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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Give Them La La Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Did I sound like Heather.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's Oh that's who you were going for? Okay, I thought, Hello,

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Speaker 2: it's juicy scoop. You actually did right there.

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Speaker 1: And every time she does it because I don't listen

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Speaker 1: to very many podcasts, but I listened to hers, and

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Speaker 1: I listen to my own, and I'm like, I always

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Speaker 1: do the intro the same, but then Heather McDonald does

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Speaker 1: hers the same. So I was like, Okay, it's fucking

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Speaker 1: Heather McDonald. I can do the same. If she does

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Speaker 1: the same. People like consistency. They do yeah, And I'm

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Speaker 1: a virgo and if you veer me off the path,

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Speaker 1: I'm not good, not good for my mental So what

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Speaker 1: a fun weekend. We had the Oscars on Sunday. Are

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Speaker 1: you a big Oscars watcher? Be honest.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I am not a big

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Speaker 2: a ward show anything watcher. It's just, yeah, it's hard

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know because I just know that behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes there's like political stuff that goes on. I've just

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Speaker 2: never been a big award show watcher. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the performances and like the fashion and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is fun. And I went to an Oscar watching

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Speaker 2: party and it was so much fun. But yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: About you are you? I'm kind of the same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I can. I can respect the art and all

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Speaker 1: of the hard work that goes into filmmaking or into

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Speaker 1: a song, but award shows are really hard for me

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Speaker 1: to watch because they're very long.

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Speaker 2: There's so long.

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Speaker 1: But this this year's Oscars, Amy Schumer, Regina King, and

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Speaker 1: Wanda Sykes. Yeah, oh my god, they were so funny, hilarious. No,

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Speaker 1: they were amazing, Like they were like they decided to

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Speaker 1: hire three women because it was cheaper than hiring one man, and.

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Speaker 2: I just loved.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought, I thought the Oscars did great this

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Speaker 1: year with like bringing in some fun because I've watched

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Speaker 1: Oscars before and it's super stuffy and yeah, like this

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Speaker 1: looks like torture, Like even the people there look tortured.

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Speaker 2: And the funny, the funniest comedy has that hint of

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Speaker 2: truth behind all of it.

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Speaker 1: It is true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's true, not just a hint that

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Speaker 2: is like wildly true. Yeah, No, they killed it. They

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Speaker 2: were great.

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Speaker 1: They were great Beyonce Slade. But that's like, not a

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Speaker 1: shock to anybody, not.

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Speaker 2: A shock I missed that I showed up at the

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Speaker 2: party late. Shocker Sundays I moved shocked by that, all right, Well,

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Speaker 2: because it's not a shocker, because Sunday's I'm the slowest

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Speaker 2: person you've ever I'm just like Sunday's my day to

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Speaker 2: be slow, to be late, to be like sleeping in.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm useless on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm useless most days.

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Speaker 2: Not true, Okay, wait, so obviously we have to talk

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Speaker 2: about the Oscars moment, the slap heard around the world thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it, but I woke up to a

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Speaker 1: lot of texts that were like, please tell me that

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Speaker 1: see it because I was driving back from Newport Beach

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Speaker 1: right to LA And you were the one that got

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Speaker 1: to tell me because everyone told me do not google it.

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Speaker 1: And I can honestly say I did it. Jessica told me.

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Speaker 1: So you don't get to like so many people were

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Speaker 1: wanting to be the first to tell me to tell you,

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Speaker 1: But why, yeah, why.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting. It's the same energy as like wanting

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Speaker 2: to say, oh, I knew that band before. You knew that, like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, the band's popular now, but I knew them before.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone saw it. I didn't get over it. Get

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Speaker 2: It was so I had was home by then because

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Speaker 2: shocking once again, I left the party early. Yea, But

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Speaker 2: I feel like I did a good job telling you

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Speaker 2: from like a non biased standpoint about how it went down.

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Speaker 2: But it was like it was wild from what I

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Speaker 2: told you. What do you think I mean?

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Speaker 1: Granted they are a bunch of actors, But then granted

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Speaker 1: but good double bustle my face. So I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that Chris Rock would be like, yes, and you're

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Speaker 2: You're meaning like for anyone who says like I think

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Speaker 2: it was set up, are there people that are saying yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well at first it was like at first, like immediately after,

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Speaker 2: come on the Oscars were down in views last year.

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Speaker 2: You don't think they're gonna like.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny how people think. Yeah, And I am

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Speaker 1: not comparing the Oscars to like vander Pump Rules in

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Speaker 1: any in any way, so please know that, okay. But

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Speaker 1: it's like when people say, oh, they did that because

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Speaker 1: like I So for me, it's like, the Oscars aren't

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Speaker 1: going to be like, Okay, someone needs to get beat

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Yeah, you know, like, oh shucks, views

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Speaker 1: are down. No one is going to be assaulted right

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Speaker 1: to bring up the ratings right, right, and if they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen them try and bring up the ratings

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Speaker 2: before and they do their.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that does happen, but that ain't the

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and especially with someone like will Smith, because I

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Speaker 2: think he's always been like he's always seemed to like push,

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Speaker 2: love and push. But I do have to say I

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Speaker 2: think they were both in the wrong. I think they

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Speaker 2: question because I've worked award shows. I've worked many award shows,

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Speaker 2: never the Oscars, and there are rehearsals, there are things

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Speaker 2: I'm like, there wasn't one person who was like, hmm,

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Speaker 2: Jada Pinett Smith has come out and talked about her

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Speaker 2: alopecia and how you know how that's been such a

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Speaker 2: Let's scratch this joke and change it up a little.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, you go what I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's something about talking about someone's physical appearance that doesn't

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Speaker 2: It's hack, it's lazy, it feels lazy.

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Speaker 1: It's lazy. And again it's like Chadwick Boseman and everybody

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Speaker 1: was commenting on his appearance and then he passes away. Yeah, hello,

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Speaker 1: have we not learned anything enough? Of attacking people's whether

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Speaker 3: Stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it feels lazy. The writing of that

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Speaker 2: so smart, writers are very smart. I feel like a

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Speaker 1: Like being a comedian, it's me it's like intelligent work, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: And I just don't understand how In twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: we're commenting on Jada Pinkett. Smith, by the way, is

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Speaker 1: one of very few people that can look so beyond

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Speaker 1: Will maneuver through things is done with such elegance they

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Speaker 1: about the entanglement, how the hell are you making entanglement

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Speaker 1: sound like forty so fucking classy of you? I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, And that's that's why, like I and I

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Speaker 1: but I'm telling you what. There are times where people

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Speaker 1: have done or said things to me and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: And there are things that I've done where people have

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Speaker 1: And there are times I agree. You can't put your

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Speaker 1: which I'm learning is silence and pretending like someone doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: After that, like ha ha ha ha. And then Will

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Speaker 1: Smith never giving Chris Rock the time of day after that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: is the most shade and the most badass thing that

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Speaker 2: Such shade. And also if he didn't want to do that,

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Speaker 2: he would have gotten and this is just in my mind,

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Speaker 2: he would have gotten his moment for justin he wanted

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Speaker 2: be like this is about the Oscar. So grateful, but

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take ten seconds to say what Chris Rock

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Speaker 2: just said about my wife? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the end. You know what, though, can I tell

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Speaker 1: you it's so hard to talk about what you would

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Speaker 1: can't think right, and there's some disconnect between what comes

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Speaker 1: to have happened your brain and your body, Like it's

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Speaker 1: happened to me many many times.

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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred, it's happened to me over way smaller things,

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Speaker 2: so I can't even imagine. And it was on TV

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Speaker 2: Like really you're gonna And then I think that's when

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Speaker 1: So I have. I don't look it up. Now that

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Speaker 1: I know what happened, I will be you doing this today.

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Speaker 2: You have to look it up. You have to look

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Speaker 2: it up because, well simply because I just want to.

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Speaker 1: See your reaction. To be honest, I don't know I have.

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Speaker 1: There's something about someone touching another person that sends me

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Speaker 1: into like I feel ill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the physical like physical harm.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Like I remember driving through this cute, cute fucking neighborhood. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it was so cute, and then I roll up into

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Speaker 1: people filming these two dudes beating each other up, and

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Speaker 1: not cool, this is like, we are not animals. Why

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm the type of person where other people

433
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Speaker 1: that have makeup brands or skincare lines like I don't see.

434
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: I think there's enough for everybody.

435
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: M hm.

436
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, like when you hear like, yes, this business

437
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: is oversaturated, Like no, not really, yeah, not really. I

438
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: encourage if you're interested in something and you want to

439
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: start something, do it. And like there's no such thing

440
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: as too many cooks in the kitchen, Like I want

441
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: to pick your brain, how do you make your brand better?

442
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: I just get inspired by people who are doing the

443
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: damn thing. So he'll be on the podcast. I want

444
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: to remind you guys that I'm going on motherfucking toy

445
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 1: you motherfucking welcome. We're kicking off in Irvine, which I'm

446
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: super excited about, and then the next stop is going

447
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: to be Fort Lauderdale, Florida, which that's going to be

448
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: a vibe. All the Florida dates are going to be

449
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: a vibe. We've got Clearwater Orlando. Then I'm going to Atlanta, Georgia.

450
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: We'll have fun guests there. We'll have fun guests everywhere.

451
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm super excited Nashville, New Orleans, Hugh Austin, and will

452
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: wrap up in Dallas, Texas. So if you want to

453
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: come and play with me, I would love to meet you.

454
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: I would love to have the best time ever with you.

455
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: Go to give Them Live dot com. I really can't

456
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: wait to see you guys there. It is the Give

457
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: Them La La brand new tour and reminder that my

458
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: book Give Them Lala is now available in paperback, which

459
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: is the best day ever for me because I don't

460
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: really enjoy hardcovers.

461
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: Paperback's the best. I've said that I travel with paperback

462
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: constantly because you can just like move it around. It's easier.

463
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: I love folding back. Folding back.

464
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: It shows me how far I'm getting. I'm like, oh,

465
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: now I've got to fold it the other way. Yes,

466
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm so far into it. There's nothing better than flipping

467
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: the page to a paperback book. And this one I'm

468
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: super excited about because it has the stamp on it

469
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: of national bestseller.

470
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: A gorgeous red stamp National bestseller. And also paperback smells better,

471
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: you guys. And if you don't believe me, get my

472
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: paperback book, and like it smells like the library.

473
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just think I'm super proud of the book.

474
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: I really am. And even though there's things in there

475
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: where I'm like, wow, this is like a whole nother lifetime,

476
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: it's just like it's a good read. It's a good read,

477
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: and it's easy. I know you're all shocked by that

478
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: when people say I loved it. I couldn't put it down.

479
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: It was such an easy read. I know they're being

480
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: kind like it was an easy read, because in my

481
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: mind it was just that good. Yeah. But I'm like, no,

482
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: it's like an easy read, you guys.

483
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: No, but it's it's also I'm so sorry, you guys.

484
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kiss Lalla's ass again. It was also just

485
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: a I read it. I got hired with Laala, and

486
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: then that next weekend I was gonna start and so

487
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: I bought the book, read it, and it was a

488
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: very good read. It's like page to page and then

489
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: the chapter ends, and then you're like, but wait, and

490
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop at this chapter because like it's

491
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: a cliffhanger on I go to the next. It's great.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for saying that. I'm very proud of it.

493
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys should buy it, just saying all right,

494
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, you guys should totally buy the paperback of

495
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: my book, just to saying, show your girl a little

496
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: bit more love because I need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

497
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot. What is it with me

498
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: and the singing song? It's because I have a kid, yeah,

499
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: and so everything turns into a song. Anyway, we are

500
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: going to cut to a brake. We'll be right back,

501
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: all right, you guys, we're back, and I think everyone's

502
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: going to freak out because we have Manny. I mean,

503
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: come on, make up by Manny. I've loved you for

504
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: a long time.

505
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. You're so freaking sweet. I really

506
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: appreciate that.

507
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just honest. I just think you're fabulous.

508
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: You're amazing at what you do, and I'm actually in

509
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: awe and inspired with what you've created. So I want

510
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: to deep dive into like when you discovered you were like,

511
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, makeup is my jam and we're running

512
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: with it.

513
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. No.

514
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: So for me, you know, I feel like I started

515
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: in my makeup journey because I started like kind of

516
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: doing drag a little bit.

517
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: Okay, this is like ten years ago.

518
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: So I had done drag a few times for friends

519
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: birthdays or Halloween, and I enjoyed like the aspect of glamming, right.

520
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: I loved glamming getting ready for it, but I didn't

521
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: really love like wearing wigs and dresses and heels and

522
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: nails and all that was just I was like, oh

523
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: my god, this is like a lot. I really like

524
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: the makeup. So the makeup is what kind of stuck

525
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: to me, and I really really enjoyed that aspect of

526
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: the transformation of getting ready. So that's kind of where

527
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: I found like my love of makeup and trying it out,

528
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: and that's like kind of where it really really started me.

529
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 3: Was like, kind of doing.

530
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Speaker 1: Drag, were you always good at it or was it

531
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: something that you like had to work at. I mean,

532
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: you're fantastic at it now, but are you self taught?

533
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: I am.

534
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 4: I'm self taught, like taught on YouTube. I actually so

535
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: for me, it was weird. I actually feel like I

536
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: always had like a very actual affinity for makeup, Like

537
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 4: I was like, I mean my first photo was yeah,

538
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: like they're not good, but I've seen much worse, you

539
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like I wasn't like bad at

540
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: it because I would also watch my mom glam, like

541
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 4: when I was a baby and like when I was

542
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: a little kid, and she would glam in the morning

543
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: and she would glimb every single bation as a glam

544
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: girl too. So I've always just been around it. My

545
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: grandma was a hairdresser. I've always been around like the

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: glam in my life.

547
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, it just kind of came natural to me.

548
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: And where did you grow up?

549
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 3: I grew in San Diego, born and raised Lavissa.

550
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Born and raised San Diego. Talk me through what like

551
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: that was? Like, do they haven't like when you, you know,

552
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: get into your fabulousness and you do drag, Like are

553
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: people looking at you crazy? Because I live I live

554
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: in La I've lived here for quite some time. You know,

555
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: we see drag all over the place and it's fabulous,

556
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: But like, what was it like down there?

557
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: I would only go out and drag in the gay

558
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: area in Hillcrest, which is like the kind of like

559
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: the gay area of San Diego. And I live in

560
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: La now, of course, but I was out there, you know,

561
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: my whole life, and it was honestly being in California.

562
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm so lucky and so blessed being in

563
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: southern California because I feel like I'm in.

564
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: Like this like little liberal bubble.

565
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: Right, and it's like it's not the same as if

566
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: I would go in like let's say, Men of America

567
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: going out and dragging might be a different situation. But

568
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: because it was in San Diego and California, I mean,

569
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I still definitely got like weird stairs,

570
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: especially when I worked at I worked at a Sephora

571
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: and say JC Penny, my first like makeup job was

572
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: a Sephora in said JC Penny. So I worked there

573
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: and I would glam to work, but I would like

574
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: go to the food court to get lunch, right right,

575
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: Those walks from from fucking Jacy Penny all the way

576
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: through the food court were long walk so that people

577
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: be looking at me. They'd be staring at me, like

578
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: very strange, especially like this is like eight years ago. Okay,

579
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: so it just wasn't as seen to see boys with

580
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: beards like wearing makeup, you know, So it definitely was

581
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: like a very weird and odd thing in the beginning.

582
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, you're working at Sephora. Do they glam at Sephora?

583
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Listen to me, I'm a ninet year old. I'm like,

584
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: do they glam in that in that place?

585
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?

586
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: No?

587
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: So you people that station for.

588
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: You, that was like the ultimate class, right. It was

589
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: like every day you have people coming in asking what

590
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: you're wearing. Like that kind of prepped you to be

591
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: this like makeup mogul and starting your own beauty brand,

592
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: which is called Lunar.

593
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: Yes, liter Red. You're absolutely right.

594
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of what kind of started

595
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: me off because I feel like I was working at

596
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: Sephora and SoDC Penny and I was like loving in

597
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: and that's kind of what taught me how to be

598
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: into makeup and skincare and fragrance and that's kind of

599
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, support has everything, right, So I wasn't like

600
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: a melting pot of so much.

601
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: So I learned a lot from there.

602
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: But then I started working at Mac and Mac was

603
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: like more so about like artistry and like teaching me

604
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: how to do makeup. And that's kind of where I

605
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: learned the skills on that spectrum when it came to

606
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: like actually doing makeup. So I was self taught and

607
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: then I started working at these places where.

608
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: I learned more.

609
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: See for me, I'm a one trick pony when it

610
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: comes to my my makeup. I'm like, if we're not

611
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: doing the same thing every day, I don't know how

612
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: to do it.

613
00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: You're over it?

614
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm over it. I've watched a million YouTube tutorials

615
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: on how to contour properly. Manny, I still don't get

616
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: that shit.

617
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: You don't even need to Your cheeks are so good.

618
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, doctor Diamond.

619
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

620
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: Like the baking process. What when someone comes to you

621
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: and they're like, I just want to know an everyday

622
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: look where I can look fabulous. I don't have three

623
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: hours to bake this space. Do you still have these

624
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: tips where it's like, oh, we can glam you in

625
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes.

626
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 4: Like there's always like there's always like little things you

627
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: can do to just amp up your look already, Like

628
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 4: adding blush is a big thing, Like adding a little

629
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: bit of blush gives you like that like kind of

630
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: rosiness back in the face. Adding some Meskira, adding some gloss,

631
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: like doing like little things like that really make a

632
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: huge Adding some concealer, right, make a huge difference to

633
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: make you feel like an elevated version of yourself. So

634
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: there's definitely like little tips and tricks you can do

635
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: to make it look like, Oh, you put some work in, Like,

636
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: for example, what I have on right now five minutes Max.

637
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: What do you have on right now? Because you look amazing?

638
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

639
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: I really I just have like a tinte moistriiser on

640
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: a little me con See, there's some blush, some faux freckles.

641
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: It's some gloss and some gloss.

642
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: Always have to have the gloss. I love that you're

643
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: talking about blush because most people, at least for me

644
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: and people that I've spoken to, when you think about blush,

645
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: like I think about my mom and her friends going

646
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: to clinique and getting that like bright pink blush, and

647
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, this is terrifying. Like what

648
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: type of hue do you look for in your blush?

649
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Speaker 1: Does it all depend on your skin tone? Because I

650
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Speaker 1: tend to gravitate towards more of like a purple hue

651
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Speaker 1: rather than the pink undertones. Yes, but like, how does

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Speaker 1: someone choose a blush?

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Speaker 4: Well, for me, I'm so all about, like, bitch, whatever,

654
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Speaker 4: whatever the fuck you want to wear, you know, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: if you want to wear an orange blush and you're

656
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Speaker 4: pale as hell and wear the orange blush like, I

657
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Speaker 4: don't care.

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Speaker 1: I love you for that, that's a no.

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Speaker 3: I love you too.

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Speaker 4: But so for me, when it comes like, let's say

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Speaker 4: color theory, if you really want to like get into it,

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Speaker 4: I would say, for like fairer complexions like mine, sticking

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Speaker 4: to like lighter pinks look really really good because it

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Speaker 4: just kind of looks more natural, can you know? The

665
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Speaker 4: more medium, more tanned, sticking to more orange undertones look

666
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Speaker 4: really really nice on that complexion. So and like if

667
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Speaker 4: your deeper, deeper in complexion, purples look really really good.

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Speaker 3: So it just kind of.

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Speaker 4: Depends on your scene tone in that way. But I'm

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Speaker 4: so all about, like I literally don't care, like what's

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Speaker 4: meant for my I will wear orange blushes, I'll wear

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Speaker 4: purple blushes, I'll wear pinky blushes.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't mind. I think for me, as long

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Speaker 3: as I want to wear it, I'm gonna wear it.

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Speaker 3: I love that, but really want it to be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: what's works for me?

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Speaker 4: You know a little bit more of pinky undertone because

678
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Speaker 4: it's like cool tone, right, if your cooler tone pinks

679
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: more cool tone than orange.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so if you're warmer, the orange works better.

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Speaker 1: Judging me through a zoom call, should I be avoiding

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Speaker 1: the purply undertones?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should be avoiding them.

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Speaker 4: I just think that if you wore like I would

685
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Speaker 4: say for your scene to I think like the like

686
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Speaker 4: apricot orange tones would look really really pretty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can mess with that, but I love it.

688
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Speaker 1: I'm the same way, Like I feel like if someone

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Speaker 1: walks out of the house and everyone around is thinking

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Speaker 1: like this is not a good look, but that person

691
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Speaker 1: feels beautiful and amazing, I'm like, let let the motherfucker live.

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Speaker 3: No, literally, like, let that bitch live. That's how I

693
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Speaker 3: feel too.

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Speaker 4: And I'll see it's so funny obviously on TikTok, Like

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Speaker 4: I'll be scrolling on there and then I'll someone put

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Speaker 4: together like the wackiest outfit ever and they love it.

697
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Speaker 4: So much, and I'm just like, go you right, I

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Speaker 4: would never wear it, But I'm like, as long as

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Speaker 4: you're happy, like you rock that shit, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, rock that shit. I want to deep dive into.

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Speaker 1: First of all, your YouTube channel. Your views are insane,

702
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Speaker 1: Oh thank you? How much time and commitment does it

703
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Speaker 1: take to build that? I mean even your Instagram is insane,

704
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Speaker 1: your following is insane. Like how much time do you

705
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Speaker 1: take on a regular basis to just bang out content

706
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Speaker 1: and looks like it looks exhausting and I'm fucking inspired

707
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Speaker 1: and proud.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it definitely it takes time. I'm not

709
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Speaker 3: gonna lie like it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be like, oh my god, it's so

711
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Speaker 4: hard when it's like there are harder jobs out there,

712
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, Right, But it definitely does take

713
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Speaker 4: a lot of time. It takes a lot of you know,

714
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Speaker 4: energy to like put yourself into doing these situations, putting

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Speaker 4: yourself into the content because you want to be the best.

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Speaker 3: It can be, you know, of course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean I've been doing it for so long,

718
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Speaker 4: since I was fourteen, so I've just been doing it

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Speaker 4: for a good amount of time. I've kind of like

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Speaker 4: have a rhythm down where it's like, Okay, I have

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Speaker 4: like my content days where I'll be like filming a

722
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Speaker 4: YouTube video, but I'm also going to like double dip

723
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Speaker 4: and off on like an Instagram reel, but also to

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Speaker 4: film with TikTok at the same time, just so I

725
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Speaker 4: can like kind of get multiple things done instead of

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Speaker 4: it just being like one after the other after the other.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm like, no, I get busy. I have to

728
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Speaker 4: like double dip when I'm doing content nowadays.

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Speaker 1: Right, kill two birds or multiple birds with one stone? Yes?

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Speaker 3: All five birds?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Five birds? Yeah. Do you do multiple looks? Because

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. A lot of your looks are quick.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're like you're taking your face which is

734
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Speaker 1: then turned into a canvas and painting something beautiful onto it. Right,

735
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Speaker 1: do you do multiple looks in one day? No? Fuck? No?

736
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Speaker 4: I literally like no, no, no, you get the one

737
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Speaker 4: and that's all you get.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I look at your videos and I'm like,

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: these are so spectacular. I first of all, I wouldn't

740
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Speaker 1: even know where to start. So you you've built something

741
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: incredible for yourself, and now you have lunar beauty. I

742
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: want to know anything and everything there is to know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, Lunar Beauty has been like my passion

744
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: project for years, right, I've been I've had it for

745
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Speaker 4: years now and twenty eighteen, and it's just been like

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Speaker 4: the coolest journey I've ever had because I've done collaborations

747
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Speaker 4: with brands like I BET where it's like many Inuit

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Speaker 4: X blank with the brands, and that's kind of where

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Speaker 4: I have my passion for creating makeup specifically, And I

750
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Speaker 4: was like, this is like my I feel like I'm

751
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Speaker 4: a Pokemon evolving. I'm like, I want to go to

752
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Speaker 4: the next thing, you know. And so it was like

753
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 4: creating content was fun and I absolutely love it, and

754
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 4: I still do that, but creating like product where people

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Speaker 4: can actually enjoy it and they know that I put

756
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Speaker 4: like my heart and soul into it, I just think

757
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Speaker 4: that's so fun, you know, And I think that's it's

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Speaker 4: probably one of the best things I've ever done with

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Speaker 4: my life, because it truly is like such a passion

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Speaker 4: of mine right to create makeup.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense, you would, I mean, who knows makeup

762
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: better than you? You're putting it on every day, I'm

763
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: sure you can tell and you know, I have my

764
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: beauty brand as well. It really is. It's a passion project.

765
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Speaker 1: And you know, I can tell that you're like me,

766
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Speaker 1: I'm not just going to put something out that I

767
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Speaker 1: haven't tried, that I haven't formulated on my own exactly right.

768
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Speaker 1: So I get that whole process, and I love that

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Speaker 1: you go through that same process as well. What did

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Speaker 1: you start with, Like when you first launched? What did

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Speaker 1: you have? So?

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Speaker 4: For me, I started off with a product called Life

773
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: of Drag and it was a drag inspired palette because

774
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, my makeup journey started in drag. So it

775
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: was like this half neutral, half bold kind of palate

776
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: like anyone can kind of create anything. That was the

777
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: whole point of it, right, And so I was kind

778
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: of like an ode to like my beginning, right, It's like, okay,

779
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Speaker 4: LiF's of Drag. It was really fun and it had

780
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Speaker 4: like my eyes on it and drag and it was

781
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 4: really cute for me. That was like my first wife

782
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: was the first thing was that n shot of palette,

783
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Speaker 4: you know, and so people loved it. They loved the formulation,

784
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: you know, I worked. So I mean for me, like

785
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Speaker 4: I literally am a beauty groul. I test product for

786
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: a living. Right, that's literally what I do. So I

787
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: think that a lot of people can put their trust

788
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Speaker 4: in me when it comes to products that I create.

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Speaker 3: Souse, I'm like, yo, I literally do this for a living,

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: And if you trust my.

791
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: Opinion, and if you think that I like good shit

792
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: and I'll find good shit for you, then I'll make

793
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: good shit.

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Speaker 1: Too, of course.

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Speaker 4: So that's of what it kind of started as I'm

796
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: like passionate about this, I test make it for a living.

797
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: You can trust that if I'm testing this all the

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00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: time and I like it and it's good, chances are

799
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Speaker 4: you're gonna like it a lot too.

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Speaker 1: Of course, because you, like you said, you're a makeup guru,

801
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: so you would know what people want to put on

802
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: their face. Right, where did the name come from?

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00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: So I feel like for me, like I've always been

804
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: more inspired at nighttime, Like I'm like a night person.

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm not really like a morning person. I'm very much

806
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 4: like I'll be awake late and like wake up late.

807
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Speaker 4: So it's like for me, I've always just felt more

808
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: inspired at night time, Like I felt a lot of

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Speaker 4: ideas come at nighttime.

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Speaker 3: And I was also hu trying to see the Moon when.

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Speaker 4: I was younger, and it was like my favorite anime

812
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: growing up, and so like the whole idea of like

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00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: seeing Moon and like the nighttime, and so Lunar Beauty

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: kind of just came to be when I was like, listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have a bitch that's going to be

816
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: like like naming it after like man emuait beauty.

817
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: Like I'm just like not like that, right.

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Speaker 4: I wanted it to be its own thing in a

819
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: weird way, you know where I was like, I wanted

820
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Speaker 4: to do this sur vibe on its own, like and

821
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Speaker 4: if people, let's say people didn't like me, but if

822
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: you saw Lunar Beauty on its own, you can be like,

823
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: oh wow, this brand is sickening without me being attached totally.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was like I was creating this umbrella

825
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: and wanted a bunch of things underneath it, and so

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Speaker 1: it was just like everything is give them Laala, So

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Speaker 1: it's give them Laala beauty, and right right, it's great.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And the part where we get to

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Speaker 1: like pick the packaging. I love that we can bond over.

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Speaker 3: This, right Yeah, no, seriously, it's the best.

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00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: It's the best. And the naming of the products, and

832
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: then people that write like all of their reviews and

833
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: you're just excited. So I totally get that entire process

834
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: and you're killing it and I'm so honored to have

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Speaker 1: you on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. No, it really is fun.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have a beauty brand, like you know,

838
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Speaker 4: it's just a fun thing.

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Speaker 1: It is fun, like a gott project. It is, and

840
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: you wake up every day and you're excited to work

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Speaker 1: Like that was my main thing. As my dad always said,

842
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: make sure you find something that you love to do

843
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 1: and make that your job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'm proud of us both.

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Speaker 3: It's hard work, but does it feel like you're dragging on?

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00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Right? You're enjoying yourself. So my listeners, I'm assuming and

848
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Speaker 1: if they're not like me, I'm sure there's a few

849
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: that are like me, where I'm like, yeah, I think

850
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Speaker 1: I know how to put my face together, but like,

851
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Speaker 1: what are some of your biggest makeup tips that you

852
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Speaker 1: see out there? And you're like, oh, good lord, if

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00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: I could just teach them how to do these simple

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Speaker 1: things to like really bring this together.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I think a really big thing

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Speaker 4: is about being hydrated on the skin, Like that's like

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Speaker 4: a huge thing that a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of people like will kind of negate.

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Speaker 4: Like a lot of times people won't really use an

860
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: I cream in the morning before they probably concealer and

861
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: it looks kind of cracky and kaki under the eyes,

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Speaker 4: or you know, not drinking enough water in your skin

863
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: looks really dry and thirsty, things like that. I think

864
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 4: that the importance of like hydration, using like a really

865
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: dewey setting miss at the end after everything's set in

866
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: place to kind of give you that like healthy glow.

867
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 4: I think it's really important to kind of bring the

868
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 4: skin back. A lot of people will like set their

869
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: face with powders and then leave it at that, and

870
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, you might want to bring you know, a

871
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: little bit of moisture back in just to kind of

872
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: make it not look so dry and make a bee

873
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: and heavy.

874
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, like get rid of the cake.

875
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: Look Honestly, like a huge scan of setting sprays, whether

876
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: it's longer ones, you know, moisturizing ones, dewey ones. Just

877
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: kind of adding that as a final step really does

878
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: make a massive difference on the skin, especially when it

879
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: comes to like, you know, wanting to look more on

880
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: the natural side. Because obviously the skin naturally has a

881
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: little bit of a do has a little bit of glow,

882
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: has a little bit of.

883
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: A something to it.

884
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you take that away and it becomes

885
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: all mad only it's like it's a little.

886
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Jarring, you know, Right, what about your tips for contouring?

887
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: Can you tell them obsessed with the contouring? I love

888
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: a good bone structure, No, I love, I love. Can

889
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: you teach me, like, do you prefer a powder over

890
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: a cream when it comes to contract book? Both? Okay,

891
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: walk me through.

892
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: So I always like, let's say I'm trying to find

893
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: an example. I have like this product from Patrick Tod

894
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: it's like a cream and powder.

895
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 3: At the same time.

896
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Oh.

897
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 4: So what I like to do is like, let's say

898
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 4: if I take my like a brush, right it's on

899
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: my Luna Beauty brushes, and.

900
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: If I'm going from the top of my ear down to.

901
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: My mouth, like if there's like an advisable line here, Okay,

902
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 4: that's why I would probably place my product.

903
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: All right, So I've already fucked up because.

904
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: That's like where like that's like kind of like where

905
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 4: it's like kind of just there, like that's where your

906
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 4: bone is.

907
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Like you feel like your bone, and then there's like

908
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of like an indentation, sort of like you feel

909
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Would you place it that's where

910
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: it would go.

911
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll place like right there.

912
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, right at the bottom of it, right

913
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: at the bottom of like the cheek bone, and then.

914
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: Blending and then always blending upwards, blending up.

915
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: So I fucked up twice. Uh huh.

916
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: So you're gonna blend the contour up instead of it down.

917
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: Why is that?

918
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: Because you want to.

919
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 4: Give it a lift so instead of like bringing If

920
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: you bring it down too far, it kind of drags

921
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: your face a little lower. But if you kind of

922
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: lift up and you go higher, it's gonna give a

923
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: little bit more of a raised appearance. So I'll use

924
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: cream first and then I'll set it with the powder

925
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: so when you take photos, it doesn't get washed out

926
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: when it's only powder. A lot of times you take

927
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: a photo, it'ld be like washed out because it's like

928
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: just powder on the skin, But a cream underneath the

929
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: powder really reinforces the color.

930
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you do the cream over your foundation

931
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: or do you build around or do the foundation?

932
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Either, that's like that's sort of those steps like

933
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: where it's just like personal preference.

934
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 4: As long as a product is down, I will so

935
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: I'll do I'll do foundation, and then I go right

936
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: into bronzing before I even do concealer and stuff like that.

937
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: So I'll go right into cream right after I do

938
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: my foundation.

939
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Okay, And let me ask you this the contouring of

940
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: the forehead, you know, how they go bring it up?

941
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: Where where is it supposed to be placed?

942
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: So actually, like a lot of people like, it's kind

943
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: of depends on like the face shape.

944
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: Okay.

945
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: For me personally, I like to make my face just

946
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: like a little smaller, you know, I want it to

947
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: be a little more feminine, a little bit more honed in.

948
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: So I like to it all around my temples. Okay,

949
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: an imagine it's like going all around okay, because I

950
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: wanted to look small. I wanted to be honed in

951
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: here and like really bright in the center. So I

952
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: literally do forehead temples and into the cheek. But it depends,

953
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 4: like it's say, if you have a square forehead, you

954
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: might want to just cut off here maybe give you

955
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 4: like that kind of oval face. If you have more

956
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: of a heart shape, just kind of putting it up

957
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: here to kind of.

958
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: Like right right where the hairline is one like the temples.

959
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

960
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: So for me, because I'm a man and I have

961
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 4: a bigger face, I want to kind of make it

962
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: a little bit smaller, a little more oval. So that's

963
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: why I put it there.

964
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: Yes, give them that oval snatched love.

965
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm trying to get that over like that like

966
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: little oval appearance. But and if you.

967
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: Want that pulled out look, which a lot of people

968
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: really love to, you do conto right here on the

969
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 4: sides of the brow into the hairline, and then you

970
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: leave this for concealer.

971
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you would take like the end of

972
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: your your eyebrow right yep, and then the concealer right

973
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: underh okay, yeah, give you.

974
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Give you that sweeped back look.

975
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: Oh, give you that little bella hadid action with the eyes.

976
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah exact.

977
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: A lot of people are really really into that look

978
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: right now too, which totally makes sense.

979
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: That's gorgeous. Yeah, kind of leaving this part open for concealer.

980
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we can all avoid like threading our

981
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: faces or having injections, you know, right. I feel like

982
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: you can do so much with makeup, so many people

983
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: are like, Laala got a nose job. I'm like, bitch,

984
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: I learned how to contour that motherfucker.

985
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

986
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: No, literally, I'm again a huge fan of conjuring my

987
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: nose or I'll put like freckles down it to make

988
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: it look smaller. Love love love making it look those

989
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: small little baby nose.

990
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: Yes, there's so much you can do with makeup where

991
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't. I'm not knocking injections. Lalla loves

992
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: her injections, right, but you can do so much with

993
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: just like learning the technique of makeup totally.

994
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: I mean that's literally like I built my entire career.

995
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, is making up so Yeah? Like manny, I can

996
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: give myself some like pretty killer blow job lips with somelipliner.

997
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: Oh my god, of course, are you kidding me? Some

998
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: d yes, I do that. I always overdraw my top

999
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: lip too.

1000
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: Always before I let you go? Where can people purchase

1001
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: your makeup? I know that most of my listeners don't

1002
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: live under a rock and know exactly where to find you,

1003
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: but still tell us anyway where we get your makeup.

1004
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: Where we find.

1005
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 4: You you can litery dot com. Okay, you know I'm

1006
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: like a direct to commerce kind of website. And then

1007
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: for me, if you man in, you a seven three three.

1008
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Like on all platforms, all platforms.

1009
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: Do you find me on? Yeah, Instagram, TikTok.

1010
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: You know, as a social media and poser, like I

1011
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: got them all, you got them all, I got them all.

1012
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: Damn it.

1013
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I deleted the Twitter because people were mean and I

1014
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 1: was like, this is hurtful. I'm deleting this ship.

1015
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: I'm over. I don't want to see this anymore.

1016
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: I was done with it.

1017
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: No, I feel you.

1018
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you are a motherfucking vibe.

1019
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: We're both vibes.

1020
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: We are a vibe today, got a vibe. I am

1021
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: so happy that I got you on the podcast.

1022
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

1023
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh I'm going to be blowing up your d ms

1024
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: asking you for all the tips. You know.

1025
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: I'm a I have a podcast too. I'm obsessed with podcasts.

1026
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: Like it's been a newer journey for me. It's called

1027
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: full coverage. Oh l coverage me my best friend, Like

1028
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: we do like a little like every single week like

1029
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: podcast kind of thing.

1030
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And what do you guys talk about?

1031
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: Like all things beauty or just anything and everything.

1032
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: No, actually we talk about like kind of current events,

1033
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 4: social media, what's happening in the space, like kind of

1034
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: talking about like all the tea going on. We do

1035
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: talk about beauty, of course, but for example, one of

1036
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: our last episodes about like the whole Kanye, Kim, Julia Fox,

1037
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: Pete Davidson like situation.

1038
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a whole nother podcasts.

1039
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: And literally that's my podcast.

1040
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: Literally I love it. Thank you so much, Manny, And

1041
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: let's be in touch because you're going to teach me

1042
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: how to do all the things makeup that I've obviously

1043
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: been fucking much.

1044
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: I will, and you're going to learn quick I can tell.

1045
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, babe, you're the best. And we'll talk to

1046
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: talk to Bye bye