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Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: Holly rights are I feel the dispute, the subject line,

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Speaker 2: Disney dispute, the direct TV. I feel the dispute at

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Speaker 2: this time. It's not just a coincidence. No Disney, no ESPN,

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Speaker 2: and more importantly, no ABC affiliates. The presidential debate is

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night on ABC. It's not tomorrow night, it's a

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Speaker 2: week from tonight. I could be wrong, but this just

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Speaker 2: seems like all part of the plan to hide Kamala.

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Speaker 2: Over eleven million people cannot watch the debate, and I

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Speaker 2: am one of them. I love your thoughts, and I

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Speaker 2: feel like people should be talking about this.

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Speaker 1: One of the.

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Speaker 2: One of the most common refrains I get from people

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Speaker 2: is I feel like people should be talking about this.

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Speaker 2: When would they talk about the three hundred things that

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Speaker 2: are all going crazy right now? I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: to cut through because there are so many things.

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Speaker 1: I literally have.

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Speaker 2: Over one hundred clips of audio I want to get

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Speaker 2: to from just the last few days, and every single

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Speaker 1: So I understand the frustration. I do.

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be the end of

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Speaker 2: Direct TV, which had begun a slow and steady constant decline.

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Speaker 2: I think I read they were down forty percent in subscribers.

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Speaker 2: And my guess is this is probably the It's not

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the end, it's the end of the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the end, and it just goes downhill from

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Speaker 2: there because you can take away people's programming, but you

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Speaker 2: cannot take away their sports programming. You just you cannot

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Speaker 2: do that. Let's go to Ducky, Ducky, you're on the

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Speaker 2: Michael Berry Show. Ramon passed me a note that says

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Speaker 2: that you just got out of prison after thirty six years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in twelve days. Let's not forget that. With thirty

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Speaker 3: six years and twelve days.

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Speaker 1: Which prison were you in?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was at first, I was it well, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I was at the United States Penitentiary in Beaumont. Then

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Speaker 3: I prolled out of the medium. I'm under the pro law.

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Speaker 3: I'm the pro I seen the United States pro Commissioner

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Speaker 3: and they give me a pro date. They let me out.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's back track and establish some facts. What

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Speaker 2: was the original crime you committed that got you incarcerated?

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Speaker 3: Okay, conspiracy to manufacturer imfeted me And.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and you were so you pled out from something else.

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Speaker 2: That's a lesser charge than you originally were charged with.

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Speaker 3: No, I went to a ten week jury trial.

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Speaker 1: And what year were you convicted? Eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: I got arrested August seventh, August seventeenth, nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: And I got convicted April eleventh, nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: April eleventh, nineteen eighty nine, all right, And then you

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Speaker 2: were sent to the Styles unit in Beaumont.

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Speaker 3: No. I was sent to first off, I was given

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Speaker 3: eighty years. By the end, this is a federal prison term.

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Speaker 3: And I was given eighty years. And they sent me

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Speaker 1: And how long were you there?

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Speaker 3: I was there from nineteen eighty nine till nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Seven, all right, and then where.

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Speaker 3: And then they sent me on an administrary transfer to

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Speaker 3: the United States Penitentiary at Levemore.

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Speaker 1: Kansas, from ninety seven to win till ninety nine, okay,

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Speaker 3: From there I went from USP Elevenmore to the United

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Speaker 3: To two thousand and eight?

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Speaker 1: All right? And then where.

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Speaker 3: From two thousand and eight to two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 3: I was at FCI Medium Beaumont, all right? Then, and

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, the medium you're Drew Clarafan.

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Speaker 3: And I was there from nineteen I mean, I was

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Speaker 3: I was at Three Rivers FCI in South Texas.

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Speaker 3: I was just there eight months. I was only made

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Speaker 3: Penitentiary in that water, California.

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Speaker 2: Duckie, Can we just assume they're all US penitentiary so

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay we can. I mean I got out from

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Speaker 3: Okay, eighteen to twenty, I was at Beaumont USP Beaumont, Well.

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Speaker 3: And then I went to the medium across the street

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Speaker 3: Since the twenty eighth to August?

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Speaker 1: Oh? You really did?

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Speaker 3: About five days? I email. I texted you the first

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Speaker 3: So I sent you an eight to this phone number,

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Speaker 3: and I sent you an email telling you I just

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Speaker 1: How'd you get an iPhone?

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Speaker 3: Well, my best friend lives down there in Spring and

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Speaker 1: How nice is that's a good friend.

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Speaker 3: They will. Well, I've known him since nineteen sixty five,

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Speaker 1: And so where is that where you're living?

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm in Hutchings, Texas at the Halfway House.

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Speaker 3: August? I mean November nineteenth is the day the pro

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Speaker 2: So doucky, I'm guessing if they gave you eighty years

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Speaker 2: originally for this manufacturer amphetamines.

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Speaker 1: You were running.

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Speaker 1: So you say the Mexican stole our drug making too.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, of course, you know, well what it used

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 1: This He is Shirley Q. Look alive from the prison yard.

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Speaker 6: I've been here all morning, supposed to get here for

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Speaker 6: supposed to let Watu sit out to day. To me,

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Speaker 6: she's just not some of the inmate hunting. She is

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Speaker 6: also my good friend.

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Speaker 3: She is.

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Speaker 6: Bless her heart. She been in there serve in thirty

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Speaker 6: I bet she love a cold mountain liquor.

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Speaker 7: She sure would.

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Speaker 6: I'll drive her to the nearest seven the laugh, get

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Speaker 6: I love wat Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: She stick with me.

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Speaker 6: She said making license plates was hard, but not as

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. I'm just glad that you is

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Speaker 6: Had some cigarettes from Nihilator, mister goodbart. I had a

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Speaker 2: That's a real friend whose wife shows up at the

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know the hell.

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Speaker 3: I've known him since I was five years old. It's

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Speaker 1: How did they arrest you?

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Speaker 3: Uh, well, they had surveillance over a period of about

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Speaker 3: I thought you sell them kids down there. It ain't

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Speaker 1: And that's who was running the distribution, or.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just give him. I'd have guys that would

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Speaker 3: They still had a chemical house down there in Houston

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's sad about this, ducky is I

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Speaker 2: Your ministry is powerful.

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Speaker 1: Testand away. Tragic story.

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Speaker 2: Ninety year old World War Two veteran murdered during a

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Speaker 2: You put the turds in prison, you leave the good

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Speaker 5: Story Sunday service at Southwest Church of Christ off to

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Speaker 7: Our dear friends, our beloved brother, Nelson Becketts died yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 4: That just.

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Speaker 8: That was just beyond me.

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Speaker 5: The dadly carjacking happening right outside Beckett's apartment building, his

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Speaker 8: With total shock, I'd seen him on Wednesday. He was ninety,

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Speaker 3: He was just.

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Speaker 5: The shooter on the run, but Sandiford is confident whoever

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Speaker 2: The story of Ducky a few minutes ago, guy who

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Speaker 2: means to take up a space in prison that could

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Speaker 2: saying you encourage the manufacture of amphetamines. I'm not, but

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Speaker 2: I'm saying you should have proportionality in your sentencing. You've

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Speaker 2: criminal justice reform makes them out to be the victim.

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Speaker 2: They'll find whoever killed this man, They'll find him. They

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Speaker 2: and he's committed other violent crimes before. Commissioner Tom Ramsey

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Speaker 2: We were talking earlier about the firing of Harris County

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Speaker 2: did you have a sense, because as you've pointed out,

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Speaker 7: Well, I knew that there was a problem when and

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Speaker 7: thanks for having me, Michael, I knew there was a

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Speaker 7: It just clearly raises all kinds of warning signs. And

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Speaker 7: I never voted for anything on dema not to give

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Speaker 7: just beyond my understanding why this is what happens when

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Speaker 7: And by the way, they beat out Harris Center, which

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Speaker 7: beat them out for this contract. So it sounds a

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Speaker 2: Doesn't It sounds a lot like the University of Texas

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Speaker 2: doing her work, Holly over at the Texan is doing

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Speaker 2: her work. You've got a random story here and there.

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Speaker 2: But if we didn't have somebody on the inside asking

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Speaker 2: these questions, forcing this to be made more public, because

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Speaker 2: sunlight's the best disinfectant when it comes to this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Commissioner Tom Ramsey, if you can hold with us, I

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Speaker 2: want folks to understand what's about to happen with this

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Speaker 2: eight percent property tax hike, how they got away with it,

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Speaker 2: because I think this is gonna give people in case

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Speaker 2: the red ass when they realize exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Tom Ramsey's our guestimat let me see it right.

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Speaker 1: Listen for the dio tone.

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Speaker 7: It sounds like this the Michael Berry Show chap tone

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Speaker 7: indicates everything is ready for your call.

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Speaker 1: This centro takes too long to get to the good touch.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind building to a crescendo, but I think

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Speaker 2: at some point I'm like, guys, I gotta go pee.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make it till the end. Bring some

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Speaker 2: percussion in earlier, some keys in earlier. I'm going it

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Speaker 2: starts with popcorn, and it takes forever to get to

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Speaker 2: who did popcorn?

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Speaker 7: Remember?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, hot butter, that's it. Good call. Wow, that's impressive.

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Speaker 2: Parris County Commissioner Tom Ramsey as our guest commissioner. The

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Speaker 2: eight percent property tax increase when revenues are already high,

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Speaker 2: values are already high, so that they can have more

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Speaker 2: money to spend on Rodney's pet projects without voters even

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Speaker 2: getting to approve it.

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Speaker 1: Explain how that happened.

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Speaker 7: Well, the site legislature allowed counties to increase taxes eight percent.

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Speaker 7: Normally they capped at at three and a half percent,

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Speaker 7: but they allowed it to go to eight percent because

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Speaker 7: we've had three disasters in Harrison County in the last

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Speaker 7: three months. So the interesting thing I find about this,

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Speaker 7: now we're going to use the eight percent window because

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Speaker 7: of the disaster is the problem is we're not spending

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Speaker 7: the money on disaster. If I could sit here and

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Speaker 7: tell you that, yeah, we were significantly impacted by the

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Speaker 7: May Day floods, the retro the barrels, farms, and here's

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Speaker 7: all the damage.

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Speaker 4: We probably have a significant amount of damage.

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Speaker 7: The problem is when I go in as Precinct three

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Speaker 7: and say my precinct has been impacted twenty five million

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Speaker 7: and I need money, and they tell me, oh, that's

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Speaker 7: too bad, you got four million, and then they take

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Speaker 7: eight percent increase, which is by the way, we talk

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Speaker 7: about percent, I like to talk numbers. That is two

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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty four million dollars more than we took

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Speaker 7: in last year.

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Speaker 4: Apparently we paid all our bills last year.

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Speaker 7: Had provided all our services.

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Speaker 4: Last year, but this year we're going to increase.

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Speaker 7: It two one hundred and sixty four million dollars to

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Speaker 7: go do things that to me don't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Barbie Robinson, the health director that it appears allegedly was

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Speaker 2: about ready to take some kickbacks, may have already from

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Speaker 2: this DEMA company out of California. Our executive producer, Chad Nakanishi,

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Speaker 2: had a deing go off in his head and reminded

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Speaker 2: me of a story The Press Democrat Atsnoma County, California,

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Speaker 2: found a company DEMA had bill more than eight hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for positions that a dozen former and then

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Speaker 2: current employees did not.

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Speaker 1: Recall ever existed.

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Speaker 2: The earlier part of that story was that the this

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Speaker 2: was a program that would send social workers instead of

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Speaker 2: shriffs deputies to.

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Speaker 1: Nine to one one calls.

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Speaker 2: Even though there were all sorts of red flags, and

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Speaker 2: we made quite a spoof of that at the time.

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Speaker 2: You said you voted against them the entire time. Why

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Speaker 2: what was your red flag with that organization.

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Speaker 7: Well, one, as I said earlier, if they came out

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Speaker 7: of northern California and they beat out one of the

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Speaker 7: premier mental health facilities in the world, otherwise known as

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Speaker 7: Harris Center.

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Speaker 3: So that's a flag.

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Speaker 4: And clearly that was substantiated.

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Speaker 1: Now two and a half.

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Speaker 7: Years later when when clearly the services were not provided.

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Speaker 7: But let me tell you about this. It's called HEART

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Speaker 7: and it's a holistic response team to issues out there.

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Speaker 7: And my rule is anytime I hear somebody use the

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Speaker 7: word holistic, that's another flag that goes off. That's another

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Speaker 7: word for this is all made up and we don't

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Speaker 7: know what we're doing.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Michael. There were five thousand, two.

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Speaker 7: Hundred and sixty calls made under this program, and again

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Speaker 7: to send out mental health personnel rather than law enforcement.

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Speaker 4: Well, the two thousand and six hundred of them.

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Speaker 7: Related to weldness checks, another two thousand was related to

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Speaker 7: just checking on the neighborhood. Only two hundred were related

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Speaker 7: to any kind of mental health issues. So again, I

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Speaker 7: don't think they made those calls to be honest with you,

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Speaker 7: and no one seems to be interested in auditing that

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Speaker 7: I'm asking that.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to ask the.

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Speaker 7: County auditor again to go in and take a look

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Speaker 7: at these.

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Speaker 4: So again, it's just an example of the hundreds.

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Speaker 7: Of millions of dollars that were wasting at Harrison County

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Speaker 7: on issues like this.

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Speaker 4: We've got a spending problem, not.

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Speaker 7: A revenue problem in Harris County.

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Speaker 2: When you look at Harris County expenditures, not just who's

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Speaker 2: getting the contracts and how they're going about it and

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Speaker 2: how poorly they're performing. What are a couple of things

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Speaker 2: that stick out that are a real burr under your

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Speaker 2: bonnet that you say taxpayers need to realize this is happening.

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Speaker 7: Well at the top of the list Access Harris and

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Speaker 7: this is a program that, let's get on paper. It

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Speaker 7: allows people that that comes in looking for a particular

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Speaker 7: help in some area they can use this program that

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Speaker 7: goes across Harris County and looks at all.

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Speaker 1: The different programs.

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Speaker 7: Last year we spent three and a half million dollars

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Speaker 7: on this and I think a thousand people used it.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't even count to tens of millions of dollars

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Speaker 7: we spent with IBM setting this program up at the

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Speaker 7: Reproductive health Care Access Fund six million dollars. No problem there, right,

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Speaker 7: Reproductive health.

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Speaker 4: Care Access Fund. Again, it's the it's.

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Speaker 7: These programs that are politically named that are out there

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Speaker 7: maybe even doing things that are not legal creation of

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Speaker 7: the Elections Administrator. You know, we did that two and

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Speaker 7: a half years ago, three years ago, and now of

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Speaker 7: course we get out of that and turn it back

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Speaker 7: over to duly elected people. Michael, that costs US six million.

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Speaker 1: Dollars a year. Commission go through that one minute. You've

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Speaker 1: just reminded me that I need to ask you about

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Speaker 1: one other thing.

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Speaker 2: Attorney General Ken Paxton has declared to bear and Harris County,

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Speaker 2: the county where you're trying to put an end to

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Speaker 2: the nonsense about these voter registrate these.

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Speaker 1: Ballots that they're mailing out. Have we managed to kill

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Speaker 1: that in Harris County.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that was on the agenda last week and I

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Speaker 7: had pulled it to discuss it and and they looked

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Speaker 7: at it and said, uh no, we won't be sending.

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Speaker 4: Out they were.

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Speaker 7: What they were trying to do is encourage people to

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Speaker 7: register to vote by indiscriminately sending out letters to people

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Speaker 7: that were not registered.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a real good likelihood they would be sending

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Speaker 4: it to people that are not here legally, and.

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Speaker 7: Then you're tempting them to break the law. You're breaking

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Speaker 7: law by sending it to them, and they're breaking the

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Speaker 7: law by trying to do that. Yes, that was killed

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Speaker 7: in Commissioner's Court, but we'll keep an eye beach your

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Speaker 7: old one.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't come back in the commission. Tom Ramsey, well done, bravos.