1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm John Tucker. Here 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: are these stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: John, We begin with new developments this morning on global tariffs. 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: Bloomberg News has learned the Trump administration is working to 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: narrow its broad duties on steel and aluminum products. We 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: get more from Bloomberg Global Trades are Brendan Murray. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 4: Well, what we know is the Trump administration has acknowledged 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: that the steel and aluminum tariffs that they rolled out 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 4: in waves last year are overly complicated for a lot 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 4: of companies and have really created a lot of unintended 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: victims that have to pay these tariffs. They rolled out 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: the first twenty five percent tariff and in March of 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 5: Then they raised it to fifty percent in June, and 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 5: then in August they extended the scope of the tariffs 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 5: to include a whole host of maybe hundreds of goods 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: that contain steel and aluminum. 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Brendan Murray says ending or curtailing the derivative tariffs 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: would be a positive step for the US European Union 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: Trade Accord. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Nathan. The Environmental Protection Agency has revoked a 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: key scientific finding that supported US regulations on greenhouse gas emissions. 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Let's get that story from Washington and Bloomberg's Amy Morris. 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 6: The move recinds a two thousand and nine declaration that 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 6: carbon dioxide and other gases endanger public health. EPA administrator 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 6: Lee Zelden calls this a major deregulatory action. President Trump says, 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 6: ultimately it saves money. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: This action will eliminate over one point three trillion dollars 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: of regulatory costs and help bring car prices tumbling down dramatically. 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 6: The so called endangerment finding serves as the legal foundation 32 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 6: for a lot of environmental rules, including federal standards for 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: vehicle emissions. Trump says he'll also repeal the Amy Morris 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Radio All. 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: Right, Amy, thank you mon Capitol Hill, it's gone quiet. 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: The Senate has headed out for a week long recess. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: The federal government is headed for its second partial shutdown 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: in as many months, and the third since President Trump 39 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: returned to office. This one will affect only the Department 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: of Homeland Security. The Senate failed to begin debate on 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: a year long bill for the agency that included no 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: changes to immigration enforcement. Senate minoriti leader Chuck Schumer says 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: that would have been unacceptable. 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 7: This vote today asked a simple question, will you rain 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 7: in ICE's abuses or will you vote to extend the chaos. 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 7: Republicans chose chaos, and the Democrats we refused. 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats want immigration agents to 48 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: where body cameras and obtain warrants, take off masks, and 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: have limited immunity from lawsuits. Majority Leader John Thune says 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: the White House presented a good faith counteroffer, but he 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: says it looks like the Democrats aren't serious. Under a shutdown, 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: most DHS employees will be expected to work without pay. 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: That includes the Transportation Security Administration, which could mean a 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 3: strain at the airports and more. 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: Fallout. This morning from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, Goldman Sachs 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: top lawyer Kathy Rembler leaving the firm. This follows a 57 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: cash of Department of Justice documents showing her links to 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: the SAX offender. Rembler, who's going to leave on June thirtieth, 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: was well known for a time as a White House 60 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: council in Barack Obama's administration. She was hired by Goldman 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: Sachs in twenty twenty and later became its legal chief. 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: All right, John, let's get you an update now on 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: the search for Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy. Tomorrow will be 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: two weeks since the Today Show host's mother was last 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: seen at her home near Tucson. The FBI has doubled 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: the reward for information leading to her captors to one 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, and investigators are asking neighbors to share 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: surveillance camera footage of suspicious cars or people they may 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: have seen in the month before she disappeared. This neighbor 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: just hopes they find Nancy Guthrie. 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 8: She was the kindest, formest, the most giving person I've 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 8: ever met, and has passed on to her daughter Savannah 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 8: as well because as how Sapana is. 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: The FBI has also released more information about the masked 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: man seen in surveillance video on Nancy Guthrie's front porch. 76 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: They now say he is a suspect. He's five nine 77 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: or five ten with an average build, wearing a black 78 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: twenty five liters Ozark trail hiker pack backpack. 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: And Venezuela is planning to grant more oil production land 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: to Chevron in Spain's REPSOL, as the Trump administration pushes 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: for private companies to rebuild that nation's energy sector. Sources 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: are telling Bloomberg that officials in Carancas are poised to 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 2: award the exploration of production blocks as soon as this week. 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: Energy Secretary Chris Wright spoke to Bloomberg's a Marie Hordern 85 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: about rebuilding the country's oil sector. 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 9: I think in the first year we'll see pretty significant 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 9: thirty forty percent growth in Venezuelan oil production. This year, 88 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 9: you can continue production growth rate at a pretty good clip. 89 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 9: Venezuela does have the largest proved oil reserves, which is 90 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 9: the technical concept, much larger than the. 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: US Energy Secretary Chris Wright speaking to Bloomberg's Amory hor 92 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: drning Caracas. But Trump administration is expected to issue a 93 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: general license to allow international oil companies to explore and 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: produce in Venezuela without violating US sanctions. 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: Let's turn to the markets now, John. Following another tech 96 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: fueled sell off on Wall Street, which saw the Nasdaq 97 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: fall two percent yesterday, this morning, futures are mixed, but 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: shares of applied materials are surging. They're twelve percent now 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: in the pre market. The largest US supplier of chip 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: making gear delivered an upbeat sales forecasts, signaling demand for 101 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence and memory semiconductors is fueling equipment purchases. Federal 102 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: Reserve Governor Stephen Myron is once again calling for lower 103 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 3: interest rates. He says the biggest risk to the economy 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: right now is policymakers underestimating how much rates are restraining growth. 105 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 10: It's still slacking the economy. Increased potential output that can 106 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 10: be accommodated by looser monitor policy. And so the combination 107 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 10: of these things leads me to think that montary policy 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 10: is tighter than it needs to be, and that we 109 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 10: can we can, we can afford to have lower interest rates. 110 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: FED Governor Stephen Myron spoke at an event in Dallas. 111 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: He says underlying inflation is very close to the Fed's 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: two percent target. 113 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: And another big payday for a banking boss. City Group 114 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: has boosted the pay chief executive officer Jane Fraser to 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: forty two million dollars, a twenty two percent increase follows 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: a year in which City Group stock rows sixty six percent. 117 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: That's more than any other Roll Street bank. The pay 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: bump puts Fraser's total package for the year of twenty 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: twenty five just a million dollars behind that of JP 120 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: Morgan Chase CEO, Jamie Diamond. 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: And John. 122 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: We're watching the skies this morning, with NASA said to 123 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: launch four astronauts to the International Space Station, replacing a 124 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: crew that had to be evacuated early due to a 125 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: medical issue. This is Crew twelve's mission aboard a SpaceX 126 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: found nine rocket. The pre dawn launch was delayed by 127 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: two days due to adverse weather conditions across the East Coast. 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: These astronauts are expected to arrive at the orbiting iss 129 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: by tomorrow afternoon. 130 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: Hey, that brings us to a five pot one on 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: Wall Street. Time for a look at somebody other stories 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: making news in New York and around the world, and 133 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: for that which run by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. Michael, good morning, 134 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: Good morning John. 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 8: It's a victory for the Gateway Tunnel project under the 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 8: Hudson River in New York. The Trump administration is expected 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 8: to restore federal funding for the tunnel construction after a 138 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 8: deadline passed for an appeals court to block a judge's 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 8: order to release the money. New York Attorney General Letitia 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 8: James and New Jersey Acting Attorney General Jennifer Davenport said 141 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 8: the administration must immediately release funding for the project. As 142 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 8: the order is now in effect, the federal government could 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 8: still ask the Supreme Court to put the judges order 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 8: on hohold. A federal judge agreed to block the Pentagon 145 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 8: from punishing Senator Mark Kelly for taking part in a 146 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 8: video telling troops to resist unlawful orders. It comes days 147 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 8: after a federal grand jury refused to bring charges against 148 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 8: the group of Democratic lawmakers for the same video. Defense 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 8: Secretary Pete Hegseeth moved to demote Kelly from his rank 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 8: of captain. However, US District Judge Richard Leon ruled that 151 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 8: Pentagon officials not only violated at Kelly's First Amendment free 152 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 8: speech rights, but they also threatened the constitutional liberties of 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 8: millions of military retirees. Kelly spoke after the judge's ruling, 154 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 8: so again. 155 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 4: This isn't about me, a Scott. 156 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: This is about an administration that is out of control 157 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: on so many different levels. 158 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 8: Some Republicans' support for Hexas's move, but others like GOP. 159 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 8: Senator Mkowski accused the administration of trying to make criminals 160 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 8: out of lawmakers. Senator Kelly says he's fighting because retired 161 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 8: service members have told him they change what they say 162 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: and do because of how President Trump is acting. The 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 8: Pride Flag is flying once again at the historic Stonewall 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 8: Inn in Greenwich Village, New York City. Elected officials raised 165 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 8: the flag once again. Earlier this week, the National Park 166 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 8: Service removed the rainbow flag at the federal monument dedicated 167 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 8: to LGBTQ, Wright, saying it was in line with administration guidelines. 168 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 8: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 169 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 8: want it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Michael Barr, and 170 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg. Thanks Michael. 171 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: Time now for a Bloomberg Sports update. For that, we 172 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: bring in John stash Hour. 173 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 11: Last game before the NBA All Star Break, the Lakers 174 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 11: won by twenty over Dallas and Lebron James, at age 175 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 11: forty one, scored or assisted on each of the lakers 176 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 11: first twenty three points. It never done that before in 177 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 11: an NBA game. Man had a triple double, the oldest 178 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 11: to ever do that. At the Olympics today, the play 179 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 11: Italy and the women's hockey quarterfinals, the US team is 180 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 11: four and o by a combined score of twenty to one. 181 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 11: And in men's finger skating, the American Ilia Malinin goes 182 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 11: for the gold. That's a Bloomberg Sports update. Stay with us. 183 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: More from Bloomberg Daybreak coming up after this. 184 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 185 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 187 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. The White House may be 188 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 3: ready to do some tinkering with a piece of President 189 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: Trump's terriff regime that has proven complicated. Bloomberg News has 190 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: learned the administration's working to narrow its broad duties on 191 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: steel and aluminum. For more, we're joined by Bloomberg News 192 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: Global Trades are Brendan Murray Brendon, Good morning. What are 193 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: we hearing about the Trump Administration's plans here? 194 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 12: So, if you recall, the President put twenty five percent 195 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 12: tariff on steel and aluminum in March of last year, 196 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 12: then he raised it to fifty percent in June of 197 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 12: last year, and then and then he added about four 198 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 12: hundred products that that have steel and aluminum in them 199 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 12: in August, So he that captured a lot of imports 200 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 12: and created some collateral damage from companies that use steel 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 12: and aluminum. You can imagine how hard it is to 202 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 12: figure out how much of the contents of a product 203 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 12: you import contain steel and aluminum. And those companies have 204 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 12: complained to the White House, and the White House has 205 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 12: acknowledged that the complexity has gotten to to uh to 206 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 12: too much for these companies to handle. So it sounds 207 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 12: like our reporting says that the administration is going to 208 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 12: come at this with a more tailored approach rather than 209 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 12: the sort of shotgun approach they had last year. 210 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: So what would a tailored approach necessarily look like. 211 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 12: Well, they could they could pull back the the derivative 212 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 12: product tariffs that they that they rolled out in August. 213 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 12: That really annoyed the Europeans because the Europeans just a 214 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 12: few weeks earlier had negotiated a trade deal with the 215 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 12: US and when they and when they hit these other 216 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 12: hundreds of products, the Europeans were like, you know, I 217 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 12: thought we had a deal here, but but but you've 218 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 12: just hit us with a whole lot more so, they 219 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 12: could they could pull those back, They could create some 220 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 12: exclusions for the for for tariffs that companies are are 221 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 12: having trouble paying uh. And so ultimately these were designed 222 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 12: to protect the steel industry, but what they've done is 223 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 12: they've hit the users of steel, the domestic users of steel. 224 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: UH. 225 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 12: And you could all you have to look at is 226 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 12: Ford in general. Motors this week said that they paid 227 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 12: five billion dollars combined last year in US tariffs. And 228 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 12: that's because automakers use a lot of steel and aluminum. 229 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: So is this the kind of thing that could smooth 230 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: over the US EU trade deal? I mean, there's been 231 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: a lot of back and forth in terms of getting 232 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: this thing ratified. 233 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the derivative product issue has been a big 234 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 12: hang up for the Europeans. And and if and if 235 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 12: it can be if it could be dealt with, and 236 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 12: then that will go a long way toward resolving some 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 12: of Brussels's issues with the tariffs as they see them. 238 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 8: Now. 239 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 12: The implementation of that deal is still hasn't been fully 240 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 12: carried through on the European side, and so that could 241 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 12: help bring that deal over the line. 242 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: Of course, Brendany, as you know, This is coming at 243 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: a time where a lot of Americans are concerned about 244 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 3: the cost of living and whether tariffs are feeding into that. 245 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: Is that part of the calculus here from what you're 246 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: hearing from the White House as far as these steal 247 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: and aluminum tariffs go, that this could be a means 248 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: to address some of those concerns. 249 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 12: Absolutely, we've heard from both the Federal Reserve and the 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,239 Speaker 12: Congressional Budget Office this week that American consumers and businesses 251 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 12: are paying the lion's share of the tariff bill, and 252 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 12: we're going to get some consumer price numbers this morning, 253 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 12: so we'll see how inflation looks as it stood in January. 254 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 12: So absolutely, the White Houses is trying to moderate its 255 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 12: approach given the pressures that are coming from Congress and 256 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 12: from and from consumers on the cost of living and 257 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 12: the affordability. 258 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: Issue, and given the potential impact here on the auto industry. 259 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: What could this mean for the you know, the ongoing 260 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: negotiations around the US Mexico Canada agreement. We've been reporting 261 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: that President Trump is at least privately talking about why 262 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: don't I just walk away from it? 263 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, so that the President Trump has really been 264 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 12: picking on the Canadians recently and in Mexico and Canada. Uh, 265 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 12: you know, would be would be inter woven into the 266 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 12: auto supply chain with the US and Mexico and Canada. 267 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 12: Also you know have a lot of you know, sort 268 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 12: of steel and aluminum imports. 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