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Speaker 1: It's that time time time lucking load to Michael Very show.

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Speaker 1: It's on the air.

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Speaker 2: Guys looking into mic week gotta feed ay bead. I

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Speaker 2: don't plan to shave, and it's good the thing, but

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Speaker 2: I just gotta.

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Speaker 1: See I'm doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Will I'm make me support. It's beating verdict.

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Speaker 1: That's the true. It's either drink and drug and just snool.

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing alright.

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Speaker 2: It's a great tad be I know, suns still shining

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Speaker 2: in a close night eyes. It's hard times in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: But whyk in every day?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: I said, for folks in Houston, we had a turd

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Speaker 5: gully washer last night. I don't know how far it went,

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Speaker 5: but a buddy of mine was between Chapel Hill and

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Speaker 5: Brenham and they didn't get a drop, not a drop.

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Speaker 5: So he's on the southeast side of Brenham, on the

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Speaker 1: I said.

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Speaker 5: They could see the storm clouds, but not one drop.

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Speaker 5: Ja'll get a lot of rain. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: So George, who is ferocious?

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Speaker 5: If somebody's coming in the house, if there is a storm,

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Speaker 5: she's reduced to a puddle. So if you want to

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Speaker 5: because she's not going to bother you. And and so

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Speaker 5: my wife led her into the bedroom because otherwise she'll

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Speaker 5: pee on a storm night.

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Speaker 1: And she decided at two o'clock the dog, the dog,

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Speaker 1: my wife's not going to pee. She might be, I

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Speaker 5: She decided, did George, that she was coming into the

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Speaker 5: So she jumps up on the bed, laying on top

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Speaker 5: of me, her head on my head, and my wife said,

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Speaker 5: I knew you were mad, and I wanted to take

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Speaker 5: a picture so bad, but I didn't have a way

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Speaker 5: to do it. She said it was the cutest thing.

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Speaker 5: Ever it was not cute, so I'm grumpy. I didn't

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Speaker 5: sleep well. Now you've been warned. That is ostensibly the reason.

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Speaker 5: Former HISD Chief Operating Officer Brian Busby, this is the

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Speaker 5: number two at the largest school district in the state

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Speaker 5: of Texas, along with a landscaping contractor.

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Speaker 1: Because this is how they do it. They do it

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Speaker 1: at the city, they do it at the county.

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Speaker 5: You hire people to perform services for the governmental entity.

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Speaker 5: They inflate the bill and kick it, kick some.

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Speaker 1: Of it back to you.

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Speaker 5: Along with landscaping contractor Anthony Hutchison, found guilty by a

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Speaker 5: federal jury for defrauding the district through a bribery and

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Speaker 5: over building scheme stole millions for nearly eight years. Was

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Speaker 5: only stopped because the FBI raided his home and HISD offices.

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Speaker 5: Now we had a protest over the weekend city Hall.

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Speaker 5: They don't like Trump. Trump is bad Trump, no good Trump, nobody, No,

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Speaker 5: we don't like Trump.

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Speaker 1: We fed up. So they say they fed up. They

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Speaker 1: look fed up. They're fat as hogs. Yeah, you really

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Speaker 1: fed up. But they're really fed up with Trump.

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Speaker 5: But there will be no marches, no protests, not a

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Speaker 5: word from the anti Mike Miles crowd. Remember the state

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Speaker 5: had to take over the school district. Where are all

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Speaker 5: those people who are so fed up with Donald Trump?

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump didn't steal in your money. Donald Trump's not

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Speaker 5: running your school into the ground. Not one protest, not

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Speaker 5: one of them. Where are those people? The story from

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Speaker 5: ABC thirteen.

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Speaker 6: I disappointed Brian Busby leaving federal court this afternoon. One

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Speaker 6: a hisd's success story, working his way from janitor up

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Speaker 6: to chief operating officer. After about six hours deliberation, the

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Speaker 6: jury has decided he's guilty on all thirty three counts

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Speaker 6: relating to a bribery scheme. District landscaping contractor Anthony Hutchison

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Speaker 6: was found guilty on all charges.

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Speaker 1: Too well. I'm very disappointed and frankly, I'm shocked. The

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Speaker 1: verdict was too quick. Thirty three counts, two defendants. It's

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Speaker 6: Federal prosecutors accused Busby of steering landscaping contracts to Hutchison,

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Speaker 6: people have already accepted play agreements in this case, admitting

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Speaker 1: Stat Hold on, Hold on, hold on. They didn't bother

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Speaker 5: The district president, so the elected official who's head of

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Speaker 5: the board, who also pled guilty. One of the five

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Speaker 5: who pled guilty in this scheme. She worked for Rodney

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Speaker 5: Ellis during the day at his county office.

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Speaker 1: She was arrested.

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Speaker 5: She had just left being the board president of HISD

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Speaker 5: and had gone to the Houston Community College. So her

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Speaker 1: He runs the county. I mean, he's really the county judge.

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Speaker 5: Then he gets her, she gets elected to be president

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Speaker 5: the Houston Community College. It's almost like they're looking for

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Speaker 5: these big pots of public money where they can pay

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Speaker 5: people and get kickbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's almost as if there's a culture of this.

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Speaker 5: They don't bother to tell you that one of the

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Speaker 5: the school board. The person the story is about is

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Speaker 5: the chief operating officer, so paid staff, an executive officer

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Speaker 5: within HISD. The president of the school board was taking

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Speaker 1: Gosh it, well, they think they're at Harris County.

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Speaker 6: I disappointed Brian Busby leaving federal court this afternoon, and

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Speaker 7: There's really not you think we could say we feel

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Speaker 7: very strongly to our client Watson guilty and still feel

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Speaker 7: that way. But I also always never criticized a jury.

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Speaker 7: I know they did what they thought was right. We

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Speaker 7: to have to deal with that with he dec go

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Speaker 6: FBI Houston's Special Agent in Charge, Doug Williams released his statement, saying,

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Speaker 6: in part, at the end of the day, we want

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Speaker 6: to make sure corrupt individuals like Busby and Hutchison are

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Speaker 6: brought to justice. Today's guilty verdict is a step towards

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Speaker 6: that justice. Adjudgentatively set their sentencing date for July twenty eighth.

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Speaker 5: That's the culture. That's why HISD was broken. That's why

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Speaker 5: Harris County is broken. That's why the city of Houston

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Speaker 5: is broken. That's why the Houston Community College is broken.

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Speaker 1: This this is the reason. It's not accidental.

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Speaker 5: It's not any reason other than self dealing corruptocrats and what.

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Speaker 1: Are we doing.

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Speaker 5: We'd probably name a building for Brian Busby, and that

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Speaker 5: how this works. We've got Terminal E named for Sheila

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Speaker 5: Jackson Lee, now Harris County Administration building named for Sheila

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Speaker 5: Jackson Lee. And there's a new story on the fire

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Speaker 5: Hydrants don't work. They showed up fire department showed up

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Speaker 1: Hydros don't work. They probably named them for Sevester Fartman.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, this is Mickey Gilly and you're listening to

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Speaker 1: Michael Berry.

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Speaker 5: I got an email over the weekend that said, hey,

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Speaker 5: wasn't it during Holy Week that Shirley Cue.

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Speaker 1: Lickor came home?

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Speaker 5: So we dug into the archives early this morning and

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Speaker 5: dusted it off. And in fact, it was thirteen years

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Speaker 5: ago this week Shirley Q Lickor came home to Orange.

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Speaker 1: Shirley Cue.

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Speaker 5: I got a call from a police officer buddy of

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Speaker 5: mine in Orange tells me, there are you just moved

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Speaker 5: back to Orange on Wednesday and there are already problems

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Speaker 5: at the church.

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Speaker 1: What is going?

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Speaker 8: You never know?

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Speaker 9: Fine, just so I come over there and not somebody

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Speaker 9: out Michael Beery, Oh my god, are you still a

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Speaker 9: turn at Lowell?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Sort of yes, Well you need some.

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Speaker 9: You don't or something?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 9: See do it? Then search ones out here in Orange

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Speaker 9: texts for anybody's last name Littor l i q u

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Speaker 9: old Arthur. They got the house around. I don't know

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Speaker 9: whether come out there or not. Everything had went wrong.

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Speaker 9: Michael Bert, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's happened, Shirley Quine.

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Speaker 9: I have just got back down here in Orange Textas,

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Speaker 9: and just in time for Holy Week. I'm trying to

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Speaker 9: do the right thing. Everything had went wrong on me,

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Speaker 9: and my nerves is in a shambler turret. Last night

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Speaker 9: I went down at Holy Thursday, down here my holy

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Speaker 9: all the second Baths sign church that had been in

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Speaker 9: five years. I expected a nice welcome from these women,

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Speaker 9: on these extremely priced hats. They got down here at

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Speaker 9: Pleroro and I made the party Easter do not mean

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Speaker 9: about hats, And all I got was dirty look from

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Speaker 9: He had got too much liquor up in him and

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Speaker 9: we had to import a past to bless his heart

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Speaker 9: from nose Orange Baptist churches. The old white man and

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Speaker 9: That was ignorant. And then so we got all that

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Speaker 9: got nineteen of them right down here, trying to reenact

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Speaker 9: good Friday. I said, y'all getting turn him to loose

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Speaker 9: my ignorant son, Shathim. They had him being the lord.

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Speaker 9: They had may Hawk Jent all over him, and blue

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Speaker 9: Bonnis all the crown of ignorance on his head trying

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Speaker 9: told him, y'all a blasphemy up in here. And they

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Speaker 9: Shamika was supposed to be ponscious pilot. It was just

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Speaker 9: a tragedy. I'm so glad that he didn't send nobody

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent ignorance, my co bear.

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Speaker 1: So tell me.

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Speaker 5: How Orange has changed since since you've been away. And

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Speaker 5: I know I've been getting calls from people in Orange saying,

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Speaker 5: is it true that Shirley cu Lickor has come home?

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Speaker 1: And how has it changed.

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Speaker 9: Well, I say, it took me for ever to get

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Speaker 9: down here, honey. We first I called the Continental Trailways

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Speaker 9: and uh, they don't even exist no more. So they

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Speaker 9: we pulled up the Baton Rudge down there and spent

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Speaker 4: Line?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm on in bound Rouge now on WJBO.

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's right, we had you on. Now we was

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you think there are warrants out for your

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Speaker 9: I don't know, Michael Ben. My memory is so bad.

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Speaker 9: It seemed like something happened at Walmart last time I

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Speaker 5: The last time I talked to you, Shirley Q, you

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Speaker 5: with eminent you were what was going on with that

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Speaker 9: Yes, I got the POTPO had pulled me down. I

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Speaker 1: Oh, not guilty, not giled.

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Speaker 9: I don't remember how it went, but it was true

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Speaker 1: Oh I do. Oh, I'm gonna play that. That was good.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's my way of getting back into the system

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Speaker 9: of that. And I'm gonna register the boat. Can I

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Speaker 9: register the boat? Michael Berry?

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Speaker 5: I don't think you qualified, Shirley. Let's not discuss why I.

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Speaker 9: Don't have a birth certificate. That's for one thing, and

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Speaker 9: out to all these women who feet look like egg

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Speaker 9: that's all written in them notary public words. I can't understand.

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Speaker 5: So did the people of Orange recognize you when you

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Speaker 9: No, in the middle of the night, Honey, I had

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Speaker 9: and stuff. But uh, I'm just looking around for me

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Speaker 9: Michael Bell. Where do I get my loan star card?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I would not. I assumed you would have had

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Speaker 9: That's my priority. Now I'm back in Texas. I need

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Speaker 9: I need to find a guy of cashes. It's been

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Speaker 9: Come over and see me. Y'all know why he is

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Speaker 9: just if I was the smell of pickle juice because

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Speaker 1: Sureley q Licker.

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Speaker 5: We are delighted to have you back in the great

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Speaker 1: And home where you belong in Orange.

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Speaker 5: I know you got washed out with was it Katrina

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Speaker 9: Katrina told me out of Mississippi, and then Rita told

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Speaker 1: They don't have aims anymore, do they?

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Speaker 9: They don't they be closer. They don't have a Cancis

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna have to run for city council or something.

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Speaker 9: If I surely Lee Jackson could do it, I could

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Speaker 10: See Michael Berry's show, Francis has hassed.

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Speaker 1: Get to that in just a moment. But Shirley c.

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Speaker 5: Lickor referred to the poem she wrote, uh to protest

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Speaker 5: of our favorites. It's called not guilty.

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Speaker 8: Michael Berry, how you doing? You know you've got a

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Speaker 8: Gates for us even right here has County. They listened

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Speaker 8: have wrote it. It's called not Guilty. I helped my

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Speaker 8: Come about, lay on the ground, don't move, And all

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Speaker 8: flew my wig hat, I said. If this car had

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Speaker 1: And waved and drove right on past.

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Speaker 8: No, y'all got nothing better to do than to harass

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Speaker 1: Who know they alphabet backwards?

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Speaker 11: I show his hair.

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Speaker 8: Don't y'all feel somebody test was designed by a punk?

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Speaker 8: How you gonna claim I was intoxicated if you was

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Speaker 1: You was not at the bar. Make me breathing the things?

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Speaker 1: Oh please, who would defend me?

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Speaker 8: She La Jackson Lee a Congress ladd At sent them McKinley, Yo, honor,

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Speaker 8: I begged this court from mercy. I've been sitting in

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Speaker 8: wallace is fifty. Please, your honor, I am some not guilty, yes, Floyd.

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Speaker 8: And now back to the Michael Beair program of ignorance.

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Speaker 5: Well, just keep naming things for Sevester Turner. I guess

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Speaker 5: you can name the fire hydrants for him. He did

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Speaker 5: such a great job to fire hydrants fail. As Houston

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Speaker 5: Fire Department fought a three alarm fire in Northwest Houston.

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Speaker 5: KPRC investigation, three hundred and twenty fire hydrants in the city.

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Speaker 1: Are out of order.

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Speaker 5: John Whitmer says this is the result of the past

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Speaker 3: Dangerous situation sparked in Northwest Houston.

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Speaker 11: I was down there standing some furniture to blaze. Cut

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Speaker 12: What started as an eye catching blaze at this drywall

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Speaker 11: That was worried about it blowing up.

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Speaker 12: Fire officials say as crews arrived and started battling the fire,

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Speaker 12: they quickly learned that two nearby fire hydrants weren't working.

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Speaker 11: Very concerning because that is our lifeline. That water is

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Speaker 11: what establishes, you know, obviously than the what we.

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Speaker 1: Need to put out the fire.

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Speaker 11: More importantly, we need that to protect our firefighters.

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Speaker 12: Fire officials say they quickly moved to plan B, calling

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Speaker 3: Water the length of about eight dozen football fields.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's going to take a lot of manpower and apparatus.

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Speaker 4: We're basically moving that water from the fire hydrant so

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Speaker 9: A lot of power.

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Speaker 12: Thankfully, Planned be Worked and Cruise were able to contain

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Speaker 13: Honestly, I will leave here, go back to City Hall

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Speaker 13: and whole public Works and other city employees.

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Speaker 12: Accountable now speaking about what will public Works do next.

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Speaker 12: I actually reached out to them and ask them several

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Speaker 3: They tell me that right now the city's water department

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Speaker 1: Kprctvs.

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Speaker 5: Mario Diaz filed an investigative report talking about three hundred

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Speaker 5: and twenty fire hydrants out of order in the city.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gave six years of my life. It

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it is, But I spent years before

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Speaker 5: city of Houston. That might seem corny, but when I

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Speaker 5: it was very good to me, and city leaders past

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Speaker 1: There were titans of.

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Speaker 5: Industry, luminary sports stars who all I had to do

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Speaker 5: I was nobody, nobody knew me. Would go to breakfast, lunch,

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Speaker 5: answer questions, would support me in politics because they thought, well,

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Speaker 5: this guy could do a good job, and he's trying hard,

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Speaker 5: and you know that you never forget things like that,

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Speaker 5: and when you're passionate about a city and you've studied

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Speaker 5: the decline of others.

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Speaker 1: Detroit, for instance, Detroit was a great city, a truly

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Speaker 5: Chicago, Chicago was one of the great cities in history

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Speaker 5: fell apart, happening here and for many of the same reasons,

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Speaker 5: racial voting, corruption, inside dealing.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Amy Davis at.

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Speaker 5: Mario Dz. This is not a shot at anybody else,

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Speaker 5: That's not my intention, because.

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Speaker 1: There are good There are good reporters.

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Speaker 5: In the city of Houston, and Fox twenty six has

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Speaker 5: done an amazing job, I mean amazing job on the

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Speaker 5: crime beat.

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Speaker 1: But I have to give credit to KPRCTV.

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Speaker 5: They have done I think they're doing the best, the

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Speaker 5: best non crime related because I think Fox twenty six

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Speaker 5: has won that the best non crime related investigative reports

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Speaker 5: over the last few years between Amy Davis and Mario Dz.

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Speaker 1: But just listen to this.

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Speaker 13: If we don't make the city safe from that workable

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Speaker 13: fire hydrants, nothing else matters.

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Speaker 14: The use in Fire department tells two investigates three hundred

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Speaker 14: and twenty fire hydrants are currently out of service.

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Speaker 3: That means hydrants in.

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Speaker 1: Front of holmes and business.

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Speaker 14: This is inoperable in the event of an emergency, exactly

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Speaker 14: what Houston firefighters endured in Northwest Houston Thursday as firefighters

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Speaker 14: discovered two hydrants.

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Speaker 1: We're not working.

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Speaker 13: Fire hydrants should be and is our has.

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Speaker 14: Priority, But Houston Mayor John Whitmyer says previous administrations haven't

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Speaker 14: made fire hydrants a priority for years. HFD says there

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Speaker 14: are more than fifty nine thousand of them around the city.

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Speaker 14: For years, Houston has had a well documented infrastructure problem,

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Speaker 14: combined now with the fact that the city is in

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Speaker 14: the midst of a budget crisis. This said, Whitmier says,

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Speaker 14: there is no excuse for what happened at the scene

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Speaker 14: of Thursday's warehouse fire.

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Speaker 13: Honestly, I will leave here, go back to city Hall

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Speaker 13: and hope public Works and other city employees accountable.

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Speaker 14: The mayor told two investigates during a call today that

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Speaker 14: public Works in HFD now have plans for complete review

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Speaker 14: of city hydrants, without going into specifics, so we.

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Speaker 13: Can't continue to jeopardize our safety because we don't have

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Speaker 13: the right resources.

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Speaker 14: Another thing to consider, jeopardizing the safety of Houston fire

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Speaker 14: personnel and the public may open the city up for

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Speaker 14: potential litigation.

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Speaker 15: I'm sure the city Attorney's office is nervous about hearing

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Speaker 15: that number. That three hundred and twenty fire hydrants throughout

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Speaker 15: the city are are not functioning properly.

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Speaker 14: Bottom line for Houston based attorney Joe Venus.

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Speaker 15: Whoever they need to light a fire under, they need

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Speaker 15: to do it city legal right, and the Mayor's office

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Speaker 15: and the fire department, everybody needs to This needs to

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Speaker 15: be a conservative.

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Speaker 5: City of Houston has been sued and settled over not

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Speaker 5: funding drainage. The plaintiff, a legendary engineer in this town,

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Speaker 5: will be our guests.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to sell Michael Berry show.

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Speaker 5: Lat Merrians don't know everything, they just know where to

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Speaker 5: find everything. When I decided I was going to run

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Speaker 5: for city counts well, I went and spoke to every

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Speaker 5: living city councilman who had previously served. Gracie Sins, Jim Westmoreland,

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Speaker 5: you name it, every controller I could find, George Grinnius,

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Speaker 5: you name it. I had multiple meetings very productive, very

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Speaker 5: fruitful with Bob Lanier, and he loved the fact that

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Speaker 5: I would look at the spreadsheets with him, and that

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Speaker 5: I had studied other cities. And he had hired Bob Moses,

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Speaker 5: who was famous for the parkways through Dallas. Sorry he

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Speaker 5: had hired Robert Carrow, who wrote the biography of Bob Moses,

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Speaker 5: and flew him down and he stayed at his home

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Speaker 5: for quite some time to explain to him what Moses

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Speaker 5: had done. Bob Lanir was serious about the job of

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Speaker 5: being mayor and improving the city. So when I decided

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Speaker 5: I was going to run, I met with every one

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Speaker 5: of them. I met with the finance people, but I

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Speaker 5: needed to understand the engineering of a city, which is

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Speaker 5: a big deal. And so there were several names given

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Speaker 5: out to me, and the one that popped up the

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Speaker 5: most was an absolute legend named Bob Jones, and we

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Speaker 5: developed in the course of his tutelage of me. We

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Speaker 5: developed a friendship that lasts to this day and he

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Speaker 5: has just there is an update in a lawsuit. Bob

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Speaker 5: Jones is one of these guys that cares about things

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Speaker 5: that you and I don't, thank God for it. He

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Speaker 5: cares passionately about whether when it rains, the water drains

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Speaker 5: off or rises. And the truth is, it's not just

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Speaker 5: how much rainfalls that determines such things and can damage

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Speaker 5: your home and ruin your investments. It's the city's infrastructure.

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Speaker 5: And there is a development in a case that he

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Speaker 5: has been pursuing. Bob Jones as our guest, welcome, sir, Well,

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Speaker 5: thank you, Michael.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty nice tribute. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Do you doubt for a moment my sincerity?

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Speaker 4: Bob? I've never doubted your sincerity?

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Speaker 1: Well have I not said the same thing to you

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Speaker 1: off air?

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Speaker 5: There is an update in the Houston Chronicle, maryor John

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Speaker 5: whitmyern plaintiffs in Houston's drainage lawsuit have reached a deal

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Speaker 5: on how the city will fund future street and drainage projects.

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Speaker 5: Tell me why you brought that suit, explained to folks

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Speaker 5: who are not I don't know how many years you've

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Speaker 5: been an engineer forty years, who are not engineers, why

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Speaker 5: this matters and what the city was doing wrong.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with that. I've been in Houston, practiced engineering

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Speaker 4: for fifty four years. The suit comes out of an

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Speaker 4: activity that got a change to the city charter started

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Speaker 4: in about twenty ten. Case was thrown out. There was

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Speaker 4: a new election in twenty eighteen. The previous administration was

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Speaker 4: diverting money that was supposed to go into a dedicated

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Speaker 4: drains and street renewal fund to other purposes. As soon

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Speaker 4: as we discovered that, Alan Watson I filed suit against

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Speaker 4: the city. We won in district court. We lost in

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Speaker 4: the Court of Appeals. We won in spring court, went

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Speaker 4: back to the district court. We lost. The district court

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Speaker 4: went back to the Court of Appeals. Court of Appeals

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Speaker 4: agreed with the original ruling from the Supreme Court. We

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Speaker 4: won the case. City tried to petition for rehearing. The

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court denied, so we won the case. The case

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Speaker 4: was an ultra virus claim, meaning that the city mayor

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Speaker 4: and council violated the charter. They did not follow the law,

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Speaker 4: and the court said, you have to follow the law,

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Speaker 4: you have to put the proper amount of money into

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Speaker 4: the account.

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Speaker 5: And I won't ask you to speculate on where the

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Speaker 5: money went. But that meant that they were using the

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Speaker 5: money for other things that clearly were not their core responsibility.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's correct, or the core obligation.

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Speaker 1: So give us a two minute.

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Speaker 5: You've done this for me, but give us a two

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Speaker 5: to three minute explanation on how drainage actually works, the

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Speaker 5: watershed and all of that.

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Speaker 4: That's a trick question. Well, the watercourse drains from somebody's

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Speaker 4: house out of the street, whether it's an open ditch

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Speaker 4: or whether it's a closed conduit storm shore, which makes

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Speaker 4: its way ultimately to some lateral channel and then into

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Speaker 4: the Buffalo boos and the white oak bios sims boughs

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Speaker 4: in the city of Houston. So drainage is affected by

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Speaker 4: how much water accumulates in the boos and backs up,

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Speaker 4: or how much water is trying to get forced through

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Speaker 4: the storm shore of the drainage system. That it's like

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Speaker 4: if you turn your hose on in your yard, a

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Speaker 4: certain amount of water comes out. You can put a

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Speaker 4: lot of pressure on it, but you can't get much

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Speaker 4: more water out of the hose. And if you put

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Speaker 4: four more links the hose on it, less water comes

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Speaker 4: out because of the friction losses inside the pipe. So

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Speaker 4: the draining system is an accumulation of facts that start

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Speaker 4: with the local drains and they build up as we

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Speaker 4: get to the outfall in Houston. You cannot put a

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Speaker 4: big enough storm store line in to drain all the water.

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Speaker 4: So when it rains in Houston, some water ponds in

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Speaker 4: the street, and when the water ponds in the street,

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Speaker 4: it's given the system time to work. The reality is

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Speaker 4: rainfall in Houston is like snowfall in other parts of

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Speaker 4: the country. The only difference is when it rains in Houston,

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Speaker 4: you can park your car and you can wait a

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Speaker 4: couple hours, the water runs off and you can drive again.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to wait for a snowplow, you don't

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Speaker 4: have to wait for some other change to the infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: So it's a unique system. We're very, very flat, so

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Speaker 4: water accumulates and builds up. But in most places, most instances,

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Speaker 4: water drains off fairly rapidly through the system and we're protected.

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Speaker 4: And we have places all through the city where there's

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Speaker 4: flaw in the storm sewer, in the altohol channels and

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Speaker 4: in the biosystem that cause more flooding events than what

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Speaker 4: I would say, or street flooding events.

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Speaker 5: And so what are the I've got a minute before

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Speaker 5: we go to breakon, hopefully you can stay with us

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Speaker 5: a little longer. What are they failing to update. What

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Speaker 5: are those drainage projects that need to.

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Speaker 4: Be done well. The city has suffered simply from lack

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Speaker 4: of repairs and lack of upgrading the almost entire street

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Speaker 4: and drainage system. Now we have a lot of places

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Speaker 4: in the city where the storm serves are fine and

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Speaker 4: we just need to fix the streets. And we have

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Speaker 4: some places where the streets are fine, but we don't

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Speaker 4: have good draine and drainage outfall because we have underfunded that.

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Speaker 4: In this renew Houston program we started in twenty ten

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Speaker 4: was to put the city on an even keel, to

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Speaker 4: have funds available to thick streets and drange.

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Speaker 5: On fund has been shortened a hold just a moment,

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Speaker 5: and there was an ad during that time they said

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Speaker 5: politicians cannot divert one cent. That's what a nice porker

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Speaker 5: and Stephen Costello told us, Well, they sure as hell did.

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Speaker 5: Bob Jones, legendary engineer drainage and why the water rises

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Speaker 5: coming up