WEBVTT - A Menendez Brothers Update & Taking a Punch With Sarah Silverman 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:01.600 Man, what's handed man? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.040 You got more Shaw, Besma Lynch. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.200 Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politics. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:09.680 You know to be you known to be. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.200 So, Gavin. I saw the recent Menendez stuff with the DA. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.400 I actually just finished watching the six part series on Netflix. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:29.640 What's your thoughts? 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.720 Well, it's interesting. I met with the team that put 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.800 that series together about nine months ago and they gave 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.200 me heads up. They said, watch see what happens after 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.960 this series is is released, because it's going to generate 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.360 a lot more conversation around whether or not these guys 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:47.919 should be released or re sentenced. And here we are 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.959 fast tracked not so many months later. But one thing 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.040 is crystal clear. This is what I do for a 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.960 living every week, including no bs. Literally today we go 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.279 through all the pro board recommendations. I was working on 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:09.080 pardons independent of the Menendez brothers and commutations today as well, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:14.320 particularly this time of year around Thanksgiving. It's not atypical 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.119 for a governor to do that. And obviously the team 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.600 has done a lot of research and analysis of what 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.640 the DA's decision means doesn't mean obviously it has to 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.119 go back to the courts or at least the DA 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.360 is asking for recendency, which has to be approved by 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:36.080 independent court. And then the question is if they approve eligibility, 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.200 then it goes to the pro board and then ultimately 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.080 will go to me for decision either to reject the 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.560 pro board send it back what we call en banc, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.560 or to approve the recommendation. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.160 Well, Gavin, I'm not the DA, or the attorney or 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.840 anybody else, But like I said, if I have daughters 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.720 and a son, and I think back in those days 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.560 when he talked about sexual stuff, no one thought it 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.560 could happen to kids. And if that I was all true, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.920 then hey, you know what they did what they did, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.320 they had to and they've paid their they paid their 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.080 price for the crime, and they should be out and 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.920 the rest is history. But it's a powerful story. I 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.120 remember it like it was yesterday when I watched a 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.840 try when I was a kid, and you know, they've 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.840 done thirty some odd years, and like I said, if 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.000 the facts are true, would happen, then let them out. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.560 You know, it's interesting I think when we think about 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.359 our lives, I mean, I think our parents would remember, 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.720 you know, Manson as an indelible thing. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:34.400 But for us. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.520 I think it was OJ and the Menendez brothers, which 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.040 was so much part of the narrative our lives, and 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.480 there was such high profile cases. Maybe Scott Peterson would 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.400 even fall into that category, but here we are. It's 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.600 it's a hell of a thing. I mean, there's been 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.399 so many you've probably seen half of them. I haven't, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.520 because you've been talking about the Menendez brothers for years 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.280 and year as long as I've known you. Because there's 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.640 been documentaries, there's been series that have been done, but 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.320 no doubt what Ryan Murphy did with this series really 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.239 lit things up. I think social medias lit things up. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.240 I don't know about you, but I'll tell you. I 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.239 can't even tell you how many times my kids online 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.640 have said, Hey, what's going on with the Menenda's brothers, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.200 and like, how the hell do you know about the 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:20.480 Menendez brothers Because it's really lit up TikTok and Instagram 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.320 and the chat rooms and as a consequence, the conversations, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.639 are you right about conversations we didn't really have when 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.520 we were kids about sexual assault and conversations abound sentencing? 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.480 But look, I don't none of that stuff for me matters. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:40.200 What matters are the facts. What matters is justice and fairness. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.800 Not treating them any worse because they're celebrities, not treating 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.840 them certainly any better because they're celebrities. But the DA 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.800 looked at the facts, he at least made his own 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.840 assessment and feels like they should be resentenced thirty four 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.960 years for murder. Now it's a double murder. You know. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:02.560 I've seen people twenty five years be released, not for 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.720 double murders necessarily, but single murders. And this is obviously 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.080 some new compelling evidence that was introduced, and so we'll 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.160 see where the judge goes well. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.400 In closing, Galvin, I appreciate everyone's thought energy into this 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.240 because these are never easy in regards to all levels 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.680 of victims and families and things like that. So I 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.200 applaud everyone's thought in this process, from the attorneys to 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.919 the media to again the Ryan Murphy and and everybody 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.960 looking at this saying at its best, because that should 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.680 be the way it is, not only just with the 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:42.080 Menendez but anybody who's been involved in something that needs 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:42.720 a second look. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:43.360 Yeah. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.159 No, this is one thing we do is is California 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.520 is always about second looks, process and justice. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:51.320 But at the end of the day. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.799 To your point, it's about the families, it's about victims, 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.440 and and you know to the extent that there are 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.880 family members that are supporting their release, that's something you consider. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.240 And I'll tell you one thing just may not be 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.800 familiar with everybody that's listening. One of the things that's 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.919 perhaps the most determinative when you come up to the 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.520 pro board process is what kind of prisoner have you been? 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.239 Have you been focused on your rehabilitation, have you taken 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.760 responsibility for your crime? And whether you're coming out more 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.480 of a broken person or you're coming out as a 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.360 better person, and all that is also determinative. So any 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.200 assessment that we make, I imagine that the judge and the 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.719 resentencing will also look very very certainly, the pro board 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.400 war will is look at the imprison conduct over the 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.800 course the last thirty four years. Did they invest in 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:46.640 their own rehabilitation? Have they committed to being better people 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:52.560 outside those prison walls? And all those things again are 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.400 compounding and considered in the context of whether or not 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.920 to move forward and support a recommendation. If they're approved 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.000 the pro board. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:15.640 Well, you got a busy couple weeks, Kevin get after it. Hey, guys, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.280 we have we have our we have our incredible. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.560 Guest, Doug, why don't you introduce Miss Silverman. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.000 Well, hey, listen, Sarah. This is an honor for me 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.480 because you are a rock star and for the politic 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.400 and podcast listeners. Our incredible guest is a two time 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.240 Emmy winning comedian, actress, writer, the host of her own 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.560 Unbelievable podcast called The Sarah Silverman Podcast, currently on tour 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.839 with the Post martem Tour, and she is one of 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.400 the funniest people I've ever met seeing uh listen to 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.400 and we want to welcome Sarah Silverman. 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:54.480 Thank you, Sarah, Well, thank you everybody. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:55.960 Good morning, Sarah. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.479 How are you. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:57.440 I'm great. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:02.520 I was just listening to y'all's I want to come 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.760 up with a theme song for politick. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.719 In politick In. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.360 You freestyle too, Yeah, I'm very very good. Watch this. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.320 Come on and listen to politick In. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.240 Don't be a chicken that bars. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.960 I mean, I got your ad libs. So however you go, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.000 We're gonna make this ship work. It you keep fitting 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.560 that ship and I'm gonna carry it. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.280 I got your ad libs. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.480 Mar Shaun. I'm such a big fan. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.360 I saw Bottoms on a plane and came home and 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:44.480 immediately watched it again that that movie was the best 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:45.360 movie of the year. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.720 Really, I think, like I don't. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.680 Get why it to me, it should be seen as 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:57.040 like changing comedy, like moving comedy forward, like the way 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.800 super Bad was or something like that is a teen 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.360 movie that is like right on the cusp of where 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:06.679 comedy is now. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:07.880 I just I thought. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.600 It was first of all, thank you and I appreciate 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.320 that to the young ladies that I worked with over there, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.800 you know, I told him thank you for you know, 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.600 giving me the opportunity. But we was up for two 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.560 awards for for that in the endie. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:29.440 Fam Awards, Oh Spirit Award, Yeah. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.480 The Best the best movie, and then I was nominated 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.160 for like the New Artists or New Actor Ship something 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:38.600 like that. 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.040 It was the New Actor Ship, Yeah. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.720 The New Actor Ship some high over. That ship worked. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.600 But it was cool though, But just I mean I 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.520 appreciate uh yeah, I mean I appreciate the love though. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:50.720 That's big, Sarah. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.840 What what do you say the new comedy? I mean, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:54.840 are you serious that? It's like I mean, it sort 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.679 of expresses itself in a different way from I mean 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.840 his comedy evolving and in real or it's always evolving. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.960 Yeah, it's always evolving. It has to change to survive. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.200 I mean, listen, as someone who's been around for a while, 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.960 you can go if you existed. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.679 Ten, fifteen, twenty twenty. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.640 Five years ago, it's hard to not be in trouble 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:17.880 for things, you know what I mean. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:18.600 If you're like a. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.480 Reverend back then you're fucked today, but you're not. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.959 You're still around. But it's I think it's important. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.720 It's a kind of microcosm of really what all people 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.200 should be doing, which is growing and changing. And you 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:37.080 learn new stuff and you're like embarrassed that you cringe 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.040 at the old you and you're reborn as the new you, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.800 and you have to find ways to be funny within 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.400 those parameters. But I mean, like I think, and I 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.320 bet it. Maybe it's this way with sports and or 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:59.679 politics or agentism, but like boundaries or like, yeah, like 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:06.040 limits can help even though you fight them, because they 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.880 force you to figure out something within those limits and 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.600 you end up liking it better, even if it's like 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.440 the worst executive note or something. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.280 You're like, this guy doesn't even fucking get it. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.840 But then you address the note in a way that 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.760 you love and it's even better, like you know how 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.480 limits can be. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.720 They can help sometimes, you know. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.080 But Sarah, I totally agree that The Bottoms it's funny. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.280 There's kids now that come up to me and say, Hey, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.160 is that the guy from Bottoms? And it's not. Hey 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.400 is that Marshawn the famous player? It's Bottoms? And I 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.319 saw it in the theater as well, and I'm like, dude, 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.640 this fucking guy is really fun I've always known Morshaw's 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.880 funny bean ad Asian for twenty years, but he was 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.760 really funny. The movie was legitimately off the Sharks good. 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.520 It's a fearless movie. And it's not just like you 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.760 don't go like, oh, that's a girl's comedy or something 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.080 because it's mostly girls or the leads are girls. You 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.840 don't even think about that. It's just hardcore funny, yeah. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.240 For real. And they they was, they was, they was. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.640 They was great to work with. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.800 And I mean, you know they body of work after that, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.480 you know what I mean, I see I keep up 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:10.840 with them. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.040 I owe a debris. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.599 I know well, I know her for she was like 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.880 a little comedian, you know, and now she's. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.240 They all good, So I was so I remember, so 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.120 I played a trick on myself because I had a 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.400 uh what is called a monologue? 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.320 Yes you did, so I'm like. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.760 Oh ship, I ain't never did no ship like this before. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.360 So I you know, I mean, I'm going around talking 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.640 to all of the casts like hey. 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.960 Yeah, so how you do this ship? And they're like 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:37.480 oh yeah. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.439 So I'm stressing, like, oh man, I don't know if 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.480 I'm being able to do it. And so we get 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.559 to set and the like you'd be all right if 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.200 if in doubt, just do your own ship. And I 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.400 was like, what you you trust me enough to do that? 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.440 She like, I don't know, but we're gonna figure it 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.160 out together. I'm like, oh ship. So the first one 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.720 I just was doing some oh shit, I was just talking. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.360 She's like, no, that was great. 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:03.959 Do it again. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.079 And then I was just able to recite the actual 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.320 the lines and she like, oh you did it work 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.760 for word type shit? She like, now can you do both? 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.080 Can you just hit these key points and then just 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.720 do your other shit. I'm like, all right, let's give 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.400 it a try. And I think that's the one that 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.040 they actually went with. So yeah, I mean that was 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.120 really helpful, especially, you know, I mean because that was 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.880 at the time, that was the biggest thing I have 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.000 done so far, so you know, I mean it helped me, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.600 you know, I mean get comfortable in a sense where 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.440 there's some shit I ain't never did before. But something 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.120 that I told him that my uncle Lee used to 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.120 always tell me, is come on, let's go drink some 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.200 Hennison and do some shit we ain't never done before. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.520 And then we started pushing them limits. We start pushing 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.360 them limits and making that box that they put us 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.199 in a little bit bigger. So yeah, but to see that, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:58.400 you know, people you know outside of just the sports world, actually, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.880 you know, tell me I did a good job. I mean, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.000 that shit is helpful, That shit is big, So thank you. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.400 Ay ready, Yeah, I mean, your instincts are great. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.840 You know, some people's just they've got their instincts and 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.800 that they you know, and a lot of times what 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.640 gets people in their head about acting and it keeps 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.319 is like, oh, I am not doing this right or 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.760 I'm not everyone else has done this longer, but everyone 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.240 has just only done it. Everyone's had their first time. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.360 And also just to not get in your own way 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.280 and trust that just you. 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.720 Know, fuck it, yeah, because right now I'm shooting a 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.520 movie right now, and this was the first time that 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:40.760 I had a table read, so I didn't know what 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.800 the fuck do you expect? And I think I'm the 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.000 only person on the on the table read, like everybody 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.840 reading their lines and shit, like what's on the page 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:55.280 and I'm just talking shit. So after the uh so, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.160 after the table read, the director come up to me. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.440 I was like, you did this for her? 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.720 I'm like, hey, oh no, he like and that shit 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.800 was great and all of the other cashman was like, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:08.680 how did you know to do that? I'm like, shit, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.280 I didn't. Y'all just made me hella nervous. All these 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.520 people sitting around just looking at me. Read like read 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.240 named my strong point, you know what I mean. I 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.240 was a special resource kid. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.800 So I'm a slow reader too. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.000 But you know, when you're a slow reader, you're sometimes 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:25.360 a really thorough reader. 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.280 That's what I like to think because I'm a really slow, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:29.600 labored reader. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:31.360 And I like the way you put that. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.720 By the way, Sarah, and you got I heard you 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.520 had some technique the last time you were reciting some lines, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.080 you had some earpiece or something. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.920 Someone was I mean, this is merchan. 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.560 This said maybe a pro tip from Sarah. She had 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.600 someone in her ear literally giving her the line. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.880 The next lines, it was myself. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.520 Well, I had to audition for that movie, Maestro, and 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.680 it was like a nine page monologue. There's not a 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.400 world where I'm going to learn that in a few 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.240 days and put it on. So I just read it 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:01.560 and read it and read it and read it and 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.280 read it, and then I record it and then I 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.320 put it. I got a sound guy who had an 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.160 earwig put it in my ear. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.160 I put it in my ear and I recorded like this, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:11.360 you know, so you just saw the. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.800 Side and then I press play and I would say 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.320 the lines. You know, I hear myself say the line, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.280 and then I say the line. And I'm pretty good 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.600 at listening while i'm. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:21.520 Talking, you know. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.120 So I just did that and it looked like I 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.720 learned the whole thing. And the truth is, with acting, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.320 it doesn't matter how you do it. You can I 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.680 could paste my lines onto the forehead of the guy 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.960 who's off camera that I'm talking to. It doesn't matter 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.000 if it looks real, that's all that matters. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.600 Well, Sarah, I got to be honest I've all you've 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.640 been one of the coolest people and I love your work. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.120 Going back as a kid, were you always the funny 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.360 one in the house or in your friend grew up 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.200 in school? Did you grow up that way as a 0:15:59.200 --> 0:15:59.680 young kid. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.320 Yeah, Yeah, that's definitely how I got by. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.120 I mean, I feel like comics one hundred percent of 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.640 the time they being funny? 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:09.200 Is there? 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.440 We all as kids we learned survival skills that get 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.320 us through childhood alive, and they don't always serve us 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:18.960 in adulthood. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.840 Then we have to try to unlearn that stuff. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.000 But with comics, we just we had to become funny 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.800 to survive, you know, kind of, and then it helps 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.680 in our lives. But there's probably certain things to unlearn 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.200 that would make us healthier. A lot of comics don't 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.560 want to go to therapy or anything because they they 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.320 don't want to get well because they worry it will 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:40.280 make them not funny. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.480 Like this, Well it was funny, Gavin, unlike you and 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.400 I who have four kids with three kids, and we 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.120 teach our kids not to swear. Sarah's dad was infamous 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:51.840 in saying, hey, listen, I want you to swear, and 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:53.720 did he teach you how to swear at a young 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:54.680 age and what to say. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.720 You know, He's just one of those like dads who 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.840 thought it would be hilarious to teach his little kid swear, 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.800 and then I did. He would have me yell them 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.000 out like we were at the market. And then I 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.920 felt the one thing I remember, you know, I was 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.400 like three, but I remember feeling like all this approval 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.240 from all these grown ups despite themselves, like they didn't 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.800 want to, but they were laughing in it. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.719 It made my arms itch with glee. 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:24.199 You know. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.520 I wanted more and I could see how I kind 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.119 of got addicted to like shock humor, and that's definitely 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.240 what I was doing in the beginning of my career especially. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.200 And how did when did it get formalized? When did 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.959 you actually get up on stage in front of strangers 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.400 and start to realize you had a path. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:42.320 Well. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.040 I went to this high school that they had assemblies, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.840 you know, like in bottoms and on Mondays and Fridays, 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.320 and every once in a while they'd let me do 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.879 like two minutes of jokes, you know, and my math teacher, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.480 he encouraged me. I was able to instead of messing 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.960 up interrupting the whole class. I had one joke that 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.240 I could tell at the beginning of every class. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.520 And then I had to be quiet and uh. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.119 And then between my junior and senior year of high school, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.359 I went to summer school in Boston and that's the 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:14.960 first time. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.280 I did an open mic. And then I moved to 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.360 New York when I graduated, and that was that. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.640 What was it? Did you have any particular was there? 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:24.480 What was it? 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.320 I mean those math jokes, were they mean just dad 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.680 jokes back then? Or were they insightful? 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.720 Probably joke book jokes. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.040 Was you more like freest out, like shit, I'm gonna 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.240 just get up here? Or was this something like you 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:38.720 read it you've written out? 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.800 Sometimes it was like a joke book or something, or 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.080 like some from a comedy album. But when I would 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.000 go up at assemblies, I would do jokes about the 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.840 students and the teachers and stuff. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.639 Oh so you've been roasting, Yeah, yeah, get on the head. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.880 That's what I'd be doing to my key is too, Yeah, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.520 gavint uh and Doug. I'll be busting jokes on the 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.360 mono coon like there my two white sons though two. 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:06.439 White sons, By the way, I never had to say. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.359 I never had the guts to say, Marson, you were 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.919 funny because you do that Joe Peshi thing on me 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.240 man knocked my eye. Yeah, I ain't gonna touch that. 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.800 Like you're great, you were great. It was good, We're good, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:18.440 We're good. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:19.360 Thank your son. 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.600 So, Sarah, what I mean, So you did those early 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.399 stage things, But was it did you have a career 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.760 mindset then or was just more iterative, it was more 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.720 getting that sort of feedback and you just you found 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.000 enjoying it or did you really have that mindset going 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.480 as early as his high school in college saying this. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:39.399 I wanted to be comedian for sure. I wanted to 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:39.960 be comedian. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.000 Was there who. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.040 Are the mentors then? Who were the who were there 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:44.600 people you aspired to be at the time. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:51.560 Well, I loved Steve Martin of course, yeah, he's my favorite. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.000