WEBVTT - Make it Bahrain: Russell King 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.800 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio zern A. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:08.479 So glad you showed up today. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 I know, I found parking and everything nice. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:13.520 Uh do you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:20.080 Yes, sit down on the actor Ving Rams. Okay, he's 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.599 a little he's not ridiculous, aut Elizabeth, don't go for that. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.320 He got his dope ass nickname from his college roommate. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:31.560 His government name is Irving Rams. Yeah, it's Sunny Purchase, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.120 like a state University of New York. Purchase was told 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.480 him he ought to shorten his name to Ving because 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.080 he's more like a Ving than an Irv Irving. He's like, oh, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.960 think of Ving Rams. I mean, boom. Do you know 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:49.440 who that roommate was, Stanley Tucci? Right, that's amazing. But 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.280 that's not what's ridiculous. That's just kind of cool. You 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:56.959 know what's ridiculous. Stanley Tucci and Christopher Juicy Booty Maloney 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.200 have never played brothers in a movie or TV show. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.840 I mean, come on, that's ridiculous. That is absolutely ridiculous. O, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.760 good one, nice work. Do you want to know what 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:12.280 else is ridiculous? Do you promising someone one trillion dollars? 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:34.480 Oh? 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:38.360 This is ridiculous crime A how do you say? Podcast 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:43.880 about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons it's always 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.240 ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred percent what 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:48.560 is it ridiculous? 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:48.840 Oh? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.840 You damn right? Con men? Am I right? Oh? 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:52.920 Tell me about his sister. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.840 I will never stop being fascinated by fraudsters and their 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.760 ability to get people to believe things. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:01.240 I don't know how they do it. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.120 I'm jealous, I get I guess they're so confident in 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.079 their con that they don't show that weakness that sows doubt. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.679 I think that is actually a very big part of it. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.160 Yeah, And as I was reading about the guy that 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.560 I'm going to tell you about today, I kept thinking, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.720 like trying to imagine if I were the one trying 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.280 to pull these things off. Oh really, Yeah, I would 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.519 have been like laughed out of the room or forcibly 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.040 ejected or like arrested every single time. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.400 Actually, I don't know about that, Elizabeth. I think you 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.480 could pull it off if you were convinced that, like 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.280 you needed to do this to save like a boatload 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.440 of like bunnies. You're like, Elizabeth, that guy over there. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.200 If you do not con these three people. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.960 They're gonna hurt all these lovely if you'd figure out 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.200 a way you would do it. You go over, you 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.400 charm them, you get them to believe your lives, and 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:46.480 then they would con them because you'd have the confidence 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.079 of you have to do it. The thing is you 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.040 couldn't do it for yourself because then you know you're 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.880 just conning someone to get some money to you know, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.800 thicken your wallet. Yeah, which ain't your style. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:55.960 Well, I mean it's the act like you know, like 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.160 if you're put into that position, perhaps so con man, 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.440 they act like I know, they act like they're supposed 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.640 to be here, which is what I would do if 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.840 I had to save a boatload of bunnies. Yes, the 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:08.639 guy that I want to tell you about, like he 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.480 acts like he knows, but he doesn't exactly look like 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.280 he should be there. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:14.079 Hmm. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.799 So it's like and that also fascinates me. He's a 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.720 little sloppy and like he wears ill fitting suits okay, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.200 and so but he's this like excellent con man. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.520 Is that to make people like Another part of being 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.200 a con artist is to kind of distract where they 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.440 think the thing is. Be it like, oh, I'm going 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.919 to get this score right. They think I'm getting over 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.280 on somebody, so they stop thinking about themselves. This guy's 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.120 supposed to think he couldn't because he's. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.720 Supposed to run with big money folks. And then the 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.320 whole thing is the impression of this and it's just interesting, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.760 like especially later in his career. He there's like a 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.240 British documentary that runs into him. Ah and like you 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.280 see him and you're just like, oh that guy is he. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:57.800 Makes sloppy work for him. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.280 Yeah, kind of, I don't know. It's interest. So he's 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.440 an excellent con man. He's like a mega con man, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:09.600 a con man sometimes called the trillion dollar con man 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:10.720 with a tea? 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.000 Is this cat? 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.440 Russell King is his name? Never heard of him? He's 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.880 a mysterious figure. I've been trying to get biographical information 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.719 on him, and I've completely come up empty, over and 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.920 over again. Really, all I know he was born in 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.000 nineteen fifty nine, but I don't know where. I don't 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.839 know anything about his upbringing, so like who knows? And 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.479 I would say who cares? But it would be helpful 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.280 to know much more about his background to better understand 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.840 like his motivations. Sure, the angles he. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.800 Works his compulsions. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.040 Yeah, the first time he bubbles up is in the 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:47.120 early eighties, and he was known then as this entrepreneur 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:48.960 with a really extravagant lifestyle. 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:49.880 It was early twenties. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:54.799 Yeah, he loved fast cars, high life. He was chairman 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:58.120 of a company that owned media publications. It was called 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.800 Celebrity Group Holdings, and at one point they wanted to 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:05.559 buy the world's oldest toy store, Hamley's in London. Okay, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.239 that didn't pan out, so they went after Zodiac Toys, 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:14.360 not associated with the Killer Ah, okay, more the inflatable watercraft. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.279 It was the UK's biggest toy store at the time, 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.960 Zodiac Zodiac Toys, not the Killer. No, they just sold 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:28.520 a lot of hoods and decoder sets. It was exactly. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.599 It was just like chain of shops. They'd been in 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.040 business from the sixties and they had been purchased two 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.280 years prior by this other retail group who tried like 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:42.720 new merchandising methods that didn't really translate to toysure and 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.080 so king he bought it up and then it quickly folded, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:51.200 so more than ninety shops closed. Oh when this all 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.920 fell apart down, But around that time nineteen ninety one, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.200 he reported his Aston Martin stolen and it was worth 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.520 And this is what I couldn't believe. I checked multiple 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:07.840 sources for this number. It was worth six hundred thousand pounds. Okay, well, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.000 nineteen ninety one. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.320 It wasn't a new one, right, it must have been 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:12.240 like a customer. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.520 I don't know. There was one article called it some name, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.240 and I don't recall off the top of my head something. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.320 But when I looked it up, that was a car 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.599 from the two thousands, So it wasn't this. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.240 And it wasn't the James Bond one from the sixties, to. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.000 Say, but a six hundred thousand pound car is ridiculous. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:29.040 In the fifties. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.360 I think that one's absolutely ridiculous. But anyway, I mean, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.040 So he contacts his insurance company, yes, and they, of 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.080 course they do some digging, not a whole lot, because 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:43.120 they found the car in his garage. This d Jesus whoops. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.080 So he gets busted for insurance fraud. He did two 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.400 years in prison for it, and Celebrity Group went into 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.000 liquidation while he was inside. Okay, and then Credit Corps 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.720 sued the company for six hundred and eighty four thousand 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.279 pounds alleging fraud by the celebrity group Boarded and so 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.480 then like so that bubbles up in the press, and 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.360 then it's about ten years before King pops up again. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.120 I don't know what he's doing in those ten. 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.720 Years in the UK. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.560 He's in the UK. So this time it's around like 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.120 the mid two thousands. He's part of a company called 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.840 Belgravia Financial Services Group, okay, which just you know, sound 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.000 well it's a neighborhood in London and it's trying to 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.520 be sort of posish. But the company based in Jersey 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.800 is I'm sure you know, as an island between England 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.440 and France. It's the biggest of the Channel Islands. And 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:38.080 it's a self governing British Crown dependency and that means 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.960 it has its own financial, legal and judicial systems, and 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.440 it also it should come in as absolutely no surprise 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.000 to you that I Google street viewed the place and 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.200 I am desperate to go there really, to Jersey. Oh yeah, completely, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.960 Oh man, it's a blend of English and French and 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.200 it's beautiful. I'd go and like drop the little map 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.800 guy and random and be like, oh are you kidding me? 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.720 To my empty office over and over and over again. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:08.040 So financial services makes up forty of the goods and 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.000 services produced by this thing. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.680 I know about what they do. Yeah, basically money laundering 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.880 type stuff that seems like. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.080 And that that's why it wasn't weird that Belgravia Financial 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.600 Services Group was located on this like relative smell kind 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.240 of a red flag. Yeah. So two thousand and four, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:28.720 this guy named Duncan Hickman set up Belgravia, as we'll 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.679 call it, and at some point Russell King came on board. Okay, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.240 and he and his wife lived in Jersey too, so 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.120 that's where he's living at that point. I guess he'd 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.439 moved there from England. Two thousand and five Belgravia Belgravia 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:46.600 made a move to buy Newcastle United the soccer Wow. Yeah, 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.800 that did not go through, but it sets the stage 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.800 and hints at what's to come. So the next year, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.720 two thousand and six, King he had a property in 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.560 Hampshire and the place was like so big that he 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.280 employed domestic staff there. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.440 Can we call it old Hampshire? So I know which 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:05.679 one is. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.559 It's Old Hampshire and Old Jersey. This is just helping 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:14.640 me so he has like this huge manse So I 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.600 don't know what exactly he's doing that. He's like, he's 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.080 in quote financial services. Who's to say. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.120 I think he's one of those people in the British 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.120 finance world who just kind of moves paperwork for people 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.640 who are actually money laundering through the British territories exactly 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:29.319 Cayman Islands. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:30.600 Kind that's what's happening. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.800 Yeah, he's like, oh, mon sac fons sake, I know 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:33.480 all about that. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.920 One of his workers, Nicolette McAvoy, she's married to a 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.440 man who was injured on the job at a construction 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:47.040 site legitimately legitimately, and King and his wife they connected 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.320 the husband with a lawyer for him to get like 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.000 the absolute most he could out of his claim, because 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.920 he was originally set to get seventy five thousand pounds, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.200 but he wound up getting two hundred and sixty eight 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.240 thousand pounds after working with the lawyer. So King and 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.160 his wife they're living in their place in Jersey and 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.839 these guys are working up in Hampshire and they offer 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.560 the McAvoy's jobs down in Jersey and they accepted and 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.960 they moved to the island. So missus McAvoy, she made 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.240 one and fifty pounds a month as a housekeeper. Okay, sure, yeah, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.760 the reason that's good, you know, like in the early aughts. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.080 Yeah, I haven't hired a housekeeper in y forever. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.160 Well here it gets sweeter though, because the husband works 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.640 there too. In this compensation. King rented a four bedroom 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.800 place for them one hundred yards from the giant farmhouse, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.000 and so he pays it. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.360 Is making them caretakers, right, so to speak. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.480 So they have this this, this place that he's rented 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.240 for them in his name, so they're not paying any 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.600 any rent. So the twelve to fifty a month that's income. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.040 That's just income. And it seems like everything's going to 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.040 be okay for them at this point. So after all 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.240 of mister McAvoy's claim money came in, King and then 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:03.080 that guy Dunk and Hickman who started Belgravia, they convinced 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.360 the couple to put their money in a fund controlled 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.640 by Belgravia. Yeah, why not. They've hurdle the money. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.000 They've already gotten them a bigger payout. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.240 They're good with their money. So they invested two hundred 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.080 thousand pounds and McAvoy said quote, I was promised a 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:23.400 rate of interest between twenty and twenty five percent, the 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.960 sort of money that sets you up for life or 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.360 should be a or should be a giant red flag. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.520 Please everybody know that you don't get returns like that, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:33.240 and it's. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.400 Too good to be true, as they say it most 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.600 likely really. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.080 So McAvoy he wanted to enjoy some of the money 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.760 he'd been generating, and so he and his family they 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.400 wanted to buy a house. And he was told that 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.880 he had four hundred and twenty thousand pounds in the account. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.920 But King was like, you know what, leave alone, leave alone, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.719 don't touch it. Growing take out a mortgage. Do the mortgage. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.559 But McAvoy's like, no, I want the money. So they 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.679 start having this like back and forth, and that's when 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.920 the trouble started. This is what macavoy said. Quote. I said, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.880 I wanted to close the fund and get my money. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.440 King responded with total hostility. I was treated really badly. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.680 I left the job straight away. In the week that happened, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.880 I got a letter from the landlord's solicitors saying that 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.200 the rent had not been paid on the property over 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.199 the last year. King was meant to have been paying it. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.520 Oh his name isn't on the lease though, right, only 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:27.600 King's only Kings. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:28.800 But he's about to get the boot. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.480 Yeah, so he just finds out that he would have 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:32.640 been getting this news. 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.840 Otherwise, exactly exactly, so he said quote. I confronted him 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.480 on the phone, and he said it was none of 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.319 my business. I said he had to sort it out 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.600 straight away, and he said he would deal with it 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.800 in his own time. The next day, my wife was dismissed. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.360 Oh yeah, he can't pay a check, are Yeah, so 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.520 they're just they're twisted in the wind. Two thousand and eight, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.040 Hickman died and it was it was sudden that it 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.120 was unexpected. It was a blood clod. It wasn't anything nefarious, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.400 yea right, But Russell King took it as an opportunity 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.240 to make his move. So he starts just selling off 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.000 Hickman's stuff, like unbeknownst to Hickman's wife. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.960 Oh so it's not even like does he have like 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:12.559 next of kin. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.119 He's got a wife sitting collectibles, all of his humble figurine, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.679 selling them off, all of his cut crystal. And then 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.880 he turns around and he just bleeds Belgravia Financial Services 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.920 Group Dry just drains it. So in the course of 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.920 three months he managed to pull out six hundred and 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.320 seventy one thousand pounds and hide it in Swiss bank accounts. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.400 Belgravia obviously goes under the Macavoys. They're still trying to 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.400 get their money back, but at this point that's just 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.640 never going to happen. Meanwhile, King he's living it up, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.360 first class airfare everywhere. He stays at the Ritz Carlton, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.080 he dines at fine restaurants and all those fast cars 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.680 that he loves, and he's also acting like he has 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.640 absolutely nothing to do with this whole mess. So he 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.440 became known for never being a sonociated on paper with 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.800 any of his cons so like he wasn't on the 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:09.360 on the lease, Belgrave, somebody else, Belgravia, Belgravia, I don't know. 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.880 Let's say it both ways, Belgravia. He's never on paper, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.880 and then when he was, he'd deny it. His famous 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:22.440 response to everything was quote, I have never been a shareholder, director, trustee, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.240 or beneficiary like and then of whatever operation he was 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.120 being questioned about, so it was just always I've never 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:36.160 been a shareholder, director, trustee or beneficiary like just overcially exactly. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.800 So his lawyers told the press that quote King acted 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.880 as a spokesman for Belgravia, which collapsed last year, but 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.000 deny he had any formal connection to the group. Mister 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.240 King's family was a declared investor in Belgravia, and consider 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.880 that it is owed a substantial amount of money, said 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.440 a spokesman. So they're victim too. Yeah, but mister King 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.800 never worked for, nor was he a director of BFSG, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.200 which is the entity being investigated, and would like to 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.840 put on the record that it was he who called 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.600 in City of London police. So yeah, he's trying to 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.640 be the victim here. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.680 Trying to be a spokesmodel and event and a victim. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.640 I love that he's the spokesman. Two thousand and eight 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.280 busy year for him. He somehow managed to get a 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:26.280 forty nine percent share of First London Bank and like 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.440 this somehow is that? He said he was managing billions 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.520 of dollars for the Bahraini royal family. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.280 So sweat equity. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.920 Yeah, I managed billions with a bee. They bought this, 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.320 The people bought a First London Bank bought this. That 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.320 wasn't all, he said he had a huge international mining 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.320 company and that the mining company had a deal with 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.440 the country to be able to mine all of their coal, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.640 gold and minerals. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:54.880 You know, cobalt and stuff. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:02.560 North Korea. Yeah, so he goes around telling everyone that 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.400 it's one of the biggest mining companies in the world. Huh, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.240 and that the assets were worth nearly two trillion dollars. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.360 It's with a tea, yes, And oh, by the way, 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.600 they're about to go public soon and then watch out 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.120 because there's gonna be even more money. 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:17.479 North Korea loves capitalism. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.960 That's one thing they always say about. Everyone's going to 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.320 want to get a piece of it. You want to 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.520 get in on that market. Like, hey, had anyone in 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.640 the mining industry heard of this company? 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.680 No, of course not, does the country company even exist? 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.440 But first London Bank was like, oh my god, you're amazing. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.360 Did he have like really fancy PaperWorks with the seal. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:37.560 And like golden Boss. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.280 Yeah, they're like, look at that seal. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.160 With the first London deal set, he really did take 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.000 on forty nine percent of the shares and that was 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.520 based solely young false confirmations from the Royal family of Rain. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.800 So then he sets his sights on a new target. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.280 Let's take a break, we come back. I'm going to 0:16:55.320 --> 0:17:19.000 introduce you to that target, Zara Elizabeth Zaren. Can I 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.600 introduce you to the Bahraini royal family. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.040 Before we get there? This guy's this King that you've 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:25.960 been telling me about. He's of no relation to the 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.320 American grifter Sean King. Right, just happened to be similar 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:30.000 last names. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.480 Maybe they're cousins. I just wanted to I was like, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:33.920 family resemblance. I'm noticing it. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.040 But as you were saying, go ahead, I'd like to 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:37.600 meet this Bahraini royal family. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.639 Well, we're not going to meet them just yet. What 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.879 I wanted I want to do is is talk about 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.600 some other stuff. Other stuff. Oh my god, you like 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.240 that show Ted Lasso, right? 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:50.760 Oh, but the soccer and then the coach and the 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.560 mustache and I do I enjoy that? 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:54.800 Yeah? 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.960 I don't know anything about it because I don't watch teev. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.080 I like Roy, I don't have to hear you're gonna. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.560 Go no, I'm not. I watched it and I loved it. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.080 It's funny, it's poignant, it's insightful. My goodness, the characters, 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:13.480 like you said, Roy, those writers created like really fantastic, nuanced, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.800 layered characters, yes, and fun love stories. Yeah. And then 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.000 and they kept surprising as they evolved, not like an oh, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.520 it's an evil twin way, but like it was never cheap. Yeah. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.000 Then there's the football or the soccer angle. We got 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.000 ted fish out of water learning the nuance of the 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.520 beautiful game is pale called and we're just starting to 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.600 get hep to that in the US. So like Major 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.080 League Soccer as it's called here is really growing and 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.240 they're great teams with huge talent. And then we have 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.560 our own little team here, Oakland Roots. Yes, Marshan Lynch 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.680 is one of the owners, as am I. I too 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.960 am an owner, Yes, and so is producer Dave. So 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.119 is producer Dave. It's a fan collective, but I really 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.320 do like preferring to myself as a team owner. It's 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.160 fun and especially with like the departure of the A's 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.480 may I spit on their grave, people have really gravitated 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.479 towards the room. I've noticed that. Yeah, the games are 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:11.479 super fun. It's like a really collegial atmosphere. I enjoyed 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.480 the game, Yes, it's yeah, you had a good time. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.040 It took me to that one that was as an owner. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.399 I gott to sit in the owner's box. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.639 That was awesome. Yeah. I think one of the benefits 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.840 is there aren't really ever any away team fans there. Yeah, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.879 that's just all roots fans singing songs and like rocking, 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.000 all the cool merch. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.200 And all the good Oakland A's vibe has translated really 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.240 well for that kind yeah. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.479 Yeah, so other parts of the world have that, but 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.679 like in a more intense manner. And I mentioned ted Lasso, 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:43.040 So let's talk English football Premier League kind of like 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.800 with the NFL or college football. Here fans are serious 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.800 and they're rabbit they oh yeah, And it's very location specific, 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.240 so like people in the US, they'll cheer for college 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.080 teams like that they didn't attend the institution. Always point 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.240 that out. It drives you nuts. Never been to that place. 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.840 That's not what it's about you. I've never been Tribbeth. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.879 They're just saying, I'm a member of this tribe. You 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.520 don't have to go to the college to be a 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:10.480 member of the tribe. 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.840 That's how you viewed, or at least set foot on 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.840 the campus is showing. I'm just telling me Oh my god, 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.560 my snob shows all day every day. I have friends 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.680 who cheer for teams in like Alabama, like you've ever 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.280 been there? No, no, never set foot in the state, 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:30.960 but roll tide it so like they haven't ever been 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.240 in the same state, let alone. Okay, So how it 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:34.679 works a. 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.359 Football Yeah, definitely, Baseball, basketball, almost every American sport. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.400 Which is your addition, Buffalo fan? 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.840 Yeah, Buffalo bells. Yeah, yeah, so I've been to Buffalo though, 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:46.320 that's true. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.400 Okay, So I'll allow it, as I always like to say, 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:50.080 I'll allow it. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:51.840