1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang on today's show the Envelope. Please, that's right, 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: it's time of the twenty twenty Cardinals Awards. Kyle Udeguard 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: is back. He does this every year on Easy Cardinals 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: dot Com in the last couple of years here with us. 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: It's always fun and this year was no exception. Also 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: will preview Championship Sunday Bills at Chiefs and Buccaneers at Packers. 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three eighty eight and it 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: Visit Easy Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fitts Bob Pennies into 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Here's Grilu and Mike Jarecki. 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: So there's nothing new on the Larry Fitzgerald front except this. 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, drafted one pick after fitz was selected by 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals in two thousand and four, announced his retirement yesterday. 17 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: It got people wondering MJ. That's all. I'm gonna leave 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: it at that. Perhaps maybe Fits would be the next 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: although there's another quarterback in that draft class there is 20 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: some questions about his future, and that would be Ben Roethlisberger. 21 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: So Fitz is not alone. Although that two thousand and 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: four draft class, the entire draft class getting smaller and 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: smaller as far as players still in the National Football League. Yeah, 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, now that Rivers has retired, he'd take a 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: look at and some really interesting names in that draft. 26 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, Sean Taylor, unfortunately he passed away, Will Smith 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: passed away, and then the obviously the situation with Kellen 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Winslow wasn't good considering you know, that was a Hall 29 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: of Famer. But yeah, you look at Larry and Roethlisberger 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: and Jason Peters. He wasn't part of that draft class. 31 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: He was an undrafted free agent. Okay but technically, but 32 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't drafted. And then Andy Lee and I don't 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: know if he counts so because you look at punters, 34 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: no disrespect, but these other guys played in the trenches 35 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: and played so but yeah, that could go on one 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: of the best quarterback class. I'm sure it's gonna go 37 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: with the one back in nineteen eighty three when six 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were drafted, some didn't make it. But yeah, I 39 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: had nothing new on Larry Again. I think he's going 40 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: to take his time. You know, we in the years past, 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: we've heard something around the Phoenix Open and then you know, 42 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: before he gets to the super Bowl. But I think 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: he's just taking his time weighing all his options. And 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he'll make an announcement to 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He could, but I don't. I don't think 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: there's a certain date, just based on what I know 47 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and what I'm hearing. Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: Emmett Smith announce his retirement during super Bowl Week? Yes? 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: And Dan Bickley and I we're in We're at the 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: super Bowl that year and we got clipped tipped off 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: by Clarence Hill covered him at Smith in the NFL 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: fronds upon guys making those decisions during super Bowl week 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: because they don't want all the attention. But you know, 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 1: Emmett did have an ego. Yeah, we knew the night before, 55 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: but it was announced at the super Bowl, that is correct. 56 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: And speaking of the waste management Phoenix Open, Larry Fitzgerald 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: is scheduled to participates in the Pro Am the week 58 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, but that is a Wednesday, certainly 59 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: would allow fits plenty of time to travel to Tampa 60 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: later in the week, but he is among the list 61 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: of athletes and celebrities that will participate that week. Whether 62 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: he's made available to the media or not, who knows. 63 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: It's not the first time that he's been involved, and 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: certainly won't be the last time that he plays in 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: that event. We also know this. Kyle is coming up next, 66 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: but first need to remind the Bird Gang to update 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: to the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. 68 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: The update features an all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: asy cardinals dot com slash app for more. He is 70 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: the Master of Ceremonies, the host of the twenty twenty 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals Awards. He is Kyle Odegarde, once again joining Cardinals 72 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Covered two. What are this three straight appearances? Kyle? We're 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: at this rate, We're gonna put you on payroll. If 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: this keeps up. I think Cardinals Cover three we should 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: change the name. It it works. We'll just see how 76 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: much of a defense that provides against some of these 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: high powered offenses around the league. All right, twenty twenties, 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: we look back Cardinals Awards. You've been doing this for 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: a few years now, but you're looking at basically in 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: house twenty seven people part of the Arizona Cardinals dot 81 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: com team of people, whether it's broadcasters, whether it's online, 82 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: whether it's digital, behind the scenes people, but basically everyone 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: who has followed the team from the start of training 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: camp all the way to the end of the regular season. Yeah, 85 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: it's a good collection of different people, Like you said, 86 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: some good voices, several former players, you know, Ron Wolfley 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and Bertram Berry and Rob Frederickson, some guys that you 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: know the game at a really good level. And it's 89 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: interesting seeing all the different choices. And this year there 90 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: were certainly some names that stood out. There was a 91 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: lot of agreement this season on who these award winners 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: should be. Compared to the last few seasons, it's been 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more spread out. Well, there are six 94 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: different categories. We'll work our way towards most Valuable Cardinal. 95 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: I want to start with what I think is probably 96 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: the more fun category. Certainly a lot of debate, and 97 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: that is beyond the box score Player of the Year 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: stats may not totally reflect his worth. And the winner 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: of this award is who Kyle. The winner of that 100 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: one was Dennis Gardeck, and he got eighteen votes out 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: of the twenty seven. And you're right, Craig, this is 102 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: an area where there's always a lot of different votes 103 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: because you interpret it how you want. What is beyond 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: the box score mean to you. But Dennis Gardeck was 105 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: my choice, and I think it made sense because yes, 106 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: he did have seven sacks on the season, which was 107 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: really incredible, but it didn't exactly tell everything about what 108 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: he did. Where he came into the season, he was 109 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: an inside linebacker. Last year he switched to outside linebacker. 110 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: He certainly seemed like just a special team's piece, like 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: he would like he had been the previous couple of years. 112 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: And then Chandler Jones got hurt. He got his opportunity 113 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: and he was fantastic, and he's also an emotional leader 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: for this team. So a lot of people chose Dennis Gardeck, 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: and to me, that made a lot of sense. Yeah, 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: I think all three of us picked Dennis Gardeck, if 117 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Actually I went with DJ Humphreys because 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I've kind of gone with looking at the offensive line 119 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: when this award comes up every single year, and I 120 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: think I got chastised by our Master of ceremonies one 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: year when I just basically put the entire offensive line 122 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: because I couldn't single one out. But I did put 123 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Humphries just because of the left tackle and how well 124 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: he played and how he grated out And certainly it's 125 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: one of those cornerstone positions that you have to have. 126 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah and listen. I don't think there's any wrong answer. 127 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I see Zeke Turner on here, I see Isaiah Simmons's, 128 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you see DJ Humphries. But just the fact that he 129 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: played ninety three snaps and you know he's undersized, he's 130 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. He plays with a lot of 131 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: energy and passion, and you know, he probably never gets 132 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the credit. And you know, whether he's gonna be a 133 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: phrasient this year or next year, I don't think anyone's 134 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna throw a ton of money in him. But he's 135 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: a great player on special teams, in your root for underdogs, 136 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: and so I think he definitely fills that box. I 137 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: also gave an honorable mention to Corey Peters because if 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: you looked and I actually went back when he got 139 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: hurt that second half of the season, those final seven games, 140 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: this team was able, unable, I should say, to really 141 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: stop the run. And I think we might have seen 142 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: a different outcome, especially those final two weeks, if you 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: not only had Peters on the field just his play, 144 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: but also his presence. And yeah, when you're around, you're injured, 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you're still around. But I just think this defense really 146 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: missed Corey Peters, especially down the stretch of the regular season. Yeah, 147 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I like both Corey Peters and DJ Humphries from your 148 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: thought process because I think both those guys really fit 149 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: that description where you look at a box score after 150 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: a game. Obviously DJ Humphries isn't going to be in there, 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes Corey Peters might have three or four tackles 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: and you don't understand the impact he had. But I 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: think it's been shown year after a year, when Corey 154 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: Peters is in the game, compared to when he's not, 155 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: the run defense is a lot different. So I think 156 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: you're right, Craig, when you don't have him on the field, 157 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: not only is he a leader and a guy that's 158 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: kind of a man torty younger players, but he's still 159 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: very good at his job, and his job is stopping 160 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the run. Well, let's see what if I mean, no 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones for the majority of the season, No Robert 162 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: alf and Corey Peters was a big loss, not only 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: just on the field, but we know in the locker room, 164 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: and you know, he was occupying two bodies where you know. 165 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: And then Jordan Phillips. I mean, they went out and 166 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: spent a lot of money on him and he obviously 167 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: didn't have the year that everyone thought he would, considering 168 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: he put up numbers in Buffalo. So when you start 169 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: taking pieces like that away, you gout. You give a 170 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: five year contract to a guy has been the system, 171 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: and then Alford and then Chandler Jones. You know, every 172 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: team has injuries, but those were affected at important positions. Now, 173 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: granted they did finishing the top five or six in 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: sacks more by committee and you got to give Dennis 175 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: Gardick a lot of credit. There Yeah, no wrong answer 176 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: with this one. But the twenty twenty award for Beyond 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: the box Score Player of the Year is Dennis Gardeck. 178 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: That leads us to Play of the Year one single play, 179 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think there is any debate on this one. 180 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: In fact, we talked about it when we were going 181 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: through our offensive discussion with Kyle, and that is one 182 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: play and it was at the or against the Buffalo Bills, 183 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: and that was the Hail Murray. This had to have 184 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: been unanimous, Kyle. Yeah. Do you know how hard it 185 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: is to get twenty seven people to agree on anything, 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: But here it was the Hail Murray. Every single person 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: wrote that down as the play of the year. But 188 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: you're right, I mean, what other option was there? It 189 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: was a play that was the most memorable for the 190 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals in my opinion, since the Hail Larry, which was 191 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, So we're talking about five seasons. 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: If you look in the entire NFL this year, that 193 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: was probably the signature play. Another one was the Cardinals 194 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: Seahawks game when Buddha Baker got tracked down by DK Metcalf. 195 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: So the Cardinals had two of the most memorable plays 196 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: of the entire NFL season. But I mean the Hail Murray. 197 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: We've talked about it ad nauseum, but the job that 198 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was able to do on that play escaping 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the rush, throwing across his body a really perfect, accurate strike, 200 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and then DeAndre Hopkins jumping higher than those three defenders 201 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: that were in really good position and coming down with 202 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: that ball. It was it was incredible, and I mean 203 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: it was unanimous. Everybody loved that play. I think you know, 204 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: there were only what forty fans or so in the stands, 205 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: and when he caught that, the place erupted like there 206 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: were fifteen thousand. So it was such a cool moment 207 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: and to me, the pinnacle of the Cardinal season. Yeah, 208 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, after that, you know, just started 209 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: going on that losing streak from a standpoint of just 210 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, if they don't win that game, then all 211 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden been a lot worse. But his uncanny 212 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: ability to reach the ball at highest peak, I mean, 213 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: it was fascinating to watch. I think we've been spoilt 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: with Larry over the years, and we talked about it. 215 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought the throw was just 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: as important as to catch because he was being flushed 217 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: out of the pocket, he was getting close to the sidelines. 218 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: He didn't really throw that moon ball, but he did 219 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: see hop and hop put his hand up and three 220 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: guys were draped on him. And we know the Bills 221 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: made adjustments down the stretch when it came to a 222 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: playoff game of you know, knocking the ball down, but 223 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: just that play, and I think it should be Play 224 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: of the Year. I'm sure there's other players out there, 225 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: maybe the Buddha play just because of the game against 226 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the Seahawks on national television, but also the Bills game 227 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: just because the Bills are one of the up and 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: coming teams in the league. But clearly it should be 229 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: in the running for Play of the Year. And to 230 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: this point, that was the last time the Bills lost 231 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: a ball game, So the Cardinals had that going for them, 232 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: even though they're not in the playoffs right now. As 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: we continue here, Cardinals awards for twenty twenty Newcomer of 234 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: the Year first season with the team, and this, Kyle, 235 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: is regardless of whether you were acquired via free agency, trade, 236 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: or draft pick. Yeah, so a lot of different options 237 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and some guys that got votes which I thought made 238 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: sense were Lean Beacham, who stepped in nicely at right tackle, 239 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: especially when Marcus Gilbert decided to opt out. And you 240 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: had Josh Jones, a rookie, but you wanted a veteran 241 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: to be able to have that job if Josh Jones 242 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: wasn't ready, and Kelvin Beacham I thought, came in and 243 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: played really well. Devondre Campbell also got a few votes, 244 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: A guy who stepped in nicely inside linebacker and just 245 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: didn't have an offseason came in and it looked like 246 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: he'd been within this defense the last five years. A 247 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: very smart guy. But the winner was DeAndre Hopkins, which 248 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: obviously makes a ton of sense. It was his first 249 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: season with the team, a guy who lived up to 250 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: all the hype the building. We just talked about the 251 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: hail Murray and beyond that, he was the biggest threat 252 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had offensively, a guy that anytime Kyler Murray 253 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: seemed like he was gonna pinch. That's who he was 254 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: looking for. And DeAndre Hopkins is kind of interesting because 255 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: the measurables don't exactly blow you away looking at him. 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: He's not like this DK Metcalf hulk type body, but 257 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: he's just such a good football player and you really 258 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: appreciate that when you watch him game after game, And 259 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: I think that's really what the voting panel saw is 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: just how consistent and consistently excellent. DeAndre Hopkins is. Yeah, 261 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: I went with Campbell just from a standpoint of, you know, 262 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: tight ends was a big issue. Now, I'm not saying 263 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: he covered every tight end down the field. You know, 264 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: he did miss a little bit of time there, but 265 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: I thought he really settled that position down from a 266 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: year ago, you know, and the fact that he's on 267 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: a one year deal and knowing that he's basically bet 268 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: on himself, and you know, now with Isaiah Simmons in 269 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: the mix, I assume that he'll test free agency and 270 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals feel like they have their guy in the middle. 271 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: But I just like to spread some of the awards 272 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: around and you know, we'll get into the MVP and 273 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: the Offensive Player of the Year. But I thought Campbell 274 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and Beech him's a great choice too, because he kind 275 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: of bailed them out and his grades were decent all year. 276 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, even though Justin Murray and se were kind 277 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: of alternating at right guard, he really held that right 278 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: side down. And I want to say he probably played 279 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the most snaps with DJ Humphreys on the offensive line, 280 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and that's important when you start talking about protecting the edge, 281 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: especially when this team goes forward five wide. Statistically speaking, 282 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins number two in receptions, number three in receiving yards. 283 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Was this the best first season for a player wearing 284 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: a Cardinals uniform? And while you guys think about that, 285 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: because I kind of went back and the first season 286 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: that came to mind that might have been in a 287 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: comparison was our colleague bertrand Berry his first season with 288 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. He had fourteen and a half sacks in 289 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. And that's the only thing that 290 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: I can compare, is just from a numbers standpoint, because 291 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Hopkins top three amongst all receivers in the league, and 292 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: here's bertrand Berry not only double digit sacks, but fourteen. 293 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: That's a lofty number up there. And I just wonder, 294 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: if you're going to compare from one season to the 295 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: next Hopkins in Bertram Berry, it might be the only 296 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: time we're mentioning those two names in the same sentence. Yeah. 297 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a good, you know, combination of two 298 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: guys who came in immediately and really seamlessly played well. 299 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: And that's not always easy to do. I mean, we've 300 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: seen a lot of guys with name recognition come to 301 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals or other teams, and they just couldn't have 302 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the type of production that they did on their previous 303 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: teams because you're in a new scheme and you're with 304 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: new coaches and new players, and that first season it's 305 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: not easy. So I think what DeAndre Hopkins did was 306 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I mean, he's obviously a supernatural talent and 307 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: that was always going to translate. But it could have 308 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: translated to eleven or twelve hundred yards this season, which 309 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: would have been solid, and that's maybe where I thought 310 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: he might be in his first year, and instead it 311 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: was fourteen hundred plus, So just a standout season. An 312 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Kuom Bolden also came to mind, even though he was 313 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: a rookie, he had a really nice first season for 314 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But you're right, Bertram Berry and hop seemed 315 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: like the top two. All right, three down, three to 316 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: go before we continue though here on this Thursday edition 317 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday probab partner of 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. If you want more Kyle, if you 319 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: want Kyle right at your fingertips, then you need to 320 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: update to the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. 321 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: The update features an all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit 322 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: easy cardinals dot com, slash app or more. All right, gentlemen, 323 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. I think there are two 324 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: main players that we can talk about here, Buddha Baker 325 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: and Hassan Reddick. But Kyle as our master of ceremonies, 326 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: here which player came away with Defensive Player of the 327 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Year honors? Yeah, the winner was Buddha Baker. You're right. 328 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: It was definitely a two horse race. Those were the 329 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: two players that got votes, and Hassan Reddick had a 330 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: nice showing in the vote category, which makes sense. I mean, 331 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: he started the season as a backup outside linebacker and 332 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: everybody wondered what kind of role he would have. And 333 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: you look by the end of the season, twelve and 334 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a half sacks, six forced fumbles, a guy who was 335 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: on the field like ninety to one hundred percent of 336 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: the time every game, like for the last half of 337 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: the season, because he was that indispensable. But Buddha Baker 338 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: did win it, and it's hard to argue with that. 339 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: He won an All Pro honor. He was a Pro 340 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: bowler once again, a guy who, especially in that month 341 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: of October just really took it over and moved to 342 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: a new level the Cowboys game when he got that 343 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: first pick of his career. I think that game really 344 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: showed his versatility because he had a forced fumble, a sack, 345 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: an interception, and then he follows that up with the 346 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: great play of intercepting Russell Wilson in the right by 347 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals goal line, almost returning it for a touchdown. 348 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: So I think that stretch especially showed just how talented 349 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: and how important Buddha Baker is to this team. He 350 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: wasn't as impact pulled down the stretch, but it's hard 351 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: to blame him because Vance Joseph said that teams were 352 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: making concerted effort to not let Buddha Baker make plays 353 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: and whether throwing away from him or making sure he 354 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: was blocked on blitzz. He got to the point where 355 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: he's such an important player that teams did almost like 356 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: a boxing one and one in basketball, where you're making 357 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: sure a certain guy can't beat you, and Buddha Baker 358 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: got that treatment well. And plus you take a look at, 359 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, the backups. He was playing with Chris Banjo 360 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: for the majority of the time there between Jalen and 361 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson. It couldn't stay healthy. They were mixing and matching. 362 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: But again, he lays a team in tackles. When one 363 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen finished with two sacks, two hundred and 364 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: six interceptions, six passes defense, he should have scored on 365 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: the DK medcap play. But you know, we watched that 366 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: Carolina game and Maury said they came out flat, which 367 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't have happened when you lose it alliance at home, 368 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: and it really showed. I mean, you look at Teddy Bridgewater. 369 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: He hadn't run for a touchdown for twenty five yards 370 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: probably for three or four years, so they definitely missed him. 371 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I thought he you know, teams 372 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: were staying away from him, and he was trying to 373 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: make play. Sometimes you gotta let him come to you. 374 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: And I think we saw that body of work, though 375 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, nothing against the son Reddick week seven to 376 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: week eleven didn't have a sack or a quarterback hit, 377 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: so body of work. We know how much they missed him. Clearly. 378 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: I thought Budha Baker was the MVP. It's probably going 379 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: to be in the same conversation for the next few years. 380 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: I was part of the vocal minority amongst this because 381 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: I did go with his son, Reddick, just because of 382 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: what he was able to do stepping in for Chandler Jones. 383 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: And I was influenced by the production, finishing in the 384 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: top three in sacks, tackles for loss, and force fumbles. 385 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: No other defensive player in the National Football League can 386 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: stake that claim, and I thought it was a wonderful season. 387 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: Was it a contract year, who knows. But now we've 388 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: got that interesting conversation about what do you do if 389 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: you're the Cardinals with Reddick going into free agency and 390 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: is there a market or a player like that or 391 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: is it more because of the system that he plays in. 392 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: But he certainly is an outside linebacker and not an 393 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, so again, couldn't go wrong either way. Budebaker 394 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: or Hassan Reddick two very important pieces for that defense, 395 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: especially considering the number of pieces this defense lost during 396 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: the course of the season. And I think when you 397 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: say one year wonder in regards to Hassan Reddick, that's 398 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: certainly true because this production this season was light years 399 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: ahead of anything he did in his first three. But 400 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a caveat because he was finally at 401 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: the position to which he could excel at at outside linebacker. 402 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: So if they did this in his third year and 403 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: then he did it again in his fourth, obviously the 404 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: free agency would be a lot different, where, hey, this 405 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: guy's gonna get premium money from somebody. Now the question 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: is can he do it again, which it's a legitimate question. 407 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Did the Cardinals believe that he is a double digit 408 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: SAT guy or are they a little bit worried that 409 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: maybe it was just one really good season highlighted by 410 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: one five SAT game. So I think it's a very 411 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: intriguing question. But knowing his background, where he's got the 412 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: pedigree of a first round pick, he's got this really 413 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: crazy athleticism for an outside linebacker, and you've seen guys 414 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: like von Miller who are similar to his size have 415 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: success as speed rushers. And from what I saw, I 416 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: didn't think it was flukey the way Hassan Reddick got 417 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: after the quarterback, especially in certain games like the Seattle 418 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: game at home obviously the Giants game. There were a 419 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: contests in which Hassan Reddick was the best player on 420 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: the field, and that's hard to do in the NFL. 421 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: So I think he certainly has a market that's gonna 422 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: be way bigger than we thought it was going to be. 423 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: Exactly where that goes remains to be seen, but I 424 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: think he made himself a lot of money this season. Well, 425 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: and if you look at the draft, there's not a 426 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: lot of great pass rushers. Now I'm sure you can 427 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: find one in a third or fourth round. It could 428 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: be a situation or road team Asian guy. I think 429 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the question becomes, who do you rather have a sound 430 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: Roddick or Marcus Golden. Now, Marcus Golden has had some injuries. 431 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: You've been able to stay healthy the last couple of years. 432 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: A son had that ankle injury kind of put them 433 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball going into camp, and clearly they 434 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: made the right decision. And then Chandler Jones goes in 435 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: the final year coming off You know, I'm not an 436 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: ACL injury, but you know, a pectoral he's gonna be 437 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: thirty one or thirty two. Is cap numbers twenty million. 438 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals decided to trade him, they would say 439 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: fifteen million. So maybe you can afford to move some 440 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: money around. Listen, we all talk about the cap going down. 441 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: There's teams out there, they're going to have cap space, 442 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: and pass rushers are not growing on trees. Usually teams 443 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: keep these players. Somebody can offer our sound one year 444 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: for eight million dollars. I mean, will the Cardinals do that? 445 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals put the tag on him and try 446 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: to trade them just to get some value. I mean, 447 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: these are things that obviously they're discussing, so be interested 448 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: to see. And you know, I look at Chandler Jones. 449 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: Is he goes start hitting the wall just like Laias Scampbell. 450 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Did you give him a two year contract? Is he 451 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: looking for more? See a guy you can obviously, you know, 452 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: listen for phone calls. I don't know, because you know, 453 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: you got to make a decision. But I think I 454 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: would take Golden over Reddick. And all it takes is 455 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: one team in free agency as far as putting an 456 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: offer in front of Reddick, and then he's gone. And 457 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to fault to him for that, especially 458 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: considering what he has gone through up until this point. 459 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Let's move to Offensive Player of the Year, and again, 460 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: I think there are two main nominees here, just like 461 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: there were for Defensive Player of the Year, although I 462 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: think the voting was a little bit more skewed in 463 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: one direction, Kyler Murray or DeAndre Hopkins Kyle who won 464 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year here for the Cardinals Awards 465 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty. DeAndre Hopkins did get the honor for 466 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: this one. And it's an interesting question because obviously Kyler 467 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: Murray is somebody who is the engine to the offense 468 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: and had a really nice season, and it depends, I 469 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: think kind of how you break it down. And I 470 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: personally also voted for DeAndre Hopkins because when you talk 471 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: about Offensive Player of the Year I look at it like, 472 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: how did you compare two players at your position? And 473 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins's head and shoulders above the rest of a 474 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals receivers and b most of the receivers in 475 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: the NFL except for maybe two or three. So to me, 476 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: that's why I put DeAndre Hopkins there. He had a 477 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: great season, and Kyler Murray was very good, but he 478 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: was maybe more in the ten to fifteen range among 479 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks when DeAndre Hopkins was top three for wide receivers. 480 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: And that's my reasoning behind picking DeAndre Hopkins. I took 481 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I thought Murray obviously threw for less close 482 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: to four thousand yards, is shy of it, second in 483 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: the team and rushing in eight six playing two yards 484 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: and eleven touchdowns. I didn't like the way Murray played 485 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: down the stretch, and I know he was playing through injuries. 486 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: A lot of guys are playing through injuries and you know, 487 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: just not being able to see the field, and I 488 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: just didn't like the way he played down the stretch show. 489 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: I will with him to the Offensive Player of the Year. 490 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: I went with Murray as well, just because of what 491 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: he was able to do as far as total touchdowns, 492 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: as far as whether it was rushing, whether it was passing. 493 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: He accounted for more than seventy five percent of the 494 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: team's touchdowns this season, and I think that tilted it 495 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: for me over Hopkins, just because, yeah, he had the catches, 496 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: he had the row yards. He just only had six 497 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. And I don't know if that was because 498 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: opposing defenses wouldn't allow him into the end zone. It 499 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: wasn't looked at targeted inside the twenty yard line. But 500 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: I would think going forward, Kyle, that six has got 501 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: to be the low water mark when it comes to 502 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Hopkins scoring touchdowns. That's got to be a number that 503 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: you gotta get into double digits as we continue this 504 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: Murray Hopkins relationship. I don't really care about touchdowns personally. 505 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: It's like, if DeAndre Hopkins catches a forty yard pass 506 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: and gets you down to the three yard line and 507 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: then Kennyan Drake runs it in, then it's not a 508 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: big deal to me. I think it's more about the 509 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: overall production. And you look at the way he scored. 510 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so many of those were memorable, long touchdown passes, 511 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: and that's really important. It kind of depends how they come. 512 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean, if he gives you five touchdowns of twenty 513 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: yards or more, I would take that over twelve touchdowns total, 514 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: which includes three on pick plays from the two yard 515 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: lines or a wide receiver screen from the one. You know, 516 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: not all touchdowns are alike. So that's why I thought, 517 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: even though he had the low touchdown total, did not 518 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: bother me because Kenyan Drake had a big time number 519 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. But overall, I don't think Kenny and Drake 520 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: played as well as he did last season, So I 521 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: think touchdowns are kind of spread out and kind of random. 522 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: But DeAndre Hopkins the way he contributed. I do think 523 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: his touchdown total will go up next season just because 524 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals will target him a lot in the end zone. 525 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: But if he gets six or twelve, it doesn't really 526 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: matter to me. It's a great analytical answer there. A 527 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: college throw that in that. It was a very very 528 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: good analytical answer. Everything you said I could I agree 529 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: with you, But I love how you worked the numbers there. Yeah. 530 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean I you start looking at, you know, some 531 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: of the wide receivers this year, and Davante Adams eighteen, 532 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: and they have other talent on the roster. They have 533 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: a good running game, Tyreek Hill fifty, Adam DeLand. I'm 534 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: talking about number one wide receivers fourteen, Mike Evans fourteen, 535 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: DK Metcap twelve, A J. Brown twelve, Travis Kelsey more 536 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: over a tight end. And it's not like you know 537 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: who let the team in touchdowns just this year, Hopkins 538 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: or Kirk they both finished with six. Yeah, I mean 539 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: that's not that's not good enough to be a number 540 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: one wide receiver in my opinion. You have to take 541 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the top off the defense. We know, and I get 542 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Kyle, if he's going to get forty yards. 543 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, fourteen hundred yards receiving, I know, but six touchdowns. 544 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: When I look at other number one wide receivers, they're 545 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: putting up double digits. This has got to be Was 546 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: this his career low when it came to touchdowns this year? 547 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: I think it was. But if you're gonna give me 548 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards and twelve touchdowns or fourteen hundred and six, 549 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: give me the guy that gives you the yard inch, Well, 550 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: you know points matter though, I mean you can kick 551 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: field goals. If you could throw a forty yard pass 552 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: and get down to the five yard like you don't 553 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: get out. I know what you're saying, and listen, I 554 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: pick we're gonna get into. I picked him for the 555 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: MVP because of the numbers he put up. And you 556 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: made a great point, Kyle, where he's ranked at his 557 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: position versus Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's not. I mean maybe 558 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: in rushing and average per carry and touchdowns he's not 559 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: in the top ten and a lot of different categories. 560 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: I love the debate here on Cardinals covered two. The 561 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: other point with Hopkins and you don't see this, And 562 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, Kyle, maybe you find it in one 563 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: of those websites that you've searched during the week. But 564 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the number of yards that didn't get because pass interference 565 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: calls that he drew, I mean, how many times, especially 566 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, all he's not getting targeted enough. Well, yeah, 567 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: he was targeted three or four times, but there was 568 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: three pass interference calls, but that doesn't show up on 569 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: the final stat sheet. And I think maybe we're talking 570 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: about an extra one hundred, maybe one hundred and fifty, 571 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: maybe two hundred yards of added to Hopkins's total. Yeah, 572 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: I'd have to look it up exactly, but you're right, 573 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: he had a lot of pass interference yardage. And I'm 574 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: thinking back to at least one maybe two in the 575 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: end zone where they got the ball at the one 576 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: yard line, So he doesn't get a touchdown on that play, 577 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: but when they when they run it in from one yard, 578 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: it's basically DeAndre Hopkins touchdown, even though it doesn't go 579 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: in his books. But I think that's a good point. 580 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Is even what I can't remember which game it was, 581 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: maybe Miami, when he drew like four or five pass 582 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: interference penalties and he might have had twenty five yards 583 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: receiving when it was actually about eighty or eighty five 584 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: when you total up all the yards. I think, you know, 585 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: just the overall numbers were really impressive for him. And 586 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: I think eighteen people voted for DeAndre and nine for Kyler, 587 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: so both got a decent amount of support, but DeAndre 588 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Hopkins did win that category. All right, We have reached 589 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: the final category here for Cardinals Awards for twenty twenty 590 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: most Valuable Cardinal, and this was one of the few 591 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: categories Kyle that did hit the twenty vote mark as 592 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: far as the winner. And again we're talking about a 593 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven member panel voting for awards here this past season, 594 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: but the most valuable Cardinal Kyle Odegard was who Kyler 595 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: Murray was your twenty twenty most Valuable Cardinal. I did 596 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: vote for Kyler Murray. And I take this category very literally, 597 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: asking who is the most valuable player on this team? 598 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: If you take this player out or this person out 599 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: of the team, what happens. And we saw exactly what 600 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: happens in Week seventeen when Kyler Murray was in the game, 601 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: and when he was the Cardinals could not move the 602 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: ball without him against a good defense and when he 603 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: came in that game, they moved it. They didn't score enough, 604 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: but it's just a completely different offense with Kyler Murray. 605 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: So I do think DeAndre Hopkins, when you look at 606 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: specific positions, was better. But when you when you talk 607 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: about how valuable a quarterback is, and when you have 608 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: a good one, that gives you a chance. And I 609 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: think there were moments this season when when Kyler Murray 610 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: was phenomenal, and I do think there were moments where 611 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: the passing game wasn't as efficient enough. The running game 612 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: wasn't as efficient as it should have been. So there 613 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: are certainly things to work on, but it feels like 614 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: when Kyler Murray is in the game, this offense always 615 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: has a chance. And you don't feel like that always, 616 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: especially through the years. I mean the last couple without him, 617 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: you didn't know where the offense would come from, and 618 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: you were hoping that it would work out, but you 619 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: didn't believe that. I think Kyler Murray lets you believe 620 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: that this offense can always move the ball. I went 621 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray as well based off of your reasoning, Kylin. 622 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: I loved what Rob Frederickson had to say about this, 623 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: and again The story is up on Easy Cardinals dot com. 624 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: But he was one of those people that voted for 625 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and he wrote, quote, as Kyler goes, so 626 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: goes the Cardinals. No player on this team has the 627 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: ability to shape the outcome more than K one. And 628 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I think that right there, shape the outcome of Sundays 629 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: speaks to what Kyler Murray is able to do throwing 630 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: the ball and running the ball. And obviously if you 631 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, you've got a chance. MJ. Yeah. I mean, 632 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean, they don't win half those 633 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: games without Kyler Murray this year. I mean, but again, 634 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: I just like I said, I didn't like the way 635 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: he played down the stretch. Now is for hop You 636 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: guys talking about the numbers. One hundred and fifteen catches, 637 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred yards average, twelve point two yards per catch. 638 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: We talked about the touchdowns, but also ended up second 639 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: in targets. He get one hundred and sixty targets, so 640 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: that's basically ten per game if you average. He loved 641 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and first downs with seventy five, he had 642 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: twenty two on third down, So I just think that 643 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, without Hopkins who are they gonna throw too? 644 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: But it makes total sense for those that have voted 645 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. He touches the ball on every offensive 646 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: play and he was dynamic. He was in the MVP 647 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: conversation at least the first six or seven games. And 648 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: you have to put up numbers in this league, and 649 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: again Kyler Murray, you know, rushing and passing. I thought 650 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: he would go over four thousand, just shy of it. 651 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: I thought he over a thousand. He was trending in 652 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: that direction, and I like, I do like that his 653 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: his sacks were down and his touchdowns interception ratio had 654 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: a couple of fumbles, which is going to happen when 655 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: you know he holds it like he did. So again, 656 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: no right or wrong answer, but I just think that 657 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: dynamic really was the Cardinals offense this year. I thought 658 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line was better in the first half than 659 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: they were in the second half. And let's also be frank, 660 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: they were playing better teams and playing teams were playing 661 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: for something. Even though the Niners were out, they were 662 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: still playing for pride, and when they were playing for 663 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: CJ better in that game. There were some other nominees 664 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: as far as most Valuable Cardinal. Ron Wolfley put Buddha 665 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Baker as his MVC because it's not MVP, it's not player. 666 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: And this is the important distinction here, Bird Gang most 667 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Valuable Cardinal. I got to give it up to our 668 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: director of social Media, Zach Gallia, who went with head 669 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: athletic trainer Tom Reid, and I'll second that as well 670 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: because what he was able to do to get this 671 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals team, and this goes for every trainer across the 672 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: league a full season, no game postponed, there was some rescheduling, 673 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: but a full sixteen game season. And knock on wood, gentlemen, 674 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: We've got two games this Sunday and then in Super Bowl. 675 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: You got a full season completed in the midst of 676 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: a global pandemic. Be you're right, It's like you got 677 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins and Buddha Baker and these 678 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: guys are the most athletic people in the world, some 679 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: of the most crazy good football players. And if you 680 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: can't be on the field and you can't play the game, 681 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. So I think Tom Reid did an 682 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: incredible job this season. He was he really helped out, 683 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, not just the players, and the coaches, but 684 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: the staff as well, if anybody had any issues, any questions. 685 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: He was a guy who was very communicative and I 686 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: think everybody appreciates it. Hopefully he can get to like 687 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: a private island or something and just relax for a 688 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: couple of months, because I know he had huge responsibilities 689 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: all season, and like you said, Craig, he did a 690 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: tremendous job of keeping everybody as healthy as possible, as 691 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: informed as possible, and the Cardinals did not get bit 692 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: by the COVID nineteen very much at all. I think 693 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of props to him for that. Yeah, 694 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the most underrated employee because 695 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: of what he did, but the fact is that, I 696 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: mean every day he probably gets in there at three 697 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: or four and then he get the results, and then 698 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: he's got to let the head coach and the GM 699 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: no and next thing, and they got to find out 700 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: tracing and now it wasn't just for the players, it 701 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: was from employees also because they obviously didn't want it 702 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: to spread. So yeah, unbelievable. And you know, hopefully we 703 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: can I'll do our part and make sure he does 704 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: get that nice shift for him the Cardinals Awards for 705 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, again six categories. It is all up on 706 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: Azy Cardinals dot com. Our master of Ceremonies, Kylouder guard 707 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Kyle, And I'll say this, if there is 708 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: a fourth straight appearance here on Cardinals Cover two presented 709 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: by Hunday, then we will have to change the name 710 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Cover three. Yeah. I don't think we talked 711 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: enough analytics in this one, So if we want to 712 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: do an analytics heavy show, let me know. You know, 713 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm always down for that, so listen. He'll be joining 714 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: us periodically. We'll also get on Darren Herbert. But Kyle 715 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: has done this for years since he's been with the 716 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: red Birds. It's a lot of leg work, so we 717 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And then as we inch closer to free agency, 718 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: he'll start doing free agent breakdown, and then obviously the 719 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: three of us will start to figure out what's going 720 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: to happen closer to the draft after free agency. So Kyle, 721 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: we have your number, we know how to give you 722 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: the invite through Craig. So I don't think you can 723 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: hide on us at anymore. I don't think you have. 724 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: You're always there when we call you, so we appreciate it. 725 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready to debate the outside linebacker stuff. You said 726 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: some things that I disagree with, so I held my 727 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: tongue for this round because we're focusing on awards, but 728 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: a long offseason is ahead of us, and I'm ready 729 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: to debate. I appreciate it. That's what we call it 730 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: teas in the business. Kyle, appreciate it very much. Thanks guys. 731 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Music, 732 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: tune in, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows 733 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: on the go like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, 734 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: The Cardinals Read See Report, and of course this show 735 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts 736 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: for more information. Again, appreciate Kyle joining us US before 737 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: we call it a show. M J Championship Sunday, NFC 738 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 1: Buccaneers at Packers, AFC Bills at Chiefs. Really looking forward 739 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 1: to both of these matchups. But when I say those 740 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: four teams, anything stand out amongst those four and these 741 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: particular two matchups, well, I mean, if if you want 742 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: to go and we're gonna go, Body of Work. But 743 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: if you go like teams in the second half of 744 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: the season. You look what the Bills have done, You 745 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: look what the Buccaneers have done. Obviously, you know Aaron 746 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Packers have been consistent throughout the course 747 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: of the season. And then you throw in the Kansas 748 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Me they're not blowing out teams, and they 749 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: have six or seven games with one score, but they 750 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: get it done. And defensively, I don't know if they 751 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: talked about enough with you guys like you know Tyrn 752 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: Matthew and Frank Clark, and you know some of their corners. 753 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: So I just think strong quarterback play from all four 754 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: of these four these guys Allen's top five. I mean, 755 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong being in the MT conversation. He could 756 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: have finished third. Russell Wilson kind of flopped in the 757 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: second half. Derrick Henry, it's even though it's a regular 758 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: season award, he probably should be in the top four, 759 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. For Josh Allen, it's just a matter 760 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: of time. But I think quarterback play and then the 761 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: weapons they have on offense. There's a reason why we're 762 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: seeing these four teams in the final four. Yeah, four 763 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: of the higher scoring offenses in the league, you do 764 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: need to have a decent defense, and sometimes it's even 765 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: a better defense. But the bottom line is, with apologies 766 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: to our call league Bertram Berry, offense is what has 767 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: gotten these teams to the championship game. And let's go 768 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: one by one the road to Super Bowl fifty five. 769 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: We will start with the first game one oh five 770 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: pm kickoff, Arizona time, and this will be on Fox. 771 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: The NFC matchup Buccaneers at Packers Snow is in the 772 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: forecast at last check, so lambeau Field could be a 773 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: little bit cold. But this is the first postseason meeting 774 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: fourth overall between Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. They ranked 775 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: first and fourth among quarterbacks with the most career passing 776 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the postseason. They did meet earlier in the year. 777 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: In fact, it was Week six in Green Bay. The 778 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: weather was great. Buccaneers won that contest thirty eight to ten. 779 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: They spotted the Packers ten points and then scored thirty 780 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: eight unanswered. I'm guessing, MJ that is not going to 781 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: be the case this coming Sunday. Yeah, and again, this 782 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: is going to be a great chess match. We know that, 783 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: you know Todd Bull's defenses. You know, usually you know, 784 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: get off to a slow start and then you see 785 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: them get better as a season progresses. In their healthy 786 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: Devin White was obviously a guy that probably one of 787 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: the best players on the field. Number they call him 788 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: DW forty five. And then you throw in Sue and 789 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: JP Paul and the way their secondaries playing between Davis 790 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: and Bunting, I mean, they're they're getting production. And so 791 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: when you look at that standpoint, Todd's gonna bring the blitz. 792 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna make it uncomfortable for Aaron Rodgers. Now we 793 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: know that they are down their left tackle and David BAKTIERI, 794 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's going to be high scoring. 795 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to make some stops. If 796 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: they get ten possessions, you know, you're gonna have to 797 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: limit their possessions. We know special teams and defensive touchdowns 798 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: getting magnified, especially in a game like this. But the 799 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: fact that Tom Brady's four teams start in the conference, 800 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it earlier in the week 801 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: where Joe Montana had seven. Now Brady's nine and four 802 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: in these games. Now he's nine and four in these games, 803 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: and you know, you look at his postseason games, He's 804 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: got forty three wins, twelve thousand yards passing seventy seven touchdowns. 805 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the most in any player. He's got 806 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: some weapons, and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Gronk. 807 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't look I didn't look this up 808 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: until yesterday, But when you look look at receptions, yards 809 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: and touchdowns, Gronk has the most in NFL history. Wow. 810 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: And that's because he's had opportunities. Now he's just the 811 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: first time in a long time he's been able to 812 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: play a sixteen game schedule. And there are a team 813 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: that's going to have to play four games to get 814 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. So Sean Murphy Bunny is playing 815 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: really well. So it's going to be a great matchup 816 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: a chess matcher team Todd Bowls and Matt Lafleur, And 817 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: then you look at Mike Patton against Byron Leftwitch. I mean, 818 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: you're talking about quality matchups here, and there's a reason 819 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: why Todd Bowls is being mentioned for a possible head coach. 820 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: Whether it happens this year or next year, everyone's going 821 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: to focus on the quarterback matchup. Here, and it's well deserved. 822 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: You brought up Brady's fourteenth conference championship game appearance. Rodgers, 823 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: this will be his fifth career start, first though at home, 824 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: and whether that's a factor or not, who knows. But 825 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: if you can get through this contest as far as 826 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are concerned, someone else is going to have 827 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: to step up. And you look at Green Bay and 828 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, but that requires Aaron Rodgers to throw them 829 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: the ball. Can you run against this Tampa Bay defense? 830 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: And then the flip side is if you're Todd Bowles 831 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: and the Buccaneers defense, can you keep Rogers in check? 832 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: And that's been difficult to do all season long for 833 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: any upon it. Yeah, and just to give everyone a 834 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: heads up, it's interesting and maybe it's just a coincidence. 835 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: Weeks six, Matt rematches each championship contest as a rematch 836 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: or what happened during the regular season. Area says they're 837 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: a different team. And then you look at you know, 838 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: when Kansas City traveled to Buffalo, they won twenty six 839 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: to seventeen Buffalo. You know it's on a roll again. 840 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: They didn't put up as much points in these first 841 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: two playoff games, and a lot of people thought that 842 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: the Colts could have beat him if they could have 843 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: got a little bit more production out of Philip Rivers. 844 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: And then as for we know how they defeated the Packers, 845 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers. They scored their up ten nothing 846 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: in that game and they had two interceptions and yeah, 847 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: I brought the blitz there, Todd Bowles. So I don't 848 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: know how much we can take about take from that game. 849 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: It sound like it's division games, you know, it's more 850 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, conference games where you don't have the familiarity. 851 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: But I think there's something you can take what worked 852 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: and what didn't. And then for the Packers you got 853 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: to make adjustments. Are just like the Bills brought up 854 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: the meeting in week six for both of these two contests. 855 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: Let's flip it over to the AFC following Buccaneers and 856 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: Packers Bills at Chiefs four forty pm kickoff on CBS. 857 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: And again this is kickoff Arizona time, rain in the 858 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: forecast in Kansas City. But you got the top two 859 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: seeds in the conference and the Chiefs, as you mentioned, 860 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: did beat the Bills earlier this season. That game though 861 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: was in Buffalo and Kansas City was able to run 862 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: the football against that Bill's defense and that is why 863 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: they were able to win that contest. And I think 864 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people believe that if it is Kansas 865 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: City that comes out of this contest this weekend, it's 866 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: going to be because the Patrick Mahomes. And this is 867 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: assill mean Mahomes is playing. We do know he practiced 868 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: it on a limited basis this week I certainly believe 869 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: he will play. And if he does play, then that's 870 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: certainly going to make things a lot more difficult for 871 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo to get past Kansas City. Yeah, and you know, 872 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: you know Sean McDermott, three out of the last four 873 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: seasons as head coach the Bill has been in the playoffs. 874 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: You know, he's worked with Andy Reid for a long time. 875 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: McDermott has coached five conference championships and two Super Bowls 876 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: under Andy Reid. I want to say he was a 877 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: replacement to the league Jim Johnson, who was a long 878 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: time coordinator, one of the best ever. And he is 879 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: his first championship game appearance as a head coach, so 880 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: he does have playoff experience. Obviously, when you move over 881 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: a different seat, you're the head coach. Josh Allen put 882 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: up a you know, forty five hundred passing yards, thirty 883 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, eight rushing touchdowns, became the first player with 884 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: at least forty five hundred passing, five touchdown passes, and 885 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: five rushing touchdowns in a single season in NFL history. 886 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: We know Stefan Diggs, you know he's He's had at 887 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: least six catches in fifteen consecutive games, including the postseason. 888 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 1: That would tie Wes Welker and Tony o'brown and Marvin 889 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: Harrison for the longest streak in NFL history. Again, curious 890 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: to see if they move him around. Are we going 891 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: to see them play man to man or zone because 892 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,720 Speaker 1: we know that Josh Allen can run outside the pocket. 893 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: He's big enough to you know, get first down where 894 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: Rivers was stationary he couldn't do that. So it's going 895 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: to be interesting. Just the chess match there. When it 896 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: comes to Leslie Fraser and then Andy Reid, you know 897 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: the play called Leslie Frasier. He is having an interview 898 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans. I think that's the only spot. 899 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: Also Eric the enemy and then the coordinator with the Colts, 900 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator there, So we'll see what happens. But 901 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser did a really good job in the previous 902 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: playoff game. We'll see if he can do it against 903 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: a different team that's gotten more wor speed than I 904 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 1: would say the Indianapolis Coach Stars Chiefs offense very very good, 905 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: very very explosive. Yet the defense doesn't get talked a 906 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: lot about. But let's point out one player in particular 907 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: who might be having one of his better seasons, and 908 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: he had a good season last year for the defending 909 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, and that's Tyrn Matthew. Cardinal fans know 910 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: all about the Honey Badger as far as his instincts, 911 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: his ability to get to the football quicker than sometimes 912 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: the receiver is able to get to the football. But 913 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: Tyrn Matthews certainly has played big so far this season 914 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: and this playoff run as well. Wouldn't surprise me if 915 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: he came up with another interception or cause some disruption 916 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: for that Bill's offense. Yeah, and it was a play 917 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: last week where he was coming off to the edge 918 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: and he got pancaked and it was for a tackle 919 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: for loss. So basically the defense won. And he kind 920 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: of said tackle for loss and then him and the 921 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: lineman kind of just patted to each other like, Okay, 922 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, Pancake got right back up. I mean, 923 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Pound for pound, I mean, this guy 924 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: gets it done. We've interviewed him. He's not the biggest 925 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: guy in the world, but he plays hard. He's smart. 926 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: He watches a lot of film. You could see he's 927 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: able to read things with his eyes and that's very 928 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: important when you play in that secondary. Yeah, I mean, 929 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: but you know, I think Josh Allen's going to challenge 930 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: those guys. They got three legit wide receivers. Now, Cole Beasley, 931 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: he didn't catch a single pass in that last game, 932 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: but you know what he told Stefan Diggs after the game, 933 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue to be open. So in other words, 934 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: if Diggs is gonna get all the targets, he's open. 935 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: And then we know John Brown had six catches. Gives 936 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: them another dimension there. They do throw their tight ends 937 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: and knocks, so they do have some weapons. Now, when 938 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: you look at the Bills, they had five players that 939 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: were selected for the Pro Bowl. Obviously, when you win 940 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of games, Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs, Traymond Udman's, 941 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts former Cardinal, and the Tredevious White. Now when 942 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: it comes to Patrick Mahomes, he's recorded at least one 943 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:05,479 Speaker 1: touchdown pass, the one rushing touchdown, and three consecutive postseason games. 944 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 1: That's tied with Steve Young, longest in NFL history. Tyreek Hill. 945 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: You know he had eight catches for one hundred and 946 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: ten yards. Travis Kelsey. I didn't realize this. He finished 947 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: second among players with fourteen hundred and sixteen receiving yards. 948 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: That's the most in the single receiving yards for a 949 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: tight end. He had one hundred and three receptions last year, 950 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: hit one hundred and five this year and became the 951 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: first tight end of history with at least one hundred 952 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: receptions in multiple seasons. I mean, we talk about targets. 953 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is like a built a wide 954 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: receiver play in that position. And it's what surprises me 955 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: because the speed with Hill, and then we'll see how 956 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: about Watkins, he's always kind of injured. Michael Hardman. When 957 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: you look at that, Kelsey's always wide open. It's amazing 958 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: how his wide opening he gets. You would think you 959 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: would double him or bracket him with a safety or 960 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: a linebacker. But you know, he's he's I mean, he's 961 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: a weapon. I mean it's not like you know, I 962 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: don't know if you double team, because you got to 963 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 1: pick your poison when it comes to covering those those receivers. 964 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: And if they get their rookie running back back, they're 965 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have a nice two headed monster with 966 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: the running game. I like the home team in both 967 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: of these contests, although it wouldn't surprise me if the 968 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and Bills are the teams that play in Super 969 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty five. So prediction time, MJ. Who are we 970 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: talking about next week here on Cardinals Cover two? A 971 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: two week run up to Super Bowl fifty five? What 972 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: are the two teams that are gonna win this weekend? 973 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, people are asking me if I'm rooting for 974 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 1: Bruce arians I mean, I like Bruce. I like cover them. 975 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,839 Speaker 1: You know, the last couple of years, I thought things 976 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: got a little you know, sideways from a standpoint. Maybe 977 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: they got fat and happy, you know, winning those those 978 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: ten eleven and thirteen games. Uh No, I like what 979 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: the Packers have done. I'm going to pick the Packers 980 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: in this game, and you know, nothing against the Buccaneers. 981 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady obviously, he's the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. 982 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: To have another one on his mantle would be just 983 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think he's gonna play a couple more years. 984 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: So I do like the Packers, and you know, I 985 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: hate to go against the Bills two weeks in a row, 986 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: and I take it to the Super Bowl. I better 987 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: even not even think about it. Kind of like both 988 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 1: home teams. I just think the Chiefs are battle tested. 989 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: I think it was really important for Josh Allen and 990 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: his career to win playoff games because you know that 991 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: knock on Lamar Jackson, how far can he take you? 992 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: He's a good regular season quarterback, but could he makes 993 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: some noise in the postseason. And Josh Allen's played at 994 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: a high level. So I think that game's gonna go 995 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: toe to toe just like the other. But I do 996 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: like both home teams. All right, bird gang, you've heard 997 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 1: it here on Cardinals covered too, Mike Jarecki going with 998 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 1: the Packers and Chiefs to meet in Super Bowl fifty five. 999 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: And of course we'll talk about it next week and 1000 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: then the week after that, because we got a two 1001 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: week run up to Super Bowl fifty five, which will 1002 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: be played in Tampa. On that note, we will put 1003 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented 1004 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,839 Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Once again, 1005 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: thank you very much to Kyle Odegard joining us earlier 1006 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: on the show special. 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