Like? Position or guy first first?
Speaker 1: I mean right now, just just based on the things
Speaker 1: you know at twenty four? Who do you expect the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to select? Or? Better yet, who do you want?
Speaker 1: Who do you want? So many guys that can fall
Speaker 1: to you there, Okay, who would you want? Who would
Speaker 1: Chris Bean want? If Chris Bean gets to play sit
Speaker 1: up day? Whisper to Jerry turn into card, who would
Speaker 1: you say turn into card for? Can just give you
Speaker 1: a position? Yeah? Yeah, there you go. This is what
Speaker 1: I need. I think we need a huge like defensive
Speaker 1: linement in the middle of the defensive line. We haven't
Speaker 1: had that for years, to be honest with you, so
Speaker 1: like a big space eater. Yeah, exactly. I mean Davis
Speaker 1: there both and dare just gonna fall back to us.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think they're gonna give the
Speaker 1: center a chance, Linda ba No, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: give our current center a chance. Oh you didn're gonna
Speaker 1: give it a chance. Now. I could see that. I
Speaker 1: could see them going with a guard to help out
Speaker 1: next to him, you know. Okay, so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like Zion Johnson's out there, green some kind of stuff. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So so it will be someone on the front cover
Speaker 1: because there always is. And that's what I heard on
Speaker 1: the draft show. Dude, I'm telling you, every year someone
Speaker 1: on that cover right there gets drafted at the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 1: Highway guy in the front front centeris who you got?
Speaker 1: Got green on there too? There is green on the
Speaker 1: green next to them, Green Green is on there. Um. Look,
Speaker 1: I am where Danny sat last year and resisted Danny.
Speaker 1: A lot of me says I need to stop resisting
Speaker 1: what he's talking about, which is, hey, look, you gotta
Speaker 1: own them to the fact that Tyrant Smith is is
Speaker 1: he's missed so many games. Now you gotta ask yourself,
Speaker 1: is it time to go ahead and pull the plug
Speaker 1: or I should say, look at feeling foo hing gonna last,
Speaker 1: So go ahead and start rooming his replacement of there.
Speaker 1: So so that's a part of me. The part of
Speaker 1: me goes there. A big part of me loves Tyler
Speaker 1: Lindon moment out. I mean, so, if you could get
Speaker 1: the next Jason Kelsey, would you do it? Yeah? Are
Speaker 1: we seen that when when we have a great center
Speaker 1: in the middle of that whole offensive line, getting guys
Speaker 1: lined up and making sure everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1: This offensive line looks historically different. But when when you know,
Speaker 1: but when we lost Frederick, you know, we lost that
Speaker 1: quarterback on the offensive line, and it gets hard that way.
Speaker 1: So if you can get a guy who's athletic enough
Speaker 1: that can pull from the center position. I've seen this
Speaker 1: guy pull on tape. He's big enough, heads enough, bricks
Speaker 1: in his pocket, he can handle his one on ones.
Speaker 1: You know, I can see it happening. I can see
Speaker 1: it happening. And look, I'm with you. Chris Davis from Georgia,
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis from Georgia would be it's a freak athlete
Speaker 1: right there. Man. Look, if I have to move up,
Speaker 1: then I'll move up one of the things. And we
Speaker 1: spoke about this on the last players. What made help
Speaker 1: what helped make Ray Lewis great? It was always a
Speaker 1: big win in front of him, Sam Adams. Then they
Speaker 1: use a first round pick on Helodi Nodding. They were
Speaker 1: always cognizant that for the best way for us to
Speaker 1: let Ray do his thing is get some people up
Speaker 1: front so he could do his thing. Junior say, the
Speaker 1: same thing with the Chargers for you is they had
Speaker 1: some people up front. You can go. So I got
Speaker 1: a weapon, how do I help make the weapon better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta protect the weapon you got. You got a
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons there. So, So Davis is a guy that
Speaker 1: I would look to and um, I've seen him, you know,
Speaker 1: in the mid rounds. So you know they've talked about
Speaker 1: moving up. You're at twenty four. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: with Chris. I don't see him falling. But if I'm
Speaker 1: going to move up, I have to move up for
Speaker 1: an impact player. He's got to be a guy that
Speaker 1: could be a Day one starter, plug in play and
Speaker 1: a guy who can help affect other things. We just
Speaker 1: talked about the running game here. They couldn't run I mean,
Speaker 1: they couldn't stop the run. On the other side, they
Speaker 1: couldn't run football. So I've just talked about two dudes
Speaker 1: who right up front can help me either helped me
Speaker 1: either way, and I have grown. I wasn't a fan
Speaker 1: when they took Travis Frederick because I wanted Sharif Floyd.
Speaker 1: I think that was it, Shari from Minnesota the tackle
Speaker 1: right then, I said, maybe it's just taking it, but
Speaker 1: they didn't and turned out that. You know, they were okay.
Speaker 1: But man, having Travis here for the years that they
Speaker 1: did what a professional um just really a talented guy,
Speaker 1: and they have not. They haven't filled his shoes yet,
Speaker 1: done filled it. Since they have not, They've not been
Speaker 1: able to fill that sense. So I've got issues in
Speaker 1: terms of I think the current center, Tyler Bot is
Speaker 1: a nice player, but he's not Travis Frederick. You can
Speaker 1: improve there, you should get better there. If you can
Speaker 1: get a Jason Kelsey, then I would go get it.
Speaker 1: In terms of Tyler Lindon Mom up there or Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1: So give me one of these two dudes up here
Speaker 1: that can help me stop the run or run the ball,
Speaker 1: and I'm right there with you. I mean, you get
Speaker 1: the trenches. Like we've seen, they still win you football games,
Speaker 1: they'll still lose your football games. We talked about the
Speaker 1: San Francisco game about pretty much all show. We got
Speaker 1: dominated in the trenches. So in order to get better
Speaker 1: at that, you got you got a draft down there.
Speaker 1: And that guy from I would like you said, the center.
Speaker 1: He seems to be a guy that can be a
Speaker 1: can't miss type prospect, Like he can come in, he
Speaker 1: can plug and play. He seems like a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He could pick up the system and he can run
Speaker 1: the system. So I would have no problem at all
Speaker 1: going there at that center position. Now, if they you know,
Speaker 1: if like what Chris Beam says, they might give a
Speaker 1: you know, they're the be out of a chance there
Speaker 1: at center, then you gotta put somebody next to him.
Speaker 1: Because we saw when who was over Who's at the guard?
Speaker 1: Was that Connor Williams was it was out there. They
Speaker 1: just I don't know, if they didn't have enough bricks
Speaker 1: in their pocket or whatever, miscommunication, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: that's that center guard combo right there. It just didn't
Speaker 1: really work out, you know, as far as the Cowboys
Speaker 1: wanted to do this season. So if they give the
Speaker 1: out of a chance, then they gotta put somebody next
Speaker 1: to him that can hold it down better than Connor
Speaker 1: Williams did. And in that regard, then you got to
Speaker 1: go in the draft and look for somebody like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, Dame Bruger has us taking and his
Speaker 1: latest mock draft Zion Johnson, the guard oft of Boston College.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad with that too, whatever that whatever feels
Speaker 1: the need. As a trench, Johnson can also play tack
Speaker 1: off you on him too. He's played at every single position,
Speaker 1: so he's a versatile guy. Yeah yeah, big Zion. And
Speaker 1: in uh six foot three, three twelve. The comp that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have here that the Kyle Yeomans did was
Speaker 1: Brian Waters Brot Watters football player. He was in for
Speaker 1: what he was in for a little bit, playing the
Speaker 1: league for a long time. If in Kansas City kid
Speaker 1: out of North Texas. So, um, if if this, if
Speaker 1: you can get this kind of player here, you're you're
Speaker 1: You're not You're not. I'm not gonna sit up here
Speaker 1: and say, oh yeah, getting worse. Okay, I'm okay with that,
Speaker 1: and I'm okay with that, but you gotta get yourself better.
Speaker 1: Up front here okay, Thursday, Um, it's coming, It's coming.
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Speaker 1: here to criticize everything that he didn't like. I can't wait.
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