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Speaker 1: welcome to the Naughty but Nica. I'm your house to

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Speaker 1: ram Shooter. It is Tuesday, which means our dear friend

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Speaker 2: so cold, Dear New York.

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Speaker 1: But everybody, stay stafe, stay warm. Let's jump into the show.

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Speaker 1: What time is it, my friends? It is time. Big

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Speaker 1: story at the top of the show. So Nicko Rainer

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Speaker 1: has pled not guilty in a brutal double murder of

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Speaker 1: his parents. Let me explain. So he was in court

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Speaker 1: on Monday yesterday two counts of first degree murder in

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Speaker 1: the stabbing death of his father, the acclaimed director Rob Bryner,

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Speaker 1: and his mother, Michelle. He appeared in a downtown court.

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Speaker 1: He was in shackles and a brown jail jumpsuit. He's

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Speaker 1: thirty two years old. He looked stone faced. I had

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Speaker 1: people in the court who said he didn't really make

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Speaker 1: by the judge. He's being held without bail at the

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Speaker 1: faces a lifetime in prison and also to the death

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Speaker 1: penalty is still on the table. His next appearance is

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Speaker 1: April twenty ninth. This is the first time we have

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Speaker 1: seen Nick. He looks thinner, his hair, head is shaved.

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Speaker 1: Clearly not not a well human being. What was interesting

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Speaker 1: to me, though, mister, is the family. We reported this

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Speaker 1: first on this part. The family is no longer paying

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Speaker 1: be that. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, originally he had this very high profoil lawyer

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Speaker 2: basically his brother and sister are no longer paying for

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Speaker 2: his defense. So it was up to a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: As you can imagine, this is something that's going to

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Speaker 2: public defender, and I believe her name is Kimberly, and

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Speaker 2: that's because he can't afford to provide his own counsel.

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Speaker 2: So it's really interesting and we'll have to see what's happened.

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Speaker 2: But what I find fascinating about this is that he

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Speaker 2: She was a superintendent, which is equal to a warden.

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Speaker 2: And in New York State, people who are under who

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting that in LA they wear brown, here

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Speaker 1: We love a detail, my friend, We love a detail.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what's going on in this family. I've

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Speaker 1: believe he has done. Once again he said he is

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Speaker 1: not guilty. I think the evidence clearly does not seem

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Speaker 1: think we all know what we think, but we are

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Speaker 1: not there yet legally. But they're not there. This is

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Speaker 1: You're right at first, there was a very high powered

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Speaker 1: Would you pay your siblings, your brothers, or your sisters

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Speaker 1: naughty Nice Rob. At Facebook page is naughty GRSIP. I'm

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Speaker 2: the BAFT Awards. So now Jamie Fox is a blasting

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's blaming John Davidson for what he said,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no safeguards. And let's remember this show

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Speaker 1: when the BBC aired it hours later, why didn't they

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Speaker 1: isn't it. So this story is very complicated too. Eric

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Speaker 1: Danes go fund me page has been put on hold

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