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Speaker 1: is here. Boom, have no fear. The I Am rapp

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Speaker 1: Reports Stereo podcast is here. On today's brand new Banging

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Speaker 1: the Iron rapp Reports Stereo podcast guest. My guest is

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Speaker 1: Maton Peretts. Baton Perettes has been one of the most outspoken, vocal, passionate,

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Speaker 1: hilarious voices since October seventh. He is born and raised

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Speaker 1: in the quote unquote occupied West Bank. He's a stand

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Speaker 1: up comedian and he serves in the id F. He's

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Speaker 1: got a lot to say about a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: He's really smart, really funny, and he's a great great guest.

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Speaker 1: This is a great episode with my guest Maton Perettes,

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Speaker 2: Let's fucking go all right, Boom Iron Rapports stereo podcast

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Speaker 2: this year, Have no fear. I'm excited about this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had done it in person. When I

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Speaker 2: was in Israel, because I feel like I knew this

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Speaker 2: guy before I met him. And I got to meet

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Speaker 2: our guest on today's podcast, Matan Peretz, who is live

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Speaker 2: from the West Bank, who I got to meet in Israel,

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Speaker 2: who I found out about on social media, just like

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Speaker 2: it's almost like a dating app. We find so many

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Speaker 2: people that we, you know, you become friends with in

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Speaker 2: this day and age. And I found a Matan innocently

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Speaker 2: since October seventh with his posts, and then I realized

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Speaker 2: from following more that he's a comedian who is also

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Speaker 2: serving in the Ideaf, which to me is so it's

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Speaker 2: such a dichotomy of things, but it's such a sort

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Speaker 2: of Israeli sort of thing. So I welcome a ton

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Speaker 2: to the Iron Wrap Port Stereo Podcast. I appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time. How are you? How

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Speaker 2: is everything? How is everything today in your world? Everything

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Speaker 3: We're good. We're trying to you know, it's been weird

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Speaker 3: I was in the Judaine Samaria for almost seventy days.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really have the time to adjust from my vacation.

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Speaker 3: So I'm doing it right now. And it's been weir

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Speaker 2: What So, where were you on October.

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Speaker 3: Seventh in Mexico, Concun on vacation on vacation. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: So as far as stand up comedy in Tel Aviv, like,

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Why think it's because the

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Speaker 3: The special was two parter, and the first part came

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Speaker 3: my blessings that all, like everything I lost is in

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Speaker 3: It's on YouTube. Yeah, my conperit stand up I have

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Speaker 3: So I will say that the majority of people, especially

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Speaker 3: Nobody gives a ship. Like the LIFs here are so

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Speaker 3: was born there right my mom. They're from a part

428
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: of Turkey whatever. They lived in Jerusalem for like eight generations.

429
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: Like most of my friends are either Morocca and Yemeni, Ethiopian,

430
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, Russian, Ukrainian. Like for us, it's like thinking,

431
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 3: like and they say it so proudly, Like I've seen

432
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: some TikTokers going like, yeah, Israelis are white colonizers, and

433
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: I was like, are you serious right now?

434
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 4: Like look at me, like is there anything white colonizing

435
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: about this face? Like when I walked in New York,

436
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: Swear to God, when I walked to New York, I

437
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: went through like a medicine square garden, I can around

438
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 4: fifty people.

439
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: I'm not even exaggerating. Fifty people walk straight to my

440
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: face and went Salam alekum and I was like, I

441
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: let um salam because you know what I mean, Like

442
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: they first straight up thought I was Muslim, like like

443
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. They didn't even ask, like where you're from.

444
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: They just go straight up to me and went Salam

445
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: alekum bad. And I was like, I let them salam bad,

446
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So you call me a

447
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: white colonizer, Like what are you talking about? This is

448
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: just insane. And I'm really like, try to explain to

449
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Israelis that this is what the world think of us.

450
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: They're just like, well, there's no one to talk if

451
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: that's what they think. I don't. I don't know. How

452
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: can you deal with that? How do you have the

453
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: energy or the patient to explain to people that these

454
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: races are not a white colonizers. It's insane. That's the

455
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: biggest one. The biggest one, and the second one is

456
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: about like gay rights and women rights.

457
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: Explain the fucking reality you grew up in the West Bank,

458
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: the occupied West Bank. Explain the reality of women's rights,

459
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: gay rights of people in the West Bank.

460
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So, to be brutally honest, there is none, no

461
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: women rights, no gay rights. If you're just being suspected,

462
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 3: not even caught in the act, suspected of having gay tendencies.

463
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: Listen very carefully of what I'm saying, not like caught

464
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: in the act with it, not a dude in your bed.

465
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about suspected of

466
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 3: having gay tendencies, which means you're either a little bit

467
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: feminine or you just I don't know, metrosexual. Whatever, you

468
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: just take care of your face and your body too

469
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: much and you're suspected, they will throw you off a

470
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: fucking building, like for suspicion. And your family, your fact, brothers, sister's, dad, mom,

471
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: they will be on their side, not on your side,

472
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: because you're suspected of being gay. I'm not even talking

473
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: like transsexual and this, Like I'm talking about gay tendencies

474
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: and women right. I don't know if people know that,

475
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: because clearly they don't. As an IDF soldier, you're not

476
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: allowed to talk to Arab women. Those are the army rules.

477
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: You want to know why?

478
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Why?

479
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: Because if you talk to an Arab woman and she

480
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: talks back or her husband gonna bit the shit out

481
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: of her when she got home. So to prevent that,

482
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: you're not allowed to even look at them. And people

483
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: are talking about the Israeli army is raping and doing

484
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: we're not allowed to look at them. That's the only reason,

485
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: one of the main reasons that we have female soldiers

486
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: on the borders, female inspectors. Why because we are not talking,

487
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: let alone touching Arab women. Not because we're violent and

488
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: we have we need to have restrictions, No, because they

489
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: will do so she's going to have a lot of

490
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 3: problems going back home to her husband. So that's why

491
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: that happens. So when people talk about how IDF treat

492
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: Arab women, they have no idea what they're talking about.

493
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: And like those people who love to say, show me

494
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: the video, show me a video of IDF soldier, a

495
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: male IDEAF soldier dragging an Arab woman, Show me that video.

496
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: And if that guy is not in jail, I don't know,

497
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: there is no chance that this shit happened. And they're asking, like,

498
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: why you meading Arab woman that way, why you're doing this,

499
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Why are you're stopping them? And you were holding him

500
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: in the border because a friend of mine, a dear

501
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: friend of mine, was severely injured by an Arab woman

502
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: coming to the stop, coming to the border opposing as

503
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: pregnant and she blew up. Yes. So that's the reason

504
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: why we don't get close to them. We give the

505
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: women soldiers deal with them. That's why we stripped down

506
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: the people we think are suspicious because those things happen,

507
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: and people think that we're doing this out of like

508
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: to belittle the Palestinian Army. No, not at all. The

509
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: reason the world exists, the reason those inspections exist there

510
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: isn't the metal detectors exist is because every metal detector

511
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: that is in Israel, somebody died there or severely injured

512
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 3: because they wouldn't They didn't expect people as well as

513
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: they should. So that's what people don't understand. So as

514
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: long as it's coming like women rights, gay rights treatment,

515
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: the idea of treating Arab people have no idea, And

516
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: it's so easy to say, oh, you're lying, You're like,

517
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: you can argue what you're lying. I'm telling you. The

518
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: the army guidelines and restrictions, like if your commander catches

519
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: you talk to an Arab woman. You're in a lot

520
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: of trouble talking. I'm not talking about touching, dragging talking.

521
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: So that's something I think nobody really knows. And outside

522
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: of Israel.

523
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's real shit, all right. The West Bank.

524
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: You grew up in the West Bank, your family is

525
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: from the West Bank. What is it like in the

526
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: West Bank? What what is real? What's not real? What

527
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: is the day to day relation between Jewish people, Palestinian people,

528
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: Jewish people, Arabs? Explain? You know, I know you can't

529
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: do the whole thing in just a little podcast. We

530
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: go on and on and on and on and on,

531
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: but just give me the overview of what is it like.

532
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 2: What is your experience like, what is day to day?

533
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: What was it like before? What is it like going forward?

534
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: Just break it down.

535
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: So as someone who grew up in Judan, Samaria and

536
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: did my mandatory service and then got back there with

537
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: my reserve service, my family lives there. My whole mom's

538
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: side of the family still lives in Sevuon, Kiriata, Baca Metsu,

539
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: all those settlements in Judan Samaria. Let me tell you this.

540
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: The problem, the main problem are not the Arabs. The Palestinians.

541
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: It's their leadership and their education system. Because when you

542
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: want your house to get built nine time out of ten,

543
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: you're going to take our workers gonna do a great job.

544
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna stay friends with them. They're gonna come around,

545
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: drink some black coffee with you. Everything's gonna be awesome.

546
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: The moment things heating up, you won't see them. You

547
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: won't see them again, and they won't come back or

548
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: whatever one of you can figure out from like oh,

549
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: the contractor his son was a suicide bomber like stuff

550
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 3: like that. So the thing is, when I was in

551
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: first grade, they took us to a tour around the

552
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: Cavon mountains. Right, they took us to a tour first grade,

553
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: just like fifteen minutes away from the school. And the

554
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: coming back and the moment we got outside of our

555
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: settlement of Kiyatagaba, I think it was like maybe ten

556
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: or five or ten Arab youth destroy our bus with

557
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: rocks like this bit destroy the bus and this is

558
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: a bus of first graders. Right, I'm six seven years old.

559
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: They destroyed our busy. We called the army, we called

560
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: it whatever. And my experience was if you went out

561
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: of this gate. People gonna want to kill you for

562
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: just being a Jew. You didn't do anything wrong, right,

563
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: for just being a Jew, people are gonna want to

564
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: kill you. Now, it's very hard to shake that feeling

565
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: that everyone's an enemy. It's very hard. It's not the true,

566
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: it's not true because not everyone is an enemy, but

567
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: that's the sense you get when you grow up in

568
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: those areas. And then when I, you know, I grew up,

569
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: we moved to Saner, Israel pretty much, and it's really

570
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: hard to shake that feeling that anything could happen at

571
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: any time. So when I'm looking when I got back there,

572
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: when I felt that again that if you drive in

573
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: here when you see green car plates, you know that

574
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: those are not Israeli civilians. You're on edge, you're very

575
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: ready for stuff to happen. And I think that's not

576
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: the Palestinians fault. That's their leadership and their education, because

577
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: when I was six years old, seven years old, we

578
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: lived under a constant threat obviously of you know, suicide

579
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: bombers and terrorists, but still what we learned at school

580
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: was a little bit about the Bible, a little bit

581
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: about like the Arabs and us our cousins because we

582
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: both from Abraham. And then like, that's what we learned,

583
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: that's what I grew up in Judan Samaria and not

584
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: in center of Israel. In ju Dan Samaria, we studied

585
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: that Arabs and Jews are from the same ancestor, right.

586
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: And then when I was in the army, we went

587
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: into a school and we got some pamphlets from the

588
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: school and some like curriculums and videos obviously, and you

589
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: see six seven years old, it's addressed as kamasterists. Their

590
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: final performance of second or third grade, I think, was

591
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: how to execute Israeli soldiers. I'm talking about seven eight

592
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: year old kids, and they're very proud of them, like

593
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: their parents are sitting in the crowd filming, clapping their hands.

594
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 3: So I think that's the main problem. Take away the government,

595
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: take away the terrorist organizations. We work together, We can

596
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: get along, like really we can, like we do. Most

597
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: of the houses built in Judan Samaria was built by Arabs,

598
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: like our contractors, Arab workers whatever. Like the fact that

599
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: right now they're not allowing Palestinians to go inside the

600
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: settlements to build houses are harming both Palestinians and the settlers.

601
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 3: That's what people don't understand. So it's for me, it's

602
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: just you need to find a solution that is from

603
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: the ground up, just like they did in Turkey Altou

604
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: when he just changed the whole country from being rhdical

605
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: Muslim to be kind of western. I think that's what

606
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: needs to happen with the Palestinians unless I don't see

607
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: any other solution, like a real solution, not like a

608
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 3: temporary bandid.

609
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: Damn podcast October seventh. Was such a disastrous historical line

610
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: in the relationship between Palestinians and Israel and the world

611
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: in Israel, what is the way out of this?

612
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: Like?

613
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: What does the future look like? What do you imagine

614
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: the future looks like? Like? Where are we going to?

615
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: Be completely honest, I was seventeen eighteen, maybe when I

616
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: was seventeen when they withdrew from the Gaza Strip in

617
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: two thousand and five. I was right before joining the army,

618
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: and of course I was against it. Everyone who a

619
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, on the right side of the map,

620
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: was against it very strongly, very severely. And me, my family,

621
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: my dad, my cousins, my aunts and uncles, and grandpa

622
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: and grand and grandma, we all said, this is a

623
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: terrible mistake. Like the people that live outside of Gaza,

624
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: those keyboots people are going to get screwed so hard.

625
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: And everybody said that we were just you know, we're

626
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 3: just trying to scare them. We're crazy, we don't understand

627
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: how relationships work. We're going to give them Gaza and

628
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: they will build like you know, a safe haven or

629
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: casinos or whatever. And we said, listen, this thing is

630
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: going to blow. I don't know when, but it's going to.

631
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: And October seventh, the last thing we wanted to say

632
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: was we told you so that was the last thing

633
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: you wanted to say. But we knew it's going to happen.

634
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: We knew you can't trust. You can't be neighbor to

635
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: a terrorist organization. You can't be neighbors with them. You

636
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: can't like the only thing they want is to kill you.

637
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: So for me, what I see from understanding and studying

638
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: Arab culture and and my degree that I did in communications,

639
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: a degree in communications from community college, what I learned

640
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Speaker 3: about the Arab culture is when they go that far

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Speaker 3: to do whatever they do to you because you're Jewish,

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Speaker 3: because you live in Israel, because you're a Zionist doing

643
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Speaker 3: both know it's not the reason. The only real is

644
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Speaker 3: to just go back to be to live in Gos.

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Speaker 3: Go back the Palestinians that live in Gaza. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm very very sorry. Obviously, we don't want to kill

647
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Speaker 3: you all or these crazy things I'm hearing on social media.

648
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Speaker 3: Obviously not We're not barbarians. But it doesn't matter. There's

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Speaker 3: innocent people in Gaza. I believe in my heart. I

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Speaker 3: don't know for sure, but I believe they're innocent. People

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Speaker 3: Go to Egypt, go to Jordan, which is the Palestinian state,

652
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Speaker 3: Go to Jordan or wherever you need to go. But

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Speaker 3: we will not stay. We will not be neighbors with

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Speaker 3: terrorist organizations no more. After seventy five percent of Palestinians

655
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Speaker 3: inside Gaza supported what Hamas did on October seventh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to look for the twenty five percent

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Speaker 3: who didn't support. I'm going to take you all and

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Speaker 3: move you to a different location. Egypt got crazy amount

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Speaker 3: of surface you can live there. Won't stay neighbors with

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Speaker 3: you anymore. We thought we can, We thought we thought

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Speaker 3: we have somebody to talk to. After October seventh, after

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Speaker 3: those atrocities that we saw and we were witnessed, It's

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Speaker 3: not gonna happen. And the same thing goes to ju

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Speaker 3: Dan sam Area. If you don't want to be a

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Speaker 3: part of the Israeli state, you don't want to be

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Speaker 3: a part of the state of Israel, don't be here,

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Speaker 3: go to Jordan. There's no way we're gonna leave enemy

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Speaker 3: within our country. If you're not my enemy, perfect, take

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Speaker 3: your blue ID, pledge your allegiance to Israel and be

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Speaker 3: a citizen, not a second class citizen. Be a citizen.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to, don't stay here. Simple as that.

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Speaker 2: That's that's real shit. That's fucking real shit.

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Speaker 3: I think people need to understand that if you'll take

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Speaker 3: an alien right and try to explain to him what's

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Speaker 3: going on between Israel and Palestinians. One side, very we openly,

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Speaker 3: strongly want to have some sort of solution, if it's

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Speaker 3: two state solution, if it's whatever solution we're trying to

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Speaker 3: like come up in this situation. And the other side,

679
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: once you dead, simple as that, simple as that. I

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Speaker 3: know it's a horrible thing to say, but that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: They will say. We will not rest until Israel won't

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Speaker 3: exist anymore. And if you think they're gonna rest after that,

683
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Speaker 3: you're wrong. We're sadly mistaken. That's what people all over

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Speaker 3: the world don't understand. The problem is not Israel. The

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Speaker 3: problem is radical Islam that is going like crazy all

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Speaker 3: over the world. People think that if Israel won't exist,

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Speaker 3: that will solve all the world's problem. No, not at all,

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Speaker 3: because let's talk about before Israel, Before Israel was you know,

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Speaker 3: before the modern state of Israel were established, the world

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Speaker 3: was perfect. There were no wars going on, maybe not

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Speaker 3: so much as radical Islam. But the thing is, we

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Speaker 3: have one point eight I think billion Muslims in the

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Speaker 3: world right now, and by foreign intelligence they estimated between

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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty five percent of them are radicals. That's

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Speaker 3: around three to four hundred million. That's more the United States.

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Speaker 3: How many Jews you have, fifteen sixteen million. Take the

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Speaker 3: most radical Jew, you know, the most insane radical Jew.

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Speaker 3: You know you will never do anything like that, anything

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Speaker 3: like that. So to treat those nine million Jews that

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Speaker 3: live in Israel, it's like they are the problem is

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Speaker 3: completely and utterly insane. And that's the very definition of antisemtic.

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Speaker 3: To look at the world to see almost two billion

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Speaker 3: Muslims out of them almost four hundred million radicals and

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Speaker 3: be like, oh, those nine millions are the problem. That's

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Speaker 3: just fucking instinct.

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Speaker 2: Explain because also you know your opinion. Also you're you're

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Speaker 2: also educating. This is what when I was talking to you, like,

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Speaker 2: you study this shit, you talk about this shit, you

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Speaker 2: understand this. Explain the best you can between Muslims and

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Speaker 2: radical fundamentalists. Explain the difference, because when I talk about

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Speaker 2: the radical fundamentalists, I'm Islamophobic. You're racist. Break that down

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Speaker 2: to the best you can in basic third grade terms,

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Speaker 2: like you're talking to a third grader.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it's very very basic, very basic. Listen, Christianity, Judaism,

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Speaker 3: not radical Islam, the Islam as itself in the modern state.

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Speaker 3: They will not try to recruit anyone you want to

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Speaker 3: join our faith, prove to us that you really want.

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Speaker 3: That's the essence of religion. If you're going around recruiting

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Speaker 3: people for your religion, you're wrong. And that's why they

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Speaker 3: fucked up with the Crusaders. That's why Muhammad fucked up

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Speaker 3: when he tried to eliminate half of the world to

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Speaker 3: make the Muslims, Judaism. I don't know. If you know,

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Speaker 3: people know that.

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Speaker 5: If you want to be jew if you want to

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Speaker 5: be Jewish, right, they will put you through hell if

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Speaker 5: you want to be Jewish.

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Speaker 3: An ex girlfriend of mine, I want to convert to Judaism,

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Speaker 3: she told me this is fucking impossible. And that's the difference.

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Speaker 3: That's the difference. Islam as itself, the religion. They have

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Speaker 3: no problem coexist with other religions. You have Muslims, you

731
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Speaker 3: have Christians, you have Buddhists, you have Jews. Any religion

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Speaker 3: that have no problem coexist with other religion is fine

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Speaker 3: by me. The problem is the fundamentalist, the rotical fundamentalist.

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Speaker 3: They say, if you're not Muslim like us, you should

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Speaker 3: be dead. That's it. I'm not even talking about Jews,

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Speaker 3: or if you're not like us, you will be dead.

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Speaker 3: And that's racism. That's a lot of different things because

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Speaker 3: what they essentially say is what we think is right,

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Speaker 3: and if you don't think like me, you're not allowed

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Speaker 3: to you should be dead. And that's the difference.

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Speaker 6: Asist Jewish, forward thinkers, punk rock, hip hop, dreamers, outspoken, LGBTQ, anything.

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Speaker 3: That's not that exactly if you're not exactly like me.

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Speaker 3: That was icis. By the way, isis We're stopping our

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Speaker 3: people on the street, ask them to quote Versus from

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Speaker 3: the Quran. If they didn't quote them, they will kill them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about other Muslims. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 3: Jews or Americans. I'm talking about other Muslims. That's radical fundamentalism. Now.

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Speaker 3: The thing is that Islam, I'm sorry, right have the

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Speaker 3: most radical fundamentalists inside their religion, not even Christians, no Buddhists,

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Speaker 3: no Atheists, no Jews. So if you think about your

751
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Speaker 3: religion and you're saying to yourself, well, my religion produces

752
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Speaker 3: so many suicide bombers and so many terrorists, something is

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Speaker 3: wrong with my religion. And if something maybe something is

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Speaker 3: not wrong about my religion, something is wrong about the

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Speaker 3: understanding of other people of my religion. And if you

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Speaker 3: won't face that, if the heads of the Muslim community

757
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Speaker 3: won't face the problem that listen, we have a lot

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Speaker 3: of suicide bombers here. It's never gonna stop. Just like

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Speaker 3: if the heads of the you know, Christians want understand listen,

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Speaker 3: we have a problem with pedophilia. We need to see

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Speaker 3: what's going on here. How we can stop this, how

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Speaker 3: we can eradicate this same thing goes to Islam and

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Speaker 3: radical fundamentalists.

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Speaker 5: You have a problem. People fear Arabs, people fear Muslims.

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Speaker 5: This is a problem. So you can just scream, you know, Islamophobia.

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Speaker 5: Because I ask someone online. I asked them, I asked

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Speaker 5: them listen. I was like, listen, regardless of your opinion

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Speaker 5: about Israel.

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Speaker 3: Palestine, whatever, let me ask you something and be honest

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Speaker 3: with me and answer me this. You live in a

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Speaker 3: neighborhood in a nice neighborhood in the United States, right,

772
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: they live in a nice suburban neighborhood. You're good, and

773
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: they tell you listen last like next week, they're going

774
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Speaker 3: to move here. Five thousand people. Your choice, do you

775
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: want five thousand Jews or do you want five thousand Muslims?

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00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: What do you want in your neighborhood? Now, you tell

777
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Speaker 3: me and be honest, because five thousand Jews, what will happen.

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Speaker 3: What is the worst thing that will happen? A Kosher

779
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Speaker 3: grocery store? What is the worst thing that will happen?

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Speaker 3: Five thousand muslim are moving to your neighborhood. Look what

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00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: happened to Europe? That's all I'm gonna say about. You

782
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: can scream about Israel and Palestine till your lungs gave out.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, as a citizen of a Western country,

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Speaker 3: be brutally honest with yourself and tell me who would

785
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Speaker 3: you rather be neighbored to? Jews are Muslims? That's the

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Speaker 3: only thing I'm gonna ask.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matan Perettes, how can everybody find you on

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Speaker 2: Instagram TikTok and you.

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Speaker 3: Say Matian Perretz. Just write Matan Perret's Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook,

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Speaker 3: wherever you're gonna find me from. I'm shooting at all directions.

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Speaker 2: So can you give a message to the world? Can

792
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: you give a message to my listeners in Hebrew? Is

793
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: like talk some Hebrew ship because when you talk Hebrew,

794
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: it's to me it's funny, okay.

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Speaker 3: As the podcast, Michael dam I'm sucking and Lamu sag

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Speaker 3: Mamsipo and Musag mimed the brim and a shivral hai

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Speaker 3: bitches and my last.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was good? All right man, Yeah, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: This is awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I enjoyed myself so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Boom. I want to thank my guest Matime Peretz. You

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Speaker 1: should follow him on all his socials. Appreciate you coming on.

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