Speaker 1: I am all in. I Am all in with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart radio podcast. Okay Scott Patterson, everybody,
Speaker 1: I Am all in podcast. How was Germany? Germany was
Speaker 1: their shoon? Oh what does that mean? Very pretty? It
Speaker 1: was very good. German fans are just fantastic. There's so
Speaker 1: many of them. Oh, they love Gilmore girls. It's huge
Speaker 1: in that country because so random. Who does your voice?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but it doesn't probably
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like mine at all. No, that'd be
Speaker 1: so cool to like, we should do that eventually, like
Speaker 1: to talk to the people that do the voices of you.
Speaker 1: That would be fun. That's a great idea. Actually, that's
Speaker 1: a great idea. So they dubbed it. It's not like subtitles.
Speaker 1: It's dubbed. Yeah, it might be not you know, it's dubbed,
Speaker 1: but everybody could get. But the thing is everybody over
Speaker 1: there speaks English very well. I mean they learned all
Speaker 1: over Scandinavia too. They learn it from the time. My
Speaker 1: cousin lives in Germany. So it's it was a great event,
Speaker 1: and thank you Dortmund and German Comic Con. It was
Speaker 1: fantastic time. Danielle cat out your tongue. I was about
Speaker 1: to say, my uncle lives in Germany. I no one cares.
Speaker 1: No one cares, they care, I care, I care. Where
Speaker 1: in Germany does your uncle live. He lives in Munich,
Speaker 1: a beautiful city. What city were you in? You said
Speaker 1: that like four seconds? Germany and they have their their
Speaker 1: city market, Christmas tree, Christmas lights presentation is the finest
Speaker 1: in the world. They have largest Christmas tree on the
Speaker 1: planet in dortmun in the city center. It's are you
Speaker 1: sure it's the largest. It's at least a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty ft high. It makes taller than way taller like
Speaker 1: it's it's massive. It's it's so big that you just
Speaker 1: you stand there and gawk at it, like are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Did an alien civilization come, you know, bring
Speaker 1: this down and and and fasten it to the ground
Speaker 1: somehow secure it? I mean, it's it's unbelievable. O, my god,
Speaker 1: Nolan does Christmas like the German like the Christmas markets,
Speaker 1: the decorations, like people in the U. S. Think, Like
Speaker 1: Christmas in New York is a spectacle, Like you have
Speaker 1: not been to Germany. I mean it is. I mean
Speaker 1: New York is a spectacle is great, but Germany. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you been to Germany? Daniel? Yeah, I said he'd
Speaker 1: road there when I went to Yeah, and I've been
Speaker 1: back a couple of times just to visit. Got in
Speaker 1: surprising turns step of the way today onto something important
Speaker 1: our event. We have lots of questions about the event
Speaker 1: two you mean the Warner Brothers event live podcast December
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Speaker 1: if you are not in l A and you still
Speaker 1: want to watch it lives live stream ish. We'll call
Speaker 1: it live stream ish because it is. It's it's the
Speaker 1: stream of the live podcast and you'll see it all
Speaker 1: mistakes and all editing. The film crew is gonna be there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him around to all the uh Luke Steiner,
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim's uh Laurea Lize house. We're gonna jump up
Speaker 1: on St Fly. Oh yeah, we're gonna jump up on
Speaker 1: stage and do a introduce the guests and do a
Speaker 1: live podcast Q and A with the audience. People are
Speaker 1: flying in from Catman. Do I actually have a question?
Speaker 1: Is it all in the same like back lot location. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a very large area. It's but you're not like
Speaker 1: going to the other side of the lot, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's all there. It's there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's cute, but but it's it's it's a large
Speaker 1: area in terms of fitting a bunch of people, you know,
Speaker 1: in there, if they're going to have seatings. How far
Speaker 1: off a walk? It's from from Luke's Diner to Lower
Speaker 1: Lie So Luke's Diner is right across the street from
Speaker 1: Stars Hollow High School where they're building the platform in
Speaker 1: the stage to do the podcast from like a five
Speaker 1: minute walk or like a one minute walk across the
Speaker 1: stream minute it's like, I don't know, from Luke's to
Speaker 1: Laura Lize Lukes to Laurea lie Is. Oh god, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't even take a minute to get there. Oh really, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's maybe I don't know, fifty steps, seventy five steps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just across the good you cross the gazebo, you
Speaker 1: cross that area, that lawn area, and then that is
Speaker 1: so much closer than I thought. Oh yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: right there. And Mrs Kim's is is right across the room.
Speaker 1: You can tell that. I can tell that Mrs klarealized
Speaker 1: house is only like, you know, two houses down from
Speaker 1: Mrs Kemp's. Where is the dragon fluff the dragonfly set.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're setting that up, um, but
Speaker 1: I think it's right there too. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's right right there, but it's pretty close by.
Speaker 1: Everything's walking distance, I believe. Well, like if you not
Speaker 1: only if you want to come see everybody and the
Speaker 1: Gilmour girls, if you want to get your steps in
Speaker 1: for the day, it sounds like you could get a
Speaker 1: couple of thousands. But they have They have the golf carts,
Speaker 1: the huge sort of limousine golf carts that they tell
Speaker 1: along and they have you know, twenty people per section,
Speaker 1: and they're just you know, that's what we used to do.
Speaker 1: We used to film and we come out of the
Speaker 1: sound stage and we'd see the tour guides with their
Speaker 1: golf carts with all the fans and we wave and
Speaker 1: they get all happy, and it was you know, you'd
Speaker 1: see that all day, so they just that's just an
Speaker 1: ongoing thing all day. So that's what they'll do with
Speaker 1: the fans. They're very comfortable in the shade. It's wonderful. Scott.
Speaker 1: Did you know because I've done this tour before many
Speaker 1: times the Scott did you know that when they do
Speaker 1: a tour, they're like, and this is the bridge where
Speaker 1: Luke push us. That's literally like tour. It's so funny
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I remember that scene. But um and
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm wearing I have my Luke's Diner
Speaker 1: sweater ready to wear. I want one. I have it
Speaker 1: ready to go. Someone did say on Instagram that we
Speaker 1: have to check out the gift shop after there's a
Speaker 1: lot everything. Yeah, thing, I want so much stuff and
Speaker 1: I want Christmas gifts from this. I want it all. Wait. Still,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are asking us about the if
Speaker 1: they have to watch it right at the time it
Speaker 1: goes live, and the answer is no, they'll it'll be
Speaker 1: up for a week, right, Daniel, that's correct. So like,
Speaker 1: let's just say you have a Christmas holiday party that night,
Speaker 1: that's okay. You can go to your Christmas holiday party
Speaker 1: and tomorrow morning, when you're sipping your coffee, you can
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Speaker 1: believe tarn I were looking at it last night. There's
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Speaker 1: How do I figure out which one is the right one.
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Speaker 1: So much detective work we're gonna have to do, but
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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Do you mean the amazing episode?
Speaker 1: Some might say that, some might say it was amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see how you guys feel about it? What
Speaker 1: I might be on Scott's page. Oh what even I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't even understand. I just don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Here's my problem, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need the two of you, Tara and Amy two pipe
Speaker 1: out when you watch an episode, because I came in
Speaker 1: rolland hot, being like, this is going to be the
Speaker 1: best episode I have seen so far. That was my problem.
Speaker 1: I was set up for failure. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was the best ever I know, but you guys do.
Speaker 1: The two of you were like, this is such a
Speaker 1: good episode, and like everyone be quiet, quiet to watch
Speaker 1: Danielle Texas thing. I'm not reading your text. The only
Speaker 1: the only criticism I have is that either Alexis or Rory,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who's to blame. The fake crying was
Speaker 1: real bad. Actually, I thought that was really good. I
Speaker 1: thought that was the best part of the scene because
Speaker 1: she was showing us a skill set that I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen before from from Alexis. You mean being a bad
Speaker 1: fake crier. But it didn't call for real tears. It
Speaker 1: called for kind of parsical, sticky kind of fake tears.
Speaker 1: Because it was kind of half and half, because they
Speaker 1: were half real and half fakey fish, which was perfect
Speaker 1: for the tone of that scene because if you're if
Speaker 1: you're in a funeral and you're trying to make jokey
Speaker 1: jokes with you know, you know, arguably two of the
Speaker 1: best comedic actresses of our time, Lauren Graham and Melissa
Speaker 1: McCarthy for God's sake, right, and and Alexis Boddell, who's
Speaker 1: really bringing the heat and really you know, bringing a
Speaker 1: skill set to bear. Um. If I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: laughing really hard, then something's wrong. I think either I'm
Speaker 1: jet lagged from the eleven hour flight from Copenhagen, or
Speaker 1: it just wasn't that funny. I didn't find it that
Speaker 1: funny in the beginning. It's the thing that got a
Speaker 1: little funny your for me is when Kirk, you know,
Speaker 1: fell through the flower says I'm going dark. I'm going dark.
Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, the conversation between three of
Speaker 1: those three it wasn't like off the charts funny. I
Speaker 1: just kind of like sat there and watching. I agree
Speaker 1: with you on that. It was kind of I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: like it's it was kind of funny. Like, I like it.
Speaker 1: I think it was Gilmore style. Irreverence was not my
Speaker 1: favorite part. Oh well, you said it was great. Shall
Speaker 1: we say what this episode? Because yeah, okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: getting so upset. All right, let me just get this
Speaker 1: in so that everyone that's listening actually knows what. Let's
Speaker 1: sit up side, let's stand up side. So frustrated, okay,
Speaker 1: Season four, episode eleven. In the Clamor and the Clanger
Speaker 1: air day, January two thousand four, the church bells in
Speaker 1: the town square are back, but not everyone is thrilled
Speaker 1: about it. Lane's band gets a huge gig in NYC
Speaker 1: at C B g B, which pushes her to finally
Speaker 1: confront her mom. Lorela finds out Luke is living with
Speaker 1: Nicole and is not okay at all. Confront Rory confronts
Speaker 1: rumors about her at Yale, but it's not what she thinks.
Speaker 1: First of all, I guess we're we're about to get
Speaker 1: a tongue lashing from the sugar correct, Because yeah, the
Speaker 1: funeral wasn't like my faith. The funeral wasn't like my
Speaker 1: favorite scene. The fake baby couldn't have been more fake
Speaker 1: in this episode. But number one, Luke and Lorelai is
Speaker 1: a ten out of one, ten out of ten, hundred
Speaker 1: out of ten, whatever you want to give it. And
Speaker 1: awkward dot com with the laundry guy made everything worth
Speaker 1: it to me too because that was so uncomps And
Speaker 1: then when Rory confronts him, that whole thing was amazing
Speaker 1: and excuse me, Lane and her mother, that's what this
Speaker 1: was an awesome episode. But but but it was okay,
Speaker 1: So in my opinion, okay, uh, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to agree or disagree with you. I'm just gonna give
Speaker 1: you my opinion. Um, that was the most powerful part
Speaker 1: of the episode was Lane, the Lane confrontation with her
Speaker 1: mother and how that played out, because it was it
Speaker 1: really played on our hopes and dreams for that girl
Speaker 1: and for every girl who has and and and then
Speaker 1: it was disappointing because she was she was out of
Speaker 1: the house and she showed up but Yale with her
Speaker 1: with her bag and her wrote wheelie bag and toe right.
Speaker 1: It made me ask the question as a parent, you
Speaker 1: know it really and this is I think the power
Speaker 1: of the show is. Um. You know, we can criticize
Speaker 1: it on a lot of different levels, you know, artistically,
Speaker 1: but what we cannot ever ever criticize it for um
Speaker 1: is how powerful it can be when we are dealing
Speaker 1: with family and friends and and and and and interconnectedness
Speaker 1: of a community. And the power of the show was
Speaker 1: in full display when Lane was in her bedroom discussing
Speaker 1: with her mother how long she had been involved in
Speaker 1: alternative American culture against her mother's wishes. It was I mean,
Speaker 1: that's when the tears started coming. That's when you really
Speaker 1: feel because how many girls, teenage girls have confronted them,
Speaker 1: have dealt with mothers like this in one form or another,
Speaker 1: one level of severity or another. And and it was
Speaker 1: just it was everything. It represented every girl all over
Speaker 1: the world who's had struggles with their mothers, with their mothers,
Speaker 1: And that is the power of the show. It's got
Speaker 1: these universal themes that they play on and you don't
Speaker 1: know when they're gonna show up, but they're gonna show
Speaker 1: up every episod. So then that's the power of this
Speaker 1: show because it made me, as a parent, asked asked
Speaker 1: the question, do I want my child to love their
Speaker 1: life or do I want my child to be envious
Speaker 1: of somebody else's life because they feel they have a
Speaker 1: miserable life. And that was the most poignant moment of
Speaker 1: that and most revealing of character of Lane's journey through
Speaker 1: this piece is she looked, she at at Yale, she
Speaker 1: looked at Rory, and she said, I just envy you
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so jalous of your life. And it
Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. And I thought about my son, and I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought about everybody's kids and how they've how they
Speaker 1: want their children to perceive their own lives, and what
Speaker 1: is the best path forward for that, And it's just
Speaker 1: it's so powerful, It is so powerful because and and
Speaker 1: then I said to myself, you know, this show is
Speaker 1: important culturally. It's doesn't matter if it if it's looks
Speaker 1: like Succession or if it has you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or it looks like a film or this is that,
Speaker 1: None of that matters. What matters is these situations and
Speaker 1: how they make us feel totally because Mrs Kim isn't
Speaker 1: a bad mom. She's a good mom who loves her
Speaker 1: kids so much. And I love the moment when they
Speaker 1: call lorea Lie to tell Lorea Lie that Lane is
Speaker 1: with Rory, and she doesn't wait a breath before she says,
Speaker 1: I'm calling Mrs Kim And they're like you know, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: and it's because a mom knows what another mom is experiencing.
Speaker 1: And obviously Mrs Kim is up with the whole, with
Speaker 1: all the family and the friends and the fire department
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And then I thought for a moment Mrs
Speaker 1: Kim was going to say okay, like I want you
Speaker 1: to be you, and basically she sort of did, but
Speaker 1: said you can't live here, which was even more heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: If I can count how many times my dad has
Speaker 1: told me that line, I would be a millionaire, which
Speaker 1: but you can't live here. If you you can, if
Speaker 1: you're not going to buy my rules, you don't need
Speaker 1: to live here. If you want to do this or
Speaker 1: if you want to do that, go for it, do
Speaker 1: your you know, live your life, but it's not under
Speaker 1: my house. I got that all the time, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you want two, I am curfew, not under this house,
Speaker 1: not if you're living here, just the rules of the house.
Speaker 1: I can relate so much to Lane in this In
Speaker 1: this episode, although I would say, like my parents, let
Speaker 1: me do what I want, like, you know, listen to
Speaker 1: music I want, like, they weren't harsh like that, but
Speaker 1: with rules that they set forth. If I didn't want
Speaker 1: If I didn't abide by them, then I didn't need
Speaker 1: to live there. It's just how I grew up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's very relatable, very very relatable. Y, I forgive
Speaker 1: you forgave this whole episode when I saw that. First
Speaker 1: of all, I agree with you. I gave. There are
Speaker 1: two scenes the Laura, Lie and Luke and do that again, Amy,
Speaker 1: do that again. I've just completely changed. You're so powerful
Speaker 1: talk to the hand. But now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this entire episode. I agree with you. It's brilliant. Everything
Speaker 1: about it. I agree with you. Give me the hand again,
Speaker 1: Give me the hand again. I just completely flipped. Before
Speaker 1: we go to the other awesomeness in this episode, let's
Speaker 1: I want to keep talking about Lane and her mom
Speaker 1: because I guess the question is district parenting work? Like, Danielle,
Speaker 1: do you think because of the rule your dad had
Speaker 1: you turned out? I mean, obviously you turned out amazing thing.
Speaker 1: So do you think it was because of that? I
Speaker 1: think so. I mean, look like you have to sympathize
Speaker 1: like uh, or you have to understand where like at
Speaker 1: least when I look back on my childhood, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have to understand where my dad was coming from.
Speaker 1: You wanted me to be safe and at home and
Speaker 1: you know, sheltered or whatever, which is why I didn't
Speaker 1: have a twelve am curf curfew like the rest of
Speaker 1: my girlfriends or you know, like things like that. So
Speaker 1: it's like there is a protection element um and each
Speaker 1: situation is different for me personally. I'm grateful for how
Speaker 1: my parents raised me. Yeah, it's it's not just an element.
Speaker 1: It's the overarching thing, is the protection side of it.
Speaker 1: I think it can go both ways though, because I'm
Speaker 1: not saying my mom was like lower Lie. My parents
Speaker 1: were like they but they were not strict right at all.
Speaker 1: And also I didn't do anything bad because they weren't strict.
Speaker 1: I think it goes both ways. It's like I think
Speaker 1: sometimes strict parents have kids that follow the rules, and
Speaker 1: non strict parents have kids that don't do anything bad
Speaker 1: because why why would I do anything? Back, I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything. I didn't I wasn't late, like I came
Speaker 1: home on time. It's like all depends on who you are,
Speaker 1: who your parents are, and if it works for Rory
Speaker 1: Laura Liae is the opposite of Mrs Kim right, but
Speaker 1: Rory doesn't do anything bad. I mean for the most part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've each other like little moments. Lane got drunk and
Speaker 1: Rory's done a couple of things. But they both are
Speaker 1: such great kids. So is it parenting or is it
Speaker 1: just being a great or is I think in Rory's case,
Speaker 1: she's been the parent in one aspect or another her
Speaker 1: entire life. You know, she's she's oftentimes parented. True, but
Speaker 1: I still think she's a great person. Absolutely, But I
Speaker 1: think I think I think emotionally, uh, Rory is in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, far more mature than Lane. True,
Speaker 1: far more mature than your typical seventeen eighteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: May I throw something out to you, guys, I think
Speaker 1: the reason they both turned out great is because they
Speaker 1: both know they are extraordinarily loved by their parents parents parents.
Speaker 1: Even though Mrs Kim and lor Like could not be
Speaker 1: more opposite with their styles, both kids know their mom
Speaker 1: completely loves they're they're paying attention, Yes, yes, they're paying attention.
Speaker 1: And see the thing, it goes bad for kids when
Speaker 1: when when one or both stops paying attention and stops
Speaker 1: caring for whatever. Both moms are equally as involved with
Speaker 1: their daughters, because you can't say that Mrs Kim is
Speaker 1: not totally involved with Lane and obviously lorialized, completely intertwined
Speaker 1: with Rory and both both both single mothers. Who who
Speaker 1: need to be that way? The debate on Mrs Kim
Speaker 1: being single does exist though, right, like, well, there's no
Speaker 1: husband in the house. What are you talking about? There's
Speaker 1: no debate there. Yes, there was. I read like a
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like a Reddit husband
Speaker 1: that we never see, but he's like sitting and watching.
Speaker 1: There's controversy about it. We need to look that up,
Speaker 1: Like where is Lane Kim's dad? Keep talking while I
Speaker 1: look at us? Because what he was mentioned in one
Speaker 1: of the earth Yeah, they did say, you know Mr Kim. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what the Internet says. Lane's dad died or left
Speaker 1: her mom sometime during the first or second season. It's
Speaker 1: highly surprising that Lane never said anything about this on screen.
Speaker 1: Maybe she discussed it with Rory. What happened to Lane's dad? Now?
Speaker 1: This says Mr Kim is alive and well. During the
Speaker 1: town's International Spring Food Festival, Lane tells Rory, Oh, hey,
Speaker 1: my dad's here. She and Rory both then wave to
Speaker 1: none other than Mr Kim, who finally has a face.
Speaker 1: What season is that? God is We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do with festival? Wreaking deep dive? Interesting. I feel like
Speaker 1: the Girl's Revival solves the mystery of Mr Kim? What
Speaker 1: was that? That was the movies? I know what the
Speaker 1: revival is, but what was How did it get resolved?
Speaker 1: That was at the food festival? But I don't We're
Speaker 1: going to need help, this says. In the beginning of
Speaker 1: the series, they mentioned Lane's father. He is in fact
Speaker 1: the real person. He's still married to Mrs Kim because
Speaker 1: Lane often says parents, not mother. However, his whereabouts are
Speaker 1: never mentioned. I feel like the writers. I feel like
Speaker 1: the writers originally wanted Mr and Mrs Kim to be
Speaker 1: a thing, but then they realized Mrs Kim was so
Speaker 1: faller on our own, They're like, let's just focus on hearth. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a little more info. If you were wondering why
Speaker 1: Mr Kim never appeared on the show until a year
Speaker 1: in the life, Amy Sherman Palladino has a perfectly good explanation.
Speaker 1: She revealed Mr Kim wasn't necessary to build the relationship
Speaker 1: between Lane and her mother. I agree with that. I
Speaker 1: feel like this is an entire episode. Continue, so let's
Speaker 1: why don't you take us through it in order? And uh,
Speaker 1: sure thing, I think I think we've discussed the opening
Speaker 1: the funeral rocket didn't get off the launchpad on that one.
Speaker 1: And then it was the funny part for me was
Speaker 1: that saying that five people die and then being concerned
Speaker 1: about Hank Krutzman that was fine and who is flush? Right,
Speaker 1: and then thinking it's going to be poor Hank, and
Speaker 1: then Hank fell and they felt like they and I
Speaker 1: did think it was a funny out when they're like,
Speaker 1: are we the witches of East Way? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was fine. I don't know that. It's just not I
Speaker 1: don't I don't find anything funny about aging. You know,
Speaker 1: people's knees going out because they're old, they fall, you
Speaker 1: know what, nothing funny about I thought about, like that
Speaker 1: Tex to be the actor that got cast as that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got cast as the the guy that's
Speaker 1: about to die. I'm like, no, that's so sad. Anyway, continue,
Speaker 1: all right, Amy's industry extreme distress. Right now, He's not
Speaker 1: even looking at us. He's going to a different table. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then we got a band practice, which was kind
Speaker 1: of hilarious for me with I just think sebat Sebastian
Speaker 1: Bach is awesome, and they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but put on a jacket before you run out into
Speaker 1: the snow storm. Oh yeah, that's true. They he was dressed.
Speaker 1: He was wearing a von Dutt shirt with the with
Speaker 1: the with the with the with it opened at the top,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, yeah, it's like degrees. He
Speaker 1: walked away and like two seconds, laters like guess what
Speaker 1: we got a gig? Is if? It was like okay,
Speaker 1: like that was, Oh my god, you're pretty good. You're
Speaker 1: pretty good, Gil And I thought the reindeer sweater was cute,
Speaker 1: the leopard shirt Lane had on, the Von Dutch shirt
Speaker 1: Sebastian had on, and that but he brings sandwiches. I
Speaker 1: love that reference. And yeah he brings but Andy way,
Speaker 1: so you guys are still not hooked in on it.
Speaker 1: We're still we're still in the launchpad. We're still waiting
Speaker 1: to lift off. I did like the how how it
Speaker 1: was winter in the snow, and I did enjoy the winter. Yes,
Speaker 1: did you like lorealize amazing coat with the fur collar.
Speaker 1: When when did we see this? Right as we go
Speaker 1: after band practice to them walking intown the fourth snow
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, great debate. That's my takeaway from
Speaker 1: the episode is that coat I cling to that I
Speaker 1: cling I was clinging to that coat until we got
Speaker 1: to the langue. You mock, but I was ready to
Speaker 1: hit eBay again, try and find that thing. Maybe just
Speaker 1: a by the time we're done with this show a
Speaker 1: bomb of stuff that she ordered. I would wear that coat.
Speaker 1: I would totally wear that coat. And I tried to
Speaker 1: get the dog sweater I got like a fake version
Speaker 1: of it. It's just let's let's do a shout out
Speaker 1: to Brenda Maybon for killing it on the world. She's
Speaker 1: killing it on the world totally, totally. All the bells
Speaker 1: are ringing. The bells are a chiman the bells. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of bells in a small town. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're gonna do ten at ten and
Speaker 1: eleven and eleven and twice a day, it can't get
Speaker 1: a little much at It was beautiful the first time
Speaker 1: when I got the pause. Yeah, and guys, we go
Speaker 1: to lanes and we see rate Rommi Malick. The second
Speaker 1: he showed up on screen. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's such a baby. He's so cute, so cute. And
Speaker 1: then they're sitting around and wanting to get Pastor Chow
Speaker 1: or assistant Pastor Eric and yeahda the YadA, and then
Speaker 1: Rory walks in with the book, which is really a
Speaker 1: whole transport. Yeah. So obviously this scene is just sort
Speaker 1: of building up a little bit too. The blow us
Speaker 1: still on the launchpad. I'll admit that was the launch pad,
Speaker 1: but you had to have that to launch. But now
Speaker 1: we're like four or five scenes into the episode and
Speaker 1: we're still like team minus, you know, we're waiting for
Speaker 1: a little take off here a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1: Then we get another important scene, which is we're in
Speaker 1: the dorm. First of all, I don't know any dorms
Speaker 1: that are that beautiful that have a fireplace. I know,
Speaker 1: I still have like a bone to pick with the
Speaker 1: fireplaces in all these dorm rooms. I'm just like, first
Speaker 1: of all, that's like a hazard. There's no chance, like all,
Speaker 1: what dorms of a roaring fire? Correct? Why would you
Speaker 1: trust drunken college students with a fire? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think that you I don't know any dorms
Speaker 1: that have fireplaces. I was trying to remember if our
Speaker 1: sorority had a fire is, and I doubt it. First
Speaker 1: of all, who knows how to light of flat fire
Speaker 1: when they're that age? I don't know how now right
Speaker 1: there with you, I have one in my house and
Speaker 1: you're just I'm like, I'm like, dad, ken, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: If it's not a dirt flame, it's not getting lit.
Speaker 1: I've lived in the house I'm in right now for
Speaker 1: twenty years and it has a fireplace, and I have
Speaker 1: no idea how to turn it on. That's turn it on,
Speaker 1: it's gas. Yeah, I think it needs like the log
Speaker 1: and like you have to have a match. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to do any of the babies are here
Speaker 1: like rubbing. I can do the fireplaces that are like
Speaker 1: a button in my old house. In my old house,
Speaker 1: I had a massive fireplace. The house was built and
Speaker 1: it had a gas line where you would turn on
Speaker 1: the gas line underneath the kindling. You didn't really even
Speaker 1: need kindling. You just need to put the logs in
Speaker 1: and light it up. But I like to build a
Speaker 1: traditional fire with the newspaper and then the kindling wood
Speaker 1: and then the law and you have to have a match. No,
Speaker 1: you just needed to turn on that. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like a metal pipe that had holes in it.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to light it. You lit that because
Speaker 1: the gas would come out of that and it would
Speaker 1: like that, it would light the log. Yeah. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: need to match the right. To me, that's so scary.
Speaker 1: The match and then that's that's all it is. It's
Speaker 1: not a big deal. I mean, you're not putting your
Speaker 1: face near it. You're just like lightening it. You'd have
Speaker 1: to have those long matches and we would have these
Speaker 1: these glorious massive fires, uh in the fireplace, and they're great.
Speaker 1: They were just great. I don't think you can really
Speaker 1: do it anymore anywhere. I mean we just you know,
Speaker 1: we did Thanksgiving in Colorado at our place and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know we have a wood burning Yeah I have
Speaker 1: one here. But although we do have a spare the
Speaker 1: air days where you can't light the fire, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to protect anyway, fireplace one oh one will continue bare
Speaker 1: the air. That's a very catchy title. Through the air there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: y all live in California. Through the air we have that.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Gosh, okay. So the other bone
Speaker 1: to pick I had with the I'm gonna go light
Speaker 1: a fire in my gas fireplace. Did you see the
Speaker 1: dude fully laying the like background actor fully laying on
Speaker 1: the bench in the door like a hard bench reading
Speaker 1: his book. Eagle eyes that watching the episode along with
Speaker 1: us because it was still on the launchpad. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I disagree. Once we get to Yale, things start picking up.
Speaker 1: So Paris and Rory are together, and then how funny
Speaker 1: every time she says a certain fella to told me
Speaker 1: about it and really just wants to pew. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: I think this is where we learn about laundry room
Speaker 1: guy when those two girls are telling the story, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was about free I did too, from
Speaker 1: that one time when she totally okay. So then now
Speaker 1: we're back at the diner and this is this is
Speaker 1: where it launches. So the bells are a chiman yes,
Speaker 1: which is just so epic. I love it. Also, Kurt
Speaker 1: Kurt has you don't want you know what, here's my
Speaker 1: opinion on why she got sofa tust because she loves you.
Speaker 1: I think it's more than or it might be less
Speaker 1: than that. I think it's more about laurelized need to
Speaker 1: have this kind of stability in her life, whether it's
Speaker 1: a committed relationship or not. She wants to know that
Speaker 1: Luke is there, being Luke and living upstairs. That's what
Speaker 1: she comforts her. It's part of what comforts her, right,
Speaker 1: And such a shocking change. I'm with a woman in
Speaker 1: Litchfield now and I got an apartment. That's shocking, and
Speaker 1: that that that scrambles her eggs and well, that's a
Speaker 1: bad Actually that's a good thing. That's a good thing,
Speaker 1: you know, that that's that's that's shocking for a person
Speaker 1: or anybody in a small town who needs that kind
Speaker 1: of stability, And it's like especially for her. And if
Speaker 1: you mix in the element of her personal feelings, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's gonna get she's gonna get angry a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I think but I think he represents more than
Speaker 1: that to the show and to her then just hey,
Speaker 1: I want to maybe date him. I'm starting to have
Speaker 1: feelings for this guy, you know. I think it's more
Speaker 1: about just just characters being in their place, you know,
Speaker 1: staying put. You know. So I'm gonna agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think of what you're saying. I think You're correct
Speaker 1: for what is fifty percent of lorrel to me, the
Speaker 1: other half of lot Lie is because she loves Luke.
Speaker 1: She just is totally aware of it, right, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, And that was and she was confused
Speaker 1: by her own feelings. She didn't understand how powerful they
Speaker 1: would be. Because it's the same flipping her lid that
Speaker 1: she's done a couple of times when she feels like
Speaker 1: she's losing you. That's what I think. And nobody likes
Speaker 1: to have the rug pulled out from under them that
Speaker 1: way and get this new piece of information that is
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't consulted on or told about, and
Speaker 1: you know, all of those feelings of inadequacy come flooding in. Well,
Speaker 1: am I not your friend? And why didn't you tell me?
Speaker 1: I mean everybody goes through that, So did you find it?
Speaker 1: Danielle Tara shocking? The way she reacted or made sense
Speaker 1: made sense to me, just face off of like how
Speaker 1: she freaked out with the other stuff with Nicole, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was. You know, I think also like this
Speaker 1: is uh psychiatrist Danielle coming out. I think a part
Speaker 1: of it is also like she likes to have control
Speaker 1: over Luke, like she likes to know that he's in
Speaker 1: her corner at all times and that she can always
Speaker 1: count on him and he's always available to her and
Speaker 1: all those type of things. And I feel like when
Speaker 1: that starts to spiral out of control, she gets really
Speaker 1: worked up. Um. I don't know if at this point
Speaker 1: she necessarily realizes that she, you know, loves him, but
Speaker 1: it's more of like like, I don't think she acknowledged
Speaker 1: like I love this guy, can't let him go. I
Speaker 1: think she's like, who's going to take care of these
Speaker 1: things for me? Now that another girl is in the picture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think her heart is ahead of her head. So
Speaker 1: like she finds out like, oh, he moved to another county,
Speaker 1: and her heart is immediately like in pain, but she
Speaker 1: just might not be aware of why that changes the
Speaker 1: whole dynamic of her life in regards to her relationship
Speaker 1: with Luke, because now there can no longer be Luke
Speaker 1: come over, I need this, or Luke come over this,
Speaker 1: or Luke come over I'm scared and Luke come over,
Speaker 1: you know, I need this. I need to talk about something,
Speaker 1: and Rory whatever, there's no longer the friend that's in
Speaker 1: town that she can rely on that. But think about it.
Speaker 1: Think about this. Think about you've got a friend, right
Speaker 1: and it's purely platonic, and they're like going to move
Speaker 1: to another couple of cities over you don't give him,
Speaker 1: you don't care. The crush your love even if you're
Speaker 1: not like totally aware, tells you they're moving and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have the sinking pit. That's because
Speaker 1: you love them, right. But I also don't think that
Speaker 1: her delivery is just not great. Like for me, I
Speaker 1: was just like Laura, I like, take a minute. I'm
Speaker 1: just like Laura. I take a minute and then think
Speaker 1: about what you want to say and then say it.
Speaker 1: But all right, but she's not that way. She's never
Speaker 1: know I know, which, which again that's why I like
Speaker 1: what I don't think. But back to my point, I
Speaker 1: don't think Lorela thinks she likes him like. I don't
Speaker 1: think she's like it's moving to a different city is broken.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think. I think she doesn't realize
Speaker 1: she likes Luke until she's about to lose him. Every time.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think she walks down the
Speaker 1: street thinking about Luke. You just you just said every
Speaker 1: time I think about him, because she's always with him.
Speaker 1: You just said every before she loses him every time.
Speaker 1: Exactly How did you not know after the first time
Speaker 1: when Luke told you that he was getting married, that
Speaker 1: you like this guy, like this is already like three
Speaker 1: times down the road. Likely he told her he was married,
Speaker 1: she wanted to die. Okay, but you get what I'm
Speaker 1: saying at a certain point, like yeah, you know whether
Speaker 1: you have feelings or not when you talk about a
Speaker 1: slow burn. Wow, this is masterful. This is masterful. Actually,
Speaker 1: how happy is she relationship that's so exactly so much?
Speaker 1: She's so happy each time she realizes, for example, he
Speaker 1: tells her he's married, she wants to die, She's losing
Speaker 1: her mind. She looks like she's going to cry, and
Speaker 1: then almost immediately he says, but I'm divorced or I'm
Speaker 1: getting divorced, and she's like, oh my god. Same thing
Speaker 1: with this. She wants to cry and her heartbreaks when
Speaker 1: he says he moved, and then when she goes to
Speaker 1: the apartment and realized he didn't move, she's so happy immediately.
Speaker 1: So it's like she just I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: She loves him. She just doesn't totally know it. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of the same saying the
Speaker 1: same thing. I don't think she actually knows that she
Speaker 1: loves Luke. I think right now what she's concerned about
Speaker 1: is losing him out of convenience for her. Here's the question, though,
Speaker 1: do you think Aim and Tara and Danielle do you
Speaker 1: think that Luke thinks or knows realizes at this point
Speaker 1: that he can no longer make the move that Laureli
Speaker 1: is the one who wants to make the move, and
Speaker 1: Laureli is waiting for what? In other words, what is
Speaker 1: waiting Laureli waiting for what set of circumstances have to
Speaker 1: come to the fore for her to make her move?
Speaker 1: Because we now know that Laureli needs to be in control.
Speaker 1: She's a little bit out of control. She freaks a
Speaker 1: little bit, right, that's her world, and she wants to
Speaker 1: make the move. She wants all of her her her
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say puppets, but she needs all the
Speaker 1: players in her play to be in their place for
Speaker 1: her to be happy, and and and and Luke. That
Speaker 1: was very well said. So what is what is it
Speaker 1: gonna take for her to make her move on Luke
Speaker 1: when she's good and ready. Right, when is she going
Speaker 1: to be ready? Laurie's Rory's away now, right, she's an
Speaker 1: empty nest or this would be the perfect time. So
Speaker 1: it seems to be you know, uh, this storyline with
Speaker 1: Nicole seems to be impacting her a Laura line a
Speaker 1: very big way because maybe now she's preparing to make
Speaker 1: her move and to sort of do it in her way,
Speaker 1: in her time, right, Because certainly, um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Would you say that Luke has tried to make his
Speaker 1: move and has been rebuffed many many times. I think
Speaker 1: he has tried to make his pre move and he's
Speaker 1: been it's been weird, right, I don't think there's ever
Speaker 1: been the grand move. I think I think by being
Speaker 1: always willing to help her, like he's showing that he cares,
Speaker 1: like you know, that's his way of making his move, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need me to come over and fix the toaster,
Speaker 1: of course will be let's skip ahead, so we'll go
Speaker 1: out of order. Why does he come after their blow up?
Speaker 1: Why does he come over and start clearing the path?
Speaker 1: Because that's what he does. He's old, reliable, he's a guy,
Speaker 1: that doesn't let these sort of you know, temporary conflicts
Speaker 1: affect who he is. And he wants her to be
Speaker 1: safe and get the car out of the driveway, and
Speaker 1: he cares, you know, he doesn't want to know. Luke
Speaker 1: knows how much he cares about Lorila. He knows, he
Speaker 1: knows in his heart he and you can see that,
Speaker 1: like he cares about her so much that if she
Speaker 1: was just like I love you, he would be jumping
Speaker 1: right in, like he he knows, I would be jumping
Speaker 1: in with both feet if he got to go right.
Speaker 1: It's just he doesn't know how to. He just he's
Speaker 1: very awkward getting there right. But I think he goes
Speaker 1: over there. Okay, so like you've never gotten a fight
Speaker 1: with somebody and then you like like your boyfriend or
Speaker 1: husband or wife or whatever, and then you call them
Speaker 1: right immediately, you know, like you make up some reason,
Speaker 1: like I know we're mad at each other, but the
Speaker 1: car is making a funny noise for dinner. It's like
Speaker 1: he went he has this blow up and it's like
Speaker 1: upsetting to him. He figures out, Okay, even if we're
Speaker 1: still fighting, I need to connect with her. So he
Speaker 1: goes over to clear the snow and then they get
Speaker 1: into a bigger fight. But he that was like him,
Speaker 1: like that was so typical couples, you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what that was for those two And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and cover your ears if you're
Speaker 1: faint a heart. That was their sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They do it with their clothes on, yelling at each other.
Speaker 1: It's their passion. That's their passion. It's all bottled up
Speaker 1: and not expressed, and it's all fustnection. They're connecting. So
Speaker 1: even when they're not getting along, it's like Rory calls
Speaker 1: it out. She goes, this is what you guys do.
Speaker 1: You fight, you make up, You're fine because it's they're
Speaker 1: always connected. Yeah, you gotta read between the lines. You know.
Speaker 1: You don't get to tell me what to do. I
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. I don't know you anything.
Speaker 1: Which And she went out with love and her heart,
Speaker 1: putting her sweet coat on, and she wanted to be
Speaker 1: like wakes over and then he doubled down. Then let's
Speaker 1: just play this part through. We'll go a little out
Speaker 1: of order. There's no apology, there's no even acknowledging it.
Speaker 1: She just shows up and it's like they just he
Speaker 1: she walks in, and by walking in, she's forgiven because
Speaker 1: he's basically like Caesar, oh you're forgiven, and she's like,
Speaker 1: let's go get those bills. And then they're like, but
Speaker 1: that was the perfect excuse not to even acknowledge what
Speaker 1: had happened before. Well, it's more sex now. It's exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because now it's yes, because now they're
Speaker 1: connecting again. You don't they're so intertwined, don't even have
Speaker 1: to acknowledge the fight. There's no any of that. It's
Speaker 1: just like, oh, here I am again. We're just always
Speaker 1: going to be together, right. They they get they get
Speaker 1: to regress into sort of high school antics and sabotage
Speaker 1: the church bells, and then we were about to have
Speaker 1: the moment. That was the moment, except for the reverend
Speaker 1: interrupted that that was the moment, right. It's it's masterful,
Speaker 1: It's it's such a roller coaster ride with these two.
Speaker 1: It's just absolutely masters If the reverend didn't come in,
Speaker 1: was that the kiss? They're making their own church bells,
Speaker 1: making their own gun bells, let me tell you. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's my question for you both. Tara and Scott
Speaker 1: was Laurel right or even justified to being so upset
Speaker 1: about him and the move to literally a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it was a cinem o
Speaker 1: mission on Luke's part. I mean, he wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 1: honoring the friendship or their can action at all. He
Speaker 1: was just sort of that was an indication that he
Speaker 1: was disconnecting from her, when maybe it wasn't his intent,
Speaker 1: but that's how she perceived it, that he was really
Speaker 1: unplugging from her, and that scared the heck out. I
Speaker 1: just I don't blame her. I don't blame her at all.
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird that, like it's not like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to move next week. It's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I've I've been gone, like I don't live here anything like.
Speaker 1: I think that's the part where I was like, why
Speaker 1: why didn't you try? That's almost like an f you,
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's almost like you know, a dish served cold.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I already did it, and you don't mean
Speaker 1: but he didn't even do anything. He moved and he
Speaker 1: didn't tell her, and he didn't he didn't bother. But
Speaker 1: how happy is she when she realizes he didn't move
Speaker 1: at all. He didn't move. Why did he even say
Speaker 1: he moved because he didn't move, Um, she moved or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but he but he
Speaker 1: was coming back once in a while. I mean, he
Speaker 1: didn't move. He didn't take any clothes. He lives at
Speaker 1: his apartment. He never sleeps there. He did not. She's
Speaker 1: like she basically was like, you're a bad house guest
Speaker 1: because he like just goes over there and like uses
Speaker 1: her pots and pants and eats her food and leaves
Speaker 1: and that's well. I think he's got a pad in
Speaker 1: Litchfield with her, and then he's got his own pat right.
Speaker 1: I mean, so he didn't know. He doesn't even live
Speaker 1: there because he doesn't want to live there. If you
Speaker 1: why is he telling her that he did that? Then
Speaker 1: not a liar. He's not deceptive. He's no. I don't.
Speaker 1: That's a great question because I guess maybe technically he
Speaker 1: had a conversation with her, with Nicole saying let's live together,
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, let's try that. But it was
Speaker 1: bull Think you think he's just messing with her to
Speaker 1: gauge No, I think he I think he's knows that
Speaker 1: right now, he can't have rely right, whether this is
Speaker 1: conscious or sub conscious, and he's married to Nicole and
Speaker 1: they've agreed to like try, right, he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: actually try. He's fake trying. He's like, yeah, okay, we
Speaker 1: live together, so he's like single orly we lived together,
Speaker 1: but like, if you love someone, wouldn't you sleep there?
Speaker 1: I just look, Luke feels like he's a little bit
Speaker 1: of out of his league with Laura Line. He does.
Speaker 1: He wants her badly, he's in love with her. He
Speaker 1: sees the guys she dates. He just maybe he just
Speaker 1: feels a little bit inadequate in that way, not as
Speaker 1: a man, but as you know, somebody that is not
Speaker 1: of her social order. I think that just the big
Speaker 1: move hasn't happened yet. He's been to Emily and Richard's house, right,
Speaker 1: he's been there. Didn't he go when when Richard have
Speaker 1: a heart attack or he went to the hospital. But
Speaker 1: but he's been to the house and Emily insulted his truck,
Speaker 1: and he's been to dinner. He's seen that. He's seen Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he went. Yes, he dressed she called him
Speaker 1: the iceman, remember, Yeah, it was that was at the
Speaker 1: party at Rory's. Remember Emily and Richard come to the party,
Speaker 1: and she met you a few times now because she's
Speaker 1: been to the diner. I'm not sure you've been to
Speaker 1: their house yet. I have been to the house because
Speaker 1: she made a comment about his truck that was insulting.
Speaker 1: She insulted the you know what out of him, the
Speaker 1: familiar to me. He's been there, so I think I
Speaker 1: think there's something. I think there's some hesitation on his
Speaker 1: part because he kind of instinctively knows that it's it's
Speaker 1: doomed a failure based on what she comes from, no
Speaker 1: matter what she's doing in stars, how long she's been there,
Speaker 1: she's just a different animal from than him, you know,
Speaker 1: even though it's I just think he's just right. I
Speaker 1: just think he's sort of going through the motions. Like
Speaker 1: think back, like when you were like I don't know,
Speaker 1: in college, and you kind of dated somebody even though
Speaker 1: you're not the one, but you're like, oh I need
Speaker 1: to date them, or or you're like you have the
Speaker 1: crush on someone else but they're not really giving it
Speaker 1: to you, So you date other people, but you know
Speaker 1: it's not real that college. I had a crush on
Speaker 1: a girl. I never approached her. I never approached Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just Nicole is just like he doesn't really like her,
Speaker 1: or he'd be living there. He's not even sleeping there. Well, listen, man,
Speaker 1: it's not called the you know, it's not called Luke
Speaker 1: and Nicole. It's called Luke and Laurel Eze. I think
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with you. Okay, So let's go
Speaker 1: to the scene with Laurel I and Suki. They're looking
Speaker 1: through design books and Laurel eye upset facus baby I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life? How fake was that baby?
Speaker 1: That's like a solid rubber baby. That wasn't even good
Speaker 1: acting because my things like, okay, so here's my fake baby. Right,
Speaker 1: if you're going to pick up the baby, you'd be like,
Speaker 1: you'd like they just did this. It was like so fake.
Speaker 1: I'm like, at least do good fake acting with the
Speaker 1: fake baby. It's it's hard to do. It's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine a rubber baby's a real baby. A real baby.
Speaker 1: You're just you know, it's hard to right, they're not.
Speaker 1: They kind of move with fake rubber babies before. Sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: what I mean you wouldn't treat a real baby that way.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. Just this is what they're doing. And they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, they're doing exactly, that's how you treat
Speaker 1: it in an animate object. You sorry, my fake baby
Speaker 1: hit the microphone. Child Child Bottle Services is going to
Speaker 1: show up and remove that bottle from your home. Oh.
Speaker 1: I did make one other notes, sorry to go back courts.
Speaker 1: I also made a note that he did the walk.
Speaker 1: He shoveled the walk because he felt guilty for not
Speaker 1: telling her about his fake movie. It's just he does
Speaker 1: it every year. He does it every snowstorm. He helps
Speaker 1: her out. Yeah, and he cares, and he cares, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he cares. He's not doing that for anybody else. He
Speaker 1: might be doing it for the old couple down the street,
Speaker 1: but they're probably definitely not doing it right. No, he's
Speaker 1: not doing it for anybody yet. Yeah, he's taking care
Speaker 1: of her man, you know, in his way. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think he loves her. I'm not that I'm dis that.
Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about Paris for a minute and
Speaker 1: that scene. First of all, the skinny scarf alive and
Speaker 1: while Paris, But let's talk about that scene in that
Speaker 1: class or that special whatever they were at that special
Speaker 1: thing or that club or whatever. It was Internet and
Speaker 1: Long Rule Rage club. Yeah, laundry guys there, and Rory
Speaker 1: loses her her bleep. I mean, but for her for
Speaker 1: saying something, but also like Rory, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: because she goes off in that that club thinking he's
Speaker 1: the guy. So she's using that sort of like innuendo
Speaker 1: or whatever you'd call it, like using the conversation, but
Speaker 1: really she's talking to the dude, and she was trying
Speaker 1: so hard not to look at him. It was like painful.
Speaker 1: And then the pencil flew. I thought that holds. The
Speaker 1: whole storyline was good. And then when she confronts him,
Speaker 1: we'll skip ahead and it wasn't even her. I actually
Speaker 1: thought they were going to ask each other out again.
Speaker 1: I thought so too, actually, but she just walked away.
Speaker 1: It would have been I think it would have been
Speaker 1: better if she they asked each other out. I love
Speaker 1: this episode, what the hell? But you don't. You can
Speaker 1: continue to love the episode. You don't need us to
Speaker 1: love it too. For you to love it and enjoy
Speaker 1: it and take it through your entire life loving it.
Speaker 1: You can chaerish it you can cherish it at all
Speaker 1: stages of your life like a chairish it like a
Speaker 1: fake baby. Am I to understand that Luke broke the
Speaker 1: bells the first time? Um? That was what? I interesting question?
Speaker 1: That is a really penetrating deep question. Are you are
Speaker 1: you serious? No? But it isn't It isn't interesting question.
Speaker 1: It is who who sabotaged him in the first place.
Speaker 1: I think it was Luke because I he alluded to
Speaker 1: that very subtly, and I thought, oh, yeah, well he knows,
Speaker 1: he certainly knows how to disabled them, so he's put
Speaker 1: a little study into this little research Luke and the
Speaker 1: bell tower. M And then what do we think about
Speaker 1: Lane showing up with her bag? I mean, Scott talked
Speaker 1: about a little. I just have to say, I think
Speaker 1: the reason why this is I thought this was a
Speaker 1: good episode is not like little tidbits. I think it
Speaker 1: was the bigger picture of this episode. Um. I think
Speaker 1: it was such an important episode probably the whole series
Speaker 1: for Lane, Like this really shift that character Lane and
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim Um I did. I think we already touched
Speaker 1: on it. But I did think it was good that Laurel.
Speaker 1: I was like, we have to I have to call
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim like, this is what any parent would do.
Speaker 1: And on that same note, though, you see that Mrs
Speaker 1: Kim was really affected that Lane went to Laura La
Speaker 1: and to her, and I think that's like a really
Speaker 1: I don't know, you you see a different side of
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim here because she's just super super like emotional
Speaker 1: over this whole thing. But she's still very very strict
Speaker 1: and sticking to her guns, like she's like, I am
Speaker 1: heart broken right now. But you got him about. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a Lane in my life growing up and
Speaker 1: he's still my best buddy. And he was Lane. He
Speaker 1: was the Lane to my room and my mom was Laurela.
Speaker 1: And he would escape his situation and come over and
Speaker 1: just to hang with us and talk to my mom,
Speaker 1: and my mom would feed him and my mom would
Speaker 1: talk to him. And yeah, you mentioned him, so this
Speaker 1: is you know, this is a very common thing. You know.
Speaker 1: He was he was trapped in a house that didn't
Speaker 1: understand him, didn't want to understand him, didn't want to
Speaker 1: pay attention, and abused him. So he would come over
Speaker 1: and hang with us. You know, Yeah, Laurel is a
Speaker 1: good figure out, figure out life. You know and figure
Speaker 1: it all out. Lorela is good to Lane. She is
Speaker 1: a second mom to Lane, and she, you know, let's
Speaker 1: her band practice in the garage. But when push comes
Speaker 1: to shove, she does the right mom thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. She'll let Lane kind of push the
Speaker 1: envelope a little bit, but then that she really holds
Speaker 1: the mom line. And believe it or not, my Lane
Speaker 1: in my life is it also a drummer, No, no way,
Speaker 1: and a great drummer, by the way, like a fantastic drummer.
Speaker 1: The one thing that for me was so the scene
Speaker 1: when she goes to Luke Mrs Kim does that's right
Speaker 1: before she finds all the stuff in the house, right
Speaker 1: in her room. I thought it was interesting that saw
Speaker 1: you saw Mrs Kim be like, I can't believe she
Speaker 1: called Lorla. She called Luke to make sure that she's
Speaker 1: not coming to work, but she didn't call Mrs Kim.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm shocked that Mrs Kim still kicked
Speaker 1: her out, because I agree. I thought she was going
Speaker 1: to come around, I agree, or at least like be
Speaker 1: more strict or be like we need to talk, but
Speaker 1: like to just see her go to two other people
Speaker 1: in the town and then still move forward because it
Speaker 1: hurt her feeling. You can't. She has to kick her out,
Speaker 1: so the narrative continues. So the storyline, right, that's such
Speaker 1: a good point. Again, another another master stroke by the
Speaker 1: writing staff. Anyway, I also I also think, like Mrs
Speaker 1: Kim is, like, what what more can I do? She's
Speaker 1: still going to do this stuff. I can keep her
Speaker 1: at home and be as strict as I am being now,
Speaker 1: She's still going to find a way to do what
Speaker 1: she wants to do. So she's gotta gotta leave the nest.
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim is in stars Hallow for a reason because
Speaker 1: it's a knife, small, safe town. She doesn't want her
Speaker 1: daughter going to New York City to CBS. I did that.
Speaker 1: I went to New York to CBGBs when I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, you know, and it's and that was okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom was okay with that because she
Speaker 1: knew I was with my sister and her boyfriend and
Speaker 1: it was okay. Um. So um anyway, um, that's why
Speaker 1: she's there, and that's why Laurel is there. It's a
Speaker 1: safe place away from the dangers of the world. And
Speaker 1: it's scary when you know, obviously she's scared that Lane
Speaker 1: is gonna get in some trouble or get injured or
Speaker 1: hurt or whatever. So she's totally justified. Everybody's justified. Everybody's justified.
Speaker 1: So let's get look, let's start rating this. What about
Speaker 1: your favorite lines? Favorite lines? God, were there any you're
Speaker 1: a rude guest, not her boyfriend? And then he goes husband, Danielle,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite line? Yeah? Sorry if you
Speaker 1: hear my gardener, but um, it's it's usually pick a
Speaker 1: really funny line, and this one is Mrs Kim's. You know,
Speaker 1: children do not make the rules. It's just the reason
Speaker 1: being is because it just hit home for me, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and I thought was a very pivotal part
Speaker 1: of this episode. I actually agree with Danielle. I think
Speaker 1: that line just really summed up the episode. And I
Speaker 1: have a double today. No, I haven't even spoken yet.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me with this? You always do this,
Speaker 1: You always want to double triple. Come on, well, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: to your credit, at least you know the funny lines. Well,
Speaker 1: I have one touching lines? Can you first? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna step aside here I'm gonna let You're
Speaker 1: gonna give you the floor and you stay as many
Speaker 1: funny lines as you want. And this is just a
Speaker 1: touching line because I care. I don't want you to move.
Speaker 1: Why Reverend enters, Okay, that's great. You gotta have more,
Speaker 1: keep going. No, I'm done now, I'm okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, welcome. Um. You know I have to agree
Speaker 1: with Danielle and Tara about that very pivotal scene, very
Speaker 1: pivotal moment. Yeah. Um, and they're all of my favorite
Speaker 1: lines were in that scene. Um, so let's give it.
Speaker 1: What are we going to rate this out? What are
Speaker 1: we going to church? Church bells? Let's give it church bells,
Speaker 1: church or um or winter coats. I was trying to
Speaker 1: remember his name, Hank, Hank Kurtsman. Though caskets, we could
Speaker 1: give it caskets. That seems is that as morbid as
Speaker 1: the opening scene? Think? What about how many Hank, let's
Speaker 1: do church let's do church bells. Just do church bells, Tara,
Speaker 1: how many church bells are you giving us? I'm going
Speaker 1: to give it a seven seven, Danielle. I was going
Speaker 1: to say seven seven, I was gonna say nine, but
Speaker 1: I and then I felt like I was getting peer
Speaker 1: pressured to say eight and a half, but no, I'm
Speaker 1: saying nine. Okay, I'm gonna blow some minds here. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it nine and a half. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'll tell you what. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why because I just did what this show does. Okay,
Speaker 1: So maybe, um, the parts themselves and Terry Tara, you
Speaker 1: pointed this out beautifully. The parts themselves may be imperfect
Speaker 1: at times in the show, but the sum total of
Speaker 1: the parts are what you get in summation, is far
Speaker 1: greater than the parts themselves. And that's what happened with
Speaker 1: the show. That's why I give it a nine point
Speaker 1: five because it executed beautifully on the storyline and and
Speaker 1: and echoed out it it. It heralded out, trumpeted out
Speaker 1: a universal theme that is crucial to the lives of
Speaker 1: so many people on the planet and dealt with it
Speaker 1: in a very very powerful way and in a very
Speaker 1: healing way. Um. And I just think that is the
Speaker 1: power of the show. Kudos to the writers. Um. Very
Speaker 1: difficult to write twenty two episodes on a schedule in
Speaker 1: a room with other people. It's really hard to do.
Speaker 1: So to to be that impactful at the end of
Speaker 1: an episode, of the last part of the last third
Speaker 1: of an episode is just for me. That's the win.
Speaker 1: I mean, there you go, nine and a half church
Speaker 1: bells from me, and that's I like it. So um
Speaker 1: it turned out in the end to be actually one
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes because it's one I'm gonna remember.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember this moment with with Lane and her mother.
Speaker 1: I'm going to remember. I'm gonna remember those those moments
Speaker 1: with Lane and Rory about I so jealous of you
Speaker 1: and I look up to you and I hate being
Speaker 1: right all the time so hard. You know it must be.
Speaker 1: And also, Toult, none of us know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, nobody. It's just inspiring. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much to follow up on a serious note of
Speaker 1: what you were saying. Not only are the writers doing
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes, this is season four, so they've been
Speaker 1: cranking these episodes out amazing since the very beginning. So
Speaker 1: that um, all right, everybody, thanks for downloading. Best fans
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