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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, June sixth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. I'm j E. Skeets here in the Classic

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Speaker 2: Factory and alongside me, back from covering the NBA Finals

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Speaker 2: in Denver.

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Speaker 3: It's Task Mellis Podcast listeners.

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Speaker 2: This is for you over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is, and here we

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Speaker 2: are the Bearded One Trey Kirby. He is in Miami

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Speaker 2: for Games three and four later this week, so make

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Speaker 2: sure you stay up to date with all of the

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Speaker 2: content him and Jerome are pumping out across the social

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Speaker 2: media channels. We're talking YouTube, shorts, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. Do

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Speaker 2: we put things to Facebook anymore? No one's even sure that's.

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Speaker 3: Such a good feeling. We don't.

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Speaker 2: I think it automatically goes, but no one goes to Facebook.

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Speaker 2: So if you do cool, but we're not actively over

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Speaker 2: there commenting with people. But yes, tk's on the road

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk to tasks a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in this podcast, obviously about your trip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys did a great job here holding it down.

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Speaker 2: We tried, we tried.

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: Looked like you had some fun though.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Denver was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you just love the people. You kept

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Speaker 2: saying that on playback. It's nice to hear.

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Speaker 3: Damn they're nice and it's high and no, I'm not

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Speaker 3: at all. They're just super nice. It's not like fake

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Speaker 3: Toronto nice. I mean, people in Toronto are great, but

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Speaker 3: it's like you think, oh Canadian hospitality. But in Toronto,

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Speaker 3: big city, and everybody's heads head down, let's do our things.

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Speaker 3: It's like smaller town. It's like going a moose Jaw Saskatoon,

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Speaker 3: not quite but a bigger city. Okay, super I believe,

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Speaker 2: It is on my bucket list of American cities I

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Speaker 2: want to visit for sure. To get up into.

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Speaker 3: Denver, it's a good move.

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Speaker 2: See how I deal with the altitude? You said you

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Speaker 2: had no problems until the mountain biking. We'll get to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, well we'll get to a little bit later,

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Speaker 3: but I can see what happened to the heat. Everybody

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Speaker 3: was saying things one to three days. It's legitimate. Not

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Speaker 3: that I I am not the example of why it's

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Speaker 2: we will get into the Denver Report and we've gotta

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Speaker 2: hear your like takeaways from games one and two of

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Speaker 2: the finals so far and game three coming up on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday night. But here, I was thinking we were gonna

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Speaker 2: have a pretty chill day here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a bit of a gap between games

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Speaker 2: hit the beach, answer a few questions and no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no yesterday. According to Shams our guy at the Athletic

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Speaker 2: Maverick Star, Kyrie Irving has reached out to his former

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Speaker 2: teammate Lebron James in an attempt to see if that

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Speaker 2: Lakers legend would come to Dallas Now, Bleacher reports Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 2: He went one step further. He wrote that the MAVs

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Speaker 2: were preparing to make an offer for Lebron last season

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Speaker 2: when the Lakers were spiraling, or me, really this season,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie decided to say, now you're not having a quiet day,

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Speaker 2: the first one the Mavericks actually pull off a Lebron trade?

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Speaker 2: Do you believe this is realistic at all?

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Speaker 3: last while that I've thought about it. But you said

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Speaker 3: it's a Kyrie call to Cham's.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's there's a possibility that it's also a Lebron

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Speaker 3: I think it could benefit both as a leverage play

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Speaker 3: because Lebron came off the floor after he swept by

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Speaker 3: that automatically puts a little bit more pressure on Polinka,

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Speaker 3: and I think this could be another step. This just

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Speaker 3: you a call. Let's have this conversation. You put it

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Speaker 3: That benefits you and makes it look like you want

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Speaker 3: to stay there and sign for the max. Yes, And

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Speaker 3: it benefits me because I put more pressure on the

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Speaker 2: Now, So what's the end game too yet? Kyrie to La.

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Speaker 3: That would be fantastic or just upgrading the roster. I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's necessarily one hundred percent Kyrie to LA,

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Speaker 3: go for your freaking championship. This is Lebron's last chance.

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Speaker 3: Lebron is a very very very very very very good player.

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Speaker 3: He's turning thirty nine in December. He's trying to let

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, I guess I can squint and see what

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Speaker 2: think Lebrons cssarily needs to like call up Kyrie and say, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: leak this to Chams and Haynes to benefit me, to

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, well, why do you want to go

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Speaker 3: You need another move. I mean, I mean they Lebron

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, somebody told, somebody leaked this information. Is

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Speaker 2: Is it them together? Is it someone else? Because Schaums

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Speaker 2: it's obviously presented of these.

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Speaker 3: Yes, No, it's real. Yeah, I one hundred percent believe

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Speaker 3: that the Shamp's point of view. I saw Shams in Denver.

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Speaker 3: We had a great handshake, always a great bro handshake

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Speaker 3: with Shams. He didn't tell me about this rumor whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I do think this is entirely real. But

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Speaker 3: do you think that it's possible that Lebron James could

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Speaker 3: be wearing a MAVs jersey?

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Speaker 2: No? What would they even trade? Like, try and talk

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Speaker 2: yourself into anything the Mavericks could offer in a Lebron trade.

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Speaker 2: It's probably starting with Tim Hardaway Junior and his contract,

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Speaker 2: then these picks that you said that aren't even all

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Speaker 2: he's turning thirty nine, it is still Lebron James here.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound all that interesting to me, Like why

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Speaker 3: The whole this is he's still a great player, it's

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Speaker 2: Right right, right right, And then there is this sort

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Speaker 2: so there's you could get crazy that way, but that

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Speaker 3: It depends what they have around him. They'd still need

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Speaker 3: more players. Yeah, so no, but you mentioned a couple

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Speaker 3: of things there, the buyout part where Dallas still would

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Speaker 3: that part of it. Yeah, it's it's unlikely. I started

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Speaker 3: really doesn't make sense. I think the draft picks is

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Speaker 3: Do you see them ever trying to rebuild when you

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Speaker 3: do have Anthony Davis on the roster? I mean it

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Speaker 3: I take the two percent back because you can probably

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Speaker 3: get better draft picks out there, Like you said, number

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Speaker 3: They're just lucky and it's probably all plan that they're

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Speaker 3: and everybody's talking about it. Yeah, because we got a

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Speaker 2: Why would Lebron also want to leave LA. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if he's got set up pretty nice right now. With

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Speaker 2: his games at USC now. I know, you could take

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Speaker 2: other city for that matter, and fly home and see

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Speaker 2: him playing and all that. But it's got set up

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Speaker 2: pretty nice obviously. The contract the team that did go

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Speaker 2: moves at the deadline to help his team. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the part I don't really understand too.

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Speaker 3: I totally hear you. It doesn't really make a lot

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Speaker 3: When they didn't offer him that MAX extention, he said,

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Speaker 2: Right because he is an unrestricted free agent, the Lakers

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Speaker 2: Go trade for Kyrie that it's me. It's Kyrie sad

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Speaker 3: And so if Kyrie signs, let's just keep going with

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Speaker 3: this facetious idea of what Kyrie signs in Dallas for

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Speaker 2: To Dallas, right, Well, that's the problem here.

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Speaker 3: So Austin Reeves would have to be signed, sure, okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess he signed Ruey and that's the part of

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Speaker 2: What does that say to Luca?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not great, not great.

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Speaker 2: No, not that it went well when Kyrie came there.

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Speaker 3: But there's a higher there's still a higher ceiling with Kyrie,

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Speaker 3: I would say, right, right, right than Austin, Reeves and

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Speaker 3: want to go that angle, like he's just not going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that would be really strange if suddenly after

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Speaker 2: that's maximum chaos, that's what this guy likes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are no logics, there's no logic left. No, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: Let's ask this cue from the Lakers side of things.

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Speaker 2: Do you even think they should want Kyrieving?

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Speaker 3: I think so, I think so why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Are you I have to run through?

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Speaker 2: Why not? If you want a clown show, a reality show?

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Speaker 3: I guess they just they showed that with Lebron they

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Speaker 2: Well, well, first off, they went pretty far. They were

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Speaker 3: It's not bad. It's not a championship.

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Speaker 2: But we've seen a couple times now, especially when Kyrie Okay,

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Speaker 2: It's not like they were winning a lot of games.

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Speaker 2: And all of the other reasons that, you know, all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, But things seem to be a

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Speaker 2: And maybe Lebron's thinking as a producer here, because a

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Speaker 2: It's like, this would be great. It'd be great for

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Speaker 3: There's growth, that's smart.

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Speaker 2: So maybe he's looking at it that way.

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Speaker 3: He's eping this thing. Yeah, totally, I could see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Sure he could just be Kyrie just off the cuff.

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Speaker 3: He ends his IG live okay and recording. Are you

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Speaker 3: sure you want to end this recording? Yes? And then

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Speaker 3: what I just said. I don't like that. I want

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Speaker 3: So that's his play.

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Speaker 2: But that's his leverage play a little bit.

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Speaker 3: pushing on Polinka to hopefully get Kyrie there. But the

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Speaker 3: MAVs and the Lakers, it's risky. Yeah, and I quickly say,

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Speaker 3: why wouldn't the Lakers want him there? Well, part of

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Speaker 3: maybe maybe Austin Reeves grows a little bit if they

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Speaker 3: sign him and all that, But Kyrie's a quicker way,

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Speaker 3: and he is he is a great He is a great, great,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, call your shot here. How does

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Speaker 3: I'd love for there to be chaos. I'd love for

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Speaker 3: wouldn't make Luca feel all that great. So I think

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Speaker 3: you just you just signed that contract with Kyrie. When

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Speaker 2: Knew that this was a bit of a handshake deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it was a bit of a trial run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the maps and backs are against the wall. They

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Speaker 3: It wasn't just a rental. And yeah, now they have

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Speaker 2: What's so funny though, like this headline and us breaking

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Speaker 2: It's like as if the MAVs of two years ago

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Speaker 2: another ring. But it's like the better chances in La

431
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Speaker 2: for Lebron is what I get back to when I

432
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: started this idea of like, let's say it even happen Lebron,

433
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Speaker 2: Luke and Kyrie. Do we really think that's a title

434
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: contender right away? There's like zero rim protection. The defense

435
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: is a huge question. Offense, sure, but you know we've

436
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 2: seen that not work already in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. Yeah, you have Anthony Davis

438
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: beside you, who is a different kind of player rather

439
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: than three ball heindlers, but still would be good. I

440
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: mean they did it, like you said seven years ago.

441
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: Was Lebron and Kyrie made it happen? They did have

442
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: some shooters and grinders around. Yes, yes, so it was

443
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: a little different and Lebron was a little bit younger.

444
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: But Cubes does it in a heartbeat if he can.

445
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, Shark tank Baby, make me a deal. Well,

446
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: let's hear from you guys out there. What do you

447
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: think about all of this Kyrie and Lebron reunion? Is

448
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: it in Dallas? Is this a play for somehow Kyrie

449
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: to get to La? Is this Lebron thinking something else?

450
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 2: Is he just producing his show? Where does Draymond Green

451
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: fit into all of this. Let us know a little

452
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: bit of other news here off of something we talked

453
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Speaker 2: about yesterday. I got a couple more names that are

454
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Speaker 2: committing to Team USA. Brandon Ingram, Jared Jackson Junior are

455
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: going to be with tam USA for the Phoebo World

456
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: Cup here in the summer. So just to break it down,

457
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: here's who we know. Guards, Anthony Edwards, Tyre's Halliburton, Jalen Brunson,

458
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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, forwards, Michael Bridges, brandon Ingram, Bobby Portis and center.

459
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Speaker 2: Just one right now, Jared Jackson Jr. I think that's

460
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: eight guys and that would, uh, that would leave for

461
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: remaining spots if these eight names are like on the team.

462
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused by that. Is that what this is?

463
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Are these eight guys going or is it like see

464
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: you at camp type thing and you'll probably be on

465
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: the team because you've committed. Do you know the answer?

466
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Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, it's a it's a solid squad, but

467
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 3: it's good. It doesn't have the superstar level players.

468
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: No, there's no kd or Booker or Tatum or Dame

469
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: or maybe even Draymond for you know, vet defensive presence,

470
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: but I think he's talked about maybe playing Jimmy. I

471
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: guess Bam.

472
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: There's so many good ones out there, so you throw

473
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: out Jared Jackson Junior in this situation, like guys like that,

474
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 3: this would be an incredible team. Jaron Jackson's on your

475
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: short line when there's there's not as much room out there,

476
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: he would be blocking everything defensively. So, yeah, this team

477
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: looks good, But isn't it a camp. Isn't it always

478
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: a camp? You got to kind of make the squad?

479
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I guess so, I guess so. But I'm

480
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: also reading this as like these guys are sort of

481
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: on the team because why wouldn't we know another twenty

482
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: names right right?

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on that, and especially because

484
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: we don't have, yeah, the breadth of like superstar players here,

485
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: and you know, you're you're grinder not your grinder types,

486
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: but you're like even your guys that just aren't going

487
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 3: to make the team right right, like you're Keldon Johnson's

488
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: or that kind of thing. So it does make it

489
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Speaker 3: sound more like this is what we got for the

490
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Speaker 3: World Cup. This is going to be the squad and.

491
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Four spots left.

492
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not quite done. Well, they have to bring

493
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 3: more than twelve even, right, Like, there's got to be

494
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: some guys in camps.

495
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Speaker 2: That's true.

496
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Speaker 3: But I'm excited for the World Cup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was thinking, uh yesterday and I

498
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: checked to make sure I was right. Sort of weird.

499
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Steph Curry's never played on a golden team USA Olympics

500
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: should say Olympics. He played on a couple earlier in

501
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: his career, Feeble World Cups. He won gold twenty ten

502
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: and fourteen, I think, but never never played on a

503
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: team USA. Part of that was injury.

504
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that weird? It is weird.

505
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: That's just gonna be a strange thing that he doesn't have.

506
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Maybe he will in where are we playing next Paris?

507
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: Maybe he will be on a team, But I don't know.

508
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: It's just funny to me because all these other guys

509
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: of like the greatest of all time, they have one,

510
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: if not way more than one, uh huh, gold medals

511
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: from the Olympics. But yeah, he doesn't strange filling it

512
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: out with those names that I said, like aunt Helibert

513
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: and Brunson, Reeves, Bridges, ingram Portis and then Triple J

514
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: like what need another center? You think they could use

515
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: a star or two at least it's been on this

516
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: squad before.

517
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: Like would be nice.

518
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just am a little puzzled why there

520
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: isn't a superstar committed.

521
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they're still playing in the finals, two of them,

522
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: particularly and Bam and Jimmy Phil Like Bam will be

523
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: on this.

524
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: Team, feels like.

525
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: And I do remember reports of Draymond flirting with the

526
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: idea of playing, And.

527
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: I guess there is the possibility of just as you

528
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: said sort of about Steph taking this year off because

529
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: it has it's back to back years and playing next

530
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: year in the Olympics.

531
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, it's next year the.

532
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: Olympics, aren't they twenty twenty four? Things got jumbled up?

533
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Holy crap? Is that right? Yeah? I think you are right.

534
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: Things got jumbled because of COVID things.

535
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: The last Olympics, Summer Olympics. Why am I drawing a blank?

536
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: It was real? It was an a sure, it wasn't

537
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: not it was was it Rio was sixteen?

538
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it was the really really is the right?

539
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: I'll look it up now, let's driving me nuts. Uh.

540
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: Tokyo, yeah, Tokyo, Yeah, I was because they kept calling

541
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: it it was. They continuously called it the twenty twenty

542
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: Tokyo Olympics even though they played in twenty twenty and one.

543
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: Right, oh COVID. Yeah, yeah, that's why we're all confused. Okay, okay,

544
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: So we'll see who gets those four remaining spots, and

545
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: if those eight names that I listed are even, Like,

546
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: are they on the team or they locked like as

547
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves going to the Philippines to play in the

548
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: Feeble World Cup. We're not sure.

549
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the World Cup back, it's Japan, Indonesia and

550
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: the Philippines.

551
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: That's true, I say all three. I guess maybe TMSA

552
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 2: is in. I think that's where they're stationed for the

553
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: first part. Yes, that's right.

554
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: When you want to remember it, it's easy to remember

555
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 3: that way.

556
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's take our first break when we come

557
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: back some NBA Finals talk. Don't you worry, Michael Malone. Okay,

558
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: we'll get into tasks, takeaways from the series so far,

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Speaker 2: and get the Denver Report. Don't go anywhere, all right.

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Speaker 2: If you're joining us live on YouTube, hit that like

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Speaker 2: others find the show. As I said off the top, Tass,

564
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: he just got back from Denver where you were covering

565
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: games one and two the NBA Finals, So we haven't

566
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: had a chance to like get your real takeaways from

567
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: the heat Nuggets so far. When we get into the

568
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: actual x's and o's and what's happened through two games

569
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: with this series tied at one game apiece, what do

570
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: you got with the big takeaways?

571
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I've had an itch that I couldn't scratch

572
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: really because I didn't really get the chance to talk

573
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: about the games, just joining you guys on playback during

574
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: the games from the seats there, and I think you

575
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: have to start through the first two games just talking

576
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: about how great the heat are, how incredible the heat are,

577
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: because in that arena and in the city of Denver,

578
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: there was a feeling starting to bubble, and myself included

579
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: that this map or this mass team, this Nuggets team

580
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: was unbeatable in a way, and that was starting to

581
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: permeate in the media there They're writing things like playing

582
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: the parade route. But the heat phenomenal, and I don't

583
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: think the Nuggets disrespected the Heat by any means. No,

584
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: they're all business. But I think a guy like Michael

585
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: Porter Junior may have been starting to like the smell

586
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: of his own stuff there and going from Game one

587
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: where he was the story and he was an incredible

588
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: defensive player, played the most minutes of his entire season.

589
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: Because he was so good, and because the Heat started small,

590
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: it made more sense. He had a lousy game too,

591
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: just trying to overshoot and also defensively, and that's where

592
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: it was lost. He was the heat made him hey,

593
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: and Sposer did a great job of getting his guys

594
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: like Strus who MPJ had a big responsibility on getting

595
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: him loose, and he just so. I said, I was

596
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: gonna start talking about the Heat, then I started talking

597
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: with the Nuggets. He just didn't stop. Baby, that was incredible. Okay,

598
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: we all knew, we both thought the.

599
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: Heats Cinderella run was over. They were going to turn

600
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: back into a pumpkin, and a part of it because

601
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 2: they were playing in the Nuggets, who looked like they

602
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: had just run through the Western Conference, just swept Lebron

603
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: and the Lakers had never lost that home hadn't lost

604
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: that I mean, had the best player in the series

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: still do. Yeah, and that was a big reason why, like, oh,

606
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: this is this team. You're right. People were like, forget,

607
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: like this team might win the title. It was like,

608
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: we might have a new dynasty on our hands with

609
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: Jokichen Murray and those two, and hey, we still might.

610
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 2: It's one one, but yeah, the heat reminded us Spoe

611
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: and that squad like, are so down, No, we do

612
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: this every series so far, where you count us out

613
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: before it's even started or if we're trailing, and uh,

614
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: and we're gonna put up a fight. And they were Yeah,

615
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: they were awesome.

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Speaker 3: They were awesome, and we knew coming out they would

617
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: be great. Okay, sure, first quarter run, of course that's

618
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen. So they're up ten to two, and then

619
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Speaker 3: the threes rained down in the second quarter, and it

620
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: looks like the Nuggets have control after that crazy, crazy,

621
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Speaker 3: crazy start to the second quarter. Assume beside people in

622
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: press row just doing the math, like how many points

623
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: have they scored here to start the second quarter. But

624
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: then the heat show how tough they are the third

625
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: quarter run where they had thirteen points at the beginning

626
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: of that quarter in the first three minutes, so it's

627
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: got even closer. Okay, so you had a an from

628
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: months I punched from the other punch from back from

629
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Speaker 3: the heat, and then the last punch was really Duncan

630
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Robinson and in that fourth quarter run thirteen points in

631
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: what two plus minutes to start the fourth quarter. So

632
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: this team that people don't think can score. Yeah, put

633
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: Porter and KCP, who I lump him with Porter having

634
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: a bad game because it's weird to see KCP foul

635
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: out and found. Yeah, so that was bad. A lot

636
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: of bad defensive possessions to start the game, just leaving

637
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: Strews open a couple of times, so got him going

638
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: after his horrible game, one fourth threes for him in

639
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: the first quarter, they start to get life the love

640
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 3: move where they just started playing faster even because outlet

641
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: passes were happening, So they were just incredibly smart. I

642
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: just can't wait to see if the Nuggets get there,

643
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: get their guys back playing properly, and I imagine they

644
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: will because Jamal Murray got up before the first game

645
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: in this series and said, the two teams left here

646
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: have the best chemistry, and it feels that way. But

647
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: it feels like the Nuggets lost their Chemis Street just

648
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: to touch because it seemed like they were invincible at

649
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: home and to see their first loss at home. Sitting there,

650
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: everybody was a little befuddled to see them allow these

651
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: open shooters and it was smart again for Swolster to

652
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: get so much action with these guys. Is it anything

653
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: that KCP and Michael Porter Junior missed their postgame media

654
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: obligations after Game two? Probably not, Like I don't think

655
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: this team is falling apart. Apparently the NBA ocated in

656
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: both situations. There was they have to go through some

657
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: sort of protocol. So I don't think Michael Port Junior

658
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: just walked away and said, f this, I'm pissed. I

659
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: think they will be back. But the Heat seventeen for

660
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: thirty five from three in the second game could have

661
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: been even worse. There was open looks that they missed,

662
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: and so they got to feel. They've got to feel incredible,

663
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: like the Heat scoring seventh straight on seven straight possessions

664
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: to start the fourth. I know nobody wants to just

665
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: narrative say the Heat score points, but like the numbers

666
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: say they score a lot of points.

667
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: Especially in the Yeah, sure, did the arena think the

668
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: Nuggets were going up two oh and maybe walking towards

669
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: their first championship when they had that compost crew run

670
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: there in second quarter, I think so, and the place

671
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: like was going nuts and the lead built to fifteen,

672
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: and it felt like they were going to win the game.

673
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: People on playback were saying.

674
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 3: It was a rap, so I guess yeah, And I

675
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: think maybe the players did to some degree. I know

676
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: they kept playing, but yeah, I think everybody thought that, Okay,

677
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: we saw what happened in Game one. It just seemed

678
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: like they had too much talent, so they were able

679
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: to fend off every single run and it seemed like

680
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: they did it again. First quarter run, second quarter boom.

681
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: It's yeah.

682
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I and Jokic was on the bench for a yea

683
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: good portion of that.

684
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: And I did want to want to ask you about

685
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: a Yokic angle that the press has been talking about Jokic.

686
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: Everybody's starting to realize how great he is throughout the

687
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: NBA media world, throughout it to the NBA world that

688
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: wasn't watching Denver Nuggets. So if they were to do

689
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: it in four or five, I still don't think Jokic

690
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 3: because he didn't have to go any through any trials

691
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: and tribulations through the series would get enough of the notoriety.

692
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: I think it had to go a little bit longer.

693
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: That's what we were talking about up there there. There

694
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: would be a quick dismissal, like from casual fans if

695
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: Yokic was able to do it in four or five,

696
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: they would just say, oh, this heat team was an

697
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: eight seed. They just they weren't good enough to get there.

698
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: I think this actually helps if they if the Nuggets

699
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: can pull it out. The the Jogic, the Jokic story,

700
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: the the Jokic you know, the superstar arc. I guess

701
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 3: I think it helps. I think there's just more written

702
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: about it. I think the heater considered a little bit

703
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: more legitimate because they'd do it. I think if there,

704
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: if he was to sweep, even if it was you know,

705
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: four or five, let's say, even if it was easier,

706
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as good for his storyline because.

707
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: You think this is actually better as long as Yokchen

708
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 2: the Nuggets going to win. If it's a longer series,

709
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: a six or seven type series and a fight.

710
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: A battle, yeah, I think it's better for his his arc.

711
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 3: I think it was like we can.

712
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: See why you're saying that because if they had swept

713
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: let's say, or even five, if they had won or

714
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: could win in five, that.

715
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: Could still happen.

716
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Yes, the Nuggets would have what a sixteen and four

717
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: record in the postseason. That's damn good.

718
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: That's great, Like that's really good.

719
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: But you think it gets overlooked maybe because of all

720
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: the seedings, the teams they played and whatnot.

721
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: Are not the finals especially, I mean, we are where

722
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: we are. If you if you you don't think Jokich

723
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: is a superstar player, I mean you just you're just

724
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: never going to think that. But I think, but I think,

725
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: but I think if the Heat were to extend it

726
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 3: yet to six or to seven and the Nuggets were

727
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: to still win, yeah, I think that would help. We've

728
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: seen sweeps in the past where it's it doesn't get

729
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: enough like coverage outside the basketball world. This would help.

730
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: This would help just make him become more of a

731
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: household name if he if they were to get to

732
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: six to six games, because it would people would just

733
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: dismissed the Heat part. Of course, you know he's played

734
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of superstars. He just he just knocked off

735
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 3: Lebron ad and KD. And Booker, but it's kinda happened

736
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: in the finals too. To register more with the casual fan,

737
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: I think it would help, interesting, it would help so well, look,

738
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: it's good for us.

739
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: We want more games, we want more eyeballs, we want

740
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: more storylines, we want competitive games.

741
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: That that yeah, just to watch a series.

742
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean I was pumped on the Heat one game too,

743
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: for sure, because yeah, if the Nuggets had continued that

744
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: second quarter wave and ran away with that game, oh boy,

745
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: we'd had a long week. You know, it would have

746
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: been like can Miami take games three? Make it a

747
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: series and all that, But it would have been a

748
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: lot of like we're just waiting for the inevitable of

749
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: when the Nuggets win the title? How many games will

750
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: it take? Is it a sweep? Will be fine?

751
00:36:59,600 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: Was it?

752
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Now that it's completely different? It is? And I mean if

753
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: you're still doubting the Miami Heat to win a couple

754
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: more games, I don't know what to tell you. Like,

755
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: they they are a great team, they're the best coach team.

756
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna try things, they have vets, even putting love

757
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: in there that helps. Obviously, Lowry I thought had a

758
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: great fourth quarter. He makes his bonehead of mistakes from

759
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: time to time, but he had a great like two

760
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: man game with Bam as I talked about yesterday, So yeah,

761
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: they could. I still think the Nuggets are gonna win

762
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: the series and six. But yeah, man, go ahead bet

763
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: against the Heat like you'll probably lose. You've lost a

764
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: lot if you've done that this postseason.

765
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, gave Vincent said after a Game two, we have

766
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: a lot of experience in these close games when it

767
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: comes to the last few minutes. We're strangely comfortable.

768
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: They've They've won four games this season when it's within

769
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: five points forty four. That is an insane amount of

770
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: games that they've won, not been in one.

771
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can, you know, make a story out of

772
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: a bunch of things that happen in Game one. You

773
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: could say, you know that the Nuggets still smack the

774
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: Heat after not playing the well themselves. Yeah, you can

775
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: point a bunch of stats here and you can say, well,

776
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: the Heat won in Game two without Jimmy Butler really

777
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: feeling all that great. But I do think this is

778
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: a tough team for Jimmy Butler to play against. Number one,

779
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 3: just with all the height, they are outsized at every position. Essentially,

780
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 3: That's why I love goes back into the starting lineup.

781
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: But I just think you just throw all that stupid

782
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: stuff out. I mean, this Heat team is just not

783
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: going away. There's not going away on every possession. And

784
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's the Nuggets just started to

785
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: smell their own stuff a little bit with the way

786
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: they kind of they just didn't pay attention to everything. Defensively, Yeah,

787
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: they were undisciplined.

788
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: I mean alone said that after the game. So what's

789
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: the reason is that? Because of I mean, it's everything, right,

790
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: it's how the Heat played, changing things up and getting

791
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: shots and ball movement and body movement and all that. Yes,

792
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: but it might be a little bit of sort of

793
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: like checking out a little bit especial the Michael Porter

794
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: junior of it all. And I this is my only concern.

795
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: If you're a Nuggets fan, of like, you can't lose

796
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: this guy, like, I mean, Malone can't lose him, But

797
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: you also can't play him if he's if he's like

798
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: off in la la land out there. So there's got

799
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: to be some tough love. And I'm sure Malone's talking

800
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: to him, and I'm sure the staff is talking to him.

801
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: And like, hey man, we need you back, we need

802
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: you blocking those shots, we need you locked in. Yeah,

803
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: you know, don't worry, your shot will come. I mean,

804
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: the guy's never going to become like you know, Jason

805
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: kidd out there in terms of playmaking or yokicch But

806
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: we had some open guys. Man, you kick it to

807
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: the corner, Murray hits a three, you kick it inside.

808
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: We had three Nuggets. There's that one screen grab where

809
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: he's like taking a fade away jumper and there's like

810
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: three Nuggets players looking at him like you could pass

811
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: it to any one of them and you would have

812
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: a layup.

813
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I think that's a genuine worry with

814
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 3: Michael Porter Jr. So you had Nuggets in five.

815
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: Would you be changing that I should, Yeah, but you're not.

816
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, you son of a bitch.

817
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: This is the biggest adversity that whatever you want to

818
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: call it, the biggest test here for the Nuggets, even

819
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: though they were tied at two to two with the

820
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns and they went home and took care of business.

821
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: First time they're tied on the road. So yeah, this

822
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: is a big.

823
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: Test game three Wednesday night. We'll be on playback, but

824
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. You were in

825
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: Denver for a while. We've talked to you a little

826
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: bit here and there, especially on playback, about some of

827
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 2: your highlights and a lot of the stuff you shared

828
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: on social the Mountain biking being a personal fans from mine. Yeah,

829
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: did you have any you know, stories you want to

830
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: share from your time in Denver?

831
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Oh? I got some points here, I just want. Yeah.

832
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: All the fans, including Steve who I went biking with,

833
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: that were out there that came to say what's up?

834
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: Just great stuff. Had one person his name was Julian.

835
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: While Jerome and I were eating at this market, comes

836
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: by and says, I'm literally listening to you guys right now.

837
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: And I saw you guys, so I had to come

838
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: talk to you. That was pretty cool. At the arena,

839
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: I saw a fan named Nick who was very excited,

840
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: although he spelled Drum's last name wrong in his tweet.

841
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: So how big of a fan is he? No, I

842
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: don't kidding.

843
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: Uh, you call him white dragon roll.

844
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: His last name was spelled wrong, but anyway, some people

845
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: just don't spell that well. And uh, then we saw

846
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 3: a fan right by the arena who saw Drum's credential

847
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 3: that said the Athletic. He goes, oh, I read Fred

848
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: Katz nixed beat writer at the Athletic. He's great. And

849
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 3: then he looked at me and said, uh, you're on TV.

850
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, yeah, you're a huge Yeah you know

851
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: you were on TV. Yeah, he kind of he knew

852
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: that we were on TV past tense, so then he

853
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: does think you were or something like that. Nah, who do.

854
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: You most look like at the Athletic?

855
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: At the Athletic? So anyways, yeah, it was fun. Shout

856
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: out to the fans there. And I will say, just

857
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: as from like a stand fan standpoint, is this a

858
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: basketball city. I think it's fair to say they have

859
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: a hardcore fan base, but it's not the biggest sport.

860
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: But they're a sports city.

861
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: There's sports city. They're an outdoorsy city. Like if you remember,

862
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 3: former Sonics head coach George Carl would always say about

863
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 3: the Sonics fan base that this team are these people

864
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: like to be outdoors. They're never going to come into

865
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: an arena and cheer for our team. Denver is an

866
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 3: outdoorsy city.

867
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Build a dome retractable, do you outdoors? Nice nights in Denver,

868
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: open it up.

869
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Make the seats out of grass, so it's like you're

870
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: sitting on Yeah, like those flip flops now that are

871
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: grass on the bottom. It's like you're walking on grass. Wow,

872
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: that's exciting. It's a nice feeling.

873
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: But anyway, the people you talked to outside there, there's

874
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: a hardcore fans, but but it's it's a Broncos town first,

875
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: it's a Avalanche, a Colorado Avalanche city.

876
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: Second.

877
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: No, it is a part of that because they've been successful.

878
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely want some cups. Yeah, the first year that they

879
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: moved multiple three three first years after they moved from Quebec,

880
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: they won the first year in nineteen ninety five, ninety

881
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: six or whatever it was, and then they won again

882
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: and then they won last year. So speaking to the

883
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: d NVR guys who have a podcast, who have a

884
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: show there, they one of them, Brendan said to me

885
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: that they've had a generation of fans grow up, the

886
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: Avalanche fans as hockey fans because they got there and

887
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: one while the Nuggets it ain't it ain't even been

888
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: close first, so but they did. They definitely think the

889
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: arena was absolutely rocking. I like Jamal Murray even said,

890
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, I'm starting to see Jamal Murray jerseys out

891
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: there as the series started up, because I think I

892
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: think this town is definitely jumping on the support, but

893
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: they're not necessarily they're a hardcore. There's a hardcore fan

894
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: base and that place was rocking. It was really really

895
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: lost it. Yeah it was fun, but yeah, there they

896
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: need to win. You know, I think it's, uh, it's

897
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: a basketball town, but it's being led by by other teams.

898
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: Is the arena like downtown type arena.

899
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, to go out, Yeah, absolutely, downtown you got sot

900
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: as bars and everything around. Yes, Yes, it's fun. Yeah,

901
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: I guess some of the other points there, like from

902
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: a fan standpoint, surprising to me, the Heat fans travel.

903
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: They were there.

904
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: There was some yeah, little pockets you could see.

905
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was enough. Even they stayed around after the

906
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: game and there was some competing chants, you know, Heat

907
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: and five, Heat and five and then the Nuggets fans

908
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: that hung out, you know, it would chant back after

909
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: after the game. Not a lot of people, but the

910
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: fact that there's pockets of Heat Heat fans in there. Yeah,

911
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: you saw it on the broadcast and there was they

912
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: were hanging around afterwards, when Kyle Lowry was going up

913
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: to the ESPN set. I guess it was. It was

914
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: hilariou seeing Kyle Lowry and a towel. He came out

915
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: of the locker room, had something on top, whatever it

916
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: was on top, but this big like towel thing on

917
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: the bottom. It's one of those like elastic things that

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: don't that won't fall like it's not like a regular towel.

919
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: But it was just weird seeing Kyle Lowry walking in

920
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: the gym with a towel and flip flops and you

921
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: see his towlery as you. Yeah, that's what I was.

922
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: I was trying to find one sound. Yeah I found it.

923
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 3: It was decent, but yeah, just some quick points. Jokis

924
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: doesn't like doing media. I think that being there and

925
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: we all sort of knew that, but it becomes more

926
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: and more apparent when he's congratulating the staffer for ending

927
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: the press conference early. It's like, oh, good job man,

928
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: good job.

929
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

930
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: He just he just doesn't just doesn't like it. He

931
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: just doesn't. He doesn't like all the He also just

932
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: doesn't like the types of questions. I imagine he was

933
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: basically saying between Game one and Game two. I just

934
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: can't wait to start playing basketball because all this yeah, yeah,

935
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: and it's not good not good noise.

936
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: So and this is honestly to circle back to something

937
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: he said earlier, like this is why he'll never be

938
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: He's never going to be the face of the league

939
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: like that that mega mega superstar. This is a part

940
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: of the game. I mean, that's like very similar to Duncan.

941
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: Not that he won't be considered one of the greates

942
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: of all time, just like Tim Duncan. But there are

943
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: little there are levels to this, and I think the

944
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: final level is that you want to have to do

945
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: all that and be in every commercial and do every

946
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: presser and make waves with headline.

947
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, right, yeah, not every presser, but you have

948
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 3: to do more of the media you do. I agree.

949
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: It's not that he English isn't his first language. I

950
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: don't buy that at all. Yes, that Kumpo could be

951
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: the face of the league if he continues to win.

952
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: But we're sort of at this place here where there's

953
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: an opportunity for someone to yes slide in there. Lebron obviously, yeah,

954
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: and Curry at this point, I mean, I would say

955
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: Curry's would still be the face of the league if

956
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: if I'm when Lebron retires, but there's yeah, there's a

957
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: slot here, but Yoki doesn't seem to want it like

958
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: Curry does media. He plays game. That's all you have

959
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: to do is play the game if you want it,

960
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: But he doesn't want it, like Tim Duncant. If he

961
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: continues to win, is he going to be forced as

962
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: the face of the league, like, well, we have no choice? Well, well,

963
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: fans have no choice. Will he be the face of

964
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: the league if the Nuggets win.

965
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: And we didn't really ever make him though, Yeah, he'd have.

966
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: To win more. I'd say, like in a shorter period

967
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: of time here dynasty. Yeah, but anyway, it's an interesting conversation.

968
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: But he hates it.

969
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: But he hates it, but he's like he's extremely funny,

970
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: like like Duncan. Yeah, you know, he's got the dry

971
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: sense of humor. And speaking of humor, Ken johng Oh,

972
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: as you guys talk about it a lot, No, I didn't.

973
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: I got really close, not to talking to him, but

974
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: like really close to him. I think we have that

975
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: that clip, j D. Because I was just standing there

976
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: watching that very close, watching him do selfies with everybody

977
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: and It's like, if you're watching now, he is, he's

978
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: just acting a fool. I just didn't know what he's doing.

979
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: He's just opening his mouth. He's being really nice. He's like,

980
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. I will do anything you want.

981
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: I'll do anything you want. What do you want me

982
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 3: to do in your selfie? So he's so.

983
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: He wasn't there for game two though?

984
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: What up with that? Right?

985
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: We talked about it here. How couldn't the Nuggets have

986
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: him there? You would in game one? Don't don't mess

987
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: with anything. Bring him back.

988
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: He had a surgery he had to attend. He's not

989
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: a surgeon, but he is a he's an m D. Anyway.

990
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not. Maybe he is a surgeon. I don't

991
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: know what type of doctor is. I don't know. It'll

992
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 3: be still practicing, probably not. Ken Jake, Kenjock, just just

993
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: being there for hours after the game, at least an hour. Really,

994
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. I'm guessing he was chatting with everybody. That's

995
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: why I was surprised he didn't.

996
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: Come back for game two because he was loving it.

997
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seemed like it.

998
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 5: He paid for his own ticket. He's gonna stay. I'm

999
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: staying for an hour after. I'm getting there an hour early.

1000
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 5: I'm staying, how much have you spent on that?

1001
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: Like for courts that seats? Was he sitting courtside of the.

1002
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 3: He just couldn't afford a second.

1003
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: It's possible that, but the Nuggets should have ponied up

1004
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: and given them.

1005
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah, So the reports were that he bought

1006
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 3: a ticket.

1007
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: That's what the reports were. Yeah, yeah, and from ticket Master.

1008
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: We've been talking about him and we haven't said, uh,

1009
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: the Kenver Nuggets for Ken John. So there you go

1010
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: to that one person on Twitter. It was up so

1011
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: we didn't say that fair enough. I can't the Kenver

1012
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: report anything else. It's a good little breakdown.

1013
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: Last thing, the big hats, the oversized hat.

1014
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the nuggin and bosses.

1015
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: They are light and comfortable.

1016
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: I I love this. This happened during Game one on

1017
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: playback task jumping on got a guy to give him

1018
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: his big hat, asked him if he could put it

1019
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: on obviously did I just love this photo so much

1020
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: because there's a photo of me just wearing a normal

1021
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: hat that I look exactly like this, and you look

1022
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 2: like a small child when you throw that on. It's

1023
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: but you liked it.

1024
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's hard to get that perspective of how

1025
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: big the hat is. I guess without That's why I

1026
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 3: tried to film the person sitting beside him the hat

1027
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 3: wear with a regular hat wear, because well.

1028
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: It helps when you put it on.

1029
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it helps when you put it on and

1030
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: you do different angles and but it's yeah, it's ridiculously wide.

1031
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: Was it light? Very light? I don't know how they

1032
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: did it.

1033
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: Did you buy anything? It? Never shop?

1034
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: There was a there was a lineup, so I wasn't

1035
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: gonna wait. Although a man Jerome jumped in there, like

1036
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: during gameplay and he said, I need to buy something.

1037
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: He loves to buy something from a from a from

1038
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: a game.

1039
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: He does. He does. When we were when we were

1040
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: walking in uh, he saw the lineup. He's like like,

1041
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: I thought it was line up for concession or something.

1042
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: But he's like, yeah, I might jump in on this,

1043
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: Like what what do you mean You're gonna jump in

1044
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: a lineup? We got to do stuff. But but he's like, oh,

1045
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: now I'll go later when there's less of a lineup,

1046
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: And yeah he did. He took advantage of this situation.

1047
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: He got he got the old the old Yeah, that

1048
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: old logo with the bearded the gold digger, yeah.

1049
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Right, with the axe and stuff like that. Yes, yes,

1050
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: that's the ABA.

1051
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, long sleeved tea with that huge logo

1052
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: on it. Nice nice purchase. And he saw that the

1053
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: large hats were in there. I think, oh really, I'm

1054
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: pretty sure he said that a hundred bucks.

1055
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: One hundred bucks for the nogging bus. Holy moly, that's

1056
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: that's steep.

1057
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: Yep, there's there's a lot of hats out there. And

1058
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: as I told you, I told you on playback, they

1059
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: had senior citizens a bunch a bunch of ladies, yeah,

1060
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 3: as a dance pack, as a dance pack, all wearing them,

1061
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: hipped them at at some point or rumor has it

1062
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: that they had to purchase them. They each had to

1063
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: shout a hundred.

1064
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: Oh maybe the senior's discount. It was like sixty bucks

1065
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: or them.

1066
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: That was That was That was weird.

1067
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: So what was Weird's like an old person in noggin bots. Yeah, yeah,

1068
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: I did want to know just quickly about the mountain biking.

1069
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh right, because you're not you're not a mountain biker. No,

1070
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: have you even ever even done it?

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Speaker 3: No? I hadn't riding ridden a bike, and like an

1072
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 3: adult bike in a long time.

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00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: To put training wheels on your mountain bike.

1074
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Just just getting the hang of switching gears, dropping your seat,

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00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 3: bikes of a vault. It was. That was cool. Oh

1076
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: so my ass is still sore, literally bruises, deep, deep

1077
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: bruises in the crevices of my my But it hurt.

1078
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: It hurts. I was. I wasn't good going down because

1079
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: that's when you're supposed to get off the bike, get

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00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: off the seat and ride it a little bit, hunch

1081
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: dropped the suspension. Yeah, I just slowed down, like my

1082
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: legs are all cut up because I was getting off

1083
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: take putting my foot. The pedals kept cutting me because

1084
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: I just wasn't ready to ride the rocks. I mean,

1085
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: it's rocks, They're all rocks. The bike was incredible, but

1086
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: I didn't have any incredible Yeah, Steve was great, but

1087
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: I didn't have wide grip handles. I couldn't get the good,

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00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: the great handling like you just I couldn't feel the

1089
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: handling with the with the really wide grip handles. But

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: it was, it was awesome.

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00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: It so if you did mountain biking in Denver, Trey.

1092
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: We got to get him on a sea do I

1093
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: would say? Yeah, right, would that be the equivalent in

1094
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: my in Miami gas or paddle boarding? Yeah, I need

1095
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 2: a little more speed, I know.

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: But task out to crank is himself up a mountain.

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00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true.

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00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but he could Tray could get hurt. Yeah, yeah,

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00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: we want the possibility of him getting a little hurt.

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00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean him on a speedo out there for sure.

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00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, all right, yes, because you have to actually,

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00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 5: if you're doing like waves, you gotta stand up on

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: that thing too, so you could bruise your ass pretty.

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00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: Badly, especially the speed.

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00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 5: That's what we're going for.

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00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: Yes, So when Tray comes back, we will be checking

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00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: out and comparing bruised asses from these guys. Game three

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00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: playback Wednesday night, eight thirty pm Eastern. Don't you worry,

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00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: we'll be here tomorrow from the Classic Factory. But this

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00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: is tomorrow night, Game three. Join us live at eight

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00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: thirty pm Eastern. Thanks to everybody who's been swinging by

1112
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: doing some fun numbers for these games games one and two,

1113
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: so let's keep it going. The good times for Game

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: three and speaking to playback This just was released yesterday.

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00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: It's on the iOS app Store, the playback app Baby.

1116
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: I guess there was a sort of a beta version

1117
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: that only some people had. It's now accessible to all.

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00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: We are featured there in the app store. I'm dropping

1119
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: a fire take Trey Kirby just saying something brutal. People

1120
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: are putting the ice cold snowflake up on them. But yeah,

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00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: go check that out. Playback is now available in the

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00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: iOS app Store.

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Speaker 3: How they boosted our numbers there? It shows you how

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00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: many people are watching six hundred and thirty.

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if that, Oh, well we did, yeah

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00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: the Raptors Bulls game.

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00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it was around that. It was around that. I

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00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: actually used it for Games one. In games too, I

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00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 3: used the app I wanted to see. I heard this

1130
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: rumor forever the beta version was out. I just I

1131
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: just randomly checked before Game one and it was there

1132
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: for me. I didn't use the beta app, so I

1133
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 3: was using it the entire time. It was great. It

1134
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 3: worked extremely well. You guys could hear me the entire time.

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00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how well it worked. I was like,

1136
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: you jumped on was like, oh, this is gonna be

1137
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: brutally i'd be able to hear us. It's gonna be

1138
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: choppy blah blah blah.

1139
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, even with stadium conversations stadium Wi Fi Ballerina, we

1140
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: can make that a little better. There was a little

1141
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: little haitchy, but it was a blast secondary screen experience.

1142
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: Join us was It was really fun.

1143
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Join us guys, and go get that app obviously in

1144
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: the iOS app store. Got to take one more break

1145
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: when we come back test he's got tweeted the night.

1146
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, all right, let's start wrapping up this

1147
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: pod with some tweet of.

1148
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: The fun tweet out the night? Wow, are you ready

1149
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: to name some guys? Why I like this tweet? It

1150
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: just felt like the NBA offseason is here, you know, yeah,

1151
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: it felt like it was already here, you know, June July.

1152
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: People just start tweeting stuff when there's no NBA basketball.

1153
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: We just there's just a lot of conversations about NBA

1154
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: adjacent type stuff like this one. Name a random twenty

1155
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: point per game score in the league that nobody talks

1156
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: about anymore. The thread was great, Oh, I bet just

1157
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: name some guys. But you have to get to twenty points, right,

1158
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: not nineteen point nine?

1159
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 2: Ooh, man, I have to check my one answer.

1160
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: I wanted to say, then, okay, I'll throw throw some

1161
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: go have a check.

1162
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, did Mike James ever do it?

1163
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? See yeah, Mike James with the Torontops.

1164
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know if he got to twenty.

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00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 3: Or I assumed that was his only year.

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00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: Twenty point three and it was in seventy nine games

1167
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: and five oh six when we were there.

1168
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had watching, he had the ball in his

1169
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: hands a lot, yes, Mikey. Some great ones thrown out there.

1170
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: Kevin Martin was named a lot that's good. One great

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: one was a bucket. Ricky Davis he did it way back,

1172
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: Tyreek Evans in his first season. The only time he

1173
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: did it was his first season. He was in the

1174
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. Uh some way back playbacks now

1175
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: Ron Harper, Eddie Jones, Latrell Spree, Well.

1176
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: Latrell Spree.

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Speaker 3: While he was all NBA.

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably average like twenty five, didn't he let me check?

1179
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: Keep going?

1180
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: Big Al Al Jefferson, he was.

1181
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: An al, big Al. He made all NBA.

1182
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: Mighty Mouse, Mighty Mouse, Damon Stodemeyer.

1183
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my favors. It's just spree Well averaged

1184
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: twenty four points per game in the ninety six ninety

1185
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: seven with the Warriors.

1186
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that O four team that he was a

1187
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: part of with KG and Sam Cassel and then went

1188
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: to the conference finals, uh and lost to the Lakers.

1189
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 3: Could have been a damn good team. Yeah, it's it's

1190
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: more fun to talk about the guys that just just

1191
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: squeak got to twenty. Like somebody wrote, Josh Howard only

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00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 3: nineteen point nine? Not allowed? Not allowed in this stupid

1193
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Twitter conversation. Hold on a second. I just saw this

1194
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: name and I got a double check because this one

1195
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: is what did did Ronald Flip Murray get to twenty?

1196
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, stretch?

1197
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: He had a stretch, like.

1198
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: A three week stretch where he won or lost people

1199
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: fantasy basketball leagues. That's what happened with Flip Murray that

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: I was playing in those days.

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00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: I do like the Larry Hughes inclusion. That's a good one.

1202
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: Larry Hughes got to twenty per game?

1203
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: You did it one year? Wow.

1204
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: I would never have guessed that.

1205
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: Just before he went to go play with Lebron's a

1206
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: good one. Played against Lebron with the Wizards. Yeah, maybe

1207
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: maybe they were a bullet then four oh five. But yeah,

1208
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: that was that was great, great stuff. Just lots lots

1209
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 3: of fun going back. That's about it.

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: I like you just say someone that did twenty points

1211
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: per game once. Yeah, that's a key part, like the

1212
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: guys were naming for the most part. Well, no, Martin

1213
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: probably had way.

1214
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: More than Martin did. Yeah, Dana Barrows another great one.

1215
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.

1216
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: Ninety is All Star year, twenty points six points per

1217
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: game his next highest can you guess this? This is this?

1218
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: This is a great one because it's so rare his

1219
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 3: next highest points per game total besides his twenty point

1220
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 3: six year where he made the All Star Game. This

1221
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: is crazy. So it's like super low. Yeah, twelve yeah,

1222
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 3: close thirteen points. Wow, that's a pretty big difference for

1223
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: a guy who played a decent amount. So yeah, that's it.

1224
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: Ben Gordon, of course, Benny's great.

1225
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: Ry mcghetty do do this tweet in thirty years from now,

1226
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be picking a lot of guys from

1227
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: this season.

1228
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: Probably that's why you had to do it. Now.

1229
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: Did forty three guys forty three guys average over two

1230
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: twenty points per game? It's insane? Feels insane, but twenty

1231
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: is not a lot anymore. But Terry Roziero, Terry Roziero

1232
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: will be a good one in the future. Uh boy,

1233
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: Bogdanovich sure might be a weird one. A lot of

1234
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: these other names, they'll do it a couple of times,

1235
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: or have already done a couple of times. Maybe Jordan

1236
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: Clarkson twenty point eight points per game. Simon's will go

1237
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: on to average twenty plus for probably ten straight years now. Yeah, yep.

1238
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: David Lee he did twice.

1239
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: Actually, David Lee. Wow, yeah, he was maybe one time

1240
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: All Star two times. There you go. Fun tweet name

1241
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: some guys, Guys that's scored for at least one season

1242
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: more than you would have thought. At least some great

1243
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: names out there. Fun Tweeting the Night Fun podcast hopefully

1244
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,840
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1245
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1247
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1248
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,040
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1249
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,520
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1250
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1253
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Speaker 2: little Game three finals preview talk. Whatever else is happening

1254
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: in the NBA world.

1255
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Yes, probably more and more basketball.

1256
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe. Well look, hey, let's invite the questions right

1257
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1258
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,400
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1259
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1261
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1262
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: about the show, whatever sentiment. But we'll be here at

1263
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: tennam Eastern until then. Clever ros, you heard it here first.

1264
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

1265
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember, oh, this last name

1266
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to say as a twenty point per game score,

1267
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: it's a little painful for Raptors fans. Andrea Bargniano.

1268
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: He was a bucket. He was people forget about Andrea Barniani.

1269
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 2: It's ahead of his time. Embrace thetat people