Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
Speaker 2: Nice to have you with us, and Senator you had
Speaker 2: a very interesting day spending some time with former President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and some of your colleagues, and I want
Speaker 2: to get your reaction to that.
Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: It is one twenty nine in the morning right now.
Speaker 4: I just landed back in Texas, so I'm back home.
Speaker 4: Always glad to be back home. But today I had
Speaker 4: lunch with President Trump. He came by and he had
Speaker 4: lunch with all the Republican senators. Before that, he met
Speaker 4: with all the Republican House members. I'm going to tell
Speaker 4: you about that lunch and and what all happened. Second,
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about a new Inspector General report
Speaker 4: from the Department of Homeland Security that blows the whistle
Speaker 4: that the Biden administration is not vetting the illegal immigrants
Speaker 4: they're releasing. They're not vetting them, and it's leading to
Speaker 4: what we saw just this week, terrorists being released in
Speaker 4: to this country who are preparing to commit major terrorist attack.
Speaker 3: We're going to address that as well.
Speaker 4: And finally, we're going to talk about what's going to
Speaker 4: happen with Hunter Biden, and in particular, Joe Biden has
Speaker 4: said that he will not pardon his son, but he
Speaker 4: has not committed that he will not commute the sentence.
Speaker 4: We're going to talk about what is likely what Biden
Speaker 4: is likely to do about his son, and we're going
Speaker 4: to get into that.
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Speaker 2: was a very interesting moment on Capitol Hill. Donald Trump
Speaker 2: came and met with a lot of the Republican leadership.
Speaker 2: A lot of your colleagues were there, and the initial
Speaker 2: reports that came out were saying it was a lot
Speaker 2: of enthusiasm and a lot of excitement from the Republican
Speaker 2: leaders that were there. You were in the room, tell
Speaker 2: us what was happening.
Speaker 3: So I was.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 3: Trump began the day by meeting with the House Republicans.
Speaker 3: I was not in that meeting.
Speaker 4: Some of the reports of that as that was a
Speaker 4: little bit wild and wooly, that got into all sorts
Speaker 4: of topics. But Trump came by the Senate to have
Speaker 4: lunch with us, and so we met at the National
Speaker 4: Republican Senatorial Committee which is like three blocks away from
Speaker 4: the Capitol, and Trump joined us for the lunch and
Speaker 4: it started. We're all sitting sitting in a room. It
Speaker 4: started with him talking for about oh, twenty twenty five minutes,
Speaker 4: and then we did a whole series of Q and
Speaker 4: A where probably about a dozen of us asked him
Speaker 4: questions and he commented on those. And then we went
Speaker 4: out and we did a press conference where we stood
Speaker 4: we all stood behind him, and he stood up and
Speaker 4: gave the press conference and listen, I gotta say the
Speaker 4: biggest thing about the lunch that struck me was the
Speaker 4: unity in the room. Look, the media likes to talk
Speaker 4: about divisions and the Republican Party, and there are certainly some,
Speaker 4: but today I didn't see any of that.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 4: Everyone in the room was focused on winning in November
Speaker 4: and turning the country around. And Trump was in great spirits.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the things I asked him after the meeting,
Speaker 4: I came up and spent a couple of minutes talking
Speaker 4: with him. I just asked, how are you doing? I mean,
Speaker 4: it's been this BS you're dealing with with these New
Speaker 4: York convictions, their utter garbage. But listen, it's not fun
Speaker 4: to be convicted of felonies. I mean, it's been he's
Speaker 4: been through hell, and so just as a personal level,
Speaker 4: I was asking him how he was doing, and he
Speaker 4: said he was doing fine, and it seemed real and genuine.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was not He was not down in
Speaker 4: the dumps. He was not discouraged. In fact, was he
Speaker 4: was really in good spirits. He was optimistic. And his
Speaker 4: message to everyone is listen, let's stand togetherize several things.
Speaker 4: Number one, he emphasize the border, that we've got to
Speaker 4: secure the border, that it is insane that we have
Speaker 4: open borders, that it's an invitation to terrorists.
Speaker 3: And he's exactly right.
Speaker 4: If and when Trump wins, we will secure the border
Speaker 4: in the first month or two of the next Trump administration.
Speaker 4: And I can say that because we know how to
Speaker 4: do it. We did it before, and we'll do it again.
Speaker 4: He also talked a lot about inflation and energy in particular,
Speaker 4: and he pointed out quite rightly that energy is foundational
Speaker 4: to inflation. One of the reasons that prices have gone
Speaker 4: up on just about everything is that energy prices of
Speaker 4: skyrocketed because the Biden administration has been waging war on
Speaker 4: American energy and we are an energy powerhouse where the
Speaker 4: number one producer of oil in the world, where the
Speaker 4: number one producer of natural gas in the world, and
Speaker 4: the Biden administration is doing everything they can to stifle that.
Speaker 4: And Trump was very clear that we're going to reverse that.
Speaker 4: We will reverse that fast early next year, and that's
Speaker 4: going to have a real impact on energy prices and
Speaker 4: inflation across the board. We also talked about national security
Speaker 4: and in particular how insane it is that the Biden
Speaker 4: administration has flowed one hundred billion dollars to Iran and
Speaker 4: if and when Trump wins, that's going to end as well.
Speaker 2: You mentioned a moment ago that there seemed to be
Speaker 2: unity in the room. That's incredibly important for getting legislation passed. Yes,
Speaker 2: and you need that, and we didn't have that type
Speaker 2: of unity. I would argue last time in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 2: early on, there was some splinters. There was somede divisiveness
Speaker 2: in the House that Senate side. What you seem to
Speaker 2: be describing this time is if Donald Trump is elected
Speaker 2: and Republicans have control of the House Senate, it's game
Speaker 2: on from the from January tecond there's not going to
Speaker 2: be you know, let's get to know each other time
Speaker 2: and have some meetings and maybe come over the White
Speaker 2: House like there's an agenda and it's ready to go
Speaker 2: for the American people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: And let me put it in broader context, which is,
Speaker 4: yesterday the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, came and
Speaker 4: had lunch with all the Republican senators. And by the way,
Speaker 4: that almost never happens. When Paul Ryan was speaker, he
Speaker 4: didn't do that. When John Bayner was Speaker, he didn't
Speaker 4: do that. When Kevin McCarthy was speaker, he didn't do that.
Speaker 4: Mike Johnson has done that this multiple times. This is
Speaker 4: either the third or fourth time he's come and had
Speaker 4: lunch with all the Senate Republicans.
Speaker 3: I think that's great. He was talking at lunch yesterday.
Speaker 4: He said, you know, it's amazing that the media treats
Speaker 4: it as a news story that the House and senator
Speaker 4: talking to each other. And the reason he came over
Speaker 4: and talked to us is is he said he's focused
Speaker 4: on his end, very much on developing the agenda and
Speaker 4: the plans to hit the ground running if and when
Speaker 4: we win in November, if we come in to January
Speaker 4: of next year with a Republican president, Republican Senate, Republican House.
Speaker 4: We got an enormous amount to accomplish. And the Speaker,
Speaker 4: to his credit, is very focused on the first one
Speaker 4: hundred days. What can we accomplish, what can we do
Speaker 4: to change the path of the country. I encouraged him
Speaker 4: to dig in on that. In fact, I shared with
Speaker 4: a speaker and with everyone else in the room. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of the senators that are there now were
Speaker 4: not there back in twenty seventeen when Trump first became president.
Speaker 4: You Know, the Speaker said, look, when Trump first became president,
Speaker 4: he was a freshman, he was brand new in the Congress,
Speaker 4: and he was amazed that the Congress was not prepared
Speaker 4: with a legislative agenda from day one. And he pointed
Speaker 4: out that he thought a lot of Republicans were surprised
Speaker 4: that Trump won. They were expecting Hillary to win, and
Speaker 4: so when the administration came in, they weren't ready for primetime.
Speaker 3: They didn't know what to do.
Speaker 4: In this instance, I'm very glad the Speaker is trying
Speaker 4: to think proactively. And I described I described something that
Speaker 4: I did back in the summer of twenty eighteen. So
Speaker 4: summer of twenty eighteen, we did a lunch with all
Speaker 4: the Senate Republicans and I prepared a PowerPoint. It was
Speaker 4: about fifty pages long, and I spoke to my colleagues
Speaker 4: probably the better part of an hour. And the title
Speaker 4: of the PowerPoint was carpe dim And what I did
Speaker 4: in the PowerPoint is I looked in the past, in
Speaker 4: previous instances when one party controlled the White House, the House,
Speaker 4: and the Senate. It happens pretty rarely. When the Democrats
Speaker 4: do it, they fundamentally transformed the country. So in the
Speaker 4: last century, the first time they did it, they passed
Speaker 4: the New Deal. The second time they did it, they
Speaker 4: passed the Great Society. The third time they did it,
Speaker 4: they passed Obamacare and Dodd Frank. And now for the
Speaker 4: last two years we've seen they've spent us into an
Speaker 4: absolute inflation and recession home. And on the other hand, Republicans,
Speaker 4: when we have unified control, we tend to do small
Speaker 4: and piddling things. So what I argued in the PowerPoint is,
Speaker 4: at the time I presented it was August of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 4: I said, listen, any rational political observer recognizes that there's
Speaker 4: a very real chance that we will lose at least
Speaker 4: one House of Congress in November. And I said to
Speaker 4: my colleagues, particularly the guys who were the sophomores, who
Speaker 4: were the people who had been elected two years earlier,
Speaker 4: and I said, look for you, guys, we have one
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty three days till the next Congress.
Speaker 3: For many of you.
Speaker 4: If we do not pass things now, you will never
Speaker 4: again have another chance to pass anything into law. And
Speaker 4: so I put together a spreadsheet. It was about fifty
Speaker 4: different bills. All of the bills had been written by
Speaker 4: different Republican senators. Some I had written, but most of
Speaker 4: them were my colleagues. And all of the bills were
Speaker 4: bills that had a reasonable prospect of garnering fifty one votes.
Speaker 4: They weren't fringe things that would get ten or twelve votes.
Speaker 4: They were all things that would easily get forty five
Speaker 4: Republicans and that had a real shot at getting fifty.
Speaker 4: And what I argued is, I said, listen, this is
Speaker 4: going to sound radical to you, Ben, we should do something,
Speaker 4: We should not do nothing. Amazingly enough, that argument proved unpersuasive.
Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell said well, so the principal avenue that if
Speaker 4: you look, the biggest legislative victory of the Trump years
Speaker 4: was the twenty seventeen tax cuts. We passed that using
Speaker 4: what's called budget reconciliation. Budget reconciliation is a process under
Speaker 4: a bill called the Budget Acted nineteen seventy five. The
Speaker 4: budget p is not terribly consequential. What's consequential is, under
Speaker 4: the terms of the statute, you have an up down
Speaker 4: vote at fifty votes and it can't be filibustered. So
Speaker 4: it's one of the most important exceptions to the filibuster
Speaker 4: we could have. If you look at the Democrats, they
Speaker 4: did three budget reconciliations. It's how they passed almost all
Speaker 4: of their agenda that put us in this hole. When
Speaker 4: the Republicans had the majority, we did only one budget reconciliation.
Speaker 4: We did not do a single one in twenty eighteen, which, frankly,
Speaker 4: ben is indefensible. And so I made the case of
Speaker 4: the Speaker and my colleagues, let's not make that mistake again.
Speaker 3: Let's hit the ground running.
Speaker 1: This seems different.
Speaker 2: And even when I say different, there's also a lot
Speaker 2: of people behind the scenes that are working on putting
Speaker 2: together a Trump administration and a government and learning from
Speaker 2: the mistakes that happened in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: How encouraged are you by that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had quite a few people I know
Speaker 2: that that I've talked to in many different areas of
Speaker 2: government who are saying, this just feels different.
Speaker 1: This time. We learned from our mistakes in sixteen.
Speaker 2: We learn from our inaction and people that we should
Speaker 2: have replaced and changed with conservative minds, and we've witnessed
Speaker 2: what happens when you do that. But this time it's
Speaker 2: going to be different. That may be the thing I'm
Speaker 2: the most excited about is if we had, like you mentioned,
Speaker 2: a House and Senate ready to go, but also many
Speaker 2: of the bureaucrats that have been changed out very quickly
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the plan.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen, I think Trump's winning surprised a lot
Speaker 4: of people. It surprised a lot of Republicans in the Senate,
Speaker 4: it surprised a lot of Republicans in the House. It
Speaker 4: frankly surprised the Trump campaign team, and I think it
Speaker 4: actually surprised Trump himself. On election Day, I think they
Speaker 4: were all a little bit startled that they had won
Speaker 4: and suddenly, holdly, cow, we're going to go do this now.
Speaker 4: And and so it resulted in when the administration came
Speaker 4: in in the beginning of twenty seventeen, in Congress, Republican
Speaker 4: leadership of the House and Senate was not prepared with
Speaker 4: an agenda because they had assumed Hillary was going to
Speaker 4: win and they didn't need one, and the White House
Speaker 4: did not have the experience to know how to drive
Speaker 4: an agenda. There was no first one hundred Days mission.
Speaker 4: And you're right, there's a whole series of nonprofits that
Speaker 4: are engaged in laying out specific plans for executive orders,
Speaker 4: for regulations, for legislation, and whether it is the America
Speaker 4: First Policy Institute or the Heritage Foundation or others. I
Speaker 4: think if and when Trump wins this November, we will
Speaker 4: hit January with a much much better level of preparation
Speaker 4: to make a lasting difference immediately.
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Speaker 2: something that really I think catapulted Trump to get the
Speaker 2: presidency in sixteen when he talked about building the damn wall,
Speaker 2: and it clicked with a lot of Americans. Now the President,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden the other day tried to help Mary and said,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna do some executive action here on
Speaker 2: the southern border. But a new poll reveals that Biden's
Speaker 2: border security move fails to set up five voters. As
Speaker 2: the crisis continues. In other words, the American people are saying,
Speaker 2: we're not taking the bait this time. We are seeing
Speaker 2: your executive order is pretty much worthless. It is not
Speaker 2: shutting down illegal crossings at the southern border. This on
Speaker 2: top of the fact that we have now people that
Speaker 2: are on the Terrace watch list and those connected isis
Speaker 2: K that crossed the southern border and got into this
Speaker 2: country that way, and then they let him go, and
Speaker 2: so now they've been arrested the last week, and then
Speaker 2: we got another warning center this week about we're not
Speaker 2: doing a good enough job betting the people that are
Speaker 2: coming across that we are catching.
Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly right. And listen, I think Democrats believe
Speaker 4: that the American people, the voters, are stupid and that
Speaker 4: they're easily deceived by an announcement that Biden's got an
Speaker 4: executive order to secure the border good, the problems fixed.
Speaker 4: I don't think the voters are stupid. I think they've
Speaker 4: got an enormous amount of common sense. And at this point,
Speaker 4: anyone who's paying attention even a tiny bit knows that
Speaker 4: this invasion at our southern border is deliberate. It's what
Speaker 4: the Democrats want, It's what Joe Biden wants, it's what's
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris wants, it's what every Democrat in the Senate,
Speaker 4: in the House wants. I think people get that, and
Speaker 4: that's one of the challenges the Biden campaigns trying to
Speaker 4: deceive them and saying no, no, no, no, it's not Biden.
Speaker 4: He's trying to fix it. I don't think people are
Speaker 4: going to buy that. But as you noted, just an
Speaker 4: additional piece of evidence that's really quite compelling and quite
Speaker 4: concerning is that there's a brand new report that came
Speaker 4: out this week from the Inspector General of the Department
Speaker 4: of Homeland Security, and the DHS Inspector General concludes number one,
Speaker 4: that DHS has not been a effectively screening non citizens
Speaker 4: and asylum seekers. Number two that CBP can't access all
Speaker 4: federal data to complete thorough screening and vetting. And number three,
Speaker 4: the DHS Inspector General in the Biden administration concluded as
Speaker 4: following quote, DHS will remain at risk of admitting dangerous
Speaker 4: persons into the country or enabling asylum seekers who may
Speaker 4: post significant threats to public safety and national security to
Speaker 4: continue to reside in the United States end quote until
Speaker 4: these challenges are addressed. This is a bombshell report from
Speaker 4: the Inspector General and so of course the corporate media
Speaker 4: is ignoring it altogether.
Speaker 2: You look at this, there's so many warnings, and we've
Speaker 2: seen the FBI give their warnings that the director there
Speaker 2: has given his warnings and he says that it is
Speaker 2: a very concerning and real national security threat of the
Speaker 2: open southern border. You then put this combined with ISIS
Speaker 2: and what you just talked about, and you have to
Speaker 2: ask yourself the question who is to blame for being
Speaker 2: asleep at the wheel here or is it just Democrats say, Look,
Speaker 2: we're willing to sacrifice some Americans, some of you are
Speaker 2: going to die in a terrorist attack one day, but
Speaker 2: we got in twenty million illegal immigrants and.
Speaker 1: That was worth it for us.
Speaker 2: How do you look at this subject now knowing these
Speaker 2: warnings are coming now from people I think inside of
Speaker 2: our government under Biden, who are trying to cover the
Speaker 2: rear ends.
Speaker 4: Well, Listen in terms of Washington Democrats, the Democrats in
Speaker 4: the Senate of the House, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: and the executive branch ben To be honest, I don't
Speaker 4: think they give a damn. I have seen no evidence.
Speaker 1: That's my worry.
Speaker 2: It's like it's almost like it's, well, it's the price
Speaker 2: that we're willing to pay. We're willing to sacrifice safety, security,
Speaker 2: and in reality, if you compare it to what isis
Speaker 2: K did in Russia, American lives to get what we
Speaker 2: ultimately what we want, which is a new voting block.
Speaker 4: Look, I think the Democrats right now in Congress are
Speaker 4: incredibly cynical and the only thing they're focused on is
Speaker 4: what will keep them in power, what will ensure that
Speaker 4: they're more and more and more and more Democrat voters.
Speaker 4: And I think they look at the eleven million people
Speaker 4: they've allowed into this country illegally and they view them
Speaker 4: all as future Democrat voters. Now, some of them, I
Speaker 4: think they are counting on voting illegally this election, and
Speaker 4: the rest of them, I think they're counting on voting
Speaker 4: legally once a Democrat administration gets into office and grants
Speaker 4: them amnesty. And so I think from their view, they
Speaker 4: are fundamentally remaking the demographics of this country and they're
Speaker 4: trying to remake it in a way that ensures that
Speaker 4: Democrats remain in power forever. And the thing that is
Speaker 4: tragic is they're more than happy. The Democrats are more
Speaker 4: than happy to look the other way if the people die,
Speaker 4: at the people dying crossing the border day after day
Speaker 4: after day, the migrants dying, They're perfectly happy to look
Speaker 4: the other way. At the children being brutalized. They're perfectly
Speaker 4: happy to look the other way at the women being
Speaker 4: repeatedly sexually assaulted. They're perfectly happy to look away at
Speaker 4: all of the victims of crime we've seen all across
Speaker 4: the country from illegal aliens that the Biden administration is released,
Speaker 4: and most inexplicably, they have to date been perfectly happy
Speaker 4: to look the other way at the growing and deeply
Speaker 4: troubling risk of a major terrorist attack in the United
Speaker 4: States from illegal aliens that the Biden administration is released
Speaker 4: among us.
Speaker 2: During your time serving in the Senate, have you ever
Speaker 2: seen this many warnings on a national security issue? Now
Speaker 2: come before you, guys publicly, because it's not just like
Speaker 2: one person as a whistleblower. You're talking about the head
Speaker 2: of the FBI, You're now talking about the DHA Inspector General.
Speaker 2: You're talking about others with a Department of Home and Security,
Speaker 2: border patrol agents, the Border Union. I mean, they're all
Speaker 2: singing now the same tune. Which is we're sitting on
Speaker 2: a time bomb.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the facts have gotten so overwhelming that
Speaker 4: they had no choice. If you look at Christopher Ray,
Speaker 4: who is the head of the FBI, he has testified
Speaker 4: now repeatedly in front of Congress, and he said there
Speaker 4: is an enormous risk of a terrorist attack in the
Speaker 4: United States. It is from our southern border. We are
Speaker 4: all vulnerable, and we've got to step up and fight
Speaker 4: back on this. As you know, I know Chris Ray
Speaker 4: very very well. We both clerked for the same Court
Speaker 4: of Appeals judge. I've known Chris Ray for thirty years.
Speaker 4: I think he's a good man. Interestingly enough, he's not
Speaker 4: a Democrat. I think he fully considers himself a Republican.
Speaker 4: And my fault with Chris Ray, which I've articulated multiple times,
Speaker 4: is that I think he's a company man. I think
Speaker 4: his view of his job as the FBI director is
Speaker 4: to defend the career employees at the FBI, to circle
Speaker 4: the wagons around the senior leadership. And that might in
Speaker 4: an ordinary circumstance make sense, but it doesn't make sense
Speaker 4: here when you have hardcore partisans who have burrowed into
Speaker 4: senior leadership. Positions and who are corrupting the integrity of
Speaker 4: the FBI. That being said, Chris Ray keeps going to
Speaker 4: Congress and saying people, the risk of a terrorist attack
Speaker 4: is enormous. He's trying to ring the bell because he's
Speaker 4: looking at the intel. Look, let me read you from
Speaker 4: just the opening page of the report from the Inspector
Speaker 4: General at the Department Homeland Security. It says, quote what
Speaker 4: we found the Department of Homeland Securities technology procedures and coordination,
Speaker 4: we're not fully effective to screen and vet non citizens
Speaker 4: applying for admission into the United States or asylum seekers
Speaker 4: whose asylum applications were pending for an extended period. Although
Speaker 4: US Customs and Border Protection deployed new technologies to enhance
Speaker 4: traveler screening, it could not access all federal data necessary
Speaker 4: to ensure complete screening and vetting of non citizens seeking
Speaker 4: admission to the United States. In addition, CBP used varied
Speaker 4: and sometimes inconsistent inspection procedures for travelers arriving in vehicles
Speaker 4: at land ports of entry. Finally, CBP does not have
Speaker 4: the technology to perform biometric matching on travelers arriving in
Speaker 4: vehicles at land ports of entry. Once a non citizen
Speaker 4: files an asylum application. US Citizenship and Immigration Services conducts
Speaker 4: screening and vetting to verify each asylum applicants' identity and
Speaker 4: determine their ability. However, USCIS did not always complete timely
Speaker 4: screenings for more than four hundred thousand affirmative asylum app
Speaker 4: applicants who filed for asylum between October twenty seventeen and
Speaker 4: March twenty twenty three, four hundred thousand. Additionally, USCIS does
Speaker 4: not have a dedicated procedure or comprehensive technology solution to
Speaker 4: perform interim screening of asylum applicants whose cases were not
Speaker 4: adjudicated within the required one hundred and eighty day timeframe.
Speaker 2: So you look at all of that, and it reminds
Speaker 2: me so much of nine to eleven, when we found
Speaker 2: out afterwards, Yes, everybody wasn't talking to each other, the
Speaker 2: FBI and the CIA weren't talking to another, and so
Speaker 2: things were falling through the cracks. Except this time they're
Speaker 2: all saying, are falling through the cracks before the attack,
Speaker 2: not after. Is there any chance that we can get
Speaker 2: this together quickly enough to fix it before it's too eight?
Speaker 2: Or is this just now an administration's decision of hey,
Speaker 2: we know what we're doing here, we know the risk,
Speaker 2: and we're okay with it.
Speaker 4: I think there's no chance with this administration. Look look
Speaker 4: Joe Biden. It is terrifying. Joe Biden is utterly absent.
Speaker 4: He is not competent to do the job.
Speaker 3: He's in.
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris is a dumpster fire. Alejandro Majorcas is brazenly
Speaker 4: defying the law and is in fact presiding over the
Speaker 4: criminal invasion of this country. Merrick Garland is so politicized
Speaker 4: the Department of Justice is not going to do anything.
Speaker 4: I do not believe these individuals will change their behavior.
Speaker 4: They've made the devil's bargain that they will destroy our
Speaker 4: country in order to let enough illegal immigrants into this
Speaker 4: country to ensure they stay in power. And so I
Speaker 4: think the only only only answer is for Republicans to
Speaker 4: win in November, for Trump to win reelection, and for
Speaker 4: us to win the Senate in the House.
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Speaker 2: a moment ago you mentioned the President, you said you
Speaker 2: think he is at this point clearly incompetent. He is
Speaker 2: a guy that is his own just department said he
Speaker 2: couldn't stand trial. He thinks he would be incompetence trial.
Speaker 2: We've seen several videos come out over the last couple
Speaker 2: of days of the President looking clearly like he's lost
Speaker 2: at events, not knowing what's going on, and slurring his words.
Speaker 2: But there does seem to be one issue that he's
Speaker 2: still very much honed in on, and that is the
Speaker 2: number one issue of taken care of his son, Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has claimed he's not going to give a
Speaker 2: pardon to his son, but we also know that Joe
Speaker 2: Biden in the White House is very much getting the
Speaker 2: idea out there. So people will, I guess, be okay
Speaker 2: with it that he may commute his son Hunter sentence.
Speaker 2: The question is will be smart enough to do this
Speaker 2: after election day? And is it even a bigger possibility
Speaker 2: that he may just be flat out lying and he's
Speaker 2: going to just straight up pardon him.
Speaker 4: Well, look, the odds are significant. I believe that Joe
Speaker 4: Biden pardons his son, and I think it all hinges
Speaker 4: on what happens in November. I think if Joe Biden loses,
Speaker 4: then he will pardon Hunter. In November December, he will
Speaker 4: pardon Hunter before leaving. If Joe Biden wins, it gets
Speaker 4: more complicated. I think he will want a pardon Hunter.
Speaker 4: But if he's starting a second term and he's got
Speaker 4: four years to go, I think his political team will
Speaker 4: be terrified that pardoning Hunter, especially after you promised the
Speaker 4: American people you would not, would do irreparable damage to him.
Speaker 4: And so what I think is likely is if he wins,
Speaker 4: instead of pardoning Hunter, that he will commute the sentence.
Speaker 4: Commuting the sentence basically says, Okay, no more jail time
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: You can go.
Speaker 4: You're still a felon, You're still a convicted felon, you
Speaker 4: still have many of the detriments of being a felon,
Speaker 4: but you're wearing a bulletproof vest, so it is at
Speaker 4: least much much harder to kill you. I think the
Speaker 4: two options are Biden loses, he pardons Hunter. Biden wins,
Speaker 4: he commutes Hunter's sentence and lets him go from jail.
Speaker 2: You look at the White House, and what you said
Speaker 2: would directly contradict what the White House has said. The
Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Jean Pierre saying this second one
Speaker 2: with a cousin.
Speaker 1: Pardon or commute his son if he's convicted. So I've
Speaker 1: answered this question before.
Speaker 5: It was asked of me not too long ago, a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, and I was very clear and
Speaker 5: I said no.
Speaker 2: I mean she didn't just say pardon. She also said
Speaker 2: commute the sentence. The president will not do it. No,
Speaker 2: And I guess that's a smart political answer going into
Speaker 2: November and then after you win, who cares?
Speaker 1: Right you?
Speaker 2: Why to the American people on quote having a secure
Speaker 2: border when they know they're what you're lying to. You'll
Speaker 2: look at him in the face. You tell him Bidnomics
Speaker 2: is working with every American turning. You tell people the
Speaker 2: economy is strong and great right now, when it's clearly not.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the lies that they tell every
Speaker 2: single day, so why not lie on this one?
Speaker 4: Well and listen, Kareeine Jean Pierre does that every day.
Speaker 4: We have detailed at great lengths the deliberate lies she
Speaker 4: has told for the White House Briefing room. The one
Speaker 4: that is still the most galling is when she stood
Speaker 4: up there and said, you know, people are not just
Speaker 4: walking across our border. That's not happening, and that is
Speaker 4: such a brazen lie. You'll recall on this podcast. I
Speaker 4: invited to take Kareeine down to the border any day
Speaker 4: of the week and we would go out on patrol
Speaker 4: and we would find illegals crossing day after day after day.
Speaker 4: That's how we got to eleven million illegals. She did
Speaker 4: not take me up on that invitation, but I will
Speaker 4: tell you multiple times over the last two years she's
Speaker 4: gotten in arguments with this podcast, with points you and
Speaker 4: I have made on the podcast that she's been forced
Speaker 4: to stand up at the White House Press briefing and defense.
Speaker 4: And actually one of our good friends, Kaylie Mcanany on Fox,
Speaker 4: has put together a compilation of Kareem John Pierre's repeated
Speaker 4: flip flops and repeated lies.
Speaker 7: Take a listen, Hunter Biden, I want you to watch
Speaker 7: this closely because I'm very confused. Kareem John Pierre was
Speaker 7: asked her Eagagle yesterday if President Biden would commute Tunner sentence.
Speaker 7: We know he said he would impart him. Would he
Speaker 7: commute it? She answered very differently than she did on
Speaker 7: September fifteenth, twenty twenty three. Watched the two answers.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that the President I am not
Speaker 5: spoken to the President about this, And what I'm saying
Speaker 5: is he was asked about a pardon, he was asked
Speaker 5: about he was asked about the trial specifically, and he
Speaker 5: answered it very clearly, very forthright. As we know the sentence.
Speaker 5: He hasn't even been scheduled yet. I don't have anything beyond.
Speaker 4: What the President said. He spent very clear about this.
Speaker 8: Checond one with the president or commute his son if
Speaker 8: he's convicted.
Speaker 1: I've answered this question before.
Speaker 5: It was asked of me not too long ago, a
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, and I was very clear and
Speaker 5: I said.
Speaker 7: No, that's confusing.
Speaker 1: That's a change. Yes it is.
Speaker 8: I think she's clearly leaving the door open for America
Speaker 8: to accept, frankly, a commutation inevitably, which who would be
Speaker 8: surprised given the person at the helm. You were making
Speaker 8: some great points of it, Hunter, I want to just
Speaker 8: give you some space to make them too.
Speaker 6: I just think that their real risk here is that
Speaker 6: he is a vulnerability if he were to be facing
Speaker 6: jail and flip and I know that's people. Oh my god,
Speaker 6: he'd never flip me. If you read the text messages
Speaker 6: and some of the stuff that's in evidence already in
Speaker 6: the cases he's facing. There's no love loss between Hunter
Speaker 6: and some of the members of the Biden family. Let's
Speaker 6: just put it this way. He's not on the same
Speaker 6: page with Jill. He's got issues with the uncle. I
Speaker 6: think the uncle is actually the one that's the most vulnerable,
Speaker 6: particularly in the area of the Chinese money. They can't
Speaker 6: afford to have him turn hostile. And that's why once
Speaker 6: his legal troubles conquered, all of a sudden, he's at
Speaker 6: the White House, he's on the plane he's going to do,
Speaker 6: you know, with on trips with Joe Biden, keeping.
Speaker 1: Him close by the way.
Speaker 2: One thing there that I do want to ask your
Speaker 2: opinion of, there was some criticism of Joe Biden flying
Speaker 2: back and forth to the trial. They were holding hands,
Speaker 2: walking in and out of the courtroom, and coming back
Speaker 2: from overseas to make appearances.
Speaker 1: The point that was made there about.
Speaker 2: The liability, like, hey, we got to keep him close
Speaker 2: because if we're not sure he could even handle Jawn.
Speaker 2: If he did, then what could happen to the other
Speaker 2: family members. It's a very interesting perspective and point, especially
Speaker 2: if you go back and read some of the things
Speaker 2: that he has said and written in his own words.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to say I don't actually agree with
Speaker 4: the criticism of Joe Biden on this. She's his mom.
Speaker 4: Her son is facing multiple felony counts. He's now been
Speaker 4: convicted of multiple felonies. Her son has had a very
Speaker 4: troubled life, has had enormous substance abuse problems. I am
Speaker 4: never going to faul to a mom for loving her son,
Speaker 4: and so the fact that she came back to be
Speaker 4: with him in the trial, Look, that's part of being
Speaker 4: a mom.
Speaker 1: Fair point, Senator. I appreciate it.
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