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Speaker 1: we're going to have an hour and a half with

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Speaker 1: John Middelcoff tonight, but I was going to just talk

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles thrashing the Rams tonight in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: It feels inevitable. Philadelphia and Detroit in the NFC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Those are stack rosters. The Rams actually have a great coach,

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Speaker 1: excellent quarterback, nice weapons, and a really strong defensive front.

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Speaker 1: And it was completely worked tonight. Almost five hundred yards

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles, two hundred and fifty five yards for

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. The Eagles offensive line and the Lions offensive

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Speaker 1: line are so much better than the rest of the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: I four of the five Eagle o linemen I think

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Speaker 1: could get honors, just dominating performance. And again the Rams

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Speaker 1: have some talented young guys up front, you know, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of this Howie Roseman, the GM this league

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Speaker 1: is front offices are so important. Teams like Cincinnati just

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Speaker 1: don't make deals, and so it's Joe Burrow a couple

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Speaker 1: of your receivers and they're just a limited roster. Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: is constantly trade deadline, usually not necessarily this year, but

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Speaker 1: big players at the trade deadline, off season, free agency,

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Speaker 1: I mean, even without Devonte Smith at wide receiver because

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Speaker 1: In every unit. The Eagles have a great, great player.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I talked about this before the season.

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Speaker 1: know it's not perfectly analogous, but the Chiefs, you know,

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants was allowed to go to their

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Speaker 1: primary rival. Saquon Barkley. Think about this, has twelve touchdowns

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Speaker 1: this year, the Giants have sixteen, last in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Saquon has ten plays this year of thirty plus yards.

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Speaker 1: That's the same as the entire New York Giants offense.

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Speaker 1: Giants let him walk. I think there's an argument MVP

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is he is separated from the

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is on pace to set the NFL rushing

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Speaker 1: he's having like a incredible year. Yeah, the most incredible

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Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna we're gonna throw in this

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the other player the Giants let

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Speaker 1: to say this. His ability to start and stop has improved.

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Speaker 1: pod with John Middlecoff, former NFL scout. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: of virtually everything except the Broncos game. What a crazy

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Speaker 1: with Green Bay thirty eight, San Francisco ten.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you knew it was troubles Out brought

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Speaker 1: If you look at the Detroits, the Green Bays, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: is like an old fighter, John, They're like an old boxer.

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Speaker 1: Last year, you know they were hanging on, had one

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Speaker 3: And that's been my stance all along, is why can't

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Speaker 1: I think if you could get a second round or No,

429
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Speaker 1: he's a free agent, so you get no picks.

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Speaker 3: I can you franchise them and trade him?

431
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's quarterback class sucks in college. No,

432
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Speaker 1: I mean even Shaduur's more of a B plus a

433
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Speaker 1: minus prospect than an A plus Jalen Milrow people like,

434
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Speaker 1: but he's he's not fluid. He's gonna take He's better

435
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Speaker 1: than Anthony Richards and out of college, but he's gonna

436
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Speaker 1: take a lot of work and a lot of patience.

437
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Speaker 1: It's really interesting. I mean, let's go to chicagould.

438
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Speaker 3: You give him like a Cousins type deal, like a

439
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Speaker 3: couple of years hundred million, three years, one hundred million dollars,

440
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: and then just figured it out as you go, and

441
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 3: if he keeps playing well, you can always trade him

442
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: if you like JJ. I think I just think the

443
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: risk saying with with JJ McCarthy injured was a project

444
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Speaker 3: to begin with. I think there was a story within

445
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks he needed another surgery because

446
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Speaker 3: of the swelling. I mean, not that that's the end.

447
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Speaker 3: I mean he's still got a long time till twenty

448
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Speaker 3: twenty five season. But I just like this would be

449
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Speaker 3: serious conversations, which I they're one hundred percent having. Doesn't

450
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Speaker 3: mean they're going to do it. But it's a fluid situation.

451
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Speaker 1: So in a losing effort today, I think Chicago is

452
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Speaker 1: the most fascinating four and seven team in the league.

453
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams made a throw right before the field goal

454
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Speaker 1: descended to overtime. I thought it was the best throw

455
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Speaker 1: I saw today. I mean it was twenty eight yards

456
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Speaker 1: in the air, I mean four Vikings right over and

457
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: they showed the video from behind Caleb. They had four

458
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Speaker 1: hundred yards offense. He had thirty two completions. The box

459
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: score was even. They were down big in the fourth quarter,

460
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Speaker 1: so Caleb is a pretty fearless kid. They were down

461
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Speaker 1: to a good team twenty four to ten. They came

462
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Speaker 1: roaring back. He had a really bad sack in overtime

463
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Speaker 1: that killed their field position. Vikings get the ball. Sam

464
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Speaker 1: Darnold outplays him in overtime. But for I said before

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Speaker 1: the season, I said, the Bears are gonna win seventh.

466
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Speaker 1: They're gonna finish in fourth place. But you're gonna feel

467
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: good about it. You're gonna be like, yeah, we got

468
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Speaker 1: the guy watching that game today and that fourth quarter.

469
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Speaker 1: I mean Greg Cosel told me this week he's like

470
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Speaker 1: that kid. That kid is unbelievable. Like, nothing against Jayden Daniels,

471
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Speaker 1: but he's stronger than Jayden Daniels. Nothing against bow Knicks,

472
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Speaker 1: but he's got a bigger arm than bow Knicks. I

473
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Speaker 1: thought Caleb today had some moments that were just wow.

474
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Speaker 1: That's my take when I watched them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he made a couple throws over the player the

476
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Speaker 3: past year. Throwing is the live version didn't do it

477
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: justice when they showed the replay and he layered that thing.

478
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: But he's Brett Farv strike. How about the two point

479
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: conversion when he hit DJ Moore in the back of

480
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Speaker 3: the end zone and there were a couple other over

481
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: the middle of the field strikes to like Keenan Allen

482
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Speaker 3: where you're like, he was just letting this thing rip.

483
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: And then the usc the reason that everyone was so

484
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: high on him, the scramble threw it down the sideline

485
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: to DJ More might be the best play he's ever

486
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Speaker 3: made of his career. Yeah. He The one thing that

487
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: jumps out these last two weeks is there's more of

488
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: a looseness that feels more collegiate to him. Again, yes,

489
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Speaker 3: that he was really tight. Toward the end of the

490
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Speaker 3: Waldron thing, they fire him, and you just see a

491
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Speaker 3: much looser player. And I, you know, you're scrolling around

492
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Speaker 3: the four boxes listening to different audio. And when I

493
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Speaker 3: clicked over at one point in time during the game,

494
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Speaker 3: they said he had mentioned like I just feel like

495
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: I got my confidence back a little bit, and he's

496
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Speaker 3: playing that way. I think the hard part if you're

497
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Speaker 3: a Pars fan is like, our team actually probably wasn't

498
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Speaker 3: that far away this year. What let us down? It was, well,

499
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: we've been pretty They muffed a punt today and they

500
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: had a field goal blocked. Again. They had back to

501
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: back field goal blocks.

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Speaker 1: If you count last week they led to two Vikings scores.

503
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Speaker 1: So they're five and eighteen in one possession games under

504
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Speaker 1: eber Flus, and they're a terrible road team, meaning close games.

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Speaker 3: He's never uber Flues has never won a road game

506
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Speaker 3: on a Sunday colin the NFL plays on Sundays.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at look how much better the offense got

508
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Speaker 1: when Waldron left. Okay, so we saw leak. I mean,

509
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Speaker 1: look at bone next with Sean Payton. Can you imagine

510
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Speaker 1: if they get this guy a sharp, offensive coach.

511
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Speaker 3: But you know the hard part though, is Colin And

512
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this guy. I just

513
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: know him from the outside, and I don't think that

514
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Speaker 3: highly of him. Is partly because you have a business

515
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Speaker 3: guy and Kevin Warren. There was a segment of The

516
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Speaker 3: Hard Knocks where Ryan Poles was extending DJ Moore to

517
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Speaker 3: one of the biggest contracts in the history of the Bears,

518
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Speaker 3: and in Hard Knocks he's reading out some of the

519
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Speaker 3: details of the contract not to the owners, but to

520
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Speaker 3: Kevin Warren, and I went, that's a problem because and

521
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: listen to everyone around Chicago knows Kevin Warren and it's

522
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 3: been well reported. Poles and ebra Flu's answer to him,

523
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: not the owner. So you have like this intermediary middle

524
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: management who's really powerful in the NFL that doesn't work.

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: Can you imagine listen, I when I was with the Eagles,

526
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: Don Smelenski like, there are a lot of really good

527
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: presidents that dominate the business side, and they're they're tight

528
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: with their GM and their and their coach. They don't

529
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: dictate the terms of that stuff. On big you go

530
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Speaker 3: to the owner and even some of the owners once

531
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Speaker 3: they get comfortable with you, like unless it's a crazy

532
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: just you do it like I'm good with it, right,

533
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: I trust you. So you have this president who is

534
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: gonna be in charge of the hiring of the coach

535
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Speaker 3: with poles that that that's where it gets weird, Colin,

536
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people in Chicago, because

537
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: there's no disputing you watch this team. If Caleb's gonna

538
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: play like the last couple of weeks, it's they're gonna

539
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Speaker 3: be a talented football teaman.

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Speaker 1: Allen today was great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I I just wonder from a coaching stand point,

542
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Speaker 3: guys with options like clearly like Woody Johnson, no thanks, wait,

543
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: I got I have to deal not with the owner

544
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: and not with my GM, but the president of the team.

545
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Speaker 3: Well that's that's a turnof Colin in the business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the and and that man you're speaking of

547
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: was known. I know somebody. I know two people that

548
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: have dealt with him before. Kind of a ladder.

549
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Speaker 3: He's a business guy.

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a little bit of a ladder climber,

551
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Speaker 1: light on the details sometimes nice enough.

552
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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I My take is, and I feel bad for Caleb Williams.

554
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: It's like I I would feel bad for Aaron Rodgers

555
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: if he wasn't Aaron Rodgers. But some of these organizations

556
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: are just a circus. I mean, the Jets are poorly

557
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: run franchise. The Bears are a poorly run franchise. And

558
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Speaker 1: I just I mean Bill Pollion ran their last coaching search.

559
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: That's why they ended up with Matt Eberfluss. The owners

560
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: called Bill Pollion and said, find us a coach, so

561
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Speaker 1: you know, and he's gonna go, you know, to his allies,

562
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: and I I mean, just watch Bweck's play and tell

563
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Speaker 1: me you don't think Sean Payton and coaching matters.

564
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Speaker 3: It's I mean, but that's a good example of there's

565
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: a guy making eighteen million dollars. He's the boss. Now

566
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: he did it's not his money. If he has a question,

567
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: he goes to the Walton family or the Penners or

568
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: you know, whoever is in charge of the money rights.

569
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Speaker 3: It's really run a lot like a college team would

570
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: be run like Kirby Smart nick sate. They're the boss

571
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: of the operation. It can get weird in the NFL

572
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: because it becomes so corporate, these billion dollar operations. A

573
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: lot of people like their hand in the cookie jar.

574
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Speaker 3: You see these names that are at these meetings with

575
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Speaker 3: Woody Johnson, You're like, who are these other three guys? Well,

576
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: they're like his confidants, right, that you have to deal

577
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: with when you want things done. You know, forever Belichick

578
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: wants somethm done, he you want to write to Robert, right,

579
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Speaker 3: this is what we're doing. It's me and you and Robert.

580
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: Then his son starts getting more involved than it gets

581
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Speaker 3: we And I think one reason I see the Chiefs

582
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: are so well run is because it's just Brett and

583
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Speaker 3: Andy deal with Clark, and I know the forty nine

584
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: ers too, Like it's a very streamline. It's just Kyle

585
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: john Jed York. There's not a lot of other cooks

586
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: in the kitchen. That's what makes me nervous with Chicago

587
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: because you'd be like, they should be all over Rabel. Well,

588
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: Rabel just had a weird experience. Does he want to

589
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: deal with this now? And he's a big ten guy,

590
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: and Kevin Warren not highly thought of with some of

591
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Speaker 3: the football guys. I just that that makes me nervous. Colin.

592
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Speaker 3: I could see it coming from a mile away, these

593
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Speaker 3: stories in January of like, yeah, this is just a

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: Cowboys beat Washington thirty four to twenty six complete batshit

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Speaker 1: crazy in the fourth quarter. Just a wild game. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you either watched it, folks or not.

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Speaker 3: You know, an a forty points score in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It was insane. So Cliff Kingsbury always had a reputation

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels. You know, I was looking at this with

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Speaker 1: five minutes left, Jayden Daniels had less than one hundred

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Speaker 1: yards passing and Washington had nine points against the thirty

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Speaker 1: first scoring defense. So it was a lot of points late.

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Speaker 1: But Jaden Daniels. Bow Knicks has completely surpassed Jaden Daniels

625
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Speaker 1: for offensive Rookie of the Year. Like it's not club.

626
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the last six games, it's not close.

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: Bonnicks looks confident, accurate, poised, athletic. Jaden's lost his fastball.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, I talked to Steve kaim I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, can you explain the Cliff Kingsbury college and

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Speaker 1: professionals swoon in the second half of the season. And

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Speaker 1: Steve just said, he's a very smart, creative guy who

632
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Speaker 1: works in the summer to come in with new stuff,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the league catches up with him that he

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Speaker 1: doesn't pivot to the second pitch after he's brought in

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Speaker 1: new stuff. But Steve didn't really have an answer. But

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Speaker 1: you know, he said, hard working, clever, smart. He does

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Speaker 1: come in every year with new stuff. But I was

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Speaker 1: sitting there watching that thing today, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: Washington almost pulled it off. But once again Washington missed Pats.

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Speaker 1: They missed a field goal. Special teams in this league

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Speaker 1: are I don't remember a year that special teams decided

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Speaker 1: more football games. They're just terrible. But I looked at

643
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Speaker 1: this and I thought to myself today, if you could

644
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Speaker 1: redraft all the quarterbacks, and you have to consider Sean

645
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Speaker 1: Payton and the bow next deal, if you could redraft

646
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, would you draft them differently? Forget the teams,

647
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Speaker 1: would you redraft them differently?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Caleb's at least quieted, and I listen,

649
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: I was starting to wonder, what the hell are we watching?

650
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: These last two weeks make you feel a lot better.

651
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: I mean, today he made throws where you're like, that's

652
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Speaker 3: what number one overall pick looks like. No disputing, Here's

653
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: where I will defend Jayden Daniels because today he was

654
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: run around pretty well. I came into this season, I

655
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: know you picked him to make the playoffs. I thought

656
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: this was more like a six or seven win team

657
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: that was going to be an impressive operation. But wins

658
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: loss were not going to be what it looked like

659
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Speaker 3: they were going to be three weeks ago. I don't

660
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Speaker 3: think they're that talented Colin. I honestly, I don't think

661
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 3: they're teams that good. Yeah, Terry mclaurin's good. Their running

662
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: backs getting banged up. Brian Robinson's a good player, but

663
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Speaker 3: he was in and out. So if they're not running

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Speaker 3: the ball, well, and here's the one thing. And I

665
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: always thought this about Chip Kelly, and you know, Mike

666
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: Leach never came to the NFL. But Cliff's a good example.

667
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Speaker 3: These spread offenses right early on in the season, rapid

668
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: fire defenses aren't as dialed. Take advantage of it. As

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Speaker 3: the season goes on, weather changes a little bit, it

670
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: gets a lot more physical. Well what Dallas happened today.

671
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Parsons is back now, like their defense is a little

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Speaker 3: bit more Yeah, I would say legitimate with him in

673
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: the game, and they were just ready for a brawl,

674
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Speaker 3: like they got pride. I mean, they got a lot of.

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Speaker 1: High paid, accurate moves the ball for sure, and it.

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Speaker 3: Was a physical game. Yeah. I think sometimes the more

677
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Speaker 3: physical you are, with more of the quote unquote spread offenses,

678
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Speaker 3: you can shove them around a little bit. And I

679
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: think that's really what's happened in my opinion. Now. You know,

680
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Speaker 3: once that I saw on the Denver game is Bonnix

681
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: hasn't turned the ball over in fourteen quarters. One pass

682
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Speaker 3: was on a hail Mary. But Jane Daniels have three

683
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Speaker 3: picks today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's like you start turning the ball over,

686
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Speaker 3: you start forcing things. Games are a little closer. The

687
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Speaker 3: other thing is in the NFL, you know, regardless of records,

688
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: I've always thought, you know, as the season goes on,

689
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Speaker 3: like where do you get a lot of upsets in

690
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Speaker 3: the NFL? Are Division games in November and December with

691
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Speaker 3: a good team versus bad team. We see it every

692
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Speaker 3: year like today, who in their right mind would have

693
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Speaker 3: given Dallas a shot? But you could tell halfway through

694
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Speaker 3: You're like, this is a real game, this is going

695
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Speaker 3: to be tough.

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Speaker 1: Well, the tight quarterbacks played great. Yeah, No, it's it's

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Speaker 1: I think when I looked at that game, I'm like, oh,

698
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Speaker 1: Dallas just screwed up. Your drafts spot. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: to your point, I think we have to take a

700
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Speaker 1: deep breath. Washington replaced everybody they came in with a

701
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: new quarterback and a new offense in Cliff Kingsbury's history

702
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Speaker 1: of starting the first six to eight weeks quickly but

703
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: then eventually regression of the meme. Whereas Denver is better

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Speaker 1: than people think. Denver's got some really good players, Denver

705
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Speaker 1: has an elite offensive coach, Denver has a college quarterback

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Speaker 1: with sixty one starts, and Denver's Cortland Sutton, who, like

707
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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, is just a big target that's open all

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Speaker 1: the time. And I want to pivot to that game

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Speaker 1: because I we haven't talked a lot of Denver on

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Speaker 1: our Sunday podcast. So Denver beats the Raiders twenty nine

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Speaker 1: nine teams the only game all day. If I would

712
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Speaker 1: have bet every game, I think I would have gotten right.

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Speaker 1: So bo Nick's his last eight games, John fifteen touchdowns,

714
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Speaker 1: two picks, and a one oh four passer rating. In

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Speaker 1: those games, they're five and three. If the field goal

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Speaker 1: is not blocked against the Chiefs, they're six and two.

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Speaker 1: Like we have to acknowledge now, Denver with in dead

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Speaker 1: cap money. Hell that sacrifice draft capital. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a good team. I watch them again. The Raiders

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot at quarterback, but they've got some talent.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to be honest about this. I

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Speaker 1: think Denver's pretty good football team.

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Speaker 3: Well, Colin, I think we could be seven days away

724
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Speaker 3: from them being officially, I guess unofficially a playoff team

725
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Speaker 3: because they play Cleveland this week. In Miami, who's obviously

726
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: got it together with Tua back, a lot of people

727
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: think that they are alive and well, well, they play

728
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Speaker 3: the Packers this week. So if Miami loses and they

729
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Speaker 3: are then five and seven and Denver wins, they would

730
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Speaker 3: be eight and five. Like I have a hard time

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Speaker 3: seeing Miami catch them. So this is a massive week.

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Speaker 3: Like I think Denver's in the playoffs. If they handle

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Speaker 3: business this week and all of a sudden you start

734
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Speaker 3: doing the math like they're getting a nine, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But I think they end up with ten and that's

736
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Speaker 3: they basically doubled their win total. Like this. This has

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Speaker 3: been a huge year for Sean Payton. Honestly, it's been

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Speaker 3: a win win for Russell An Seawan, Yes, some marriages

739
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Speaker 3: break up, go other places, happy as hell with your

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Speaker 3: separate significant others. That's how it's worked out here. So

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Speaker 3: it's just it was never gonna work. You thought it.

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Speaker 3: We all thought it. Anyone with a brain that knows

743
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Speaker 3: these two personalities, even if you don't know him personally,

744
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Speaker 3: you're like, this isn't gonna work. And they broke up,

745
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Speaker 3: and it's gone well for both Listen Right and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: I think was pretty lucky that, you know, there was

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Speaker 3: six quarterbacks in the you know, because a lot of

748
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Speaker 3: them were going high. It just happened to be a

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Speaker 3: very unique draft because it's not like they were drafted

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Speaker 3: fourth right, so he needed some of the stuff was

751
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Speaker 3: out of his control, and it worked out perfectly. The

752
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Speaker 3: type guy that he would like is the last guy

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Speaker 3: off the board in the top fifteen. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: it was a historic draft, right, six guys going top twelve,

755
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Speaker 3: thirteen picks. We might never see that again.

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Speaker 1: And Denver has in nine of the last twelve games,

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Speaker 1: and this is so big for rookie quarterback. They've held

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Speaker 1: opponents under twenty So when bow Knicks maybe struggles today

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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: a little bit in a couple of drives. They're not

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Speaker 1: giving up points.

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Speaker 3: So their dbs A their dbs are good. I mean

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Speaker 3: every time I look up obviously certain's good. They have

763
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Speaker 3: all these other guys. This is why vance Joseph, which

764
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Speaker 3: Shawn deserves credit for. Because you give up seventy points

765
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Speaker 3: in a game, I would have been like, Shawn, you

766
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: might have to fire this guy by mid season, stick

767
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Speaker 3: it out by the end of the year. Last year.

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Speaker 3: They're playing good defense. This year, I think that has

769
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Speaker 3: to be the most surprised unit of the league. They

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Speaker 3: feel just on the it test, one of the best

771
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Speaker 3: defenses in the league. I know Gardner Minshew today, but

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Speaker 3: the score was a little closer. This guy. Never once

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Speaker 3: crossed my mind that the Raiders were gonna win that

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Speaker 3: game today.

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Speaker 1: No, but they've been doing this now for two months.

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Speaker 1: I mean, go to the Kansas City game. They outplayed

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and so on the road.

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Speaker 3: That's where I think, you know, depending on how this

779
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Speaker 3: Denver more than likely would probably be the seven seed. Baltimore. Yeah,

780
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Speaker 3: you know, the Baltimo already has four losses. But if

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Speaker 3: you're telling me, two of the three wild cards are

782
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Speaker 3: Denver and the Chargers, like anytime you play your wild

783
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Speaker 3: card weekend, you're playing an excellent defense, like you could lose.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is not a three seven game series.

785
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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you have a shitty half, You're

786
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Speaker 3: down fourteen to three in the third quarter. We've seen

787
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Speaker 3: this every year. So you got two teams separate from

788
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Speaker 3: obviously Herbert's, you know, an elite player. But even with

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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback. We have seen rookie quarterbacks have success

790
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Speaker 3: in the playffcause they don't have to do that much.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of you know, bo Nicks, as long

792
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Speaker 3: as he didn't turn the ball over and their defense

793
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 3: played a high level game, why couldn't they win it

794
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Speaker 3: seventeen to fourteen or fifteen to thirteen. They're very comfortable

795
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Speaker 3: playing that way.

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Speaker 1: Think about this, and I watched them today. Sean Payton

797
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: does such a good job of two things. Defining He

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Speaker 1: gives bon Nicks about eight layups. He gives them a

799
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Speaker 1: lot of easy stuff. And then Nicks deserves credit because

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Speaker 1: he is constantly seeking Courtland Sutton and Cortland. Sutton is

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Speaker 1: a basketball player with a helmet. I mean that he's

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Speaker 1: big in the corner. Jesus big, long athletic, and I've

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Speaker 1: always liked Courtland Sutton so and mims Is it can

804
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Speaker 1: be a burner. I like their backs, but you can

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00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: see that he gets bow Nick's easy stuff and then

806
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Speaker 1: bow Bow like Russell does with George Pickens, bow just

807
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: attacks Courtland Sutton. But take out Andy Reid. Just take

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid out. Belichick's now not coaching on any given Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'd argue Sean Payton's as good as coach as the

810
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Speaker 1: league has. I absolutely believe that. I think Andy Reid's

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Speaker 1: the best, maybe arguably ever. But now that Belichick's out,

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Speaker 1: take out Andy Reid. He can go toe to toe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Sean McVay. They've had some bad

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Speaker 1: offensive halves when people are healthy. So I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of this is, you know, it's just funny because

816
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Speaker 1: Shawn's done things to alienate people. He's outspoken. Remember he

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: took a shot at the Jets. He was right by

818
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: the way. You know, he took a shot at Nat Hackett.

819
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Speaker 1: He was right by the way. But you know, when

820
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Speaker 1: you lead with your chin, you offend a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: You cannot watch Denver and not see the coaching. It's

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Speaker 1: it's I mean to me, if you gave Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year today, I don't know how you'd I don't

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Speaker 1: know who you'd pick. I think Sean Payton's now after

825
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Speaker 1: that Tomlin time out mess, clock management mess, I think

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Speaker 1: I give it to Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: You know. I think it's the one award that, honestly,

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Speaker 3: as time goes on, is irrelevant. Right like Belichick, Andy Reed,

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Speaker 3: they don't even have that many. Andy Reid doesn't have one.

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Speaker 3: As a cancy chiefs head coach like Jim Harbaugh took

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Speaker 3: over a team that won five games, they're probably gonna

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Speaker 3: win eleven or twelve. And I think the way you

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Speaker 3: just describe Sean, I think Jim is definitely mellowed out

834
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Speaker 3: in his older age, but he was a lot like

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Speaker 3: that early on in Michigan and definitely with San Francisco

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Speaker 3: and both. I mean, look at those two guys. If

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Speaker 3: you would have said that the Chargers in Denver, whatever

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00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: the odds, if you would have parlayed those two teams

839
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Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, Colin, they might make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They might be resting starters by the last week of

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00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: the season. And it's not a coincidence that those guys.

842
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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing. And Sean once he hired Dennis Allen,

843
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: their defense was excellent the last three or four years

844
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Speaker 3: with the Saints. Jim, both offensive guys, former quarterbacks value

845
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Speaker 3: defense and will pay for it and invest in it.

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Speaker 3: And that really matters. And I don't think it's shocking.

847
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Speaker 3: And this is why you're watching the Raiders today. You're like,

848
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Speaker 3: can you imagine being the redhead stepchild of your division?

849
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Speaker 3: When you're in that you know, with those three coaches,

850
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: Like what do you even do? Like, you better hope

851
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: Belichick picks up your call this offseason, because if he doesn't,

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Speaker 3: you got no shot.

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Speaker 1: we're talking about that division. Let's talk Chiefs thirty Panthers

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. Again. The Margins are thinner, their defense is

859
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: not as good as last year. The red zone offense

860
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: is struggling, you know, and then they get the ball.

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00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes makes that great scramble down the left sideline and

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Speaker 1: you're like it's really interesting watching them. They're I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're giving Kansas City credit for this. It's virtually

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Speaker 1: impossible to win back to back titles, even if you

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Speaker 1: have Brady and Belichick in their prime, to win back

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Speaker 1: to back and be going for a third. There's only

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Speaker 1: so many motivational species. You go on the road today

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Speaker 1: at Carolina, you're an eleven point favorite, and I mean

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Speaker 1: you looked at the film. I mean, all these guys,

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Speaker 1: you're not fooling anybody. But I think Kansas City is

871
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Speaker 1: going to be dialed in. Think think a lot of

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Speaker 1: their issues now, like today, Do I believe they installed

873
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Speaker 1: everything they have? Do I really believe that? Or do

874
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Speaker 1: I believe there are moments now when they're taking chances

875
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Speaker 1: with offensive players where they're trying to develop a worthy

876
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Speaker 1: or Noah Gray. I kind of feel like when I

877
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Speaker 1: watch Kansas City, they're playing with their food. But again,

878
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Speaker 1: Buffalo is better. I don't think they're buttoned up right now.

879
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Speaker 1: But the way they came down Mahomes three or four,

880
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Speaker 1: big Scramble final Drive, I'm like, experimentations the wrong word.

881
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Speaker 1: But I don't think they're installing everything. I feel like

882
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Speaker 1: they're trying to find out what they are. Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think their defense is not quite

884
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Speaker 3: as good it's in the season, but some injuries. Yes,

885
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Speaker 3: but we've been saying that they're very, very comfortable winning

886
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Speaker 3: these weird games. Yeah, and when there was a when

887
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Speaker 3: there was more than enough time on the clock, even

888
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Speaker 3: when Carolina scoring out the two point, you felt confident

889
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Speaker 3: that they would have a chance at a field goal. Right.

890
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Speaker 3: They were also up twenty seven to nineteen late in

891
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Speaker 3: the game, so it's not like it was flipped and

892
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Speaker 3: they had to have some storming comeback, like they were

893
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Speaker 3: in control of the game. You know, we talked about

894
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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, right, just ran out of gas. Well,

895
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Speaker 3: they have been to three straight conference championship games and

896
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Speaker 3: won Super Bowl, and then they had a year off

897
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, and then they played the Chiefs in

898
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in nineteen. The Kansay Chiefs since twenty

899
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Speaker 3: eighteen have gone to every conference championship game and I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure they've won back to back. They won another

901
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Speaker 3: one and they lost Tampa. They've gone to four of

902
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Speaker 3: the last five Super Bowls and currently are ten to one.

903
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Speaker 3: So it's like, however, they have done. It's remarkable. And

904
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Speaker 3: I watched the Chiefs posted something in Andy in the

905
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Speaker 3: locker room, like we don't apologize for wins around here,

906
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Speaker 3: we're taking everyone's best shot. And say this about Carolina

907
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Speaker 3: the last I would say month, I mean, they had

908
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Speaker 3: won back to back games and then they went on

909
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Speaker 3: a by I kind of had circled that. If the

910
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Speaker 3: Chiefs had beaten the Bills, It's like I might have

911
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Speaker 3: taken them upset special in that and even this game,

912
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Speaker 3: like after that Bills game, the Chiefs are human, Like

913
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Speaker 3: are they gonna give their like you said, not just

914
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Speaker 3: the coaching their best shot, but the players, Like, do

915
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Speaker 3: you take Carolina as seriously as you did the previous week?

916
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Speaker 3: You cannot can't, Like, these are twenty eight, twenty seven,

917
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Speaker 3: twenty six thirty year old human beings, but they're ten

918
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Speaker 3: and one. It's they are on at equally, if not

919
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Speaker 3: more impressive, of any six seven year stretch of the

920
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Speaker 3: New England Patriot dynasty. Of what they're doing right now now.

921
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Speaker 3: If you're a betting man, the Patriots lost a lot

922
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Speaker 3: in the in the second in the conference championship game.

923
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Speaker 3: Over twenty years, this you would say probably based on

924
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Speaker 3: what I've seen, wouldn't shock me if they lost in

925
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Speaker 3: the second round, right or in the conference championship game,

926
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Speaker 3: especially depending. I mean now they only have the one

927
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Speaker 3: game over the Bills, but they are this is a

928
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Speaker 3: weird down year for them, and they're gonna be what

929
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Speaker 3: fourteen and three maybe fifteen and two class that's an

930
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Speaker 3: incredible accomplishment. So when we talk about the Andy Reid comparent,

931
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Speaker 3: Belichick like.

932
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Speaker 1: With injuries, they're trying to figure out the red zone offense,

933
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Speaker 1: they haven't had Isaiah Pacheco, like they're they're experimenting. They

934
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what they are. For the record, we

935
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Speaker 1: know the Raiders and the Giants are drafting a quarterback.

936
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Speaker 1: I watched Bryce Young today, who's arguably the best quarterback

937
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Speaker 1: ever in Southern California high school history, who was dominant

938
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Speaker 1: in college. I ran into his high school coach the

939
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Speaker 1: other night at Modern Day, a legend who's retired, and

940
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Speaker 1: I said, best player you ever had?

941
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Speaker 3: You know?

942
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Speaker 1: First second name out was Bryce Young. He's like, he's

943
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Speaker 1: just a remarkable player, great kid. I don't think Carolina's

944
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Speaker 1: going to draft a quarterback. I think the class is

945
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Speaker 1: two weak. I think they think Bryce is better than

946
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Speaker 1: anybody outside of shadhor Sanders. I think Caroline is going

947
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Speaker 1: to give Bryce Young another year. What's say you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say he's done a lot like his

949
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Speaker 3: version of what Caleb has done these last couple of weeks. Yep,

950
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Speaker 3: you know, over the last three game for him, he's

951
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Speaker 3: looked like a real player. Now, if you could do

952
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Speaker 3: it all over again, would you have mortgaged what you

953
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Speaker 3: did to get him? I mean I think probably not.

954
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Speaker 3: I would not, but he has been more than respectable

955
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Speaker 3: these last three weeks. And he you know, confidence is

956
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Speaker 3: a powerful thing for young players. Listen, He's not he's

957
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Speaker 3: a little small, not a great athlete, but he does

958
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Speaker 3: have a natural feel for the position. And that's what

959
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Speaker 3: was so head scratching when they essentially had to bench him,

960
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Speaker 3: is he was inaccurate. He was making awful decisions. He

961
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Speaker 3: just looked lost and maybe sometimes like you just take

962
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Speaker 3: a reset. Listen. I think Anthony Richardson, even today they

963
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Speaker 3: kind of got work, just has looked a lot better.

964
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Speaker 3: I thought he looked a lot better today. Take a

965
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Speaker 3: deep breath. I don't know if Bryce needed to be

966
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Speaker 3: like humbled like Anthony Richardson, but he definitely like just

967
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Speaker 3: take a step back was probably healthy for him, and

968
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Speaker 3: he looks like a real NFL quarterback. Now, their team

969
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: a lot of question marks. Is their coaching staff good enough?

970
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: Is their talent long way to go? But I'm with you,

971
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Speaker 3: like would you gonna draft cam Ward or Quinn you or.

972
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Speaker 1: Someth the same thing. In Tennessee. They beat the Texans

973
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Speaker 1: today and so that's I mean, this is not a

974
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Speaker 1: game that's riveting, but the Titans thirty two, Texans twenty seven.

975
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Speaker 1: So listen the last six games. C J. Stroud is

976
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Speaker 1: really struggling. They went and got Stefan Diggs should have

977
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Speaker 1: probably addressed the interior O line.

978
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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud is hurrying everything. He is struggling. He has a

980
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Speaker 1: seventy four passer rating in his last six games. He

981
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Speaker 1: is really struggling. But I watched Will Levis today and

982
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Speaker 1: my take is with Bryce Young and Will Levis, I'm

983
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Speaker 1: just keeping them. I'm giving him another year. I mean, hell,

984
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Speaker 1: the Giants paid Daniel Jones. I don't think Daniels as

985
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Speaker 1: natural as Bryce Young. I don't think he's as I

986
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Speaker 1: don't think he has the arm of Will Levis. In

987
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Speaker 1: my take, watching Will Levis today the last two weeks,

988
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, yeah, they got boat raced by Detroit.

989
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: They don't have the same level of players. But I

990
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Speaker 1: watched Will Levis and Bryce Young and my take is,

991
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Speaker 1: we like c J. Stroud and we see what he's

992
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Speaker 1: going through, and Houston's got better players than the Titans.

993
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: I thought Will Levis today bought himself absolutely another year.

994
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you can go get Sam Donold in the market.

995
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna stick with him.

996
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Will did give you the

997
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Speaker 3: one pick six, No he mad, He did make some

998
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: fantastic throws down the field. Something is really off with Houston.

999
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Speaker 3: I mean, they have not looked good in a way,

1000
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Speaker 3: even in their wins. It's just they looked a lot different.

1001
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Speaker 3: Maybe it was their schedule last year. Obviously, you know,

1002
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: protecting CJ has been a problem, but they look they

1003
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: look like a lock to be a one and done.

1004
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: You know, if you tell me they're playing the Chargers

1005
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: or the Ravens in the first round the way they're playing,

1006
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: I'd say Cyanara. But but I hear you, like, this

1007
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: is this leagu's hard, And I think sometimes you know,

1008
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: these teams get so caught up on these shiny targets.

1009
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Speaker 3: It's like, let's use Diggs for an example. So you're

1010
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: telling me the Bills, and listen, I know people with

1011
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: the Texas they like Dicks, but even like he hasn't

1012
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: been a personal personality problem. But let's just talk about

1013
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: the player standpoint. The Bills, who have been one of

1014
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: the best operations in the league minus like the Chiefs

1015
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: for the last four years, are completely out on the guy.

1016
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Speaker 3: You already have Nico Collins and Tank Dell, who are

1017
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Speaker 3: clearly a good young nucleus. With Schultz, you're gonna add

1018
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: a running back, Like your offense is not the line

1019
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: of scrimmage, line of scrimmage, line of scrimmage, Yet you

1020
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Speaker 3: go do that, Like, I think that's one where you're like,

1021
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: we didn't need to do that. That's right, but that

1022
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Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. We should have been extra aggressive for

1023
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: another guard, for another center, for another d tackle. That's

1024
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Speaker 3: where we're going to separate ourselves from the line of scrimmage.

1025
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: They felt like they wanted to go more and be

1026
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: this spread around team, and that's kind of what they

1027
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: look like now. They're just kind of soft. Yeah, and

1028
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: their offense gets shoved around today. I mean, one thing

1029
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 3: the Titans have had all year long is their defense

1030
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: is pretty good. Yes, you remove that game against the

1031
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: Lions where they scored seventy five points. Like, the Titans

1032
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: defense has not been the problem, and now will Levis.

1033
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Speaker 3: I think the statistics over the last couple of weeks

1034
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: have been a lot better on what have they been.

1035
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Speaker 3: They've been a lot more competitive.

1036
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think you have to strongly consider

1037
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Speaker 1: this quarterback class where Schner Sanders is the best product

1038
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: project prospect. But it's not great. I mean, he's got

1039
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Speaker 1: there's some ego, there's some emotion he holds on.

1040
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Speaker 3: I don't think he would have gone if you put

1041
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Speaker 3: him in this last draft. Yeah, he doesn't go ahead

1042
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Speaker 3: of Kleb. No, he does not. Jaden's more physically gifted.

1043
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Speaker 3: I think there's I would say, above a fifty percent

1044
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: chance that they still would go with Drake May in

1045
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Speaker 3: New England, bigger arm, cold weather like that factors in,

1046
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: so he wouldn't have even potentially gone definitely in the

1047
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Speaker 3: top two, but probably in the top three of this

1048
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Speaker 3: last quarterback class. That's not even a shock. I mean,

1049
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Speaker 3: Drake May was Nick Saven tried to give him five

1050
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: million dollars the previous year. Yeah, So I think sometimes

1051
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: we act like Drake May was just this overdrafted scrub

1052
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: and they got their butt kicked today. But he was.

1053
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Speaker 3: He's a legitimate prospect coming out of college.

1054
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Speaker 1: Well, and I think Sean Payton identified very early Bonnicks

1055
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Speaker 1: was his Drew Brees. So Shaduur is benefiting greatly. Cam

1056
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Speaker 1: Ward is a lot of backyard football, a very edgy

1057
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Speaker 1: personality and and I'll just I'll leave it at that.

1058
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: He's a very edgy personality, not for everybody. Jalen Milroll

1059
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Speaker 1: is not very fluid, big strong kid, great parents, wonderful kid,

1060
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Speaker 1: completely coachable. He's Anthony Richardson but better at this point.

1061
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Speaker 1: But he's not a natural, like he can make great throws,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He doesn't feel like he's played enough quarterback,

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Speaker 1: like he needs a lot of work. So my take is,

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Speaker 1: if I got Will Levis and I look at it

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00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: and I think, well, maybe Will's not Shador Sanders. But

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Speaker 1: if I if I've got five wins and I'm drafted nine,

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving up for Shador Sanders. I'm just staying

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Speaker 1: with will Levis for a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the you know, the thing with

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Speaker 3: Chadur and Dion combo. We'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: Like Chadour, at the end of the day, it's been

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00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: awesome to watch. They've been a fun story, yes, but

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00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: physically gift, you know, physically gifted. You say Dion's son,

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: he doesn't run. I think he got his athletic genes

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00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: from mom because he is not the athlete, Like he's

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00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 3: not Josh Allen, he's not Lamar, not hurt, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: move like those guys. And his arm, like Joe Burrow

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Speaker 3: is the best version of this, Like that's his arm,

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00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: like Joe does not have some hose, right, And I've

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00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 3: heard people compare like that, Like his physical skill set

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00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: is that of closer to Joe Burrow. But I think

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00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: people think of you know, Shador Sanders that aren't watching

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: every snap of Colorado. He's like this dual threat player.

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00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 3: That is not his skill set you know at all.

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: Cam War to me, is much more of a dual threat. Yes,

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00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: and he's got a way bigger arm than.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Cam's got a great arm.

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Speaker 3: And to me, Quinn, you weres the thing with Jalen

1089
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: Milroe and even Anthony Richardson throughout the history of the league.

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Speaker 3: Even let's say, you know, before these last three or

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00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: four years, those guys would have been like second round

1092
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: picks or late late first round, like projects, and now

1093
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: they get drafted a fourth and you're pulling your hair

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00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 3: out in year two. So I wonder if we kind

1095
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: of swing back a little bit and everyone takes like,

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00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: would you rather have a huge project or just take

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter with a third overall pick, right, That's what

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00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: I'd rather do, or the best left tackle or the

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00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: best pass rusher. And I wonder if we get a

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Speaker 3: shift back, because you just saw last year the Sunday

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Speaker 3: night game we're recording before, two of the best players

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Speaker 3: in that draft were Mitchell the dude. The Eagles took

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: the corner and Jared Verse the pass rusher, which historically

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Speaker 3: in a draft, the top corner in the top pass

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00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: rusher don't make it pass like pick seven. So I

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 3: think it's gotten a little out of whack, And I

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00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: wonder if the pendulum swings back a little bit, partly

1108
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be so much negativity on the quarterbacks.

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00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 3: You just watch college football It's all over the map.

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Speaker 3: Every single week.

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Speaker 1: Tampa thirty New York Giants seven, not a game I

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Speaker 1: care much about, but the Giants didn't show up twenty

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Speaker 1: three to nothing at half they trailed. The handling of

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00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones obviously did not sit well with Giant players,

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Speaker 1: and there were guys that were pissed, and I was

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: sitting there. First of all, I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: even arguable. The Jets and the Giants are the two

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Speaker 1: most dysfunctional franchises right now in the league. Carolina feels

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00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: like they got a little bit of a life. Carolina absolutely,

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee today felt like the win and the way they're playing,

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: they've got a little bit of a life. Chicago with

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Speaker 1: Caleb is fine, wildly entertaining four and seven team. I

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Speaker 1: think the Giants and the Jets are the two most

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Speaker 1: dysfunctional franchises in the league. I think New York probably

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: ends up having to take cam Ward is Brian da

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: bol safe. I would have absolutely bet the Farm four

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, but the way the team reacted they I mean,

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: teams don't quit very often in the NFL. I can

1145
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: remember fifteen years ago an Arizona Cardinal team with Matt

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00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Lioner in the snow in New England. Like I thought,

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00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: oh they quit. I felt like the Giants quit. I mean,

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: they didn't pursue on a couple of big plays. Is

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Speaker 1: Brian da Bole safe.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to give him somewhat of a pass

1151
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: this week because this is a management ownership decision. You

1152
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: don't go with Tommy Chicken Palm. You just paid Drew

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: Locke five million dollars. We saw him last year on

1154
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football lead a game winning comeback against the

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00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. He's a real player as a backup, and

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: he was paid as such. Well, why they go to

1157
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: Tommy because he's this local hero, the you know, the agent.

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean, it's, let's be real, it's a clown show.

1159
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's a circus. At least. The stuff with

1160
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: the Jets right now is basically all just sourced articles written.

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00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: This was actual actions. They benched Daniel Jones, and this

1162
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: is where I think the anchor comes from, which I

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: think Daniel's I talked about this on the podcast. He's

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00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: a good example of when you care like you put

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00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: more stock into the person and the character, which obviously

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: checks every box y. He's the perfect type guy over

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Speaker 3: the player. Yes, and I think they swung a little

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: too hard, and I think it's a testament to like

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Speaker 3: how good of a guy he is that all the

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: players the good ones really like him a lot, But

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: how could you take any like thing seriously if you're

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Speaker 3: a player in the backup all season long has been

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 3: Drew lock who's a real NFL player, and they go

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Speaker 3: to Tommy Cutlet's so right there, and I'm gonna give

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Speaker 3: day ball. I don't have inside information on this. That

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Speaker 3: feels like an ownership decision because part of it was

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Speaker 3: THEIRS incentives with Drew Locke. Obviously, they benched Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: for money, which I understand, Like, I'm not against that.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's three and thirteen. As a starter, it

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01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: was over, it had run its course. But then to

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: go to the third string guy, who, let's face it,

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01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: they're going to him for a reason, just like so

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: you can talk about him if you win a couple

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: games as a fun story, and then he's a complete embarrassment.

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 3: I mean, they couldn't even function. I mean the Bucks

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01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: have been leac and Oil both teams off of Bye

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Speaker 3: and the Bucks looked like the O seven Patriots against them,

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Speaker 3: and I just think that that's a reflection. You know,

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Speaker 3: John mara is this really like presidential and regal family

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Speaker 3: the name, but that organization post Koflin in that final

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01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: season has been it's paralleled like the Raiders and the Jets.

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Speaker 3: It's no different. They run through. Coaches have these situations.

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: It goes back to the benching of Eli for Gino,

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Speaker 3: and this situation, to me is even five times worse

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Speaker 3: because of it's Tommy cutlets When you have a backup

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Speaker 3: that other teams wanted. John Schneider wanted to keep them.

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Speaker 3: And remember the Giants were like, you have a chance

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Speaker 3: to kind of start here if Daniel Jones isn't healthy,

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Speaker 3: but you paid them five million dollars and then you

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Speaker 3: go to him. I just think that one's a hard

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Speaker 3: one to shake, and then to lose like you did today.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Brian day Ball, Joe Shane, who listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: not acting like Joe Shane's good and maybe Brian Dayball's

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Speaker 3: not either. But this has now become a John Mora operation.

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Speaker 3: Because do you believe that Brian Daball wanted Tommy Cutletz

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Speaker 3: to be the starter? No, he kept the ownership.

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Speaker 1: No. I think I think sometimes, and I think fans

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Speaker 1: are pretty smart about this. I think there's so much

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Speaker 1: information now. Fans are better at betting games. They have

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Speaker 1: more information that it's impossible to overcome. Say Al Davis

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Speaker 1: the last seven years he owned the Raiders like he

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Speaker 1: just couldn't overcome it. He blame Ki and pled with him,

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Speaker 1: don't draft JaMarcus Russell, like you know, there's nothing you

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Speaker 1: can do. I think Jerry Jones right now is is hard.

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Speaker 1: Nothing against Mike McCarthy, but I mean, Cooper Rush is

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Speaker 1: more than efficient, more than capable the defense when health.

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Speaker 1: He's got some good players can make, you know, defensive stands.

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Speaker 1: I think they're these aging owners. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: the Brown family in Cincinnati, they don't have an outdoor

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Speaker 1: practice facility. I mean you can tell Joe Burrows pissed.

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Speaker 1: He knows. I mean, they're not even paying T Higgins

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Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase yet, and they're moving off Joe Mixon,

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Speaker 1: giving him away for a seventh rounder. So I just

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Speaker 1: I look at the Giants and I think I always

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Speaker 1: thought they were well run. I always thought this was.

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Speaker 3: Like I always thought Dan Rouse with the Eagles. I

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Speaker 3: was like, this is a high level operation.

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Speaker 1: Listen, we know the Bidwell Arizona. You know, we know

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Speaker 1: the mccaskey's in Chicago, McNair's in Houston. We know the circuses.

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Speaker 1: Craft's well run. You know, Stan Cronkey non meddling. I

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Speaker 1: I always thought the Giants I always called him the

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Speaker 1: accounting firm of the league. Even when they won, they

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Speaker 1: were boring. I don't think I think they make bad hires.

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Speaker 1: I think Babel's not the problem. I hope he's safe

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Speaker 1: because I really do think he's smart. They have a

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Speaker 1: left tackle, a coach, and a star receiver and a

1237
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: couple of defensive linemen. I like, I think there's some

1238
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: elements there, but my guess is they're gonna end up

1239
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Speaker 1: with cam Ward.

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Speaker 3: You know. Let's use Jerry as an example. Though this

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01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: week there was a story on like Monday or Tuesday. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think Jerry created the story because he's seventh radio

1243
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: hit of the week. He's asked the question about Trey Lance. Yeah,

1244
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: and Jerry essentially said, we're trying to win. Cooper Rush

1245
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: gives us the best chance. Jerry's the one that pulled

1246
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: the trigger on the fourth round pick for the guy

1247
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: he could easily say, so let's just roll him out.

1248
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 3: It's worst case scenario. Maybe he just we strike oil

1249
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: these last couple of weeks and we feel good and

1250
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: we try to keep this guy or something. You know, No,

1251
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: we're going with Cooper Rush. Why because he's our backup quarterback.

1252
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 3: So for them to go to the third stringer that's

1253
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: Tommy Cutlets in Jersey, it's like, yeah, this what an

1254
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: embarrassing And then to have Baker and those guys basically

1255
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: rubbed in your face today, you know, doing the money

1256
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: signs that Cutlets was doing. That's one of those moments

1257
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 3: where you start feeling again. You're dressed well, you look

1258
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: the part, but your operation's starting to feel like the

1259
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Speaker 3: Dolean Knicks for a long time now, right, Just you

1260
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: guys have just I don't know, you have more name

1261
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: cachet with the Mars and the Tisshes, but we have

1262
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 3: to judge them now on the basic results in the

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01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 3: actions that we're seeing. It's crazy, Colin, and I'm not

1264
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: defending like you can always when they bench Russell Wilson

1265
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: and bench Derek Carr. Same thing. Money, we're not good enough,

1266
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Speaker 3: We're not going to the playoffs. We don't want to

1267
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: pay you twenty three million dollars. I'm fine with that,

1268
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: but this is not the NBA where we just wave

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Speaker 3: the white flag every team. Look around football today, teams

1270
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: are trying the Panthers that the Cowboys playing their asses off,

1271
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: and you roll out the third string quarterback in the

1272
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Speaker 3: middle of November. I mean, I went a couple weeks ago.

1273
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, go, the Cowboys are in trouble. Now. I

1274
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: think Cowboys are gonna get back to wins like him

1275
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving, now, don't you.

1276
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Lions twenty four in

1277
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: the Colts six. That was my upset pick of the week.

1278
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: I thought Detroit it was just due true. Yeah, so Detroit.

1279
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's you almost never see this had thirty

1280
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: seven to twenty two minutes time of possession. They're boringly methodical.

1281
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, they only had eleven first downs, he only

1282
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: eleven completions. Again, I think I think he's Jalen Milroe.

1283
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: I think Milrow is better at this point. But I

1284
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: think the Colts again, I think with Shane Steichen, they're

1285
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: going to stick with him another year. I just think

1286
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: that's the ree. I don't I think if you draft

1287
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: somebody in the first round and who's only played thirteen

1288
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: college games, you have to stick with Anthony Richardson. But

1289
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Lions and I didn't play particularly well,

1290
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: and the Colts had multiple opportunities in this game. This

1291
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: Detroit is the most dominant NFL team since the Brady

1292
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: Moss Patriots. It's incredible because Kansas City's won back to

1293
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: back titles. Would you be shocked if Detroit went to

1294
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and clobbered Baltimore, the Chargers, Buffalo or

1295
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City. And I mean with two weeks to prepare

1296
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: in their healthy rolled, I mean, this offensive line just

1297
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: takes the oxygen. When you play the Lions, you will

1298
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: have no rhythm offensively because even if you score, you're

1299
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna sit and watch for eight minutes. They take all

1300
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: of your rhythm away. And again, Anthony Richardson has eleven

1301
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: first downs. But we've you know, Kansas City's trying to

1302
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: find its offense. Baltimore's had these bad offensive showings the

1303
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: good teams. Maybe Philadelphia is their kryptonite. But I watched

1304
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: them today and I'm like, they didn't play well and

1305
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: it's thirty seven to twenty two time of possession.

1306
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 3: I think the hard part about football is I thought

1307
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: this exactly about the Ravens. I thought they were going

1308
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: to roll through the playoffs. I loved him in the

1309
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, and I thought that

1310
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 3: they were gonna end up playing the Niners, and that

1311
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: I'd seen him beat the crap out of him on

1312
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: Christmas and I expected it to happen again. And football

1313
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: can be weird that way. Now, the difference is the

1314
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: Ravens get off when the Lamar pass and him running

1315
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: around Ratio gets off. The Lions their defense today was

1316
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: really impressive. It's like we can win an ugly game

1317
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 3: and you just there was a couple of moments where

1318
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: they just forced long throw downs and you're like, ky,

1319
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: they're they're missing players getting injuries and they don't. But

1320
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: offensively where they don't hesitate is they got two backs yep,

1321
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: So like their Lamar and their offense is the running

1322
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 3: back duo and one guy will run it right up

1323
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 3: your throat and break tackles and the other guy looks

1324
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: like when he gets in the open, he looks like

1325
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders. I mean that guy can flock. And Jared

1326
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: Goff made a couple of throws today on the move.

1327
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: It was like, geez, like he's playing the best football

1328
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: if his care The confidence that franchise has. But here's

1329
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 3: the thing, and I remember in twenty nineteen when the

1330
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers were the one seed. It came down

1331
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 3: to the last play of the season against Seattle, and

1332
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 3: like the Dan Bunns two point zero dra green Law tackle,

1333
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: they only have a one game lead. It feels like

1334
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: they are running circles around the conference and the Vikings

1335
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 3: are nine and two. The Packers today, you know, you

1336
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: get that win against forty nine Ers, all of a sudden,

1337
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 3: they went on Thanksgiving. They're only a couple games like,

1338
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: their lead is not as big. Same thing with the Chiefs,

1339
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: who've had this remarkable season. They've already been beat by

1340
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: the Bills. They only got one game, so the Martians.

1341
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: This is a great part about the NFL. But yeah,

1342
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: I think the Lions would It would be stunning to

1343
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 3: see them lose. Now where it would change if somehow

1344
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: the home field fell out of favor and all of

1345
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, they're the two even if they

1346
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: won the division, but they had to go to Philly.

1347
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 3: We'll see how Philly looks over the course of the next

1348
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: three or four weeks. That would be very difficult.

1349
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: Well, right, I was thinking about this, you know, I

1350
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: think both of us love Dan Campbell and what he's created.

1351
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes he can get very emotional, you know, last year

1352
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, he gets very emotional. But I was

1353
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: thinking to myself Andy Reid's and the other conference, you know,

1354
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh, the other conference. The truth is

1355
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: the next best team in that conference is Nick Sirianni,

1356
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: and we don't trust him situationally, we don't trust him circumstantially.

1357
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: So it's like there isn't sort of a wizard. Shanahan's

1358
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: not going to be in the playoffs. Mcveigh's team doesn't.

1359
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they'll beat Philadelphia tonight as

1360
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: we're going right now. So my thing is I worry

1361
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about Dan Campbell in situational football. But

1362
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: those guys are on the AFC.

1363
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: You know, being with the quarterbacks, right, so we can

1364
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 3: you know, you know, I get asked a lot about

1365
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: your opinions and Nick Wright's opinions. Hey tell them this,

1366
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 3: and you know the civilian comment on Nicks on Jared Goff, Well,

1367
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: Jared Goff doesn't have to play Lamar Herbert, Joe Burrow,

1368
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and Patrick Mahomes in the first, second, and

1369
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: third round. He's gonna draw Jordan Love, who he plays

1370
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: multiple times a year. He's gonna draw I don't know,

1371
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 3: Geno Smith potentially, right, or Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins.

1372
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: So it's not even just the coaching, it's the quarterback matchup.

1373
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: Like you went in last year the AFC Championship game.

1374
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: You're like, listen, Mike McDonald, John Harbaugh. They have as

1375
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: good of a chance as any coach who's played Andy Reid, Sweet,

1376
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: Steves Pagnola over the last six or seven years, going

1377
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 3: back to Belichick and Josh McDaniels. But then that quarterback matchup,

1378
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: you're like, uh, Lamar's getting tight, Mahomes is loose. Well,

1379
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: Jared Goff Watson last year he went toe to toe

1380
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: with with Stafford in the first round, right, And this

1381
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: goes back to a couple of years ago when they

1382
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: didn't make the playoffs any ended Aaron Rodgers' career in Lambeau. Remember,

1383
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 3: it was like, well, Jared Goff can't play outside. He

1384
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 3: turns into a pumpkin. And that was a moment. And

1385
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: I forget the date, but it had to be like

1386
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 3: January fourth or fifth. He looked good, he was excellent,

1387
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: have essentially the game winning passed the end of ice

1388
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: the game, and ever since they've never looked back. Honestly,

1389
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: they're they're a field goal decision from Dan Campbell of

1390
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: potentially beating the Niners by a couple of scores. I mean,

1391
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: they had the chance to kind of nail in the

1392
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: coffin if he just kicks a field goal, unless we

1393
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 3: can argue to we're blue in the face. But they

1394
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 3: were kicking their ass, and so to me, then you

1395
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: get the think about this, if they get the home

1396
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 3: field advantage, you know, as the one seed, they only

1397
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 3: have to win two games, and then the super Bowl

1398
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 3: obviously is in a dome, which plays perfectly to them,

1399
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: so their speed. Honestly, they would probably love to get

1400
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: the Chiefs because how the Chiefs score with them? Yeah, right,

1401
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 3: it gets a little more difficult. You know, if Lamar

1402
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 3: can go on a run or Josh Allen go on

1403
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: to run, because those teams can score points, and if

1404
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: they got into a situation like that, they could go

1405
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: toe to toe with them. But if they get into

1406
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 3: a position where you know, the Chargers or the Bronco,

1407
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: you know, one of these other teams. They would not

1408
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 3: match up well against Detroit because Detroit gets twenty points

1409
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: in their sleep right and if they're on, they get

1410
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: to mid thirties. No problem, even with guys dropping like fly.

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 1: Yes, did you know that feeding your lawn regularly builds

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Speaker 1: Feed your lawn. Feed it, Okay. I want to spend

1424
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: ten minutes on college football. So my prediction before the

1425
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: year was Ohio State would lose at Outs and Stadium

1426
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: would play Oregon again and beat them and would play

1427
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: in the National Championship against the Texas Longhorns. So right now,

1428
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Texas and Ohio State, in my opinion, looked like the

1429
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: two best teams along with Oregon. Notre Dame Penn State

1430
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: also very very good. So again, it's big brands. You

1431
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: could put seventy four teams in this tournament. It just

1432
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: doesn't matter college football even more than college basketball because

1433
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: you have to have depth in football because there's a

1434
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: regulated level of violence. I thought, Ohio State, I think

1435
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Texas and Oregon feel like the best teams.

1436
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting against Indiana. I thought the

1437
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: game would be close. I liked the Buckeyes close. I

1438
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: thought it was a real moment where everybody was selling me. BYU, No,

1439
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: everybody is selling me Indiana. They just they look nervous.

1440
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: Special teams, gaffes, they just didn't look they didn't have

1441
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: the power, they didn't have the arsenal. They looked nervous.

1442
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: And it was funny. Josh Howard got some crap as

1443
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: they were rolling to a win. Signette's coat. Yeah, Will Howard.

1444
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: Will Howard, who's a good quarterback. I don't know if

1445
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: he's an NFL guy, but he's a good quarterback, big kid,

1446
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,839
Speaker 1: you know, makes play, don't.

1447
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 3: Like him plays who were like, I'm kind of into this, Yeah,

1448
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: I kind of like him. I kind of like him.

1449
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: Somebody probably drafts him. He's hard to evaluate because they're

1450
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: old lines historically, not this old line. But you know,

1451
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: they've got NFL high round receivers and running back, so

1452
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: he's a hard guy in Ohio. Stato's has so much

1453
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: better personnel than everybody in the conference, you know, but

1454
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 1: Michigan and Penn State on an annual basis. Now Oregon

1455
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: has their kind of level of talent. But it was

1456
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: funny watching Indiana get up there, and some people were

1457
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: bothered by this gesture Will Howard did at the end,

1458
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: and it's it's really funny. I'm like, guys, Indiana came

1459
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: into that game, and for a team that has never

1460
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: won a huge college football game in my life, I

1461
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: thought came in with a lot of attitude and a

1462
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of bravado, and I had no

1463
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: problem with Will Howard's gesture at all. And it's like,

1464
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to come into the ring against the

1465
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: perennial world chaml okay, and you're talking shit, then if

1466
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: they if they do a little gesture, I don't want

1467
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: to hear about it. And you know, Colin, you didn't

1468
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,440
Speaker 1: like Baker Baker. Mayfield did about nine different gestures at Oklahoma.

1469
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: This was Will Howard two seconds. But I kind of

1470
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,879
Speaker 1: found myself. I thought Indiana was obnoxious, a little cocky

1471
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: coming into the game.

1472
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, well starts with the coach. I mean, he's got

1473
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: a big opinion of himself. And the second half looked

1474
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: like the little kids versus the big kids. And if

1475
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 3: all these other teams hadn't lost as the day went on,

1476
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: I would have had no problem leaving Indiana at home.

1477
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 3: Listen to I like you, I didn't go to one

1478
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 3: of these schools. Like I'm a Big ten guy or

1479
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 3: an SEC guy. I'm just an unbiased lover of college football.

1480
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: Anyone making the argument like just watch the games with

1481
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: your eyes. We have the evidence of the NFL draft

1482
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: picks where all the talent is. I'm watching the SEC

1483
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: games on the road. You know, Oklahoma, I'm sure they

1484
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: got five or six guys on defense They're going to

1485
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: be drafted. And one these environments on the road are

1486
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 3: so hard in the SEC. If you put Indiana in

1487
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: the SEC, I think they struggle to sniff eight wins.

1488
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 3: I think they get rolled, and obviously they benefited this

1489
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: year from playing nobody. They just they're a great story

1490
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. But up until all these other

1491
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: teams with two losses lost last night, I would not

1492
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: have cried for them if they didn't get the invite

1493
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 3: to the dance. Now, just because of record, they probably will,

1494
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 3: but I would bet on them to be one and done. Yes,

1495
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: and see it and listen like I listen. I know

1496
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 3: you talked to Clad a lot. I can't fathom watching

1497
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: all these games and thinking the Big ten talent and well,

1498
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 3: they're six and six and their six and six. We'll

1499
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: just watch the two team play. Yes, watch the speed

1500
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: of guys on defense at Auburn, who's I don't even

1501
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: know what their record is five, they're gonna end up

1502
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: going five and seven. The talent discrepancy between them and

1503
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: Wisconsin on defense is fucking wider than the Grand Canyon.

1504
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: And yet we argue this every year. It's like, guys,

1505
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: take a deep breath, let's just watch the games and

1506
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 3: go like, no one says that about the Big twelve.

1507
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: We all acknowledge, Yeah, the Big twelve is a fun conference,

1508
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 3: but it's not that talented. But we always argue, like

1509
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: the Big ten in the SEC, Well, if you removed Oregon,

1510
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 3: the Big Ten would be terrible this year, right, And

1511
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: let's face it, this's not a Big Ten team. You

1512
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 3: guys just got them this year. So it's like Ohio

1513
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: State's carrying you. The rest of your conference talent wise

1514
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: looks down. I watch the SEC, and I get it.

1515
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: They got a lot of three and four lost teams.

1516
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 3: The talent on their teams is night and it's just

1517
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 3: harder to play more talented teams. On top of that

1518
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 3: because of the television networks now they're playing all these

1519
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: night games, these road night games against a bunch of

1520
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 3: NFL defenders is way more difficult than the Is that

1521
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: even arguable this year? No?

1522
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: I mean I watched Oklahoma. I thought they played a

1523
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 1: perfect football game against Alabama. They just were well coached,

1524
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: They were buttoned up, their quarterback had movement, they they

1525
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: were kind of they gave Alabama some fits. I mean,

1526
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: I watched that game and I was like, Jesus, Oklahoma.

1527
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 3: They're good on defense. They have NFL guys on defense, well,

1528
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 3: venables coach Clemson a bunch of pros, like he knows

1529
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: what it looks like. Offense is gonna be a problem

1530
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 3: for him, but no one's gonna argue that Venables in

1531
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: his defense is gonna be good. No, and they handled Oklahoma.

1532
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing about Auburn. I'm like, I

1533
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: don't know most of these players on Auburn. Shit, they

1534
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 3: sure look good to me.

1535
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: And you're a former NFL scout y, yeah, I'm just.

1536
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 3: Like, but doesn't that jump out sometimes when you watch

1537
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: these SEC games, even when their records like six and six, well,

1538
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: you're like, listen, I know they're struggling to win games,

1539
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 3: but they got talent on.

1540
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: The roster if it doesn't really matter how mny I mean,

1541
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: I think Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, Notre Dame, and like

1542
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: a like a Georgia Ole Miss. I don't really buy

1543
01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: Penn State. You know they've beaten them there.

1544
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 3: Because they didn't play anybody and they only had the

1545
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 3: one tough game.

1546
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 1: And they're lucky becaus Washington Miss.

1547
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: Is out probably right, But if you told me Old

1548
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 3: Miss played Penn State on a neutral field, I'm taking

1549
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,480
Speaker 3: Old Miss.

1550
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: Som and I think Jackson Dart actually is going to

1551
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: be like a second round pick. So I mean they

1552
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: have the better quarterback. You know, it was funny, I.

1553
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: Florida is a good example, aren't they. I'm watching them,

1554
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you put them in the if they

1555
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 3: made the twelve team tournament right now and they were

1556
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 3: playing Penn State in the first round, where's most of

1557
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: the money coming in on that game? Florida on Lagway

1558
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: if he's healthy on Florida right and if you told

1559
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 3: me Florida played Notre Dame, Like, I'm not saying that

1560
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 3: Florida would win that game, but you can't tell me that,

1561
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: like you would be surprised if Florida won.

1562
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: So I want to throw this at you. You know

1563
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: my connection to USC. I'm a homer, so I was

1564
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: saying this. It's it's not the South as La is distracted,

1565
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: You're going to be more patient. Jen Cohen's not running

1566
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. The boosters aren't going to step up and

1567
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: pay them the seventy million 's old or whatever it is,

1568
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: or they're building a three hundred million dollar facility. The

1569
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: nil collective at USC is thirteen million. They're not writing

1570
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: another check for Lincoln Riley. But I was texting somebody

1571
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: inside USC athletic department. I said, if you beat Penn

1572
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: State in overtime this year and you had the opportunity

1573
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: overtime at Coliseum, I said, you would have beaten LSU

1574
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: Penn State, your rival with nine returners on offense. If

1575
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: you just go get a quarterback like Oregon did in

1576
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: the portal, you bring back the entire offensive line outside

1577
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: of center, all of your receivers, all of your tight ends,

1578
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: and you have you had a very good recruiting class

1579
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: last year. Defensive line the best they've had since Pete Carroll,

1580
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 1: but they all red shirted. And I'm like, you're a

1581
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe a defensive tackle and a corner away

1582
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: from being really interesting. And somebody said, hey, thanks for

1583
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: the optimism, and I'm like, now that's what you really are.

1584
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Like with Brian Kelly, I don't know what I get.

1585
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: Week to week USC's games, John, they all look the

1586
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: exact same. They lead in the fourth quarter. I mean,

1587
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: take the Michigan game out where it felt like they

1588
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: were playing from behind, they were playing Chase. Every game

1589
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: looks the same. They just don't. They're not good enough

1590
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: at quarterback and they're too young on the offensive line

1591
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: to seal it.

1592
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: But I was.

1593
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend about this, and he's

1594
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: in the South, and I said, it's just different out here.

1595
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: It's not the beginning and end. They're not no boosters

1596
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: riding a fifty million dollar check for Lincoln Riley. They

1597
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: just paid three hundred million for facilities. And I said,

1598
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: when I look at coaching, I said, do I get

1599
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: the same kind of team every week? Brian Kelly's a

1600
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: bit of a mess and he's not really likable people like,

1601
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, the players like Lincoln. They're not a lot

1602
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: of guys transferring. The coaches like give me built a

1603
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,600
Speaker 1: nice staff. So my take on USC is they're the

1604
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: advantage to being non sec is you get another year

1605
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: to two. Shit, they kept Clay Helton around forever and

1606
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: he was over his skis your thought on.

1607
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 3: USC, Yeah, I would fall under the USC guy that

1608
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 3: you texted that you're a lot more optimistic than me. Yeah,

1609
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're probably gonna get killed this week,

1610
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 3: right and be six and six. So last year was

1611
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 3: a devastating year for Lincoln, right, it was. It was

1612
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: not thought of highly and they had a better record

1613
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: than this year right in a conference too that was

1614
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 3: really down. So you look back the Michigan and Minnesota.

1615
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: Minnesota is actually pretty good.

1616
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: On the Washington did a rebuild, Michigan's did a rebuild,

1617
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: and UCLA's and rebuild.

1618
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, like, let's use Texas analogy with Sark.

1619
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: Sark started just buying sweet players and maybe it's more

1620
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: just the Texas boosters and every it's a little more

1621
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 3: aggressive there with football, Like they knew they were going

1622
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: to the SEC. They have cared for a while, they've

1623
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 3: been dying for like make money. Right, they were lined up.

1624
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 3: I wonder if USC, so far removed from Pete, has

1625
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 3: the same aggression, Like if there are six or seven

1626
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,959
Speaker 3: guys that can immediately change your organization or your program.

1627
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 3: You know Caleb Downs, I saw you tweeting about him yesterday,

1628
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 3: Who's immediately transfer portal? And really probably three teams put

1629
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 3: all their chips in the middle tables, probably Georgia, Texas,

1630
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Right, Well, can USC start swimming in that

1631
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 3: end of the pool. Because I do understand if I'm

1632
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: a USC guy or a booster or someone around the

1633
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 3: program like a liner, I go, well, I know for

1634
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 3: a fact, given the rules that are at play now.

1635
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 3: When we were here with Pete, we would have Caleb downs.

1636
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 3: Maybe we don't get them, but he's definitely taking a

1637
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: visit and having long conversations with all of us. And

1638
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: it doesn't even feel like USC is dealing in that.

1639
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: And like the slow build, like there aren't slow builds anymore.

1640
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 3: You can quick flip it. And that's why everyone's down

1641
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: on Brian Kelly. It's like, you guys are in year three?

1642
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Right? And that's where I wonder

1643
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 3: if Lincoln is he going to recruit hard enough? Is

1644
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: he going to be able to do that in terms

1645
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: of like, listen, I'm not Ohio State guy, but I

1646
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 3: do respect whoever the Caleb downs is this offseason. You

1647
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 3: bet you're ass that it's Sark and Ryan Day on

1648
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: the phone with that kid. Well, because they got the money.

1649
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 3: Well does Lincoln out of them? And Dan Lanning?

1650
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: Well the knock on Lincoln and I think it's fair

1651
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't recruit Southern California. Well, he has not engenered

1652
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: himself to Southern California coaches. He can be prickly and

1653
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: precious and sort of you know, he's a small town guy.

1654
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes he feels aloof and that does not work in

1655
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: high school recruiting.

1656
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: Do they care enough? Look at Michigan's a good example. Right,

1657
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: they had Harbaugh and they got that taste the last

1658
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 3: three years and it was incredible. And then this year's

1659
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 3: going couldn't be going much worse relative to what they've been.

1660
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it's like LSU is getting this quarterback. No,

1661
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 3: we'll rally the money, get Larry Ellison on the phone,

1662
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, we have some package of

1663
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 3: ten to twelve million dollars. I don't exactly. There are

1664
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: a lot of discrepancies how the deals structured, but we

1665
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: will pay you more than anyone else. Why because we

1666
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 3: care that deeply. We care that deeply. And it feels like,

1667
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 3: you know, when USC was in their heyday, they really

1668
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 3: really cared. Oregon has maintained that right from Bellatti to

1669
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: Chip to heal Rich to now through Landing. Well, hell

1670
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 3: feels like it doesn't feel like USC cares enough.

1671
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's fair. I think Jen Cohen, the

1672
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: athletic director does. They're collective thirteen million, so they I

1673
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: mean that people have stepped up. But the economy in

1674
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is bigger than almost you know, it's bigger

1675
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: than Canada's, so it's you know, are certainly thereabouts. So

1676
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: it's fair question.

1677
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: Shouldn't SHOULD'TY be able to outbid some of these? You know,

1678
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 3: if LSU and Alabama want a kid in the transfer

1679
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 3: portal and they're willing to pay X, shouldn't they pay

1680
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: X plus another twenty percent?

1681
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1682
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 3: I am the guy.

1683
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Yes. I mean it's if you look at sports from baseball,

1684
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: I mean, there are salary caps, but I think players

1685
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: know who's committed. I mean you can see it in

1686
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: the NFL like free agency, like people know Philled has

1687
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: committed people, San Francisco has committed, Chicago's not, and players

1688
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: can sniff it. Players can see it and smell it

1689
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: and feel it. And I think your questions are what

1690
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,879
Speaker 1: I hear from my friends, and I'm probably more patient

1691
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: and too optimistic. I think that's that's reasonable. I will

1692
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: say this, and I heard it again today from somebody

1693
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: I trust. The fastest rising quarterback is going to be

1694
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: Jalen Milroll. He can be a bit robotic, it doesn't

1695
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: look pretty. But if Minnesota keep Sam Darnold as you're suggesting,

1696
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: and many will. There's gonna be seven teams that need

1697
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Somebody's taken that guy. I mean if the Raiders,

1698
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean we know the Raiders, Giants are taking quarterbacks.

1699
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: You start looking around this league, it's gonna be another

1700
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: three teams taking quarterbacks.

1701
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not trying to pivot away from college.

1702
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,440
Speaker 3: But we didn't talk about this guy in one quarterback

1703
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 3: move could obviously swing if a team needs the guy,

1704
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 3: and clearly this team does. But Rogers and wood Johnson

1705
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: at each other's throats. You are you shocked at uh

1706
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 3: Poshins than his owner. He's never had an owner, and

1707
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 3: now you know they're going at it. You can tell

1708
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 3: like some of these leaks coming out about Aaron, who

1709
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 3: do you think is leaking that? I would defend Aaron

1710
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: of like not doing the scans that was the story,

1711
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 3: because he just goes these guys are gonna leak anything

1712
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 3: that comes out. So it's I don't trust anyone here

1713
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 3: in everyone's well, he doesn't trust anyone. I think this

1714
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 3: is a specific thing. He's already going this Jets. But

1715
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 3: this gets back to Aaron. You had a pretty good

1716
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: in Green Bay. This is what a dysfunctional team looks like.

1717
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 3: And now you're looking at this crazy owner, all these

1718
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 3: people in the building. You don't trust any of them,

1719
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: Like this is what shitty NFL dysfunction is. And you

1720
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 3: signed up for this. You wanted this, You wanted out

1721
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 3: of Green.

1722
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Bay Well Woody Johnson, Robert Sala, they played Aaron's vanity.

1723
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: They flew out to Malibu. They you know, got in,

1724
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: got into his house and sat down with Aaron, and

1725
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: you know that stuff. Aaron wasn't heavily recruited.

1726
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 3: He gave a first round pick for him. Who else

1727
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: was giving up a first round pick for the thirte Aaron.

1728
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Aaron went to a junior college. Aaron went to cal

1729
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Aaron wasn't heavily recruited. I totally get Aaron, you know,

1730
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: being seduced. He had to. Then he goes to Green Bay.

1731
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: He sits behind this Messiah far I get Aaron Rodgers

1732
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: being seduced by the pitch, Like, I totally get it.

1733
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: It's like these high school guys that go to the

1734
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: G League. You know, they never get pitched by a

1735
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: Bill Self or or you know, some elite coach. They

1736
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: don't get they don't get pitched. So when they eventually

1737
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: do the first time, you know. And so I think

1738
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: the two things that I would say about Aaron Rodgers won.

1739
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: He got very after that Super Bowl. He got a

1740
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: little snarky, a little passive aggressive in Green Bay, and

1741
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: he had a lot of leverage because there's no owner

1742
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: to tell him to just settle down. There's no owner,

1743
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: And I felt far of an Aaron Rodgers couldn't be

1744
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: different people. But in the end, for both of them

1745
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: at Green Bay, there wasn't an owner to sit them

1746
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 1: down and say you want to be here or not,

1747
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: and they kind of manipulated Gouden Kunst or whoever the

1748
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: GM was during FARV they kind of you know, Mark

1749
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: Murphy was there. But I always call it the Green

1750
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: Bay Packer quarterback syndrome. There's no owner to call you

1751
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: out on your stuff. And so I think Aaron, you know,

1752
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: got seduced. And then he goes to New York and

1753
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: he figures, you know, they got a good roster like

1754
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Brady and Tampa. He get roster. The sala is a

1755
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: good looking guy from the Niners. So that's the first lesson.

1756
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: The second thing, though, we have to be completely upfront

1757
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: about here is I'm just going to start naming quarterbacks

1758
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: in their prime in the NFL. Mahomes, Allen Herbert, Lamar Goff,

1759
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald Frankly right now, Sam Darrow, Joe Earle, Jalen Hurts,

1760
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, who didn't play well today. He's not close

1761
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 1: to those guys. John Aaron's Jordan Love is probably a

1762
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 1: year away from being in his prime because because we're

1763
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 1: where he sat for years. Aaron doesn't look like Justin Herbert.

1764
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like any of those guys.

1765
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't look like Geno Smith.

1766
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: He doesn't Gino made some big off script plays today

1767
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: against Arizona like Aaron is. The other day, I was

1768
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: just writing down names. I was sitting here at home,

1769
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, watching something. I'm writing down names. I got

1770
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: to about seventeen, and I'm like that, that's kind of

1771
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: what he is. Right Like, We've got to be honest.

1772
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: The grass is nose greener, and Aaron's an under earthing

1773
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: I was told years ago about Aaron. He's not a

1774
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: grinder like Drew Brees. In the offseason. You can tell

1775
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: John forget football players. You can tell when somebody takes

1776
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: care of themselves in life. You can see if they've

1777
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: had too much to drink in their life. You can see,

1778
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, the ruddy complexion. You can see when people

1779
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: are overweight. You can see when people haven't taken care

1780
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: of things. You can walk up and you know, look

1781
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: somebody up and down in thirty seconds and say they've

1782
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: lived hard, they've dried too much, they've eaten poorly. Aaron

1783
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: did not have a reputation who's aging well. You know,

1784
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: Brady aged well. Breeze lost his arm, but you know

1785
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 1: aged well. Big Ben did not right. And so I

1786
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 1: think with Aaron he's aged very quickly. And part of

1787
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: it was his off seasons were Aaron's. He's he's he

1788
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: worked out, but he wasn't a grinder. He wasn't he

1789
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: wasn't obsessed with it like Peyton Manning. And again I'm

1790
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: not saying mahomes can't get a dad bod for three

1791
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: weeks and shut it down. But I think Aaron has

1792
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,839
Speaker 1: aged poorly. I think he's aged very quickly.

1793
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that injury last year accelerated

1794
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 3: the process at an exponential rate. And this year you

1795
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 3: got a guy that you know, it's probably a couple

1796
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: feet away from being out of the league. You know,

1797
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 3: so these stories, whether they you know him and Woody,

1798
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 3: they end up cutting him or the season plays out.

1799
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he has other options, and a lot

1800
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 3: of other players always say, well, he's got this resume

1801
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 3: at forty forty one years old, make a lot of money.

1802
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 3: The headaches Now, I think I'm not saying that it's

1803
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 3: a one percent no one touches him, but it falls

1804
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 3: off quick, right, And I think once you get this reputation,

1805
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot more quarterbacks in the NFL, Like, would

1806
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,719
Speaker 3: I rather have Sam Darnold's for fifteen twenty million dollars

1807
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: or take a chance on Aaron Rodgers, especially if I'm

1808
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 3: a new coach, right, some of these coaches that it's

1809
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 3: my first year, like let's just let's just settle everything down.

1810
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: And I think it's proven that Aaron's not gonna settle

1811
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: everything down type of guy.

1812
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