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Speaker 1: I am all in. I Am all in with Scott

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Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart radio podcast. Okay Scott Patterson, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I Am all in podcast. How was Germany? Germany was

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Speaker 1: their shoon? Oh what does that mean? Very pretty? It

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Speaker 1: was very good. German fans are just fantastic. There's so

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Speaker 1: many of them. Oh, they love Gilmore girls. It's huge

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Speaker 1: in that country because so random. Who does your voice?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but it doesn't probably

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like mine at all. No, that'd be

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Speaker 1: so cool to like, we should do that eventually, like

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Speaker 1: to talk to the people that do the voices of you.

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Speaker 1: That would be fun. That's a great idea. Actually, that's

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Speaker 1: a great idea. So they dubbed it. It's not like subtitles.

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Speaker 1: It's dubbed. Yeah, it might be not you know, it's dubbed,

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Speaker 1: but everybody could get. But the thing is everybody over

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Speaker 1: over Scandinavia too. They learn it from the time. My

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Speaker 1: and thank you Dortmund and German Comic Con. It was

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Speaker 1: fantastic time. Danielle cat out your tongue. I was about

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Speaker 1: to say, my uncle lives in Germany. I no one cares.

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Speaker 1: No one cares, they care, I care, I care. Where

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Speaker 1: in Germany does your uncle live. He lives in Munich,

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Speaker 1: a beautiful city. What city were you in? You said

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Speaker 1: that like four seconds? Germany and they have their their

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Speaker 1: city market, Christmas tree, Christmas lights presentation is the finest

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Speaker 1: in the world. They have largest Christmas tree on the

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Speaker 1: planet in dortmun in the city center. It's are you

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Speaker 1: sure it's the largest. It's at least a hundred and

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Speaker 1: it's it's massive. It's it's so big that you just

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Speaker 1: kidding me? Did an alien civilization come, you know, bring

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Speaker 1: somehow secure it? I mean, it's it's unbelievable. O, my god,

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Speaker 1: Nolan does Christmas like the German like the Christmas markets,

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Speaker 1: the decorations, like people in the U. S. Think, Like

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Speaker 1: not been to Germany. I mean it is. I mean

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Speaker 1: New York is a spectacle is great, but Germany. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have you been to Germany? Daniel? Yeah, I said he'd

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Speaker 1: road there when I went to Yeah, and I've been

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Speaker 1: back a couple of times just to visit. Got in

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Speaker 1: surprising turns step of the way today onto something important

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Speaker 1: our event. We have lots of questions about the event

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Speaker 1: two you mean the Warner Brothers event live podcast December

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Speaker 1: and that we will be live stream, will not livestream,

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Speaker 1: but will be streaming in Yes, thank you to the

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Speaker 1: Clarity dot cos backslash what I am all in, I

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Speaker 1: am all in, so Scott you rock. Because we want

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Speaker 1: to make sure everyone understands twenty two is on the

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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers lot if you're in l A. Fenty three,

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Speaker 1: want to watch it lives live stream ish. We'll call

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Speaker 1: it live stream ish because it is. It's it's the

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Speaker 1: stream of the live podcast and you'll see it all

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Speaker 1: mistakes and all editing. The film crew is gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him around to all the uh Luke Steiner,

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Speaker 1: Mrs Kim's uh Laurea Lize house. We're gonna jump up

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Speaker 1: live podcast Q and A with the audience. People are

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Speaker 1: times the Scott did you know that when they do

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Speaker 1: Tex to be the actor that got cast as that.

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00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got cast as the the guy that's

424
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: about to die. I'm like, no, that's so sad. Anyway, continue,

425
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: all right, Amy's industry extreme distress. Right now, He's not

426
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: even looking at us. He's going to a different table. Okay,

427
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: so then we got a band practice, which was kind

428
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: of hilarious for me with I just think sebat Sebastian

429
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Bach is awesome, and they're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

430
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: but put on a jacket before you run out into

431
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: the snow storm. Oh yeah, that's true. They he was dressed.

432
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: He was wearing a von Dutt shirt with the with

433
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: the with the with the with it opened at the top,

434
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, yeah, it's like degrees. He

435
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: walked away and like two seconds, laters like guess what

436
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: we got a gig? Is if? It was like okay,

437
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: like that was, Oh my god, you're pretty good. You're

438
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: pretty good, Gil And I thought the reindeer sweater was cute,

439
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: the leopard shirt Lane had on, the Von Dutch shirt

440
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: Sebastian had on, and that but he brings sandwiches. I

441
00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: love that reference. And yeah he brings but Andy way,

442
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: so you guys are still not hooked in on it.

443
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: We're still we're still in the launchpad. We're still waiting

444
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: to lift off. I did like the how how it

445
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: was winter in the snow, and I did enjoy the winter. Yes,

446
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: did you like lorealize amazing coat with the fur collar.

447
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: When when did we see this? Right as we go

448
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: after band practice to them walking intown the fourth snow

449
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, great debate. That's my takeaway from

450
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: the episode is that coat I cling to that I

451
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: cling I was clinging to that coat until we got

452
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: to the langue. You mock, but I was ready to

453
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: hit eBay again, try and find that thing. Maybe just

454
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: a by the time we're done with this show a

455
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: bomb of stuff that she ordered. I would wear that coat.

456
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I would totally wear that coat. And I tried to

457
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: get the dog sweater I got like a fake version

458
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: of it. It's just let's let's do a shout out

459
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: to Brenda Maybon for killing it on the world. She's

460
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: killing it on the world totally, totally. All the bells

461
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: are ringing. The bells are a chiman the bells. It's

462
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: a lot of bells in a small town. But yeah,

463
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're gonna do ten at ten and

464
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: eleven and eleven and twice a day, it can't get

465
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: a little much at It was beautiful the first time

466
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: when I got the pause. Yeah, and guys, we go

467
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: to lanes and we see rate Rommi Malick. The second

468
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: he showed up on screen. I was like, oh my god,

469
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: he's such a baby. He's so cute, so cute. And

470
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: then they're sitting around and wanting to get Pastor Chow

471
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: or assistant Pastor Eric and yeahda the YadA, and then

472
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: Rory walks in with the book, which is really a

473
00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: whole transport. Yeah. So obviously this scene is just sort

474
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: of building up a little bit too. The blow us

475
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: still on the launchpad. I'll admit that was the launch pad,

476
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: but you had to have that to launch. But now

477
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: we're like four or five scenes into the episode and

478
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: we're still like team minus, you know, we're waiting for

479
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: a little take off here a little bit, a little bit.

480
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Then we get another important scene, which is we're in

481
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: the dorm. First of all, I don't know any dorms

482
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: that are that beautiful that have a fireplace. I know,

483
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: I still have like a bone to pick with the

484
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: fireplaces in all these dorm rooms. I'm just like, first

485
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: of all, that's like a hazard. There's no chance, like all,

486
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: what dorms of a roaring fire? Correct? Why would you

487
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: trust drunken college students with a fire? I don't know.

488
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that you I don't know any dorms

489
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: that have fireplaces. I was trying to remember if our

490
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: sorority had a fire is, and I doubt it. First

491
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: of all, who knows how to light of flat fire

492
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: when they're that age? I don't know how now right

493
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: there with you, I have one in my house and

494
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: you're just I'm like, I'm like, dad, ken, Oh my god.

495
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: If it's not a dirt flame, it's not getting lit.

496
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: I've lived in the house I'm in right now for

497
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: twenty years and it has a fireplace, and I have

498
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: no idea how to turn it on. That's turn it on,

499
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: it's gas. Yeah, I think it needs like the log

500
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: and like you have to have a match. I don't

501
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: know how to do any of the babies are here

502
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: like rubbing. I can do the fireplaces that are like

503
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: a button in my old house. In my old house,

504
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: I had a massive fireplace. The house was built and

505
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: it had a gas line where you would turn on

506
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: the gas line underneath the kindling. You didn't really even

507
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: need kindling. You just need to put the logs in

508
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: and light it up. But I like to build a

509
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: traditional fire with the newspaper and then the kindling wood

510
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: and then the law and you have to have a match. No,

511
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: you just needed to turn on that. It was like

512
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: it was like a metal pipe that had holes in it.

513
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: You didn't have to light it. You lit that because

514
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: the gas would come out of that and it would

515
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: like that, it would light the log. Yeah. Yeah, you

516
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: need to match the right. To me, that's so scary.

517
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: The match and then that's that's all it is. It's

518
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: not a big deal. I mean, you're not putting your

519
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: face near it. You're just like lightening it. You'd have

520
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: to have those long matches and we would have these

521
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: these glorious massive fires, uh in the fireplace, and they're great.

522
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: They were just great. I don't think you can really

523
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: do it anymore anywhere. I mean we just you know,

524
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: we did Thanksgiving in Colorado at our place and and uh,

525
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: you know we have a wood burning Yeah I have

526
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: one here. But although we do have a spare the

527
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: air days where you can't light the fire, you're supposed

528
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: to protect anyway, fireplace one oh one will continue bare

529
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: the air. That's a very catchy title. Through the air there, Yeah,

530
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: y all live in California. Through the air we have that.

531
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Gosh, okay. So the other bone

532
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: to pick I had with the I'm gonna go light

533
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: a fire in my gas fireplace. Did you see the

534
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: dude fully laying the like background actor fully laying on

535
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: the bench in the door like a hard bench reading

536
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: his book. Eagle eyes that watching the episode along with

537
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: us because it was still on the launchpad. I'm sorry,

538
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: I disagree. Once we get to Yale, things start picking up.

539
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: So Paris and Rory are together, and then how funny

540
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: every time she says a certain fella to told me

541
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: about it and really just wants to pew. Yeah. And

542
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: I think this is where we learn about laundry room

543
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: guy when those two girls are telling the story, and

544
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was about free I did too, from

545
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: that one time when she totally okay. So then now

546
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: we're back at the diner and this is this is

547
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: where it launches. So the bells are a chiman yes,

548
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: which is just so epic. I love it. Also, Kurt

549
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: Kurt has you don't want you know what, here's my

550
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: opinion on why she got sofa tust because she loves you.

551
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: I think it's more than or it might be less

552
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: than that. I think it's more about laurelized need to

553
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: have this kind of stability in her life, whether it's

554
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: a committed relationship or not. She wants to know that

555
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Luke is there, being Luke and living upstairs. That's what

556
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: she comforts her. It's part of what comforts her, right,

557
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: And such a shocking change. I'm with a woman in

558
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Litchfield now and I got an apartment. That's shocking, and

559
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: that that that scrambles her eggs and well, that's a

560
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: bad Actually that's a good thing. That's a good thing,

561
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, that that's that's that's shocking for a person

562
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: or anybody in a small town who needs that kind

563
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: of stability, And it's like especially for her. And if

564
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: you mix in the element of her personal feelings, yeah,

565
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: she's gonna get she's gonna get angry a little bit.

566
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: But I think but I think he represents more than

567
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: that to the show and to her then just hey,

568
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: I want to maybe date him. I'm starting to have

569
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: feelings for this guy, you know. I think it's more

570
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: about just just characters being in their place, you know,

571
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: staying put. You know. So I'm gonna agree with you.

572
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: I think of what you're saying. I think You're correct

573
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: for what is fifty percent of lorrel to me, the

574
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: other half of lot Lie is because she loves Luke.

575
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: She just is totally aware of it, right, I agree

576
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, And that was and she was confused

577
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: by her own feelings. She didn't understand how powerful they

578
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: would be. Because it's the same flipping her lid that

579
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: she's done a couple of times when she feels like

580
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: she's losing you. That's what I think. And nobody likes

581
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: to have the rug pulled out from under them that

582
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: way and get this new piece of information that is

583
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't consulted on or told about, and

584
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, all of those feelings of inadequacy come flooding in. Well,

585
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: am I not your friend? And why didn't you tell me?

586
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean everybody goes through that, So did you find it?

587
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: Danielle Tara shocking? The way she reacted or made sense

588
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: made sense to me, just face off of like how

589
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: she freaked out with the other stuff with Nicole, you know,

590
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: like I was. You know, I think also like this

591
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: is uh psychiatrist Danielle coming out. I think a part

592
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: of it is also like she likes to have control

593
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: over Luke, like she likes to know that he's in

594
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: her corner at all times and that she can always

595
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: count on him and he's always available to her and

596
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: all those type of things. And I feel like when

597
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: that starts to spiral out of control, she gets really

598
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: worked up. Um. I don't know if at this point

599
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: she necessarily realizes that she, you know, loves him, but

600
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: it's more of like like, I don't think she acknowledged

601
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: like I love this guy, can't let him go. I

602
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: think she's like, who's going to take care of these

603
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: things for me? Now that another girl is in the picture. Yeah,

604
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I think her heart is ahead of her head. So

605
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: like she finds out like, oh, he moved to another county,

606
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: and her heart is immediately like in pain, but she

607
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: just might not be aware of why that changes the

608
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: whole dynamic of her life in regards to her relationship

609
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: with Luke, because now there can no longer be Luke

610
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: come over, I need this, or Luke come over this,

611
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: or Luke come over I'm scared and Luke come over,

612
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, I need this. I need to talk about something,

613
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: and Rory whatever, there's no longer the friend that's in

614
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: town that she can rely on that. But think about it.

615
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Think about this. Think about you've got a friend, right

616
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: and it's purely platonic, and they're like going to move

617
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: to another couple of cities over you don't give him,

618
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: you don't care. The crush your love even if you're

619
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: not like totally aware, tells you they're moving and all

620
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have the sinking pit. That's because

621
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: you love them, right. But I also don't think that

622
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: her delivery is just not great. Like for me, I

623
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: was just like Laura, I like, take a minute. I'm

624
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: just like Laura. I take a minute and then think

625
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: about what you want to say and then say it.

626
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: But all right, but she's not that way. She's never

627
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: know I know, which, which again that's why I like

628
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: what I don't think. But back to my point, I

629
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: don't think Lorela thinks she likes him like. I don't

630
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: think she's like it's moving to a different city is broken.

631
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't think. I think she doesn't realize

632
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: she likes Luke until she's about to lose him. Every time.

633
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think she walks down the

634
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: street thinking about Luke. You just you just said every

635
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: time I think about him, because she's always with him.

636
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: You just said every before she loses him every time.

637
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Exactly How did you not know after the first time

638
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: when Luke told you that he was getting married, that

639
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: you like this guy, like this is already like three

640
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: times down the road. Likely he told her he was married,

641
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: she wanted to die. Okay, but you get what I'm

642
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: saying at a certain point, like yeah, you know whether

643
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: you have feelings or not when you talk about a

644
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: slow burn. Wow, this is masterful. This is masterful. Actually,

645
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: how happy is she relationship that's so exactly so much?

646
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: She's so happy each time she realizes, for example, he

647
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: tells her he's married, she wants to die, She's losing

648
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: her mind. She looks like she's going to cry, and

649
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: then almost immediately he says, but I'm divorced or I'm

650
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: getting divorced, and she's like, oh my god. Same thing

651
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: with this. She wants to cry and her heartbreaks when

652
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: he says he moved, and then when she goes to

653
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: the apartment and realized he didn't move, she's so happy immediately.

654
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: So it's like she just I don't I don't know.

655
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: She loves him. She just doesn't totally know it. Yeah, okay, exactly.

656
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: I think we're all kind of the same saying the

657
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: same thing. I don't think she actually knows that she

658
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: loves Luke. I think right now what she's concerned about

659
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: is losing him out of convenience for her. Here's the question, though,

660
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: do you think Aim and Tara and Danielle do you

661
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: think that Luke thinks or knows realizes at this point

662
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: that he can no longer make the move that Laureli

663
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: is the one who wants to make the move, and

664
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: Laureli is waiting for what? In other words, what is

665
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: waiting Laureli waiting for what set of circumstances have to

666
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: come to the fore for her to make her move?

667
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Because we now know that Laureli needs to be in control.

668
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: She's a little bit out of control. She freaks a

669
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: little bit, right, that's her world, and she wants to

670
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: make the move. She wants all of her her her

671
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say puppets, but she needs all the

672
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: players in her play to be in their place for

673
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: her to be happy, and and and and Luke. That

674
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: was very well said. So what is what is it

675
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna take for her to make her move on Luke

676
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: when she's good and ready. Right, when is she going

677
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: to be ready? Laurie's Rory's away now, right, she's an

678
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: empty nest or this would be the perfect time. So

679
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: it seems to be you know, uh, this storyline with

680
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Nicole seems to be impacting her a Laura line a

681
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: very big way because maybe now she's preparing to make

682
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: her move and to sort of do it in her way,

683
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: in her time, right, Because certainly, um, I don't know.

684
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: Would you say that Luke has tried to make his

685
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: move and has been rebuffed many many times. I think

686
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: he has tried to make his pre move and he's

687
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: been it's been weird, right, I don't think there's ever

688
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: been the grand move. I think I think by being

689
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: always willing to help her, like he's showing that he cares,

690
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: like you know, that's his way of making his move, like, yeah,

691
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: you need me to come over and fix the toaster,

692
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: of course will be let's skip ahead, so we'll go

693
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: out of order. Why does he come after their blow up?

694
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: Why does he come over and start clearing the path?

695
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: Because that's what he does. He's old, reliable, he's a guy,

696
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't let these sort of you know, temporary conflicts

697
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: affect who he is. And he wants her to be

698
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: safe and get the car out of the driveway, and

699
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: he cares, you know, he doesn't want to know. Luke

700
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: knows how much he cares about Lorila. He knows, he

701
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: knows in his heart he and you can see that,

702
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: like he cares about her so much that if she

703
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: was just like I love you, he would be jumping

704
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: right in, like he he knows, I would be jumping

705
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: in with both feet if he got to go right.

706
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: It's just he doesn't know how to. He just he's

707
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: very awkward getting there right. But I think he goes

708
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: over there. Okay, so like you've never gotten a fight

709
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: with somebody and then you like like your boyfriend or

710
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: husband or wife or whatever, and then you call them

711
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: right immediately, you know, like you make up some reason,

712
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: like I know we're mad at each other, but the

713
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: car is making a funny noise for dinner. It's like

714
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: he went he has this blow up and it's like

715
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: upsetting to him. He figures out, Okay, even if we're

716
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: still fighting, I need to connect with her. So he

717
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: goes over to clear the snow and then they get

718
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: into a bigger fight. But he that was like him,

719
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: like that was so typical couples, you know what, you

720
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: know what that was for those two And I'm gonna

721
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and cover your ears if you're

722
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: faint a heart. That was their sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

723
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: They do it with their clothes on, yelling at each other.

724
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: It's their passion. That's their passion. It's all bottled up

725
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: and not expressed, and it's all fustnection. They're connecting. So

726
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: even when they're not getting along, it's like Rory calls

727
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: it out. She goes, this is what you guys do.

728
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: You fight, you make up, You're fine because it's they're

729
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: always connected. Yeah, you gotta read between the lines. You know.

730
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: You don't get to tell me what to do. I

731
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: do what I want to do. I don't know you anything.

732
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Which And she went out with love and her heart,

733
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: putting her sweet coat on, and she wanted to be

734
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: like wakes over and then he doubled down. Then let's

735
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: just play this part through. We'll go a little out

736
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: of order. There's no apology, there's no even acknowledging it.

737
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: She just shows up and it's like they just he

738
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: she walks in, and by walking in, she's forgiven because

739
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: he's basically like Caesar, oh you're forgiven, and she's like,

740
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: let's go get those bills. And then they're like, but

741
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: that was the perfect excuse not to even acknowledge what

742
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: had happened before. Well, it's more sex now. It's exactly

743
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because now it's yes, because now they're

744
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: connecting again. You don't they're so intertwined, don't even have

745
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: to acknowledge the fight. There's no any of that. It's

746
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: just like, oh, here I am again. We're just always

747
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: going to be together, right. They they get they get

748
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: to regress into sort of high school antics and sabotage

749
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: the church bells, and then we were about to have

750
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: the moment. That was the moment, except for the reverend

751
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: interrupted that that was the moment, right. It's it's masterful,

752
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: It's it's such a roller coaster ride with these two.

753
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: It's just absolutely masters If the reverend didn't come in,

754
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: was that the kiss? They're making their own church bells,

755
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: making their own gun bells, let me tell you. Okay,

756
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: so here's my question for you both. Tara and Scott

757
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: was Laurel right or even justified to being so upset

758
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: about him and the move to literally a little bit.

759
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it was a cinem o

760
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: mission on Luke's part. I mean, he wasn't he wasn't

761
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: honoring the friendship or their can action at all. He

762
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: was just sort of that was an indication that he

763
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: was disconnecting from her, when maybe it wasn't his intent,

764
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: but that's how she perceived it, that he was really

765
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: unplugging from her, and that scared the heck out. I

766
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: just I don't blame her. I don't blame her at all.

767
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was weird that, like it's not like, hey,

768
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to move next week. It's like, oh yeah,

769
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I've I've been gone, like I don't live here anything like.

770
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: I think that's the part where I was like, why

771
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: why didn't you try? That's almost like an f you,

772
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's almost like you know, a dish served cold.

773
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, I already did it, and you don't mean

774
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: but he didn't even do anything. He moved and he

775
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: didn't tell her, and he didn't he didn't bother. But

776
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: how happy is she when she realizes he didn't move

777
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: at all. He didn't move. Why did he even say

778
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: he moved because he didn't move, Um, she moved or something.

779
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but he but he

780
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: was coming back once in a while. I mean, he

781
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: didn't move. He didn't take any clothes. He lives at

782
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: his apartment. He never sleeps there. He did not. She's

783
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: like she basically was like, you're a bad house guest

784
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: because he like just goes over there and like uses

785
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: her pots and pants and eats her food and leaves

786
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: and that's well. I think he's got a pad in

787
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Litchfield with her, and then he's got his own pat right.

788
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so he didn't know. He doesn't even live

789
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: there because he doesn't want to live there. If you

790
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: why is he telling her that he did that? Then

791
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: not a liar. He's not deceptive. He's no. I don't.

792
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: That's a great question because I guess maybe technically he

793
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: had a conversation with her, with Nicole saying let's live together,

794
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, let's try that. But it was

795
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: bull Think you think he's just messing with her to

796
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: gauge No, I think he I think he's knows that

797
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: right now, he can't have rely right, whether this is

798
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: conscious or sub conscious, and he's married to Nicole and

799
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: they've agreed to like try, right, he doesn't want to

800
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: actually try. He's fake trying. He's like, yeah, okay, we

801
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: live together, so he's like single orly we lived together,

802
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: but like, if you love someone, wouldn't you sleep there?

803
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I just look, Luke feels like he's a little bit

804
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: of out of his league with Laura Line. He does.

805
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: He wants her badly, he's in love with her. He

806
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: sees the guys she dates. He just maybe he just

807
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: feels a little bit inadequate in that way, not as

808
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: a man, but as you know, somebody that is not

809
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: of her social order. I think that just the big

810
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: move hasn't happened yet. He's been to Emily and Richard's house, right,

811
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: he's been there. Didn't he go when when Richard have

812
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: a heart attack or he went to the hospital. But

813
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: but he's been to the house and Emily insulted his truck,

814
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: and he's been to dinner. He's seen that. He's seen Yeah, yeah,

815
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I think he went. Yes, he dressed she called him

816
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: the iceman, remember, Yeah, it was that was at the

817
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: party at Rory's. Remember Emily and Richard come to the party,

818
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: and she met you a few times now because she's

819
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: been to the diner. I'm not sure you've been to

820
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: their house yet. I have been to the house because

821
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: she made a comment about his truck that was insulting.

822
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: She insulted the you know what out of him, the

823
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: familiar to me. He's been there, so I think I

824
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: think there's something. I think there's some hesitation on his

825
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: part because he kind of instinctively knows that it's it's

826
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: doomed a failure based on what she comes from, no

827
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: matter what she's doing in stars, how long she's been there,

828
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: she's just a different animal from than him, you know,

829
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: even though it's I just think he's just right. I

830
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: just think he's sort of going through the motions. Like

831
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: think back, like when you were like I don't know,

832
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: in college, and you kind of dated somebody even though

833
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: you're not the one, but you're like, oh I need

834
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: to date them, or or you're like you have the

835
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: crush on someone else but they're not really giving it

836
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: to you, So you date other people, but you know

837
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: it's not real that college. I had a crush on

838
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: a girl. I never approached her. I never approached Yeah,

839
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: it's just Nicole is just like he doesn't really like her,

840
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: or he'd be living there. He's not even sleeping there. Well, listen, man,

841
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: it's not called the you know, it's not called Luke

842
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: and Nicole. It's called Luke and Laurel Eze. I think

843
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with you. Okay, So let's go

844
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: to the scene with Laurel I and Suki. They're looking

845
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: through design books and Laurel eye upset facus baby I've

846
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life? How fake was that baby?

847
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: That's like a solid rubber baby. That wasn't even good

848
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: acting because my things like, okay, so here's my fake baby. Right,

849
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: if you're going to pick up the baby, you'd be like,

850
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: you'd like they just did this. It was like so fake.

851
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, at least do good fake acting with the

852
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: fake baby. It's it's hard to do. It's hard to

853
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: imagine a rubber baby's a real baby. A real baby.

854
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: You're just you know, it's hard to right, they're not.

855
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: They kind of move with fake rubber babies before. Sorry, okay,

856
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: what I mean you wouldn't treat a real baby that way.

857
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: You wouldn't. Just this is what they're doing. And they

858
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, they're doing exactly, that's how you treat

859
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 1: it in an animate object. You sorry, my fake baby

860
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: hit the microphone. Child Child Bottle Services is going to

861
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: show up and remove that bottle from your home. Oh.

862
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: I did make one other notes, sorry to go back courts.

863
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: I also made a note that he did the walk.

864
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: He shoveled the walk because he felt guilty for not

865
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: telling her about his fake movie. It's just he does

866
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: it every year. He does it every snowstorm. He helps

867
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: her out. Yeah, and he cares, and he cares, Yeah,

868
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: he cares. He's not doing that for anybody else. He

869
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: might be doing it for the old couple down the street,

870
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: but they're probably definitely not doing it right. No, he's

871
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: not doing it for anybody yet. Yeah, he's taking care

872
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: of her man, you know, in his way. I don't know.

873
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: I think he loves her. I'm not that I'm dis that.

874
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about Paris for a minute and

875
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: that scene. First of all, the skinny scarf alive and

876
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: while Paris, But let's talk about that scene in that

877
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: class or that special whatever they were at that special

878
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: thing or that club or whatever. It was Internet and

879
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: Long Rule Rage club. Yeah, laundry guys there, and Rory

880
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: loses her her bleep. I mean, but for her for

881
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: saying something, but also like Rory, you know, I know,

882
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: because she goes off in that that club thinking he's

883
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: the guy. So she's using that sort of like innuendo

884
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: or whatever you'd call it, like using the conversation, but

885
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: really she's talking to the dude, and she was trying

886
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: so hard not to look at him. It was like painful.

887
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: And then the pencil flew. I thought that holds. The

888
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: whole storyline was good. And then when she confronts him,

889
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: we'll skip ahead and it wasn't even her. I actually

890
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: thought they were going to ask each other out again.

891
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: I thought so too, actually, but she just walked away.

892
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: It would have been I think it would have been

893
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: better if she they asked each other out. I love

894
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: this episode, what the hell? But you don't. You can

895
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: continue to love the episode. You don't need us to

896
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: love it too. For you to love it and enjoy

897
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: it and take it through your entire life loving it.

898
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: You can chaerish it you can cherish it at all

899
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: stages of your life like a chairish it like a

900
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: fake baby. Am I to understand that Luke broke the

901
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: bells the first time? Um? That was what? I interesting question?

902
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: That is a really penetrating deep question. Are you are

903
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: you serious? No? But it isn't It isn't interesting question.

904
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: It is who who sabotaged him in the first place.

905
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: I think it was Luke because I he alluded to

906
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: that very subtly, and I thought, oh, yeah, well he knows,

907
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: he certainly knows how to disabled them, so he's put

908
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: a little study into this little research Luke and the

909
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: bell tower. M And then what do we think about

910
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: Lane showing up with her bag? I mean, Scott talked

911
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: about a little. I just have to say, I think

912
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: the reason why this is I thought this was a

913
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: good episode is not like little tidbits. I think it

914
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: was the bigger picture of this episode. Um. I think

915
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: it was such an important episode probably the whole series

916
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: for Lane, Like this really shift that character Lane and

917
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim Um I did. I think we already touched

918
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: on it. But I did think it was good that Laurel.

919
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: I was like, we have to I have to call

920
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim like, this is what any parent would do.

921
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: And on that same note, though, you see that Mrs

922
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: Kim was really affected that Lane went to Laura La

923
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: and to her, and I think that's like a really

924
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, you you see a different side of

925
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim here because she's just super super like emotional

926
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: over this whole thing. But she's still very very strict

927
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: and sticking to her guns, like she's like, I am

928
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: heart broken right now. But you got him about. You know,

929
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: I had a Lane in my life growing up and

930
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: he's still my best buddy. And he was Lane. He

931
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: was the Lane to my room and my mom was Laurela.

932
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: And he would escape his situation and come over and

933
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: just to hang with us and talk to my mom,

934
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: and my mom would feed him and my mom would

935
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: talk to him. And yeah, you mentioned him, so this

936
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: is you know, this is a very common thing. You know.

937
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: He was he was trapped in a house that didn't

938
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: understand him, didn't want to understand him, didn't want to

939
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: pay attention, and abused him. So he would come over

940
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: and hang with us. You know, Yeah, Laurel is a

941
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: good figure out, figure out life. You know and figure

942
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: it all out. Lorela is good to Lane. She is

943
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: a second mom to Lane, and she, you know, let's

944
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: her band practice in the garage. But when push comes

945
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: to shove, she does the right mom thing, you know

946
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. She'll let Lane kind of push the

947
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: envelope a little bit, but then that she really holds

948
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: the mom line. And believe it or not, my Lane

949
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: in my life is it also a drummer, No, no way,

950
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: and a great drummer, by the way, like a fantastic drummer.

951
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: The one thing that for me was so the scene

952
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: when she goes to Luke Mrs Kim does that's right

953
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: before she finds all the stuff in the house, right

954
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: in her room. I thought it was interesting that saw

955
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: you saw Mrs Kim be like, I can't believe she

956
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: called Lorla. She called Luke to make sure that she's

957
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: not coming to work, but she didn't call Mrs Kim.

958
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm shocked that Mrs Kim still kicked

959
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: her out, because I agree. I thought she was going

960
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: to come around, I agree, or at least like be

961
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: more strict or be like we need to talk, but

962
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: like to just see her go to two other people

963
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: in the town and then still move forward because it

964
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: hurt her feeling. You can't. She has to kick her out,

965
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: so the narrative continues. So the storyline, right, that's such

966
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: a good point. Again, another another master stroke by the

967
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: writing staff. Anyway, I also I also think, like Mrs

968
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Kim is, like, what what more can I do? She's

969
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: still going to do this stuff. I can keep her

970
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: at home and be as strict as I am being now,

971
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: She's still going to find a way to do what

972
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: she wants to do. So she's gotta gotta leave the nest.

973
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: Mrs Kim is in stars Hallow for a reason because

974
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: it's a knife, small, safe town. She doesn't want her

975
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: daughter going to New York City to CBS. I did that.

976
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I went to New York to CBGBs when I was fifteen,

977
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, you know, and it's and that was okay.

978
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom was okay with that because she

979
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: knew I was with my sister and her boyfriend and

980
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: it was okay. Um. So um anyway, um, that's why

981
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: she's there, and that's why Laurel is there. It's a

982
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: safe place away from the dangers of the world. And

983
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: it's scary when you know, obviously she's scared that Lane

984
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: is gonna get in some trouble or get injured or

985
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: hurt or whatever. So she's totally justified. Everybody's justified. Everybody's justified.

986
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: So let's get look, let's start rating this. What about

987
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: your favorite lines? Favorite lines? God, were there any you're

988
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: a rude guest, not her boyfriend? And then he goes husband, Danielle,

989
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite line? Yeah? Sorry if you

990
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: hear my gardener, but um, it's it's usually pick a

991
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: really funny line, and this one is Mrs Kim's. You know,

992
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: children do not make the rules. It's just the reason

993
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: being is because it just hit home for me, so,

994
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, and I thought was a very pivotal part

995
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: of this episode. I actually agree with Danielle. I think

996
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: that line just really summed up the episode. And I

997
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: have a double today. No, I haven't even spoken yet.

998
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me with this? You always do this,

999
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: You always want to double triple. Come on, well, you know, hey,

1000
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: to your credit, at least you know the funny lines. Well,

1001
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: I have one touching lines? Can you first? You know

1002
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna step aside here I'm gonna let You're

1003
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna give you the floor and you stay as many

1004
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: funny lines as you want. And this is just a

1005
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: touching line because I care. I don't want you to move.

1006
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: Why Reverend enters, Okay, that's great. You gotta have more,

1007
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: keep going. No, I'm done now, I'm okay, thank you,

1008
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: thank you, welcome. Um. You know I have to agree

1009
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: with Danielle and Tara about that very pivotal scene, very

1010
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: pivotal moment. Yeah. Um, and they're all of my favorite

1011
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: lines were in that scene. Um, so let's give it.

1012
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: What are we going to rate this out? What are

1013
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: we going to church? Church bells? Let's give it church bells,

1014
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: church or um or winter coats. I was trying to

1015
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: remember his name, Hank, Hank Kurtsman. Though caskets, we could

1016
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: give it caskets. That seems is that as morbid as

1017
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: the opening scene? Think? What about how many Hank, let's

1018
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: do church let's do church bells. Just do church bells, Tara,

1019
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: how many church bells are you giving us? I'm going

1020
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: to give it a seven seven, Danielle. I was going

1021
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: to say seven seven, I was gonna say nine, but

1022
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: I and then I felt like I was getting peer

1023
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: pressured to say eight and a half, but no, I'm

1024
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: saying nine. Okay, I'm gonna blow some minds here. Oh god,

1025
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it nine and a half. And

1026
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'll tell you what. I'll tell you

1027
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: why because I just did what this show does. Okay,

1028
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: So maybe, um, the parts themselves and Terry Tara, you

1029
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: pointed this out beautifully. The parts themselves may be imperfect

1030
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: at times in the show, but the sum total of

1031
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: the parts are what you get in summation, is far

1032
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: greater than the parts themselves. And that's what happened with

1033
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: the show. That's why I give it a nine point

1034
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: five because it executed beautifully on the storyline and and

1035
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: and echoed out it it. It heralded out, trumpeted out

1036
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: a universal theme that is crucial to the lives of

1037
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: so many people on the planet and dealt with it

1038
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: in a very very powerful way and in a very

1039
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: healing way. Um. And I just think that is the

1040
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: power of the show. Kudos to the writers. Um. Very

1041
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: difficult to write twenty two episodes on a schedule in

1042
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: a room with other people. It's really hard to do.

1043
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: So to to be that impactful at the end of

1044
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: an episode, of the last part of the last third

1045
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: of an episode is just for me. That's the win.

1046
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there you go, nine and a half church

1047
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: bells from me, and that's I like it. So um

1048
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: it turned out in the end to be actually one

1049
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes because it's one I'm gonna remember.

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