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Speaker 2: My daughter's friend stole her expensive pants, but her parents

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Speaker 2: refuse to admit it. Give her back the pants, give

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Speaker 2: her those paints. Those are her pants. Background. We have

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Speaker 2: been family friends with the Smiths for about four years now,

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Speaker 2: which I assume is a fake name. We have kids

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Speaker 2: at ages that mesh up perfectly, so it's always a

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Speaker 2: good time when we get together. They're great people that

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Speaker 2: we trust. They have a daughter that will call Carol

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Speaker 2: and we have one will call Laura, both twelve years old.

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Speaker 2: Laura is a bit shy, but the kind of girl

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Speaker 2: who opens up and has a great time with a

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Speaker 2: best friend, which Carol is. Laura is also very organized

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Speaker 2: and clean. She knows where all her stuff is and

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Speaker 2: it's exceptionally rare that she misplaces anything. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from user white thunder nine on the r

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Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime stubreddit. So the incident doun doun don.

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Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, we had Carol over to swim

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Speaker 2: with Laura in our pool. Before they went in the pool,

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Speaker 2: Carol and Laura went in Laura's room. At some point,

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Speaker 2: Carol started looking in Laura's dresser, apparently just browsing. Laura

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Speaker 2: was a little weirded out by this, but didn't think

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Speaker 2: too much of it. Carol at one point says, wow,

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Speaker 2: these are nice Lululemon pants.

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Speaker 3: Wow, wow wow.

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Speaker 2: Laura had gotten them about a week prior as a

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Speaker 2: cost about one hundred dollars. She was very excited about them.

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Speaker 2: So they talked about them briefly, and then Carol put

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Speaker 2: them back. The girls then went out and swam for

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Speaker 2: a while, then came back inside and changed. Carol left

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Speaker 2: her bag in Laura's room while they hung out for

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Speaker 2: another hour or so. When it was time to go,

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Speaker 2: Carol went and got her bag from Laura's room. The

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Speaker 2: next day, Okay, Laura was absolutely freaking out before school

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Speaker 2: because she couldn't find her pants.

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Speaker 3: Not the lou lou Lemon pants.

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Speaker 2: If I got nice pants, don't touch my nice pants.

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Speaker 3: Just don't touch any of my stuff.

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Speaker 2: I've had nice pants ruined before.

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Speaker 3: Don't take my clothes.

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Speaker 2: She looked in every drawer, she looked in her sister's drawers,

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Speaker 2: looked through all of her dirty clothes, the laundry room, everywhere.

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Speaker 2: The pants were nowhere to be found. We certainly didn't

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Speaker 2: want to assume the worst of Carol, but somewhat related,

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Speaker 2: Laura did mention that Carol was wearing a different friend's crocs,

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Speaker 2: which she said she had borrowed from said friend. So

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Speaker 2: my wife and I decided my wife would call Carol's

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Speaker 2: asking gently if maybe Carol had mixed up Laura's pants

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Speaker 2: with her stuff. Carol's mom said she asked Carol about it,

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Speaker 2: but Carol said she didn't have the pants.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine this, call hey, missus, Carol, just so

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Speaker 3: coin getting care? Do you think Carol? Did you think

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Speaker 3: Carol got these nice pants? Like, I don't know, we're

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Speaker 3: missing pants. Do you think she has the pants?

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Speaker 2: Straight up? Did Carol get confused and accidentally go through

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Speaker 2: my kid's drawer? And uh, is she went through my

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Speaker 2: So we went back to a theory that they got misplaced,

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Speaker 2: but several weeks passed and we still didn't see them again.

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Speaker 2: Very unlike Laura for something like this to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's the pants Ghost.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, at school, Laura sees Carol wearing what suspiciously looks

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Speaker 2: like her Lululemon pants. She notices the logo on them

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Speaker 2: on the lower back, the pocket list design, that her

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Speaker 2: especially considering the implication in Carol's first reaction to them

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Speaker 2: and then Carol seemed uncomfortable and it seemed like she

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Speaker 2: was trying to hide the logo on them. Oh, Carol, Carol,

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Speaker 2: in the middle of a school related event. So when

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Speaker 2: my wife explained the situation, the response was huh okay,

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Speaker 2: I will check that later tonight and get back to you.

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Speaker 2: It seemed a little more casual than she expected. Today

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Speaker 2: at school, Carol seemed the same as usual, like nothing

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Speaker 2: had happened. No mention of the pants, no mention of

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Speaker 2: her mother talking to her about it, nothing. Laura, being

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Speaker 2: about it either. We've not heard from Carol's mother either,

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Speaker 2: and it's been over twenty four hours, so now we're

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Speaker 2: not totally sure what to do. Do we wait another

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Speaker 2: day or two, do we call a third time and

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Speaker 2: up the rhetoric a bit. My wife hasn't used the

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Speaker 2: word stolen yet, but that's only because we thought the hint,

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Speaker 2: least tell Carol, you need to give those back. Do

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Speaker 2: we just let it go at this point and cut

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Speaker 2: our losses. We had already set up a date to

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Speaker 2: have their family over for dinner this Friday, So now

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Speaker 2: we're kind of dreading that because if we don't say

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Speaker 2: to us, we're gonna have that in the back of

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Speaker 2: our minds the whole time and not be super thrilled

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Speaker 2: about it. Not to mention, we can't trust Carol in

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Speaker 2: our house because who knows what she has her eyes on. Next.

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Speaker 3: Like we said, what is.

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Speaker 2: The best thing to do here? Ready?

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Speaker 3: I think we have an update?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go to an update.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned in my original post, we planned to

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Speaker 2: have the Smiths over this past Friday night for dinner.

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Speaker 2: This was just coincidental. The date was set up like

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Speaker 2: a month in advance and a week or so prior

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Speaker 2: to the pants disappearing. It was on a Tuesday that

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Speaker 2: my wife called Carol the thief's mom to tell her

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Speaker 2: my daughter Laura saw Carol wearing her pants at school.

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Speaker 2: Side note, I thought she cut the logo off the

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Speaker 2: waste portion of the pants to hide the evidence. Apparently

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Speaker 2: it was cut off of the calf as well, so

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Speaker 2: it was plainly obvious as there was just a big

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Speaker 2: in seeing what she saw. Carol's mom made no mention

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Speaker 2: of this all the way until Friday, when the family

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Speaker 2: alone chatting. The conversation went something like this, Oh, are

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Speaker 2: you ready, I'll be Carol's mom. Let me I can

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Speaker 2: read it, and I'm gonna put on an affectation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I will try my best to read this.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound like that who's the character from Big Mouth? Ugh?

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Speaker 3: Lola?

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Speaker 2: A you probably that one? Yeah? All right, okay, here

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Speaker 2: we go. So the pants. I asked Carol about them

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Speaker 2: again and she said she hasn't seen them. I went

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Speaker 2: through her drawers. I couldn't find them. I know when

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Speaker 2: stuff gets lost at my house, it's usually in a

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Speaker 2: siblings drawer. Oh, she pulled the key on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that. We checked every drawer in the

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Speaker 2: Yes, she really implied that the pants were under the

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Speaker 2: effing couch. My wife somewhat bewildered. Em No, pretty sure

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Speaker 2: they're not there. Oh, that's so weird that they're just gone.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit more lengthy of a conversation than that,

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Speaker 2: talked about this for a long time that night. In

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Speaker 2: the interest of brevity, here are the conclusions that we

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Speaker 2: came to. Carol's mom is not taking this nearly as

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Speaker 2: seriously as she should, not just because we're out one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge problem. Again, not a good start

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Speaker 3: for a twelve year old.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get ahead of that, Yeah, Carol and her

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Speaker 2: mom have insufficient respect for the property of others. Also true,

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Speaker 2: Carol is never invited to our house again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, back to this sea. That means the Smiths cannot

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Speaker 2: The Smiths might not be in our lives anymore. We're

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Speaker 2: still trying to figure this one out. Since their son

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Speaker 2: just must be served, and you may be right. That

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Speaker 2: and get Carol's mom to cut us out of their

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Speaker 2: amount of effort we mostly my wife, have put into

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Speaker 2: it thus far and the amount of additional bad blood

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Speaker 2: We've told her that she doesn't have to cut Carol

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Speaker 2: the assumption that Carol will steal from her given the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: and that mistrust is going to be a problem in

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Speaker 2: maintaining the friendship. She was totally understanding and in agreement,

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Speaker 2: but she said she didn't want to cut Carol out

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Speaker 2: to Lululemon this weekend and bought her the same pants again.

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Speaker 2: We told the clerk there about the situation, and you

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Speaker 2: should have seen the look on her face. Probably looked

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Speaker 2: like what you're feeling as you read this, a mixture

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Speaker 2: of disbelief and rage. And by the way, I would

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Speaker 2: be in complete disbelief, maybe not rage, but definitely disbelieve,

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Speaker 2: Beyond any reasonable doubt. Those pants were Laura's and Carol

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Speaker 3: Because like what op set is like, We've pushed way

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Speaker 3: Like, we need we just need the we need the proof,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just presented in a way where it's not

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Speaker 2: Let's find out just really sucks to learn this about

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Speaker 3: You just started spreading rumors, so read it.

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Speaker 2: What say you did we make the right call. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it was right there, and you

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Speaker 3: For you to keep talking behind her back and behind

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Speaker 2: My child is getting bullied and my wife is letting

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Speaker 3: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: That, like, oh, you have a good friend at school,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would like to think at this point she's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I yeh. Doug Bowling has been sort of just

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Speaker 2: which has caused multiple arguments between us. Mama, what are

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Speaker 3: Mama?

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Speaker 2: You're like, call it, talk to your friend? Why are

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't like that. That's a weird ten

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Speaker 2: What it's weird.

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Speaker 4: This has nothing to do.

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Speaker 2: With mom is toxifying her daughter's autism.

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Speaker 2: What this is? Why let's keep going? This has also

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Speaker 3: Why does mama mamaself like this.

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Speaker 2: Here recently, I had a day off where Enis came

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's okay. You don't have to be friends with

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Speaker 2: Yes. When I ask her why she doesn't ask Sarah

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Speaker 3: Mom's not even Mom's not even momming right now, tell

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Speaker 3: At all. This is so so backwards, alright's she's I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mom is mom is acting in and absolutely disgusting fashion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I know, people, aren't you Like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't tell how to you know, how to parent

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Speaker 3: no you're not.

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Speaker 2: Here, No, this is trash. Sarah also has dirt on

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Speaker 2: about every meltdown Enis has had, omitting she's autistic, and

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00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,359
Speaker 2: just simply making it seem like Enis is a bad kid.

439
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 3: What the actual just that? Oh, pe you gotta I

440
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't like this.

441
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 2: It really feels like and I hope I'm wrong here,

442
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 2: but I feel like I'm not. It feels like it

443
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 2: feels like Enus's mom hates her for being autistic, and

444
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: Enus's mom is ashamed of her.

445
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 3: Being I was gonna say she's ashamed. I was gonna

446
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: say Unus's mom or mom in this case, does not

447
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 3: want it.

448
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 2: I shouldn't let me rephrase. It's not that she hates

449
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 2: her because she's autistic. She hates her autism.

450
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 3: I think she's just ashamed. I don't think she the

451
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 3: word hate. I don't think it's she hates it. I

452
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: think she just is ashamed of.

453
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, dude, like telling all of the

454
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 2: stories about her meltdowns without saying that she's autistic, and

455
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: then just being like painting her like she's a bad kid.

456
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she's just ashamed of that. I don't know.

457
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 3: Just keep reading, but I don't want you to keep reading.

458
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 2: Sarah uses these stories to threaten Enis and say that

459
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: she'll tell their other friends if she doesn't do what

460
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 2: she wants. Sarah has even begun leaving Enis out of

461
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: friend group activities or games because Enus is too skinny,

462
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 2: too dumb, or too boring. She has told her teacher,

463
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: but by the end of the fourth grade it resulted

464
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: in Enus being called a tattletale to my wife, to

465
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 2: which my wife told Enus about upon returning home and

466
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: laughing at her, saying she can't be like that or

467
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: she will have no friends.

468
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 4: I hate this. I don't like this story at all.

469
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,479
Speaker 2: She was just simply following the advice my wife and

470
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: I gave her every school year that if she's being

471
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: bullied to tell the teacher. Now, Enus is too scared

472
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: to speak up and would rather take this abuse than

473
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: face unnecessary consequence.

474
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 4: This is so stupid.

475
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: This mom needs to be thrown into a black hole

476
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: and what disappeared For real, this mom is actively sabotaging

477
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 2: her own daughters like.

478
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: And she's this is again starting out a not a

479
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: very young age, but at a young age, and I

480
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: hate this.

481
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh it needs to step in and take some authority here.

482
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Opie really needs to. I don't know what's going on.

483
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: I knew sometimes Sarah and Enis did not get along,

484
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: but until today, I didn't know it was this bad.

485
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: I feel like a failure of a father. I should

486
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: have noticed all the signs of my wife's abuse when

487
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't home. I should have noticed Era and Enus's

488
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: friendship was toxic, and I should have known Enus was

489
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: traumatized time after time. I should have noticed her progression

490
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 2: with toileting going on, verbal and even increased meltdowns as

491
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: signs of something bigger at play. I don't think counseling

492
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: will fix my wife and I's relationship, which I agree with.

493
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 2: You should just be leaving her and cutting her out

494
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: of your life and your daughter's life. She is a

495
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: fiercely negative energy.

496
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 3: No, she needs I mean I was gonna say she

497
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 3: at least needs some counseling. Mom needs to be aware

498
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: of like what she's doing is wrong.

499
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: Sure, everyone has the right to improve the ars her

500
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: attempts to improve themselves, but I don't think she's I

501
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: think she has forfeited the right to do it within

502
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 2: the presence of her daughter. Yeah, she does not deserve

503
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: to be able to parent this child. I now realize

504
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: that she doesn't care about our daughter, and that's a

505
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 2: deal breaker. Through and through. I'm going to see if

506
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 2: I can talk to the school tomorrow and see what

507
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: can be done about this, as there's a new special

508
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: led teacher working there now. I might even consider transferring

509
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: her if it will not be too much for her,

510
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: as I genuinely do not want her near that awful

511
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: child and her family again. I'll be putting Enis back

512
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: in therapy as well. Oh yes, I like, okay, this

513
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: is getting better. Thank God. As soon as I was like,

514
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: where's the dad, dad is showing up. That is understanding. God.

515
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say or do about my

516
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: wife as I realize nothing will make her understand that

517
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: she has harmed our daughter and caused her so much trauma,

518
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: normalizing abusive friendships, and essentially ruining what little social life

519
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: she has now as Sarah is one of the most

520
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: disliked kids at school and no one talks to people

521
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 2: who associate with her. My daughter did not have friends

522
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: before Sarah, and now she doesn't want them. She wants

523
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: to socialize, but now she thinks friendships are exhausting and

524
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to deal with that. And by the way,

525
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: we'll always deal with you joining us on YouTube and

526
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Facebook and Twitch and TikTok when we go live every

527
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: weekda at three PMPST. All you gotta do is tap

528
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: our profile. And if you're watching this in the future,

529
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: we might even be live right now, so go ahead

530
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: and check it out.

531
00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 3: Right after this, I'm past the point of being mad.

532
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm just so disappointed and sad damn that that's how

533
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: crazy it is. Like just as like, Okay, this is

534
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: this is really crappy. This is really crappy. This is this,

535
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: this just this is I feel so.

536
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: Bad situation for us. You know, at least the dad

537
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: was like feeling something.

538
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: Right.

539
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: No, the dad was like, oh, I feel like I'm

540
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: a failure. Yeah, which you know, I mean, you're not

541
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: an entire failure as a parent because you're taking the

542
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: active steps now to try to fix this, or you know,

543
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I would hope that you have begune that. But like

544
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: it's sometimes it's it's hard to see stuff.

545
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when you there's two parents and it sometimes

546
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: and the other parent was just like brushing it all

547
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: under the rug, like oh and not even brushing on

548
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: the rug. She was just making it worse. She was brushing, yeah,

549
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: actively actively making it worse.

550
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: Now, this she was in a this this mother was

551
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: like it emotionally abusing her daughter so old and actually

552
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: well no, and there's probably a little bit fiscal in

553
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: there too, because she was giving her and stuff.

554
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: At first, I was like, oh, she's just being so

555
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: overprotective that it's so bad, and it's like it's a

556
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: negative overprotective, but it's not even being protective anymore.

557
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: It's just like, no, it's yeah, it's it's all the

558
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: way back.

559
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

560
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Let's see how this finishes off here. I'm unsure if

561
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: my original plan is a good idea or not, so

562
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: I want to know if there's anything else I should

563
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: be doing or something I should consider for my daughter.

564
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: She's currently in her room napping right now, but once

565
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: she wakes up, I'm going to order her favorite dinner

566
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: and watch care Bear movies with her until bedtime, which

567
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: that made me smile. That's the first time I've smiled

568
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: with this story. I think I will also consider giving

569
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: her the day off of school tomorrow, because I know

570
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: she will not mentally be well enough to go to

571
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: school after everything she's confessed to me and the mental

572
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: breakdown she had in my arms prior to her nap.

573
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: She has not been absent at all this year, and

574
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: I think this one day won't hurt as I think

575
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: a day without Sarah is very much needed, and that

576
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: is the end of that. The boy by nanny for

577
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: is a creep and I am sick of his behavior.

578
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: You're a creep, shout out radiohead, so I am from

579
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: the US and recently moved to Italy to nanny. I

580
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: feel this is important because so far I have not

581
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: been able to tell if I'm struggling with a cultural

582
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: difference here in Italy or if I actually have reason

583
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: to be weirded out by the way. This comes from

584
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: user nanny throw on the r slash okay storytime Stubreddit.

585
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 2: So it's easy to tell that the son Dario is

586
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: in middle school as he is already several inches taller

587
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: than me and his mom and has maybe thirty pounds

588
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: on me. Is that easy to tell? I feel like

589
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: schoolers are not larger than grown adults. Yeah wait what

590
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: When I first got here, some of that stuff that

591
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: freaked me out a little I could handle, and I

592
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: chalked it up to being an Italy thing. This includes

593
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 2: stuff like talking almost exclusively in a baby voice when

594
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: addressing his parents, calling his parents mommy and Daddy, fighting

595
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: physically with his little sister over who gets to sit

596
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: on mom and Dad's lap multiple times throughout the day,

597
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: fighting with the sister over who gets to sleep with

598
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: the parents, getting extremely upset when mom or dad leaves

599
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 2: for the day, and whining about not getting enough kisses,

600
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: or time laying in bed kissing with mom and having

601
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: his parents blow on chewed food in his mouth because

602
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: it's too hot. Now, I really don't want to be

603
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 2: critical of this if it's normal here, you know, But

604
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: in the US, I seriously can't imagine a single seventh

605
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: grade boy engaging in any of these behaviors. So it's

606
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: really new to me, and really it hadn't affected me,

607
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: so I just let it be. The problem is, though,

608
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: that now I'm starting to get involved and it's making

609
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: me really uncomfortable. For example, our rooms have adjacent windows

610
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: which allow the kids to see into my entire room

611
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: at all times.

612
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: Why is that a thing?

613
00:27:51,119 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: That's like just it? That's a bad thing. Everywhere, Ay, Zimbabwe, It, China, America,

614
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: anywhere is bad.

615
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: If you know, it's not good in your own home,

616
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: it's not good in.

617
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 2: That Soviet Russia. It's never been a good thing to

618
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: have a window into your room for other people to

619
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: look into.

620
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you have no way of like closing that

621
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: up from anyone. Not a good thing.

622
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: Good invest in drapes. What are you doing to me?

623
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: This is very inappropriate because what am I supposed to

624
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: do when I need to change clothes. But I also

625
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: don't want to seem like I'm accusing the children of

626
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: being peepers or anything like that, so I just politely

627
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: asked for curtains, thank you, and took to changing in

628
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: the bathroom. After weeks without curtains, the family finally promised

629
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: me that someone was coming to put them up. Well,

630
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: he only put them in the kids room. Ever since

631
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: the curtains went up, I find Dario peeping through the

632
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: curtains at me multiple times a day. Now. I'm sure

633
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: he is just checking on me or curious about what

634
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm up to, but it makes me so uncomfortable, afraid

635
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: that they would think I was accusing their baby boy

636
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: of trying to spy on me while I'm changing, So

637
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: I just took matters into my own hands and hung

638
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: a blanket up over my window. Another issue has been

639
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: that when we stay at the kids grandparents' house, there's

640
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: a room for the parents with a bed for one

641
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: child and a room for me with a bed for

642
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: one child. I figured we would split up the boys

643
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: and girls and I would stay with the daughter. But

644
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: nighttime rolls around and Dario is crawling into the bed

645
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: next to mine. I was so uncomfortable I could hardly sleep.

646
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: I've talked to my friends at home about this, and

647
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: they all think it's really weird because we aren't related

648
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: and he's a teenager. Now, yeah, eyebrows are fully raised

649
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: at this entire situation.

650
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: This is very, very odd.

651
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: But this is of course an American opinion.

652
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: Stop with that, Stop with that, stop with that, stop

653
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: with that. I do not like that American thing. Like,

654
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: if you are uncomfortable, you are uncomfortable. Yeah, exactly, that's

655
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: not a culture thing. Like if it's like food, that's

656
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: one thing. But like if you're being treated very specifically,

657
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: or you're not being respected, or you're things that you

658
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: just don't like, that's not an American thing. Especially if

659
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: you're a different country. It's not an American thing. You're

660
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: not being like, it's not frowned upon to be like,

661
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: I'm not comfortable with this. It's okay to say you're

662
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: not comfortable. I don't understand why you're defending that. I

663
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: don't like that excuse.

664
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, because this is of course an American opinion,

665
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: I can't tell for sure if we're imposing our ideas

666
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: on this family. Again, if this is really a cultural thing,

667
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: though I don't know how to tell the family that

668
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: where I'm from, it's kind of inappropriate for a boy

669
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: so old to be sleeping next to me, especially when

670
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: he's been spying on me without causing issues. You know what, Op,

671
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: that's exactly what you just said is how you do that?

672
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Exactly what you just said verbatim is what you would

673
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: say to them.

674
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: You are aware of that, you are so aware, But like.

675
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm convinced, this is just a fear of you. You

676
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: don't you can't lose the income. You don't want to

677
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: get kicked out, and it's it's understandable, but again the

678
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: sounds like you know what to do. Of course, these

679
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: behaviors affect other aspects of our life as well, as

680
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: it's hard to get Dario to do anything because he

681
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: usually claims it's too hard to do, like making your

682
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: bed at thirteen? Is that too hard? Are you kidding me?

683
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: And I often find myself wanting to tell him to

684
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: grow up. What I need help with is knowing whether

685
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: he does need to grow up or if all this

686
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: behavior is normal here and I'm the crazy American that

687
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: just needs to adjust. Is this behavior normal for a

688
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: twelve year old or is it immature? I feel like

689
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: the parents still really see him as a young child,

690
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: and usually he acts like it. But for the most part,

691
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: it seems like he plays up the baby act because

692
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, it makes his parents cater to him more. Yeah,

693
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: and also there's clearly a huge failure on the parents here.

694
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: He's a pampered He seems like he gets in his way,

695
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: he stomps his feet, that's what he wants. He acts

696
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: like a Baby's a big he's a big baby boy.

697
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: If this is all abnormal, does anyone have any suggestions

698
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: about how to bring this up to the family, And

699
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: we do have an edit. Just want to clarify that

700
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: at the grandparents' house there are two beds and they

701
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: are next to each other. Dario was not in my bed,

702
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: but in the bed next to mine, which is still

703
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: creepy to it would have been in the same room

704
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: as a kid. Who are you were just like you

705
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: were just spying on me while I was unclosed.

706
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have.

707
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: It's like it would have been so much better if

708
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: it was the daughter.

709
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's just switch it up like that.

710
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: It's it's it's so much anyway, we have an update. Yeah,

711
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 2: in regards to the curtain issue. Like I said in

712
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: my last post, I had just hung a blanket for

713
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: privacy and since then there have been no peeping issues.

714
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: I asked two more times for curtains and was reassured

715
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: both times that the curtain man would come to hang

716
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: them in my room. He did come back once and

717
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: hung more curtains in the kid's room, but again not

718
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: in mine. Is the curtain man just a complete idiot? No,

719
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: I think the parents hung a double set of curtain.

720
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: There's already curtains in that room, but were you're just

721
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: putting more curtains over them.

722
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I need to double down on the curtains.

723
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's on the parents.

724
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: Then I was told that they didn't like him and

725
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: would be finding another curtain guy to hang my curtains,

726
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: which again, maybe they didn't like him because he's like.

727
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: There's four pairs of curtains in one room. Now, okay,

728
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't understand that.

729
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: There's a brief window. There's a little flicker of humor there.

730
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: To me, it's like the curt they keep hiring the

731
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: curtain guy. He's just putting curtains up in the same room,

732
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: not understanding.

733
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: They wanted the curtains in all four corners.

734
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: It's been four months, no more mention of it, and

735
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: I still use the blanket. The vacation issue, I have

736
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: simply refused to go on vacation with them. I'm off

737
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: on weekends, and I've reached a point where I just

738
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: refuse to be home for the entire weekend and manage

739
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: not to see them from Friday night until Monday morning.

740
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: If I can help it, I go on weekend trips,

741
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: crash on couches, sneak into my room when they're eating,

742
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: things like that, just to avoid seeing anyone on my

743
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: days off. And it sounds like you just need to

744
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: like find a different, oh pair situation.

745
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. If you're already tiptoeing around and you're like, oh,

746
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: any chance I can get out of this is great?

747
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: Is a relief? I yeah, when you're when you're literally

748
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: you know that you're not comfortable, Like you said, like

749
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: maybe it's like this is like the only thing that's like,

750
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: it's that that money situation because you're an all pair,

751
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: or talk to the agency, Talk to the agency, talk

752
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: to the agency. You signed through an agency. I feel

753
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: like a contract.

754
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any authority whatsoever. Go to

755
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: them and be like, I'm viscerally uncomfortable living here. Please

756
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: help me.

757
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Can I switch this happening?

758
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: Oh God, now we're just getting to the Dario issue.

759
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Dario still acts extremely immaturely. I've warmed up to him

760
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: a lot, and I figured out how to cut his

761
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: rudeness and such. He's become a lot more positive and kind,

762
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: especially because his mom has been gone a lot and

763
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: he's with me every day. I'm very upbeat and have

764
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: worked really hard to get him to socialize and speak kindly. Unfortunately,

765
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: he seems to have almost regress in terms of his

766
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: childish behavior. He still sits on laps, kisses a lot,

767
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: and sleeps with a parent when the other is gone.

768
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: The baby talk is constant. For example, he loves to

769
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: repeat back Butcher's of words, if that makes sense, Like

770
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: his dad will says, passamune jiao, cuciao, passamune cuciao.

771
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: We Italian. I'm not Italian, please, we're just reading it.

772
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: It's Italian for past mia spoon, and he will clap

773
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: and exclaim I'm not even gonna attempt to do baby

774
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: talking Italian because I don't speak it. But he's basically

775
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: just doing baby baby reactions. He's doing baby talk. He's

776
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: baby talking. He also has started eating kind of like

777
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: a baby too, Like he'll take the remaining tomato sauce

778
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: that we used on pasta and use the giant spoon

779
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: to drink it out of the pot and it'll get

780
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: all over his face and then he'll suck on each

781
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: of his fingers.

782
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,360
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784
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785
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the story. But when we look at

786
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: his parents, they're looking at him like when you see

787
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: a cute baby trying to use a fork and getting

788
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: food on his face. But he's thirteen. So it's honestly

789
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: sickening to watch and listen to. Yeah, this is bad.

790
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: This is a bad parent. And you know what, I'm

791
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: gonna assume that they are in an upper tax bracket. Uh,

792
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: just a straight assumption, But I feel like that is

793
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: an environment where this behavior is sort of I don't know,

794
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: they just sort of coddle and allow whatever happens.

795
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: That's her baby boy, that's a big baby boy.

796
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

797
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: I again, I don't know. Maybe I'm uncomfortable with the

798
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: entire situation. If I saw that, I wouldn't tell the

799
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: parents like, oh, you should change how you parent your

800
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: kid and do whatever you want.

801
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm out. Yeah, I'm out.

802
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: And for that, I'm.

803
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: Out, and for that, Sharks, I'm out.

804
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm out. God, that's just a very uncomfortable situation of

805
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: just like this is what you have to live with

806
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: and take care of, and it's just too much, too

807
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: much stress.

808
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: He won't lock the door when he goes to the

809
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: bathroom or showers, which is like what I started locking

810
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: the door when I was like seven. And he even

811
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: cried the other day when his sister sat on the

812
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: foot of his bed. He doesn't like things touching his bed.

813
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: And guess what parents got mad at. The daughter said

814
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: it was her fault for baiting him. She just had

815
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: to tie her shoe for a second and declared that

816
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: it's her fault. Dario will be upset all night. He

817
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: also hasn't made any progress with friends and has taken

818
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: to playing League of Legends, so he won't leave his

819
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: room or do any activities or lessons with me or

820
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: the sister is dario neurodivergent. I feel like that. That's now.

821
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 2: I was just like, wait a minute, okay.

822
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: Now it's the it's kind of adding. Yeah, I picked

823
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: that up with like that that contact.

824
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: Right there, nothing touching my bed. Melt down is like, okay,

825
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: this is the.

826
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: Parents are defending, and the parents are defending that. But

827
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 3: like now he should be upset all night.

828
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah so I mean so okay, that clicks a little

829
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: bit more now. Yes, so he's taken to playing League

830
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: of Legends, so he won't leave his room or do

831
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: any activities or lessons with me or the sister. It's

832
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: pretty sad, honestly. But by the way, I would never

833
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: find it sad for you to join us every weekday

834
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: at three pm PST when we go live on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch,

835
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 2: and TikTok. Just tap our profile and you're and you'll

836
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: join us.

837
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Heck, we might be even live right now, so go.

838
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: Check in a second right after this, because we got

839
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more story left. But I think that

840
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: the epiphany of it, I don't know it should it

841
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: should have even taken us that long. We should have realized,

842
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: we should have we should have suspected.

843
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: That I think, I mean this is we were.

844
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: We were caught up in OP being like it's is

845
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: this an Italian thing?

846
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: It's like no, we we It kind of flew over

847
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: our heads because I think OP is a unreliable narrator,

848
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: like yeah, exactly, like this should have been pertinent at

849
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: the very get go.

850
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: Also, I think this would have.

851
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: Been a part maybe on the papers or like the

852
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: documentation for oh pair. I don't know, I don't know

853
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: how it works, let us know.

854
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: It might even be undiagnosed.

855
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, But now it makes

856
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: a lot more sense.

857
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: Ye's a lot of those behaviors fit way.

858
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: More, especially how the parents are coddling him and all

859
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: that stuff.

860
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, where yeah, where it's like it's you'd expect something

861
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: you would expect at some point for there to be

862
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: like a like a correction made or like a little

863
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: bit of a course correct right, yes, but it's like

864
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: with the context of uh, you know this a neuro diversion,

865
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: like it just that makes sense and still we're still assuming.

866
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nobody's been stated, but.

867
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: It the only thing that checks the boxes. Where it's

868
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: like why are the parents sort of uh up this

869
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: behavior or not addressing it. And then really it all

870
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: came together with like the sister sat on his bed

871
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, meltdown. Yes, it's like.

872
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: Okay, but again this clearly this is the first child.

873
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: This is this is the oldest child.

874
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: They're babying him.

875
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: But again, for OP, hit me, just get out, Like

876
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: if you're not comfortable in any of this, it seems

877
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: like you're not and you're just like it's an American thing,

878
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: Like maybe I'm just an American mindset. No, just get out. Yeah,

879
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 3: Like I think you can transfer or go somewhere else,

880
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: especially if you're already getting into that mindset, like I

881
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: don't like it's only been what four for six months?

882
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: Four months, six months longer maybe a little bit longer.

883
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: We've had we had a couple of like and then

884
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: you know, dot dot dot it's four months, it's been

885
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: dot dot A couple months later, Okay, so three they

886
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: had three different curtains installed, So it's a lot of

887
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 2: time it's gone by.

888
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: Let's let's just say it's been a like a year

889
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: process and it's just it's progressively getting worse and worse.

890
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: For OP, and even if your friends are saying, like,

891
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: get out of there, get out of there.

892
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Let's see how this finishes off here. Basically, the hardest

893
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: part of this whole thing has been the mother. Oh

894
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: what a twist. I won't even go into it here,

895
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: but she's honestly clinically insane, and I feel so bad

896
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: for all the people in this house that have to

897
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: put up with her. She's just a power hungry, jealous,

898
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: bitter woman who needs to see a professional.

899
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: Where did this come from?

900
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: What a out of left field?

901
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: You literally called it an m night shamlang.

902
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why this sheesus the mom is why he's

903
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: afraid to talk obot it. Maybe maybe me and maybebe Basically,

904
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Speaker 2: I went home for Christmas to be with my friends

905
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: and family and realized how bad this experience was for

906
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: my health. I was going out drinking almost every night

907
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: to escape the house. I was sleeping horribly because I

908
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: knew she was here and her presence gave me awful anxiety.

909
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: I was getting yelled at every day even when I

910
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: did nothing wrong. I was at home in the States

911
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: and the thought of going back made me absolutely miserable.

912
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Speaker 2: So when I came back, I told them I needed

913
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Speaker 2: to go back early for medical reasons. She's not totally untrue,

914
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Speaker 2: and now I'm set to leave the last week of March,

915
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Speaker 2: they found a new girl. Look out for her post

916
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Speaker 2: here sometime in the future. That is the end of

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Speaker 5: My wife wants to cut off her friend because she's

921
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 5: more talented than her. Sounds like your wife's insecure jealousy.

922
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: I mail twenty eight. Knew her since college, and I'll

923
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 5: get that out of the way first. The past few

924
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 5: days have shown a different side of her. That's a

925
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: little surprising because Kate is her best friend from college.

926
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 5: My wife, Nancy wanted to do a mini talent show

927
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 5: at our reception, and she talked it up beforehand too.

928
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 5: She read a poem that she made for the event,

929
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: and Kate performed a song that she wrote. Long story short.

930
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Speaker 5: One of the guests who I invited is into producing,

931
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 5: and he reached out to her after she performed. They

932
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: exchanged information and Kate was really excited. He wanted to

933
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Speaker 5: network with her following the reception, and she even thanked

934
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Speaker 5: my wife for hosting the talent show over text. By

935
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: the way, this comes from throwaway a bit to full

936
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Speaker 5: one on the Okay storytime separate it, so Nancy became

937
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: really bitter about it, and that's why I'm writing this.

938
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Speaker 5: She hasn't responded to Kate's message, and she said she

939
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Speaker 5: regretted doing the talent show too. She also asked me

940
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Speaker 5: to block Edward the producer on my social slash contacts,

941
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: and I told her that seemed a bit much. She

942
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 5: didn't like my answer and said that I was wrong

943
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 5: to not take her side after just getting married, but

944
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 5: I told her that she should be happy for her friend.

945
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: She didn't like that either, and vented to some in

946
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 5: our friend group about how Kate was bragging, but some

947
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 5: of them disagree. She's so jealous. She said she didn't

948
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: want to hang out with them for the time being,

949
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: and that included me too. Two of her girlfriends even

950
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: texted me that she was overacting and that they were

951
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: also surprised to see her act that way. They also

952
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 5: asked if she was okay too. My dad is suggesting

953
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 5: counseling and said that asking me to remove friends is

954
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 5: an unhealthy way to start a marriage and is honestly

955
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 5: more than a little scared. I asked if she'd be

956
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: open to counseling, but she said there was no need

957
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: because Kate was her friend first and I shouldn't choose

958
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: Kate over her. I just want to ask what to

959
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: do next since she refused counseling and sees no issue

960
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 5: with cutting off our friends and edit, I want to

961
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: add that Nancy complained that her poem didn't get as

962
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 5: good of a reception as Kate's song. Kate didn't study

963
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 5: music in college, but practices on the side, and her

964
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 5: text was really thankful for the opportunity that the Talent

965
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Speaker 5: Show provided. Kate is also engaged to her longtime boyfriend

966
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: and there is an update, but pausing really quick. What

967
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: the Nancy just seems like a nightmare. I can't imagine

968
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: having a friend who was just so jealous of anything

969
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 5: that I did that they stop being friends with me,

970
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 5: and also told all of our friends to stop being

971
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 5: friends with me, also for a reason that's so silly,

972
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: so silly, like she got a job with a producer

973
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 5: and that's why you're upset, and also asking Ope to

974
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 5: not be friends with them too, And she's like oh, well,

975
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 5: she was my friend first. Honestly, I don't think that's

976
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: the main issue is that Opie doesn't get to be

977
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: friends with Kate. It's that Nancy is asking this at all. Yeah.

978
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: I feel like it'd be one thing if she did something.

979
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: Really wrong and then she's, you know, like, Okay, if

980
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 6: I tell my partner like this person's not cool, we're

981
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 6: like no longer friends with them.

982
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: But for this reason.

983
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Update one.

984
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 5: It's been a little over two weeks since my first post,

985
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 5: and I've had some time to try and process a

986
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 5: lot of it still feels surreal having known her since

987
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: my early twenties and the one eighty after the wedding.

988
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: I want to address a few things that were asked

989
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 5: in my first post before getting to the update. Nancy

990
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: and Kate were not the only ones who performed in

991
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 5: the talent show. During planning, Nancy said she wanted to

992
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: showcase her friends and how awesome slash proud she was

993
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 5: to have them. She also said it was a bonding

994
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: thing between her girlfriends from our friend group, and the

995
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: girls were the ones who performed. However, given her post

996
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: reception one eighty, it really surprised me in comparison to

997
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: her pre talent show mindset. A few people commented that

998
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 5: she didn't need to have a talent show to read

999
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: the poem she made for the wedding. She could have

1000
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: just read it at any time as the bride. Literally

1001
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: if she wanted to show up her poems, she didn't

1002
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 5: need to have the talent show. The reason I'm writing

1003
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 5: this post is because of something else that came up

1004
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: and led to a conversation. We had a vacation coming up,

1005
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 5: but she no longer wants to go on it. In

1006
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 5: the time since my first post, she continued to have

1007
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 5: random moodswings due to thinking about Kate. Sometimes that's venting

1008
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 5: about how Kate would happen nothing without her, or getting

1009
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: really quiet and distant even while eating. She's also still

1010
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,959
Speaker 5: upset at her girlfriends, who she vented to about Kate,

1011
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 5: but when they disagreed and called her out for being

1012
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: bitter over a talent show no one forced her to have.

1013
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 5: She told me to cut off our friend group along

1014
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: with block bocking the producer slash girlfriends too. When I disagreed,

1015
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: she became distant and said I was choosing them over her.

1016
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: My dad suggested counseling and talk to her again because

1017
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: asking me the cut off friends was an unhealthy start

1018
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 5: to the relationship, so I talked to her after my

1019
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: first post and asked if she'd be open to do it,

1020
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: but she said there was no need because all I

1021
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: had to do was cut them off. She also said

1022
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 5: I was choosing them over her and that she wouldn't

1023
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: go on her vacation until I did. When I asked

1024
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: her why Kate bothered her so much, she said she

1025
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 5: tried to publish in the past a novel and didn't

1026
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: get any hand me downs then. But when I reminded

1027
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 5: her that my friend was a producer on the side

1028
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: in his basement, she said I should have known better

1029
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 5: than to invite him, as if I should have known,

1030
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 5: he would have liked Kate's song. When I told her

1031
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 5: that I wouldn't block the producer slash entire friend group,

1032
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: she said I was entitled like Kate and that she

1033
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: wanted a break because I didn't care about her. I

1034
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 5: told her that I love her but didn't think it

1035
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 5: was healthy to cut off everyone. I also told her

1036
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 5: that she should be happy for her friend because Kate

1037
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 5: was really grateful, but she doesn't seem to care. She

1038
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 5: has since gone to stay with her parents and left

1039
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 5: some of her things in our apartment. I talked to

1040
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 5: my dad after she ignored text slash calls for a

1041
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 5: few days, and he suggested bringing up an annulment because

1042
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 5: it had gone too far. Wow, I mean, this is

1043
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 5: such a on. This is such a huge one.

1044
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: Ady.

1045
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeahgoby said, I've known her for years and this is

1046
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: seemingly she's never acted like this before. That's so weird.

1047
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's so interesting to think about

1048
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 6: people who have been in a relationship with people for

1049
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 6: a long time and then suddenly they just like changed.

1050
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1051
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to see bonus videos

1052
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: not on this page, search Okay story time clips on

1053
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Speaker 1: Facebook for more.

1054
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the story.

1055
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 5: Her parents have also ignored my calls. But I want

1056
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 5: to clarify Kate's text before I'm done. Kate wasn't arrogant

1057
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 5: or anything to Nancy. All she did was thank her

1058
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: for putting together the talent show that allowed her to

1059
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 5: network with the producer after the wedding, and she also

1060
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: offered to take her out to lunch's thanks. There was

1061
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: no arrogance from Kate, and the producer is also engaged,

1062
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 5: as some people inquired about that too. I'm just really

1063
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: surprised and hurt that her bitterness turned me into a

1064
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: bad guy for inviting my producer friend, as if I

1065
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: was supposed to see into the future and not invite

1066
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 5: him at it. Nancy got the idea to make a

1067
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 5: poem for the reception after watching the poet Amanda Gorman

1068
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: read her works at the inauguration and Super Bowl. She

1069
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 5: also said that it wasn't out of place for her

1070
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: to read at the reception when most people watching football

1071
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: aren't smart enough to appreciate poetry. Oh, there is an update,

1072
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 5: but she just seems really elitist in general, and I'm

1073
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: really wondering how there was no signs.

1074
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's just like very judgmental, and then obviously like

1075
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 6: she keeps calling all these other people entitled, but then

1076
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 6: she's just like cutting people off for being more talented

1077
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 6: than her left and right.

1078
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: Update two just wanted to come back to conclude this

1079
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: because it's been helpful to hear opinions and get everything out.

1080
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 5: A lot of people asked how I was in messages,

1081
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: and there were too many to reply to. We are

1082
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: currently in the process of a divorce. Wow, she's staying

1083
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 5: with her parents and I've had some time to process

1084
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 5: and see things differently. I want to touch on two

1085
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: things that's happened since my update. The first is a

1086
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 5: Facebook post she made about me and the guests. Not

1087
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: the Facebook post, it's always the face idea. In her post,

1088
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 5: she said she was supposed to win and that it

1089
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 5: was an unwritten rule for the bride to win, as

1090
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 5: if wedding talent shows are normal. She also accused them

1091
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: of smiting her on her day when no one knew

1092
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: about the show beforehand except her participating friends. She then

1093
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 5: accused me of taking Kate's side instead of comforting her

1094
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: as her new husband, but taking her sideman cutting off

1095
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 5: her friend group as she had in the aftermath. I

1096
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 5: don't know how her parents felt after she called that

1097
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: both sides of the guests, but I really don't care

1098
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 5: at this point. She also wanted me to cut off

1099
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 5: my producer friend Edward, who approached Kate after she sang

1100
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 5: her original song and asked if they wanted to collabse sometime,

1101
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 5: and I want to focus on that. I talked to

1102
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 5: Edward recently about everything, including how she wanted me to

1103
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 5: cut him off, and he couldn't believe how much it

1104
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: affected her. Nancy and I watched a football game at

1105
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 5: his house with him and his fiance some months back,

1106
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 5: and he has a day job in an office. When

1107
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 5: I told him about how Nancy was jealous of Kate's

1108
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: big break, he couldn't believe it and said that he

1109
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 5: planned to let Kate use his audio interface to plug

1110
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 5: into her guitar and record a high quality instrumental of

1111
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: her original along with his microphone too. That's time, I mean,

1112
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 5: that's what I was kind of thinking. I'm like, she

1113
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 5: keeps making this out to be like this huge break.

1114
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 6: Now she's going to be a famous dock.

1115
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 5: She's leaving us behind. It's like, no, he's probably just

1116
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 5: you know, as a small little studio studio. Yeah, let

1117
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: me let me add studio. So yeah, yeah, and she's

1118
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 5: getting upset over that. He also said he wasn't great

1119
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: at mixing and was taking online courses to learn, so

1120
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 5: he was going to suggest that she commissioned someone to

1121
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: mix slash enhance the files they'd record because he was

1122
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: far from a professional. He's a really chill guy, but

1123
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 5: he couldn't stop laughing over how Nancy thought that he

1124
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: was all that he only wanted to use his interface

1125
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: to give her a high quality recording after learning that

1126
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: she didn't have equipment and recorded her original on her phone.

1127
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 5: He enes fiance planned to have her for dinner, just

1128
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 5: like they had me and Nancy over for football, and

1129
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 5: recorded in the basement afterwards. Looking back in hindsight, it's

1130
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: crazy how you can be blinded to things. But I

1131
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: never imagined just how crazy she could get. I didn't

1132
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 5: say this in my first two posts because I thought

1133
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: it might overshadow her actions, but she sometimes posts about

1134
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 5: women empowerment on her socials, and I recently thought about

1135
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 5: that for one reason. When I asked her why she

1136
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 5: wanted to have a talent show, she said she wanted

1137
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: to emphasize the importance of having good friends because they

1138
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 5: were important to a relationship. But as I look at

1139
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 5: it now, perhaps it was never about that. Nancy was

1140
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 5: bothered the second that Kate's song got a better reception

1141
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 5: than her, and she doubled down when she vented to

1142
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 5: two of her girlfriends after the wedding, who called her

1143
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 5: out for being jealous, and that made her demand. I

1144
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: also caught off our friend group to everyone who asked

1145
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: what her poem was about. It was about women empowerment

1146
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 5: and the importance of having good friends and family when

1147
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: starting a family, and she told me the premise beforehand,

1148
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 5: although she never showed me the poem. How I run ironic?

1149
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: How ironic?

1150
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 5: Interesting? Maybe you should read your poem again, doing a

1151
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: little analysis of it. She wanted it to be a surprise,

1152
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 5: but I never had a chance to see it on

1153
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 5: paper after the wedding for reasons. Many people also corrected

1154
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: how she said that Kate received a hand me down

1155
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 5: opportunity at the wedding, but the proper term was hand out,

1156
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: As many corrected. I really appreciate everyone who offered advice

1157
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 5: as it helped a lot mentally, not to mention looking

1158
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 5: back at how crazy it all was. I was hoping

1159
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 5: to fully get over it as time goes on, but

1160
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: I've gotten over some of it recently. And there is

1161
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 5: another update. Oh do you have the other thoughts Before

1162
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: we get into the update, I'm.

1163
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 6: Just again like flabbergasted at how people are like not

1164
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 6: making any common sense.

1165
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: No, I mean the fact that it like she took

1166
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 5: a random guy, letting her best friend record in a

1167
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 5: studio and took that so far and that she's now

1168
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 5: getting a divorce, like, was it really worth it?

1169
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: Was that?

1170
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: Really? Is that really the hill that you're gonna die on?

1171
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 5: I really thought my last update would be my last,

1172
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 5: but Nancy apparently had other ideas. This update doesn't really

1173
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: and is mostly for those who have reached out via

1174
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 5: DMS because I can't reply to all of them, so

1175
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 5: this is more convenient. Months later, I'm grateful that everything

1176
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 5: came out when it did and we are officially no

1177
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: longer together. She wanted nothing to do with me after

1178
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 5: accusing me of taking Kate's side by refusing to caught

1179
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 5: off friends, who she said overreacted when she vented about

1180
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 5: Kate stealing her thunder by getting a better reception for

1181
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 5: a song, among other hateful things she said about her,

1182
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: and that made the process easier. However, months later, Nancy's

1183
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: still not over it. But I want to give an

1184
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 5: update on Kate first. Kate reached out to me towards

1185
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: the end of the divorce process because Nancy took out

1186
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: her frustration on her, and she told me some things

1187
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 5: I didn't know I mentioned in my first update that

1188
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 5: Kate sent a text thanking Nancy for the opportunity to

1189
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 5: sing at the wedding after it led to her meeting

1190
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 5: the producer, and she said it shortly after the reception. However,

1191
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 5: unbeknownst to me, Nancy sent her DMS blaming her for

1192
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 5: the divorce before it was official, and that was news

1193
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: to me. She told me she was sorry for performing

1194
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 5: at the wedding along with the divorce, but I told

1195
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: that she had nothing to apologize for. Her best friend,

1196
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 5: Nancy asked her to perform and she simply did. But

1197
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: Nancy didn't stop at DMS. Since my last update and

1198
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: the divorce becoming official, Nancy went online to make her

1199
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 5: feelings public, not just about Kate, but the friends who

1200
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: said she was overacting too. She said that her friends

1201
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 5: should have talked her out of the talent show because

1202
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: friends look after each other, when the talent show was

1203
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 5: her idea entirely that she pushed for against suggestions otherwise.

1204
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 5: She accused them of being fake friends who never had

1205
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 5: her back and sided with Kate over her, and she

1206
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 5: had the nerve to tag them too. However, she left

1207
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 5: the worst for Kate. She accused Kate and her friends

1208
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 5: of setting her up on her day, and she made

1209
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 5: a separate Facebook post to rant about Kate. She also

1210
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 5: called her a bee, among other things. But she also

1211
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 5: disclosed some mental health challenges and medications from Kate's past,

1212
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 5: and it was petty and very inappropriate. I want to

1213
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: reiterate that Kate was her best friend long before me.

1214
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 5: But she also disclosed a very personal event that I

1215
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 5: never knew about from Kate's life, which was wrong, and

1216
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 5: it led to people finding out that Kate hadn't told

1217
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 5: and caused her a lot of stress from what I've heard, Uh,

1218
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: why would you go online and share? I mean, even

1219
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 5: if you don't like that person? Yeah, messed up. Not

1220
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 5: a good person. Some of the people in Nancy's friend

1221
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 5: group reached out to me before the divorce too, and

1222
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: one of them will call Hannah, who knew Nancy before

1223
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 5: me too, said that she knew about Nancy's struggle to

1224
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 5: publish as she vented years back after I told her

1225
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: about my talk with Nancy where she brought up her

1226
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: publishing struggles, and she said that many of them tried

1227
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 5: to encourage her. However, she never saw that jealous side

1228
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 5: of her despite knowing her for much longer, and she

1229
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 5: thinks it was the culmination of wedding stress, among other things,

1230
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 5: but she didn't want to chalk it up to just

1231
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 5: that because she said that that was a deeper insecurity.

1232
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 5: I mean, it could be wedding stress, but at certain

1233
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: points it's like that's just who they are. Yeah. She

1234
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 5: also told me not to beat myself up too much

1235
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 5: because her friend group never saw that side of her too,

1236
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 5: and they knew her for years before me. Nancy's friend

1237
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 5: group has since cut her off. But the last thing

1238
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 5: I'll say is on Kate by the way. Last last

1239
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 5: thing I'll say is that you can join us live

1240
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 5: every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook, on

1241
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 5: TikTok just tap her profile. Final thoughts. Final thoughts is

1242
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 5: what does hope.

1243
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 2: You do here?

1244
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I think keep your divorce, keep your divorce,

1245
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 5: marry Kate, she's much more talented than Nancy.

1246
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: And then have her sing at the wedding. Yes, and

1247
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 6: then post end a video and post it.

1248
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: Kate and her friends have been really supportive and even

1249
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 5: apologized for not talking her out of the talent show beforehand,

1250
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 5: But I told them that they had nothing to apologize

1251
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 5: for because Nancy accused me of inviting my producer friend

1252
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,479
Speaker 5: and not magically knowing that he would have networked with Kate.

1253
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 5: Hannah said that Kate's been really heard about the sensitive

1254
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 5: posts and having to explain to people she never told.

1255
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 5: She also said that Kate's thinking of trying to go

1256
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 5: after Nancy legally, but she's not sure if anything can

1257
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 5: be done since it was on Facebook, although she got screenshots,

1258
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 5: but it's apparently taken a toll on her mental health

1259
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 5: to the point that she's trying to see her options.

1260
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 5: I won't come back to this again because it doesn't

1261
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: really involve me at this point, but I'm trying my

1262
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 5: best to be supportive of her two because she didn't

1263
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 5: deserve any of this. But I hope it all works

1264
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 5: out for her in time, whether she decides to pursue

1265
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 5: legally or not. And that is the end of that story. Wow,

1266
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 5: it really crumbled insane, Nancy. You need help.

1267
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go host a talent show. See how my

1268
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 6: boyfriend react is.

1269
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 5: I guess it's the tester. This is the test to

1270
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 5: see how your partner reacts.

1271
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: Ye how they do.

1272
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 5: But there is another story, so we'll see you next time.

1273
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: John here og host We're gonna get back to these stories,

1274
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break from ass for our sponsors.

1275
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 6: My ex's new wife is trying to steal my daughter.

1276
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 6: Now she's calling herself my daughter's mother.

1277
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 5: Rest her.

1278
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 6: I twenty seven female and my ex twenty six. We

1279
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 6: have a six year old daughter together whoa Things weren't

1280
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 6: working for us, so we broke up last year and

1281
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 6: decided to co parent. We both have custody. By the way,

1282
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 6: this comes from you optimal Dash hosts Dash four three

1283
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 6: zero six the r okay storytime subreddit. He got married

1284
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 6: a few months back. I don't have any hard feelings

1285
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 6: or anything for him or his wife.

1286
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 5: He is a grave father.

1287
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 6: But his wife she's going around saying not only she

1288
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 6: became a wife, but she got a bonus daughter too.

1289
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 6: Last week, my daughter was with her father and I

1290
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: saw his wats up status a video. She was asking

1291
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 6: my daughter to call her mom and saying how she

1292
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 6: just looks like her, how people think she is her

1293
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: birth mother.

1294
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 5: Without second thought, I called my daughter's father. I was mad.

1295
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 6: I had a fight with him and asked him to

1296
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 6: draw my daughter back to me. And I don't regret it.

1297
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 6: But everyone is saying I'm overreacting.

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Speaker 5: Like a little bit. But also I understand. I guess

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Speaker 5: it's just i'd be kind of annoyed. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: unless the daughter is really uncomfortable.

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Speaker 6: I feel like maybe that's a conversation that the stepmom

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Speaker 6: should have had with the bio mom.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, okay, is it okay? Like if I do this

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Speaker 5: and stuff? Yeah, because it is like a it is

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Speaker 5: a lot of an overstep.

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Speaker 6: I mean like, I'm sure after like a long period

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Speaker 6: of time, yes, it makes it develops.

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Speaker 5: But like a six year old and you just got here. Okay,

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Speaker 5: maybe I am.

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Speaker 6: But I can't see my daughter calling someone else her mom.

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Speaker 6: Edit one, She and my daughter don't look alike. She

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Speaker 6: was asking my daughter to call her mom when my

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Speaker 6: child wasn't comfortable.

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Speaker 5: You see, that's exactly the thing. If the daughter's not comfortable,

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Speaker 5: then you can't say it's overstepping. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I don't hate her, and I don't wish my child

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Speaker 6: to hate her too. I wish them to have a

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Speaker 6: friendly relation where they can trust each other and be

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Speaker 6: comfortable in each other's presence. That's valid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, edit too.

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Speaker 6: Thank you everyone for your response. It means a lot,

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Speaker 6: genuinely I appreciate it. I had a talk with my daughter.

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Speaker 6: Once I have a talk with my daughter's father, I

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Speaker 6: will update you guys.

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Speaker 5: Looks like we have.

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Speaker 6: Some comments so top comments from nien Nitz Bonus. Daughter

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Speaker 6: is fine. I agree asking her to call her mom isn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: help your daughter find a couple of unique nicknames for

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Speaker 6: a stepmother that no one else uses.

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Speaker 5: That's a good solution, I think so. Yeah. Like it's

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Speaker 5: still creates a relationship with a stepmom, but it's Mamma.

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Speaker 6: Barely awake twenty twenty three. She's insane if she thinks

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Speaker 6: that's even remotely appropriate. I have a stepson and couldn't

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Speaker 6: even imagine asking him to call me mom, especially when

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Speaker 6: his mom is, you know, a wonderful and involved mom.

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Speaker 6: My husband wouldn't stand for it either, because we all

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Speaker 6: have a good relationship and even though they didn't work out,

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Speaker 6: he still has respect for her as his son's mother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as he should have. Period. No, I think the

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Speaker 5: asking y is pretty is huge Oaks absolutely update.

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Speaker 6: I made a post recently about how my ex's new

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Speaker 6: wife asked my daughter to call her mom. First of all,

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Speaker 6: I'm just genuinely thankful to you guys, I thought I

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Speaker 6: was just overreacting and it was going to leave the

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Speaker 6: matter without doing anything. I had a talk with my

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Speaker 6: six year old, and I'm shaking right now. I don't

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Speaker 6: know my daughter thought I was going to abandon her.

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Speaker 6: Can you believe what I was? Dumbstruck. I felt like

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Speaker 6: I have lost everything in my life. My lovely daughter,

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Speaker 6: light of my life, thinks I'm.

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Speaker 5: Going to leave her.

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Speaker 6: I asked her why she thinks like that, but she

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Speaker 6: was adamant on not telling me. After luring her, I

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01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 6: came to know her stepmother told her that when I

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Speaker 6: will get a new husband, I will leave her and

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Speaker 6: make a new family. That woman, she even said it's

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Speaker 6: only her father who will be with her till the end.

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Speaker 6: Is she insane? I told my daughter that I don't

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Speaker 6: have any plans of getting married again, and even if

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Speaker 6: there's something like that, I would never leave her. She's

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Speaker 6: gonna always be my daughter. Truthfully speaking, my daughter still

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Speaker 6: is hesitant. She still thinks I will leave her. I've

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Speaker 6: taken a week off me and my daughter. We are

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Speaker 6: spending it together with my parents. After the little vacation,

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Speaker 6: I'm getting a counselor for her.

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Speaker 5: That is really just so messed up. Yeah, no, no

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Speaker 5: of a reaction here. It seems like you just reacted.

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01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 5: You were really on top of it. Yeah, it's not good.

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Speaker 5: And then you were right by the way.

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Speaker 1: If you want to see bonus videos not on this page,

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Speaker 2: On Facebook for more. Okay, back to the story.

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Speaker 5: I had to talk with my lawyer.

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Speaker 6: He said, we got evidence and everything. He can help

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Speaker 6: me get full custody of my child. I have no

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Speaker 6: intention of dragging my ex to court again, but if

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Speaker 6: there's another incident like this, I won't hesitate After this.

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Speaker 6: I had a talk with my ex alone. I told

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Speaker 6: him everything about how our daughter feels, how his wife

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Speaker 6: doesn't know her boundaries, how he would feel if I

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Speaker 6: asked my daughter to call a random man dad. He

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Speaker 6: said he had no idea things would turn like this.

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Speaker 6: He only left them alone with the purpose to bond.

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's lying. I told him clearly that

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Speaker 6: I won't let that woman anywhere near my daughter, and

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Speaker 6: if he is against it, we can just go to court.

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Speaker 6: For now, we have decided that he can meet her

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Speaker 6: daughter at his parents' house, and after some time, if

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Speaker 6: my daughter agrees, he can take my daughter.

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Speaker 5: To his home.

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Speaker 6: It's his responsibility to not let my kid alone with

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Speaker 6: that woman.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like all of that is fair. I

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Speaker 5: think that's just making her daughter uncomfortable. I honestly, Unless

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Speaker 5: we read more and this ex proves to be kind

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Speaker 5: of a crazy person, it's I kind of believe that

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Speaker 5: he didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know about it.

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Speaker 5: I think so too. I mean, I honestly, which is

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Speaker 5: another problem, because I think he just probably doesn't know

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Speaker 5: this woman right well, like he's been with her like

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Speaker 5: a year. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I had a talk with that woman too. She just

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 6: started crying and putting all blame on me, saying I'm

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Speaker 6: jealous of her having my husband. Why would I be

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 6: jealous of someone having my ex. I don't have any

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Speaker 6: energy to waste on her petty dramas about that woman.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why she's doing all this. I gave

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Speaker 6: it a lot of thought and only came up with this.

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Speaker 6: Apparently my exit in laws are against this wedding, so

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Speaker 6: maybe she wants to get on their good side through

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Speaker 6: my daughter.

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Speaker 5: Or she's crazy.

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Speaker 6: By the way, you can join us live on YouTube

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Speaker 6: and Facebook every weekday at three pm PST, and we're

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Speaker 6: probably live right now, so tap our profile. Rob it

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Speaker 6: there's another relevant update. But let's discuss.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I have the same thoughts

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Speaker 5: just before. Don't let her near your daughter. I don't

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Speaker 5: think you necessarily have to go right into a custody battle.

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Speaker 5: I think it's just if this continues to happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and your ex doesn't, you know, listen to your concerns,

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Speaker 5: then it's like, okay, well now we have to go

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Speaker 5: to court for this. Yeah. I think hopefully he'll listen.

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Speaker 6: Isn't fortunate though, like this poor kid. I just want

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Speaker 6: to make things right for my daughter. I even came

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Speaker 6: to know that my child thinks she's the reason for

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Speaker 6: our divorce. No, and many of you guys said he

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Speaker 6: X got married within year. Maybe he was cheating O. Yes,

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Speaker 6: he was cheating. Oh. I came to know about it recently,

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Speaker 6: and truthfully speaking, I don't even want to confront him

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Speaker 6: for this. I just want to leave him peacefully without

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Speaker 6: much drama in my life. Maybe someday I will ask

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Speaker 6: him get the answers I'm looking for, but right now

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Speaker 6: I just want to focus on myself and my daughter.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 6: I'm really thankful to you guys. I never thought my

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Speaker 6: daughter would think something like this. If it wasn't for you, guys,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I would ever come to know.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, what a she really threw in that

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Speaker 5: little back way, guys, cheer. That sucks.

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Speaker 6: Oh and she's a mom snatch.

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Speaker 5: She's she's trying to steal my kid. And she also

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Speaker 5: stole my boyfriends. And that's the end of our story.

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Speaker 5: But there is another one, so we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 5: My coworker accused my husband of grooming me, so I

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Speaker 5: reported her to HR Bad Go Work.

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Speaker 6: That's a really bad accusation.

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Speaker 5: I thirty, have been with my husband forty for six years,

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Speaker 5: and we've been married for two. Recently, we got a

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Speaker 5: new coworker, let's call her Sarah, who seems really keen

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Speaker 5: on helping others. By the way, this comes from lace

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Speaker 5: forty one to fifty one on the Okay Storytime subrid it.

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Speaker 5: During lunch one day, Sarah and I were talking about

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Speaker 5: relationships and she asked about my marriage. I told her

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Speaker 5: how long we've been together, and she got this serious

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Speaker 5: look on her face. She said something like, you know

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Speaker 5: that h difference is a bit concerning. Are you sure?

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Speaker 2: He didn't groom you.

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Speaker 5: I was completely caught off guard. My husband and I

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Speaker 5: have a perfectly healthy relationship, and honestly, I intentionally sought

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Speaker 5: out someone older because I like the stability and experience

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Speaker 5: that comes with it. The idea of him grooming me

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Speaker 5: just seems so absurd that I couldn't help it. I

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Speaker 5: burst out laughing. I didn't tend to be rude, but

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Speaker 5: it was just so ridiculous to me. Sarah mumbled something

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Speaker 5: I didn't care to hear and left the conversation soon after.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was over, but later I found out

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Speaker 5: that she's been talking behind my back, telling the other

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Speaker 5: coworkers that I was rude for laughing at her and

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Speaker 5: that she was just trying to help. But what really

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Speaker 5: got me was that she's been telling people to avoid

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Speaker 5: my creepy husband at an upcoming work party, as if

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Speaker 5: he's some kind of predator. Now I'm starting to feel

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01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 5: a bit guilty for how I reacted, but also kind

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Speaker 5: of furious that she's bad mouthing my husband, who she's

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Speaker 5: never met. So am I the a hole for laughing

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Speaker 5: when she suggested my husband groom me? And there is

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Speaker 5: an update?

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Speaker 6: Also, like what an absurd thing to say to somebody

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Speaker 6: that you barely know, they really know. I think your

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Speaker 6: husband groomed you, like at work to take me to

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Speaker 6: lunch dinner, first such dinner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like that's a lot. That's crazy. Updates after my

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Speaker 5: last post, things got worse with Sarah. She wouldn't stop

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Speaker 5: making comments about my relationship, always bringing up how concerning

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Speaker 5: the age difference was, or making vague comments about grooming

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Speaker 5: and power dynamics. At first, people politely listened, but after

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Speaker 5: a while she repeated it so often that people started

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 5: to get annoyed. Even those who didn't know the full

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Speaker 5: story could tell she was going overboard, as basically everyone suggested.

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Speaker 5: I decided to email HR to address the situation, but

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Speaker 5: I made it clear that I didn't want her to

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Speaker 5: get in trouble, just wanted to resolve things and move on.

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01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 5: HR was well HR, and they begrudgingly set up an

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Speaker 5: informal meeting with both of us present. During the meeting,

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Speaker 5: I explained to how her comments were bothering me and

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Speaker 5: that I felt they were inappropriate. Sarah's defense was odd.

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Speaker 5: She started by saying she was just looking out for

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Speaker 5: me and couldn't stand by and watch something bad happen.

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 5: But then she got defensive, saying things like, you just

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 5: don't know what it's like to be manipulated, and I've

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 5: seen situations like this go bad. She was basically implying

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Speaker 5: that she was some sort of expert on relationships like

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01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 5: mine without actually knowing anything about it. At first, I

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 5: thought maybe she had experienced something like this and felt

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 5: some sympathy, But honestly, I hate making assumptions about people's past,

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: and due to her constant talking, I assumed it would

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01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 5: have come out if it was actually the case. At

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Speaker 5: that point, I asked her, Sarah, how old do you

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01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 5: think I am? She looked a bit flustered and hesitated

1512
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 5: before saying I'm like twenty four, twenty five bruh, which

1513
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 5: made no sense because I clearly look my age. I

1514
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 5: had to hold back my laughter again when I told

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 5: her I was thirty, her face turned bright red and

1516
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 5: she didn't know what to say. The room got pretty

1517
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 5: awkward after that. HR stepped in and gently reminded Sarah

1518
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 5: that while it's okay to care about coworkers, constantly making

1519
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 5: unsolicited comments and spreading rumors wasn't appropriate. Sarah didn't say

1520
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 5: much after that, and seemed pretty uncomfortable. She apologized, though

1521
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 5: it felt half hearted. Since the meeting, she stopped making

1522
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 5: comments about my husband. But things between us have been

1523
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 5: pretty awkward. Yeah. I don't imagine they'll ever not be awkward. Yeah,

1524
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 5: that's really bad.

1525
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to see bonus videos

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: not on this page, search Okay storytime clips.

1527
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: On Facebook for more. Okay, back to the story.

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Speaker 5: At least the issue is resolved, and I'm happy HR

1529
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 5: handled it without escalating further. And some of Opie's comments

1530
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 5: Commeder says, are you sure you're not getting room though?

1531
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 5: Like really sure? Like really really sure? Sarcasm, they're consulting

1532
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 5: a joke. Opie says, only mildly sure. Now, who knows

1533
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 5: As a twenty four year old, I was a child

1534
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 5: A sarcastic as well. Commenter says, I think she may

1535
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 5: have been projecting. I know victims of grooming and other

1536
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 5: stuff who project when there is nothing wrong. They go

1537
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 5: overboard like her. It's awful what happened to them. But

1538
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: the Sarah's of the world don't have the right to

1539
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 5: try to mess up others relationships. Opie says, I never

1540
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 5: thought she'd affect my relationship. My husband helped me write

1541
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 5: the first post and was also just as annoyed as me. However,

1542
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 5: he did call me the child we like the Mandalorian

1543
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 5: for a few days and gave a few apologies for

1544
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 5: allowing me to seek him out. And commenter says, maybe

1545
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 5: after the meeting she learns something we can only help.

1546
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 5: Don't judge a book by its cover, or just learn

1547
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 5: to hold your tongue, and Opie said, I hope she did,

1548
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 5: as I said in my last post. Comments she's a

1549
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 5: good worker, but while I involved HR this time, I

1550
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 5: will fire her if this happens again. She can say

1551
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 5: whatever she wants about me, but my husband is off limits.

1552
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: Commenter says, you handle the entire situation with so much

1553
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 5: more grace than I'd have done. Sarah's hopefully learned a lesson,

1554
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 5: and this whole interaction with HR might prevent her doing

1555
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 5: it to other people in the future. Opie says, my

1556
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 5: first thought, honestly was to go scorched Earth, but I

1557
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 5: realized that wouldn't help anything. It was purely optics. The

1558
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: way I went about it. I wanted to come off

1559
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 5: as lace four one five to one. OPI doesn't tolerate

1560
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 5: slander towards his husband, but he also is willing to

1561
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 5: find a way to move forward. And moving forward, we

1562
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 5: would love you guys to join us live every week

1563
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 5: to at three PMPSD on YouTube, Facebook, and TikTok. Just

1564
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 5: tap a profile. There is a little bit left to

1565
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 5: this story, but any closing thoughts.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give the person the benefit of the doubt

1567
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 6: that you know, they thought this girl was way younger. Yeah,

1568
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 6: and they're concerned by this age gap.

1569
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 5: Like I get it.

1570
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,480
Speaker 6: I've seen people in like really big age gap relationships

1571
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 6: and sometimes I also think, like going on here, Yeah,

1572
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 6: but it's like this is someone you don't know.

1573
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 5: That well you don't know you also didn't know their age.

1574
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 5: You just kind of assumed. Commons just says, wow, I'm

1575
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 5: fully with you on this. But the hypocrisy on the

1576
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: sub is astounding. Normally, in every post where there's a

1577
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 5: ten year plus age gap and the girl was under

1578
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 5: twenty five or the difference was smaller, but the younger

1579
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 5: one was nineteen when the older one was twenty four

1580
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 5: to twenty five, ninety nine point ninety nine percent of comments,

1581
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 5: even if the question had nothing to do with the

1582
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 5: age gap. Are people saying how the older person is sick,

1583
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: a groomer, a predator, or how he just wanted so

1584
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 5: when young enough to manipulate and now here. All of

1585
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 5: a sudden, people are outraged that someone in real life

1586
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 5: has done what they normally all do hidden behind screens.

1587
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 5: I hope some of them will learn from your story

1588
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 5: that it's not okay to just accuse people they don't

1589
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 5: know of being bad people. Opie says, Honestly, I agree.

1590
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 5: I was actually expecting people to agree with Sarah. It

1591
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 5: did help me though that I was the one who

1592
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 5: pursued him on a dating app and not the other

1593
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 5: way around. And that is the end of that story

1594
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 5: and also the end of this episode. But do you

1595
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 5: have any closing closing thoughts? Don't don't assume, don't assume?

1596
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 5: Don't you you.

1597
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 6: Believe in with curiosity before you accuse someone.

1598
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 5: And that's the moral of this story.

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Speaker 2: Yes,