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Speaker 1: There's an app for that. Christy Gnoam in the Homeland

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Speaker 1: Security Department converts a Biden Team app meant to help

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Speaker 1: to self deport and it just may work. Less than

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Speaker 1: two weeks after starting that argument in the Oval Office,

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski is now in Saudi Arabia the

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Speaker 1: there are reports that he even sent an apology letter

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Speaker 1: massive cyber attack on the ex social media platform. What's

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Speaker 1: the hackers beef this time? Do they hate Elon? Free

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Speaker 2: Welcome to American Sunrise Early Edition, the show where faith, freedom,

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Speaker 2: and the values that built this nation takes centers.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in a good Tuesday morning. This is American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak, and it's almost spring. Let's

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Speaker 1: cling to that, all right. Joining me now to talk

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Speaker 1: about what is a very busy newsday as usual is

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Speaker 1: Substack Eduard and Neurette Eduardo. We've got investors freaking out

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Speaker 3: I think this is complete over speculation by Wall Street

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Speaker 3: Is overspeculating on something that hasn't even happened yet. And

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Speaker 3: this really predates Trump. This overspeculation, I think has been

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Speaker 3: what you see is them reacting to a doomsday scenario

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Speaker 3: But we're not even there yet, and I think all

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Speaker 4: And what does he mean by that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think if you go back to several American

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Speaker 1: American Sunrise Early Edition is coming right back. That's a

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Speaker 1: live shot of Atlanta, Georgia right now. I guess they're

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Speaker 1: a little west of New York City because we're a

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Speaker 1: little brighter right now so far, so I guess they're

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Speaker 1: a little bit further behind in the Sunrise. I'm Jake Novak.

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Speaker 1: This is American Sunrise Early Edition. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at where the markets will begin today.

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Speaker 1: After that nine hundred point route for the Dow yesterday,

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Speaker 1: very small rebound, less than ten percent. Even we're looking

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Speaker 1: at an eighty one point gain at the Dow right now.

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Speaker 1: I do like that crude oil price sol though it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit higher than it was yesterday, but anything

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Speaker 1: under seventy is good for American consumers at sixty six

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Speaker 1: points and sixty seven cents. Let's look at Bitcoin because

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Speaker 1: that is having a little bit of a better rebound

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Speaker 1: right now. Bitcoin is looking at a three and a

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Speaker 1: half percent rebent up to the eighty eighty one thousand

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Speaker 1: dollar marks, so that's interesting. Of course, Hey, folks, the

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Speaker 1: stocks are for the most part, that have been down

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Speaker 1: the last few days, maybe ten days or so. These

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Speaker 1: are the same stocks that have really enjoyed a tremendous

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Speaker 1: run up over the last ten years, not just the

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Speaker 1: Trump years, not just the Biden years, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the Obama years as well. They've been on a major,

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Speaker 1: major run up for the most part since twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: so really like fourteen years. So it's important to note

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Speaker 1: that this selloff the last ten days or so is

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Speaker 1: it a pittance compared to where they've gone A good

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Speaker 1: deal of the air. By the way, as I've been

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Speaker 1: saying for a long time. This isn't just about tariffs,

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Speaker 1: This isn't just about recession fear. Is a good deal

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Speaker 1: of the air is coming out of the AI sector too. Again.

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Speaker 1: AI is here, it's a real deal. It's very valuable,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of investors have been waking up to

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Speaker 1: the fact that they've been putting too much money into it.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who remember the dot com bomb,

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Speaker 1: the Internet is massive. It's a huge, multi trillion dollar

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Speaker 1: business and industry, of course, but do you guys remember

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Speaker 1: about how about nine of the ten Internet companies that

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Speaker 1: emerged in ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand and

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Speaker 1: ended up crashing. And that's what we could start seeing

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Speaker 1: with some of these AI investments. That is when this

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Speaker 1: downturn started a few weeks ago, not with the tariffs,

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Speaker 1: not with recession fears. But by the way, something I

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Speaker 1: want to pledge to you, You're not going to catch

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Speaker 1: me putting lipstick on a pig if we really do

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Speaker 1: go into a recession or a true bear market. But

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Speaker 1: Financial News I did it for twenty years. I was

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Speaker 1: at CNBC, I was at Fox Business. I know what

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Speaker 1: a downturn really is. We're not there yet. But if

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Speaker 1: we do get there, I'm not going to pretend that

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Speaker 1: we're not there. That's a very ugly look. It also

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Speaker 1: really seems to ignore people who are really going through

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Speaker 1: some hard times. But right now Main Street is not

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Speaker 1: panicking the way Wall Street is. That's where we are

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Speaker 1: right now. Stay tuned for any new developments on that,

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Speaker 1: all right. Elon Musk says a cyber attack that took

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Speaker 1: the social media platform x down. He used to be

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. It was down for some time yesterday. He

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Speaker 1: says it originated from some ISP addresses from Ukraine. Now

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean necessarily that the Ukrainians of the Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: government were behind the cyber attack, but this comes as

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Speaker 1: Musk is also saying that his businesses all over the

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Speaker 1: world are be getting more difficult to handle because of

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Speaker 1: all the attacks. This is where we are in America

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Speaker 1: and in some parts of the world. If you want

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Speaker 1: to have a substance of debate about Elon Musk, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get politically angry about him, then go

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Speaker 1: vote for someone who promises to do something about it,

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Speaker 1: or do an online debate. But people are trashing Tesla dealerships,

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Speaker 1: setting them on fire someone's going to die in one

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Speaker 1: of these things, God forbid, but you know it might happen,

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Speaker 1: and else's you know, other people are going to get hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's not the way we do things. And we wonder

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Speaker 1: why high achieving people in the private sector don't go

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Speaker 1: into the government. You can imagine if they're doing this

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Speaker 1: to Elon Musk what they would do to somebody like

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Speaker 1: you and me. All right, don't look now, but we

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Speaker 1: could be headed for another government shutdown in four days.

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Speaker 1: The best chance to avert that is a ninety nine

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Speaker 1: page bill put forth last weekend by House Speaker Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 1: It would have averted a shutdown until September, but it

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Speaker 1: would also be paired with some increased spending on some

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Speaker 1: Republican priorities like defense and immigration, alongside some cuts elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: But not even all the Republicans in the House are

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Speaker 1: behind the plan. Yet, don't panic. Some of the most

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Speaker 1: nervous economic folks out there are saying there's still a

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Speaker 1: thirty percent, just a thirty percent chance of a shutdown.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that goes up in the next few days.

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Speaker 1: I'll take those odds. We haven't had a shutdown in

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Speaker 1: a while I think that Congress and Mike Johnson will

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Speaker 1: probably work something out. But we'll see. Stay tuned to

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Speaker 1: this show and all the other shows on Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice over the next few days to see if this

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Speaker 1: happens all right. I don't think there's any more cutthroat

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Speaker 1: industry right now anywhere in the world than the injectable

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Speaker 1: weight loss business. If you haven't heard about this and

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Speaker 1: how cutthroat it is, here's a new example. Novo Nordisk.

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Speaker 1: That's the company in Denmark that makes ozembic and we

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Speaker 1: go v. You see those commercials over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I know you know about these drugs. Now, Novo Nordisk

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Speaker 1: has been developing a new drug. It hopes to be

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Speaker 1: a next generation drug with fewer side effects and easier

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Speaker 1: to take. It's called cagri Semra, and the company was

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Speaker 1: shooting for an average of twenty five percent weight loss.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of weight for people. Twenty five percent

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Speaker 1: weight loss for people over about eighteen months with this drug. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the company reported the average was more like sixteen percent

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Speaker 1: in their group of people taking the drugs as a trial.

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Speaker 1: The shares went down by nine percent on the news.

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Speaker 1: They really punished the stock because only sixteen percent of

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Speaker 1: their weight. I mean, imagine you're two hundred pounds right now,

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Speaker 1: you lose sixteen percent every weight that's thirty two pounds

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Speaker 1: all the way down to one sixty eight. That's pretty

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Speaker 1: darn good, not good enough for the investors on Wall Street. Hey,

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Speaker 1: maybe Novo Nordisks should put patients on whatever drug the

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Speaker 1: stock is on when it gets trimmed down. That fest

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Speaker 1: all right, just kidding, But honestly, these drugs have a

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Speaker 1: very very high bar. There's a tremendous amount of competition.

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Speaker 1: And you know, look that I'm not even talking about

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Speaker 1: all the side effects right now and how you can

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Speaker 1: never get off these drug ugs. They're very, very troublesome

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Speaker 1: to me. But right now Wall Street loves them. That

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Speaker 1: only loves the ones that are that are at the

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Speaker 1: top of the heat. Very very vicious competition right now.

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Speaker 1: And you know that some of these drug companies are

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Speaker 1: going to start to cut corners when the competition is

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Speaker 1: that fierce. So I'm even more worried about this now.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know why all of you aren't teaching

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Speaker 1: at Harvard University right now because you're too smart And

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Speaker 1: I mean that literally. However, there's another reason. Now Harvard

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Speaker 1: is putting a hiring freeze in response to an expected

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Speaker 1: funding cut from the Trump administration. And that's after the

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Speaker 1: Trump team did indeed pull four hundred million dollars worth

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Speaker 1: of government money to Columbia at the end of last week. Now,

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Speaker 1: this could really just be a strategic financial move by Harvard.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're making the right move financially, but it's more

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Speaker 1: likely an act of political hyperbole to encourage some of

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Speaker 1: their donors to fork up some more money, or just

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Speaker 1: to increase rage against President Trump from its corners of

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Speaker 1: the ideological world. That seems like a good use of

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Speaker 1: their time. Veritas. All right, Control room, Let's take a ride.

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Speaker 1: Toyota's RAB for suv is just about the most popular

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Speaker 1: vehicle in America these days. It may have outsold the

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Speaker 1: F one fifty last year. We're still going through the numbers,

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Speaker 1: by the way. But supplies are in jeopardy now because

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Speaker 1: but we just now learned that Toyota is suspending production

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Speaker 1: in the RAB four indefinitely because of it. The good

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Speaker 1: news is that the stoppage may only last a couple

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Speaker 1: of days. That is a popular car.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I told you all not to give up on love

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Speaker 1: just because Honda broke up with Nissan and ended their

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Speaker 1: plans for a merger deal last month. I told you,

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Speaker 1: and it turns out I was right. Several reports say

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Speaker 1: that if Nissan does oust its current CEO, Makata Uchieda,

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Speaker 1: or if he steps down, Honda may renew merger talks. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's just like the time I agreed to get rid

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Speaker 1: of my long sideburns and my ex girlfriend got back

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Speaker 1: together with me, and as she ended up getting go

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Speaker 1: back together with some guy from Bayonne. But hey, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: This can get complicated. Romance is complicated though our corporate mergers.

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Speaker 1: But what isn't complicated is the fact that Nissan definitely

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Speaker 1: needs to be bought by someone else or get a

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Speaker 1: major outside investor or that company is not likely to survive.

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Speaker 1: It's got some good cars. I'd hate to see it go.

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Speaker 1: But they're in trouble all right. Ford is making an

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Speaker 1: increasingly big bet on Germany. The company announced an additional

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Speaker 1: five billion dollar investment in its German operations, largely for

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Speaker 1: its plant in Cologne, Germany. A big part of Ford's

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Speaker 1: business in Germany and the rest of Europe is in

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Speaker 1: commercial trucks, but Ford is also putting a lot of

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Speaker 1: money into boosting its ev fleet overseas a Ford SUVs

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Speaker 1: and trucks to stick with that. But anyway, Ford is

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Speaker 1: about trucks. Can someone tell me in the chat, in

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Speaker 1: the Ghetter chat what the German word for truck is.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know, all right, I already know the

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Speaker 1: German word to describe this video you're about to see.

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Speaker 1: And it's totally veenersh And it's a twenty five year

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Speaker 1: old man took his US Subaru out back to a

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Speaker 1: CarMax dealership and in with California Saturday cops say he

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Speaker 1: became enraged at the offer the dealer made for his

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Speaker 1: front of the dealership. All right, it's not all funny.

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Speaker 1: Eight people were injured. Not seriously. This is kinds of stories.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they're getting more common. It feels like

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Speaker 1: someone's driving into a dealership window every day. The emotions

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Speaker 1: connected to buying and selling cars are real people. The driver,

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Speaker 1: by the way, after this actually just drove himself to

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Speaker 1: an laped station and turned himself in. Well, at least

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Speaker 1: he's courteous. Geez, my goodness, all right, coming up. Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: President Zelenski is in Saudi Arabia already now for what

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Speaker 1: looks like some serious peace talks with Russian envoys. And

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Speaker 1: some bigg and American names are there as well. Oh

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Speaker 1: and he wrote an interesting letter a few days ago.

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Speaker 1: If you'll want to know about that, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: about it. And something like five percent, just five percent

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Speaker 1: of American voters support pro hamas chaos agents on campus.

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Speaker 1: So naturally New York's Attorney General Edition James sides with

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Speaker 1: one of those five percenters. Maybe she has a math deficiency.

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Speaker 1: I'll the latest when American Sunrise early edition comes. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, March eleventh. Here are some of this morning's

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Speaker 1: top stories. The markets are bleeding as investors are dealing

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Speaker 1: with worries about recession tariffs. Own by the way, there's

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Speaker 1: a bubble in AI. But will this change President Trump's

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Speaker 1: mind about his economic or political policies. Less than two

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Speaker 1: weeks after starting that argument in the Oval Office, Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: President Letimmessilinski is now in Saudi Arabia for actual peace

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Speaker 1: talks to end the war with Russia, and there are

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Speaker 1: reports that he even sent an apology letter to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: New York State Attorney General Letitia James is going to

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Speaker 1: bat for a student protest and civil rights violator at

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Speaker 1: Columbia University. Sounds about par for the course, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: But now she has a judge at least partially on

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Speaker 1: her side, and there's an app for that at Christy

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Speaker 1: Nome and the Homeland Security Department have converted a Biden

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Speaker 1: app that was meant to help illegal immigrants game the

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Speaker 1: system illegal aliens, i should say, And now he's changed

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Speaker 1: She's changed it into one that allows them to self

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Speaker 1: deport and it just might work. American Sunrise Early Edition continues. Now,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm Jake Novak. This is American Sunrise Early Edition.

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Speaker 1: And joining me now is former top Senate staffer and

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Speaker 1: the chief of the Bramer Group, Don Bramer and Don.

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Speaker 1: It kind of feels like a whole new ballgame now

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Speaker 1: that Ukrainian President Zelenski is actually in Saudi Arabia for

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Speaker 1: these peace talks, and apparently he sent an apology letter

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Speaker 1: to President Trump. Should we be optimistic here? Is this

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Speaker 1: war gonna end? And are we going to get some

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Speaker 1: kind of new leadership maybe even in Ukraine were.

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Jake.

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Speaker 8: You know, the first sign that we saw where Zelenski

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Speaker 8: was really backtracking his behavior at the Oval office was

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Speaker 8: the day after you know, he he knew he had

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Speaker 8: made a mistake. The Senate in the US had kind

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Speaker 8: of criticized him, and even the NATO and ambassador was like,

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Speaker 8: you know, hey, this is not the way it should

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Speaker 8: have played out. So he's been backtracking ever since. But

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Speaker 8: everyone knows from the past administration, you know, the key

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Speaker 8: to President Trump has sent that letter, put it in writing,

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Speaker 8: and that's what he did here. He sent the letter.

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Speaker 8: Now we've got the Rubio, Mike Waltz all there in

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Speaker 8: as Saulty Abia, and I think they're going to sit

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Speaker 8: down on the table. But at this point, you know,

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Speaker 8: is the mineral deal enough. President Trump said just a

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Speaker 8: few days ago that you know, Zelensky has to prove

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Speaker 8: that he wants peace sitting at the table.

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Speaker 7: They're going to go back and forth.

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Speaker 8: Rubio is doing the old card salesman trip where he'll

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Speaker 8: go to one side Zelensky.

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Speaker 7: What do you want? What's your bottom line? He'll go

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Speaker 7: to Russia to do this.

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Speaker 1: We lost the zudi, all right, Tom, we got lost

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Speaker 1: your bite, Your mic dead just for a second. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it'll come back. Hey, you know we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of you. I just want to give a couple of

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Speaker 1: other stories. While we're waiting for Don's mike to come

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Speaker 1: back on, he was stuff talking about Zelensky. Can we

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Speaker 1: hear him? Are giving it a shot?

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Speaker 7: Right? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, listen right now, I just want to the

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Speaker 1: audience understand something because I talked about this story just before.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Don was talking about the mineral deal

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Speaker 1: that the United States is asking the Ukraine to hand

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Speaker 1: over those rare earths that are used for lithium that

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Speaker 1: we use it for make electric cars and things like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a very valuable resource right now around the world.

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Speaker 1: And it does seem like this is more than just

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Speaker 1: a used car salesman trick. It could actually be something

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Speaker 1: along the lines of the plot of the Producers. If

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Speaker 1: you remember, Max b Allistock and the other guy were

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Speaker 1: selling shares of the show to a million people. They

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Speaker 1: were just that that was a scam. It could be

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Speaker 1: a case of those rare earths actually going to a

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Speaker 1: number of people. But do we have don I think

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Speaker 1: we have done? Now we don't have all right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: here we go, All right, Don, I'm gonna move on

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Speaker 1: to the next story. Sorry, we lost your mic there

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Speaker 1: for us. Let's go go to this next story because

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of confusion right now about this

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Speaker 1: pro Hamas student and that's who he is at Columbia

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Speaker 1: that the Trump administration is trying to deport. Here's the confusion.

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Speaker 1: He may or may not actually be a Palestinian. He isn't,

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Speaker 1: by the way, exercise a protected free speech because he's

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Speaker 1: disrupted classes and harassed students, and the judge, by the way,

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Speaker 1: trying to freeze his deportation may or may not have

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction because the guy left New York already. But one

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Speaker 1: thing we do know don new York ag Tis James

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Speaker 1: is very concerned that his rights may have been in fringe.

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Speaker 1: She just tastes Trump that much, doesn't she done?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, here we go again, anything that's Trump.

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Speaker 8: You know that the New York judicial system just has

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Speaker 8: a complete meltdown. Let's look at what really happened here.

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Speaker 8: Mahmood Kelley is an agitator. And there's there's also signs

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Speaker 8: that a lot of these funds that they raise from

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Speaker 8: these protests are going directly right back to Hamas. So

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Speaker 8: protests across the country are actually funding Hamas.

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Speaker 7: That's what we need to look at. Not you know,

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Speaker 7: do we have a student.

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Speaker 8: On a student vija and if they're here legally illegal,

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Speaker 8: let's look at the source here and are we funding

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Speaker 8: terrorism through these protests all across the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, if you disrupt classes and you get

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Speaker 1: into a student's face and get about a foot away

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Speaker 1: from them, that's not free speech. All right, Donove and

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Speaker 1: dying to do this story with you. Here's how our

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Speaker 1: moral and intellectual superiors are covering. Home Land Security Chief

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Speaker 1: Christy Nomes brilliant idea. I think it's brilliant to change

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Speaker 1: a Biden administration app meant to help illegal aliens milk

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Speaker 1: the system into an app that will help them self deport.

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Speaker 1: Look at this headline. Yes, the enlightened and pro feminist

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Speaker 1: Daily Beast refers to NOME as a barbie ice barbie.

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Speaker 1: Do they know that NOME is heavily armed? They may

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Speaker 1: not want to watch it with that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Barbie came with a huge gun anyway. I like this bit.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of repackaging on the app. How

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Speaker 1: about you.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, you better watch out.

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Speaker 8: Barbie could be hanging out with g I Joe and

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Speaker 8: she may be packing right now. But you know, but

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Speaker 8: the way I look at it, look, the app was there.

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Speaker 8: Let's not rebuild the wheel. Let's take what's existing and

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Speaker 8: repackage it and make it work. You know, if if aliens,

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Speaker 8: if illegals want to come to the United States, immigrant

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Speaker 8: wants to come here, look the door is open, but

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Speaker 8: just do it the right way. So here's a chance

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Speaker 8: if you really want to you can get deported or

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Speaker 8: you can raise your hand and say deport me now

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Speaker 8: and let me come back the right way. So it

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Speaker 8: opens the door for citizenship. It opens the door for

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Speaker 8: the right way to come to the United States. But

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Speaker 8: it also helps a lot of people kind of set

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Speaker 8: themselves free, and we can realize who.

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Speaker 7: We're going to send home the right way and the

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Speaker 7: wrong way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you make a very good point that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people ask, even well meaning people,

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Speaker 1: but there's also some sneering people who ask it as

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Speaker 1: a rhetorical question. But for those of you asking this honestly,

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Speaker 1: who would want to self deport? Why would they do that? Well,

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Speaker 1: you just answered one part of that question, don and

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Speaker 1: that this is a way for them if they do this,

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Speaker 1: that they may be able to come back legally at

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Speaker 1: some point and maybe even relatively soon. So that's one reason.

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Speaker 1: The other reason is if the economic opportunities dry, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what happens immigrant, these illegal aliens do go home.

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Speaker 1: This happens all the time. It's happened every time we've

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Speaker 1: had an economic downturn in this country. I hope we

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Speaker 1: don't need to crash our economy to get rid of

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Speaker 1: these twelve or thirteen more illegal aliens that have come

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Speaker 1: in since the Biden administration. But that does happen. So

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Speaker 1: it's not my point, is not the reason for it,

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Speaker 1: but the fact that it does. Actually this is a

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Speaker 1: process and it does actually happen. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the economy. Speaking about that, Listen, the markets have

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Speaker 1: been going in a serious downturn. It's about ten days now.

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Speaker 1: There's been some ups and downs. We'll probably open a

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Speaker 1: little bit higher this morning, but we lost nine hundred

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Speaker 1: points on the dial yesterday, And there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that could really be feeding into this. But you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously fear about what could happen from the tariffs, and

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Speaker 1: fear about a potential recession that would certainly certainly be

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Speaker 1: a Joe Biden's recession. I don't think people really think

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's responsible for a recession if it starts within

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Speaker 1: a couple of months of his presidency. But the question

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Speaker 1: is done, do you think that President Trump is going

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Speaker 1: to change any of his policies, Will he put the

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Speaker 1: tariffs on hold forever, will he do something else in

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Speaker 1: response to what the markets are doing, or do you

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be a little bit more patient

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Speaker 1: with it than the average Wall Street investor who's very

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Speaker 1: highly anxious all the time.

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Speaker 8: Well, Jake, you know, during the State of the Union address,

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Speaker 8: the first thing that President Trump says is, you know,

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Speaker 8: be patient, work with me.

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Speaker 7: We're going to have a transition.

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Speaker 8: So he's recognizing what we're going to be going through

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Speaker 8: as an economy. But you're exactly right, you know, the

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Speaker 8: what we're seeing now part of what we saw on

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Speaker 8: the president.

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Speaker 7: So it takes time to make I.

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Speaker 8: Think what you say, you know, President Trump is taking

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Speaker 8: these hairs and they're mainly for me a deal tool

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Speaker 8: something that it's you know, we keep nudging it.

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Speaker 7: We've we've released released on you.

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Speaker 8: See him in a and we're moving forward towards Levering's

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Speaker 8: this tariff story interest.

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Speaker 7: I blame a lot of the blame.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they're putting fear out there, and that's what makests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Don, I'm so sorry your MIC's going in and

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Speaker 1: out again. I promise everyone watching that we really do

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Speaker 1: believe in free speech. I also promise that we're going

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Speaker 1: to get Don back on in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I feel so sorry. I'm sorry about this. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's wrong with the mic, but honestly, we do

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Speaker 1: believe in free speech. We'll heal you back on that.

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Speaker 1: As Don Bramer from the from the Bramer Group, please

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Speaker 1: check him out online. He's got a long, long history

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Speaker 1: in DC and he is really really quite well versed

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Speaker 1: in a lot of it. Don Bramer, thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I have a great rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get your mic fixed all right. Coming up,

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Speaker 1: there's an online media critic who was very, very interested

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Speaker 1: in the conversation David Brody and I had yesterday about

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk. We were talking about Mark Zuckerberg. We're going

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Speaker 1: to continue this conversation because this guy is extremely, extremely

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Speaker 1: interested in what David Brodie had to say. You should

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Speaker 1: be interested as well, but for a better reason. American

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Speaker 1: Sunrise Early Edition with better audio is coming right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to American Sunrise Early Edition. I'm Jake Novak.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now is David Brody, and I'm giving a

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Speaker 1: warning to all those people in the online news media

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Speaker 1: critic world who clearly have an obsession with mister Brodie.

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Speaker 1: One of them is this guy named David Edwards at

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Speaker 1: raw Story. I got to show you this headline from

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Speaker 1: raw Story because this is about our discussion that you

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Speaker 1: and I had yesterday, and we were talking about Mark

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and the fact that Facebook was this close to

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Speaker 1: rolling over for China and giving away all the freedoms

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Speaker 1: of anyone who uses Facebook for China, and then you

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Speaker 1: made a good point about how, you know, listen, as

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Speaker 1: elected leaders like President Trup need to be careful about

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Speaker 1: how much authority and how much trust they put into anyone,

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Speaker 1: whether they're doing good work at the time or not.

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Speaker 1: That's what democracy is about. And you were talking about

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk and Doge and some of the questions about

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Speaker 1: who's really in charge, and I think we need some

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Speaker 1: transparency on that. But this guy decided to turn it

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Speaker 1: into you having a rant. Well, first of all, you

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Speaker 1: you flipped out apparently, So I mean, honestly, look, this

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Speaker 1: is you know, I all joking aside, I do want

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Speaker 1: to say this to you, David. I think that the

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Speaker 1: they've experienced any real democracy or open debate because of

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Speaker 1: either political correctness or the fact that their favorite party,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, have decided who their presidential candidate has been

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Speaker 1: now for twelve years running. I think that they are

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Speaker 1: so unused to seeing democracy and reason debate that when

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Speaker 1: they see it, it frightens them. I think I'm on

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Speaker 1: the right track here. I think so.

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Speaker 9: By the way, the anti bucket list is to be

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Speaker 9: on raw Story. You know, one of my life goals was,

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Speaker 9: you know, when I'm growing up, boy, do I want

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Speaker 9: to be on raw Story? Whatever? What is raw story? Anyhow?

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Speaker 9: But look, you're right, first of all on the overall

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Speaker 9: point a couple of things on Elon Musk. Let's be clear,

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Speaker 9: Let's do the disclaimer, which of course they never put

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Speaker 9: in these type of stories.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 9: The disclaimer is Elon Musk is doing an amazing job. Okay,

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Speaker 9: he's doing an amazing job. The question is really a

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Speaker 9: constitutional one. And the question then becomes, does Elon Musk

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Speaker 9: have authority or is he an advisor to the president.

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Speaker 9: Now we've we've been told a couple different things, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean, he leads what we're called what they call

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Speaker 9: the Department of Government Efficiency, that's in the Executive Order,

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Speaker 9: we call it DOGE, as you know. Now, now that

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Speaker 9: could be a stumbling block here. I mean, if it's

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Speaker 9: a department, and we know it's not a department, it's

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Speaker 9: just an advisory council, is what it is. I mean, basically,

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Speaker 9: it's an advisory board, but it's called a department technically,

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Speaker 9: And when it comes to the law, receipts matter and

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Speaker 9: words matter, and paper trails matter, and so I think

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Speaker 9: that's where this could get caught up a little bit here.

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Speaker 9: So that's one aspect of it, and the other part

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Speaker 9: of it is kind of to the bottom line question

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Speaker 9: if he's an advisor. It's one thing. If he has authority,

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Speaker 9: then we're going to the appointments clause an Article two.

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Speaker 9: I mean that that becomes a whole different deal than

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Speaker 9: the Senate has to confirm someone like that is who's

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Speaker 9: going to have actual authority in that type of position. Now, Jake,

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Speaker 9: you tell me it helped me through this, you know,

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Speaker 9: from a psychological perspective and from a tile and all perspective.

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Speaker 9: But I'm still trying to figure out what is it

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Speaker 9: that does he have authority or does or is he

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Speaker 9: just advising? Some days I feel like he's just advising.

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Speaker 9: For example, Mark or Rubio saying I'm going to take

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Speaker 9: your advice on eighty three percent of cuts and we're

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Speaker 9: going to do it at the State Department. Or sometimes

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Speaker 9: we're getting standing ovations that Elon Musk at the State

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Speaker 9: of the Union because Donald Trump is saying, hey, look

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Speaker 9: at Elon Musk. Look what he's doing. Look what he's doing. Now, Trump,

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Speaker 9: you know, has a way with words in a good way,

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Speaker 9: but also in a way that could legally put some

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Speaker 9: jeopardy here into into the whole mixed. So I don't know, Jake.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm curious to get your take on this. Uh,

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Speaker 9: it's murky, and murky in legal legalese doesn't typically benefit you.

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Speaker 9: So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Well, David, gosh darn it. If there's anything about American

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Speaker 1: sun Rise early Edition that I can promise the viewers

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Speaker 1: is that you're going to get some history. So I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a guy that David and I

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Speaker 1: grew up with. We piled around one with the kids,

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Speaker 1: President Andrew Jackson. He was a great guy. We loved him. Yeah, anyways,

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Speaker 1: you remember but.

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Speaker 9: I called him Andy. I called him Andy by the way.

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Speaker 1: Ye yeah, Andy. He was awesome, old Hickory. Well, anyway, listen,

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Speaker 1: he has something called the kitchen cabinet. I have a

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Speaker 1: live picture of Andrew Jackson, by the way, come out

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Speaker 1: in a second. Andrew Jackson had something there he is Uh,

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Speaker 1: he had something called the kitchen cabinet. Now, why did

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Speaker 1: he have this? These were people who were really advising him, basically,

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Speaker 1: really really making his policies. Why did he have to

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Speaker 1: have the kitchen cabinet? Because when he became president, he

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Speaker 1: had a bunch of John C. Calhoun devotees shoved down

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Speaker 1: his into his real cabinet, and he didn't trust him.

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Speaker 1: Now I think that Donald Trump trusts this new cabinet.

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Speaker 1: I think that the Calhoun thing is much more relevant

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Speaker 1: to the twenty sixteen Donald Trump. But okay, look, I

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Speaker 1: think there's another thing going on, David, and that is

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Speaker 1: this obsession with Elon Musk. Let's face it, it's providing a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a filter and a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an identification, a little bit of a side show, keeping

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Speaker 1: some of those knives off of Donald Trump. So I

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Speaker 1: think that that's a lot of this, a lot of

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Speaker 1: this story as well.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and let's remember you go down the Andrew Jackson route.

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Speaker 9: Let's go back to George Washington. I mean, Alexander Hamilton

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Speaker 9: was an advisor at one point to George Washington. So look,

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Speaker 9: there's a long line of advisors that have come in

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Speaker 9: to help shape policy. If that's what Elon Musk is,

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Speaker 9: which really he technically is or is a special government employee,

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Speaker 9: which needs some more definition. But if that's the case,

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Speaker 9: then great, that's it. But my key question all of

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Speaker 9: this is who is making that final call. My sense

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Speaker 9: is that the cabinet rectors, the cabinet uh agency leaders

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Speaker 9: are making those calls. But then again, it gets murky,

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Speaker 9: So I don't know, but you're right. Andrew Jackson was

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Speaker 9: a good friend of mine. I know he was a

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Speaker 9: friend of yours.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: I always felt like he was a great dresser back then,

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Speaker 9: and I always felt like I never really came to

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Speaker 9: the table as well dressed and well quaft as I see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not enough fur in our in our wardrobes.

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Speaker 1: But all joking aside, if you're if you're watching this

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Speaker 1: raw story or other leftists or college kids, which you

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Speaker 1: just witnessed, is a reasoned discussion. We had a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, not really necessarily debate this time. David and

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Speaker 1: I don't agree about everything. This was democracy, uh. And

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Speaker 1: you can see more of it on American Sunrise in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of hours with David T. Bas and

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Speaker 1: doctor Gina. I'm Jake Novak. This has been an American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: early addition, this has been a real discussion with real

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Speaker 1: interesting topics. I'll see you tomorrow. Stick around American Sunrise

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Speaker 1: coming right up.