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Speaker 1: And welcome to No Dunks, the Internet's original basketball podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host today, Trey Kirby joining me here in

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Speaker 1: the yard. It's Tass mellis. Yeah, what's going on, Trey. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting so close to the NBA season here, tasty,

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Speaker 1: it's getting pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: If you ask me, I feel like the vibes are better,

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Speaker 2: the vibes are they're cooking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Once we start seeing these guys in their jerseys,

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Speaker 1: their shorts, their facial hair, their haircuts, you know you

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Speaker 1: can't help but get excited. No Skeets today is still

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Speaker 1: doing the Green Card Dance in Canada. We'll hopefully be

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Speaker 1: back soon. And yeah, NBA season right around the corner.

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Speaker 1: You're getting excited.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh gosh, yeah, yeah, JD is working

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Speaker 2: on our studio. I will say, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's just me here recency biased, but I feel like

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Speaker 2: this is the most excited I've been for an NBA

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Speaker 2: media day, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like our media brethren, we're pumping out the hits,

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Speaker 2: we're pumping out the notes of every media day. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I made more notes or chuckled or you know,

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Speaker 2: made a little snarl at more tweets this year than I.

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Speaker 1: Ever have in the past. Excellent, excellent, exciting times. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we should host our own media day once we get

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Speaker 1: back into the new fangled classic factory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, wait, I think that's a that's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: I know there's there's lots of things that we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about today that you're going to create videos

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Speaker 2: about in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because stuff is going on, man, stuff is going on.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people were talking, lots of people were asking questions,

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Speaker 1: so we got a lot of things to talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going to play a little bit of is this news?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby? Is this news? The first little bit of news,

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Speaker 1: This one's news. This one is definitely new. Questioning it all,

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Speaker 1: I say it's a little misleading. The Warriors, according to

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Speaker 1: Shan Saranya, have agreed to deals with Al Horford, d

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Speaker 1: Anthony Melton, and Gary Peyton. The second This is news

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Speaker 1: because the Golden State Warriors didn't do anything this offseason,

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Speaker 1: but it's also kind of not news because these guys

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Speaker 1: haven't actually been signed to the team. All of this

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Speaker 1: has to wait until Jonathan Kaminga resolves his stalemate with

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Speaker 1: the Warriors before they can find out exactly how much

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Speaker 1: they're offering Horford Melton and Gary Peyton. But they're at

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Speaker 1: least saying, yeah, we're gonna be on your team. They're

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Speaker 1: not a media day, they're not practicing because they don't

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Speaker 1: actually have contracts. But they will someday have contracts, is

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Speaker 1: what it seems like. So tasks tell me how this

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Speaker 1: is news or cannot.

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Speaker 2: Listen. This is not new news if that's what news

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Speaker 2: is classified anymore as because these guys were expected, but

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Speaker 2: the fact that it is sort of happening. I had

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Speaker 2: to go to NBA dot com slash transactions to check

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Speaker 2: out are any of these actual deals now it does

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Speaker 2: list as Gary Payton the second coming back under a contract, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or Horford and Dandy Melton have not. I will say

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Speaker 2: it's news because when we go back to the Warriors

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, they needed a better defender at the

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Speaker 2: center spot specifically, and Al Horford is that guy. Any

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Speaker 2: switch needed, he will be there to help out. He

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Speaker 2: will guard absolutely anyone, and the Warriors in the past

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Speaker 2: when they have won in twenty two and then eighteen

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Speaker 2: and seventeen. They did it with a center beside Draymond Green,

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Speaker 2: you're Kevan Lune or JaVale McGee, you're Boga and Al

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Speaker 2: Horford will be there to help out. I know he

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Speaker 2: is frank and old. That being said, this guy right now,

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Speaker 2: drinking his chocolate milk. I think he's taking care of

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Speaker 2: he's gone through the NBA, and he's been fine. And

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Speaker 2: Trace Jackson Davis is a guy who's gotten another year

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Speaker 2: older at twenty five year number three. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: But this helps.

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Speaker 2: I mean they needed defense, They needed to be bigger,

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Speaker 2: But even though they still don't know what their roster

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Speaker 2: who's really old, kid even older?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, super old, thirty nine years old Al Horford. If

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Speaker 1: the Warriors somehow make it to the finals, I think

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Speaker 1: unlikely he'll be forty years old playing in the finals.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta love the fit with Horford and Draymond

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Speaker 1: He'll probably be part of the rotation. But yeah, Horford

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Speaker 1: Al Horford hasn't been a full time starter in a

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Speaker 1: But it's good that they finally got a tall guy

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Speaker 1: because this Warriors team is tiny, like Trace Jackson, save

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Speaker 1: it's the dude's a center. He's six foot nine. The

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Speaker 1: But I think they're going to be a tough out

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Draymond, those guys are locks. So the big question

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. I think they really could all

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Speaker 2: you could see that. You could see Buddy who did

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Speaker 2: for the Warriors as we're naming these guys who are

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Speaker 2: capable NBA players, along with adding Al Horford to the trace,

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Speaker 2: Jackson Davis and quintin post center rotation, they are fricking old,

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Speaker 2: that's no doubt about that. That being said, it is

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Speaker 2: it's an improvement over last year's team. Against Minnesota in

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Speaker 2: just didn't have enough centers out there. So Horford being

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Speaker 2: But yes, they could they could just use another body

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Speaker 2: away from the guys that you said, Jimmy has to sit,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the question will be what the ceiling for this team.

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Speaker 1: FanDuel has the Warriors at plus three thousand odds to

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Speaker 1: win the title. That's the same as the Atlanta Hawks.

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Speaker 1: It's tied for tenth overall, sixth in the West. That

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Speaker 1: seems about right to me, Like, I think the Warriors

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Speaker 1: are probably a top ten team with a pretty good ceiling,

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Speaker 1: just because you like what Steph can do come playoff time,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy has shown that he's able to raise his game

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Speaker 1: seems to be changing around the league as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't mean to be a pessimist, but at

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Speaker 2: And I see some of these faces and I say it,

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that guy is? Who is that? So, yes,

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Speaker 2: you can say that about the Golden State Warriors. They

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Speaker 2: don't have every buddie as far as the championship team

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two that they had, but they do

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Speaker 2: year even because they signed or excuse me, they traded

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Speaker 2: for Jimmy mid season. Bam.

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Speaker 1: They turned it on and they were awesome.

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Speaker 2: And now they actually have a training camp together. You

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Speaker 2: see Draymond and Jimmy Butler working out together. You have

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Speaker 2: what is probably the best center that Steph Curray has

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Speaker 2: ever played with. You know, there was Andrew Bogan, there

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Speaker 2: Al Horford and he's old, so we will see what

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Speaker 2: he can bring now today, fresh office, another bottle of

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Speaker 2: It's a matter of sticking together and maybe maybe a

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Speaker 1: Really it'd be nice to they don't have to go

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Speaker 1: through the play in tournament as well. They've been a

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Speaker 1: It's also feels like the last month and a half

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Speaker 1: of both of this previous season and the season prior

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Speaker 1: has been almost playoff basketball for the Warriors, where they

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Speaker 1: have to win seventy five percent of their games to

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Speaker 1: even squeak into the play in tournament and that's the

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Speaker 1: problem you run into when it's all old guys. One

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Speaker 1: guy that's not in camp, Jonathan Kaminga still hanging over

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Speaker 1: our heads, the Coaminga stalemate. He has until tomorrow to

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Speaker 1: pick up his qualifying offer, which is just a little

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Speaker 1: bit under eight million dollars. They've been reporting about three

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Speaker 2: I think this is good news for Anthony Davis. He

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Speaker 2: He's finally doing it. This guy had three eye injuries

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Speaker 1: You're right, I got like a black guy every four months.

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Speaker 1: They're cool. The coolest guy to ever wear the oleas

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were tinted the Antoine cars, they were cools

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Speaker 2: you never know where he was passing to. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Why wuldn't they start wearing it? It's like it's not allowed.

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Speaker 1: Preseason. You can do anything like Sam Persons wore a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does feel like he will play this season

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Speaker 1: cool they got three number one picks on the same team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's got a great start. Even though you

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Speaker 2: they've got good news top to bottom in that roster.

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Speaker 1: The people are saying that the Timberwolves once had three

431
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Speaker 1: number one overall draft picks. They're saying Kat Wiggins and

432
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Bennett. Is that true? Though? Wasn't Wiggins traded for Bennett?

433
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't that part of the deal with Cleveland. I don't

434
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: remember if that's necessarily true, but Dion mentions Dereck Rose

435
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: did end up on the Timberwolves as well, and he

436
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: was a number one pick, So yeah, maybe that's it.

437
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: And then I think the Lakers right now have two

438
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: and Lebron and DeAndre Ayton. So it happens, but it

439
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: isn't usually when two of the guys are in their

440
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: pseudo primes, you know. I guess, yeah, Tyrie obviously coming

441
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: off an injury, but he's still a good player in

442
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: the NBA. Anthony Davis is all NBA caliber, and Cooper

443
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: is playing as well. Still, we will see what they

444
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: look like when they are up to full strength.

445
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: Must better that Derek Rose one, because I had it

446
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: in the back of my head. I didn't know it

447
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: jumped into in the back of my head that Derek

448
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: Rose has been part of three number ones, although it

449
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: was it was with the Wolves, although he had he

450
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: had a fifty point game with the Minnesota Timberwolves. But

451
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was.

452
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: So they're saying Rose, Cat and Wiggins, so that makes

453
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: sense to me. They were rocking the like the Prince Jerseys.

454
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Speaker 2: I remember that seventeen seventeen eighteen. I guess was Wiggans

455
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: last year. Gosh, I loved clicking around on Basketball Reference.

456
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Speaker 2: Where are you seventeen eighteen roster Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah, they

457
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: must have been Wiggans. He was on the team. Yeah,

458
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: they must have played together.

459
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Speaker 1: Nice, so it's happened before. I don't know if anybody

460
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: else touched didn't the WNB, I think the Aces. At

461
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: one point they had four number one overall draft picks

462
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Speaker 1: on their team. I'm pretty sick they won the title

463
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: that year. Can you believe it? Good stuff? Also in Dallas,

464
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Derek Lively mav Center said he grew two inches over

465
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Speaker 1: the summer. He's now seven foot three. If you buy it, tasks,

466
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Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I started, I started doing my googles.

467
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Speaker 1: Can you grow at twenty one years of age?

468
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Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah?

469
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Sure?

470
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: What happens? February he turned twenty one, So this is,

471
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like twenty one and a half.

472
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: But that's fine. I think you know from from very

473
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Speaker 2: very quick googles that it's about of a fifteen percent

474
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Speaker 2: chance to grow at twenty one. Usually everybody has grown,

475
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: has finished growing. But it's it does happen, and so

476
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Speaker 2: twenty one and a half, Yeah, I'm good with it.

477
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: I checked all the sites in terms of NBA dot

478
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Speaker 2: Com Basketball Reference, are they listing him at any higher

479
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Speaker 2: than seven foot one? They are not. He's still seven

480
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Speaker 2: to one, so it's not official, but I buy it.

481
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Speaker 2: You buy it.

482
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. He was asked have you

483
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Speaker 1: grown any this summer, and his response was I believe

484
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Speaker 1: so I would definitely say I have. I just got

485
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Speaker 1: to get the exact measurement, but I'd say seven to

486
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Speaker 1: two seven three. This is one of the easiest things

487
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Speaker 1: to possibly find out. If you've grown, just stand by

488
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: a wall and people will measure you. It's simple. If

489
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Speaker 1: you've grown, you know you've grown.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they have to measure, aren't they. Actually they're

491
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: actually doing measurements in the NBA now right.

492
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have legit measurements, so we will see.

493
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got I guess they do it at some

494
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: point in training camp, probably not on me D Day,

495
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: at some point in the next few weeks. So he's

496
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: got time to grow even if he wants.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got time to grow. He's still got today.

498
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: But I will be scouring those measurements and that roster

499
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Speaker 1: once the Mavericks actually release it. Hey, if they got

500
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: a seven foot three guy, makes even more sense for

501
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis to play the four and for Derek Lively

502
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: to play the five, and if he is able to

503
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Speaker 1: still move the way he was at seven foot one.

504
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: If he's able to move like he does at seven

505
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: foot three, they're gonna be an awesome defensive team. And

506
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a good defensive team regardless.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fantastic stuff. This is one guy who

508
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: slips under the radar in terms of headlines and whoeveryone

509
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: is talking about with Cooper and Kyrie and ad obviously,

510
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: but he didn't play a lot of last season, so

511
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: we didn't really get to see their entire roster. Like,

512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: there's so many guys on this team with Christy even

513
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: who no one's really talking about as the young guys

514
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: to bring the glue to your D'Angelo Russells and those

515
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: types of vets out there. This team has a very

516
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: very good roster in theory, and when they played last year,

517
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: they look like they could really play. So this West

518
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: is ridiculously tough.

519
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the West is ridiculously tough. Some teams season is

520
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: going to be over by the time we get to December,

521
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: just by getting off to a bad start and having

522
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: to play catch up. So maybe it'll be the MAVs.

523
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Maybe not to tie a bow on things, Ludasan here

524
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: in the stream, team is mentioned. In the nineteen eighties,

525
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers had three number one picks in Kareem, James Worthy,

526
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: and Magic Johnson. That's a decent, you know, threesome. They

527
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: did okay getting those three together. So wouh the track record?

528
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: That's good. If you can get three Hall of Famers

529
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: on the same team, you're gonna have a chance to win.

530
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe ye win the w NBA Finals.

531
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Exactly right, So MAVs buyer stock. Now, maybe it doesn't

532
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: happen this year, but next year. In Philadelphia, the Sixers

533
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: had media day on Friday after we talked about Jared

534
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: McCain's thumb injury and the news out of Sixers camp

535
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: was not great tasks. Neither Joel Embiid nor Paul George

536
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: have timelines to return following their respective knee surgeries. Embiid

537
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: had his left knee done in April. Paul George had

538
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: his left knee done in July. Both of them said

539
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: they're listening to their bodies and that's kind of gonna

540
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: be the guiding principle for how much and when they're

541
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: able to play this season. So talk to me a

542
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: little bit about Philadelphia starting the year off with three

543
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: injuries already.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would call this news. It feels like we're

545
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: going back to last season where Embiid's status it's just conspicuous.

546
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: We don't know what it's going to be. Daryl Moorey

547
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: was conspicuous about it last year. I think we could

548
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: just say, like they kind of did last year, it's

549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: indefinite TBD. I will save that. Paul George went definitely

550
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: more disappointing coming off of last year. There was some

551
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: talks about him turning a new leaf this coming year,

552
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: and then he went and had surgery in July, and

553
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: so that part is definitely discouraging that he hasn't recovered

554
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: from that. And at the same time, and I mentioned July,

555
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: I started thinking about the draft pick and Vja Edgecomb

556
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: and the fact that there may be this season there

557
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: could be guys to compensate for Paul George when he

558
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: sat or Joel Embiid when he sat. But then you

559
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: mentioned that other injury and Jared McCain Quentin Grime still

560
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: isn't sign. I think they're gonna miss kershwan Yabusele because

561
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: he played so many games they got to go to Dubai.

562
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: Now they're in Dubai to have training camp, So I

563
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: mean they got a lot of moving parts. They're not

564
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: getting the camaraderie getting going with Paul George in the

565
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: lineup at the very least, you know Joel EMBIDI can

566
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: kind of expect knowing his knees, but pg's not there,

567
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: so it is. Yeah, it's a poopy start, no doubt

568
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: about that.

569
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think, look, Embiid is obviously

570
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: their best player. I thought it was kind of funny

571
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Speaker 1: what Nick Nurse has said. He's like, yeah, hopefully there's

572
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: actually some management this year because last year he just

573
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: didn't play, so we didn't have to manage anything. He

574
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: just wasn't out there. They need Embiid to do anything

575
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: this season. But missing Paul George maybe is even worse

576
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: for the Sixers because you look at the wing depth

577
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: they have and they basically don't have any wing depth.

578
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: Justin Edwards had some decent moments last season, but other

579
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: than him, it's like Kelly u Bray Junior is going

580
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: to play a major part on the wing for the Sixers.

581
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: They brought in Trendon Watford, who was decent for the

582
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Nets last year, but not really a starting caliber player.

583
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: They don't have any other young guys who can fill

584
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: in on the wing. They do have a bunch of

585
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: these small guards, and signing Grimes would be huge for

586
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: this team. But I mean, Paul George had, you know,

587
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: just an all time Paul George quote at media Day.

588
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: He said, it can't get worse than last year. That

589
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: was a rock bottom kind of season.

590
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: Right.

591
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing people will pull out if

592
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: they had the exact same kind of season this year.

593
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Last year, Joel Embiid played nineteen games, Paul George played

594
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: forty one games. That's a combined sixty games from those

595
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: two guys. Do you think they play more or less

596
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: this year? Six combined games for Paul George and Jowell Embiid.

597
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm going over because I do think there is some

598
00:31:52,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: sort of plan with Joel Embiid playing. But but but

599
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: but who knows that that's that's the unfortunate thing. I

600
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: will say with with the Nick Nurse comment, I feel

601
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: like Embiid once to gear up. I think he's gonna

602
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: pull off more of the Kawhi Leonard twenty four to

603
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: twenty five plan, which is sit for a long time

604
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: and then gear up slowly as the season goes on.

605
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's forty over under. I don't know if

606
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: that's a line on FanDuel, but it should be excuse me,

607
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: sixty over under. You said, uh, that's I'm taking the

608
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: over because yeah, I mean that's.

609
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Such a low number. Like you gotta hope they have

610
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: to get more than nineteen games from Embiid this season

611
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: just I mean thirty games would be playing fifty percent

612
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: more like that would be ridiculous to not get over

613
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: sixty games between those two guys.

614
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: So it is tough. It felt like when they signed

615
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Paul George, it was, ah, okay, here comes the patchwork

616
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: behind Maxi Embiid and Paul George. Here comes You're you

617
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: know you're you're Kyle Lowry or Eric Gordon and the

618
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: old guys. And now the patchwork ain't even there this

619
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: season with McCain out, Quentin Grimes ain't playing, I think

620
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: they will Mitch miss the patchwork of Yabusele. So that's

621
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: the scary part. Even even though as you said, there's

622
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: there's hole, there's guys to fill. And Ubrea, I think

623
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: the Watford signing was was a good contract. I was

624
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: a nice contract, Daryl Morey, But I'm not sure even

625
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: beyond the starters, the great players that the patchwork is enough.

626
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: It is the Eastern Conference, but still that's the that's

627
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: the worrisome part as well, Like, yes, we want Paul

628
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 2: George out there for sure to look like Paul George,

629
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: but even the that secondary supporting cast is not not

630
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: currently ready to go.

631
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not. They got a lot of eight and

632
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: ninth men masquerading as fifth starters right now. So we'll

633
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: see what happens with Grimes. He's on the same qualifying

634
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: offer deadline sort of deal as Jonathan Kaminga, so there

635
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: will be a resolution in the next forty eight hours

636
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: for both of those guys. The Trailblazers also had media

637
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: Day on Friday, and they also had some bad injury news.

638
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Third year guard Scoot Henderson as a torn left hand string.

639
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: He's expected to return to basketball activities in one to

640
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: two months.

641
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Is this news, test, It is news. This is Scoot

642
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 2: trying to grow from year two to year three, because

643
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: he did improve from year one to year two. I

644
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: always hate to see a guy not be able to

645
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: get a start going It is. It is a terrible

646
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: thing for Scoot. Now it's time to be positive. Good

647
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: environment in Portland. I do think with Drew around, Drew

648
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: Holliday will be good, very good for Scoot Henderson. Jeremy

649
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: Grant is going to play basketball this year. He didn't

650
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: seem super excited at media Day. He did not No,

651
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: he felt like he was going to be dealt this

652
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: past offseason. He answered the question with all his heart

653
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: when he was asked basically if he expected to be here. No,

654
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 2: not really, but he is a very good basketball player.

655
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: So I do think looking at the roster, considering Chauncey

656
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: Billips went and got two offensive minded coaches because he

657
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: knows they were really good defensively to end the season.

658
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: They've got a good locker room, but we need better offense.

659
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: I think that that part of the team and how

660
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: they could grow is positive. I'm excited to watch this team.

661
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: Danny Avdya coming off the bench year number two for

662
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: him in Portland. I'm excited to watch him with Young Hanson.

663
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: He was asked about playing with Young Hanson and he said, yeah,

664
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: I like it. I'm watching him play. I know he

665
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: can handle the ball. I love giving goes. I'm excited

666
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: to play with young Hanson. So I do think if

667
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: you start to go through the roster, considering they got

668
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: new coaches to try and take care of that side

669
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: of the ball while Chauncey had the other side of

670
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: the ball, I'm excited. But yes, Scoot would be so

671
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 2: much more beneficial to have a freaking camp. But if

672
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: it is a month, you know he can still get

673
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: better again. The year one to year two jumps in

674
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: efficiency were there.

675
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: They're real.

676
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: He was coming off the bench, and so there's just

677
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: more room I think for a guy in Danny Avdia

678
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: who will be better in year two in Portland having

679
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: a great summer with the Israeli basketball team. So I

680
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: think there's enough to keep them going despite Scoot as

681
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: an individual to be a little pessimistic about.

682
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's good that they have Drew Hollidays

683
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: like that answers the question for their starting lineup at

684
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: the point guard spot. At least Hi'll slot in there

685
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: and be the guy for Portland. He plays defense, He'll

686
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: get the guys the ball where they need. Maybe his

687
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: scoring takes a little bit of the jump after kind

688
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: of being the fifth option for a lot of the

689
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: time I'm in Boston, but this really sucks for Scoot.

690
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Thirty year is supposed to be a breakout year. He

691
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: hasn't had a breakout year yet.

692
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: He was good last.

693
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Season, but this was kind of a prove it year

694
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: to me for Scoot Henderson. Show us that you're going

695
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: to be an important piece of the Blazers going forward,

696
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, twelve to fourteen points per game is

697
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: not what the Blazers were expecting when they drafted Scoot

698
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: number three and moved on from Damian Lillard. This guy

699
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a star for them, and now

700
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: he's going into rehab mode with an injury that can

701
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: linger as a player that really needs to maximize his athleticism.

702
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: So I think this is pretty bad for the Blazers.

703
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: Maybe they can survive it if it's only four weeks,

704
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, he only misses a handfull of games, But

705
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: if it's eight weeks, they could be behind the eight

706
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: ball when it comes to making a run into the playoffs.

707
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: And I have absolutely zero confidence in Jeremy Grant. That

708
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: guy looked completely checked out. You mentioned it. They asked

709
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: him if he thought he'd be back on the Blazers

710
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: this season, he said, I definitely didn't. But then you

711
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: look at his contract and there's no way a team

712
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: is going to take a chance on Jeremy Grant. Thirty

713
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: two million this year, thirty four million next season. Then

714
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: he has a thirty six million dollar player option for

715
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: the twenty six twenty seven season. Jeremy Grant is thirty

716
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: one years old test that hasn't been in the playoffs

717
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: since he played for Denver in twenty twenty, and he

718
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: plays sixty games per season and he expects to start.

719
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: They asked him if he was going to come off

720
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: the bench. He's like, I don't see that happening, which

721
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: means I think Shaden Charp probably goes to the bench

722
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: because Denny Avdia has been their best player to Monty Kamara,

723
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: second team All Defense. He started every game that he

724
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: played last year, so Sharp to me seems like the

725
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: odd man out, and that seems like completely antithetical to

726
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: building for the future to be sending your young guy

727
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: who you need to see what he can do as

728
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: a number one option, to the bench to play behind

729
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, who isn't a good guy to have as

730
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: your leading scorer like, he's not an efficient player. He

731
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: doesn't shoot well from two. He's not a big defender.

732
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: He's just a guy that can sock up sop up

733
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: possessions because nobody else does. So. I think this is

734
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: a kind of a disaster contract. He's got one of

735
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: the worst contracts in the league. Because I don't know

736
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: who's touching that thing.

737
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: I cannot disagree that was a monster when they signed it.

738
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, he signed thinking that he was going

739
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: to be a number one guy, and it hasn't been

740
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: great when he's on the court, and it hasn't been

741
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: great in the locker room in terms of the as

742
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: you said, what path that this team is on, because

743
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: it is even though they went and got Drew Holliday,

744
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: it's devoted to younger players. And as I said, I'm

745
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: excited to watch Denny have the ball, and he's got

746
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: a start a lot of games. I know he's good

747
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: enough and cares about the team enough to come off

748
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: the bench at times, but when you have a monster

749
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 2: contract like Jeremy Grant, I'm sure he expects to start

750
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: as well. So where's the room for this team if

751
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: Denny's playing? Like you said, now with Anthony Simon's gone,

752
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: I guess there's more room. It's probably Shane Sharp though,

753
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: as you said, that seems they need to pick a direction.

754
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: The Blazers are caught in the middle right now. We'll

755
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: see they were nice last season, like it was fun

756
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: to watch the Blazers play defense. That was basically when

757
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant was out and Timani Kamara and Denny Avdya

758
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: really stepped into bigger roles. Klingon is going to be

759
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: better this season, assuming he's able to play more than

760
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: like twenty five minutes. I don't have a lot of

761
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: expectations for young Hansen this year. He's still just a

762
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: rookie coming from a lesser league, so we'll see what

763
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: he's actually able to do. But they're just trying to

764
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: make it back to the play in tournament, and that's

765
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: not really a place you want to be as a

766
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: Bulls fan. I can speak to that.

767
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: I will say I can't wait to talk about our

768
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: Tunis arturists, Carnichiabus and his words. I got some great

769
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: words from him. I will say they are picking a

770
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: younger path, but they just couldn't find anyone that takes

771
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted, yeah, you know, a great

772
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: guy to have in your locker room, but they couldn't

773
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: find anyone to take Jeremy Grant.

774
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: They're not going to find anybody to take Jeremy Grant.

775
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that is a problem. Otherwise they've gotten young

776
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: with you know obvious a lot younger and your your

777
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Scoot and your sharp Tamara.

778
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: The old guy.

779
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: I think Drew is just is strictly there to to

780
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: help guide some of the young players, considering they're not

781
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: paying anyone the max at this point max beyond you know,

782
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: the rookie contract. It's fine to have Drew Holliday's contract around.

783
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: It's the Jeremy grant. Unfortunately that it works with the

784
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: numbers because they're not paying much for basically anybody. Denny's

785
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: on one of the best contracts uh in the NBA,

786
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: so it works financially. But yeah, they're they're I think

787
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: the only old guys really are Drew, Jeremy and Robert

788
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: Williams is still on the on the roster.

789
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: See the way I look at it is the only

790
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: young guys are Scooting Sharp because like Omdiez in his prime,

791
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: the dude's twenty five years old, he's not young anymore.

792
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: He's right in the middle of his prime. You know,

793
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: Kamara was an older rookie as well. So I don't know.

794
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: This is just an odd team to me, and I

795
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: don't think it proved me wrong. We'll see.

796
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, Kligan's still young and and young

797
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Hanson let's call him young Hanson. He ain't old, he's.

798
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: Young, that's true. He's twenty years old.

799
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: They're they're looking for guys. I mean they are sort

800
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: of picking, you know, letting Deandraton go. It will be

801
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: a fun a fun roster. I think that the Jeremy

802
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: Grant issue is more locker room Jeremy Grant, like you said,

803
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: he obviously did not feel extremely happy sitting there at

804
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: the table. So, you know, beyond on the floor play,

805
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: which Drew Holliday should help with, he should help this

806
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: team be excited to take the floor together. What is

807
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant going to be in these situations? I don't

808
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: know if he can adapt to being more of a

809
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: role player. Really. I mean, I'd rather see Danny Avdya

810
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: handle the ball so many more times on this team

811
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: than Jeremy Grant. So TBD.

812
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: Here, Well, since you mentioned four play, let's talk about

813
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: something sexy or did you say floor play?

814
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: I think I said floor Oh.

815
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: Well, anyways, here's something The Toronto Raptors were asked about

816
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: the excitement in Toronto over the Blue Jays get into

817
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: playoffs in Major League Baseball. RJ. Barrett responded, in a

818
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: couple months from now, it's gonna be us this news tasks,

819
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: are Barrett making a playoff guarantee?

820
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, baby, this is incredible news for Toronto as

821
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: a city. But let's just zoom out.

822
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Let's just zoom out for a sec.

823
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: I think if you watched NBA ME to day and

824
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: what happened in that Toronto Raptors ME today, you got

825
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: to be super excited. Dark O Rijakovic, their coach, says,

826
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: our projected starting five has been practicing basically an entire

827
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: month together in September for a month, and I think

828
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: that in and of itself is a heck of an accomplishment.

829
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: This is Toronto Raptors basketball, where last year is a manual.

830
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: Quickly ever gonna play. They have just injury issues up

831
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 2: and down the roster. Brandon Ingram sat there. He didn't

832
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: play a minute. So the fact that they're all playing

833
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: together in Ingram and Barrett and Quickly and Barnes and

834
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Yakaperl is exciting stuff. Listen to some of the quotes

835
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: from these guys. Scotty Barnes yesterday said, we got thirteen

836
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: fourteen guys who can step in.

837
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: We have a complete roster.

838
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: What is this, Okay, say East maybe Brandon Ingram, Yeah,

839
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm good, might as well go there.

840
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, you're getting the hyped that they

841
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: practice together. They gotta play a game together.

842
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know that that is an accomplishment. These

843
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: guys put on their shorts and they played together. That

844
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: did not happen last year. So the fact that you

845
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: hear this kind of stuff, Brandon Ingram complimenting a guy

846
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: like RJ. Barrett, man, I didn't know he was that good.

847
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was a gunner, is what he said. Yeah,

848
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: but he was just a gunner. It turns out he

849
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: can just stand off to the side and watch me cook.

850
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess he didn't watch Toronto Raptors or New

851
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: York Knicks basketball at all. I mean, he can set

852
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: guys up, but honestly, as far as the roster goes,

853
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: RJ Barrett seemed almost relieved that there's a brandon Ingram

854
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: out there and a Scotty Barnes and Emmanuel quickly out there,

855
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have to be the only guy to

856
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: set things up like he did last year. So there's

857
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: just so much positivity going on. Brandon Ingram was asked

858
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: about the difference between New Orleans and Toronto and he said, well,

859
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: the most impressive thing to me is that every seat

860
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: in the arena is filled, mine included.

861
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: He said. He said, I was sitting the whole time

862
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: I was there in Toronto just watching the fans.

863
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: Fans of a team that was abysmal last year. So

864
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: that's a great sign. And I will say I know

865
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: it's positivity time because this is the time to get

866
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: extremely excited. And that's where our tourist, carniesievis As I said,

867
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: comes into play. He said, you talk to a lot

868
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: of teams right now and they think they're in that

869
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: they can compete now. As a Bulls fan, that's disappointing

870
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: to hear. But as a Toronto Raptors fan, or is

871
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: any other team in the Eastern Conference. Your Hawks, your Bucks,

872
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: your teams that have some hope, maybe perhaps to be

873
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: one of those top six, you got to be super

874
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: excited and you put it all together. You gotta be excited.

875
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Now when you said for play, I thought you were

876
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: talking specifically about this quote because Brandon Ingram was asked

877
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: about how him, Scottie, Barnes and RJ will work as

878
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: a threesome and he said, you gotta put a pause

879
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: on that. That's an acceptable pause. That nice one.

880
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to say, Trio? I guess a

881
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: big three. Saying threesome is actually pretty funny.

882
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: How will you guys perform out there?

883
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was the Montreal Raptors, they would call

884
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: it a manase TOI I believe. But it is a

885
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: good question. How do those three guys fit together? That's

886
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: a great question Barnes, Ingram and Barrett, which brings me

887
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: to my second question. Well, RJ Barrett even be in

888
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: Toronto at playoff time.

889
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: Only if they're good. They they will be looking to

890
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: see if if if if I if they don't play

891
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: well together. I don't know. It's it's hard. It's hard

892
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: when you look at the Ostern Conference again, if these

893
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: guys play to not see a team that is winning

894
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of games. I think that they could be

895
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 2: easily be a five hundred team if they're all playing together.

896
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: So that I think Bobby Webster, the new head of

897
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: the front office after the great messia Ugerie has gone,

898
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: basically said we're not making any sort of assessments now

899
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: Timm d on everything. So it's a fair question, Tray,

900
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 2: will r J. Barrett be playing basketball beside Scottie Barnes

901
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: and Brandon Ingram? And I know it's a fair question

902
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: who We're talking about three guys that are basically occupied

903
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: the same space out there, but I will. I think

904
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: there will be a lot of cutting, There will be

905
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: lots of wheels being run. I think, you know, Scottie

906
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: Barnes is entirely fine with that. R J. Barrett, as

907
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram said, he's a playmaker. He got way better

908
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: at that. I know it's not as four K and

909
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: Ingram's going to score a lot of points, So I

910
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: think the offense will be totally different this year.

911
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of talent for sure, and I

912
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: was kind of surprised. I think r J. Barrett shot

913
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: like forty on corner threes for Toronto last year, so

914
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: that would definitely help him stick around. But of those three,

915
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: he's definitely the most likely to be traded. You know,

916
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Barnes is the star of the team. They just gave RJ.

917
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: They just gave Ingram the big deal after the trade

918
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: last season, So when you're looking numbers wise, RJ seems

919
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: like most likely to potentially be shipped out. I was

920
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: checking the odds on fan Duel this morning. The Raptors

921
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: are a minus one oh eight to make the playoffs,

922
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: a minus one twenty two to miss the playoffs. But

923
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: they do have the best odds in the Eastern Conference

924
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: to make the play in tournament minus one oh five.

925
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: So fan Duel at the very least is having them

926
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: as playing team. I think that's quite likely they could click.

927
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: They do have a lot of depth on this team,

928
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: even when you get to the backup guys like you know,

929
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: Grady Dick is probably a rotation player. Oh, Chaiabaji is

930
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: a rotation player. Maybe their rookie Colin Murray Boyles is

931
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: able to do something. I was excited to watch Mamu

932
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: in euro Basket. They've got some dudes. So if they

933
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: get like good seasons from all of them and they

934
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: fit better than I think they do. I don't know

935
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: if they're a top six team in the East, but

936
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: they could be a top ten team.

937
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Oh. I think there's no doubt they could be a

938
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: top ten team. I mean, you just went through a

939
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: bunch of players. We're getting deep. We're getting almost thirteen

940
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: fourteen players out there. I think they could fill out

941
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: a roster very well. I think RJ. Barrett and his

942
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: playmaking last year is kind of key to those three

943
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: guys who operate in the same space in Barnes himself

944
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: and Brandon Ingram. This guy at five and a half

945
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: assists per game last year, a huge career high for him.

946
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: He was asked to do that kind of thing on

947
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: a floor where Emmanuel Quickly wasn't even playing now not

948
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: to see.

949
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's Quickly going to be doing that? And

950
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: if Barrett's the playmaker? I also thought Ingram was the

951
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: playmaker and didn't Scotty Barnes lead the team in assists

952
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: last year.

953
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, so you're saying only one man can dripple on

954
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: the guy can have the ball, Well, Bartch doesn't have

955
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: to do it as much anymore. Quickly can't do it

956
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: as much. That's not really his I know he's a

957
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: point guard, but he's not really leading your team and assists. Ever,

958
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: and Scotty Barnes can do it, I think, Yeah, this

959
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: is a team that's it's it's that wheel man. Keep

960
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: that thing going off at the top, just keep cycling

961
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: that ball. So in the Eastern Conference, I think they

962
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: could easily be a play in team. And I always

963
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: see these odds and I say, hold on, what is

964
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: making the playoffs? Even mean? I guess it means you

965
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: have to win a play in game if you get

966
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: in the play or does it mean you're in the

967
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: top six because it make it? I guess is making

968
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs winning a play in game and getting into

969
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: the actual playoffs? Or do you have to be top

970
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: six like when.

971
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: It's all said and done, top eight is playoffs. Yeah, yes,

972
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: it's probably what it is. But I'm a little uncertain

973
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: on that though. I do know obviously, if you make

974
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: seven through ten, you have made the play in tournament.

975
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: And I saw the bulls there odds they were plus

976
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: one ninety to make the play in tournament. Yeah, what

977
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: a what an awesome availability from our trash Carnissivus who

978
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: said we're going to try and win every game this year.

979
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: But also there's no expectations for this team, so they're

980
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: just like the Blazers, They're just like the Kings. It's like,

981
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: what are you actually trying to do? The only guy

982
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: who impressed me at Bulls Media day was Matzos Buzzellis,

983
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: who said he wants to win Most Improved Player this

984
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: year and he wants to be an All Defensive team

985
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: player this year. Like those would be huge steps forward

986
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: for Mantus Boozellis, but at least somebody there is trying

987
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: to do the right things and has expectations for at

988
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: least himself going into the season. He also says he

989
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: wants to win a championship, but I think the Bowls

990
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: are probably a little bit away from contending for a title.

991
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: But you know, if Josh Giddy is going to be

992
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: looked at the end of last season, if Mantas Bozellis

993
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: wins Most improve and makes All Defense, maybe they're cooking something.

994
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: Nats.

995
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: How about the Blue Jays though? What's the playoff outlook

996
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: look like for the Blue Jays?

997
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: Hopefully the Bats get going a little bit because they

998
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: were a team that everybody start to hype, and then

999
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: they lost six of seven, but then they responded well

1000
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 2: with the sweep to end this whole freaking one hundred

1001
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: and sixty two. So they look good, they're excited, But

1002
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: the Bats number one, Yeah, they just stalled a little bit.

1003
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: In second. I don't like five days off between the

1004
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: playoffs or excuse me, the regular season and the playoffs

1005
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: for teams that actually win their division, because they have

1006
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: to wait for the other series to go on. So

1007
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I'm concerned about the Bats. If they've stalled

1008
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: to end the season now here we see them go

1009
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: after five days off, it's yeah, I'm.

1010
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: A little worried.

1011
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried. And they're going to throw in

1012
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: an injured Bobashit probably who's going to come back, Boba Boba.

1013
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll be all right. But yeah, I'm definitely concerned

1014
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: about the Bats.

1015
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: I hate that bye when like you win the division,

1016
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: it kind of sucks to get the buye, especially I

1017
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: think they play the winner of Yankees Red Sox. Right, Yes,

1018
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: that's like so similar to the way the Braves season

1019
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: ended the past two years, Like they won the division,

1020
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: got the buye, but then the hot team in the

1021
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: second half of the year. It turned out to be

1022
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: the Phillies, a division rival, just like what the Blue

1023
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Jays are going to be running into. Gets a little

1024
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: bit more consistency and they stay playing rather than wasting.

1025
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: The bye is a killer. I think you got to

1026
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: be able to respond.

1027
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: I listened to the Blue Jays broadcasts and Buck Martinez,

1028
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays legend, always was saying, everybody on that roster,

1029
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: the pitchers, the hitters, the coaches, the fans, everybody loves

1030
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: the time off. I don't get it. This is a game.

1031
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: You wake up, you put on your cleats, you go run,

1032
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: you sit down, you put on some seeds in your mouth,

1033
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: spit them out, you get up, and you go out

1034
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: and you play. You hit the ball four times a game,

1035
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: you get your VP. It's the same thing from March

1036
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 2: to the end of October, then boom sit out, or

1037
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 2: the end of September then boom down.

1038
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, five days you just sit there.

1039
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a flow. So those those division series,

1040
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: it's the best three out of five. It sounds weird

1041
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: to say that's quick. Yeah, it's not a lot of

1042
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 2: room for error, Yeah, exactly. And then DBD hopefully the

1043
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: J's are are in that championship series.

1044
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: Yes, we shall see. I got some time to dig

1045
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: out my Blue Jays hat. I think it's in my closet,

1046
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: but not completely certain.

1047
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: Everybody excited last thing about hats. Since you mentioned hats,

1048
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I almost bought another one. All I do is have

1049
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: Blue Jays hats. I don't need another one. But everybody

1050
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: excited about the white panel hats. It's just the basically

1051
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: it's white.

1052
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: One class. The classic Blue Jays look white in front

1053
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: blue backs.

1054
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because they don't wear them a lot.

1055
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: It is. It is a class. Yeah, I don't know how.

1056
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say a lot like they've gone through somebody

1057
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: newer ones. This is a throwback. Well it's it's not

1058
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: all the way, it's not. I don't know what the panel,

1059
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: how big the panel is if it's all the way

1060
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: to the front. Anyways, almost bought one. So if anybody

1061
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: has a used one they don't want, I'd love a

1062
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: used one. Why do I want to use one?

1063
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: Send your hat to test where your used hat. Used

1064
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: hat is up there with used shoes as one of

1065
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: the weirdest things to put on. But look, man, spray

1066
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: it with some lyesoil or something. You're living the life.

1067
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: You got a little bit of time to figure it

1068
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: out as well.

1069
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be tough.

1070
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. We got some more injury news. The

1071
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: Grizzlies announced on Friday that Brandon Clark is undergoing a

1072
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: procedure on his knee after having another procedure earlier. There's

1073
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: some complications I suppose on his rehab and he's gonna

1074
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: be reevaluated in six weeks. They also announced that Zach

1075
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: Edy is out another six to nine weeks not nice

1076
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: with his ankle injury, and Jaron Jackson JUNR is expected

1077
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: to return in four to six weeks. Jay Huff went

1078
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: to the Pacers over the summer, So now the only

1079
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: healthy center in Memphis is Jock Landale. This seems like

1080
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: bad news, tests.

1081
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: Very bad news. Who is going to play for this team.

1082
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: I know Jock is gonna get out there, He's going

1083
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: to bank some bodies. But this team is small. We

1084
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: talked about the Warriors off the top being small. This

1085
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: is a terribly small team. I think you're going to

1086
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: see a bunch of wings out there. How how big

1087
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: do they go with their wings? Do they you know

1088
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: they size up and put Gigi Jackson, who's also probably

1089
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: still growing because he's a kid like Derek Lively. And

1090
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: you have a bunch of really good wing defenders, Vince Williams,

1091
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: Cedric Coward their new guy. So that bodes well. I

1092
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: guess their team that can get by with their wing depth.

1093
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how much they can size up, but

1094
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: it is scary that both those guys you mentioned in

1095
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: Zach ed and jar and Jackson Junior out to go

1096
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: along with Brandon Clark, who has had some injury issues.

1097
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: That just sucks for this Canadian that he just hasn't

1098
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: been able to get out there for full on seasons

1099
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. And the last year he

1100
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: played a lot of games surprisingly what was banged up

1101
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: in the postseason, And so here we are.

1102
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 1: That's start, Yeah, exactly right, sixty four games for Brandon Clark,

1103
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: but like you're saying, he got hurt towards the end

1104
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: of last year, six games only in the twenty three

1105
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: to twenty four season. Hasn't played more than sixty four

1106
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: games in a season in his career. Just seems to

1107
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: always be banged up. And I was saying earlier there's

1108
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: some teams they're going to be behind the eight ball

1109
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: before the season even really gets kicked off, and I

1110
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: think the Grizzlies could be one of those teams. They've

1111
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: already got a major adjustment to make, going from Taylor

1112
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: Jenkins to now a full season of Isolo as their coach.

1113
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: They did the Desmond Bane for Contavious Caldwell Pope trade,

1114
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: which was more financially motivated than anything. Definitely a downgrade

1115
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: on the court going from Bain to KCP, and now

1116
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: they basically don't have any centers ready to play. Jack

1117
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: Landale was out of the rotation for most of the

1118
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: year with Houston last year. They were happy to see

1119
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: him go, even though they're running out double bigs, and

1120
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: they brought in Clint Cappella, so that shows you what

1121
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: they thought of Jock Landale. Definitely not a starting caliber guy.

1122
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: I do like Santi al Dama, I think he's gonna

1123
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: have to step up massively for the Grizzlies, But you

1124
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: could see them having a really slow start and kind

1125
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: of trying to come from behind once Jared Jackson Junior

1126
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: most especially comes back. I guess it's good news for

1127
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: them that he is the guy who's supposed to be returning, soonest.

1128
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, the team looks like they'll be okay whenever

1129
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: they get Edie and Jackson together, like I saw they took,

1130
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: you know, their starting lineup picture together at media Day.

1131
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: The starting lineup looks decent, but it's gonna be a

1132
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: little bit before we actually see them all together.

1133
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah. The positive is Jared Jackson Junior will

1134
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: be their starting center not too far into the season.

1135
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: It shouldn't take that long. Other positives. When east Elo

1136
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: took over at the beginning of April, he gave the

1137
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: ball to John Rant to run a lot more pick

1138
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: and rolls, and so he will be to do that again.

1139
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: He'll have a different pick setter and Jock Landale, but

1140
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: that guy can set some picks and so it's not

1141
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: on John Morant to be the number one guy for

1142
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: the entire season. But it would have been great to

1143
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: have a camp with Jaron Jackson Jr. Out there running

1144
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: with John Rant when you have your first season under

1145
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: Thomas Islo. So you know all that to say, the

1146
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: other guys like Jackson, who didn't play the entire season

1147
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: last year, will be there healthy and so there's there

1148
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: are some bodies to fill up the roster. While Jared

1149
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: Jackson Jr. Is hurt because he's the primary guy you

1150
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: got to be concerned about. Although you know, Zach Edi

1151
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: had a tough first year too with his injuries, so

1152
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: people will look at him quickly and say, whoa, he's

1153
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: seven to four. Maybe he's always going to have issues.

1154
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: So that's the the worrisome part with him.

1155
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely worry. Some other thing I wanted to ask you,

1156
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: we saw you know, new photos of old faces in

1157
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: new places. Who do you was the weirdest new player

1158
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: to see in a new jersey at Media Day because

1159
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: we've had, you know, maybe not the most exciting summer,

1160
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: but there was still some player movement during the off season.

1161
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: I will say the thing that was weirdest to me

1162
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: was the new look for a bunch of guys not jerseys.

1163
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: I will say, like Jamal Murray has the twists of

1164
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: his hair going. I've never seen him do that before

1165
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: and great sign for Jamal Murray. He was also asked, hey,

1166
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: do you feel like this is gonna be the first

1167
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: year you make the All Star Game? Hey?

1168
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: Man, I do. I'm not worried about that.

1169
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have a good November, I

1170
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: think he said, or maybe he said first month. Either way,

1171
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: he's going to start the season well, he says, he

1172
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: feels healthy. Twists look good. Also, Jason Tatum's braids, Yeah, yeah,

1173
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: as Jalen Brown said, I don't know he was. I

1174
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 2: guess he was on a twitch. I don't know he

1175
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: was watching. He was looking at a video on his phone.

1176
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: When he saw Jason Tatum with the braids. He said, well,

1177
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: j t will try just the boat anything, and he did,

1178
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: and he looks good. I think he looks good. There's

1179
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: a bunch of different facial hair going around the NBA,

1180
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: so to me, just seeing everybody sitting at their at

1181
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: their new on there at the desk for the press

1182
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: conference with their new look, I thought that was the

1183
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: weirdest thing for me.

1184
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like the new looks. Jimmy Butler playing it straightforward,

1185
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: you know he did, uh, he did the dreadlocks once

1186
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: upon a time. He did Emo Jimmy. Then last year

1187
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 1: for the heat he was like, I'm locked in normal look.

1188
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: He said. Emo Jimmy might make a return later this year.

1189
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: Because Buddy Healed is a big fan of Emo, Jimmy

1190
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: and those guys are like, uh, just a hilarious mix together.

1191
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: For me, the weirdest player to see in a New

1192
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 1: Jersey was definitely Kevin Love on the Jazz. He people

1193
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: were saying they should call this guy Big Love after

1194
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: the HBO series about Uh, I think some Mormons in

1195
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: the Utah as well. There was a video Kevin Love

1196
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: with the other New Jazz Usuf Nurkic and Kyle Anderson.

1197
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: These guys didn't necessarily look thrilled to be in Utah,

1198
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: but Kevin Love said prior to aging, he would have

1199
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: taken this as a negative thing and try to like

1200
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: build himself self up, like you know, they wrote me off,

1201
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: but I didn't right back kind of thing. Instead, he's

1202
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: trying to be a positive light to his teammates, which

1203
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: I think means he's going to be pretty nice with

1204
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: the memes because that was something he got really good

1205
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: at there at the end of his Miami tenure.

1206
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: He was the meme champ, that's for sure. It's great

1207
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: to have that positivity around for guy like Ace Bailey,

1208
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: who I know most people are saying, well, he didn't

1209
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: want to be here. I think that's a bunch of

1210
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: bull hockey. He looked like he wanted to be there

1211
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: when he was asked about Yesjay. They went on a

1212
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: hike a few weeks ago. He could hear Ace Bailey saying, WHOA,

1213
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: this is the first hike in my life.

1214
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: I think.

1215
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 2: He seems super happy, and so I know. We talked

1216
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 2: about Lowry marketing and where we would where we would

1217
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: place him in terms of the rankings when we did

1218
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: our entire show ranking everybody in terms of a starter,

1219
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, that guy's an All star man.

1220
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: He's not just a one time All Star. I know

1221
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: it's tough, but there's lots of positivity going around in Utah.

1222
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: I think it will be tough for him to make it,

1223
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: but to see a guy like Ace Bailey, who I

1224
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: think you could say is the most you know, raw

1225
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: talent out there. I know Lowry is really really great player,

1226
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: but if we can see Ace Bailey grow into a

1227
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: really good player, that's obviously incredibly great for the Utah

1228
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: Jazz who've tried year after year after year after year

1229
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: to get the number one pick. They end up with

1230
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: the guy at number five, who supposedly didn't want to

1231
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: be there. But you hear him in the Prescot diferences.

1232
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: In his first one, he was all smiles.

1233
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably realized I'm gonna get the ball a

1234
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: lot and get to shoot a lot. So, like I know,

1235
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: he wanted to go to Washington where that would have

1236
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: been the case as well, but he decided to part

1237
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: ways with Omar Cooper. I don't know if he was

1238
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: his manager or as agent, but seemed to be kind

1239
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: of a driving force for getting Ace away from Utah.

1240
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: Didn't work out that way, but there's opportunity there. I

1241
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: also saw Lowry markinen H throwing a frisbee.

1242
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't see that.

1243
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like they were out on some hills throwing

1244
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: a frisbee with the Jazz guys. So at least they

1245
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: got some uh, some good camaraderie and some beautiful nature

1246
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: out there in Utah. And the uniforms look great like

1247
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: they're going there like they're full on mountain rebrand at

1248
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: this point, because they were kind of like halfway in

1249
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: between last year. But they look really sweet. Uh, just

1250
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: probably not going to be a lot of winds for

1251
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: the Jazz. I also like seeing them.

1252
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: Nice jersey, that's a nice purple soft jersey.

1253
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I like the Gradient Mountains looks beautiful. It does. Yeah.

1254
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: I liked seeing an old Chris Paul back on the Clippers.

1255
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: That was pretty interesting, wearing their new set of uniforms.

1256
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: And I saw Duncan Robinson has like a little mustache.

1257
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: Going there on the Oh that is so hot right now?

1258
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: A few guys that were not in camp though, there

1259
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: are some free agents left on the market. People are

1260
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: making noise that this is the first time since two

1261
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: thousand and eight that Russell Westbrook isn't at a media

1262
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: day currently unsigned. Who do you think is the best

1263
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: free agent left on the market? Task so that anybody

1264
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: out there that can still help a.

1265
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 2: Team, Oh yeah, there, it definitely is. It depends what

1266
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: your team needs. Malik Beasley is still available. He's an

1267
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: incredible shooter. He obviously has off court issues. With the

1268
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: investigation still ongoing, Am I right that it's still ongoing?

1269
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: It's a question mark to me because there was you know,

1270
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: I think there was a report earlier in the summer

1271
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: that the investigation is over. But yeah, it doesn't necessarily

1272
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: seem totally cleared, right yeah, playing so I don't exactly

1273
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: know what's going down, But no, team has signed him.

1274
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: He's definitely the best player left out there, but I

1275
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: think there are still questions to be answered before some

1276
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: team decides to take the plunge.

1277
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: I get it for sure. So that's that's a different

1278
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: definitely a question mark. You mentioned Duncan Robinson. That guy

1279
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 2: is basically taking Malik Beasley's spot with the Pistons, although

1280
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: it seems like the Pistons can still re sign Malik Beasley,

1281
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: would be a far far smaller contract than he initially

1282
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 2: was going to get. But I mean that's an incredible

1283
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: shooter that's still available. Jonathan Kaming is still available as

1284
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: a great scorer out there. But I would say because

1285
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: those two guys are question marks, Quentin Grimes, I think

1286
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 2: is the best player if you know, if you want,

1287
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: what you're getting is a lock of a good secondary

1288
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: off the ball score, but will also be fine taking

1289
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: the best offensive player on the defensive end. He's your guy,

1290
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: he's available, So I would go through those three. But

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: I think there's some other flyers that you could take

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: on a bunch of players that are still available.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. I mean Beasley, like we said, big

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01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: time question mark, kaminga yet to be resolved. Seems likely

1295
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: he'll be on the Warriors one way or another, just

1296
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: because the reporting around him is that trade talks have

1297
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: been shut down, basically on the Warrior side saying we're

1298
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: not increasing our offers out there. Everybody knows what the

1299
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,919
Speaker 1: score is here. We'll see what happens. And then Grimes

1300
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: feels like he's going to be back on the Sixers

1301
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: some way or another. They've only offered him like a

1302
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: four year, forty million dollar contract something on a low value.

1303
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: But he opened a lot of eyes last season after

1304
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: the Dallas deal was done, and he kinda took the

1305
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to put some forty point games up and show

1306
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: how much more he can do with the ball. Just

1307
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like there's a team for him that's going

1308
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of money. So maybe he takes

1309
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: the qualifying offer, goes back to Philadelphia, has another good season,

1310
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: and then is able to go into unrestricted free agency.

1311
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: But the Flyers, the questions are like, is Westbrook going

1312
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: to get signed and which team will sign him? Maybe

1313
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 1: Dallas is interested. I haven't looked at their financials to

1314
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: know if they can even do it, but they're a

1315
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: team that is lacking in point guard depth, even though

1316
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: they did bring back Dennis Smith Junior and then Ben Simmons.

1317
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: I suppose is a question as well. He played in

1318
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: the NBA last year. Apparently the Knicks were kicking the

1319
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: tires on him. But it's not entirely certain that Ben

1320
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: Simmons wants to continue his NBA career. I think Stephan

1321
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: Bondi reported.

1322
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: That I will throw in a couple guys that have

1323
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: maybe produced an emergency podcast on our show, Cam Reddish

1324
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:04,919
Speaker 2: is available.

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: I thought he signed overseas. Oh did he Yeah, he's

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01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: playing for some team overseas. Now, Oh he's in Lithuania.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: Maybe, huh, I didn't see that.

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: You see saw Louis Okay sal le I. He's playing

1329
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: in the Lithuanian League.

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, surprising. I would have thrown him in like

1331
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: sort of into the camp with Delan o'banton, who's still

1332
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: available as in a very capable guy. We were talking

1333
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: about Portland recently. I think that was last year where

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: Chauncey Phillips only played him in fourth quarters for a

1335
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: while and he was like one.

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Speaker 1: Of the best fourth quarter scores in the league or

1337
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: something like that, right, Dolan o'banton. That's a good call.

1338
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: My team should take a gamble on him.

1339
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, a younger version of Cam Reddish who yeah

1340
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 2: didn't Yeah he didn't click. But Delan Bennett feels like

1341
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: I can still can still get there. It's the Cam

1342
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 2: Reddish level.

1343
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: That people like us.

1344
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 2: Did an emergency podcast for because you know, he had

1345
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: that great playoff series with the Atlanta Hawks when they

1346
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 2: went to the conference finals. As he contributed in that series,

1347
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't say great series.

1348
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he contributed. The only reason we did Cam Ruddish

1349
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: emergency podcast is because he was the number ten overall pick.

1350
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: There's no other reason. He hasn't necessitated a podcast before

1351
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: or since he been back. He played defense though for

1352
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: a while. He did up in that series, that's for sure. Yeah,

1353
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: that was a sixer series. I think Sixers Hawks.

1354
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bucks one is Yeah, the Bucks was the

1355
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: conference finals where they lost. Yeah, he was playing in

1356
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: that when he was playing Chris Midleton alright. In that one.

1357
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of old guys like you mentioned point.

1358
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 2: Guard, like if you desperately need one, Corey Joseph literally

1359
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: was arting for the Alarto Magic last year for a bit,

1360
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: he's available, and then Seth Curry we talked about and

1361
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: there's a real oldies out there, like Markis Morris or

1362
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan. If you want a locker room smiler, he's

1363
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: still available. Jic listed all the guys that he's gonna

1364
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: miss from his team left this past season. DeAndre Jordan

1365
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: was one of them.

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01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: Vlacho Chanchar Yeah, yeah, I think he listed basically every

1367
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: Nugget who was on the team last year except for

1368
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr.

1369
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, I wonder why that happened. And Reggie Jackson,

1370
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: now that you mentioned Nuggets, he's available. Need a deep,

1371
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: deep roster player.

1372
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Speaker 1: I can see him coming back. I saw Tory Craig

1373
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: and Jay Crowder were out there. Those are guys that

1374
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: always get signed at the end of the season to

1375
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: some team. But yeah, the bargain bin is getting pretty

1376
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: empty here. I guess the biggest question mark is probably

1377
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: I wonder if the team will decide to give him

1378
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: a run. We shall see anything else tasks from these

1379
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: couple of media days, or shall we wrap things up?

1380
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 2: I think our media day out at this point. I

1381
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: think I've mentioned everything I possibly know from media Day,

1382
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: all the other stuff was like why talking Dearn Fox

1383
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: as well, Uh, the fact that he's got a hamstring injury,

1384
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be ready for the first game of

1385
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: the season. So although Victor women Yama is fricking ready

1386
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: and seems like he's very well cultured, after this off season,

1387
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: he doesn't get a training camp with the Aaron Fox.

1388
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: That's that's too bad. Yeah, Fox is also recovering from

1389
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: like finger surgery as well.

1390
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: But hamstring means you can't run in training camp at all.

1391
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: You can't get possessions with Victor women Yama. You're gonna

1392
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 2: miss no. Remember first is the target date, So not

1393
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: only are going to miss the first game, you're going

1394
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 2: to miss a few. So that's things. And then the

1395
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: Kauhi stuff, as you said.

1396
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Kauhi stuff. I mean, there's not much else

1397
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: for the Clippers to do besides duck the question and

1398
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: say we look forward to the investigation proving that we

1399
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: were doing legal stuff. Though it does seem pretty notable

1400
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 1: that when they're asked if Uncle Dennis is asking for

1401
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: things outside of the limits of the salary cap, and

1402
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: they're basically like, yeah, we all know the rules, they're

1403
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: not just saying no. You know, they could easily say no,

1404
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: he didn't ask for anything like that, but they are

1405
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: clearly not saying that, So we will see what transpires there.

1406
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: Johannis made some waves as well, not being at Bucks

1407
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: training camp because he was diagnosed with COVID when he

1408
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: was over in Greece, though he zoomed in and kind

1409
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: of confirmed that, yeah, he had looked at some other places.

1410
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: I think that will probably still continue to be a

1411
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: storyline throughout the season his future with Milwaukee. But they

1412
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: signed his brother, they brought in Miles Turner. They did

1413
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: what they could to keep youian Us around over the summer,

1414
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: and if he's able to play to an MVP level

1415
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: like we've seen for the past seven seasons, the Bucks

1416
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: still have a chance in the Eastern Conference as a

1417
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: playoff team. So maybe that's something that keeps you on

1418
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: Us happy enough to stick around, because it doesn't seem

1419
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: like he wants to leave. But he also is always

1420
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: mentioning that the only thing he cares about is playing

1421
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: for a competitive team that's trying to win.

1422
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, and he did it. He had a long

1423
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: interview with Harris Staver in Greece, and I know a

1424
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: lot of people weren't tracking this Greek interview, but it's

1425
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: the first time I got to hear some real Greek.

1426
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 2: I don't consume a lot of Greek in my day

1427
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 2: to day, so I watched this whole thing, and I

1428
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 2: think one thing that didn't make a lot of headlines

1429
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: was him saying, yeah, I'd play in Europe at some point.

1430
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: And I know he didn't go hard on it, but

1431
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: he made it clear like sort of as you're as

1432
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: you're implying that he would be comfortable leaving Milwaukee at

1433
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: some point if things aren't going well. I think he

1434
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: knows that he is. He's not getting younger, he's thirty,

1435
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: and at some point he would be comfortable leaving Milwaukee

1436
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: if it's the right scenario. Now, Europe is way down

1437
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: the road, and he did say part of it is

1438
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: are they going to pay me the same as they

1439
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: do in America? And the answer no, I don't think so.

1440
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's even close. But there's there's some

1441
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: very rich European team owners that could I mean there's

1442
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: there was he even I think it was him who

1443
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: brought up, you know, MESSI coming to America in as

1444
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: a as a sort of a comparison.

1445
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: And so he didn't.

1446
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 2: He didn't rule it out, you know, five years or

1447
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: six years down the road. So you make a good

1448
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: point about even going somewhere else in the NBA. We don't.

1449
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: We don't know that Yanis is going to be there forever.

1450
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: And he is, you know, watching what's going on with

1451
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 2: Luca et cetera, and he knows very clear that it'd

1452
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 2: be fine with him at some point, I think too,

1453
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: to move on if things aren't great going well in Milwaukee.

1454
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: Although he loves Cole Anthony as his point guard man.

1455
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: He loves Anthony. Cole Anthony seems like a fun guy

1456
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: to have around. We'll see what happens with Giannis. I

1457
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: can definitely see at the end of his career, when

1458
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: he's ready to hang it up in the NBA, maybe

1459
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: he decides to go play overseas in Europe, maybe even

1460
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: in like whether it be this Lebron led league or

1461
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: this Adam Silver League, like helping launch it. He could

1462
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: play with all of his brothers on the same team.

1463
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: Get the Nasis over there. Costas is already playing overseas

1464
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: as well. Isn't there an Alex Antetokounmpo. Yeah, he's around

1465
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: all right, So that's four out of five. You can

1466
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: have a full team of Anto Tokumpo's if you're honest.

1467
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: So Desires, Yeah, Francis his brother Francis from if I

1468
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: am correct, he played soccer for a while. He can

1469
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: be out there.

1470
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: Call him up. Why not? Five on sa Chakompas sounds

1471
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: like a tough team to beat overseas, at least as

1472
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: for us. We'll be back sometime later this week. These

1473
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: teams are starting to practice. Maybe we'll get some news.

1474
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: We'll definitely hear about COMINGA and Grimes and what they

1475
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: decide to do with their contracts. So hopefully nobody gets

1476
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: hurt and any of these practices. I feel like we've

1477
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries in off season workouts that

1478
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: they're starting to surface right now. We've also got no

1479
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: buffs later this week. Episode two of Survivor is Wednesday night,

1480
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: so we'll be back on Thursday, and then we're getting

1481
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: into the season preview Season tasks NBA starts on October

1482
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: twenty first is Night one, so next week we're going

1483
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: to be starting our preview stuff. We'll do over under

1484
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: podcasts for the Eastern and Western Conference. We will talk

1485
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: about your your favorite team.

1486
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: Garone teed.

1487
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: Very exciting time.

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Speaker 2: It is an exciting time, looking forward to it. Man,

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Speaker 2: it feels right, it feels it feels exciting. Adam Silver

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Speaker 2: is right. Parody's great, Parody's great. A lot of teams

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Speaker 2: out there with a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's undefeated right now, even the Clippers. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: the Clipper bro. You heard it here first. Have a

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Speaker 1: great time, turn up, love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember disc golf is better

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Speaker 2: than frisbee fun, just better.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the disc people.