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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season episode one of

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Speaker 1: the Daily Sight geice to production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It is ugly in here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's also Monday, April nineteen. My name is Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: a K tell me do you listen to the Zite

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Speaker 1: in the morning or the night? Do you want to

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Speaker 1: hear everything trending in a second rate pod show? And

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Speaker 1: you know I'm Jack and I'm a dad with Miles Gray,

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Speaker 1: a dude who's read read the Cold Gas Study years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now I can't leave it alone with my heart. You

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Speaker 1: can drive around the town, don't have to turn the

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Speaker 1: volume down. The dew is gone, but baja might be

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Speaker 1: found a quite buch my thirst. Hey t Yeah, uh

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Speaker 1: that's courtesy of the why that was? It was painful

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Speaker 1: for me for y'all. Uh, I got through it and

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my co

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Speaker 1: host Mr Miles Grab boom boom boom boom. Funny ASH Shows,

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Speaker 1: Funny ASH Shows, What Funny Shows, Funny ASH showed, Funny

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Speaker 1: Ash Shows, Funny ASH Show, Come on, Funny Show, Funny

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Speaker 1: what what Okay, that is obviously money cash holes, but

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Speaker 1: funny ash shows. And that was me doing the d

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Speaker 1: m X ad Lives. Thank you to Christie. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Gucci main at waffle House for that one. That was

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Speaker 1: the first I think I had heard of d MX

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Speaker 1: was money cash that energy. Yeah, come on, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa a ball coach. Uh. Well, we are thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the

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Speaker 1: talented Kaitlyn g Skateling Gilf, the roller skate and ready

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Speaker 1: that you'd like to I mean, you want to fun,

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Speaker 1: you want to get in it, abound want to grind

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Speaker 1: down on them war hips. They can take it, she stays,

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Speaker 1: she's stays strong, she's hating. Yeah, although the MG I

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Speaker 1: presented she is skateboarding. Uh. And he's like, guys, fancy

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Speaker 1: want to take a real close up look at skateling Gilf.

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Speaker 1: She's hitting her skateboard. Yeah, ground for the plugs. You

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Speaker 1: don't get the first now. Yeah, this is the first

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Speaker 1: time that I guess has come with their a K

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Speaker 1: and blazoned on their background. Uh. And it is is

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Speaker 1: the next level production. Yeah, this is a beautiful, a

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Speaker 1: beautiful thing. All custom custom art, skateling, guilt, the art tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Can't you can't lay? Oh? This is I gotta come

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Speaker 1: to the level. Yeah, what's new? What's newland Scalind's living

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Speaker 1: a brand new life, right, new year, new me. Things

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Speaker 1: have changed. There are bad, they ain't good. Uh. If

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Speaker 1: you wanna key into my life, check out Nomad land

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Speaker 1: oscar nominated film that does not depict my life in

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Speaker 1: an RV. But I have one nounced to me and

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Speaker 1: Frances mcdormott. Uh, actually honestly than the one poor friend

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Speaker 1: had in that particular film. But I'm chilling with family. Um,

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Speaker 1: the sweet lady and I bought a car. That's a

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Speaker 1: house that moves, and now we're bouncing between our fams.

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Speaker 1: For now, I think sat plants cooking. But in the

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Speaker 1: meantime I started coming to the mixed T shirts. That's friend.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, and someday I'll tell

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Speaker 1: jokes again somewhere. But until then, I bought myself a job.

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Speaker 1: Are you go? What part of what part of the

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Speaker 1: country you guys bouncing? Do you like to know? Yeah? God, specifically,

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Speaker 1: I'm in nap Okay now in my parents garage in Napa, California.

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Speaker 1: I love it up there. I love it up there.

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Speaker 1: They got a green screen because it's a reality of

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Speaker 1: this can't be. I can't broadcast. I'm in a garage.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a garage. I'm in my parents. I'm forty

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Speaker 1: and in my parents. I'm in my parents garage. You

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Speaker 1: get all the I'm recording. I put the sign on

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Speaker 1: the dark guys. Yeah, thanks for asking. I don't want more.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, Caitlin, We're going to get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners what we're talking about. We're

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Speaker 1: obviously gonna be talking about Chicago police, why they can

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Speaker 1: go fund themselves, one guy in particular, but just all around.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about guns being like lead poisoning,

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Speaker 1: just like a generational problem that has accumulated over time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that we just need to fucking get rid of somehow.

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Speaker 1: We will check him with Florida, because that's always good

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Speaker 1: to raise the spirits. Uh. We will talk about Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden and Netflix, all of that plenty more. First, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what's something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, I

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Speaker 1: think my two the two things I saw immediately when

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Speaker 1: looking for my Google search history reveal me as the gay, white,

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Speaker 1: fearful person that I am. And it's the two halves,

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Speaker 1: Because I needed to see sweet lady Taylor say what

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Speaker 1: dubh oh? Gardening in the desert was the other one.

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Speaker 1: How to grow food and an airic climate was the

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Speaker 1: other search. So really preparing for my history of screaming

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Speaker 1: winning things into the night as my garden. Right, wow,

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Speaker 1: what a combo? What's the are you for me? I'm

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Speaker 1: a novice in terms of like I like to garden

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Speaker 1: and stuff, but I've always done it like in traditional

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Speaker 1: work in the desert? Essentially? Was like, what's it takes?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much? Yes, yeah, yeah, what's it takes? What's what's

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Speaker 1: the key? What do we do? What? You gotta get water,

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Speaker 1: or just except that you live where humans shouldn't and

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Speaker 1: use that it's provided to you, you buy are no? No,

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Speaker 1: like how it's working out for l A. Yeah really cool.

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Speaker 1: We just had to steal people's water from up north.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, I went to Humboldt State and I'm from

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Speaker 1: Nappa I know water. I'm here for my water. So

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Speaker 1: that's what you want a little bit more about me?

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Speaker 1: Screeching couples and food preparation. That's my that's been my bad,

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Speaker 1: lay right, I love it. Yeah, that's also going to

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Speaker 1: come in handy, I think for the entire world. The

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Speaker 1: gardening in the in the desert. Oh yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: read uh, this was an interesting year to be Like,

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Speaker 1: people are talking about this Parable of the Sower. I

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Speaker 1: should read that right, So yeah, my phone looks like

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Speaker 1: a character from Parable of the Sower found an iPhone

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Speaker 1: How how soon do you think until we're all eating bugs? Yeah? Like,

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Speaker 1: and do you think bug bug eating will be normal before? Oh?

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Speaker 1: mean commercially available, Like it becomes like there's the Taco

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Speaker 1: but it's also going to be just like meat is

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Speaker 1: last patch of the amazons with things. What happened? Yeah? Um,

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Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay personal due

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Speaker 1: to my recent experience, you can tell I've been cleaning

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Speaker 1: fucking swiffers can get out, they can go. I'm good

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Speaker 1: to brown them up. Why did we Why did I

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Speaker 1: get duped in? This is like listening this on tech

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Speaker 1: bro being like I've reinvented it. It's a big cards

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Speaker 1: people up in mass and that takes them to other destinations.

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Speaker 1: That's a bus like I've reinvented it. It's a first

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Speaker 1: store where you don't have to buy the book, you

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Speaker 1: can take it for a minute in the brief, and

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Speaker 1: it's a library Like I just didn't realize that I

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Speaker 1: had been conned, and I fought with a swipper and

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Speaker 1: nothing got clean until um, the good old moppin broom

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Speaker 1: came back. So if it a brooke, don't fix it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think there's just something about like because the commercial

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Speaker 1: is like whoa, Like this fiber will kind of attract

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Speaker 1: some dust, but it's like old because prior to Swiffer,

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Speaker 1: they made a product backwards from a commercial. It's not

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Speaker 1: a need. They made a commercial and they saw the

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Speaker 1: product and a name. Yeah, that's how movies are made

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Speaker 1: these days. Hey, I you know, I gotta remember that.

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Speaker 1: Come back out of the parents garage. My mom is

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Speaker 1: in full immigrant mode with Swiffer stuff where she got

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Speaker 1: bit by the swift for a bug at first, and

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Speaker 1: now she just uses the swiffer stick but has a

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Speaker 1: the stick, and I was just buy the things. She's like, no, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: my mom, right, And I think it replaced the old

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Speaker 1: school ones that used to be like the sponge that

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Speaker 1: like self squeeze itself out where now she's just like, nah, whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm incorporating old towels and the swiffer stick to mop again.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, mops are just hows you pushed with sticks, Like,

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Speaker 1: end the media step, but the swiffer forces you to

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Speaker 1: go even further back in mop technology, right, yeah, with

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Speaker 1: the added bonus that the paper can tear or fall off.

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Speaker 1: And I remember also like it also caused unnecessary arguments

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Speaker 1: with roommates in the order in which you used things

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Speaker 1: where it's like you got a swiffer then vacuum, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't give off fuck what they told you over

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Speaker 1: a S. C. Johnson and Wax saw a game. Man.

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Speaker 1: This place looks like ship. It doesn't matter if we

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Speaker 1: clean up the ship in whatever order we sued clean

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Speaker 1: Clean is the important part. If you want anti later,

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Speaker 1: you can't right in my opinion, swiffers are you got?

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Speaker 1: I'm going back? What about swiper duster for duster. That's

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Speaker 1: a duster. You're described suster swiffer dust, but it's a

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Speaker 1: swiffer duster swiffer too. The swiffer tooth freshes next. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do feel like mops. We haven't totally. Swiffer is

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Speaker 1: not a better version of the mop. But mops are

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Speaker 1: tend to be pretty gross if you don't look if

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Speaker 1: you gotta take care of them right. The swiffer trying

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Speaker 1: to solve the problem of taking care of your mos

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Speaker 1: by letting you throw away a mop head every time,

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Speaker 1: then run out of mop heads and hot glue of

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Speaker 1: paper towel to your swiffer. It has to be that

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Speaker 1: there's no other way to clean this floor except for

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Speaker 1: with this paper towel that after check gun that sprays

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Speaker 1: windex on the floor as I push a paper towel.

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Speaker 1: How else could I possibly accomplish this same task? Didn't

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Speaker 1: mean to come to do swiffer, but I'm here now

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Speaker 1: fucking swhiffer. I mean, I get it. It's it needs

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Speaker 1: to be said. Thank you. What is something, Kaylin, you

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Speaker 1: think is underrated. Okay, this is another hot one controversial.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna agree with me. It's doing dishes. We're all

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Speaker 1: mad at it. It's the most centure. It goes by fast.

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Speaker 1: You your hands are all nice and warm, and then

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Speaker 1: you lotion them up and they feel all soft and good.

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Speaker 1: It is one of the most needs to be done,

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Speaker 1: and then it is done tasks. It is satisfying almost

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Speaker 1: every time. I have grown to not hate the dishes.

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Speaker 1: I am an old lady and I accept it. I

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Speaker 1: whole other part of my psyche, which is now to

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Speaker 1: fucking recapture my power over you by any means necessary,

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Speaker 1: up and including killing you. Yeah, this guy, by the way,

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Speaker 1: uh filed a false police report against the police superintendent

424
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Speaker 1: for participating in a non violence march. So his position

425
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Speaker 1: as the head of the police union is that the

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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: police are too nonviolent, too sympathetic to non violence, and

427
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Speaker 1: it's just infuriating that they like the fact that this

428
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Speaker 1: person is still in a position of authority, and like

429
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Speaker 1: when you look at the statistics, like there's been there

430
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Speaker 1: were forty eight officers who were shot last year, um

431
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Speaker 1: who were shot and killed last year, there were they

432
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: shot and killed a little under a thousand people. The

433
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: like those numbers just on their on their face. They

434
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Speaker 1: want us to view them as heroic, and they're much

435
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Speaker 1: more likely to go out and murder someone then be murdered. Like,

436
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like at a very base level,

437
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Speaker 1: I I I feel like we need to have a

438
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: reckoning and a reconfiguration of just like how we think

439
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: about that this whole thing, the police, whether there are

440
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: just in general, I don't I don't think we can

441
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: continue to just view this as the status quo. It's

442
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: just so fucking infuriating. It's this obsession with a fear

443
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: of citizenry when by all measure, property and violent crime

444
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: is committed at a greater rate by the state or

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00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: by commercial institutions. Looking at theft between civil asset forfeiture

446
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 1: and wage theft, like the odds that you're you're being

447
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: stolen from by the state or another organized entity is

448
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: so much greater than an individual threatening you. We've built

449
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Speaker 1: a society where we believe that individuals post threats to

450
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Speaker 1: us all the time, that we need to protect ourselves

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Speaker 1: from somehow by arming ourselves. Are I guess when we're

452
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: asleep and the cops have fucking robot dogs, like there's

453
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: nothing you know that the violence we're afraid of is

454
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: perpetuated all around us by institutions that we trust because

455
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: of TV shows, and it is wild. People still think

456
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: cops are law and order or its like that. The

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00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: hospital is e er and it's not. It is, that's

458
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: not what's happening, but it is. It's terrifying. And I

459
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: am not at a high risk profile as an individual,

460
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: like you know, this is a terrifying place to be

461
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine the terror in a thirteen year

462
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: old like yeah, I don't know, Yeah, it's just wild.

463
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like how both like police and people of

464
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: color walk around kind of with the same fear. Not

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00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: that the police is justified, but people of color I

466
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: do have to walk around in fear for their lives constantly.

467
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: So we're coming back to like Antebelle and bullshit fear

468
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: that like this is white control in the This idea

469
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: that like what white people are losing when they lose

470
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: control over people who aren't white is like the undercurrent

471
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: it like that's what police were and you know, the

472
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: tree is the same as the route it came from,

473
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: and they perceived this threat of like, you know, the

474
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: existence of people who aren't white as being equal to

475
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: a physical threat to them. Like it's existing, it's having

476
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Speaker 1: an air freshener, it's having your hands up, it's walking

477
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: the skittles, it's walking and singing. It's you know, the

478
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: existence is an existential threat to that tree. It's root

479
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: is real, firm and literally white people controlling black people

480
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: that they owned. It's the same the same tree Chicago Pets,

481
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: just a branch hanging out and and you have and

482
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: you hope to God or I mean whatever. At this point,

483
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: it's like what politicians can do. I hope, thank you, Yeah,

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00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: I hope to scaling guilt that even the politicians that

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Speaker 1: are there who have the ability, I mean, you know,

486
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote to change the laws, it just sucked up

487
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 1: because they have no idea that they are or they

488
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: do or don't outwardly show it that they don't realize

489
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: they're a part of this cellular at a cellular level,

490
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: they are part of the network that sustains and protects

491
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Speaker 1: systemic racism. And the fact that the people participating in

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00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: the you know, quote unquote representation of the people and

493
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: don't realize that they are part of that thing. We

494
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: can never ever expect anything to change because the game

495
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: is set up that those people get to those positions

496
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: to stop the progress. And as much as we want

497
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: to do scream out, well we can do this or that,

498
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: show me where it's happening, because all I'm seeing is

499
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: the fact that this this state is that's just an

500
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: absolute catastrophic failure and a perversion of what anything should

501
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: look like remotely looking like an organized government. I think

502
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: we're at this with industrial manufacturing and with the way

503
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: we govern and organize ourselves a society. These that like,

504
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: as humans, we've come to new places where we have

505
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: to start asking questions like just because we can should

506
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: we like, you know, do we need to make swippers

507
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: when we have them up? Like evaluating our choices now

508
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: that we've created that this false resource abundance, you know,

509
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: how do we reconcile with all these options and what

510
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: we could and couldn't be doing. It's why Elon Musk

511
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: is landing two rockets while they're still hungry people living

512
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: outside in the same communities where Elon Rusku is landing Rusk,

513
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I think that better is landing those rockets. It's that's

514
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: madness that we can't reconcile. And the same thing is

515
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: happening with governing, where every system, philosophical or governmental system

516
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Speaker 1: that we have created depends on good actors, and as

517
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: soon as bad actors enter the picture, they are all ruined. Democracy, capitalism, communism, socially,

518
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Speaker 1: whatever way you want to organize yourself. Humans have not

519
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: built a correct uh a mechanism that works that we

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00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: also feel is just to manage bad actors within social

521
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: contracts anywhere. And it's why you can point to free

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00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: system of government and say they don't work, because we've

523
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: not gotten to this place philosophically, where as like a

524
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: community of humans, we're having this conversation about how we

525
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: manage bad actors and systems that can't sustain with them

526
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: because none of them can. You know, you can choose

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00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: to be a good actor in capitalism and you will

528
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: never make as much money as your competitors, and that

529
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: is like a perfectly acceptable loss. But as long as

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: there is the option for you to get devoured, then

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00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: it is a tough system. You know, people who make

532
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: other choices have to respect yours, and they don't because

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00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: those are bad actors. We're not good at this um

534
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: and it is a critical reconciling point because that resource

535
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: abundance that is so scarce, it's going to start putting

536
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: so much pressure on the governmental systems that we created.

537
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: And we don't have good mechanisms to answer these questions.

538
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: And it's a big mature conversation that we need to

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00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: have as like a species about how we organized. And

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: I don't you know, to say that we're ready for

541
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: that is uh whatever we is even Yeah, but it's

542
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna happen no matter what. The conversation is going to continue,

543
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: whether we have it, it's gonna happen all around us.

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00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: Pandemics storms. Yeah, people have to be most active. Yeah,

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I think active and actually critics being critical and their

546
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: analysis of it and trying to actually have the imagination

547
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: for how to move forward, because it just ends with like,

548
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: how could you what else are you gonna do if

549
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: there's no cops? Like, it's that's not don't just end

550
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: it there. Actually think what is the root of crime?

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00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: What does it mean to commit a crime? How is

552
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: the crime defined? What are the motivations of a person

553
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: to go to break the law. Because there's a version

554
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: of it where you can have a suit on and

555
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: do it with a smile and it's all good because

556
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: it's non violent. But when you talk when you strip

557
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: someone down to their basic levels of humanity where food

558
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: or other things and have to happen you, that's that's

559
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: where we're creating the chaos of lack. And if we

560
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: don't address the chaos of lack, there will be no stability.

561
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: And then we can keep following into the same pattern

562
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: of you know, just creating creating revenue for the problem,

563
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: which is what we do here. It's not to solve

564
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like, well, how do we create more

565
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: revenue for the problem, in this case policing, And we'll

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00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: call it. We'll call it solutions or reforms because at

567
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's just more revenue for

568
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: that thing. Policing is a part of the military industrial

569
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: that's the game the whole time. Yeah, is just create

570
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: conflict so that you could fund conflict and spend stability.

571
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: Don't make money. Yeah, there's no profit in peace, So

572
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: why the fund are we going to do it? And

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00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: that's where we need to ask ourselves as people, Well,

574
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: what the fund is profit? If we can't have peace?

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00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: To put myself on the ground, like and I don't

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00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: mean to imply thank you, because I like going to

577
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: space with these thoughts because these are big questions. But

578
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: on the ground, like police, that is, those aren't bad actors.

579
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: That is a bad system. There's no way that policing

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00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: as it exists in this on tree could be reformed

581
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: to like accommodate or mitigate bad actors. It was a

582
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: bad tree like that. One's just gotta go period. Uh.

583
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, there's what do we do without police?

584
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like we don't understand who's stealing from us, and

585
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: we don't understand that it's not punished, and we don't

586
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: understand who to be afraid of wind up afraid of

587
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: each other. So false. Simplest thought experiment is like, are

588
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: you afraid to walk through Beverly Hills? Now? I mean granted,

589
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: I mean as a person of color. That's a whole

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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: other conversation. But in terms of what you think the

591
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: risk is to your personal body walking through Beverly Hills,

592
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: is that high risk to you? And the chances The

593
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: reason why it isn't is because you're dealing with a

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: group of people who are well, unfortunately on another side

595
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: of of having abundance, but they aren't experiencing lack. So

596
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: the things that you need isn't the same set of

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00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: stressors on people that exists there, and that's why they

598
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: don't need We're not We're not applying to same logic

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00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: of like people who are supported, are fulfilled, are happier

600
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: or and have stability or support can actually live a

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00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: good life of of peace and love. Every neighborhood that

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00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: you can't walk through is supporting Beverly Hills. Like mid

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00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: City you can't walk through because all the people who

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00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: work in Beverly Hills to make that livable and support

605
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: those people live in Mid City. And I apologize jumping in.

606
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: It just hurt because I lived on that line where like, no,

607
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: there's a line where supported people are in they aren't.

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00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: Now we don't connect the violence of that Beverly Hills

609
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: neighborhood to the one next to it. We don't see

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: them as the same. But like when you're sitting in

611
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: that comfort, you are perpetuating a violence somewhere else. We

612
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: just don't recognize it and we don't take accountability for it.

613
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: And we don't see violence the same way when it's

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00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: distributed by that one step of removal, and we don't

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00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: see violence the same way when it's perpetuated by the police.

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00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: That like when you watch the organized response to peaceful protests,

617
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the uniforms blind us to what's happening. That those are

618
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: citizens just like us, and if they were wearing something else,

619
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: this is a war and it's love sided in a

620
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: in a terrifying way. Watching journalists get shot in the

621
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: eyes all year, it's like we don't we're not recognizing

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: where the violence is frightening. And that security you feel

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00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills has a cost, and that cost is

624
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: in other neighborhoods where police are killing people. Because we're

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be afraid of them. I wanted to raise

626
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: this just the specific role of guns. And you know

627
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: that this is by no means like the where where

628
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: the conversation ends on this, but it does seem like

629
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: something that has been bubbling people just saying we'll disarmed

630
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: the police. Disarmed the police, And I don't know why

631
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: that is not more of like if if the police

632
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: didn't have guns, they would what not like chase down

633
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: somebody who they thought had a gun. Fine, that's good.

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Speaker 1: I don't want them to fucking chase down, like get

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Speaker 1: into a shootout that might like cause somebody else to

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Speaker 1: like get hit by a fucking stray bullet. Like the

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00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: things that there there reasons for having guns are all

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Speaker 1: like just living out this fucking macho action hero thing.

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Speaker 1: But like just in terms of the statistics, like we

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Speaker 1: mentioned the police fatally shot a thousand people during the

641
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Speaker 1: fucking pandemic, like close to a thousand people. The people

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Speaker 1: fatally shot forty fifty police officers. In the UK, there

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Speaker 1: have been forty police shootings of civilians since two thousand five,

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Speaker 1: So that's less than three a year. We were close

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Speaker 1: to three a day. Uh in the year the UK

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Speaker 1: averages three a year, and that you know, there are

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Speaker 1: other countries that have varying levels of And the police

648
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Speaker 1: in England are racist as fun, like that is not

649
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Speaker 1: that is not a problem that they have solved. Thirty

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Speaker 1: eight black men are stopped and searched per one thousand,

651
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Speaker 1: compared with four white people per thousand. It's just because

652
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: there's more black people than white people in the UK

653
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Speaker 1: in England right when the cradle of civilization in England.

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Speaker 1: But they just sent a cop to jail for two

655
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Speaker 1: years and three months and his careers over for kicking

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Speaker 1: someone in the knee and breaking their knee, like obviously,

657
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Speaker 1: like he absolutely deserved to be But that feels like

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Speaker 1: the sort of thing that would be a pretty average

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Speaker 1: Monday for a cop in the US, and in fact

660
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: would be something that like a renegade cop would do,

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00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: like Caitlyn. To your point about like media that glorifies

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Speaker 1: like cops and treats them as heroes, it offers that

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Speaker 1: opportunity for someone whose ego has been thwarted by someone

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Speaker 1: else's agency to then override that with violence. And that's

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Speaker 1: the only job you can do. That The only time

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Speaker 1: you say what the fund no now, now, now get

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00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: the funk out the car because I told you to

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Speaker 1: do this, and now I can do this because I'm

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Speaker 1: that's what it allows, and I think that's what it

670
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: attracts so much, and like these media materials are the

671
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: perfect thing to be, like, right, I can't get pushed

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Speaker 1: around when I'm a cop. I do the pushing around

673
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. Right. Countries like Italy, Greece

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00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: again you know, by no means, like are they They're

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00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: nailing it smooth, but they have more They have more

676
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: officers per capita than any US state, but their officers

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00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: aren't armed, and that makes all the difference. Like the

678
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: body count in America's five times higher than in Sweden,

679
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: thirty times higher than in Germany, a hundred times higher

680
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: than the UK, like on a per capita basis, and

681
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: like somebody's uh. This article by Derrick Thompson, who is

682
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: a writer from the Atlantic who I like a lot,

683
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: points out that like they're doing this warrior cop training ship,

684
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Speaker 1: like it's getting extra violent the training of the police

685
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: at a time that violent crime has declined by more

686
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Speaker 1: than seventy since And his argument is basically that we

687
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Speaker 1: should stop thinking about guns as just an acute threat

688
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Speaker 1: and start thinking about them as something more like lead

689
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Speaker 1: poisoning when we had lead you know, lead paint covering

690
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Speaker 1: our entire country and found out, oh ship, it is

691
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: like really, you know, toxicity that builds over decades leads

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Speaker 1: to a host of social and cognitive problems, Like that's

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Speaker 1: what guns do. We have been acquiring the accumulating them

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Speaker 1: for decades and decades, and it needs to stop, like

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Speaker 1: it needs to just go away. And like everybody who

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Speaker 1: argues like you'll never get it to happen, like that's

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it just seems like that it's too

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Speaker 1: clear cut of a problem to just be like, well,

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00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: it's a problem that is too big, so we're not

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Speaker 1: even going to think about addressing it, Like it's the

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Speaker 1: onion ortled call that comes out with every shooting. No

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00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: way to prevent this, says, only nation where this routinely happens, Like,

703
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, the solutions are all around us, and we

704
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: have very very strange racist reasons for clinging to our

705
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: idea of what gunar like guns are what well organized

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Speaker 1: militia is going to keep you safe from the cop dogs.

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00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: Guys like from the Boston dynamics robot warriors that they own.

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Speaker 1: What do you think are you going to scale up

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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: with them? We've stopped, I mean, the it's so trite

710
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: to say that the Second Amendment was written at a

711
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: time when guns were different. But we are now in

712
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: a place where we've stopped asking if we should and

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Speaker 1: just do ship we can. And you know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of what the debate is of what people own, like,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the end game? You know, yeah, what what ownership?

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Speaker 1: What private ownership would keep you safe in a state

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Speaker 1: where the police already set the model for most armed civilians. Right,

718
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Speaker 1: And the Second Amendment is it gives you the right

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Speaker 1: to own and carry a gun. And then but the

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Speaker 1: police have the right to murder you for precise exercising

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Speaker 1: that right. What knowing you could get shot for holding

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Speaker 1: a gun. But that's that sounds like a real good

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Speaker 1: reason for me to not carry a gun, for me

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Speaker 1: to not own a gun is knowing that if I

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Speaker 1: just held it for me. But I mean, yes, certainly

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00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: more risk. People of color. Always always to say that

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Speaker 1: people of color getting hurt by police because they own

728
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: weapons directs the attention off the real issue in a

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00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: sinister way. Weapons have nothing to do with white people

730
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Speaker 1: of color get hurt by police. Air fresheners can do it,

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Speaker 1: so aren't relevant to that conversation. It cannot be so

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Speaker 1: that in a place, in a society where gun ownership

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Speaker 1: is legal and protected, holding a gun is enough reason

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Speaker 1: for someone to kill you. That's not really how it goes.

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Speaker 1: You get one or the other. It's legal to have this,

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Speaker 1: or it is a killable offense. It can't exist as both.

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Speaker 1: That's not a right. It's not free speech. Is like

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Speaker 1: if I can say something as long as it's not

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00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: in front of the wrong person who can then take

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00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: my tongue. That's not how this goes, And even then,

741
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: what is free speech? The Philando Castile killing is a

742
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: really good example of just like the most textbook a

743
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: person could have possibly exercised their second Amendment right. Where

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00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the cop is approaching asked him to take out his

745
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: identification and license and registration, and he says, so, I

746
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: have to tell you I do have a gun on me.

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00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pull it out. The guy immediately

748
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: pulls his gun on him and says, don't pull it out.

749
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Don't pull it out, And he says, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: pull it out. I'm going to get my license and

751
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: registration like you asked me to reaches for that, and

752
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: the guy shoots some seven times. Yeah, look everyone, too

753
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: many people have internalized this white supremacy, this version of

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: what a black person or person of color is or

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00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: other is, which is a violent threat um and that

756
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: sort of lack of nuance and looking at people's humanity

757
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: just it makes it easy to just skip a couple

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Speaker 1: of steps straight to oh this is I'm fighting the

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00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: predator and I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger, Like what the fuck? Guy

760
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: told you? What the fun was going on? But you

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00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: see dark skin, you hear gun, and now you've connected

762
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: all these dots in your subconscious, meaning this person is

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Speaker 1: trying to kill me and now I must act and

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00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: armed with a gun, you walked up to that person's

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Speaker 1: car with a gut Yeah, why was that kid running? Huh?

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00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: I wonder why it was unning? I wonder holding a

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00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: gun on him? Just why so nervous? White? So nervous

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Speaker 1: um Because you're a police officer and I'm pepper spray

769
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: in my eyes and there's gone a gun in your

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00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: other guy, I think you have a gun in my face.

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Speaker 1: You have a gun in my face saying why am

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Speaker 1: I in Silver Lake? Yeah, maybe that's why that seems

773
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: like a weird thing because you said my my plates

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00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: said I bought my car in North Hollywood. That's the

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00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: reason you pulled me over. Huh, that's why. All right,

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00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and

777
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: we're back, and let's talk about Netflix real quick. There

778
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: was an interview with the guy who was calling the

779
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: shots at the time. When is it Is it still

780
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: the same dude? I think so? Yeah, Ted Sranda's yeah, yeah,

781
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: So he someone's interviewed and was like, how did you

782
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: come up with the brilliant idea of binge listening? Like,

783
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: how did you predict that that was the direction people

784
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: wanted to go in with our viewing habits? What like

785
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: what was the stroke of Jack into the matrix and

786
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: then predict this? And his answers, Dude, his answer is

787
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: so fucking like why we just think like these people

788
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: are so next level geniuses and they're just like idiots

789
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: who just fell upon a solution. Yeah, he said, I

790
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: never even thought about it. So the reason they're talking

791
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: was because of House of Cards that before this, they

792
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: were sort of lauding how House of Cards really changed

793
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: the paradigm by dumping it all book. If we're going

794
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: to really speak fact, it's Lily Hammer. Okay, Lily Hammer

795
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: did it first with Steve and DVDs did it first?

796
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh TV marathons of road rules over the weekend. Where

797
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: there are are the four fathers of this ba in

798
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: this sense, he said, talking about House of Cards as

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00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: it was the happy accident of happy accidents. When we

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00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: finished the season the House of Cards, we were about

801
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: to launch, somebody asked how we're gonna put it out.

802
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: We had a meeting and they asked, how are you

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00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: going to release it? I said, how do you mean?

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00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: And they said one week, one a week for a month.

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00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: I said, well, everything on Netflix. We got it a

806
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: season after it was on TV and we put up

807
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: the whole season, and I said, well, we can't have

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00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: one show that comes out one a week and everything

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00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: else all at once, so let's just release it all

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00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: at once. And that's how we That's how we did it.

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00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: I was like casual. The answer was like how that happened?

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00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: As a writer, I want to take a pencil and

813
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: push it directly through my eye creators, how the audience

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00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 1: is going to receive the media. House of Cards happen

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00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: to be an exceptional dingerble show basically a movie made

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00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: by a movie maker. It's like lucky House of Cards.

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00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: But then American TV writers never know how long it's

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00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: gonna go. They don't know really how things are gonna

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00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: air on streamer are so like it is very difficult

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00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: to deliver to the audience and and product when you're

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00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: guessing at how they're going to get it, even more

822
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: than like writing for another director's for director's mission, there's

823
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: like that, but then how does it even get to folk?

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: That's just so frustrating that, like executives don't consider how

825
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: people watch, how we get Breaking Bad the whole season? Okay,

826
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: do same for House Cards A little bit. That that

827
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: wasn't a plan in like the creation of the show

828
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: is crazy that they didn't already Necklace still a mailing

829
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: series you were gonna be sending DVDs out, wasn't one

830
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: you had physical media to make. To make this decision,

831
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: an order had to be made. I think the one

832
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: thing that was probably good on his end was like

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00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: in earlier in this interview, he's talking about like how

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00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: they arrived at making Originals is because they're like ship,

835
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: this is picking up steam and it's good for now.

836
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: But when they realize how much money we're making, all

837
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: of the other studios are gonna start making their own ships.

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00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: So we gotta we gotta get aggressive with originals, Like

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00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: fucking now, that is really you know, a pile of

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00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: cash hit the laundry mat. It's that's like a nice backstory.

841
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: But Netflix isn't a mystery. When you sniff like come,

842
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I like thinking, like it's all it's had to get clean.

843
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: And David Fincher's phone number was on auto Dallas. They're like, hey, man,

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00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: can you can you can you turn this around pretty quick?

845
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: You're like, uh yeah, what's Robin right doing Crown prints

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00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: with a gold DVD on the wall somewhere. Oh yeah, wow,

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Speaker 1: formally becoming this thing. It's like, yeah, this is how

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Speaker 1: like now with binge watching like that was, I was

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Speaker 1: flow of the broadcast schedule, I would quickly become cynical, like, man,

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Speaker 1: funk that show. I don't care, but it's most like

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Speaker 1: to be able to watch at all. HBO still does,

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Speaker 1: still does the weekly thing every once in a while, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do still care about ratings, which is so bizarre

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Speaker 1: to me because I mean, I guess as an elder

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Speaker 1: millennials into everything. Um, we don't care about when something's on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know anybody who isn't a parent of someone

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Speaker 1: my age that is still concerned about when something will

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Speaker 1: come on. Right, what's a watch on demand world? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: being tethered to some day unless like maybe like some

881
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Speaker 1: of the trash reality shows that like I love to

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Speaker 1: watch a second it comes out. But other than that, yeah,

883
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Speaker 1: it's it's completely irrelevant. Parents, haste man, just subscribe. Ma. Well,

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Speaker 1: speaking of parents, you can probably hear a car start

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Speaker 1: outside the garage, which you know, I could be like guys,

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Speaker 1: So sound of a super a roaring in the background. Uh,

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Speaker 1: since I haven't grown anything yet. You failed them, You

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Speaker 1: for les so she can monetize monetize this. Do you

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Speaker 1: still shred Oh yeah, import come on, come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: no idea not doing a pandemic I can't be falling

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Speaker 1: on my coxics and needing the services entire paramedics. Oh yeah,

896
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Speaker 1: I don't do that. Let's talk really quickly about junk

897
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Speaker 1: food vaccination promotions, because the world is dealing with a

898
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Speaker 1: shocking and balance in vaccine distribution. As many as sixty countries,

899
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Speaker 1: including some of the world's poorest, are probably going to

900
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Speaker 1: be stalled at the first shots of the COVID nineteen

901
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: vaccination vaccinations until as late as June because the whole

902
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Speaker 1: delivery process and just capitalists like global market ethos is bullshit,

903
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: meaning is going to come back and give us all

904
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Speaker 1: polio for this, I feel like it's deserved. But meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: in the US, there have been several promotions to encourage vaccination.

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00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: Most famously, Crispy cream is offering a free donut a

907
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Speaker 1: day to get the vaccination, which prompted a backlash since

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Speaker 1: eating a donut a day would yeah, and also be

909
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Speaker 1: more likely to kill you then COVID And then okay,

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Speaker 1: first of all, don't ut a cops are together because

911
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: don'tnut shops are open twenty four hours. That is a

912
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: service to all of us, not just police officers. Anyone

913
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: can go get a donut any time. It is a

914
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Speaker 1: great equalizer and donut shall not be maligned on my watch,

915
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: no way anything. And if a doughnut a day is

916
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Speaker 1: what somebody, If somebody gets a vaccination to get a

917
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Speaker 1: donut today and eat, that person is hungry and there

918
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: are bigger problems to solve it. If were hungry people

919
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Speaker 1: getting food, we don't get to care about what food

920
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Speaker 1: it is. If Krispy Cream is going to do more

921
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Speaker 1: for hungry people that are vaccinated, and then the government

922
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Speaker 1: is then fucking send him a wheel of cheese, then

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Speaker 1: who cool was that? Was like some fitness person who

924
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Speaker 1: was like being like, oh, a donut a day, I

925
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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, Sam Adams jumped in. Uh, Sam Adams

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Speaker 1: is giving people a free punt or free beer for

927
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Speaker 1: getting back for their vaccine cards. Right, It's like we

928
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Speaker 1: literally have to. It's like truly a carrot on a stick.

929
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Speaker 1: People say, hey, hey, vaccine, vaccine, What do you want beer?

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Speaker 1: What do you want donut? They're giving pre rolls with

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Speaker 1: proof vaccination in Michigan. I love it. And in China

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Speaker 1: they're doing by one get one free ice cream cones,

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Speaker 1: and they're doing that in Russia too. You get an

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Speaker 1: ice cream for you got a little treat. It's just

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Speaker 1: the most this story like made me view America like

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Speaker 1: we're like view the world. We're just in a giant

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Speaker 1: skinner box where people are just like where do we

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Speaker 1: move the treats for now? To get the people to

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Speaker 1: move r we want them to vaccine. Think that the

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Speaker 1: Venn diagram of people who get vaccinated for a donut

941
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Speaker 1: is very small. There's a certain vaccinated people and there's donuts,

942
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Speaker 1: and when those that little circle meets, like everybody wants

943
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Speaker 1: a donut. I just love this thing that like a

944
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Speaker 1: donut a year is a funny idea. I don't know

945
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Speaker 1: who's going to take advantage of it, like you go once,

946
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Speaker 1: like you go get your one treat presumably. Yeah, I

947
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: think this is weird. It's very capitalist, just trying to

948
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Speaker 1: get a little like I can see it. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe on my site, show me your vax card ten

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Speaker 1: percent off. I do it. It's like I can see

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Speaker 1: it as a desperate company ploy to like be of

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Speaker 1: this moment in this thing we're all sharing. Yeah, it's

953
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: to generate stories like we're doing right now. It's just fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would love to go to a dispensary that gives

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Speaker 1: me a joint because I'm vaccinated. That feels good. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long year. Yeah Israel. Meanwhile, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: many of the people are already vaccinated. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: get some of the younger people to get vaccinated with

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Speaker 1: with some pop up vaccine centers that have free pizza,

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Speaker 1: that have DJs that they've hired to create a festival atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: They set up one clinic in a literal bar with

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Speaker 1: the promise of free drinks to those who got vaccinated

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Speaker 1: with Apparently they're non alcoholic drinks, but I feel like

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Speaker 1: that comes with a heavy way. Why did you come

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Speaker 1: by the bar? You can get vaccinated and then you're

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Speaker 1: gonna vote for BB all right, because what we're gonna do,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the DJs come by. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be lit, everybody. You gotta come down, all

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Speaker 1: the kids to tell vive ya. Meanwhile, you know they're

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Speaker 1: so they're contriving gimmicks to get people vaccinated, but Palestinians

971
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Speaker 1: have only received enough vaccines for just over four percent

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Speaker 1: of the population. So that's yeah. I Meanwhile, I love

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Speaker 1: the people in Congress will continue to debate. What isn't

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to something else that want.

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Speaker 1: let's push that. Let's push that bill for another minute.

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Speaker 1: Let's yeah, I can't deal with that right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin as always such a pleasure having you on Daily's.

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Speaker 1: It was genuinely fun. Thanks guys. Where can people find

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily

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Speaker 1: It's actually I'm more thinking of like you know, spoken

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Speaker 1: word track, but you know a song Nonethelest by Gil

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Speaker 1: Scott Heron, because while when Caitlin was talking about Elon Musk,

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Speaker 1: you know, landing all these fucking rockets while we still

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Speaker 1: needs to be dealt with, reminds you of you know,

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Speaker 1: really famous piece by Gil Scott Heron called Whitey on

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Speaker 1: always juxtaposing that with all the things we've got going on. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Whitey's on the Moon, I think really underscores just sort

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Speaker 1: of the same frustrations that it's taking us decades to

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Speaker 1: be able to work through or begin to realize. So

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Speaker 1: Gil Scott Heron, so you know some on that album

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Speaker 1: the Revolution begins, but this is called Whitey on the Moon,

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Speaker 1: And you'll find that in the footnotes notes the dailies.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this morning. We're back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will

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