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Speaker 3: By the way, Dylan, I believe is the only one
Speaker 3: in the building who got dressed up. Todd was flirting
Speaker 3: with getting dressed up.
Speaker 5: I've had a little something. I meant to put it
Speaker 5: off before the show started. It's not a whole outfit
Speaker 5: or anything. It's something basic, but I'll work in it.
Speaker 3: But how did you forget to get dressed up.
Speaker 5: Because I have it in the bag behind me, and
Speaker 5: I meant to have it for the very start of
Speaker 5: the show. It's something that's a facial item. But I
Speaker 5: can put it on an hour. I could Chuck prefer no.
Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, yeah, put it on. Let me see
Speaker 2: what you got here. Yes, Marvin, I'm going to snitch.
Speaker 6: Early this morning, Fritzie was in the back room trying
Speaker 6: out his poll questions in a stand up routine on
Speaker 6: the brg's Today.
Speaker 3: All the backroom guys, they all said, oh, okay, so are
Speaker 3: you Jason from Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Jason Wori's Friday the thirteenth. It's very simple
Speaker 5: hockey mask thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, my wife thought I was Hannibal.
Speaker 5: Lecter for some reason, so like that's kind of disappointed
Speaker 5: me that you didn't get to who I was.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll keep.
Speaker 5: This on until I feel like, you know, I'm starting
Speaker 5: to not be able to breathe it and have one
Speaker 5: of those Milwaukee situations that I'll take it off.
Speaker 3: I'm shocked that you have something that could make you
Speaker 3: clust your folko.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this won't be very long because I'm already done,
Speaker 5: like the oxygen's not getting through the holes.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm glad that you got dressed up. Nobody
Speaker 3: else did. But that's okay.
Speaker 5: This corct's not supposed to talk, which I know you
Speaker 5: would all love if I just could not say anything the.
Speaker 2: Whole It's not possible today.
Speaker 3: I've been warned by a couple of the back room
Speaker 3: guys that look out. Mario, who's the director, said good luck,
Speaker 3: good luck with Todd. It's a Friday fritzy, but it's
Speaker 3: a Halloween Friday fritzy, and and I welcome it with
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Speaker 2: Okay, Todd, Halloween related pole questions? Do you have on
Speaker 2: the spot? You have Halloween pole questions? I jotted out
Speaker 2: a couple of things.
Speaker 7: If you can hear me, we can are.
Speaker 3: You handling the pole questions or seating this?
Speaker 5: But this is just a hollered couple of Halloween ones.
Speaker 5: If we want to do that or we can not
Speaker 5: do it, that's up to you guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can do the poll questions.
Speaker 8: When do you buy your Halloween candy a week before,
Speaker 8: a few days before that day? Never, I don't answer
Speaker 8: the door for trick or treat as I pretend I'm
Speaker 8: not home one of those families. Okay, when buying Halloween candy,
Speaker 8: to what extent do you take into a camp peanut
Speaker 8: allergies or a choking hazard? Very much a passing thought.
Speaker 8: I don't I get what I like so I can consume.
Speaker 2: The leftover treats.
Speaker 5: It's a little insensitive.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Scariest movie character Carrie Carrie Wife from the movie Carrie,
Speaker 8: Chucky from Child's Play, Damien Thorn from The Omen, Freddy
Speaker 8: krue gir At Nightmare of elm Street, Hand of Bleck
Speaker 8: through the Silence of the Lambs, Jack Tarrance from The Shining,
Speaker 8: Jason Vori's Friday the Thirteenth, Leather Face, Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
Speaker 8: Michael Myers from Halloween, Penny Wise's Hit.
Speaker 2: The Clown or other. Okay, and I had a few others.
Speaker 2: If you have time, Well, take off your mask.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's starting to annoy me.
Speaker 5: Are you getting scared?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 5: Very What do you think of people who just leave
Speaker 5: candy out in front of their door saying please just
Speaker 5: take one or two?
Speaker 2: That's just playing lazy the honor system with kids in candy?
Speaker 2: Are you stupid or something?
Speaker 5: Or it's refreshing to see such trust in today's youth.
Speaker 3: Seeton, You got any pull questions today?
Speaker 10: I do?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 11: Let's say the Dolphins need a new coach, a new quarterback,
Speaker 11: a new coach and a new quarterback or a fresh start.
Speaker 3: Well, this is what we were talking about before the
Speaker 3: show started. If you're the Dolphins, and you're the Dolphins ownership,
Speaker 3: do you start to sell off pieces even though you
Speaker 3: still have two under contract? Don't know if Tyreek Hill's
Speaker 3: going to play again? Are you going to get rid
Speaker 3: of your best receiver in Jalen Watta? You're going to
Speaker 3: get rid of your edge rushers? Is this a complete
Speaker 3: rebuild with a guy who's making fifty four million dollars?
Speaker 3: I don't know what the upside is if if I'm
Speaker 3: a coaching candidate and you're going to try to entice
Speaker 3: me to go to the Dolphins, you're not enticing me
Speaker 3: by getting rid of your best receiver and or some
Speaker 3: of your edge rushers, because the Dolphins do have talent.
Speaker 3: And that was a game. For at least one half.
Speaker 3: After that, it just felt like the Dolphins were sitting
Speaker 3: around going, eh, Lamar's pretty good. When's this game over?
Speaker 3: It just felt like, let's put a stamp on it
Speaker 3: and mail it in. But I can't see taking the
Speaker 3: wrecking ball and saying we're going to rebuild because you
Speaker 3: can't get rid of Tua for at least another year.
Speaker 3: And if you're going to fire Mike McDaniel and you're
Speaker 3: going to bring me in, I'd be like, man, this
Speaker 3: looks pretty pretty sparse. What else do you have seton?
Speaker 11: Let's see, we also have Lamar Jackson running less. Is
Speaker 11: a good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 3: Well, we were looking at the numbers here. I think
Speaker 3: it's a good thing because I think he's a better
Speaker 3: passer than people give him credit for. If you look
Speaker 3: at quarterbacks rushing attempts, Jayden Daniels has he averages over
Speaker 3: eight carries a game justin fields seven and a half.
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts a little over seven, Josh Allen seven, Drake
Speaker 3: May a little over six, Jackson Dart six, Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: under six, Patrick Mahomes just under six. In fact, Kyler
Speaker 3: Murray patrick Mahomes averaged the same number of carries five
Speaker 3: point eight yards. Lamar Jackson is down to five point
Speaker 3: two carries, Caleb Williams at five and Bo Knicks at
Speaker 3: four point nine. He is running less and I think
Speaker 3: given the injuries here and certainly this hamstring, I think
Speaker 3: these numbers are going to be lower the second half
Speaker 3: of the season for him.
Speaker 2: But he's he's.
Speaker 3: Finally being given credit for being a better passer. He
Speaker 3: loves his tight ends. You know, that's usually as go
Speaker 3: to guys, and I think he had three touchdown passes
Speaker 3: to tight ends last night. It's a different offense obviously
Speaker 3: with him in there. I don't think it's as explosive
Speaker 3: because I don't know if you can rely on him
Speaker 3: to be that kind of quarterback at least this year.
Speaker 3: But passing wise, he's he was great last night, four
Speaker 3: touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: What else do we have?
Speaker 3: Got one here? From Paul?
Speaker 11: Which team's situation feels the most helpless? Brown's Dolphins, Jets, Saints, Titans.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, take your pick.
Speaker 11: Well, let's see, I wouldn't say the Dolphins for the
Speaker 11: reasons you just said. They have a lot of talent
Speaker 11: on that team. It's just not working. They obviously need
Speaker 11: to restructure a couple of things, but they got some guys.
Speaker 3: The Titans feels really dark.
Speaker 2: Sad.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got cam Ward, but what else do
Speaker 3: you really have there? The Saints, it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: that's a mess. Like have you said, Okay, what's a mess.
Speaker 3: The Jets prior to beating the Bengals was a mess.
Speaker 3: The Dolphins feels like a mess. The Browns mess ish.
Speaker 3: But the Saints, you know, I didn't expect anything out
Speaker 3: of them, and it feels like, let's try Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 3: see if we have anything here. If not, we draft
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I mean, you just got Kellen Moore. They
Speaker 3: do have some pieces there. So I would say the Titans.
Speaker 3: I mean, even Carolina, even though Carolina is got some wins.
Speaker 3: I just don't know if you're sold on you know,
Speaker 3: Bryce Young.
Speaker 11: Yes, I don't know if we gave Spencer Rattler enough
Speaker 11: of a chance, just saying I felt bad for the
Speaker 11: lad Well he did get a win, he finally got
Speaker 11: a win as a starter for the Saints.
Speaker 3: But I want to find out what they have in
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck And did they go to him sooner than
Speaker 3: I thought? Yes, I thought he was going to be
Speaker 3: like a back half. Five games, six games. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody is on the fast pass. Everything's expedited. It's like,
Speaker 3: we got to find out about our quarterback and if not,
Speaker 3: we got to move on. Move on after two years,
Speaker 3: but I Titans feels pretty tough because if you look around,
Speaker 3: you see what Mike Brabel's doing with the Patriots. Like
Speaker 3: I start there and I go, oh, like, you had
Speaker 3: a great coach and you got rid of it. You
Speaker 3: had pieces there that you got rid of, Yes, Marvin, only.
Speaker 6: If they had a franchise wide receiver to throw the
Speaker 6: ball to.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See that's the hard part with this is it felt
Speaker 3: like they had some pieces and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you start over and I don't know if cam Ward
Speaker 3: is good. I've seen glimpses, but you know, i'd love
Speaker 3: to see him be able to play with you know,
Speaker 3: if I had cam Ward in Chicago, I'd like to
Speaker 3: see what he does with Ben Johnson as his coach.
Speaker 2: And all those weapons.
Speaker 3: Now it doesn't work that way, but I don't know
Speaker 3: how you assess how good he is. And that's the
Speaker 3: hard part because with these these teams that are struggling,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to find out if you got
Speaker 3: a quarterback, and most of these teams don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sold on tour with Miami obviously
Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons. Wouldn't have given the contract extension.
Speaker 3: You're going to have a new coach probably next year,
Speaker 3: new system it put in place. Carolina. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about Bryce Young. I love the kid. When he came
Speaker 3: in and visited us at the Super Bowl. You know
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean he's a franchise quarterback. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about Jacksonville. Trevor Lawrence should be. And PAULI reminded me
Speaker 3: that Kirkirbstreet joined us prior to that draft when Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence was taking number one overall, and Herbie said at
Speaker 3: the time, this is right before the draft. They said,
Speaker 3: now there's some questions I have here. Now I get it.
Speaker 3: Most of your quarterbacks are gonna have questions. Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: had questions, cam Ward had questions, but Trevor was supposed
Speaker 3: to be a sure thing.
Speaker 2: That's why it's tricky.
Speaker 3: It's tricky when you go we got our guy because
Speaker 3: some of the some of these, how many franchise quarterbacks
Speaker 3: do we have? Not starting quarterbacks? Franchise quarterbacks? We're gonna
Speaker 3: take a break. I'm gonna ask this to dan Orlovsky
Speaker 3: because it's probably less.
Speaker 2: Than you think. I mean, is it ten?
Speaker 3: Ten or fewer franchise quarterbacks in the NFL? Right now?
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Speaker 3: go to see you again. How many franchise quarterbacks are
Speaker 3: there in the NFL.
Speaker 13: I'd probably say twelve right now, would be my guest
Speaker 13: off the top of my head. I mean, you'd have
Speaker 13: to say, no question Josh Allen at one, Drake may
Speaker 13: Is two, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow three four. I'm not
Speaker 13: going to put Rogers in there just because of his age.
Speaker 13: You know, I'm talking a little bit of longevity.
Speaker 14: CJ. Stroud, no doubt.
Speaker 13: Mahomes what's that, Mahomes, Yeah, Mahomes Herbert. I think bo
Speaker 13: Knicks is trending there, but it's probably too early to
Speaker 13: say without a doubt. I'll say that because I'm putting
Speaker 13: Drake May in there, so I think Nix has done enough.
Speaker 13: Jalen Hurts, no question, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, Jordan Love,
Speaker 13: Jared Goff, Matthew Stat. I'm not going to put Stafford
Speaker 13: in there once again because of age. Purdy, Sam Darnold,
Speaker 13: So you're yeah, you're probably at fourteen fifteen man, you're friendly. Well,
Speaker 13: I mean depends on what you want out of the
Speaker 13: franchise quarterback. I mean I would put the franchise quarterback
Speaker 13: into two one group that has two tiers. The first
Speaker 13: tier would be we win games because of you, and
Speaker 13: that's a very small group. That's Lamar, that's Patrick, that's Josh.
Speaker 13: Joe's probably in there. And then there's the group we
Speaker 13: win a lot of games with you, and that's probably
Speaker 13: the group that fills up that another ten bodies. Jaden
Speaker 13: Daniels would be in there as well. So I mean,
Speaker 13: I'm under the belief Dan, that this is the best
Speaker 13: and deepest quarterback the NFL has ever seen. I mean
Speaker 13: there's I just routed off fifteen Baker Mayfield, fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 13: really really good quarterbacks that you know, again, there's only
Speaker 13: three or four that they erase everything, but there's a
Speaker 13: ton that you win just a bunch of games.
Speaker 3: With Lamar Jackson last night. I've always felt like the
Speaker 3: critics are analysts maybe under rate his passing, or they
Speaker 3: did early and he became more of a runner. Now
Speaker 3: he's running less. It's you know, five carries a game.
Speaker 3: With the hamstring injury, he's probably not going to run
Speaker 3: as much. But what's that do to the offense. If
Speaker 3: you're a defensive coordinator and you know Lamar is not
Speaker 3: going to be taken off ten times a game, maybe
Speaker 3: five times a game, how does that change your philosophy
Speaker 3: against them?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say right now, it wouldn't. Lamar is
Speaker 14: always a threat.
Speaker 13: You know, I don't believe there's any defensive coordinator out
Speaker 13: there that's, you know, still not focusing at a hyper
Speaker 13: level of Lamar and his ability to make plays. You know,
Speaker 13: I'll go and when you sit in these production meetings
Speaker 13: for Monday Night football and you talk to these defensive coordinators,
Speaker 13: one more often than not, one of the things that
Speaker 13: they will bring up is, we got to make sure
Speaker 13: that we can't allow this guy.
Speaker 14: To be a scrambler. And this is not Lamar, this
Speaker 14: is most quarterbacks nowadays. I think this is the most.
Speaker 13: Yards run for by all quarterbacks in the NFL through
Speaker 13: eight weeks that we've ever seen. So but I don't
Speaker 13: think that there's a defensive coordinator saying, you know, or
Speaker 13: in the under the impression you don't have to pay
Speaker 13: a ton of attention to it.
Speaker 14: It's still such a huge part of his game.
Speaker 13: It's still the threat that is such a huge part.
Speaker 13: Might be a little bit different now, Dan in comparison
Speaker 13: to maybe three four years ago, because I mean, this
Speaker 13: season's a little unique because of you know, the injury.
Speaker 13: But earlier on it was more designed runs, more runs
Speaker 13: where he would be one of the.
Speaker 14: Two real options to carry the football.
Speaker 13: Now it's more likely for him to scramble, you know,
Speaker 13: a second down pass situation, third down pass situation. So
Speaker 13: I still think he's equally as impactful. It's just a
Speaker 13: little bit more of a secondary play rather than a
Speaker 13: secondary option carrying the ball.
Speaker 3: Vegas loves the Ravens. They love them to win the division,
Speaker 3: as they should, but okay, what's missing with the Steelers?
Speaker 3: Then why are the Ravens going to be that much
Speaker 3: better than the Steelers?
Speaker 13: Well, I think the way that Vegas sees it is,
Speaker 13: this is the roster that for the most part won
Speaker 13: fourteen games last year. They were historically great offensively in
Speaker 13: Baltimore last year, and everybody on that offense is back essentially.
Speaker 14: So part of the reason why.
Speaker 13: Their schedule is or the record is what it is
Speaker 13: is because the injuries early on and then obviously the
Speaker 13: first game in the year Derek fumbles all that. But
Speaker 13: last night was the first time we saw that group
Speaker 13: fully healthy. So we're taking a team that last year
Speaker 13: broke historical records in their offensive performance in production. Most
Speaker 13: of that group is back, so they should be a
Speaker 13: very good offense. I don't know if they'll replicate last year.
Speaker 13: And then that was a defense last year that once again,
Speaker 13: for the most part back half of the season was
Speaker 13: a top five unit.
Speaker 14: Most of those pieces are back.
Speaker 13: So one of the reasons why many of us thought
Speaker 13: this was a no brain er Super Bowl contender. Matt
Speaker 13: a bk being injured is a big deal, and so
Speaker 13: I think the understanding of this is what the roster
Speaker 13: had accomplished last year. This is who the roster is
Speaker 13: this year. It's relatively the same. This should be a
Speaker 13: team that you know should win even at sitting at
Speaker 13: three and five right now, I mean they should sniff
Speaker 13: getting into getting to eleven and six, ten and seven
Speaker 13: at worst. And so it's a better roster then the
Speaker 13: Pittsburgh still is. I still give the Steelers the edge
Speaker 13: to win the division. I'm not panicking over the two
Speaker 13: game losing streak. It's still Rogers. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 13: if Baltimore chased them down because those two losses are
Speaker 13: you know, two that they should not have allowed.
Speaker 3: If you ran the Dolphins. So I'm not going to
Speaker 3: say if you were general manager, because he might not
Speaker 3: keep his job. If you're Steven Ross, what do you
Speaker 3: do at the trade deadline and what do you do
Speaker 3: by the end of the season.
Speaker 13: Trade deadline. I think Waddle's an outstanding player. I would
Speaker 13: see if I can get real value for Wattle. I
Speaker 13: like a lot of the things that Dolphins have done.
Speaker 13: You don't build your football team over the long haul
Speaker 13: by the perimeter players getting paid a gajillion bucks. It's
Speaker 13: just very difficult to do that unless you're ridiculous at drafting.
Speaker 13: So I would see if I can get really good
Speaker 13: kind of compensation for Wattle. I would absolutely look into
Speaker 13: trading both of my defensive ends. Both those guys are
Speaker 13: good players, but they've got a little bit of an
Speaker 13: injury passed and it's.
Speaker 14: Obvious that that roster needs a rebuild.
Speaker 13: That roster's devoid of talent, So both Phillips and Chubb,
Speaker 13: I would look to see if I can get really
Speaker 13: good value out of them. That's probably what I would
Speaker 13: lean on when it comes to like the trade deadline,
Speaker 13: and think people that I would entertain moving for value.
Speaker 13: What would I do moving forward. I'm a fan of
Speaker 13: Mike McDaniels, I really am. I don't think my perspective
Speaker 13: is this Dan. Two years ago, this offense was flying high.
Speaker 13: I called the Monday Night football game in Miami the
Speaker 13: first week of December when they were playing for the
Speaker 13: one seed two years ago, and then injuries derailed the season,
Speaker 13: and they really have it recovered. I don't think the
Speaker 13: guy forgot how to coach. I don't think for two
Speaker 13: of forgot how to play. It's easier said than done.
Speaker 13: It's not my job on the line. But I still
Speaker 13: think he can coach, and I still think that quarterback
Speaker 13: can play.
Speaker 14: But that roster really has a lot of Void's talent
Speaker 14: wise that would need a significant uptick and ability.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you didn't put Tua in your franchise quarterbacks.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I didn Jaden as first either. I ran out
Speaker 13: of names. I would put two in that group absolutely.
Speaker 13: As far as ability to play. Now, the caveat the
Speaker 13: asterisk with Tuoa is one, there's a very specific scheme
Speaker 13: that he can only play in. It's this one. It's
Speaker 13: the only scheme that he can really thrive. And now
Speaker 13: I think he's one of the only guys in the
Speaker 13: league that can play in that way because of the
Speaker 13: space of their passing game and the anticipation. So that
Speaker 13: does that, you know, hinder the coach that can be
Speaker 13: his coach, no question. And then the two is you're
Speaker 13: always going to have the health issues kind of looming
Speaker 13: over the top of toa but I would put him
Speaker 13: in that group, no doubt.
Speaker 3: I'm talking to dan Or Lomski of the Mothership NFL Live.
Speaker 3: Every weekday they start at for Eastern. We make a
Speaker 3: big deal about the Chiefs and the Bills, and it
Speaker 3: just feels like we want this to be a rivalry.
Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know if it is a rivalry.
Speaker 14: Why because the Bills haven't won.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the.
Speaker 13: Bills I've won a ton in the regular season, right,
Speaker 13: So in that regard, there's no.
Speaker 14: Doubt about it that it is. They obviously haven't gotten
Speaker 14: it done.
Speaker 3: It's like the Colts and the Patriots when Peyton was
Speaker 3: playing Tom. It's like the Red Sox and Yankees before
Speaker 3: the Red Sox finally won. It's hey, great regular season
Speaker 3: and then it comes to you know, nut cut in
Speaker 3: time and they fail.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I think the way that the games go in the
Speaker 13: postseason make me think a little bit more towards this
Speaker 13: as a bona fide rivalry. Both quarterbacks have been exceptional
Speaker 13: in those games. We don't have, you know, the journey
Speaker 13: of Mahomes and some of the really kind of moments
Speaker 13: that he's had. We don't have that thirteen second dump off,
Speaker 13: the Kelsey kicked field goal unless we have that Allan
Speaker 13: performance two years ago, we don't have, you know, the
Speaker 13: Mahomes journey unless we have Josh being unbelievable and then
Speaker 13: the drop and the missed field goal.
Speaker 14: We don't have that last year.
Speaker 13: Again with Patrick's run to the super Bowl, unless we
Speaker 13: have that unbelievable game in Kansas City. So, you know,
Speaker 13: I think because of that perform I mean, to your point,
Speaker 13: I understand that they haven't gotten it done in the playoffs,
Speaker 13: but they're still great games and the quarterbacks have been great,
Speaker 13: and so I think that bonafides rivalry.
Speaker 3: Have the Chiefs gotten into the Patriots category of their hateable.
Speaker 14: Oh gosh, yeah, they've been there.
Speaker 13: I mean, I have four kids. We're a sports family.
Speaker 13: Part of this is because my wife is a Philly girl.
Speaker 13: So my kids are diehard Philly sports fans. And I
Speaker 13: say this, and I love Patrick. My sons hate Patrick.
Speaker 13: They can't stand them, you know, because.
Speaker 14: He's got good Yes, yes, that's the reason why.
Speaker 13: I mean, they are Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts you know,
Speaker 13: so much better. And I'm like, guys, Patrick's ridiculous, and
Speaker 13: so yeah, I think there's a lot of people that
Speaker 13: dislike them because of their success.
Speaker 3: No question, do you break down Patrick Mahomes for your
Speaker 3: boys to understand the time.
Speaker 14: All the time, but they don't want to listen to it.
Speaker 14: Like they don't want to listen to it.
Speaker 13: I'll be like, guys, Patrick Mahomes can do stuff that
Speaker 13: no one can't the first person out of their mouth,
Speaker 13: first name out of their mouth. They'll be like, Jalen
Speaker 13: Hurts could do that, you know, And I'll be like, no,
Speaker 13: Jalen's a great player, but he's not this person, you know,
Speaker 13: And so I break.
Speaker 14: Him down all the time to him. I think I
Speaker 14: do that for a lot of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 13: But yeah, Patrick is a guy that I'm aaron playing
Speaker 13: so well. I'm like and Matthew Dad used to play,
Speaker 13: you know with these guys, and then they.
Speaker 14: Make fun of me for being old, but yeah, they're
Speaker 14: into it.
Speaker 3: It feels like Jalen Hurts is more of a rival
Speaker 3: to Patrick Mahomes than Josh Allen.
Speaker 14: Yes, because he's gotten it done in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I want to know. What do you
Speaker 3: do when you have to win a game, when I'm
Speaker 3: relying on you to win a game. Josh Allen's a
Speaker 3: wonderful talent, so is Lamar Jackson, But you don't want
Speaker 3: to be Charles Barkley or Patrick Ewing to Michael Jordan,
Speaker 3: Sure well, I.
Speaker 13: Would tell you that Josh and Lamar, while in the
Speaker 13: same group of not getting it done, one has not
Speaker 13: had it happen.
Speaker 14: Not because of his performance. I mean, Josh has been great.
Speaker 13: Lamar is the guy that we would sit there and go,
Speaker 13: exceptional player. He's the one who is falling a little
Speaker 13: bit more flat in those matchups and or in the
Speaker 13: playoffs than Josh has.
Speaker 14: So I agree with you, they got to get it done.
Speaker 14: I mean it's everyone.
Speaker 13: I think there's a vast majority of NFL fans that
Speaker 13: look at Buffalo and look at Baltimore and go, we
Speaker 13: hope you get it done.
Speaker 14: We want to see you finally win it.
Speaker 13: Because both franchises have been so good for the past
Speaker 13: five or six years.
Speaker 14: Both quarterbacks are great.
Speaker 13: There's nothing else for either quarterback to accomplish other than
Speaker 13: that and so, and.
Speaker 14: Both organizations are very well run.
Speaker 13: So I think there's a huge group that would love
Speaker 13: to see a Baltimore Buffalo get it done.
Speaker 14: But they got to get it done.
Speaker 3: How challenging is it on a daily basis when you
Speaker 3: go into the mothership. You see the rundown and you
Speaker 3: know the Cleveland Browns and Shador Sanders or the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are going to be on there, and you got to
Speaker 3: come up with something new, something French.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's hard, I mean especially, I mean I always
Speaker 13: say this next month is the hardest month for me
Speaker 13: at my job. I know who like the playoff teams are,
Speaker 13: for the most part, or at least a group. I
Speaker 13: know what they're good at, I know what they're not
Speaker 13: good at. I can only go on TV so much
Speaker 13: and tell these people this team can run the ball,
Speaker 13: this team can't, this team's quarterback's really good, this team's isn't.
Speaker 13: And so you get into a little bit of a
Speaker 13: monotony in that element, and then I know that, Okay,
Speaker 13: the Cowboys are going to be on there or is
Speaker 13: going to be a talk talking point. I think being
Speaker 13: on daily, I think the people behind the scenes know
Speaker 13: me well enough.
Speaker 14: What do you have to say about the Cowboys? Nothing?
Speaker 13: I don't have to say anything about the Cowboys. Guys,
Speaker 13: I don't and I don't want to talk about the Cowboys.
Speaker 14: Well we have to talk about.
Speaker 13: The Cowboys, No, we don't. We can go one day
Speaker 13: without talking about the Cowboys. I mean, you know how
Speaker 13: it is at ESPN. I always say, like some of
Speaker 13: the reality is there's so many programs at ESPN, and
Speaker 13: it takes so much manpower to operate each program as
Speaker 13: well as they do that, Like there's a little bit
Speaker 13: of a silo reality, Like seven o'clock Sports Center is
Speaker 13: really concerned about seven o'clock Sports Center, and so they're
Speaker 13: trying to make their version of that show as good
Speaker 13: as possible. They don't care eight o'clock Get Up is
Speaker 13: getting you know, the first thing out of their mouth
Speaker 13: is the Cowboys. They're focused on theirs, and so it's challenging.
Speaker 13: I try to find different ways to talk about the
Speaker 13: teams or educate the teams or the situations.
Speaker 14: I think you just I've learned it, Dan. I have
Speaker 14: to be very disciplined, you know.
Speaker 13: I have to be very disciplined because I think when
Speaker 13: I was younger, you fall into the mindset of you
Speaker 13: have to say something, and then you ten minutes after
Speaker 13: saying it, you go, why did I just say that?
Speaker 14: That was stupid?
Speaker 13: I don't actually think that way, and so I tried
Speaker 13: to be get very disciplined about it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I understand there are times when you
Speaker 3: talk about the Cowboys that offense and Dak was playing
Speaker 3: really well. It's a shame they don't have an average
Speaker 3: defense because they'd be a playoff team. The Brown situation
Speaker 3: is it feels like, you know, everybody is pushing for
Speaker 3: this Shador Sanders moment. Social media wants this badly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I don't. I hope he gets a chance to play.
Speaker 3: You know, Dylan Gabriel, give him, you know, six seven,
Speaker 3: eight starts, there's your sample size.
Speaker 2: Can he play?
Speaker 3: Same thing with Shadoor Sanders, but being a rookie and
Speaker 3: you know, getting pushed in there with a bad team.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we like cam Ward. I don't
Speaker 3: know how good cam Ward is because it's on a
Speaker 3: bad team and you're going to put him in there
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it's going to be, well,
Speaker 3: you put him in there and the team's not any
Speaker 3: good either way. It feels like you can't win in
Speaker 3: this situation.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 13: I think the thing that you know with the cam
Speaker 13: Ward thing, I think you can unequivocally watch cam.
Speaker 14: Ward throw and be like, yep, we could do that.
Speaker 13: There's a lot to work with there, I think your
Speaker 13: point with the Chador situation is totally fair.
Speaker 14: The attention that Shador has gathered and earned in some ways,
Speaker 14: we know why.
Speaker 13: I mean, he was a high end high school recruit
Speaker 13: that went with his dad to a small school.
Speaker 14: They were super successful. They go to Colorado, they do
Speaker 14: a lot of successful things at Colorado.
Speaker 13: He was a controversial draft prospect because of stories and
Speaker 13: play and talent and.
Speaker 14: How good is he and whatnot and all that. You know.
Speaker 14: I think that Shador is eventually gonna play this season.
Speaker 13: I would not be surprised if he plays within the
Speaker 13: next three or four games unless things drastically change with
Speaker 13: Dylan Gabriel and his performance, because he's just been okay,
Speaker 13: if you know, probably at best. It's not gonna be
Speaker 13: an ideal situation for Shaudor. It very rarely is for
Speaker 13: rookie quarterbacks, certainly ones that are drafted late, and so
Speaker 13: Shaudor is gonna have to make the best of it
Speaker 13: when he gets out there, if he gets out there.
Speaker 13: But I agree, it's not gonna be the ideal situation
Speaker 13: to truly evaluate how good he is. But that doesn't
Speaker 13: mean he can't take advantage of it and really start
Speaker 13: to raise some eyebrows in the building.
Speaker 3: What's the fan base that has a problem with you
Speaker 3: the most?
Speaker 14: Whoo oh man, I'm I mean, I feel like I
Speaker 14: go on stretches. Last year, Pittsburgh hated me, but I
Speaker 14: was right.
Speaker 13: Kansas City, but Kansas City twists my words more than anybody,
Speaker 13: like I'll say again, I'm trying to I'm part of
Speaker 13: my job is to talk about that. I'm not a cheerleader,
Speaker 13: you know. Part of my job is to be critical
Speaker 13: of either performances or potential And so if you say
Speaker 13: something somewhat negative or you know, foreshadowing a potential hiccup
Speaker 13: for a team, you hate them.
Speaker 14: No, I don't.
Speaker 13: I feel like the Eagles have gone up and down
Speaker 13: with me and some the Cowboys fans always hate me.
Speaker 13: But again, I've always been right about the Cowboys. I
Speaker 13: feel like I've been pretty dead on about the Eagles.
Speaker 13: I've been pretty dead on about the Chiefs. Buffalo fans,
Speaker 13: for the most part, lovey. Baltimore fans hate me because
Speaker 13: they think I stole the MVP from Lamar last year,
Speaker 13: which I literally voted for him the year before.
Speaker 14: So it's Ebbs and flows man. EV's in flows.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Gotta be careful when you're walking through the airports.
Speaker 14: Oh man, No, But the funny thing is I mean,
Speaker 14: I would tell you that.
Speaker 13: Nine present, the interaction that I ever have in public
Speaker 13: is like overwhelmingly humbling.
Speaker 14: You know, it's very nice.
Speaker 13: And then social media, I'm like, Yo, these people are
Speaker 13: out of their mind, man. But it happens most I
Speaker 13: get text messages from people. I get text messages from
Speaker 13: family or friends saying like, stop bad mouthing us.
Speaker 14: And I'll be like, I'm not bad mouthing you. I said,
Speaker 14: your defense has to play better.
Speaker 13: Like you guys gave up thirty what do you so?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. Have a good weekend, Appreciate it always.
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Speaker 3: Buddha in San Francisco leads us off Morning.
Speaker 10: Buddha, No buddy, Happy Hellen to all of DP nationed
Speaker 10: in and a fritzy. Anytime you get caught being distracted
Speaker 10: during the show, just say eleven bro. That would have
Speaker 10: certainly saved you a bunch of grief earlier this week,
Speaker 10: just saying and Dan, I have a pie of the
Speaker 10: face bet for Marvin, But real quick, if one of
Speaker 10: Fritzy's Halloween names today are Blue Weekly, Candy Maldonado, Smooky
Speaker 10: Wilson or Frank Gore. I propose he gets an automatic
Speaker 10: pie of the face. Wow, but my pie of the
Speaker 10: face be for what Marvin is since his best logo
Speaker 10: and sports are up three to two and he's been
Speaker 10: rocking the Blue Jays gear all series. I saw that Marvin.
Speaker 10: I will take the Dodgers to win in seven, and
Speaker 10: either here I will take a Dodger or Blue Jay
Speaker 10: blueberry pie to the face. It's all about content, baby,
Speaker 10: Let's go Marvin.
Speaker 3: Marvin's in. I mean, yeah, all right, all right, we
Speaker 3: got a bet. So Buddha's got the Dodgers in seven,
Speaker 3: and Marvin, all you need is one more victory. That's
Speaker 3: it for your Blue Jays. Alex in La Hi, Alex,
Speaker 3: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Guys?
Speaker 10: You know, first time caller.
Speaker 4: Longtime listener, five to seven, one hundred and sixty pounds
Speaker 4: appear dominant. Hey, just first and foremost, just want to say, hey, God,
Speaker 4: bless all your families. Guys, have a good Halloween tonight,
Speaker 4: you know, and be safe may all your family members.
Speaker 9: You know, it's prosper man.
Speaker 4: I just want to say that first and foremost of
Speaker 4: you guys, Okay, thank you. Yeah, and just hey, no,
Speaker 4: I got the Dodgers winning. I know I sound crazy, man,
Speaker 4: but I'm from La Man.
Speaker 7: You gotta believe.
Speaker 10: You gotta believe. We're going to go in today and
Speaker 10: we're just gonna dominate.
Speaker 4: Mookie's gonna have his best game. He's gonna put on
Speaker 4: his best performance because he knows what's up.
Speaker 10: And it's time.
Speaker 4: It's time, gentlemen, We're about to win this.
Speaker 7: We're about to take it off, and the Dodgers are
Speaker 7: going to win in seven.
Speaker 3: Like Buddha just said, all right, Alex, thank you. You
Speaker 3: got Yamamoto tonight, and I certainly like your chances. H
Speaker 3: Aiden in Utah Hi, Aiden, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, Dan.
Speaker 4: Listen, I got a pile of the face.
Speaker 2: Okay, my Utah jazz, your Utah jazz.
Speaker 7: They're gonna win fifty games this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a pile of the face. Aiden.
Speaker 2: If it's Marvin, let's through ball to the balls bulls. Yeah, Olden,
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, Marvin will do a pile of the face
Speaker 3: with you. You got Utah winning fifty games this year.
Speaker 2: You don't know what's coming Martin.
Speaker 3: No, wow, yeah, Laurie Marketing, that's what's coming your way.
Speaker 2: Marvin uh said five, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Al in Atlanta, Hi, Al, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Good morning, Dan, Happy Halloween to all. I just want
Speaker 7: to say one thing about the previous caller. Anytime a
Speaker 7: dan At accepts a pie of the face bet that
Speaker 7: quickly you.
Speaker 2: Made a bad bet.
Speaker 7: I know myself from many bets that I've made with seating.
Speaker 7: But what I'm calling it about is I would just
Speaker 7: like to know where were those Dolphins five days ago.
Speaker 7: It blows my mind that they could look so different
Speaker 7: just four days later.
Speaker 9: And I get it. You know, the Falcons and defense
Speaker 9: are missing some key pull parts, and our offense are
Speaker 9: missing some key parts. But that was just such a
Speaker 9: different team out there. Is it that everybody just comes
Speaker 9: into Mercedes Benz and knows that we're cursed by taking
Speaker 9: out two like old churches, So they just know we're
Speaker 9: gonna fail because the Falcons aren't this bad. But we
Speaker 9: lose horribly to the Panthers, we lose horribly to the Dolphins.
Speaker 9: The two at the time lomping stocks of the NFL,
Speaker 9: and I refuse to believe the Falcons.
Speaker 14: I was this poet.
Speaker 3: And you beat Buffalo. How about this? Al Falcons beat
Speaker 3: the Patriots this weekend?
Speaker 7: The greatest thing ever. I'd be calling all of my
Speaker 7: friends in New England just gluting, even though they could
Speaker 7: still be like scoreboard and then still just you know,
Speaker 7: reference the game that is not mentioned.
Speaker 9: But it's I don't know to think. And if we
Speaker 9: do beat the Patriots, it it's not gonna be any happiness.
Speaker 7: That's what I don't We're gonna lose.
Speaker 3: This is what I don't understand. Thank you, Al, I
Speaker 3: have a great weekend. You have fans who were surprised
Speaker 3: by their teams, but you shouldn't be surprised by your
Speaker 3: teams because your teams have been this way for a while,
Speaker 3: And yes, why can we look so good and then
Speaker 3: we can look so bad? You're right, it happens, but
Speaker 3: it's it's just weird. They're weird moments in the season
Speaker 3: where you go that doesn't make any sense, but I
Speaker 3: think it's going to happen or that team they're not
Speaker 3: any good, like the Dolphins are going to beat somebody
Speaker 3: and it'll surprise you, Tennessee might beat somebody. It you know,
Speaker 3: the Bears might beat somebody and it will surprise you. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 6: Words out of my mouth, the Chicago Bears are in
Speaker 6: that category.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They can be a championship contender one minute and a
Speaker 6: top ten draft pick the next.
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley will join us. Coming up in about twenty
Speaker 3: five minutes from now, update our poll results. Fritzi's got
Speaker 3: his Halloween names. That'll be coming up a little bit later.
Speaker 3: We want to tease the audience for that time.
Speaker 5: I just took Frank Gore after
Speaker 3: Boo Weekly on hour two right after this