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Speaker 2: the Sherry.

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Speaker 4: Peppini that's out there, it's not me.

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Speaker 2: She's not real.

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Speaker 4: It's just this version of me that has been created

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Speaker 4: to fit the narrative for the media's version of what happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh dang, Sherry Peppini is a victim of the media.

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Speaker 2: I was afraid of the media.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember the Sherry Peppini story.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna gonna lay that out for you again. We

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Speaker 3: talked about it a lot when had happened here in

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Speaker 3: the Armstrong and Getty Show. For one reason, because when

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Speaker 3: she was found it was like a mile from my

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Speaker 3: house on County Road seventeen north of Woodland, California near

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Speaker 2: I mean it was really close to me.

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Speaker 3: So it was like, what, this abducted woman got dropped

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Speaker 2: Four days or however long it was, including two Hispanic women.

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Speaker 3: So let's hear a little more. There's I guess there's

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Speaker 3: a documentary coming out. I'm guessing the documentary does not

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Speaker 3: treat her well. This is the documentarian and Sherry Peppini.

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Speaker 5: The ID series Sherry Peppini caught in the line the

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Speaker 5: so called supermom sharing another version of that for mis

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen kidnapping hoax that captivated the country.

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Speaker 4: The story that the world thinks they know is that

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Speaker 4: I am a master manipulator who's fooled everyone.

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Speaker 2: That's my magic one.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm gonna do ridiculous things because some of this

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Speaker 4: is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're listening to a crazy person, Yeah, gesticulating for

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Speaker 3: the camera and like being over dramatic, then admitting she

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we don't think you're a master manipulator. We

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Speaker 2: think you're a pinhead who thought she could get away

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Speaker 3: Within moments of you showing up in the ditch near

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Speaker 3: my house. The story came out with the details and everybody,

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Speaker 3: but that don't sound right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the cops were like, wait a minute, so called

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Speaker 2: super mom, she's married with two kids. Uh, let's roll on.

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Speaker 5: In April of twenty two, Puppinie pleading guilty to lying

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Speaker 5: to federal investigators about her disappearance. She's done a plea deal,

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Speaker 5: saying she knowingly planned and participated in her own hoax kidnapping.

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Speaker 5: Now Peppini changing her story yet again, claiming she really

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Speaker 5: was abducted and assaulted by James Rayes.

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Speaker 4: There was no master plan, there was no hoax kidnapping.

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Speaker 4: There was a cover up of what happened, and I

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Speaker 4: participated in.

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Speaker 2: The cover up.

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Speaker 5: Rayes had previously told investigators the Peppini caused her own

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Speaker 5: injuries and that, at her request, he branded her with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't know this story and the details

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Speaker 3: are being filled in, and I'll get to a little, uh,

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Speaker 3: some of the background here in a segment. Yeah, she

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Speaker 3: she her hair was cut, she'd been branded. Was she

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Speaker 3: at her request. I mean, that's some that's some commitment

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Speaker 3: to your hoax branding yourself. Mum, you gotta admire that, huh?

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Speaker 2: Do I do? I? She didn't just go halfway on

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Speaker 2: then a pretty decent question, why would we believe you?

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Speaker 2: I was gonna just for the plot that that's her

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Speaker 2: She's kind of crazy, but yeah, I'm a little lonely.

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Speaker 2: So uh, what the hell? It was pretty good when

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Speaker 2: You're a convicted liar, So tell me why we should

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: Haven't you ever lied? Have you ever lied in your

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Speaker 6: And then has that lie been blown up and broadcasted.

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Speaker 2: Around the world. It's so much more complex.

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Speaker 4: Than just pointing the finger and saying you're a liar.

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Speaker 6: And I wish, I wish more than anything, I could

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was worth it.

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Speaker 3: It was worth it bringing it up, bringing this up,

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Speaker 3: to play that clip. I gotta play that for my

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Speaker 3: kids at home. Whenever you get I cut up with

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Speaker 2: It's a good takeaway. Oh my god, Wow, wow, a

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Speaker 2: hot mess. So yeah, no kiddingdwich. Well that's another one.

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Speaker 2: So I'm guessing she got some money out of this

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Speaker 2: or was convinced by these filmmakers that this is your

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Speaker 2: dupe somebody into doing this. But from the department of

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Speaker 2: stop digging, right, yet another round with this guy. She's

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Speaker 2: crazy though, she's It's like the Olympics. Every four years

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Speaker 2: she comes around and entertains us with her her craziness.

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Speaker 2: She's like the Olympics. Every four years we get an update.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like gymnastics.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Sherry Peppini story. The real story is I wasn't

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Speaker 2: This is you know, dateline twenty twenty nine. I was

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Speaker 2: not abducted by my ex boyfriend. It was space aliens

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Speaker 3: Let me read a little from the Wikipedia. Sherry's husband,

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Speaker 3: Keith Peppini, first became concerned when he returned from his

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Speaker 2: Poor son of a gun and his kids. Let's not

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Speaker 2: forget that two kids.

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Speaker 3: I'mber second twenty sixteen, so this is shortly before Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: according to Shasta County Sheriff. In interviews, Peppini said she

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Speaker 3: right shoulder during her purported captivity with the word Exodus.

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Speaker 3: When investigators questioned Sherry at a later date, she claimed

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Speaker 3: According to a statement by her husband, Sherry was physically

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Speaker 2: She was released. Well, she was only gone for four days.

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Speaker 2: How much weight can you look? Was in four days?

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Speaker 3: At the time, the sheriff said it was still an

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Speaker 3: Detectives had authored close to twenty search warrants, including some

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Speaker 3: bank accounts, e mails, social media profiles. The FBI was involved.

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Speaker 3: Peppinie was found with both male and female DNA on

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Speaker 3: In March of twenty twenty two, she was arrested by

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Speaker 2: Which is how that poor couple of Pedaluma, so many

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Speaker 2: But it was so stupid and illogical it sounded like

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Speaker 2: the Sherry Peppini thing. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: At the time of her kidnapping, her disappearance was featured

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Speaker 2: Biach is a cottage industry.

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Speaker 3: Who Who's a limited documentary series Perfect Wife, The mysterious

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Speaker 3: disappearance of Sherry Peppini, not that mysterious. Eminem references the

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Speaker 3: kidnapping hoax and his song Houdini, That's funny. I heard

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Speaker 3: the kidnapping never did happen, like Sherry Peppini, Harry Houdini,

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Speaker 2: So I heard that just the other day, and I thought,

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Speaker 2: I saw the look in her eyes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it only makes sense their excellence is an insult

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Speaker 2: Why Armstrong and Geeddy on demand? We're not boring. A

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Speaker 3: We have a one arm Yes, listen to Armstrong You

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Speaker 2: Congress, Congress'll give me a break.

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Speaker 5: Did you see her?

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Speaker 2: She was out of control?

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Speaker 3: Those days are over?

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Speaker 2: She was shoving federal agents, she was out of control.

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Speaker 2: I won't time to do your job. This is so rich.

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Speaker 2: Californians are vomiting even as they listen. People are dying

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Speaker 2: Central Valley. He reserved his most lethlamo for Boo Black

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Speaker 2: in a letter that his office leaked to reporters. She

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Speaker 2: first learned of the governor's letter from a political reporter

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Speaker 2: thirty or forty minutes before I got it in my email.

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Speaker 2: Once she read it, I thought, quote, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: This man knows nothing about homelessness. Homelessness. He's going to

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Speaker 2: talk to me, of all people, Newsom said to Boo

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Speaker 2: Black in the letter, it is imperative that the city

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Speaker 2: of reconsiderates priorities and demonstrate the kind of collaborative, accountable,

444
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Speaker 2: and solution oriented leadership that this crisis demands. Enough, do

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Speaker 2: your job. Here's what brought that on. The mayor's sin

446
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Speaker 2: and the action that brought her to Gavy Boy's attention,

447
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Speaker 2: her refusal to spend the symbolic sum of one dollar

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Speaker 2: that would have unlocked a county homelessness homelessness grant of

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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars in state money. Now. Reporters,

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Speaker 2: of course, dutifully conveyor belted the governor's letter into the

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Speaker 2: state's largest news outlets, and Newsome then promoted their stories

452
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Speaker 2: on x truly a lack of ridiculous, lack of local leadership,

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Speaker 2: on absolute moral failure, he declared, throwing the amy bublacks

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Speaker 2: of the state under the bus for his policies. California

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Speaker 2: has invested billions to combat homelessness in Turlocke. Their only

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Speaker 2: shelter is at risk over a single dollar. The state

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Speaker 2: has done its part. Local leaders need to step up.

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Speaker 2: So why would this monstrous woman not spend a dollar? Well,

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Speaker 2: she explained that two hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: of California taxpayer money laundered through the county and then

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Speaker 2: to we Care a homeless shelter in Turlock would have

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Speaker 2: come with no accountability. People who live in the homes

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Speaker 2: near the center have complained for months about the shelter's residents,

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Speaker 2: who are not supposed to be in the facility during

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Speaker 2: the day. They pee and poop and shoot up in

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Speaker 2: the neighborhood. They steal from people, garages, the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: And so the mayor says quote, Turlock City Council requested

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Speaker 2: a simple reasonable condition that we we Care expand access

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Speaker 2: to bathrooms twenty four hours a day, despite multiple discussions

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Speaker 2: where we Care appeared amenable to this condition, they refused

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Speaker 2: to make the commitment. Instead, they chose to attend two

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Speaker 2: council meetings and publicly attack the council majority, believing public

473
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Speaker 2: pressure and threats would overrize the override thoughtful decision makings.

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Speaker 2: And we respect their efforts in addressing homelessness, but it's

475
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Speaker 2: clear that the change in direction was needed. We could

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Speaker 2: not in good conscience support a grant that did not

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Speaker 2: address core community concerns or deliver greater accountability. In other words,

478
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Speaker 2: no more unaccountable quarters of a million dollars. These people

479
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Speaker 2: don't listen, They're not accountable. This is obscene and it's

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Speaker 2: not helping the homeless people quote unquote who actually need help.

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Speaker 2: I'm blowing the whistle on this.

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Speaker 3: Well find out for that, Kevin knew some attacked or

483
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Speaker 3: as we found out last year, tens and tens and

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Speaker 3: ten of gazillions of dollars have been spent all over

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Speaker 3: the state without anybody paying any attention to whether it

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Speaker 3: did any good or not.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't even a mechanism for it. That's right. When

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Speaker 2: they tried to figure out whether there had been any

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Speaker 2: results Gavin Newsom had to admit, no, we don't even

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Speaker 2: have a way to figure that out. Yeah, and Amy said, no,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to continue down the same path that's

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Speaker 2: ruining our town. I'm calling this out and for that, Gavey,

493
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Speaker 2: who's naked lust for the Oval office is just embarrassing,

494
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Speaker 2: decided to go ahead and punch way down to stomp

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Speaker 2: Amy Boublack to support his presidential aspirations.

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Speaker 3: Man, he's in a tough place given state of California

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Speaker 3: over the last several years.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how he runs

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Speaker 2: away from it. I don't think he can so. No,

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Speaker 2: He's a clever son of a gun for sure, and

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Speaker 2: he will try very hard. But I just think there's

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Speaker 2: too much weight, you know. I tweeted a great picture

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Speaker 2: of a bunch of junkies laying in their own filth

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Speaker 2: and garbage everywhere, with the California state capital in the

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Speaker 2: in the background. It was taken on Capitol Avenue, Capitol Street, kemdil.

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Speaker 2: Very easy to do, Oh yeah yeah, and I captioned it.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, Gavin Newsom for president in twenty

508
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Speaker 2: twenty eight. All fifty states can live the California dream.

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Speaker 2: There's no way he can run away from his record.

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Speaker 2: He'll try, but he will feel miserably and it will

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Speaker 2: be a bitterly enjoyable to watch. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I hope the Good Lord grants me enough years that

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Speaker 2: I witness it personally. Why are you trying to eighty

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Speaker 2: six forty eight? So did the Secret Service actually go

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Speaker 2: see James Comy?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He didn't interview this morning. Was there anything interesting Hanson there? Comy?

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Speaker 3: I feel like that really revealed the Kmy being even

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Speaker 3: more of a dips than I thought.

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Speaker 2: What'd you do that for?

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Speaker 6: You?

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Speaker 2: Moron?

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Speaker 8: Wow?

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Speaker 2: You have no judgment whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I always thought his judgment was poor, but it's incredibly poor.

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Speaker 2: I think if Komy thought he could get away with it,

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Speaker 2: he would go around in a crown in a long

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Speaker 2: purple road trimmed in white and black ermines.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna read this tweet I came across, and if

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Speaker 3: you're you have to be a certain sort of person

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Speaker 3: even get it.

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Speaker 2: But it's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Tapper's book is like All the President's Men if it

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Speaker 3: didn't name any of the men and was written by

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Speaker 3: John Erlikhman.

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Speaker 2: That is pretty good. If you know you that, that's

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Speaker 2: really good.

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Speaker 8: More on the way stay here The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 8: More Jack or Joe podcasts and our hot links.

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Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 2: Back to the Big Beautiful Bill. I have announced my departure,

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Speaker 2: not only from the Republican Party but all politics. I've

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Speaker 2: given up, thrown up my hands. I will be moving

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Speaker 2: to Uruguay or Paraguay. I can never remember which one,

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Speaker 2: right because I have forgotten. Yeah, well, because I've given up.

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Speaker 2: But I found this very very interesting. Part of my

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Speaker 2: despair is that the Republican Party has abandoned any pretense

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Speaker 2: at taming the budget, reducing the deficit, reducing the debt,

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Speaker 2: reigning in wildly out of control entitlement programs. And so

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Speaker 2: you know, I've got no home. I'm a homeless man.

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Speaker 2: I have no port in which to pull my little

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Speaker 2: boat to safety. But I found this really, really interesting,

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Speaker 2: and this is the reason why you know you ought

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Speaker 2: to be on my side. The Trump administration recently promised

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Speaker 2: that it will not cut Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to quote Phil Gram, the Great Philgram,

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Speaker 2: Well I was quoting last week, Fiscal conservative slash saying

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Speaker 2: of the past. Anyway, the determination not to reform retirement

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Speaker 2: benefit entitlements is politically understandable. Third rail blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But there is no reason to include Medicaid, the nation's

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Speaker 2: most abused welfare program, in that pledge means tested welfare

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Speaker 2: or welfare tied to a person's income level or means

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Speaker 2: is the main driver of the budget deficit. It is

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Speaker 2: not Social Security, which is almost ninety percent self funded

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Speaker 2: by its dedicated payroll tax interest ninety percent self funded,

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Speaker 2: or Medicare, which is fifty percent funded by premiums and

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Speaker 2: payroll taxes. Spending on Medicaid IRS, cash welfare payments, and

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Speaker 2: supplemental the SNAP program food stamps has grown in inflation

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Speaker 2: adjusted dollars. Those three things. Spending on Medicaid, cash welfare

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Speaker 2: payments that the fundable tax credits and SNAP have grown

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Speaker 2: inflation adjusted by six hundred and seventy one percent, fourteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty three percent, and two hundred and ninety percent,

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Speaker 2: respectively since nineteen ninety. By contrast, total real Medicare, Social Security,

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Speaker 2: and Defense expenditures have grown by three hundred and eighty,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty six percent and thirty eight percent, respectively.

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Speaker 2: Medicaid numbers, yeah they are actually, but Medicaid absorbs seven

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Speaker 2: times as much general revenue as Social Security. Wow, more

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Speaker 2: than Social Security and medicare combined. I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I know nobody's talking about this. Medicaid is this gigantic monster.

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Speaker 2: It's like Frankenstein if it was the side of Godzilla,

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Speaker 2: you know, just stomping across the countryside, crushing entire villages.

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Speaker 3: So when we talk about people, you know, able bodied

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Speaker 3: people leeching off us taxpayers, this is the program where

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Speaker 3: they're doing a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, correct, And it has to do. And you know,

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Speaker 2: part of me wishes we had time. Part of me

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Speaker 2: is glad that we don't uh to explain the bizarre

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Speaker 2: states intentionally tax hospitals and doctors so then they can

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Speaker 2: spend more than they can build a federal government more

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Speaker 2: for Medicaid. Then the federal government gives them more money

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Speaker 2: for Medicaid, which they then give back to the doctors

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Speaker 2: and hospitals, and the stupid, stupid federal taxpayer pays for

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Speaker 2: all of it. It's just this giant scam slash scheme.

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Speaker 3: We actually have the great Craig Gottwalals on tomorrow to

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Speaker 3: probably explain some of this.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah he did. Yeah, he's a perfect I'd ask

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Speaker 2: about this. But it all has to do with Obamacare

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Speaker 2: and the Medicaid expansion. Do you remember that? And a

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Speaker 2: lot of Red states said no, we don't want this money,

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Speaker 2: and they were criticized, how dare you deny medical care

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Speaker 2: to pay? And the Blue states accepted it. Well. Now,

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Speaker 2: as has been discussed at least somewhat lately, federal tax

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Speaker 2: pay for ninety percent of the bills of healthy, working

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Speaker 2: age men who get Medicaid, poor pregnant ladies get I

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Speaker 2: think it's a third. It's so perverse and upside down.

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Speaker 2: One final point, and this is actually the main point

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Speaker 2: of Phil Graham's article, which I found really interesting. The

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Speaker 2: title is the Census defines the poverty rate Up and Jack,

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Speaker 2: this is something you have hit many times through the years.

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Speaker 2: But during the War on Poverty, the government adopted a

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Speaker 2: common sense definition of poverty having resources that are not

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Speaker 2: enough to meet basic needs. The problem is they didn't

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Speaker 2: scale a lot of this to inflation. Some of it

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Speaker 2: they did, but they've begun not counting government transfers. Eighty

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Speaker 2: eight percent of government transfers that poor quote unquote poor

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Speaker 2: people get are not counted. When you ask, all right,

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Speaker 2: is this person poor? Do they need mo more stuff,

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Speaker 2: more aid, that sort of thing, they pretend that all

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Speaker 2: the rest of the government aid hadn't happened.

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Speaker 3: Right, So if you're living on using my finger was

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Speaker 3: living on twenty eight thousand dollars a year, somehow they

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Speaker 3: only count that for political purposes when they're making arguments.

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Speaker 3: They don't count the maybe another eighty thousand dollars you

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Speaker 3: might be getting in all kinds of transfer payments, all

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Speaker 3: kinds of different stuff, housing subsidies, food help, medical help,

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Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't count it, and adjusted for inflation. Now those classified

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Speaker 2: as poor have almost twenty times the purchasing power they

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Speaker 2: had when the War on Poverty began, Yet they're still

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Speaker 2: called poor people for the purposes of growing these programs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have talked about this. Forer is that needs

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Speaker 3: to be straightened out. That would be a huge change

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Speaker 3: in our politics. We could let more people know that

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Speaker 3: are strong.

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Speaker 2: See Armstrong and Getty show.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Marjah, Your Shoe podcasts, and our hot links and

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Speaker 8: arm