Speaker 1: It's up, then us up, then us up then stuck?
Speaker 2: Are you do you sing that song a lot? You
Speaker 2: sing a lot of Cardi beers.
Speaker 1: Your kids are constantly singing cardios.
Speaker 2: My kids love Wap Dude, My kid loves Wap. My
Speaker 2: kid loves Bowdagg Yellow. He gave me he will he want?
Speaker 2: That was such a fun.
Speaker 1: Man, that was Ah, they're talking about kissing or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, Just leave me alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her? What is a lake? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four twelve,
Speaker 2: Episode five of Dirt.
Speaker 1: Alleys.
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, what's a production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1: It's a podcast where you take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share consciousness, which is particularly.
Speaker 3: Scoopy, scoopy spoop, scoopy too, scoopy two? Where are you
Speaker 3: covered in freaking cobwebs? Dude in here? Fuck yeah, spiders
Speaker 3: and shit.
Speaker 1: Yep. Friday October thirty first, Yeah, Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween.
Speaker 1: Are there any other national international days that there are?
Speaker 2: And actually I'm gonna call them out because fuck you
Speaker 2: for even trying to claim October thirty f the fucking
Speaker 2: doorbell company new Tone paid for it to be national
Speaker 2: Doorbell Day, Get the fuck out of here. I guess
Speaker 2: guess trick or treating, but.
Speaker 1: It ties there's a tie in.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this one, Jack National Breadstick Day?
Speaker 1: Now, this one, I'll give them trying to make it
Speaker 1: a thing. Are they trying to be like, why candy?
Speaker 1: Why not breadstick?
Speaker 2: It's actually just the last Friday on October, So they
Speaker 2: didn't explicitly go for the thirty first October. Thirty first
Speaker 2: is Girl Scout Founder's Day, which I guess maybe it's
Speaker 2: probably tied to something significant. I give the National magic
Speaker 2: Knock Knock Jokes. Frankenstein Friday. Yeah, dude, not for Frankenstein Friday. Hey,
Speaker 2: in this house, it's franken Stey Friday. Every Frida.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We will not be saying Halloween.
Speaker 1: My name's Jack O'Brien aka. And so I threw some
Speaker 1: rocks at this house one time. Then all these big
Speaker 1: kids came out, Well, they came outside and said.
Speaker 2: Hey, you want head or gut?
Speaker 1: And they said hey or gut, Hey gud They said,
Speaker 1: hey you want head or gut? That one courtesy a
Speaker 1: First Blood five twenty two on the discord. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: reference to my when when I figured out my whole shit,
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I was faced with a
Speaker 1: moment of truth, a bully asking me head er gut,
Speaker 1: and I figured out what my response was to fighter flight,
Speaker 1: and I started crying until his sister said, oh, let
Speaker 1: him go, and then.
Speaker 2: The rest and then she punched you. She beat the
Speaker 2: ship one out of mine step aside this. Oh we
Speaker 2: got a little baby tonight.
Speaker 1: That was a few years ago, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I've grown a lot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, hey for hard time for you.
Speaker 1: The late twenties was tough. Uh. Thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always buy my co host, mister Miles gra Hey, Man,
Speaker 1: it's spooky as hell.
Speaker 2: It's spooky in LA. It's spooky Everywhere's Halloween. Happy Halloween
Speaker 2: as Miles Gray a Kay Gray, Biles or Miles Decay. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's my thank you.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Miles Decay. Is that's fucked up?
Speaker 1: That one's got? I don't like the dang the hour, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It does, it does anyway, shotowt no clue on the
Speaker 2: discord for that one.
Speaker 1: Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: once again by a talented actress and writer. Who's where
Speaker 1: you know from? I don't know, Netflix, HBO, Max, DC, Comics,
Speaker 1: A couple of small places. Welcome back to the brilliant,
Speaker 1: the talented Danny Fernande.
Speaker 4: Done Fernandez or you know how the at the Dodgers
Speaker 4: games they keep doing Nonna Charge No, yes, that, but
Speaker 4: I mean, like the way that they're leading into it
Speaker 4: is like the the.
Speaker 2: The organist definitely tastes liberties to like sometimes you get
Speaker 2: that and then yeah, sometimes you get Jurassic Park into.
Speaker 4: Like obsessed with that. They're like throwing in They're throwing
Speaker 4: in all the curves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing they're doing K pop Demon Hunters for
Speaker 1: a show. Hey, Golden is leading into his at Beth. Dude,
Speaker 1: the way my kid his ears parked up. What the
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, what what's this sound?
Speaker 2: I know this sound. I'm like, that's this Golden Child.
Speaker 1: It's Golden, y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm going as dirty.
Speaker 1: The We're just talking about that on trending yesterday. That
Speaker 1: dirty is a top six costume.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that the Tiger was called dirty.
Speaker 4: I know, I thought everybody was doing the hang on,
Speaker 4: I'll show you look at.
Speaker 2: That, Okay.
Speaker 4: I know, like the Yeah, I brought the potted plant.
Speaker 1: That is the that is like the thinking person's demon
Speaker 1: hunter's costume because like the we were talking about the
Speaker 1: Google freight geist there like trending Halloween costumes list, and
Speaker 1: like one through five is just you know.
Speaker 4: Mirror, and y'all aren't thinking about the tiger with the
Speaker 4: potted plant doing not number eight. I identified it too.
Speaker 4: It's like clearly the college girl version.
Speaker 2: Body.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the level of difficult on danifying that one.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so so many easier ones to danify,
Speaker 1: and that that one that's you gotta have.
Speaker 2: You gotta have the vision, you gotta yeah, you gotta see.
Speaker 4: There's like the basic sexy cat that all the girls do,
Speaker 4: but no, the pot of plant please. That was very
Speaker 4: hold on. That was very hard to hold on to
Speaker 4: with my phone all night. I'm sure doone had to
Speaker 4: drink and I had this like cac die like we're
Speaker 4: people getting it, We're no, no, oh my god, the
Speaker 4: part that's why I'm doing it again. So I wore
Speaker 4: this last because you know, a bunch of people had
Speaker 4: their Halloween parties last weekend. Nobody appreciated it. Yeah, In fact,
Speaker 4: a lot of people thought I was the ches the
Speaker 4: cheshire cat.
Speaker 1: Which there's a similarity there is. There is a is
Speaker 1: a riff on the cheshire cat.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true, very true. But even the parents,
Speaker 4: I was like, surely you. I was like trying to
Speaker 4: find parents at the party.
Speaker 1: You know, at a party, You're like, hey, do you
Speaker 1: have any pictures of your kids and boring stories that.
Speaker 2: You get to in your sexy Halloween costume? Go, hey,
Speaker 2: are you a parent?
Speaker 1: Tell me?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm going for. It's wonderful to have you.
Speaker 1: Back, Danny. We are going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going
Speaker 1: to tell the listeners a couple of the things that
Speaker 1: we're talking about today. We got one non Halloween story
Speaker 1: which spooky Tho spooky spooky Trump has decided to bring
Speaker 1: back nuclear weapon testing gave us some of our great
Speaker 1: movie monsters, So in that way, it is a Halloween story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he kills us with Dredge.
Speaker 1: Yes. We also have a story about Donald Trump's childhood home,
Speaker 1: which is on the market and sounds like a true
Speaker 1: haunted house nightmare. So we'll talk about that, and then
Speaker 1: we will talk about clowns. The clowns are back. Scary
Speaker 1: clowns are back with the HBO Welcome to Dairy launch
Speaker 1: that they had a less spooky viral marketing campaign with Pennywise,
Speaker 1: just like showing up in various places, but it was
Speaker 1: like that they did it official, as opposed to twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: when like just scary clowns started showing up all over
Speaker 1: the place and people assumed that it was marketing for
Speaker 1: the It movie, but the movie denied that it was,
Speaker 1: which was smart of them. But we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that and then just like why why clown's so
Speaker 1: scary you guys, Danny, are you scared of clowns?
Speaker 4: No, but my dad was. I don't like my dad,
Speaker 4: so that's like fun, so like yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Somebody gave my brother like a clown lamp, which is
Speaker 4: a choice, yeah, to give to a child for their birthday.
Speaker 4: It was like a like a clown that's like holding
Speaker 4: up the lamp. You know. My dad immediately put it
Speaker 4: in the closet. Immediately, it was like absolutely, get it
Speaker 4: out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I know that my dad scared me as a child,
Speaker 4: and now I can scare him as an adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Yeah, they thought that it was
Speaker 1: going to be more inherited fears from older people since
Speaker 1: clowns have like gone away mainly in pop culture rather
Speaker 1: than But it's that that was actually one of the
Speaker 1: lesser reasons that people are scared of clowns. So we'll
Speaker 1: get into it. I would say we talked to yesterday
Speaker 1: about the most common Halloween costume that I see at
Speaker 1: our house where we get thousands of trigger treaters, which
Speaker 1: is the screen mask, and it's hold over the zeitgeist
Speaker 1: and America share consciousness. I will say clowns are also
Speaker 1: way up there, and it's not like specific, It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: this year it came out, and so we get a
Speaker 1: lot of anyway, scary clowns are just constant.
Speaker 4: Is anyone cute? Oh and that's also scary too when
Speaker 4: the clowns, well, it is.
Speaker 1: A lot of i'd say both scream and like killer
Speaker 1: scary clowns run the gamut from like three up to
Speaker 1: you know adults. Yeah, a lot of baby scream.
Speaker 4: Babys, ghost face.
Speaker 1: Does anyone pitch Wu Tang babies? By the way, I
Speaker 1: feel like a muppet Baby's treatment of Wu Tang babies.
Speaker 2: Oh wodang baby ghost face there. Yeah, Staten Island, flue
Speaker 2: tang babies, all.
Speaker 1: That, plenty more. But first, Danny, we do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history
Speaker 1: that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love this. So the last thing
Speaker 4: that I looked up was actually listened to it this morning.
Speaker 4: It was best case scenario meditation. I think everyone needs
Speaker 4: to be listening to this, but you can find like
Speaker 4: it's just on YouTube, like instead of my family, and
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of like my mom and
Speaker 4: her mom and like they're all worst case scenario like
Speaker 4: literally constantly. Yeah, And I don't know, I feel that's
Speaker 4: really hard to manifest. They like if I'm trying to
Speaker 4: stay delusional, if I'm trying to stay in my delusion
Speaker 4: here in the industry in Los.
Speaker 1: Angeles delusions as we do out here in LA.
Speaker 4: I literally listen and yeah, I sent it to two
Speaker 4: of my friends too. I'm like, just listen to this
Speaker 4: every day, y'all. Everyone listening best case scenario instead, whether
Speaker 4: you're doing a job interview, or I don't know, just.
Speaker 2: To give yourself going on a date, just to take
Speaker 2: out the negative vote. Look, I'm a master. I should
Speaker 2: go as roomy actually for Halloween, but only because I
Speaker 2: ruminate constantly and I'm trying to work on that.
Speaker 1: Whether she was named that because she does a lot
Speaker 1: of rubination herself, I doubt it.
Speaker 4: I feel there's probably like a cultural thing we're totally missing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably more to do with Thickrean language. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's funny too. I'm such a worst case scenario person.
Speaker 2: Thanks Grandma. Straight line from my dad's mother directly into
Speaker 2: my brain because she was like a gold medal like
Speaker 2: worst case scenario person. Like she could look at a
Speaker 2: plastic spoon and somehow the house was going to burn
Speaker 2: down because that spoon was out, and you're like, I don't, yeah, Grandma,
Speaker 2: who knows what happens with that thing? But yeah, my
Speaker 2: dad was a.
Speaker 1: Real optimist, and I think that. I like, it's really
Speaker 1: a your fuck no matter what parenting situation. Because then
Speaker 1: I was like, so I need to hold up my
Speaker 1: end by imagining the worst case scenario exactly, So I
Speaker 1: need to assume that you know this is always going
Speaker 1: to go badly, But.
Speaker 2: You're also worst case Danny.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I had a trained. I have OCD,
Speaker 4: like I was clinically diagnosed. I know everyone says they
Speaker 4: have OCD, but I actually have OCD, which means I
Speaker 4: have like looping thoughts. So I have to go back
Speaker 4: to the best case scenario. It's very helpful, and it's
Speaker 4: helpful nowadays. And I'm just like a big believer in
Speaker 4: what the reality that you create, Like it's basically confirmation bias.
Speaker 4: If I think everyone is shitty, that's kind of what's
Speaker 4: going to be shown to me as I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so so.
Speaker 1: And these meditations are do they have like specific what
Speaker 1: like uh, normal day job interview.
Speaker 4: No, it's just you can probably you can find like
Speaker 4: a job interview one, but I just literally the one
Speaker 4: I listened to is like eleven minutes. I'll like listen
Speaker 4: to it when I'm putting on my makeup or something
Speaker 4: or going out. I'm just like trying to I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like constantly, I feel like being alive in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five is very triggering.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's plenty on its own. We don't need our
Speaker 1: brains like ganging up on those too.
Speaker 4: But also just like being on social media and seeing
Speaker 4: like you're constantly ingesting so much that I just want
Speaker 4: to undo it.
Speaker 2: Yeah I can't. I'm like, I don't know, I've probably
Speaker 2: said this on MIC or maybe not, but I've just
Speaker 2: been I've been using Instagram so much more, and I'm
Speaker 2: like this, something is wrong with me that like now
Speaker 2: I've put the locks on it and shit, because I yeah,
Speaker 2: i can feel it coinciding with something else that I'm
Speaker 2: like I've yet to address for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: But myles, I've been deleting mine. I'll post something, i
Speaker 4: literally delete it, like for the week.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: But then I'll come back and like everybody has written
Speaker 4: me stuff and whatever. But I'm still like, it feels
Speaker 4: so much better. I'm you know what, I'm manifesting. Y'all
Speaker 4: will see this. I am manifesting me not needing it.
Speaker 4: One day I'm going to be I'm just gonna be
Speaker 4: off of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're still used to not be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I will be more alive than ever.
Speaker 1: I noticed myself. I left my bedroom without my phone
Speaker 1: and like was like, well this feels weird, like just
Speaker 1: that that's bad.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when I walk my kid to school, I
Speaker 2: leave the phone back a lot of the times.
Speaker 1: Smart. Yeah, I need to build that more into my days.
Speaker 2: I have, like I have a watch like an Apple,
Speaker 2: so if I if I need to get a hold
Speaker 2: of someone, I can do that. But I'm like the
Speaker 2: I just like we're walking around, We're looking at trees
Speaker 2: and ship.
Speaker 1: And it's you know how the olden days were well
Speaker 1: a pairent. My kids using AI so that's tricky for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cutting it? What Danny is?
Speaker 1: Something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Underrated?
Speaker 1: Y'all?
Speaker 4: Speaking tis this season? I am obsessed with the Monster Mash.
Speaker 4: I know it's like super old waits Okay. They just
Speaker 4: announced that they're making a movie Mirra Max is making
Speaker 4: an animated movie about the Monster Mash. I think people
Speaker 4: are like why, Okay? Can I say it does not
Speaker 4: get the credit that it deserves. I feel during this
Speaker 4: time everyone's listening to like Thriller, which I'm also obsessed with,
Speaker 4: but or like the soundtrack from A Nightmare Without Christmas
Speaker 4: but the Monster.
Speaker 2: Or before Christmas? Sorry what did I say without Christmas?
Speaker 4: The Nightmare before Christmas?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry? My kid likes to do the part. He says,
Speaker 2: take off my head.
Speaker 4: But like all the voices when they come in, he's
Speaker 4: like I was working in the law, Like, that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: Did they know they were creating like a giant piece
Speaker 1: of pop culture at that time, Like the the bubbling,
Speaker 1: like the person was making the bubbling right like fucking.
Speaker 4: And all the all the background dancers that are like.
Speaker 1: A nailing it.
Speaker 4: And so my niece and nephew at the end, at
Speaker 4: the end, it's one of my favorite things. I'll go
Speaker 4: around the house my niece to my niece and nephew,
Speaker 4: I'll be like, ooh, marsh food because that's what he
Speaker 4: says at the end, and I'm just like, it's so
Speaker 4: oh good, all the voices in it. So y'all will
Speaker 4: walk around now and you'll hear him say that at
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 2: I don't think I ever get past to it was
Speaker 2: the Monster. I think I've heard it all.
Speaker 1: Do you ever really get the thing where you put
Speaker 1: it on and then whatever streaming platform you're using starts
Speaker 1: playing you other songs from that artist person, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they knew They've been spending the rest of their life
Speaker 1: trying to recapture that match.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Monster, it's like an easter one or something.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, that's we We actually had that with the
Speaker 1: Purple people. Lead. My son seven year old just came in,
Speaker 1: was like, what is a Purple People leader? Oh?
Speaker 2: Likes the song?
Speaker 1: We played it and then we like the song that
Speaker 1: played automatically afterwards was another song by them that like
Speaker 1: just did not hit.
Speaker 4: It was one hit wonder.
Speaker 1: Yeah it sucked.
Speaker 2: Wait didn't we do a one year about how like
Speaker 2: he really tried to do it? There's like the Monster rap.
Speaker 2: They were like really swinging for the fences after that,
Speaker 2: and they're like, nah, bro, the think the Transylvania twist?
Speaker 4: Yes, what if it happened too much? Trying to Lena twists?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know you know the lore?
Speaker 4: Oh who y'all should be I'm sure it's like playing
Speaker 4: in your house or something, but it's playing when I'm
Speaker 4: like carding pumpkins or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I that makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Halloween playlists that you know I put on for
Speaker 1: trigger treaders. You got the Thriller, you got the Somebody's
Speaker 1: Watching Me, and then like the House you know music.
Speaker 4: Love Potion number nine, they throw in random. I'm like,
Speaker 4: yeah that could count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's fun.
Speaker 2: The house music version of Spooky Scary Skeletons.
Speaker 1: So scary skeletons that I remember before.
Speaker 2: You asked me if I heard that song and I
Speaker 2: said no, and he's like, you're gonna have a kid
Speaker 2: and you will know that song eventually. And now I'm
Speaker 2: there and like I heard the original one. It was
Speaker 2: too slow. I'm like, Bro, this just sucks.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Give me the fucking four on the floor. Fucking it, bro.
Speaker 1: And they killed it with that one. Also, just when
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Monster Mash, there's Nick Wager from
Speaker 1: Doe Boys. Every year or two goes on comedy Bang
Speaker 1: Bang and does a character who is the I think
Speaker 1: son of or like related to the original creator and
Speaker 1: keeps pitching like he's got he's got a new song,
Speaker 1: a new version of the Monster Mash. And it's always
Speaker 1: the same. You have to I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: any more than that, but it's worth checking out. What
Speaker 1: is something, Danny that you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: Overrated? Is buying a dog? Like dog breeding? How are
Speaker 4: we still doing this in twenty twenty five. I wanted
Speaker 4: to say that I have a new foster, Luna, who
Speaker 4: she's gonna pop on camera real quick.
Speaker 2: She's just bringing the dogging.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, she's so cute here. Let me see,
Speaker 4: isn't she just?
Speaker 1: Is that a.
Speaker 2: Sorry? The strap had me.
Speaker 3: Get months old.
Speaker 4: She's a little shy right now, mainly because I just
Speaker 4: handed her.
Speaker 2: Past, right, She's like, I don't yeah, sorry, so a
Speaker 2: couple of guys with a podcast, I'll turn my camera.
Speaker 4: I just got her like two days ago. I'm fostering her.
Speaker 4: She's available through Pups without Borders border everyone. Yeah, they
Speaker 4: stop stop breeding dogs. They're all of our shelters here
Speaker 4: in l A are over capacity.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And she's so sweet. Yeah, yeah, so you could. You
Speaker 4: can find her on my you can find her on
Speaker 4: Post without Borders, but also on my account. I've been
Speaker 4: posting just the cutest. She took an adorable bath and
Speaker 4: just looked like a kangaroo. Honestly, she's like part dinga wow,
Speaker 4: like American dingo, which is the dog in Prey. I
Speaker 4: guess because they're like they wanted an animal that was indigenous,
Speaker 4: like to America.
Speaker 1: So oh the movie Prey.
Speaker 2: The yeah, or that's so funny you mentioned fostering. I
Speaker 2: I went outside to walk my dog and this dude
Speaker 2: was out in like near the front of my house
Speaker 2: and was like, hey, David and I was like nah,
Speaker 2: and I kept I kept him moving. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: so it's me Matt. Is this it? And was like
Speaker 2: I was like what the I'm like, well, I said wait, bro,
Speaker 2: what and he's like the dog? Is this the dog?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, this is my dog. He's like yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw I'm here. And I was like, Buddy, I'm like,
Speaker 2: who are you looking for? And then he said the
Speaker 2: name get in my house. That's not me.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'd say David.
Speaker 2: And then my fucking neighbor comes out and he apparently
Speaker 2: he was fostering a dog, a black dog like mine.
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, okay, bro, I thought.
Speaker 2: I was like you have to fight or something. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what you were trying to.
Speaker 4: Guy coming by, like yo, you got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What am I holding? That's not anymore. I don't
Speaker 2: have that on me right now.
Speaker 1: We will accept Luna as a Halloween story also because
Speaker 1: Luna is Moon and Moon is spooky.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be good enough for like
Speaker 1: a song about the moon would make it onto a
Speaker 1: Halloween playlist like towards the end, amazing, all right, thrilled
Speaker 1: to have you here, Danny. We're going to take a
Speaker 1: quick break and then we're going to come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the spooky a subject of all nuclear weapons testing.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, And just another
Speaker 1: reason maybe why it's not great to have a dementia
Speaker 1: riddle sociopath in charge. Donald Trump has ordered the Pentagon
Speaker 1: to immediately resumed testing nuclear weapons for the first time
Speaker 1: in thirty three years. Yeah, the famously chill Pentagon has
Speaker 1: managed to hold off on nuclear testing for the past
Speaker 1: thirty three years, which very unlike them. I've got to say,
Speaker 1: He's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put a knife in it and then whatever comes out,
Speaker 2: rub it on your gums and let me know what
Speaker 2: it is. Like, That's not how you test a nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: But he you know, he's just trying to keep up
Speaker 1: with Russia and China obviously, which this was like right
Speaker 1: before his meeting. Was she jimping? And so it makes
Speaker 1: a sort of sense until you realize that Russia and
Speaker 1: China have also not tested nuclear weapons since the nineties,
Speaker 1: and so what the fuck are you even talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well again it's a pathetic dick measuring contest.
Speaker 4: What this is one that we all lose, right, you
Speaker 4: know what?
Speaker 2: I mean, because like even the announcement that was right
Speaker 2: before he was meeting with Shi Jianping like to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so just so you know, I'm coming into this saying
Speaker 2: we're just doing tasting thing on me, even though based
Speaker 2: on well our research show is no no no no
Speaker 2: no no no no no no, it's a it's fun guy, technically,
Speaker 2: is what the doc the roologis told me.
Speaker 4: Anytime I think, yeah, anytime someone talks about the dick
Speaker 4: energy or whatever, I always think of that. I'm sorry
Speaker 4: to haunt y'all, but it is a haunting episode. That
Speaker 4: photo of him where he's like being spray tanned and nude.
Speaker 4: Don't know what I'm talking about. You can see everything, mate, Okay,
Speaker 4: don't google it.
Speaker 2: Violence I'm not this. I can already imagine. I've already
Speaker 2: seen numerous renderings of his nude body. Thinks that South Park, Well,
Speaker 2: this is a real one. It's not Ai.
Speaker 4: He's not all ripped and has Jesus behind him with
Speaker 4: his hand on his show.
Speaker 1: He's not Master Chief from Halo, and Jesus is not
Speaker 1: doing the spray tanning. But then I saw the wrong.
Speaker 4: Image, my favorite one, which is not Ai, which is
Speaker 4: so funny. We have to like document. My favorite is
Speaker 4: the guy that's like shooting up Heroin and Jesus is
Speaker 4: behind him.
Speaker 2: Like you didn't get that Jesus was shooting skag bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one of the one of the skills
Speaker 1: that God gave him, like really the powers that he had.
Speaker 1: And I am capitalizing he when I say that the
Speaker 1: ability to, according to that painting, take take Heroin for
Speaker 1: for people and also turn water to wine. This guy
Speaker 1: loved to get fucked up, you know, essentially the.
Speaker 2: You think he was hiding behind his savior role to
Speaker 2: be like, well, dude, I got to do this guy's
Speaker 2: heroin man, and it's like I don't know Jesus.
Speaker 1: Being done, Dude, I don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 2: Can you find a fucking vain? I need to go
Speaker 2: turn some multiply some bread and fish.
Speaker 4: Does it work for other addictions like porn that's insane.
Speaker 1: Jacking people off, or he's putting in a minding place
Speaker 1: so they're jacking Jesus step.
Speaker 2: Beside, so the Lord may goon on your our behalf
Speaker 2: vicariously gooning through him.
Speaker 1: That's a really good question. Does it work for porn addiction,
Speaker 1: and where is that painting?
Speaker 4: Where is that? I'm sure it exists. Jack, you know
Speaker 4: it does.
Speaker 2: You're saying as if he owns it. Jack, you know
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 1: It's behind me. Yeah, it's behind me, isn't it. H
Speaker 1: Victor pointed out that the in that painting, the lore
Speaker 1: behind that painting is, of course that Jesus had turned
Speaker 1: water to heroin before before that guy shot it. Yeah, Jesus. Uhclepocalypse,
Speaker 1: nuclear apocaly APOCALYI now it's probably just apocalypses are having
Speaker 1: a bit of a moment with the latest Catherine big
Speaker 1: Low movie driving on Netflix called House of Dynamite that
Speaker 1: I have heard is not that good. But but they
Speaker 1: did say it's realistic. Is the thing that scares me.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why people didn't. I heard it was good,
Speaker 4: but mixed things. Okay, so I got the other mix
Speaker 4: right right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it sounds like it would be very stressful,
Speaker 1: and it's like, just what what would happen in a
Speaker 1: I think it also presupposes Ah, it's like what if
Speaker 1: what if a nuclear crisis? What if a nuclear warhead
Speaker 1: got launched to the US during the Obama administration is
Speaker 1: essentially what the premise of the movie is and it's like,
Speaker 1: how how do you depict what would happen if it
Speaker 1: was Trump? It would be impossible. But yeah, this return
Speaker 1: to testing the nuclear weapons, which is a ecological catastrophe,
Speaker 1: bad for people's health, that for the environment, like to
Speaker 1: terrible to the point for global stability, but really bad
Speaker 1: for global stability.
Speaker 4: Well, where where is it? Does it say where they're
Speaker 4: doing it?
Speaker 1: No, it was just has like and like, we're going
Speaker 1: to start immediately. I think they have to technically do
Speaker 1: it underground like that. That's one thing that they've said, like,
Speaker 1: you can't test nuclear weapons anywhere, but i'n just testing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is all because Russia tested a nuclear powered
Speaker 1: cruise missile on October twenty first, and people are assuming
Speaker 1: that he saw that and took it to mean that
Speaker 1: they tested a actual nuclear weapon that like used nuclear fission.
Speaker 2: To know that the propulsion system is using nuclear No,
Speaker 2: that's a they want the a bomb. Huh Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can do that. I mean that's the other thing too,
Speaker 2: is like he said it's like to do nuclear testing
Speaker 2: like in kind or something, or proportionate testing. So it's
Speaker 2: not it's not him being like all right, start like
Speaker 2: time to start sending up some mushroom clouds over the ocean.
Speaker 2: But it's more like, whatever you guys do, we can
Speaker 2: do it too, because he's not fully committing to it.
Speaker 2: But I think it's still very dangerous to even make
Speaker 2: this announcement.
Speaker 1: We stopped in ninety two, friends stopped in ninety six
Speaker 1: trying to Russia aren't known to have conducted tests since
Speaker 1: the nineties. Only North Korea. Yeah, and we're basically North
Speaker 1: Korea on a grand scale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, A shame he didn't get to meet him.
Speaker 4: These are just like currently vague warnings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just him bragging, Yeah, but also feels like
Speaker 1: the sort of shit that he's going to do.
Speaker 2: Well. This is also the thing too because as with
Speaker 2: the situation Ukraine and like the talk of Tomahawk missiles
Speaker 2: being like sent to Ukraine, that's been a huge thing
Speaker 2: for Putin to be like a, well, I've got nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons and he's doing that whole thing right now, to
Speaker 2: be like, don't arm the Ukrainians because I will use
Speaker 2: or you know, he's pump faking it, so Trump naturally
Speaker 2: he's he's having to respond because it's quote testing on
Speaker 2: an equal basis is what the actual announcement is. And
Speaker 2: then again he's meeting with you know, She of China
Speaker 2: and he has a whole like so right before that,
Speaker 2: he's like, say it right before I meet him. And
Speaker 2: then when I meet him, I'm going to be confused
Speaker 2: and know where to go on stage after I take
Speaker 2: his hand. I don't know if you saw that clip again.
Speaker 1: Another one they're shaking hands.
Speaker 2: Another one they're shaking hands and fucking she looks like
Speaker 2: he his face is so clear, like this motherfucker like
Speaker 2: it's not it's you can you already know? He's like, brough,
Speaker 2: I don't. This motherfucker is exhausting and dumb. And then
Speaker 2: afterwards he's like, Trump's like, where do we go? And
Speaker 2: there like, oh the other off the stage from where
Speaker 2: you got on.
Speaker 1: Is there a crown or something that you want to
Speaker 1: give me?
Speaker 2: No, that that already happened.
Speaker 1: You already got your glowing ord.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, all right.
Speaker 1: Let's talk haunted houses, specifically Donald Trump's various houses. I
Speaker 1: think the house we're talking about might be the one
Speaker 1: from his childhood where he was caught throwing rocks at
Speaker 1: a baby. Okay, so, but couple news story.
Speaker 2: Or is that's something he admitted in a book or something.
Speaker 1: It's in a book, It wasn't his. It was like
Speaker 1: in a book about Trump. A journalist went back and
Speaker 1: like interviewed as former neighbors as you do with like
Speaker 1: a serial killer, to be like, and they always yeah
Speaker 1: what one mom was like, yeah, funny story about that.
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, had my baby in the playpen
Speaker 1: in the backyard and went inside. Baby started wailing, came back,
Speaker 1: came outside, and a child Donald Trump was throwing rocks
Speaker 1: at the baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a roughly five year old Donald Trump is throwing
Speaker 2: rocks at the cribs. She said. I guess you can
Speaker 2: allow that maybe initially he didn't realize that there was
Speaker 2: a baby there. I don't know, right. This is from
Speaker 2: Maggie Haberman's book. They came out a while.
Speaker 1: Back throwing rocks at a baby. So the White House,
Speaker 1: first of all, is supposedly full of ghosts, which would
Speaker 1: make total sense.
Speaker 2: Why the karma is so good in that every decision
Speaker 2: been made in there.
Speaker 1: Fine, yes, built by slaves, full of some of the people.
Speaker 2: Just some slave labor, right, okay.
Speaker 1: Which usually fine usually doesn't haunt Southern plantation houses. Or
Speaker 1: anything like that.
Speaker 2: No, No, that randomly burned down.
Speaker 1: And then like some of the greatest mass murders of
Speaker 1: all time have lived in them in the house yeah
Speaker 1: or visited Yeah, true, true at the time that they
Speaker 1: ordered the killing of you know, probably a total of
Speaker 1: millions of people at this point. Definitely, because I mean
Speaker 1: George W. Bush lived there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Can I tell you all, I have been like, I'm
Speaker 4: so not into the White House, but i am so
Speaker 4: into haunted houses. I've been to so many of them. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like they're historically one of them. Yeah. One of them,
Speaker 4: which actually wrote a paper about in college, is the
Speaker 4: Whaley House in San Diego. So the Whaley House is
Speaker 4: one of the most travel channels. Like most haunted houses,
Speaker 4: it was a it's a billion different things, but it
Speaker 4: was like a courthouse. So that's why because when people
Speaker 4: would be convicted, they would hang them like in the back.
Speaker 2: But it was also a hanging area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's a graveyard, not like anyone. Oh here's
Speaker 4: the thing. Here's the thing y'all should know because I
Speaker 4: was in fourth grade in San Diego and they take
Speaker 4: you there as a field trip. So like everybody in
Speaker 4: San Diego knows this house because you go there. But
Speaker 4: Regis Filman actually spent the night there in the sixties
Speaker 4: and he said that he saw this was like obviously
Speaker 4: before he was who he was, and he I think
Speaker 4: he was just a reporter at the time, but he
Speaker 4: said he saw a woman crawl up the wall.
Speaker 1: Jesus there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it is U saw wall.
Speaker 1: This was the hold.
Speaker 2: This is in the sixties in California.
Speaker 4: I'll get a shut up, Miles. Also see.
Speaker 1: What else.
Speaker 2: It's like my mother screamed, blood.
Speaker 4: Excuse me. It's one of Travel Channel's most haunted houses.
Speaker 4: I've been there countless times. So that's an old town
Speaker 4: San Diego. I here's one thing I will tell you.
Speaker 4: I went there with my cousins one time and we
Speaker 4: were trying to take photos in the courthouse. So it's
Speaker 4: a courthouse. It's also the oldest theater. That's why they
Speaker 4: take a lot of kids there. It's the oldest theater
Speaker 4: in San Diego. It was basically an entrepreneur that used
Speaker 4: that built this big big quotes because not considered big now,
Speaker 4: but like and he rented out different rooms or he
Speaker 4: had like a pharmacy there. He had a courthouse there,
Speaker 4: he had a theater there in the house, and so
Speaker 4: we were trying to take pictures and her camera would
Speaker 4: snap a photo, scramble and then not take it. It
Speaker 4: was so wild on our phones it would like snap,
Speaker 4: I swear. So it is very creepy. It very You
Speaker 4: spend the night there, Miles and report back to us.
Speaker 1: And take a lot of hallucinogens too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll eat an eighth the mushrooms. I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be right, I'll be right.
Speaker 1: Anyways, the house that we're talking about is in Jamaica,
Speaker 1: States Queens. It's about to go back on the market,
Speaker 1: so this is actually more about a really interesting real
Speaker 1: estate opportunity for zek. It was purchased last year for
Speaker 1: eighty three or eight hundred and thirty five thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: steep loss from the two point one four million it
Speaker 1: sold for in twenty seventeen, and Trump claimed he was
Speaker 1: going to buy it back, but it seems to be bullshit.
Speaker 1: The person who bought it at first tried to make
Speaker 1: it a like a historic thing, kind of like there's
Speaker 1: just a Trump cut out in one of the rooms,
Speaker 1: just like a life sized stand up Trump cut out,
Speaker 1: which seems like it was designed to manufacture Trump scares. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Have you ever had one of those in your house?
Speaker 1: Like I had one of those. My college roommate had one,
Speaker 1: and like no less than like three times walking around
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night in the dark, and
Speaker 1: you just like you have the feeling out of your
Speaker 1: peripher You're like, holy shit, Like it's just get Michael
Speaker 1: Jordans snuck back into my heart.
Speaker 2: It's the paper one. Thank god.
Speaker 1: The owner also put up a plaque in one bedroom
Speaker 1: commemorating the first time Fred and Mary Trump fucking conceived
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. What is it in this bedroom? President Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump was likely conceived by his parents, Fred and Mary Trump.
Speaker 1: The world has never been the same, so that that
Speaker 1: airbnb scam didn't last. The house ended up being virtually
Speaker 1: abandoned and the neighbors complaint of flooding, power outages, pests,
Speaker 1: burglary scares, and overrun with feral cats. So like it's
Speaker 1: become a legit haunted house.
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed that it's like all the plagues too, It's
Speaker 4: like flooding pet focused with him. Yeah, first, Carn's so
Speaker 4: funny quote.
Speaker 1: It looked like an abandoned haunted home. One neighbor complained,
Speaker 1: and so the ghost hunter industry, you know, their ears
Speaker 1: perked up. So some amateur ghost hunters published an account
Speaker 1: of their stay on Mashable, noting their ghost detecting apps
Speaker 1: all found aggravated levels of the MF field electromagnetic field
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, in the dining room, and by the
Speaker 1: downstairs toilet.
Speaker 2: I believe that it was out the one Trump used.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to assume we've heard him complain about
Speaker 1: toilets not being able to handle his shit, and we've
Speaker 1: seen that he stores like boxes and boxes of documents
Speaker 1: across from his toilet, so we have to assume that,
Speaker 1: you know, he has some pretty haunting experiences in those rooms.
Speaker 4: The thing those walls have seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smelled.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then they went to a Wiji board and claimed to
Speaker 1: have contacted a right wing spirit named f W whose
Speaker 1: main features seemed to be horniness. It took almost an
Speaker 1: hour before a real spirit joined us at the Wiji
Speaker 1: board and reader he was the worst. The spirit who
Speaker 1: told us he went by the nickname f W. Cool.
Speaker 1: Nickname was a kind of alt right milo Yanopolis irony
Speaker 1: bro demon. After asking us, are you single, he replied
Speaker 1: that he was not. He told us that he loved
Speaker 1: Trump and that he had no message He wanted to
Speaker 1: communicate with the living outside of pussy.
Speaker 4: The people using that border, dicked, Who did you do
Speaker 4: this with? Was it like one of your coworkers that
Speaker 4: like kind of has a crush on you alongside dropping hints?
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: They were then contacted by the ghost of John Baron Trump,
Speaker 1: which John Baron is the nickname or the pseudonym that
Speaker 1: Trump uses for his fake publicist, and the ghosts claimed
Speaker 1: to be Trump's secret dead brother who now resides in
Speaker 1: the fridge. He also was so like slimmer slimer energy.
Speaker 1: Also warned them not to enter the bathroom and told
Speaker 1: them not to trust Donald the things that you must
Speaker 1: have done.
Speaker 2: What was he doing in that bathroom?
Speaker 1: Fucking now? I wonder if Andrew Schultz was like, now
Speaker 1: you tell me, dude.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for the ghost to input from ghosts
Speaker 2: first before I had him on the show. Well, now
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: He then asked for help three times. I'm left, which
Speaker 1: sounds like me in a blackout, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh where'd he go?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 2: He left his card, He left his card the dark.
Speaker 4: Did y'all ever do Bloody Mary.
Speaker 1: I mean I think I did. I think I have
Speaker 1: completed a bloody Marry one.
Speaker 4: Why don't we like Mortal Kombat. Can't we like call
Speaker 4: in others.
Speaker 2: Like candy Man versus Bloody Mary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, that's what I would do if I were there.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, bloody Mary, candy Man, and then just get
Speaker 1: out of the way. I will have you too to it.
Speaker 2: You rang, I don't know, bro, I think he's tripping. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. You might want to fight each other anyway,
Speaker 2: I'll be right back. Have it out in this bathroom.
Speaker 1: It's a really good idea.
Speaker 4: Right, It's a good Donald's. Yeah, that's what they should
Speaker 4: do in the White House.
Speaker 2: Oh, anyone, anyone who visits the White House is now
Speaker 2: obligated to do a candy Man or Bloody Mary in
Speaker 2: the bathroom.
Speaker 4: Just take out bloody Mary versus. That would be so funny,
Speaker 4: Bloody Mary versus like George Bush.
Speaker 2: You just like.
Speaker 4: Fighter.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It should start making like Freddy versus Jason movies
Speaker 1: about president historical presidents. The ghost that is most often
Speaker 1: cited in the White House is Abraham Lincoln, who I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, Like that's kind of the least
Speaker 1: scary one I can think of.
Speaker 2: Is it because he was because because he got assassinated,
Speaker 2: he got Yeah, I got like that killed their most
Speaker 2: famous person.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they I think they did know. They took his
Speaker 1: body like just across the street. So it's weird that
Speaker 1: he doesn't haunt the theater.
Speaker 2: Across the street for some beers.
Speaker 4: Right, I was blown away. I forgot whatever. The Apple
Speaker 4: one was, the Apple Show that was about Abraham Lincoln, Like,
Speaker 4: is this John Wilkspooth or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say blown away. That's not the right
Speaker 4: thing to say, but I was. I was. They just
Speaker 4: let him bleed. I know that. It was like the time,
Speaker 4: but I was like, do something please. They were just
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 1: Thing so much out of his brain, mean that he
Speaker 1: had too much weight, too much blood in there, abundance
Speaker 1: of blood.
Speaker 4: That was like they just put pillows around his head
Speaker 4: and we're like god, bless, oh my god.
Speaker 2: We not like, sir, he's dying. I don't know, more pillows. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that blood was dying to get out of
Speaker 2: that head. He's lucky. His head didn't explode from all
Speaker 2: the blood that's trying to get out of there.
Speaker 1: That assassination is so wild. The first of all, the
Speaker 1: fact that John Wilkes Booth was like as famous as
Speaker 1: I'd say Alec Baldwin. Maybe like he was like a
Speaker 1: very famous.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting choice, like Glenn Powell or like his brother.
Speaker 2: Was going to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his brother was more famous, but he wasn't like
Speaker 1: Billy Baldwin. He was like part of an acting dynasty.
Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah, maybe Scars Guard would be a better example.
Speaker 1: But uh, And then that we actually have a show
Speaker 1: that we're developing for big money players revisits that day
Speaker 1: and some of the information, like the person who was
Speaker 1: supposed to be guarding him was shit faced. Well, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be back to
Speaker 1: talk about clowns. Besides, Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: Got it got him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll retire now maybe maybe now that I got.
Speaker 2: His asked hard, or you'll end up somewhere else, And
Speaker 2: we're back.
Speaker 1: And so we we have a new clown based horror
Speaker 1: show that's happening in alignment with Halloween. HBO's Welcome to
Speaker 1: Darry which, as I was saying to miles yesterday, I
Speaker 1: thought it was What's the Girls? Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was Dairy Girls, like another season another one these girls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it is instead just a poorly named movie that
Speaker 1: tries to or streaming series that tries to create like
Speaker 1: the Marvel cinematic universe of Stephen King novels, when so
Speaker 1: you know, they all happen around a like Maine usually,
Speaker 1: and so they're like, what if this main town was
Speaker 1: all like that, all those stories were happening at the
Speaker 1: same time, and they've gone in a weird direction with
Speaker 1: this one. First of all, I just I just want
Speaker 1: to say I was pretty surprised by the premise of
Speaker 1: this show. In this show, the US government has enlisted
Speaker 1: Dick Halloran you may remember him as the character played
Speaker 1: by Scabban Brothers in The Shining, to help capture Penny
Speaker 1: Wise and use him against the Russians and Cubans to
Speaker 1: prevent the impending Cuban missile crisis and win the Cold War.
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Stranger Things?
Speaker 1: It's first of all, this idea that they're always because
Speaker 1: this is like the thing that I think it worked
Speaker 1: in like the first few Alien movies. And then I
Speaker 1: was like the idea that you would be like, we
Speaker 1: gotta keep going after this like thing that is an
Speaker 1: existential threat to humanity and trying to like use it
Speaker 1: as a weapon that like we it just kills everybody
Speaker 1: who comes even close to contacting it. See, seems weird
Speaker 1: to me. I'm done with that trope. Yeah, like yes,
Speaker 1: but like if in the movie Jaws, like the mayor
Speaker 1: had been like, yes, but could you imagine if we
Speaker 1: could capture the sharking use it as a weapon against
Speaker 1: a neighboring town, Like it's just such a dumb like
Speaker 1: use it against VI causing over and over. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? So that's that's weird. I'm hearing again
Speaker 1: mixed things about this show me too.
Speaker 4: My friends have said, I'm like, is it scary? Though
Speaker 4: I need you to answer this as a horror head,
Speaker 4: is it scary? Yeah, it's scary. And then I was
Speaker 4: watching it, I was like, is it scary? My defin
Speaker 4: definition of scary is very fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victor points out, like it's very Stephen can't like
Speaker 1: I did read The Myst, which is the novel about
Speaker 1: a haunted myst that comes comes for one and like
Speaker 1: the story there is it's implied like there's something going
Speaker 1: on with like the military doing research into the Elder Horror.
Speaker 1: But like that, I think it's applause. But like with
Speaker 1: Godzilla or something, I think it's a plausible jumping off
Speaker 1: point to be like, yeah, the military is gonna fuck
Speaker 1: something up and now it has unleashed a horror onto us, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But for it to just be like we're trying to
Speaker 1: capture the monster like Ghostbusters, It's just it's giving too
Speaker 1: much Ghostbusters energy of like we're gonna fucking vacuum up
Speaker 1: Pennywise and like put him in a box and then
Speaker 1: unleash him. It's just it's a little bit dumb to
Speaker 1: me to like that that keeps happening over and over again.
Speaker 1: I don't think the US military is up to it.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm like, How are they going to
Speaker 1: use it against the Russians? Just like lower children into
Speaker 1: sewers somehow? Like can't you just do that yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, offer them free candy, Yeah already.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they explain it in a way that's air tight.
Speaker 4: I also feel like most like I've been watching, like,
Speaker 4: I feel like most kids are actually not afraid of clowns. Like,
Speaker 4: it's adults that are afraid of clowns. I like you
Speaker 4: put I don't know if you put Pennywise with my
Speaker 4: niece and nephew, they'd probably like try to paint his
Speaker 4: nails or something.
Speaker 1: He does need it too, his nails look terrible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so HBO sent a bunch of creepy clowns all across
Speaker 1: the world, some appearances creepier than others. In one location,
Speaker 1: Pennywise just went on a scenic hot air balloon ride.
Speaker 1: Got to use that budget somehow.
Speaker 4: Man, that's the Emily in Paris that I want to see.
Speaker 4: That would be so good.
Speaker 2: Him in Paris.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Miles, don't give them ideas. I would
Speaker 4: watch that him just like you know what, what is that?
Speaker 4: It's that meme with Freddy Krueger, and it's like been
Speaker 4: chasing in their dreams. I forgot to chase my own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like having a croissant for the first time,
Speaker 2: is mine. It's so he just keep falling.
Speaker 1: On my head.
Speaker 4: He just needed gelato to realize that he doesn't actually
Speaker 4: want to kill Yeah, an artist dad.
Speaker 1: He is looking over the edge of this hot air
Speaker 1: balloon like either looking like thoughtful and like what have
Speaker 1: I done with my life? We're also like, damn, that's
Speaker 1: way down there. That's kind of scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of looks like a dude who is
Speaker 2: just looking out of a hot air balloon, but in
Speaker 2: Pennywise costume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost as if that's what it is or that's
Speaker 1: what it literally.
Speaker 2: Is, but also just described the image.
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember the rash of I think this
Speaker 1: was right before we started this show, but the rash
Speaker 1: of like clown like creepy clown things where like people
Speaker 1: would be like walking in the street sload this footage
Speaker 1: down that I was taking out of the window of
Speaker 1: my car and there are just like clowns standing like
Speaker 1: in a tree staring directly at me like in this
Speaker 1: and they were like they kept bringing people's doorbells and
Speaker 1: like doing scary shit. It was around twenty sixteen, which
Speaker 1: coincided with the release of the movie It and the
Speaker 1: marketing team behind it have always said like they had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, But I do think the
Speaker 1: fear of clowns is still is still out there. Based
Speaker 1: on the research that our writer JM dug up for
Speaker 1: this and the fact that, like, while it's not explicitly
Speaker 1: a clown villain, I will say the villain in weapons
Speaker 1: is very clown adjacent totally. Yeah right, it's yeah like
Speaker 1: giving Ronald McDonald.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure Ronald McDonald if you put
Speaker 4: them in the microwave for a few seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 4: Also, I believe I'm probably naive. I kind of believe
Speaker 4: that it team that they didn't do that clown like.
Speaker 4: I think it's just like teams importantly, Yeah, have you
Speaker 4: met people in Portland like they would totally wherever it was?
Speaker 4: I forgot where. I think that's where it was though,
Speaker 4: but it's.
Speaker 1: A really creepy one in Australia, I remember where people like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just like there were many
Speaker 1: internet stories of like people being like, yeah, this clown
Speaker 1: like showed up and everybody like chased it into this
Speaker 1: park because they're scared of it. Yeah, So things reasons
Speaker 1: to explain our fear of clowns, because I think, just broadly,
Speaker 1: the idea is like, but clowns are supposed to be funny,
Speaker 1: that's their energy at the circus, and we're all scared
Speaker 1: of them. What happened? And so some theories John Wayne
Speaker 1: Gacy probably didn't help serial murder who had occasionally dressed
Speaker 1: as Pogo. The clown didn't dress up as Pogo very often.
Speaker 1: Some people are like, it can't be that he didn't
Speaker 1: dress as Pogo very often. If a person, a teenager
Speaker 1: well dressed as a clown, that that is on my
Speaker 1: that's printed on my brain, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I didn't know he dressed to that decided
Speaker 2: like to paint that shit.
Speaker 1: Well then yeah, So once he was captured and became
Speaker 1: like a serial killer celebrity among the people who are
Speaker 1: into serial killers, he did have a nice little second
Speaker 1: act of his career drawing self portraits of himself as Pogo.
Speaker 4: Because was okay, God.
Speaker 1: I think he was eventually executed. But so one expert
Speaker 1: points out that like this shift towards seeing clowns as
Speaker 1: creepy wasn't actually a shift, because clowns are were and
Speaker 1: this is a quote from this academic expert, never really
Speaker 1: good and often fulfilled the role of villain in stories.
Speaker 1: He says, it's misleading to ask when clowns turned bad.
Speaker 1: When's the writer Benjamin Radford, in his History Bad Clowns,
Speaker 1: they were never really good said, Universal two is the
Speaker 1: casting of the antagonist, the representative of evil in the
Speaker 1: role of the clown devils. Both the lusty thick heads
Speaker 1: and the sharp, clever deceivers are always clowns. So there's
Speaker 1: like this trickster demon thing that clowns have always been
Speaker 1: tapping into.
Speaker 4: And okay, but the original clown was the gester. The
Speaker 4: jester was good. He was like the right of man
Speaker 4: to the king. But yeah, I mean he could say
Speaker 4: the things that like, that's what we need and what
Speaker 4: we need a gester I don't know who that is,
Speaker 4: but someone that's on our side, that's like can actually
Speaker 4: take down the king because that's what they did. So
Speaker 4: they were like the one person that could make fun
Speaker 4: of without being executed.
Speaker 1: I do think the clown like the thing that makes
Speaker 1: the most sense to me, and I don't think it
Speaker 1: necessarily always fits with gestures. Is the makeup, Like, sure,
Speaker 1: the makeup is fucked it. It exaggerates the human face
Speaker 1: and covers the human face with paint at the same
Speaker 1: time making humans seem less human and introducing kids to
Speaker 1: clowns can be incredibly disquieting because children's brains are still
Speaker 1: developing and it's like, I feel like it's kind of
Speaker 1: our first experience with the Uncanny Valley oftentimes when we're kids,
Speaker 1: where like the thing is like human but also not quite,
Speaker 1: and they like it's like they're they take human emotions
Speaker 1: and like warp them through like a weird fun house mirror,
Speaker 1: so they're like exaggerated and creepy, and also their facial
Speaker 1: express their facial features are like big and weird and scary.
Speaker 2: I think because I'm not afraid of clowns, I could
Speaker 2: give a shit about a clown. But my first experience
Speaker 2: with the clown was fucked up because this motherfucker got
Speaker 2: in my face at a kid's party and I remember
Speaker 2: crying and being upset because this dude just like was
Speaker 2: like and I was like, fuck, bro, I'm like four,
Speaker 2: I've read this like I didn't come here for this shit,
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know. And I see that
Speaker 2: a lot too, Like you'll see like at birthday parties,
Speaker 2: like there's always like some clown overstepping to a young
Speaker 2: kid and being hey, here's something for you. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's that's me personally.
Speaker 4: I think for me, it's the fact that they're like
Speaker 4: there's that trope that the person that the funniest in
Speaker 4: the room is normally the saddest, like the side clown trope,
Speaker 4: And then that became like a whole art thing, like
Speaker 4: a lot of art of sad clowns. That's like that's
Speaker 4: actually their internal monologue.
Speaker 2: But I think, yeah, isn't it just I feel like
Speaker 2: this is this just has to be like learned. This
Speaker 2: is like a learned fear. It's I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's like anything really like a universal truth to a
Speaker 2: clown that make like, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 2: like they like with snakes, children aren't afraid of snakes
Speaker 2: when they're very young because they don't know about it.
Speaker 2: Because they're they learn that behavior to fear a snake,
Speaker 2: like heights, are much more of like a thing a
Speaker 2: small child can process to be like oh I don't
Speaker 2: like this. I don't like this.
Speaker 1: I will say so there. A group did research into this,
Speaker 1: okay they're pulling found that more than half of people
Speaker 1: are scared of clowns, which is higher than common fears
Speaker 1: like heights and flying. They said more than half the
Speaker 1: respondents said they were scared of clowns at least some
Speaker 1: to at least some degree, and five percent said they
Speaker 1: were extremely afraid of them, which that percentage of extreme
Speaker 1: fear of clowns is slightly higher than those reported for
Speaker 1: phobias like animals, heights, blood injection, injuries, still water or
Speaker 1: weather events, closed spaces, and flying, which I would have
Speaker 1: definitely thought fear of flying seems much much more common.
Speaker 1: And then so they surveyed the people who admitted they
Speaker 1: were scared of clowns, which I would never admit. That's weakness.
Speaker 2: Trousers are soaked? Are you okay, sir?
Speaker 1: Sweating? I just ran over here. Asked them to choose
Speaker 1: a possible explanation for the fear, and the strongest factor
Speaker 1: turned out to be clown makeup hides emotional signals and
Speaker 1: creates uncertainty, meaning that we're freaked out by clowns because
Speaker 1: we can't see their true faces and therefore cannot understand
Speaker 1: their emotional intent.
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying, Yeah, I don't know they're internal,
Speaker 4: and that I'm not afraid of clowns, but I don't
Speaker 4: really like zombies. I don't really like I'll watch zombie movies,
Speaker 4: but they're very similar to me, and that I don't
Speaker 4: like zombies because you can't reason with them, Like if
Speaker 4: fucking Michael Myers are a serial killer, whatever was across
Speaker 4: for me, there's a chance that I could maybe.
Speaker 2: Tell your buy your bu.
Speaker 4: Yo, let's work this out. Let's work, you know. But
Speaker 4: not a zombie because they're not like they're half human.
Speaker 4: They're not quite human. That's the thing I don't like
Speaker 4: about them. They make inhuman movements yea and so, and
Speaker 4: they have like inhuman faces. So I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: really like zombies. That's that's I'm not right out apocalypse.
Speaker 4: I can't the nuclear whatever, I can't have any zombie.
Speaker 4: I can't be hills. Hills have eyes in it.
Speaker 2: You do fuck with clowns, Jack, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, like I'm not terrified of them, but
Speaker 1: I do feel like any time I'm near a clown,
Speaker 1: I like don't want to know more about that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get closer. I feel like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some sad ship.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of clown, but when I see that ship,
Speaker 2: I go, but what a fucking loser.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of.
Speaker 4: It's not right, but it's not even like it's not
Speaker 4: even McDonald is a billionaire, So Ronald.
Speaker 2: McDonald is a loser, you know what I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: say it to his face. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's just something. Even to me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's like it's just dumb. It's not. It doesn't really
Speaker 2: pushed me in one laner or the other. I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, fucking clown and then I just kind of
Speaker 2: keep going. But you people, I worked with somebody who
Speaker 2: was colorophobic, I believe is the term for the fear
Speaker 2: of clowns. And I remember at the time because they
Speaker 2: were like a grown ass person, I was like they
Speaker 2: were like.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I hate clowns.
Speaker 2: I hate clowns. And I'm like, okay, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: And somebody there was, uh, there was a video we
Speaker 2: were watching like for like like there's like an a
Speaker 2: writer's room. It comes up and there's like a clown
Speaker 2: in it. This person started fucking like had to leave
Speaker 2: the room and was like, yeah, was like fucked up.
Speaker 2: And I remember being like, yo, I didn't even realize
Speaker 2: earlier they said they were fucking afraid of I didn't
Speaker 2: even know it was like that.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, like I feel the dogs is not
Speaker 1: a thing that prevents you from seeing a dog on TV.
Speaker 1: Usually you know it's not going to like fuck you up,
Speaker 1: like just seeing it at a distance.
Speaker 4: But yeah, have you all got the tweet? It's like
Speaker 4: been out for years. But by Cohen is a ghost,
Speaker 4: It says, the most cutting thing you can say is
Speaker 4: who's this clown? Because it applies there a a clown
Speaker 4: and be not even one of the better known clowns.
Speaker 4: If you're one of the top tier.
Speaker 2: Clowns, Yeah you're and even Pero bro.
Speaker 1: The list of reasons in order of like most common
Speaker 1: to least common of why people are afraid of clowns
Speaker 1: an eeriar, unsettling feeling due to clown makeup making them
Speaker 1: look not quite human, similar to dollars and annequins. Clown
Speaker 1: number two clowns exaggerated facial features convey a direct sense
Speaker 1: of threat. Three clown makeup hides emotional signals and creates uncertainty,
Speaker 1: which is kind of the same as number one for
Speaker 1: the color of clown makeup reminds us of death, infection,
Speaker 1: or blood injury, and evokes disgust avoidance. This five is
Speaker 1: my favorite. Clown's unpredictable behavior makes us uncomfortable. I think
Speaker 1: that's I think that's where I'm coming in. I don't know, man, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're just doing too much and it's like what I
Speaker 1: can't get a gauge on, like what their angle is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I fucking I love to smell a carnation.
Speaker 2: All my favorite things, your favorite carnation of someone's lapela,
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: Or the like zapping when they shake your hand. I
Speaker 4: just love jack the idea of you going up and
Speaker 4: being like, what's your angle?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your what's that ship?
Speaker 2: And honestly, that's a flex if you could get a
Speaker 2: clown to break like that by just getting so in
Speaker 2: their minds like hey, man, what's your running from? Like
Speaker 2: whose face do you not? Whose face do you not
Speaker 2: want to see in the mirror anymore?
Speaker 1: The that's the That's a really deep and cutting question.
Speaker 1: The last three of the last three the least common
Speaker 1: are fear of clowns learned from family members, negative portrayals
Speaker 1: of clowns in popular culture, which I will say, yes,
Speaker 1: there have been creepy clowns, but like Krusty really holds
Speaker 1: it down for me, Like I'm not Krusty is like
Speaker 1: the best ambassador.
Speaker 2: For clown, Like, this guy's a sad drunk man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's just a sad, a normal guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand krusty and his behavior is fairly predictable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: unlike real class, but he does dad. And then number
Speaker 1: eight a frightening experience with a clown, which I think
Speaker 1: everybody would have assumed like that was the thing that
Speaker 1: did it. But it's more just like we don't like
Speaker 1: your whole shit.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe yeah, And I'm trying to think. I mean,
Speaker 2: I get the whole thing of like I can't read them,
Speaker 2: therefore it's scary. But to the point, like if that's
Speaker 2: like one of my overarching fears is like I cannot
Speaker 2: understand what is going on with this person emotionally. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so I.
Speaker 1: Usually don't care about, like I'm not a sick. I
Speaker 1: wonder if like clown fear is more common with like
Speaker 1: salespeople who are like, I gotta read this guy, I
Speaker 1: got to pick up his angle, what's this shit?
Speaker 4: I feel like though, if a car full of clowns
Speaker 4: showed up right now and there was like thirty of
Speaker 4: them that got out of a mini coup, like we
Speaker 4: would kind of be into that yeah, I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this happened a good time.
Speaker 1: Balloon animals are fun.
Speaker 4: Balloon animals, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe my thing is too. Like anytime if a
Speaker 2: clown tried to be scary, I'm like, what's up then?
Speaker 2: And I think that's the They're like, goofy. I'm like, yeah, dude, goofy. Shit,
Speaker 2: you're trying to be scary? Bro than what then? What's up?
Speaker 1: But I mean Terrifier just came out. Yeah, that's another
Speaker 1: one that is really like that way overperformed. It went
Speaker 1: from like a movie someone made in their backyard to
Speaker 1: fucking like a big box office success this year with
Speaker 1: Terrifier three. So I do feel like clud like the
Speaker 1: fact that we are in our shared consciousness unsettled by
Speaker 1: clowns is kind of an underrated thing that people are
Speaker 1: still exploiting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, colorophobic ZiT gang, please let me know.
Speaker 1: I let him know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm why what happened.
Speaker 2: We're from the same planet mostly, so I'm just like,
Speaker 2: let me in and your colra full world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and good and good luck out there on Halloween because,
Speaker 1: like I said, probably top two or three costumes.
Speaker 4: And if clowns ghost face roomy.
Speaker 2: Right and if I swing on you for dressing like
Speaker 2: a clown because I thought you were trying to square up.
Speaker 2: I'm very sorry in advance. I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 1: Danny Fernande is such a pleasure having you on the
Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm at miss Danny Fernandez on Instagram And I
Speaker 4: just dropped my horror short. Oh my god, speaking up.
Speaker 4: Tis this season premiered at La Leaf and Essence Fest
Speaker 4: and Chicago horror Fest and like a bunch of fests.
Speaker 4: So you can catch it on YouTube right now. Bruhita
Speaker 4: prod is my which is Little Witch.
Speaker 1: That's my escort.
Speaker 4: So that's my YouTube. Yeah, you can check it out
Speaker 4: or you can just check the link in my bio
Speaker 4: on Instagram. It is a fun You'll notice Oscar Montoya
Speaker 4: is in it, Chris Renfro like a lot of familiar faces.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's a little psychological horror. Check it out, watch
Speaker 4: it in the dark.
Speaker 1: There you go, and all their work Amedia you want
Speaker 1: you want to recommend other than that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So speaking also of horror, smile too. So have
Speaker 4: you seen it? I love that. I'm like smile too. Okay,
Speaker 4: n only Scott, I know people listening who have seen it.
Speaker 4: She deserves an Oscar for this betrayal. It was so
Speaker 4: this was last season for award season, but like she crushed.
Speaker 4: She did so good. She plays a pop star who's
Speaker 4: being haunted by the whatever smile thing, and I mean
Speaker 4: she just went full one hundred and ten percent Oscar
Speaker 4: worthy so good.
Speaker 1: It is scary hearing that from people who really like movies.
Speaker 4: Jack, you gotta watch it.
Speaker 1: To do that shit. Miles Where can people find you
Speaker 1: as there? Work a media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. And
Speaker 2: if you want to hear about ninety day Fiance, I
Speaker 2: do that at four to twenty day fiance work a media.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch Night of the Demons two, I think later,
Speaker 2: because the first one was so campy and terrible that
Speaker 2: I just in the background, we're carving a pumpkin later,
Speaker 2: although I don't know if that's probably good for a
Speaker 2: child who's not even three yet. Look, we're figuring it out.
Speaker 2: We're figuring it out.
Speaker 1: You can help them, by the way, I've noticed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can help them out. What you don't need to
Speaker 1: help them carve the pumpkin.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, not in this house. That's not how.
Speaker 1: Put the tools in front of them. I say, don't
Speaker 1: cut yourself.
Speaker 2: Don't that's that's sharp and just see where we end up.
Speaker 2: It's funny because her Majesty was like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is good. It's like one of those very dull,
Speaker 2: like pumpkin sauce that you use for carving. He'll be
Speaker 2: all right, He'll be all right. He also will probably
Speaker 2: lose interest in three minutes, so yeah, we'll be right.
Speaker 1: Well, we are going to be all right. You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack underscorel Brian on Blue
Speaker 1: Sky at jack Obi. The number one. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of like a horror movie that I can recommend.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm just gonna go with fucking Hereditary.
Speaker 1: I watched it for the first time this year. I
Speaker 1: thought it was really good. Scare the shit out of me. Also,
Speaker 1: there's this kind of little known filmmaker who made a
Speaker 1: movie called The Shining in the early eighties. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know about The Shinning. Yeah, is it
Speaker 1: called the Is that how it's pronounced that's another symptoms joke. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at
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Speaker 1: can go to the description of this episode wherever you're
Speaker 1: listening to it, and there at the bottom you will
Speaker 1: find the footnotes, which is where we link off to
Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode. We
Speaker 1: also link off to a song that we think you
Speaker 1: might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think
Speaker 1: that people might endure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is from Mick Jenkins' new album. It's called
Speaker 2: a Murder of Crows. This track is called words I
Speaker 2: should have said a name I know, but featuring Uh
Speaker 2: the vocalist rapper any from the UK. The UK, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, the UK has so many good rappers, like
Speaker 2: the the Like the women rappers that I'm listening to
Speaker 2: out there are like they're bodying American rappers. I just
Speaker 2: think they're like they're po I don't know, like lyrically
Speaker 2: like I love Little Simms. Annie is also fantastic e
Speaker 2: n n Y. She's on this track with Mick Jenkins.
Speaker 2: I love this track too because it's like one of
Speaker 2: those beats where you don't get a snare drum. There's
Speaker 2: no like back beats, so you just get the bass
Speaker 2: and you always think like you're gonna get that fucking
Speaker 2: snare and you don't. And that tension is great because
Speaker 2: it makes the lyrics hit even harder. And it's a
Speaker 2: very self aware song. Anyway, words, yeah, snedging Yeah, words,
Speaker 2: I should have said, Mick Jenkins, any e, n n
Speaker 2: Y check it out, all right.
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