WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Monday Hour One 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getti and Pee armsty Strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Not live from Studio c Armstrong and Getty. We're off,

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<v Speaker 2>or one more thing. We think you'll enjoy it. Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>the Sherry.

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<v Speaker 4>Peppini that's out there, it's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not real.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just this version of me that has been created

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<v Speaker 4>to fit the narrative for the media's version of what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dang, Sherry Peppini is a victim of the media.

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<v Speaker 2>I was afraid of the media.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you remember the Sherry Peppini story.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna gonna lay that out for you again. We

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it a lot when had happened here in

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<v Speaker 3>the Armstrong and Getty Show. For one reason, because when

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<v Speaker 3>she was found it was like a mile from my

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<v Speaker 3>house on County Road seventeen north of Woodland, California near

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<v Speaker 3>I five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was really close to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was like, what, this abducted woman got dropped

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<v Speaker 3>off by my house, held by castickers for.

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<v Speaker 2>Four days or however long it was, including two Hispanic women.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's hear a little more. There's I guess there's

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<v Speaker 3>a documentary coming out. I'm guessing the documentary does not

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<v Speaker 3>treat her well. This is the documentarian and Sherry Peppini.

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<v Speaker 5>The ID series Sherry Peppini caught in the line the

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<v Speaker 5>so called supermom sharing another version of that for mis

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<v Speaker 5>twenty sixteen kidnapping hoax that captivated the country.

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<v Speaker 4>The story that the world thinks they know is that

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<v Speaker 4>I am a master manipulator who's fooled everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my magic one.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm gonna do ridiculous things because some of this

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<v Speaker 4>is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're listening to a crazy person, Yeah, gesticulating for

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<v Speaker 3>the camera and like being over dramatic, then admitting she

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<v Speaker 3>was faking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, we don't think you're a master manipulator. We

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<v Speaker 2>think you're a pinhead who thought she could get away

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<v Speaker 2>with something dumb, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Within moments of you showing up in the ditch near

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<v Speaker 3>my house. The story came out with the details and everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>but that don't sound right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the cops were like, wait a minute, so called

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<v Speaker 2>super mom, she's married with two kids. Uh, let's roll on.

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<v Speaker 5>In April of twenty two, Puppinie pleading guilty to lying

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<v Speaker 5>to federal investigators about her disappearance. She's done a plea deal,

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<v Speaker 5>saying she knowingly planned and participated in her own hoax kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 5>Now Peppini changing her story yet again, claiming she really

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<v Speaker 5>was abducted and assaulted by James Rayes.

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<v Speaker 4>There was no master plan, there was no hoax kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a cover up of what happened, and I

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<v Speaker 4>participated in.

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<v Speaker 2>The cover up.

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<v Speaker 5>Rayes had previously told investigators the Peppini caused her own

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<v Speaker 5>injuries and that, at her request, he branded her with

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<v Speaker 5>a wood burning tool. Investigators say he passed a polygraph

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<v Speaker 5>test and was duped by Peppini.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you don't know this story and the details

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<v Speaker 3>are being filled in, and I'll get to a little, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>some of the background here in a segment. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 3>she her hair was cut, she'd been branded. Was she

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<v Speaker 3>did herself or she's claiming this guy did or whatever

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<v Speaker 3>at her request. I mean, that's some that's some commitment

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<v Speaker 3>to your hoax branding yourself. Mum, you gotta admire that, huh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I do? I? She didn't just go halfway on

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<v Speaker 2>her made up story. She went all the way and

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<v Speaker 2>then a pretty decent question, why would we believe you?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna just for the plot that that's her

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<v Speaker 2>ex boyfriend who she went to spend a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days with because she was tired of being wife and

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<v Speaker 2>mom supermom right, and he let her in because it

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<v Speaker 2>was his hot ex girlfriend. He was thinking, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe she's back or not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, but now she's saying, no, maybe she's back.

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<v Speaker 2>She's kind of crazy, but yeah, I'm a little lonely.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, what the hell? It was pretty good when

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<v Speaker 2>it last, did uh? And now two years however, many

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<v Speaker 2>years later, she's saying no, no, no, no, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, Now here's the real truth. He a

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<v Speaker 2>dead man. Damn. Wow. Wow, let's hear her explain herself.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a convicted liar, So tell me why we should

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<v Speaker 2>believe you.

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't you ever lied? Have you ever lied in your

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<v Speaker 2>history of existence.

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<v Speaker 6>And then has that lie been blown up and broadcasted.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the world. It's so much more complex.

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<v Speaker 4>Than just pointing the finger and saying you're a liar.

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<v Speaker 6>And I wish, I wish more than anything, I could

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<v Speaker 6>have been more truthful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was worth it bringing it up, bringing this up,

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<v Speaker 3>to play that clip. I gotta play that for my

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<v Speaker 3>kids at home. Whenever you get I cut up with

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<v Speaker 3>a chick who sounds like this, that's your takeaway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good takeaway. Oh my god, Wow, wow, a

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<v Speaker 2>hot mess. So yeah, no kiddingdwich. Well that's another one.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm guessing she got some money out of this

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<v Speaker 2>or was convinced by these filmmakers that this is your

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<v Speaker 2>chance to set the record straight, because that's how you

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<v Speaker 2>dupe somebody into doing this. But from the department of

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<v Speaker 2>stop digging, right, yet another round with this guy. She's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy though, she's It's like the Olympics. Every four years

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<v Speaker 2>she comes around and entertains us with her her craziness.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like the Olympics. Every four years we get an update.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I like gymnastics.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sherry Peppini story. The real story is I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, dateline twenty twenty nine. I was

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<v Speaker 2>not abducted by my ex boyfriend. It was space aliens

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<v Speaker 2>and they probed my anus. That'll be the hook, all right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me read a little from the Wikipedia. Sherry's husband,

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<v Speaker 3>Keith Peppini, first became concerned when he returned from his

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<v Speaker 3>job at Best Buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor son of a gun and his kids. Let's not

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<v Speaker 2>forget that two kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I'mber second twenty sixteen, so this is shortly before Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 3>which plays a role in this, and could not find

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<v Speaker 3>his wife at home. He eventually used define my iPhone

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<v Speaker 3>application to locate her cell phone and earbuds at the

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<v Speaker 3>intersection of Sunrise Driving Old Organ Trail, about a mile

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<v Speaker 3>from their home. Okay, that's up by reading California if

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<v Speaker 3>you know where that is, which is like a two

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<v Speaker 3>and a half hour drive from where she ended up,

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<v Speaker 3>according to Shasta County Sheriff. In interviews, Peppini said she

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<v Speaker 3>was helped by two Hispanic women who took steps to

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<v Speaker 3>keep their faces hidden from her, either by wearing masks

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<v Speaker 3>or keeping Peppini's head covered. Peppini was branded on her

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<v Speaker 3>right shoulder during her purported captivity with the word Exodus.

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<v Speaker 3>When investigators questioned Sherry at a later date, she claimed

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<v Speaker 3>that it looked like a verse from the Book of Exodus.

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<v Speaker 3>According to a statement by her husband, Sherry was physically

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<v Speaker 3>abused during their captivity, had her nose broken and her

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<v Speaker 3>hair cut off, and weighed eighty seven pounds when.

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<v Speaker 2>She was released. Well, she was only gone for four days.

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<v Speaker 2>How much weight can you look? Was in four days?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it just four days? Wasn't that long? Was it

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<v Speaker 2>was Thanksgiving? Maybe it was longer? Okay, all cepried even

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<v Speaker 2>that's something.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, the sheriff said it was still an

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<v Speaker 3>active investigation and authorities were looking for a dark colored

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<v Speaker 3>suv with two Hispanic females armed with a handgun.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when we were talking about this all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Detectives had authored close to twenty search warrants, including some

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<v Speaker 3>in Michigan, and said they were examining cell phone records,

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<v Speaker 3>bank accounts, e mails, social media profiles. The FBI was involved.

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<v Speaker 3>Peppinie was found with both male and female DNA on

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<v Speaker 3>her neither of which matched her or her husband. The

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<v Speaker 3>FBI ran the samples blah blah blah. In March, the

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<v Speaker 3>oh the DNA found on her clothing they eventually figured

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<v Speaker 3>out matched her ex boyfriend, James Reese, who she now

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<v Speaker 3>says is the guy that branded her and held her,

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<v Speaker 3>who confirmed that Peppini stayed with him at his residence

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<v Speaker 3>in southern California during the time she was allegedly kidnapped.

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<v Speaker 3>Have we heard much from him about what that was

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<v Speaker 3>like the the week or so that they spent together.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that just you know, loving bliss with sex, holding

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<v Speaker 3>hands and watching Netflix? Or was she as crazy as

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<v Speaker 3>she seems to be that whole time and he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do I get her out of here?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing the second, because everybody said they did not

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<v Speaker 2>have sex at the time. Wow, what did they do

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<v Speaker 2>there the whole time? Netflix? Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>In March of twenty twenty two, she was arrested by

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<v Speaker 3>the FBI, accused of lying to fade her allegiance, faking

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<v Speaker 3>her kidnapping to spend time with her ex boyfriend away

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<v Speaker 3>from her husband and family. Which makes you a very

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<v Speaker 3>very bad person. Although I think she is completely crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Got thirty three counts of male fraud and all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of different things because of the way the law works.

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<v Speaker 3>In September twenty second, this is probably all in the documentary.

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<v Speaker 3>She apologized and accepted full responsibility at her sentencing hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Accept full responsibility as opposed to who else? Really, you're

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<v Speaker 3>taking responsibility for the whole disappearing on your family, cutting

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<v Speaker 3>your hair, branding yourself, claiming some Hispanic women abducted you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're taking using the good name of Hispanic women everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>you monster. Did we ever believe this had happened? Or

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<v Speaker 2>were we at first? Yeah? But as soon as the

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<v Speaker 2>facts of her abduction came out, it was like, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>Which is how that poor couple of Pedaluma, so many

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<v Speaker 2>people suspected them. If you remember this case in Pedaluma, California,

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<v Speaker 2>who were alleging this bizarre, utterly illogical, really stupid kidnapping,

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<v Speaker 2>And it turns out it was a mentally ill former

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<v Speaker 2>marine who did all the exactly what the claim he did.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was so stupid and illogical it sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>the Sherry Peppini thing. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time of her kidnapping, her disappearance was featured

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<v Speaker 3>extensively in national news true crime programs. Front cover of

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<v Speaker 3>People magazine. The outlets continue to cover the story after

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<v Speaker 3>the hoax was confirmed, including multiple true crime documentaries, News

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<v Speaker 3>Magazine and News Magazine episode Whooping Cough, and podcasts. There

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<v Speaker 3>have been Lifetime shows, there have been Netflix shows. There've

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<v Speaker 3>been this crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Biach is a cottage industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Who Who's a limited documentary series Perfect Wife, The mysterious

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<v Speaker 3>disappearance of Sherry Peppini, not that mysterious. Eminem references the

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<v Speaker 3>kidnapping hoax and his song Houdini, That's funny. I heard

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<v Speaker 3>that on the radio just the other day, and I

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<v Speaker 3>heard that, and I thought, I wonder how many people

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<v Speaker 3>get that line with the line caught sleeping and see

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<v Speaker 3>the kidnapping never did happen, like Sherry Peppini, Harry Houdini,

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<v Speaker 3>I vanished in the thin air as I'm leaving me.

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<v Speaker 2>So I heard that just the other day, and I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>how many people get that? I understand we have a

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<v Speaker 2>new cut. That's the husband in an interview from last year,

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<v Speaker 2>when he first saw her at the hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>When you first encountered her in the hospital, was your

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<v Speaker 5>first instinct?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the look in her eyes.

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<v Speaker 7>I felt in that moment that she was lying and

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<v Speaker 7>It wasn't until when I really got close and I

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<v Speaker 7>could just see the amount of injuries, bruises, burns to

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<v Speaker 7>her body, and it was a shock to me. And

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<v Speaker 7>I remember thinking, how horrible of me to even think

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<v Speaker 7>that she could have done this to herself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wonder how quickly he got to reality and

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<v Speaker 3>then if he was ever in like a period of

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<v Speaker 3>jealous anger over the fact that she went to see

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<v Speaker 3>an ex boyfriend, or if he just immediately was able

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<v Speaker 3>to go to she's completely mentally ill. I can't be

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<v Speaker 3>angry at a mentally ill person. She's completely crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to.

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<v Speaker 3>Brand yourself, give yourself bruises, I mean, you're completely crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't you're making a bigger deal of the

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<v Speaker 2>branding yourself because somebody likes that. I mean, you press

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<v Speaker 2>something hot to yourself, it will scar you immediately and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll hurt. But I mean, it's not like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>sizzling cattle brand or something. Now, you know, Joe soft peddling.

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<v Speaker 2>Self branding is a well the work of nut jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's I think it could have been

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<v Speaker 2>harder for this guy because I mean, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>she's completely crazy. Now she's not a babbling psychotic. She's

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<v Speaker 2>a manipulative narcissist. And that's a slower road to travel

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<v Speaker 2>than Oh my god, my wife has lost a grip

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<v Speaker 2>on reality because she hasn't. She's not psychotic, she's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, back in the day they call it, would

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<v Speaker 2>have called her extremely neurotic. She's some borderline personality disorder.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I'm gonna play that one clip for my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever meet a woman who sounds anything like this, none, No,

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<v Speaker 3>what if she's hot? Dad doesn't?

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<v Speaker 2>Matt in facts extra No, yes, yes, run run run,

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<v Speaker 2>give us, just get us thirty five again, Michael, to

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it.

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<v Speaker 6>Up and we'll go to break the sherry peppini that's

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<v Speaker 6>out there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not me, she's not real.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just this version of me that has been created

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<v Speaker 4>to fit the narrative for the media's version of what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Cuckoo, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getti The Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty Show, The arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong and Getty Show I mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>My neighbors are making me feel bad about myself and

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<v Speaker 3>super super nice people in this new neighborhood that I

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<v Speaker 3>live in, But my picture of them from my driveway is.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only had a couple of conversations with them. A

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<v Speaker 3>few conversations been their kids, that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>But my picture of them for my driveway, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>seeing their Facebook page with all the achievements and everything

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<v Speaker 3>that all the time, they're always up earlier than me

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<v Speaker 3>my kids. They're always out exercising, like with the kids,

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<v Speaker 3>bike rides and all this different sort of stuff. On

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<v Speaker 3>Sundays they're up early and the kids are all dressed

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<v Speaker 3>up and they get to church. Every time I go

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<v Speaker 3>to the gym, he's there. It's like, are there two

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<v Speaker 3>of you? How do you do this? I don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>how you do this? Washing their cars in the drive

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like they're constantly doing productive things and and

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<v Speaker 3>like being just soproductive and happy. And it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>I need to move somewhere where the people are like

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<v Speaker 3>just laying around.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in super fit. I need I need to I

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<v Speaker 2>need to live. I need to live.

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<v Speaker 3>Next to people who are like oh bees, laying around

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<v Speaker 3>and even crap, their cars are.

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty, their kids looking right. Yeah, yeah, okay, well you

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<v Speaker 2>have you have three choices to me, all right. Number one,

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<v Speaker 2>there's that choice very attractive. Number two. Number two, you

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<v Speaker 2>could up your game and be as good or better

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<v Speaker 2>than your neighbors. Let's just put that one aside. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's able that, at best third undermine their efforts. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's the option. I'm interested in exploring. What can you

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<v Speaker 2>do to undermine that family their good habits and their happiness? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the best offense is a good defense. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that. Watching the NCAA tournament, Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>God to admit, I'm looking for some downside to make

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<v Speaker 3>myself feel better. It's like, there's gotta be something going

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<v Speaker 3>on over there that's not perfect because it looks perfect. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like they're doing it just to mock me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's their main motivation. Well, let's yeah, that's the key

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<v Speaker 3>is to take it personally.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it only makes sense their excellence is an insult

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Yeah, it's a very productive, a great attitude

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<v Speaker 2>to have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I when I walk out and I see

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<v Speaker 3>them with their kids all dressed up headed to Sunday school.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think my kids are still in bed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just got up myself. Oh my good. Right, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to resent them for that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna come home from church and then wash your

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<v Speaker 3>cars and then you're going to the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's not exactly what my plan is. Wow, well

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<v Speaker 2>have you read He'll Be Elegy? You really should, or

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna read it. We're gonna eat too much bad

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<v Speaker 2>food and go back to sleep. It's sort of our plan,

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<v Speaker 2>but SATs their own exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Geddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Armstrong and Geeddy on demand? We're not boring. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of news is boring and tedious and depressing. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes you angry. You don't want to live your life

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Hey, I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty. We're

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong in Geeddy. We try to bring you the truth

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<v Speaker 2>and help you figure out this crazy modern world. About

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<v Speaker 2>something about a comedic tone.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a one arm Yes, listen to Armstrong You

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<v Speaker 3>Getty on demand on the iHeartRadio, at Apple Podcasts or

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>See Armstrong and Getty show.

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<v Speaker 2>Congress, Congress'll give me a break.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you see her?

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<v Speaker 2>She was out of control?

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<v Speaker 3>Those days are over?

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<v Speaker 2>The days are the days are who?

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<v Speaker 6>No I did?

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<v Speaker 7>The days of.

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<v Speaker 2>Woke are over.

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<v Speaker 3>That woman I don't I have no idea who she

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<v Speaker 3>is that woman was out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>She was shoving federal agents, she was out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>The days of that crap are over in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna have law and order. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That reminds me. I can't let go of this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>I will in a second. But we got a text

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<v Speaker 3>from somebody. How come you guys gloss over Trump's obvious decline?

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<v Speaker 3>Why aren't you talking about that? You know that was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the big pushbacks during the whole Biden thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Trump's rambling or when he gets things wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>which he does, and he does ramble and versus the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but you just heard him that they're not even in

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<v Speaker 3>the same ballpark of mental decline. It's apples and volkswagons

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<v Speaker 3>in terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Of mental decline.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and if you but if you actually believe that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the why I want to bring this up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you actually believe that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the same level of lying to yourself delusion that

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<v Speaker 3>allowed all this to happen because you're so wrong, because.

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<v Speaker 2>You want it so badly to be true. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>take a long look at yourself. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>else to suggest. Always say about looking in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know what introspection is, take a long,

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<v Speaker 2>hard look at yourself. That was Trump commenting on the

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<v Speaker 2>arrest of Democratic New Jersey congress gal Monica mc ivor

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<v Speaker 2>what story, assaulted cops and ice officials and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>then tried to hide behind race and whatever else. The lunatic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the charges against me are purely political. You're a hack,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a liar, you assaulted a cop. Enjoy the criminal

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<v Speaker 2>justice process. I hope it's long in our all.

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<v Speaker 3>In the name of protecting illegal criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, Well, keep going. Good look in that next election.

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<v Speaker 2>So a slightly different topic, but oddly connected. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>great piece by Will Swain in the National Review, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been following California politics and Gavin Newsom's absurdities and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of that. He's also the president of the California

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<v Speaker 2>Policy Center and is California and Will does great work.

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<v Speaker 2>We ought to talk to him someday. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we have. But so he's talking about as so many

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<v Speaker 2>people have. The California Globe has done a good job

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<v Speaker 2>on this too. Gavin Newsom's just shameless gas lighting on

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<v Speaker 2>the homeless crisis, or shameless dodge on the homeless price

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<v Speaker 2>crisis is Will Swain puts it, and how Gavy boy

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<v Speaker 2>had the audacity and just I mean, you almost have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a sense of humor to try to say

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<v Speaker 2>the real problem that caused California's homeless crisis as it

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<v Speaker 2>exists right now is Trump's tariffs. Wow. I mean, like, wow, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy's been governor and you know, a vice governor

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever since was it twenty thirteen, twenty twelve. It

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<v Speaker 2>sits in here somewhere. It's quite a while. And Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>just I mean, I can't even it's not worth the

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<v Speaker 2>time to shoot that down. It's inpetently ridiculous. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just trying so hard to come off as a moderate.

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<v Speaker 2>As he said the other day, I've been always a

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<v Speaker 2>hard headed pragmatist, he told reporters. The hard headed pragmatist

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<v Speaker 2>did not mention that he has increased the state's budget

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<v Speaker 2>by fifty percent since twenty eighteen. I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>funding an array of boutique progressive programs. His green energy

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<v Speaker 2>initiatives have killed the state's oil industry, wall jacking up

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<v Speaker 2>the price gasol into the heist in the nation. He

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<v Speaker 2>remains the state's cheerleader for a high speed rail project that,

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<v Speaker 2>five years after it was supposed to be done, hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>laid a foot of track, but has burned through at

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<v Speaker 2>least thirty three billion dollars and probably more. Nothing screams

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<v Speaker 2>pragmatists like the high speed rail, and most recently, he

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<v Speaker 2>spent a budget busting ten billion dollars to extend medicaid

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<v Speaker 2>benefits to illegal immigrants. He has also spent and this

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<v Speaker 2>brings us to our main topic, twenty four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>more than the annual budget of twenty two states, in

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<v Speaker 2>a feckless effort to solve California's worse than the nation

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<v Speaker 2>homeless crisis. That is where Amy Bublack comes in. Amy

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<v Speaker 2>is the mayor of Turlock, California, which is not terribly

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<v Speaker 2>far from the radio ranch. And we and the crew

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<v Speaker 2>are very very well acquainted with Turlockians and spent many

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<v Speaker 2>fine hours there and have many listeners there, and we

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<v Speaker 2>greet you and thank you for listening. But she's the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Turlock, which nobody has heard of around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the hours leading up to his horrific budget performance,

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<v Speaker 2>which was when he was talking to reporters and said

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a hard headed pragmatist, quoting a swam Here, Newsom

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<v Speaker 2>seems to have had a kind of nineteenth nervous breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Attempting to explain his whop high profile failure to eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>homelessness despite spending billions, he blamed local officials as a taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 2>not just governor. I'm not interested in funding failure anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't time to do your job. This is so rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Californians are vomiting even as they listen. People are dying

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<v Speaker 2>on their watch, dying on their way. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how do these people get re elected? Oh wow, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Look at these encampments. They're a disgrace. They've been there

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<v Speaker 2>for years and years and years. I've heard that same

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<v Speaker 2>rhetoric for years. People are dying, kids are being born.

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<v Speaker 2>They have been there for years and years. While you've

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<v Speaker 2>been governor for years and years. Right, as Red State

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<v Speaker 2>reporter pointed out, it's almost if he hadn't been either

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<v Speaker 2>governor or lieutenant governor since twenty twelve. Mm. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy part. Newsom decides that somebody needs a kicking,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be amy Bou Black of beautiful Turlock, California,

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<v Speaker 2>Central Valley. He reserved his most lethlamo for Boo Black

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<v Speaker 2>in a letter that his office leaked to reporters. She

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<v Speaker 2>first learned of the governor's letter from a political reporter

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or forty minutes before I got it in my email.

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<v Speaker 2>Once she read it, I thought, quote, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>This man knows nothing about homelessness. Homelessness. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to me, of all people, Newsom said to Boo

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<v Speaker 2>Black in the letter, it is imperative that the city

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<v Speaker 2>of reconsiderates priorities and demonstrate the kind of collaborative, accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>and solution oriented leadership that this crisis demands. Enough, do

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<v Speaker 2>your job. Here's what brought that on. The mayor's sin

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<v Speaker 2>and the action that brought her to Gavy Boy's attention,

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<v Speaker 2>her refusal to spend the symbolic sum of one dollar

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<v Speaker 2>that would have unlocked a county homelessness homelessness grant of

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars in state money. Now. Reporters,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, dutifully conveyor belted the governor's letter into the

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<v Speaker 2>state's largest news outlets, and Newsome then promoted their stories

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<v Speaker 2>on x truly a lack of ridiculous, lack of local leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>on absolute moral failure, he declared, throwing the amy bublacks

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<v Speaker 2>of the state under the bus for his policies. California

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<v Speaker 2>has invested billions to combat homelessness in Turlocke. Their only

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<v Speaker 2>shelter is at risk over a single dollar. The state

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<v Speaker 2>has done its part. Local leaders need to step up.

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<v Speaker 2>So why would this monstrous woman not spend a dollar? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she explained that two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>of California taxpayer money laundered through the county and then

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<v Speaker 2>to we Care a homeless shelter in Turlock would have

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<v Speaker 2>come with no accountability. People who live in the homes

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<v Speaker 2>near the center have complained for months about the shelter's residents,

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<v Speaker 2>who are not supposed to be in the facility during

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<v Speaker 2>the day. They pee and poop and shoot up in

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood. They steal from people, garages, the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the mayor says quote, Turlock City Council requested

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<v Speaker 2>a simple reasonable condition that we we Care expand access

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<v Speaker 2>to bathrooms twenty four hours a day, despite multiple discussions

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>where we Care appeared amenable to this condition, they refused

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<v Speaker 2>to make the commitment. Instead, they chose to attend two

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<v Speaker 2>council meetings and publicly attack the council majority, believing public

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<v Speaker 2>pressure and threats would overrize the override thoughtful decision makings.

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<v Speaker 2>And we respect their efforts in addressing homelessness, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>clear that the change in direction was needed. We could

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<v Speaker 2>not in good conscience support a grant that did not

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<v Speaker 2>address core community concerns or deliver greater accountability. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>no more unaccountable quarters of a million dollars. These people

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<v Speaker 2>don't listen, They're not accountable. This is obscene and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not helping the homeless people quote unquote who actually need help.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blowing the whistle on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well find out for that, Kevin knew some attacked or

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<v Speaker 3>as we found out last year, tens and tens and

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<v Speaker 3>ten of gazillions of dollars have been spent all over

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<v Speaker 3>the state without anybody paying any attention to whether it

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<v Speaker 3>did any good or not.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't even a mechanism for it. That's right. When

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<v Speaker 2>they tried to figure out whether there had been any

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<v Speaker 2>results Gavin Newsom had to admit, no, we don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have a way to figure that out. Yeah, and Amy said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to continue down the same path that's

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<v Speaker 2>ruining our town. I'm calling this out and for that, Gavey,

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<v Speaker 2>who's naked lust for the Oval office is just embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go ahead and punch way down to stomp

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Boublack to support his presidential aspirations.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, he's in a tough place given state of California

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<v Speaker 3>over the last several years.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how. I don't know how he runs

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<v Speaker 2>away from it. I don't think he can so. No,

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<v Speaker 2>He's a clever son of a gun for sure, and

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<v Speaker 2>he will try very hard. But I just think there's

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<v Speaker 2>too much weight, you know. I tweeted a great picture

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<v Speaker 2>of a bunch of junkies laying in their own filth

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 2>and garbage everywhere, with the California state capital in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the background. It was taken on Capitol Avenue, Capitol Street, kemdil.

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<v Speaker 2>Very easy to do, Oh yeah yeah, and I captioned it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, Gavin Newsom for president in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight. All fifty states can live the California dream.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way he can run away from his record.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll try, but he will feel miserably and it will

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<v Speaker 2>be a bitterly enjoyable to watch. I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope the Good Lord grants me enough years that

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<v Speaker 2>I witness it personally. Why are you trying to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>six forty eight? So did the Secret Service actually go

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<v Speaker 2>see James Comy?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't interview this morning. Was there anything interesting Hanson there? Comy?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that really revealed the Kmy being even

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<v Speaker 3>more of a dips than I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you do that for?

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<v Speaker 6>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Moron?

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<v Speaker 8>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>You have no judgment whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought his judgment was poor, but it's incredibly poor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if Komy thought he could get away with it,

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<v Speaker 2>he would go around in a crown in a long

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 2>purple road trimmed in white and black ermines.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna read this tweet I came across, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you're you have to be a certain sort of person

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<v Speaker 3>even get it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Tapper's book is like All the President's Men if it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't name any of the men and was written by

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<v Speaker 3>John Erlikhman.

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<v Speaker 2>That is pretty good. If you know you that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>really good.

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<v Speaker 8>More on the way stay here The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 8>More Jack or Joe podcasts and our hot links.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the Big Beautiful Bill. I have announced my departure,

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<v Speaker 2>not only from the Republican Party but all politics. I've

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<v Speaker 2>given up, thrown up my hands. I will be moving

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<v Speaker 2>to Uruguay or Paraguay. I can never remember which one,

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 2>right because I have forgotten. Yeah, well, because I've given up.

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>But I found this very very interesting. Part of my

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>despair is that the Republican Party has abandoned any pretense

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<v Speaker 2>at taming the budget, reducing the deficit, reducing the debt,

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>reigning in wildly out of control entitlement programs. And so

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've got no home. I'm a homeless man.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I have no port in which to pull my little

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 2>boat to safety. But I found this really, really interesting,

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and this is the reason why you know you ought

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>to be on my side. The Trump administration recently promised

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<v Speaker 2>that it will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm going to quote Phil Gram, the Great Philgram,

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<v Speaker 2>Well I was quoting last week, Fiscal conservative slash saying

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<v Speaker 2>of the past. Anyway, the determination not to reform retirement

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 2>benefit entitlements is politically understandable. Third rail blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is no reason to include Medicaid, the nation's

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<v Speaker 2>most abused welfare program, in that pledge means tested welfare

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>or welfare tied to a person's income level or means

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>is the main driver of the budget deficit. It is

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<v Speaker 2>not Social Security, which is almost ninety percent self funded

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<v Speaker 2>by its dedicated payroll tax interest ninety percent self funded,

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>or Medicare, which is fifty percent funded by premiums and

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 2>payroll taxes. Spending on Medicaid IRS, cash welfare payments, and

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<v Speaker 2>supplemental the SNAP program food stamps has grown in inflation

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>adjusted dollars. Those three things. Spending on Medicaid, cash welfare

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>payments that the fundable tax credits and SNAP have grown

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<v Speaker 2>inflation adjusted by six hundred and seventy one percent, fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty three percent, and two hundred and ninety percent,

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<v Speaker 2>respectively since nineteen ninety. By contrast, total real Medicare, Social Security,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 2>and Defense expenditures have grown by three hundred and eighty,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and eighty six percent and thirty eight percent, respectively.

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid numbers, yeah they are actually, but Medicaid absorbs seven

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<v Speaker 2>times as much general revenue as Social Security. Wow, more

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<v Speaker 2>than Social Security and medicare combined. I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know nobody's talking about this. Medicaid is this gigantic monster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Frankenstein if it was the side of Godzilla,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just stomping across the countryside, crushing entire villages.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we talk about people, you know, able bodied

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<v Speaker 3>people leeching off us taxpayers, this is the program where

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah, correct, And it has to do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of me wishes we had time. Part of me

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<v Speaker 2>is glad that we don't uh to explain the bizarre

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>states intentionally tax hospitals and doctors so then they can

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<v Speaker 2>spend more than they can build a federal government more

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<v Speaker 2>for Medicaid. Then the federal government gives them more money

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>for Medicaid, which they then give back to the doctors

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<v Speaker 2>and hospitals, and the stupid, stupid federal taxpayer pays for

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. It's just this giant scam slash scheme.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually have the great Craig Gottwalals on tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 3>probably explain some of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah he did. Yeah, he's a perfect I'd ask

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<v Speaker 2>about this. But it all has to do with Obamacare

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<v Speaker 2>and the Medicaid expansion. Do you remember that? And a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Red states said no, we don't want this money,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were criticized, how dare you deny medical care

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<v Speaker 2>to pay? And the Blue states accepted it. Well. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as has been discussed at least somewhat lately, federal tax

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<v Speaker 2>pay for ninety percent of the bills of healthy, working

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 2>age men who get Medicaid, poor pregnant ladies get I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a third. It's so perverse and upside down.

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<v Speaker 2>One final point, and this is actually the main point

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<v Speaker 2>of Phil Graham's article, which I found really interesting. The

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<v Speaker 2>title is the Census defines the poverty rate Up and Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something you have hit many times through the years.

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<v Speaker 2>But during the War on Poverty, the government adopted a

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>common sense definition of poverty having resources that are not

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<v Speaker 2>enough to meet basic needs. The problem is they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>scale a lot of this to inflation. Some of it

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<v Speaker 2>they did, but they've begun not counting government transfers. Eighty

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>eight percent of government transfers that poor quote unquote poor

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>people get are not counted. When you ask, all right,

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 2>is this person poor? Do they need mo more stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>more aid, that sort of thing, they pretend that all

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the government aid hadn't happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So if you're living on using my finger was

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 3>living on twenty eight thousand dollars a year, somehow they

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 3>only count that for political purposes when they're making arguments.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't count the maybe another eighty thousand dollars you

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<v Speaker 3>might be getting in all kinds of transfer payments, all

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>kinds of different stuff, housing subsidies, food help, medical help,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 3>all kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't count it, and adjusted for inflation. Now those classified

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<v Speaker 2>as poor have almost twenty times the purchasing power they

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<v Speaker 2>had when the War on Poverty began, Yet they're still

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>called poor people for the purposes of growing these programs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have talked about this. Forer is that needs

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 3>to be straightened out. That would be a huge change

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 3>in our politics. We could let more people know that

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 3>are strong.

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<v Speaker 2>See Armstrong and Getty show.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Marjah, Your Shoe podcasts, and our hot links and

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<v Speaker 8>arm