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Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to all the smoke La. Good to see you, bro,
Speaker 3: my boy, We're yes.
Speaker 4: We got two friends of the program today promoting their
Speaker 4: new film project Legendary Legendary Fellows Welcome to the show,
Speaker 4: too Short and my brother Simba.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 4: So you guys are on a tour right now promoting
Speaker 4: Freaky Tales. How does this type of tour and promotion
Speaker 4: differ from the music side of it or is it similar?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: It's time you just it's the grind, man, when you
Speaker 6: when you got to go out and hit the spots
Speaker 6: and let people know about it.
Speaker 3: You really don't get paid for that.
Speaker 6: So that's that's the part of the grind, the promotional
Speaker 6: side where you know it ain't all listened glamour. I
Speaker 6: personally don't like moving around for free, but but it's
Speaker 6: a part of y'all. Man, You got to you gotta
Speaker 6: get out there and promote. Man, I'm getting on these
Speaker 6: planes waking up early. I think it took me on
Speaker 6: sit almost two hours to drive here this morning, but
Speaker 6: I'm clacking off six thirty.
Speaker 3: Gonna do it, man, But what's it like for you?
Speaker 4: Obviously he's been in the game since shit, we was
Speaker 4: little kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different for you. It's new for you. It's
Speaker 3: newer for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely a newer for me. But it's a
Speaker 5: dope experience, especially sitting alongside him, hearing a lot of
Speaker 5: stories I didn't know, just getting a lot of game.
Speaker 5: But me personally, man, I love it, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I love just being a part of this industry,
Speaker 5: being able to get out here and have something to
Speaker 5: put out to the world and get out here and
Speaker 5: talk about it promoted, and especially something as good as
Speaker 5: Freaky Tales.
Speaker 4: How was the game changed from when you came up
Speaker 4: in it and we're in your prime to what the
Speaker 4: game is now and he's kind of coming up in
Speaker 4: it and entering his prime.
Speaker 3: I was. I was coming in on the wave of
Speaker 3: fun hip hop. You know.
Speaker 6: We got it from New York City and it was
Speaker 6: about rocking the party and you know what I'm wearing
Speaker 6: party rocking. And then it started getting real real serious,
Speaker 6: like run DMC came out of Mellie mel and Grandmaster
Speaker 6: flash the message. But we got in the game, and
Speaker 6: we didn't get in the game to get rich. I
Speaker 6: remember what my dream was when I was a young rapper,
Speaker 6: I really wanted to hear myself on the radio, and
Speaker 6: I really just wanted to whatever the next show was,
Speaker 6: I just wanted to rock the crowd.
Speaker 5: That was it.
Speaker 6: If I could rock the crowd, We're gonna do that.
Speaker 6: But if I hear myself on the radio, I'm like, way,
Speaker 6: we're doing it. It was a big deal, this game
Speaker 6: that they in from the moment they dream of it,
Speaker 6: they go, I'm about to get up in here and
Speaker 6: get it, and not just get famous. I'm about to
Speaker 6: get some paper because the exactly have already been set.
Speaker 6: You can get a lot of money rapping, producing, managing,
Speaker 6: just any part of this hip hop. You just get
Speaker 6: a slice of the pie. It's money in on it.
Speaker 6: So I love the business part of it. I love
Speaker 6: the fact that I survived long enough to be, you know,
Speaker 6: a part of young hip hop when it was just
Speaker 6: dancing and break dancing and we wasn't getting paid for
Speaker 6: a show to you.
Speaker 3: Know, wire the money, bro.
Speaker 6: And I'm watching my young homies come in quick though,
Speaker 6: quick and getting a bad quick because if you get popular,
Speaker 6: you got multiple ways to get money.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing I like about you. Is your
Speaker 3: versatility in this space.
Speaker 4: Obviously you came in and rapping, but you got your
Speaker 4: hands in a little bit of everything, particularly acting now
Speaker 4: with this project.
Speaker 3: But how how has the journey been for you?
Speaker 5: And I think the beauty of what he just said
Speaker 5: was like they paved the way for us to dream bigger,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So they didn't technically have
Speaker 5: the social media's and certain things when they was coming
Speaker 5: up short. They had to get it out the trump
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, to really get to the people.
Speaker 5: So the way to pave the path they took allowed
Speaker 5: us to kind of diversify ourselves and look at things bigger.
Speaker 5: I remember as a kid seeing short movies, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. A lot of people wasn't doing movies
Speaker 5: at that time, but as a kid, that was something
Speaker 5: I wanted to do. Seeing pot you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: seeing DMX, seeing these prominent characters be rappers, but be
Speaker 5: actors and can also do commercials and write films as well.
Speaker 5: So that was just always something I wanted to do
Speaker 5: and it's a blessing that I'm doing it now.
Speaker 7: Playing playing Young Short and Freaky Tails. What was that process? Like,
Speaker 7: I mean, we all grew up and know how you talking,
Speaker 7: know how you rap? How was that process of becoming him?
Speaker 5: Man, it was like the coolest shit ever cause it
Speaker 5: was like I'll be telling the story all the time.
Speaker 5: We was on set one day and I made it
Speaker 5: this theme to not break character while I was on set,
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna be too short, even when I walked
Speaker 5: to the trailer when they cut everything. So I'm getting
Speaker 5: ready to go back to the trailer and have lunch,
Speaker 5: and I got on the old school starter jacket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Green Boys.
Speaker 5: So one of the director, if it was a director,
Speaker 5: somebody was working with the crew. It was like, man,
Speaker 5: that jacket's dope. I was like, thanks, bitch, was.
Speaker 3: Like he was doing with it.
Speaker 5: It was cool as ship to get to just.
Speaker 3: Feel like.
Speaker 7: You played the cop and you also narrate through the movie.
Speaker 7: Well you ever thought you played a cop in the movie.
Speaker 6: I feel like I really didn't play a cop, man.
Speaker 6: I just I just did a cameo. I really didn't
Speaker 6: get it, to know, you know, all the way ice
Speaker 6: team mode and like people and stuff. I just they
Speaker 6: tried to slide me in on the cameo. It was
Speaker 6: a good scene, and uh, you know, I knew I
Speaker 6: was gonna be the.
Speaker 3: Narrator, and I accepted that.
Speaker 6: I was also a part of like some of the
Speaker 6: authenticity parts to the movie where they just need to
Speaker 6: know it was being done right. And yeah, you didn't
Speaker 6: see me with a bad It was just a little
Speaker 6: little pop up for you know. They wanted me to
Speaker 6: say bitch in the movie, so that's how they wrote
Speaker 6: it in.
Speaker 3: I don't know about the cop playing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, unless I can get on that, what's that show?
Speaker 6: I see his own many years?
Speaker 7: Yeah, did you got a star study cast? Did y'all
Speaker 7: get to hang out with Tom Hanks?
Speaker 6: No, Tom Hanks was you pretty much look at that scene.
Speaker 6: That's probably who got to hang out with him? Him
Speaker 6: in Pagro. Yeah, he got up out of there now.
Speaker 6: But Tom Hanks is from Oakland, California. A lot of
Speaker 6: people don't know that, and I think from what I
Speaker 6: heard and the wind, tom Hanks kind of had a
Speaker 6: sort of passion for the script the movie that it
Speaker 6: was shot in Oakland and he just wanted to show
Speaker 6: some love, so he did.
Speaker 3: He did a big cameo big.
Speaker 7: The big theme in the movie is Nazis and my
Speaker 7: skin heads and stuff like that. You did you have
Speaker 7: your own personal experience back in they seventh.
Speaker 3: So I watched the movie.
Speaker 6: I saw the movie actually a couple of years ago
Speaker 6: at one of the early screenings, and.
Speaker 3: I just I was there. Everything is so real about
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 6: I actually talked to some some og punk rockers and
Speaker 6: they said, yeah, them skinheads used to come fuck with us.
Speaker 6: I'm from East Oakland, California. I looked at the movie.
Speaker 6: I was like, we never saw them dudes ever, like ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 6: And I just think it would be so interesting if
Speaker 6: on one of the nights in the truck with the
Speaker 6: fucking shit they ride around fucking with people.
Speaker 3: They pulled up on like a house party in East Oakland,
Speaker 3: well on.
Speaker 6: The corner where niggas was hanging out. That ship would
Speaker 6: have been interesting. But they never came around. I don't
Speaker 6: I talked to all my hommies. I'm like, you remember
Speaker 6: the Skinheads, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I heard about them. I think they was. They was
Speaker 3: going to other areas.
Speaker 5: And one of the dudes, I think he was on
Speaker 5: set when they had remade to guil me the spot
Speaker 5: where the skin heads came to attack him, and he
Speaker 5: started crying because he was like man, remember yea.
Speaker 3: Them, they have to fight them motherfuckers, like they.
Speaker 5: Had to really go through it with them. So we
Speaker 5: probably never seen it. But that was a side of
Speaker 5: the Bay Area that was real, were real quick.
Speaker 3: It was shot in open right. Yeah, what did that
Speaker 3: mean to you?
Speaker 4: Because normally they'll go to Atlanta or find somewhere else
Speaker 4: that's taxing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, from what I hear from people who
Speaker 6: had problems shooting stuff in the past, you can't get
Speaker 6: the permits.
Speaker 3: I can tell you firsthand.
Speaker 6: We barely ever were was allowed to shoot any video
Speaker 6: missic videos in Oakland. We had to go renegade. We
Speaker 6: had to get subjugated to like a little neighborhood. That's
Speaker 6: I don't know what the rules were, but I've heard
Speaker 6: from other people who had like productions like Blind Spotting,
Speaker 6: that it's difficult to shoot in Oakland because of all
Speaker 6: the rules and regulations coming from city hall wherever.
Speaker 3: So you you gotta get.
Speaker 6: The shot, shoot and get and then you gotta go
Speaker 6: somewhere else and film this shit. So the people who
Speaker 6: did Freaky Tails, the production and everybody who was the
Speaker 6: powers to be to make it happen ran into those challenges.
Speaker 6: And they said that they just kicked up the extra money.
Speaker 6: There was a decision, do you want to do it
Speaker 6: like this, Let's just shoot what we could shoot in
Speaker 6: Oakland and then we'll just go shoot the rest of
Speaker 6: the movie elsewhere. And the directors were like, it's got
Speaker 6: to be done in Oakland. So whatever that extra cost was,
Speaker 6: I'm glad they did it. I think it's opening doors
Speaker 6: for other productions in the future All the time. When
Speaker 6: you have an example something that happened, the next people
Speaker 6: come along, go where they shot, nothing happened.
Speaker 5: It was cool.
Speaker 6: Look at the fuck you know, like we see San
Speaker 6: Francisco movies, we see La movies, we see movies from
Speaker 6: a lot of cities. By the time we start seeing
Speaker 6: some Oakland movies.
Speaker 7: Exactly how was that role with minutes and how did
Speaker 7: that come about?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I got my part. What year was that? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Exactly, somebody down there, somebody walk up say what blue Local?
Speaker 6: That was my character and minister Society. I got my
Speaker 6: part because if you notice, the star power is minimal.
Speaker 6: You got my man with Charles Dutton, he played the
Speaker 6: rock whatever he was, he was popping back.
Speaker 3: Then Jada was like, like, nobody she was.
Speaker 1: That was one of her.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tupac was in the movie and invited heard the
Speaker 6: story to fight Tupac the directors and ship. He was
Speaker 6: supposed to play the part of No. No, he was
Speaker 6: gonna play the righteous to Kansas. Yeah, he was gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he was gonna play.
Speaker 1: Somebody. I heard the story different.
Speaker 3: But he didn't want to play that character.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was gonna be Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be.
Speaker 6: O Dog Sharif checked the research, believe you said, just
Speaker 6: woke a lot of ways too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went exactly when they lost part.
Speaker 6: They needed some they needed they want to rap her name,
Speaker 6: and they just called me and found found a slot
Speaker 6: for me. They gave me some cool little scenes though,
Speaker 6: because my couple of little scenes is like real.
Speaker 1: So do you really burn the ribs? That? Did you
Speaker 1: really burn the ribs?
Speaker 3: Was burned?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Probably on the first takes.
Speaker 6: They wasn't burn Okay, just look like somebody.
Speaker 3: Somebody else was cooking the ribs. I just stepped in.
Speaker 3: But that take their camp, you see that. I remember that.
Speaker 6: It was some wild ship around there shooting man like
Speaker 6: they were shooting over and and fucking Jordan Down's projects.
Speaker 3: Man fucking up where the Great Streets is at.
Speaker 6: And it was some dudes that came up and start
Speaker 6: harassing to set a little bit, and m C eight,
Speaker 6: who is from Compton, went over a couple of familiar faces,
Speaker 6: you know, he chopped it up with him and he
Speaker 6: came back and he was telling me, it's like, look,
Speaker 6: they said, they're not gonna suck y'all up, but there's
Speaker 6: some other little niggas that run around here younger than
Speaker 6: them that if they come over here, nobody can control them,
Speaker 6: so you might just want to you know.
Speaker 3: You know, they didn't.
Speaker 6: They didn't do the proper introduction to the hood coming
Speaker 6: in and saying, hey, we're gonna be around for a
Speaker 6: few days, can we make it happen.
Speaker 3: They didn't do that, and.
Speaker 6: It was it was a little close call. They ended
Speaker 6: up having to shut down a little early. That's that
Speaker 6: alley scene they were shooting with the crackhead and ship.
Speaker 6: They probably would have got a little bit more, but
Speaker 6: it was a fun shooter.
Speaker 5: Man so quick.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm the only nigga in the movie that
Speaker 6: point the pistol at old Dog. He don't never really
Speaker 6: have no I'm like they gave me a and I
Speaker 6: humble a little nigga he like, you know, I had
Speaker 6: him scared for a minute and he was a plug
Speaker 6: too exactly.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 3: My guy po man got a little kick.
Speaker 1: You know who was in there?
Speaker 3: They minutes maw you know. Hopefully Freaky Tales.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be one of them movies that you know
Speaker 6: for years to come and have little scenes that people remember.
Speaker 3: You know, that's dope.
Speaker 4: As someone who lived it, you grew up looking at it.
Speaker 4: What was the eighties and nineties rap scene to you?
Speaker 4: And what inspired you the most? You touched on it earlier,
Speaker 4: But like break that down, man, it.
Speaker 5: Was just fly you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 5: remember being a kid, my mom like dressing me up
Speaker 5: in my school pictures and feelings, swist suits, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. He was telling me how to pose
Speaker 5: and different things like that. So it was always just
Speaker 5: fly seeing you know what I mean? Seeing forty faute,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Everything was always just player.
Speaker 5: We was always before the bay got labeled. It's just
Speaker 5: like an aggressive ass place. It was how I've seen
Speaker 5: it from my experience. It was real player. Everybody was player.
Speaker 5: You had your women, you spoke to him a certain way.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. You stayed out of people's
Speaker 5: business and minded your own. So for me, that's kind
Speaker 5: of like the ETA theology is always tried to model
Speaker 5: growing up. Its handle your business. Be a man of
Speaker 5: your word, you know what I mean, Keep a player,
Speaker 5: keep it cool. Uh, you ain't gotta be no gangster,
Speaker 5: but don't be no bitch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: You Fingerwaves never win finger because ain't that.
Speaker 1: A lot of the boys finger went fing away man
Speaker 1: rock four finger Waves wave it.
Speaker 7: You gotta curl, yeah, yeah, yeah, send itself had to curl.
Speaker 6: I'm like that was a bad We had special hair
Speaker 6: stylists that did pip hair.
Speaker 5: Dude, how did they keep that ship up like that.
Speaker 1: Always?
Speaker 6: Because I just kind of look right here, I assure
Speaker 6: that once by the time.
Speaker 3: But from what I heard, the pimp got to like,
Speaker 3: you know, a nigga might have to just sleep like
Speaker 3: this nigga, you know Techne look at the he said,
Speaker 3: you might have to.
Speaker 4: For someone that kind of helped create the sound coming
Speaker 4: out of the Bay. Obviously we heard New York and
Speaker 4: we you know, and then you come to the West
Speaker 4: coast and there's some in La by someone who is
Speaker 4: instrumentally in building the sound of the Bay Area. I
Speaker 4: mean probably in the moment you didn't realize that. But
Speaker 4: how prideful were you as being a part of that.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I'm I'm an older dude, older than
Speaker 6: damn near all the Bay rappers like Hammer might be
Speaker 6: older than me. He might, he might get me by
Speaker 6: a year, but forty on down mac dre on down,
Speaker 6: they're all a little younger man.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm of age.
Speaker 6: I was ten years old when George Clinton landed the
Speaker 6: Mothership in the coliseum, and I'm like a fifth grader.
Speaker 3: Something like some shit like that.
Speaker 6: And it don't mean nothing to say George Clinton leonard
Speaker 6: a spaceship on the stage. But nigga had ten years
Speaker 6: old and the p funk and the music, and my
Speaker 6: mama let me go to that concert with my brother
Speaker 6: and we just you know, no rental advisory. Were just
Speaker 6: funking out little niggas because the world wasn't while back then.
Speaker 6: You can tell a little nigga, you could say, go
Speaker 6: to that concert, be standing right here at fucking nine pm.
Speaker 3: The nigga be standing right there. And it was that
Speaker 3: kind of world so I got I got to see
Speaker 3: the funk.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I've seen at a young age. I've seen that Rick
Speaker 6: James live on stage. I've seen Cameo, I've seen all
Speaker 6: that shit. And when I got a chance to start
Speaker 6: making music, I was just so funked out, just so
Speaker 6: Boosy Parliament funk the fuck out that I'm listening to
Speaker 6: all the hip hop coming from New York.
Speaker 3: The first early records was Disco Records. All this shit on.
Speaker 6: Sugarhill Gang, sugar Hill Records, and shit, a lot of
Speaker 6: the early songs was on Curtis Blow. He was on
Speaker 6: the disco vibe. It was like because disco was hot
Speaker 6: coming out the seventies. And then they instantly went into
Speaker 6: James Brown. So the East Coast rappers sample every fucking
Speaker 6: thing you could think of James Brown, every little loop
Speaker 6: you could find the funk. James Brown is the inventor
Speaker 6: of the funk. Parliament Boosy is the next generation. They
Speaker 6: got it from James Brown. So listen to the ship.
Speaker 6: And it's my turn to step up to the plate.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, all we all we fucking want to
Speaker 6: do is Parliament, go listen to Doctor Dre All the
Speaker 6: ship when he first starts, he's fascinated with Parliament. Listen
Speaker 6: to forty and it's just funk, funky as funk. So
Speaker 6: we wasn't, you know, we wasn't really high in it,
Speaker 6: that thing. We was trying to be listen to digital underground,
Speaker 6: fucking Parliament, like that's the ship. So I just wanted
Speaker 6: to do my version of George Clinton really slow, funky beats.
Speaker 6: The baseline, you know, drum beat got a little kick
Speaker 6: to it, and the baseline funky as hell. And then
Speaker 6: I added on to that shit just a lot of
Speaker 6: shit talking and didn't really have any style of it
Speaker 6: than talk a lot of shit. I had a rap
Speaker 6: partner in the early days. His name was Freddie b
Speaker 6: and we used to sit around and we would just
Speaker 6: make tapes. Like a certain day would be make tape
Speaker 6: making day, other days to be taped selling day, and
Speaker 6: we would we would just be like just viving on
Speaker 6: what's moving around the streets and.
Speaker 3: Just be like, talk hell of shit. So just talk shit.
Speaker 6: And I think in the midst of styles of MC's
Speaker 6: in the whole world of hip hop, when they start
Speaker 6: talking about this style, that style of the flow, he
Speaker 6: speed up.
Speaker 3: He'd do this cadence. That cadence, they really didn't really
Speaker 3: had that category called shit talking.
Speaker 6: So all these years later they were like, well it's
Speaker 6: too short still relevant. Well, you know, two Short wasn't
Speaker 6: ever the best rapper, but I was the best shit talker.
Speaker 3: The niggas just don't getting it.
Speaker 6: They wasn't realizing I was just rattling the fuck out
Speaker 6: the speakers with the hell of base and just talking
Speaker 6: a lot of shit. And I think that shit went
Speaker 6: all over the Bay because the next nigga's up to
Speaker 6: bat was e forty.
Speaker 3: Here he come a whole lot of bass, talking a
Speaker 3: lot of shit.
Speaker 6: Next nigga up, Mac Dre. Everything he's doing, talking shit?
Speaker 6: We kicko Fota from the city. What's he doing? He's
Speaker 6: just talking a lot of shit. So I think all
Speaker 6: the Bay rappers we wanted to just lingo it up
Speaker 6: like the pimpsl was talking, like the street hustles was talking.
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, it was like the
Speaker 6: rappers was talking. So we set that tone. And if
Speaker 6: you listen to a young Bay rapper right now, seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 6: what is he doing?
Speaker 3: Shit? He's just talking a gang of shit.
Speaker 6: Even when a sob came out. Everybody, just every little
Speaker 6: era that comes out. The Russell now punchlining like a motherfucker.
Speaker 6: Just l Russell ain't even a bad guy. His image
Speaker 6: is not a bad guy image. Street talking that shit.
Speaker 6: So that's our legacy out there. I think, you know,
Speaker 6: the world should know they was, you know, all the
Speaker 6: motherfuckers who was all a lyrical super lyrical shit.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 3: Should have put a little shit talking in there.
Speaker 7: Mane you can't forgetting mac mall either. Man, all of
Speaker 7: us we.
Speaker 1: Grew.
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of us. Man, we just forty
Speaker 3: calls us game.
Speaker 4: Spinners with The little girl's name is Dope from out
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 3: Now Paris Knights, Yeah, period. I like her.
Speaker 4: The Bay can be considered its own little almost world.
Speaker 4: It's so much different energy from bridge to bridge. What
Speaker 4: did you guys, how did you guys embrace park and
Speaker 4: and and master p when they came and set up
Speaker 4: shop out there in the early nineties.
Speaker 6: I think, uh, they made a lot of friends and
Speaker 6: and it became home. So you know, I always I
Speaker 6: always referred to two Pocks quote when they said where
Speaker 6: are you from? He said, if I got to call
Speaker 6: someplace home. I'm gonna called Oakland home because that's where
Speaker 6: I got the game. And I think, uh, that's a
Speaker 6: big statement because he's from an area in the Bay
Speaker 6: called Marine City, proud of being from there. But he
Speaker 6: was just like I came to Oakland and got this
Speaker 6: certain game. Bruce Lee came to Oakland and got that.
Speaker 3: Game shit back before hip hop. It's out there.
Speaker 6: I heard people like Kat Williams say he went out
Speaker 6: to Oakland to live for a while just to figure
Speaker 6: his comedy shit out a little more so. Master PM
Speaker 6: has a lot of alliances in the Bay with people
Speaker 6: who were doing that independent hustle. How he learned it
Speaker 6: and how he figured out how to do it his way.
Speaker 6: He had a record store in Richmond, and he just
Speaker 6: absorbed it, man like, he was the record store owner,
Speaker 6: worked in his store and he was watching all this
Speaker 6: shit sell independently.
Speaker 3: So you know, he figured it out. But it's shot.
Speaker 6: G said he pimped his way across the USA to
Speaker 6: get to Oakland to motherfucking make music because wanted to
Speaker 6: be out there, you know what I Meanuck, A lot
Speaker 6: of motherfuckers know that I was born and raised in
Speaker 6: La I moved to Oakland at fourteen turned the fuck out.
Speaker 6: I never had a dream of rapping or nothing too short.
Speaker 6: I got to open and they fucking turned me into
Speaker 6: this shit. So it's just like it's like that, bro,
Speaker 6: it's in the water Man. If you knew the history
Speaker 6: of the Bay Area music, if you just knew the history,
Speaker 6: it's a lot of fucking history before hip hop.
Speaker 3: Good shit, Ablue.
Speaker 7: Is it anything that you that you are envious about
Speaker 7: that the eighties and nineties rappers got that you didn't that, y'all?
Speaker 7: I'm getting this area this era. I think it was
Speaker 7: way more solid.
Speaker 5: I think one thing God say is like, because it
Speaker 5: was a limited amount of resources, they had to be
Speaker 5: more creative. Yeah, facts, And I feel like sometimes my
Speaker 5: air gets lazy on the creative side because of everything
Speaker 5: we got at our disposal. When you hear some of
Speaker 5: them real Like he was telling me he had to
Speaker 5: rap Freaky Tales all the way through. I'm telling him, like,
Speaker 5: you know how long it took me to punch that shit?
Speaker 5: Like I had to rewrap it for the movie, And
Speaker 5: it took me, like damn, there like a whole day
Speaker 5: to like rap that shit, and I'm punching, taking five
Speaker 5: minute breaks going and he was like, nah, I have
Speaker 5: to wrap it all the way through. He like, that's
Speaker 5: why you could hear certain things in the background, that's all.
Speaker 5: But he was like, man, I used to like it
Speaker 5: like that. The Flaws is cornered.
Speaker 3: The studio time, either on album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think the creativity. I'm somebody that like,
Speaker 5: I kind of overthink a lot, especially when it comes
Speaker 5: to write my raps, because I never I never want
Speaker 5: to feel like I'm wasting thoughts or just saying something
Speaker 5: to say it. I'm always trying to say something that's important,
Speaker 5: especially when it comes to hard culture. And I get
Speaker 5: that from the nineties, you know what I mean, From
Speaker 5: the eighties, from the Bay you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: even like he was just talking about shit talking. One
Speaker 5: of my biggest moments was the La Leakers freestyle and
Speaker 5: when I said I never let a woman make me
Speaker 5: feel less of a man because I don't want to
Speaker 5: buy a burking. That line actually came from when Sweetie said,
Speaker 5: if he don't buy you a burk, and send him
Speaker 5: back to the streets, you know what I mean saying.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, send me back to the streets,
Speaker 5: and I send you back to your mama house. You know,
Speaker 5: like you said, ship talking, it's just but having something
Speaker 5: to say, you know what I mean, having something to
Speaker 5: stand on for my community and my culture or what
Speaker 5: we believe in is what I take for them.
Speaker 1: Same question for you, Shure.
Speaker 7: But flip it around, like they have access to so
Speaker 7: much social media and all that is anything that you
Speaker 7: wish that y'all would have had, that you kind of
Speaker 7: image that they.
Speaker 6: Have now, well, the tools, the tools are way better,
Speaker 6: you know, technology. It's a it's a give and take
Speaker 6: for me though, because what technology brought along was a
Speaker 6: way to reach the masses.
Speaker 3: But then there was also a really.
Speaker 6: A really fun aspect of not everybody knowing everything instantly.
Speaker 6: It was it actually to me, it gave songs a
Speaker 6: longer lifespan and it I don't know, it just I
Speaker 6: used to meet people by doing the show and jumping
Speaker 6: off stage and walking through your city and just meet people.
Speaker 6: I didn't have, you know, social media, I probably would
Speaker 6: have never did that shit. I'd have been like, I
Speaker 6: got five hundred thousand followers, Why the fuck I gotta
Speaker 6: go walk around.
Speaker 3: Your city, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: So it just I like the personal shit, But at
Speaker 6: the same time everything is so one hundred times more.
Speaker 6: Of course, I would have loved the fucking in the nineties,
Speaker 6: I fucking made six platinum albums in a row. I
Speaker 6: couldn't get a fucking endorsement of nothing. They wouldn't actually
Speaker 6: hip hop artist to endorse snow for motherfuckers just sold
Speaker 6: six million albums in six years, and you wouldn't want
Speaker 6: them to endorse your product.
Speaker 3: Product. And now you know, now that they know.
Speaker 6: How influential hip hop is, if you just get a
Speaker 6: little spark, they're like, oh, you know, you want to
Speaker 6: this clothing line, you want this, and they understand the
Speaker 6: value of the popularity. But back then it was I mean,
Speaker 6: they were trying to stop us from doing tours. They're
Speaker 6: trying to stop us from any fucking thing we do.
Speaker 6: We pull up, it's like, those are the hip hoppers,
Speaker 6: the bad guys.
Speaker 8: So I would love to be in the era of
Speaker 8: floating ship through this fucking digital these ones and zeros
Speaker 8: and just send my ship to London in a listening
Speaker 8: to m P three and fucking how are we sending
Speaker 8: a fucking song across the ocean in ten seconds?
Speaker 7: The fuck is that you gave, you gave, you gave me,
Speaker 7: You gave me a hard drive about fifty thousand songs
Speaker 7: on the word fucker. Man, it's still listening to the
Speaker 7: motherfucker the nineties.
Speaker 6: I would have had to give you like fucking twenty
Speaker 6: crazy hey, but it's lovely.
Speaker 3: Man. The only thing with right now, the only thing
Speaker 3: I don't like is the way that.
Speaker 6: The streets are entwined with the rap ship. Because the
Speaker 6: streets always hip hop. The streets was always the backing
Speaker 6: the banker of hip hop movements, but the street guys
Speaker 6: would be like this all legitimate thing, keep it legit,
Speaker 6: staying in a certain place. Now it's like Nigga the
Speaker 6: rapper himself would get off stage and shoot you, did
Speaker 6: you just.
Speaker 3: Throw that like this?
Speaker 6: Like crazy that that we was thug the fuck out
Speaker 6: rolling with me, any type of vibe you want to
Speaker 6: think about. But the ship had a certain level of
Speaker 6: it made sense. And I just think that if you
Speaker 6: got something so valuable as hip hop, we pull up
Speaker 6: in the room. This the nigga who gets all the
Speaker 6: money for the movement. He the last nigga that's gonna
Speaker 6: get in trouble. He the last nigga that's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 6: The movement is shielding him, like, Nigga, we gotta do
Speaker 6: some dirt, get him to the car.
Speaker 3: That's that's the bag.
Speaker 6: Why is the bag over here in the middle of
Speaker 6: the fucking fight, Like it ain't making no sense?
Speaker 5: So I think the thing with that, because you're right,
Speaker 5: I think the problem with our generation is like they
Speaker 5: kind of start disrespecting the support. Right, so niggas starts
Speaker 5: feeling like day the reason so you able to move
Speaker 5: this way and move around the hood and have this
Speaker 5: influence because of us, But then you start making this
Speaker 5: money and start believing it's because of you. So now
Speaker 5: the people who was funding that is like, Nigga, you're
Speaker 5: really rapping about my life. I could do this too,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean?
Speaker 5: So now they didn't put themself in front of the
Speaker 5: camera and made that same amount of money, And it's like,
Speaker 5: what I'm back you for now when I could do
Speaker 5: the same thing. And because of this, they made the
Speaker 5: world one big neighborhood. How he can't get to the
Speaker 5: people or it.
Speaker 6: Says a billion dollar business and motherfuckers need to like
Speaker 6: fight somewhere else.
Speaker 1: They are not.
Speaker 6: They are not fighting on the courts, Max.
Speaker 3: They're not fighting on the course no more.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a bag. That's a bad.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Uncle V too, man. Uncle VV came
Speaker 5: out and rocked with me for All Star Weekend. You
Speaker 5: know that's one of my favorite people in the world.
Speaker 5: We'll be on the fight black man. That motherfucker right there, Man,
Speaker 5: the mother fucking Peppovich. Man, I couldn't god that motherfucker. Man,
Speaker 5: that mother.
Speaker 1: I love man. Shout out the man in the building
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties or today? Who got the best group?
Speaker 1: Is the best looking group to groupies?
Speaker 5: That's the part you left. You would crazy Instagram because you.
Speaker 7: Know you basically build the bitch today, build the whole
Speaker 7: perfect man.
Speaker 3: When I was coming up, if the girl had a
Speaker 3: big ass, it was real. That was a big ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was real.
Speaker 6: There was no nothing but her grandmom and her mama.
Speaker 1: That was beans and rice all over. Man, And yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Feel so bad for the from my generation, for the
Speaker 6: kids who inherited that ass, who got to compete with
Speaker 6: fake ass.
Speaker 3: That ship is that ship is like religious. Man is special. Man,
Speaker 3: That motherfucking that you could build one. That fact.
Speaker 6: I've seen too many real ones that even I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't honor, Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 5: But like I said, y'all paved the way. You see community,
Speaker 5: y'all paved the way they got to explore.
Speaker 1: Now you know.
Speaker 4: We're you ain't never had the nineties group got to
Speaker 4: be nineties I'm thinking nineties nineties?
Speaker 5: What was the nineties groupie?
Speaker 3: Natural beautiful? After they leave, they just be happy.
Speaker 6: Ain't no no posting, no motherfucking up secret adortion?
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, lies after the ship that happened, come on,
Speaker 5: give it changed?
Speaker 3: Everything is getting fluid out?
Speaker 7: Wasn't the thing that's back?
Speaker 5: When that's back? When what happened in Vegas actually stayed
Speaker 5: in Vegas?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: When when a T shirt meant something?
Speaker 1: Expectations now are crazy? Expectations now are crazy.
Speaker 7: You survived every era of hip hop to say, to
Speaker 7: be honest, what do you think was the golden age
Speaker 7: of hip hop?
Speaker 1: Or if you would say it was a golden age.
Speaker 6: Well, we know they have an actual golden era that's
Speaker 6: labeled late eighties and early nineties that's supposed to be
Speaker 6: the peerst form of hip hop when it was young
Speaker 6: in the commercial stages and everything was original.
Speaker 3: Everybody was a one off man. All these erarors were.
Speaker 6: Fun like that era is how I got in the gang,
Speaker 6: just being too short of my own lane. But the
Speaker 6: next one that came in with the bling bline, we
Speaker 6: all got money and sh was fun. I was looking
Speaker 6: at Atlanta and she was fun and fucking who got
Speaker 6: the most shit fun? And then you know, the Y
Speaker 6: two K pass and then the new Millennium came in and.
Speaker 3: Shit started getting my space, my.
Speaker 6: Spaced out, and you know, it was on the Bay.
Speaker 6: We was hypheed up and Little John and then was
Speaker 6: crunked up. It was it was, it was doing it, man,
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 5: I was just about to ask you not to cut
Speaker 5: you off. Speak to you meeting Little John because a
Speaker 5: lot of people don't understand he was the first.
Speaker 6: But I'm you know, I'm at this time. I'm an
Speaker 6: og brouh, I'm an og in the nineties. But they're like,
Speaker 6: what up o G you know what I'm saying, I've
Speaker 6: been there and fucking I'm coming on the West and
Speaker 6: this hyphee is brewing, like early two thousands hype.
Speaker 3: He is brewing and fucking It's just a whole new
Speaker 3: energy for me.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I had, I had already been in pocket with Little
Speaker 6: John when the hyphe came along. Little John literally had
Speaker 6: did a show or something he did. He was in
Speaker 6: Oakland for something in the bay and he called me.
Speaker 6: He was like, man, I'm in the bay and they
Speaker 6: got the ship out here called Haife, Like, bro, we
Speaker 6: gotta do some of this ship.
Speaker 3: Like he came back hyped up on the ship.
Speaker 6: So prior you want to know the Little Johan story,
Speaker 6: Little John is uh.
Speaker 3: And about what I don't know. The mid nineties.
Speaker 6: He's an employee and so so deaf and he's over
Speaker 6: there producing songs. I think one of the ones I
Speaker 6: always members of is that my boot song somebody singing
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: Know boo I can't sing, so you.
Speaker 5: Know, uh not the usher booze.
Speaker 1: Baby Oh.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 6: So so deaf, thank you so blue John producing him
Speaker 6: kind of beast for so so deaf. He worked for
Speaker 6: Jermain Dupree. You got an office over there and ship.
Speaker 6: But he's also a DJ around Atlanta and the niggas
Speaker 6: a pretty good damn DJ.
Speaker 3: So I was a fan of Little John to DJ.
Speaker 6: I always was at the fucking clubs and when he DJ,
Speaker 6: it was just different.
Speaker 3: He started DJing.
Speaker 6: And he's playing records but he's talking and then next
Speaker 6: thing you know, he got the crowd saying ship he
Speaker 6: he just it turned into a fucking concert by DJ.
Speaker 6: And then he put this record out.
Speaker 3: Who You Get Crunk? Who You With? Who You With?
Speaker 6: Just a bunch of chants to the flu getting look
Speaker 6: to the flock. And I pull up on him and
Speaker 6: I'm like, bro, you need to let me do a
Speaker 6: remix to that, like put some raps on it. And
Speaker 6: he's like, nah, nah, that song already came and win.
Speaker 6: He's like, let's make some new ship. So he put
Speaker 6: up to my studio one day and left me a
Speaker 6: song that ended up being a couldn't be a better player,
Speaker 6: and and.
Speaker 3: He left the song. I wasn't there when he came.
Speaker 6: He just left this fucking song tracked out on the
Speaker 6: on the machines he sat do don't know if he
Speaker 6: mailed him.
Speaker 3: It was just there. So I put some raps on it,
Speaker 3: got it back to him. We liked it. We uh
Speaker 3: went to go shoot the video and ship.
Speaker 6: The song blew up and then he's he's in a
Speaker 6: situation with an independent label in Atlanta, a label that
Speaker 6: was an associated mind I knew the god. I had
Speaker 6: just some business with him. He was cool, wasn't no,
Speaker 6: wasn't no. It wasn't no friction or nothing. But he
Speaker 6: said Little John owed him some money, and he just,
Speaker 6: you know, fucked Little John.
Speaker 3: Little John was like he's shady, whatever the whatever.
Speaker 1: It was the.
Speaker 6: Dispute fucking so they was gonna fuck you for life.
Speaker 6: So I just stepped in and was like, bro, how
Speaker 6: much money is it. I've got some business going on
Speaker 6: with Little John. Okay, you know this this whatever broke
Speaker 6: him off, you know, some homie ship, and then fucking
Speaker 6: came to Little John.
Speaker 3: I was like, you free to go.
Speaker 6: And I could have signed Little John to my label,
Speaker 6: but I knew who he was. We had already did
Speaker 6: a couple of songs that blew the fuck up because
Speaker 6: of him. He went out there, oh yeah, yeah, get
Speaker 6: Little John was the kind of dude who had a
Speaker 6: network of the DJ record and he had been doing
Speaker 6: that for so so deaf, and he did that for
Speaker 6: his couple of singles that he had and shipped, as
Speaker 6: well as the song that he had with me.
Speaker 3: So instead of me going are you under me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Let's roll, I was.
Speaker 6: Just like, bro, you know you're free to go, man.
Speaker 6: And all I asked for him return was beats. I
Speaker 6: was just I want beats. I knew the nigga had
Speaker 6: them beats, so for life. The nigga was just slide
Speaker 6: me hits like just for life. And then the greatest
Speaker 6: ship ever, he slid me shake that monkey which lasts forever.
Speaker 6: And the very next year he gave me blow the
Speaker 6: whistle and I'm like, you know, thank you, sir, And then.
Speaker 3: He proceeded to make some of the best hyphe beats ever.
Speaker 6: Like he did tell me what he didn't want to
Speaker 6: keep the snakes, yeh, he was, he was. He was
Speaker 6: doing it like I just want to help snap the ship,
Speaker 6: the same as me and forty. But you know that
Speaker 6: those are the type of things, man, when you're coming
Speaker 6: up in a game, it might be with a younger
Speaker 6: player or younger coach or something, and you fucking helped
Speaker 6: somebody along the way, and then they turn around and
Speaker 6: they're in the position to help you, and it's just
Speaker 6: this ship is just way better than going through life
Speaker 6: going give him my you know, just I'm the motherfucking one.
Speaker 3: You just kind of gotta have a little humble to it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: And when you recognize somebody with the game, you just
Speaker 6: give him a stepping stone, give him some more game,
Speaker 6: give him a chance, to give him opportunity, something.
Speaker 3: Speaking to blow the whistle.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Gilly brought that.
Speaker 4: Back around and made the theme of the of the
Speaker 4: Philadelphia and they won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: And what was that like? And did that really that
Speaker 3: ran the streams back up? Didn't it? I can only imagine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the first time I saw him, after you start
Speaker 6: doing it, I'm like, I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 3: Bra, You're like in streams is up?
Speaker 4: And you went out to his house and did some
Speaker 4: ship with him in the front yard with the neighbor
Speaker 4: and everything.
Speaker 6: Then motherfucking snow one football Sunday playoffs.
Speaker 3: You got to respect bro. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I jumped on the flight and with the Philly I
Speaker 6: am not a Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3: Fan, but I love I love Gillian Wallow and you know, the.
Speaker 6: City of Philly has shown me some love over the years.
Speaker 6: It was it was, it was given tape. They started
Speaker 6: off my first show in Philly. The niggas was throwing
Speaker 6: ship at me. I don't get ship thrown at me,
Speaker 6: a no show man. Yeah, that's how that's how we started,
Speaker 6: but then all right, we evolved and I love Philly.
Speaker 4: There was a video that went viral from All Star
Speaker 4: of you doing blow the whistle at faster faster what
Speaker 4: you call it? Yeah, well ll Russell and splash, that's
Speaker 4: what it's called.
Speaker 3: That splash. You got that video. It's the Steph party. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was in that.
Speaker 1: Term cracked it.
Speaker 5: At that day's timbo. He was telling her to shake
Speaker 5: it faster.
Speaker 4: Uh so they want to catch step saying Stephanie saying
Speaker 4: under his breath.
Speaker 3: Steph with the beard man.
Speaker 6: Remember remember Steph with the little boy step slick face.
Speaker 4: That's what jacks when Jack left the team because he
Speaker 4: didn't believe in him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: you ain't believing Steph.
Speaker 6: There was a whole bunch of people that's mad about
Speaker 6: the my taste ship was mad.
Speaker 1: Bro. Just you gotta think when.
Speaker 3: I did you watch my tape? Like he was gone, but.
Speaker 7: Left, Al left, Beani enough, j redche left, everybody was
Speaker 7: gone with the fucking I'm the only old nigga here.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be here with all these He
Speaker 1: needed to get out of here. He step didn't take
Speaker 1: a person.
Speaker 5: Steph did have a lot of ankle injuries early too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he got fifty five ft on the rookie here, Jenny's.
Speaker 6: A whole lot of people said, man, you traded my
Speaker 6: tape for the nigga with the weak ankles.
Speaker 3: For a lot of that, a lot of that. He
Speaker 3: was like a little boy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: They didn't know. They didn't know. If I would have known,
Speaker 3: ain't nobody do.
Speaker 1: If I would have known, I told.
Speaker 7: Me, I would have known he was going end up
Speaker 7: like that, motherfucker. I would have stayed mans right there.
Speaker 4: I should shout out to stock X, one of our
Speaker 4: big partners. Short, you've been through so many eras. Give
Speaker 4: me one sneaker from the eighties in the nineties that
Speaker 4: was a must half.
Speaker 3: Oh you funny man. You know what, I'm the craziest
Speaker 3: nigga on earth. I buy.
Speaker 6: I be buying shoes like I'm warning Vans right now.
Speaker 6: I be buying shoes that niggas're walking. Oh, nigga, you
Speaker 6: got the I'm like, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I just like the color. So you're not even a
Speaker 3: sneaker head like that. But I buy the best ship.
Speaker 6: I have, like some collector ship, and wear their motherfuckers
Speaker 6: to coach Chilla or something man and fuck them up.
Speaker 3: Like I don't. My mind ain't focused on the ship.
Speaker 6: So you know, I spend you know, a crazy amount
Speaker 6: on a pair of shoes, but then I won't respect them.
Speaker 6: So would on the cover of Quarterias, I was gonna say,
Speaker 6: that's probably the only shoe.
Speaker 3: I can name.
Speaker 6: Fucking Quartia is only when I memorize the name and
Speaker 6: Jordan's only I don't know to Jordan's numbers.
Speaker 3: You just know I don't know me either.
Speaker 1: Didn't right, you didn't rock the Marrimax.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, It's like asking me what was
Speaker 3: every the name of every girl I had sex?
Speaker 1: Really, he's really not.
Speaker 9: Said, remember I remember today I wore ned the you know.
Speaker 4: So sports shift the sports a little bit obviously. Bron
Speaker 4: and Steph and and k D and hand full of greats.
Speaker 4: This will what I want, Steph. If Steph ends up
Speaker 4: with more rings than Bron, where does that put Steph
Speaker 4: in the hierarchy of the game. Just go, I know
Speaker 4: you're a huge, but we're Bron fans.
Speaker 5: If James uh So as president of the Lebron James
Speaker 5: Finn Club, no one can ever be greater than mister
Speaker 5: James period, never any error, No one can ever do it.
Speaker 5: The man went to nine straight finals. We're talking about
Speaker 5: somebody that can play every position. We're talking about somebody
Speaker 5: that's elevated every team he went to. We're talking about
Speaker 5: somebody that changed the culture of the NBA as far
Speaker 5: as picking where you want to land. We're talking about
Speaker 5: somebody that elevated his friends in business. We're talking about
Speaker 5: Rich Paul, We're talking about Maverick Carter. Like, I love Steph,
Speaker 5: I'm a Golden State Warrior, but I'm also a Golden
Speaker 5: State Laker.
Speaker 10: But but, but, but but what about the player who
Speaker 10: he said if he gets more rings and he changed
Speaker 10: the fucking game, like he changed the game?
Speaker 4: Definitely question So technically this is and I don't disagree
Speaker 4: with Bron's greatness, but on Bron's watch, someone got more
Speaker 4: rings than he did.
Speaker 3: Man changed the game. That's hypothetical.
Speaker 1: A couple of people.
Speaker 5: Well, look at what he was up against, what he
Speaker 5: had to deal with k D and the Warriors for
Speaker 5: two years.
Speaker 3: But he got to of his rings playing with Boshtond.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they had to they had to round up
Speaker 5: for the Celtics. Celtics had a lot.
Speaker 3: The Warriors got to the words got to he got to.
Speaker 5: But but it wasn't like Bron went and got another
Speaker 5: top three players. I'm saying when he went to Cleveland
Speaker 5: were leaving Miami out of this.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think.
Speaker 5: Stephen right now, yes, but has drafted there.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like the top five power four before he
Speaker 4: went there and sacrificed this whole game.
Speaker 5: What y'all got against Lebron?
Speaker 4: Because I know you from the Bay and you're a
Speaker 4: Lebron fan. That's why I asked the question.
Speaker 5: I think, to me, Steph Curry has changed the game.
Speaker 5: If you get another ring to me, no, to a
Speaker 5: logical theory, yes, but I would say right.
Speaker 3: Now, man, personal opinion.
Speaker 6: Man as ambassadors of the game and accolades in their careers,
Speaker 6: I put them brothers, even Steven. They have done so
Speaker 6: much for basketball just because they fly the straight eraw
Speaker 6: of not tainting the brand as so many players be
Speaker 6: our sales.
Speaker 3: I'm a player. I'm not a basketball player, but I'm
Speaker 3: a player be our sales. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I just think, man, I don't think either one
Speaker 6: has surpassed the other one at this point, So another ring,
Speaker 6: I don't think another ring would even make it when
Speaker 6: it when it's when it's said and done. Because of
Speaker 6: how long they played and what they did all the
Speaker 6: way through their entire careers, they still gonna it's gonna
Speaker 6: be the Lebron Steph ra for It's not gonna be
Speaker 6: the Jordan era or the or the Magic era.
Speaker 3: It's gonna they both will have to share that forever, and.
Speaker 5: They both like change the game. Like I'm saying, Steph
Speaker 5: made the pointer almost just as exciting as a dunk
Speaker 5: as a at this point change the game for ever.
Speaker 5: So I'm just the biggest Lebron fan because that was
Speaker 5: always my favorite player growing up, and he rocked with
Speaker 5: my music. So I'm always being Lebia's James.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think Steph can pass uh Lebron on
Speaker 7: my list. I think Lebron's gonna always be number three,
Speaker 7: regardless if Steph would another championship, just at the career Lebron.
Speaker 5: You got before Lebron.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, don't play me. It's only two people.
Speaker 5: I'm just asking a serious question.
Speaker 1: Being in MJ, like you put Mike Belfure Lebron.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he's a better basketball.
Speaker 1: Player than Lebron.
Speaker 5: Gosh, here we go with a better basketball player.
Speaker 1: Lebron, had Broun had a better career.
Speaker 7: He has the best career in everybody talking about on
Speaker 7: the court playing basketball. It ain't two people better than
Speaker 7: Lebron in.
Speaker 1: The Jordan in any era just gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 5: Jordan would have been nice in this era. But would
Speaker 5: it would it look like that I looked in the nineties.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they say, they say my average fifty.
Speaker 3: Now they couldn't play.
Speaker 5: No, I've seen I've seen somebody send me a clipped
Speaker 5: This more than of a player Jordan Duncan on Barkley
Speaker 5: with something. Somebody passed them a base one drop step.
Speaker 5: Draymond would have never let that happen. Draymond would never
Speaker 5: Draymond would never let that.
Speaker 6: You would have never left that ain't.
Speaker 7: Nothing that bill Rick Mahorn, they was doing the same
Speaker 7: thing that the worst they busting his lip.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't let that happen.
Speaker 7: Man, Man, I don't think so, I ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3: We just had this to the point where.
Speaker 1: They Moon would have got dunked on too.
Speaker 4: So we round in this interview. Man, we obviously appreciate
Speaker 4: the time. Freaky tails out right now ya? How excited
Speaker 4: are you just about this again? I heard you talking
Speaker 4: before You're taking acting? You're taking this shit serious? How
Speaker 4: exciting is this kind of this trans not necessarily a
Speaker 4: transition because you're still doing music, but being able to
Speaker 4: step into into Hollywood and be an actor as well.
Speaker 1: Not putting yourself in the box.
Speaker 5: That Yeah, Like I said, man, it's a blessing. You
Speaker 5: grew up as a kid watching the entertainment space and
Speaker 5: just want to be a part of it, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. I feel like for so many years
Speaker 5: in the beginning, I was just happy to be here,
Speaker 5: and then it was like, Okay, now it's time to
Speaker 5: lock in and really focus on the things I want
Speaker 5: to do. So, you know, I went through a situation
Speaker 5: with my label kind of was pigeonheled on trying to
Speaker 5: get music out, and at that time I needed something
Speaker 5: new to fire me up and inspired me. And this
Speaker 5: was the perfect opportunity. I got to play one of
Speaker 5: my role models unk somebody I called for advice and
Speaker 5: always give me game. So it was really like a
Speaker 5: place of reinsurance, you know, for me to get back
Speaker 5: to what I've been missing, And we got a lot
Speaker 5: of new music on the way, and we got a
Speaker 5: lot of new acting roles on the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah you tell me about a big one.
Speaker 5: I was like, Yo, yeah, yeah, we work it, We
Speaker 5: work it. We on new way.
Speaker 4: Man gratulations short. You collabed with a lot of legends
Speaker 4: in this space. Do you have one that kind of
Speaker 4: stands out? On one or two that stand out? Is
Speaker 4: just the experience overall was different because you I mean,
Speaker 4: although it was you collab with people back when everyone
Speaker 4: used to get in the studio together and do it,
Speaker 4: does anyone stand out?
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, man, I've been I've been in the
Speaker 6: hot water with the fucking like the best of the
Speaker 6: best in that studio.
Speaker 3: Like you said, we're in the same session and you
Speaker 3: got to keep up.
Speaker 6: And it's fucking jay Z, It's Notorious Big, it's Tupac,
Speaker 6: fucking Snoop Doggy Dog and Scarface and eat Fody and
Speaker 6: just you know, pimp.
Speaker 3: See like niggas are get in the studio and give
Speaker 3: you a problem like you like you.
Speaker 6: They stretch you out because when they do their vocals,
Speaker 6: it's like, fuck, like what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: What I mean, like, for real, man, it should be
Speaker 3: serious bro.
Speaker 6: So, like I said, I always refer to game spitting
Speaker 6: because a lot of these motherfuckers are dance circles around
Speaker 6: you rapping and they rap styles and ship and the
Speaker 6: cadence and ship and the rhythm of it.
Speaker 3: And I just I just come in there like real slow,
Speaker 3: like yeah, bitch, that's what I thought. Niggas be all complicated.
Speaker 6: I'm like all right, so you know, I just I
Speaker 6: just feel like my favorite artist always work with with
Speaker 6: E forty. That's why we have so many fucking songs together.
Speaker 6: But I love being in the studio with guys like
Speaker 6: pimps because these niggas are also musicians.
Speaker 3: We make beats. Who would do the hook?
Speaker 6: And you know, like you're making a song and you
Speaker 6: just sitting there starting to write a verse and see
Speaker 6: already got the hook in some you know, you know niggas,
Speaker 6: you know, a pimpcy for like his rapping and ship.
Speaker 3: But listen to how many UGK songs this.
Speaker 6: Nigga is singing, singing, kep in the studio really singing and.
Speaker 3: Got a good voice.
Speaker 7: He got a real voice, like the corner all the time.
Speaker 3: So it was just fun like what fucker's come in?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Spark the weed up. Eric Simmon is another one. Hit
Speaker 3: the beat, the beat he made the beat.
Speaker 6: He just when he make a beat, he just hit
Speaker 6: the drummer scenes so fast and the ship like you
Speaker 6: want to keep wanting them motherfuckers really fast. And then
Speaker 6: he going to booth and just spit at sixteen like nigga,
Speaker 6: what the fuck did you put that together? And they
Speaker 6: just they just had that talent. Man sho, I ain't
Speaker 6: got no rhymes on deck right now.
Speaker 3: There's nothing. If you said spit had nothing. Where's the
Speaker 3: solo as y'all one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need one.
Speaker 3: That's your solo right there.
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Speaker 3: Ship.
Speaker 1: That's what we got. That's what we got to look
Speaker 1: forward to. Huh Wig Hitters.
Speaker 4: First thing to come to mind all time Warriors starting
Speaker 4: five y'all.
Speaker 3: Can do it together. Oh, Steph was team. You're putting
Speaker 3: together the five dudes in any era.
Speaker 5: Stephan show.
Speaker 6: My first one will be Mitch Richmond rich and that's
Speaker 6: that's that's that's the real Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5: I'm going on my nigga stack. Yeah, I'm going my niggas.
Speaker 5: We got Steph mitche you pick water Whick. One more
Speaker 5: Baron Davison, Davis small.
Speaker 4: You better get somebody tall, and I'm gonna gomall ball anyway.
Speaker 3: About to say the Warriors changed the game. Bro with
Speaker 3: the shooters man.
Speaker 5: Talking about Draymond Green.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, that's Draymond. That's one through ten. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: in the building.
Speaker 4: One album, y'all cauld listen to with no Skips short
Speaker 4: start with.
Speaker 3: You album with no skips.
Speaker 5: Anything?
Speaker 3: Ice Cube, mate, I run all. Ice Cube was front
Speaker 3: the back for me.
Speaker 5: I always say fifty cent. Get Richard Dutch silent.
Speaker 3: That's another good Yeah.
Speaker 4: Starting to send a childhood crush Kyle the Prey, Oh wow,
Speaker 4: just bad.
Speaker 3: Shortened ship. Pam Grid motherfucking.
Speaker 6: Childhood Pam Grid as a little boy going to the movies.
Speaker 6: You got to see Pam Gris titties man a little
Speaker 6: bit boy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that would be.
Speaker 4: That would be my first guy to see him. Guilty
Speaker 4: pleasure that you can talk about.
Speaker 3: I plead the fifth guilty pleasure.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: Free ship, free ship. I walk in places with a
Speaker 6: pocket full of money. They keep giving me free ship,
Speaker 6: kicking aprecip.
Speaker 11: Appreciate, appreciate it. Man, get out of here. Last question,
Speaker 11: go ahead.
Speaker 7: If you guys can see one guest on our show,
Speaker 7: who would it be? But you have to help us
Speaker 7: get your answer on the show.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the same thing I said last time.
Speaker 3: Lebron you're the president of the fan.
Speaker 5: They recently they recently I talked to Math.
Speaker 3: They're outside to a little bit.
Speaker 5: They're going to upgrade me to Bronnie's fan club.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take him to.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna talk to the team and
Speaker 5: I get back.
Speaker 3: Hey, who should y'all get on this show?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 6: Let me think, man, somebody good for all the smoke?
Speaker 6: I don't know somebody that's a super smoker. Man like
Speaker 6: who who we.
Speaker 3: Just smoked with all of them? We haven't had Kenny Rogers.
Speaker 3: That would be he's a real good conversation man, like yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 4: Be legend in the game, well that's a rap man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you guys. Freaky Tails out now go check
Speaker 4: it out. And obviously a lot of other stuff coming
Speaker 4: down the pipeline with both these dudes, but man.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys for your time. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Can catch on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the
Speaker 4: Draft Kings Network.
Speaker 3: We'll see y'all next week.