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Speaker 1: Join Battle in Eli as they break down the world

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Speaker 1: of professional wrestling.

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Speaker 3: Going to stop. Up now making their way to the microphone.

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Speaker 1: For the greatest podcast tack team in the world, Battle

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Speaker 3: I starting figured out my catchphrase to start this show.

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Speaker 2: Do we decide which one we're doing?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what we've decided to do. We're just

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Speaker 4: going to just open the mics and just see what happens.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the plan.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: It is Battleground the podcast, the wrestling podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host Battle and Hey, this is Eli.

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Speaker 4: That's Eli, and we do have a special guest in

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Speaker 4: is in town this weekend. PJ all the way from

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Speaker 4: how do we want to announce this pjlight? Do we

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Speaker 4: want to like try to do a New York accent

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Speaker 5: I don't have the prototypical New York accent like everyone thinks. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Well you just did though, So that's how that's how

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Speaker 4: we're gonna have DJ on the show. All right, So,

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Speaker 4: uh it is uh, you know, it is the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 4: We're here Also, real quick, we want to give a

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Speaker 4: shout out to Ring of Honor for hooking us up

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Speaker 4: with some great tickets. Uh, the event was awesome, which

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Speaker 4: on our instant story Finest Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Let's just go ahead and jump right into it.

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Speaker 4: Big things happen over the weekend, and this is what's

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Speaker 4: going to kind of lead into the topic. So Ray

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Speaker 4: Phoenix apparently was at an indie show and got pretty

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Speaker 4: messed up, busted his leg. A lot of people on

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Speaker 4: the internet said that it was broken, but John Morrison's

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Speaker 4: wife chimes in and was like, no, luckily it's not broken.

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Speaker 4: It's just badly hurt. But it's like, okay, you've got

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Speaker 4: a big pay per view coming up this weekend. Again,

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Speaker 4: the young Bud.

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Speaker 1: This is a business defining I mean, this is this

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Speaker 1: is really going to put them on the on the map,

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Speaker 1: or you know, make them stumble a little bit. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a this is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: So and and you look at it as Okay, look

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Speaker 4: you've got that was gonna be probably a big match

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Speaker 4: of the night Ladder match, Lucher Brothers versus the Young Bucks.

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Speaker 4: Then you come in Ray Phoenix is hurt going into

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Speaker 4: you know, catapulting into TV taping. You've already lost Moxley

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Speaker 4: due to MRSA. So it's like, when will AEW decide

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Speaker 4: to say, look, we're not gonna let you guys do

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Speaker 4: indie shows anymore. I get that they're still trying to

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Speaker 4: build everything, but you're still taking that risk.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I mean you are, I would say, but I I

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Speaker 5: don't know if they're yet in that position to say, hey,

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Speaker 5: you know, cut it, let's cut back on indie shows

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Speaker 5: and let's be a little exclusive because you don't have

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Speaker 5: the full on TV product out yet, So don't which

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Speaker 5: way it goes like that, you're still building equity when

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Speaker 5: when it comes to the roster. So it's a tough call,

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Speaker 5: like you said, because you don't want to expose them

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Speaker 5: them for whatever they may be. So it's a tough call.

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Speaker 5: But I can understand the argument for both. But currently, yeah,

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Speaker 5: if if it would have gone worse. Uh than just

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Speaker 5: like it's hurting his leg, it could have been worse.

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Speaker 5: For a broken leg that would have that would have

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Speaker 5: like you said, with Maxley being out. I can understand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this whole, this whole idea of having

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Speaker 1: a big and for those listening, I'm doing Bunny Years.

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Speaker 1: The you know, big companies allowing their wrestlers to do

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Speaker 3: It's pretty new.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I was grown up, that didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Now you're in w C w U w CW. If

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think it's a I think it's

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Speaker 1: But on the other token, you know, they can also

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Speaker 1: the Indian especially you know Kenny Omega, he's already said,

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Speaker 4: It's for it's for a company that was with for

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Speaker 3: I saw that, because they're going to like some hall.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Noah, and it wasn't all Japan. I can't

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Speaker 1: I remember who it is now. But I mean, same

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Speaker 1: Jericho's same thing. He's gonna go back to New Japan

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Speaker 4: So because I mean it's it's you know, you do

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And prime example, our friend Marco Stunt, he was doing

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Speaker 4: So who's out for like six months as he was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing with Janella. He jumped off the turnbuckle

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Speaker 1: good that Impact uses it for TV shows, you know.

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Speaker 1: We're never going to have another Hogan, you know. But

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, we're just gonna kind of stick, I

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Speaker 4: guess with the indie stuff. Somebody who's been a past

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Speaker 4: guest on the show, Ken Shamrock, just signed a deal

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Speaker 4: with the Impact Dress.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

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Speaker 5: I think it's his first time since the first initial

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the first TNA slash n WA champ.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was kind of what we talked about

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Speaker 4: on that episode, which, by the way, just go back

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Speaker 4: and find it's a great episode.

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Speaker 3: Hearing about that, but.

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Speaker 1: We can't bother telling you which episode. Just go back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been a few back.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so Ken Shamrock, because I was scrolling through

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Speaker 4: TNA posted their history videos and it was showing the

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Speaker 4: match when Shamrock won the title, and then Brian Cage

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Speaker 4: you full circle. Blah blah blah blah blah. Ken Shamrock

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Speaker 4: that Ken SHAMROCK's wrestling and his first opponent looks like

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be Moose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is you know, Moose is a big, hard

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Speaker 1: hitting dude. He had it was him and Richards, No,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Richards was I guess what Edward's partner?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which I think he. I think they fought too,

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Speaker 2: We were both it was the.

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Speaker 4: P perview because it was the girlfriend, wife whatever got

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so they were like jumping off from the top,

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Speaker 4: I think they now he's wrestling a guy that's like

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Speaker 4: an Impact It's like I guess Panda or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He comes out and he reminds me of Kozuno, but

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Speaker 4: he lost a lot of weight, so that was who

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Speaker 4: he's been kind of.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to see the clip of it, but

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Speaker 5: I think that's what his new feud as well.

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Speaker 2: I forgot the guy's name, but yeah, those.

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Speaker 5: Are my you know when you think about.

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Speaker 4: It, right, So, I mean thoughts will Ken Shamrock because

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Speaker 4: I mean he's been wrestling over in Australia. He's like

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Speaker 4: the current tag team champions, which he talked about on

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Speaker 4: the last episode, and I mean the dude's a freak athlete.

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Speaker 3: He's still in shape and he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, is this kind of a thing for

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Speaker 4: Impact to just continue to bring in the big older

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Speaker 4: names or I mean.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts, I mean, I think if he still can go man,

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Speaker 1: just like you said, I mean, he's he's probably fifty

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Speaker 1: five now. He probably doesn't look like your average fifty

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Speaker 1: five year old. So you know, for a lot of

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Speaker 1: those guys, especially with the MMA background, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: just training is just a part of their life, you know,

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Speaker 1: get up eat breakfast, go to the gym, and then

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm sure he's stayed in awesome shape, and

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe he'll maybe in a year or two,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll have like a you know, like a true

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Speaker 4: This is this is what's great about this this podcast

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Speaker 5: it's groundbreaking.

438
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Speaker 4: Yeah, something else is kind of groundbreaking, is that we're

439
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Speaker 4: kind of gonna go back to a w So you know,

440
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 4: they've lost Moxley for the pay per view and they

441
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,959
Speaker 4: had to like scramble to get a match and they

442
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 4: couldn't find.

443
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 3: A better replacement for this match.

444
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Speaker 4: And you've got Pac who uh if some of you

445
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 4: don't know, that isll Neville from the Oldwe Days and

446
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: he's going against Omega and I mean Poc as we know,

447
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 4: he was supposed to be in aw was it the

448
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Speaker 4: first pay per view?

449
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Speaker 3: He was supposed to be there.

450
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Speaker 1: He was at the press conference in January announcing it

451
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Speaker 1: and came out and confronted Hangman Page and then that

452
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. I think it did happen to Heat Page

453
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 1: flew to England and they had the match, but it

454
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Speaker 1: didn't happen at the pay per view.

455
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Speaker 3: And so you know you've got pot going against Omega.

456
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: But I love the rumor mills when it comes to

457
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: AEW And of course the Internet is always going to

458
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Speaker 4: win when it comes to meme. And we posted a

459
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Speaker 4: meme the other day on our Instagram which you can

460
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Speaker 4: follow us its Battleground podcast. It is a Star Wars

461
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Speaker 4: reference it's Kylo Renn with the aw on his thing

462
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Speaker 4: and he's like, I will avenge you.

463
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Speaker 3: And there's the broken.

464
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Speaker 4: Down Darth Vader mask with the old WCW logo, and

465
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Speaker 4: it just goes to show, like we've talked before, CON's

466
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Speaker 4: like a big WCW fan and you look and it's

467
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Speaker 4: like Jim Ross is commentating, Tony Shavani's commentating.

468
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Speaker 3: And then now the rumor is that Mike.

469
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Speaker 4: Today is coming back, so it's like and then you've

470
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Speaker 4: got Dean Malinko there, so who and Jericho, like who

471
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Speaker 4: else is going to come from the WCW days?

472
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Speaker 3: Do we need to get JJ back for security?

473
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Speaker 1: I don't know the real I've yeah, I saw him

474
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Speaker 1: at all in last year. I met arn Anderson, but

475
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Speaker 1: they had a thing where you could meet uh tolly

476
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Speaker 1: arne JJ and that's not full Horsemen, but that's them.

477
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: And I think it was in front of the they

478
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Speaker 1: had a wall display. It looked like the old w

479
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Speaker 1: CW Saturday Night.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I saw like Tony's posted some funds in front.

481
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Speaker 1: Of it, so that was cool. So JJ's still kicking somewhere. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 1: I heard a rumor, you know, arn Anderson's not with

483
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Speaker 1: w W anymore, so I wouldn't be surprised if he

484
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Speaker 1: ends up with them somehow. So I don't know. I mean,

485
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Speaker 1: I think they have enough to separate them from w CW.

486
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Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna have the comparisons because I

487
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Speaker 1: think within the next year or two they're going to

488
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Speaker 1: be that number two company, you know, the you know,

489
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Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it, they may have

490
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Speaker 1: already passed him. They really haven't done anything yet, but

491
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, probably within a year's time with

492
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Speaker 1: TV and then the pay per views rolling out and

493
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Speaker 1: then Cody said that, I mean, they've only announced like

494
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Speaker 1: forty percent of the roster, so like we don't even

495
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Speaker 1: know who all they have signed.

496
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Speaker 3: Yet, right, So.

497
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Speaker 1: See, it'd be interesting. I'm really bummed I'm not going

498
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Speaker 1: to Chicago next weekend, but sorry, I'll watch it.

499
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Speaker 3: It'll be fun.

500
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Speaker 4: So now here is the portion of the show I

501
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Speaker 4: guess that we can talk about our weekly challenge. Do

502
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Speaker 4: you wanna?

503
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my buddy Steven, he's done like

504
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Speaker 1: commentary and reing announcing. Do you want to get him

505
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Speaker 1: on here.

506
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Speaker 3: To Yes, let's do this.

507
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: We have a Uh, this is what's fun about this

508
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 4: podcast and we just kind of throw stuff together. So

509
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: there is a microphone over there. How do we want

510
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: to Uh, we'll have some more guests on the show.

511
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: It's just fun, So.

512
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Speaker 3: Turn that off, all right.

513
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Speaker 4: So our weekly challenge this week, I'm gonna let Eli

514
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: set it up and then we'll have your buddy make

515
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Speaker 4: the announcement like they're coming down to the ring because

516
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Speaker 4: I don't have to sound effect cool.

517
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Speaker 1: You're okay with that?

518
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: Put the fut we'll see what happens.

519
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking about the original were the original

520
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: weekly challenge was gonna be Dusty against Somemojo. And I

521
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: think Dusty's just in another category. So we're thinking like

522
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: Harley Race versus Somemojo. Interesting, Yeah it is, or we

523
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: could change Joe. I was thinking Harley just because he

524
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Speaker 1: just passed away, so like I don't know who, I

525
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Speaker 1: don't know who would be his equivalent in the modern hmmm.

526
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Speaker 4: See this is where we all just kind of sit

527
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Speaker 4: around and we're all looking around trying to figure this out.

528
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: I'm going through the roster in my brain of like

529
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Speaker 2: every company there.

530
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: Is, Well, who was who was some of the better

531
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Speaker 1: king of the rings? Because I mean he was. He

532
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: was king Harley Race for a while.

533
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Speaker 2: I did see a movie the other night that had

534
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Speaker 2: former King of the Ring Uh Chake the Snake Robert

535
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 2: It's in it And was it Wrestlers Versus No, it

536
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: was Peanut Butter Falcon.

537
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: Oh, that's the movie with Shilah buff right with the kid.

538
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: That's special special.

539
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Need of the year. Not to get us off topic,

540
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Speaker 2: I haven't.

541
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know it's already out.

542
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: I saw the preview for it.

543
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome to add that to the DVR.

544
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Speaker 2: There are two little surprises at the end.

545
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Speaker 3: That's what I need to hear.

546
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Speaker 4: Then see this is where this is where it's tough

547
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: because we're trying to figure this out.

548
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: Or we can go to the other one.

549
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Speaker 4: We could save the Harley and let all the listeners

550
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Speaker 4: chime in of who we who they think Harley Ray

551
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 4: should face, and we can go with the other pick

552
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: uh Psycho sid Vicious versus Lucosaurus from ae W.

553
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Speaker 1: I think the only problem we'll have with that is

554
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: just I've seen Lucasaurus fight like four times, Like I

555
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: don't know enough about him, true.

556
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: Like I've just seen him with like Marco and Jungle

557
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: boy on his shoulders.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Once, once they signed him, I went back and

559
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: googled a couple of things like I'm not a I'm

560
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: not a pro with him by any means.

561
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: So I mean we.

562
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Speaker 3: Could do that.

563
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Speaker 1: That would be a short one. I mean I won't

564
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Speaker 1: contribute much, but I mean we could do that one.

565
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Speaker 5: I think I've only seen him one time. One of

566
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Speaker 5: the time.

567
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Speaker 1: Let's see what if you.

568
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Speaker 5: Do.

569
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Speaker 3: We want to go back and do Harley Race versus

570
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Speaker 3: Brett Hart.

571
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna do Brett Hart versus Omega.

572
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Speaker 3: Let's just do that.

573
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: That is today's challenge. And Brett Hart versus Kenny Omega.

574
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Speaker 4: There's the challenge. So now we get to set it up.

575
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Speaker 1: Cool, so you want him to do just announce it like, yeah,

576
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: it's a match.

577
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it that way.

578
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Cool, all right? Fighting in the corner to my right.

579
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: He is the king of kings, especially in Canada, but

580
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: maybe not in the heart of Tennessee, because there's one

581
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: true king in Tennessee, mister Jered Long. Nonetheless, I bring

582
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: to you, Brett the hitman heart.

583
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: You're the best.

584
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 4: And then now we hit the music, and then Omega's

585
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 4: music starts.

586
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: And to my left, his opponents hailing from ae W.

587
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: Hands down the greatest professional wrestler in wrestling today, Kenny

588
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh Mega boom.

589
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: Ding ding ding. That's the worst belt sound effect. But

590
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: all right, so let's go ahead and break this down.

591
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 4: So the best there is, the best there was, the

592
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Speaker 4: best of wilbe versus possibly one of the greatest wrestlers

593
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Speaker 4: of all time, Brett Hart, Kenny Omega Go.

594
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Speaker 1: I think it would well, it would be a very

595
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Speaker 1: technical match, obviously.

596
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Speaker 3: I'm totally okay with that.

597
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at Brett Hart, he's obviously

598
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: one of the best technicals of all time. Kenny can

599
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: definitely do that. I think he likes to throw in

600
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: some of the Japanese influence and the Mexican influence and

601
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: kind of do more of the high flying stuff. But

602
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Speaker 1: I think to kind of match up with Brett Hart,

603
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: it would be more technical. So that's what I have

604
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: to say to start.

605
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 5: With, all right, PJ, I would say the same thing.

606
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Brett Hart's matt game is just unmatched. I mean,

607
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 5: you can go back and look at all those matches

608
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 5: during this time, as you know, King of the Ring

609
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 5: and even before that and even after that actually with Kenny,

610
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: like you mentioned, he is very Matt based as well,

611
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: but also likes to throw in his influence with high flying.

612
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 5: But you know, you have to stick it to the

613
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: ground game if you want to beat Brett at his game.

614
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: So it would be a very very interesting match, and

615
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: I would I can't pick a side right now. I

616
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: have to like really really dive into it.

617
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: Again.

618
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with both. It would start out very

619
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: slow because they're going to fill each other out. Both

620
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: very technical wrestlers like we've talked about, but also very

621
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: mental as well. Brett was great at getting to people's

622
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: heads and getting them off their game, pissing them off.

623
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: And then Brett would surprise you every once again, especially

624
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: when he was in earlier days in the Heart Foundation,

625
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: and he would fly every once in a while, nothing

626
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: like you're gonna see.

627
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: Nothing crazy stuff, Yeah crazy.

628
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: But you know he'd do a dive outside every once

629
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: in a while.

630
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: So Brett had like unsuspecting power too.

631
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

632
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean you you would you know, he'd he'd belly

633
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: or a belly to back somebody and you're like, how

634
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: did that happen?

635
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 5: You know?

636
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: I think I think the power game would go to

637
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Omega obviously.

638
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: But not by much.

639
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Not by much though. I mean, Omega's really kind of

640
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: like re sculpted his body in the last few years,

641
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 1: so he's a lot more defined than everything. But that

642
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: actually would probably be closer than a lot of people think.

643
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: Brad was surprisingly strong when it came down to it.

644
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was really interesting to kind of see

645
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: how he evolved from being your tag typical tag team

646
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: guy to being almost flawless, you know, singles wrestler and.

647
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Kind of like until he lost his smile, yeah, you.

648
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: Know, until Gilbert kicked him in the head like an idiot.

649
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: But he's he's you know, he's kind of like he's

650
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: up there with like Shawn Michaels and aj Styles who

651
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: that Brett can make anybody look good. And I forgot

652
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: the guy's name, but they had that you know, that

653
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: dark Match.

654
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah I saw that and I was like, that is

655
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: really good.

656
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, and I mean goat that's it. Yeah yeah,

657
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: because he they were at double or nothing when they

658
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: watch it with him, and I didn't pay for that,

659
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: but anyways, I would have.

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Speaker 3: Paid to watch Ready to Rumble with David Arquette though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I'm sure, that's what Vince did, popped

662
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Speaker 1: it in like this guy's is well, well for Vince,

663
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Speaker 1: that's some good ship, you know, and whatever, and and

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Speaker 1: then fast forward a year like, Okay, well that was

665
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Speaker 1: that was the wrong dude, Let's switch that out. So

666
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Speaker 1: so I think it would come down to what we

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Speaker 1: talked about on the last one, is I guess you

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Speaker 1: know what error it would happen. And so if it

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Speaker 1: was you know, nineteen ninety five Brett Hard against you know,

670
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Speaker 1: twenty ten Kinney Omega, like, I'd probably give it to

671
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Speaker 1: Brett Hart. But if it was ninety eight WCW. Brett

672
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Speaker 1: Hart and like current Kinney Omega, I'd give it to

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Speaker 1: Kenny Omega. Like, I think it just kind of depends

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Speaker 1: because because Brett was really solid as a heel and

675
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Speaker 1: as a face. I mean, he did both very well.

676
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: And I really liked before he left where he was

677
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: the bad guy here and then when he went to

678
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: Canada he was a good guy because everyone was like,

679
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: you're telling the truth, we love you, you know, and

680
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: that was a you didn't really see a lot of

681
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Speaker 1: characters do that, the kind of flip flop based on

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Speaker 1: the market they were in.

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Speaker 2: So m I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's a tough one. I'll let you, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you'll chime in with some more stuff.

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Speaker 4: If I agree with everybody, I mean, like you said earlier,

687
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: they would it would start off slow.

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Speaker 3: They got to fill each other out.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Brett's probably gonna get in Omega's head a

690
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Speaker 4: little bit, and you'll probably see Omega get frustrated. But

691
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's like you said,

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Speaker 4: it's what era are we getting?

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Speaker 3: Which Omega are we getting? Which heart are we getting?

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Speaker 4: You know, are we getting you know, early WWF days

695
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Speaker 4: are we getting?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Like if the Omega that fought Okada three times I

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Speaker 1: would put against anybody. I mean, he was, you know,

699
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Speaker 1: almost as flawless as you can get, you know. But

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Speaker 1: I mean some of the highest rated matches of the

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Speaker 1: nineties from WWF were Brett Hart matches. I mean, they

702
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: weren't known for their qualities, you know, technical wrestling in

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Speaker 1: the nineties. So I don't know, I don't know. Do

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Speaker 1: you have anything else to chime in?

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Speaker 5: I would say, like, also, like you mentioned, what era

706
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: we might be getting, especially with Brett Hart, because we

707
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: can look back ninety five, ninety six, after he came

708
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: back from being hurt. Uh, he just took his game

709
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: to a whole new level. At that point, we were,

710
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: you know, we were seeing Brett Hart just having that

711
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 5: career rebirth, you know, having great matches with the guys

712
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 5: like Diesel and then eventually with Shawn Michaels. So it

713
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: would depend what mindset he was in. What mindset are

714
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 5: we going to put this match in, because, like you

715
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 5: also mentioned, if we were getting ninety eight Brett Hart,

716
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: we'd have to give it to pretty much. Can't you

717
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 5: make it currently because his mind wasn't there. But never

718
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: underestimate the psychology of the best there is because when

719
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: he turns it on, he turns it on. So it's

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00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 5: sounding like a total Brett heart mark right now. But

721
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Speaker 5: he's way up there, my favorite of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely up there. Not quite my Mount Rushmore,

723
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: but he's definitely an alternate gred Hart's all been a huge.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people say top five, but not quite

725
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: the top four.

726
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, my top four is weird. Nobody else is

727
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: going to.

728
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Have that as well, So that's okay, Well, just for prosperity,

729
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: what are your what are you talking about right?

730
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Speaker 2: I'm from Memphis, so I'm a lawlor Mark.

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00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: Oh you anybody from Tennessee has to be a Lawamark.

732
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: So it'd be Lawlor arn Anderson because that's who I

733
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: wanted to be growing up. And I always thought he

734
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: was an old man, but he was really a young man.

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: He was a kid.

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Speaker 1: It's weird how that perspective changes when you're you know,

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00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: you're eight or nine years old, and you think people

738
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Speaker 1: that are doing this stuff for a forty years and fifty,

739
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Speaker 1: like now they're twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: He was like thirty four fired or whatever something. But

741
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: it it'd be Jericho. I've been a huge market hits forever.

742
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Speaker 2: And then the one that nobody ever goes to is

743
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: Nick Bockwinkel. Yeah. He was the greatest, uh when it

744
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: came to psychology to wrestle ever in my mind. Yeah,

745
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: I've always loved him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They were talking about actually it was the the MGF

747
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: interview with Jericho and he said MGF said he or

748
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Jericho said he got some information for him or inspiration

749
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Speaker 1: from him when he.

750
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Speaker 2: Came back and did the slow methodic talking with the

751
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: suit all the time. That was straight Nick Bonk.

752
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean we could talk about that real

753
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Speaker 1: quick if you want to.

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00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: I mean, we're just going in different We're just going

755
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: in all different directions. But yeah, if you want to

756
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: chime in on this, you can check out the post.

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Speaker 4: It's on our Instagram. It's Battleground Podcasts. Who are you

758
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: going to pick on uh winning this matchup?

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Speaker 1: I think my official I think I think overall, I

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Speaker 1: think i'd pick Brett Hart. I think he I think

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00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: he was the top guy for longer, you know, so

762
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Speaker 1: I think he had more high quality matches. But I mean,

763
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Omega's still probably got a ten or fifteen years,

764
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: so there's no telling what he can still do. So

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Speaker 1: I think overall i'd give it to Brett. But again,

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00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: if it was again like you were just saying, if it

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Speaker 1: was a ninety eight Brett Hard against current Kenny Omega,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think Kenny would take it. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: my pick.

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Speaker 5: So well, I would say it'd be an entertaining match.

771
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 5: It's something I would definitely pay to see, just because

772
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 5: you're seeing two ring masters go at it from you know,

773
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: from passing from the current. But I would have to

774
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: agree with you. Brett Hard was just I mean, he

775
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: was he was to me, he was a god almost.

776
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 5: He was the man for me. But but it's no

777
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: saying that that can't change five years down the road,

778
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 5: because it's like you mentioned, can you Omega still out there,

779
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: still evolving, and who knows what he may have is

780
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: up his sleep now that he's going to aw and

781
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 5: can have quality matches you with newer talent, current talent.

782
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: So Brett Hard for.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I agree. I mean he's not called the best,

784
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: there is best, there was best, there will be for

785
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: without a reason. So Brett Hard all day. Yeah, or

786
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: maybe it goes to twenty minute draw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that would be one that I'd be cool with,

788
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Like an hour long Iron Man match. I mean, I

789
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: think they're sick. I think they I think they could

790
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: pull it off.

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 5: So so would you prefer to be a Iron Man

792
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: match where it's like zero zero after sixty minutes or

793
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 5: ten to nine?

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Speaker 3: Man, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Let's let you guys that are out there listening to

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Speaker 4: side you can chime in. It's on our Instagram Battleground podcast.

797
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Speaker 4: But that is gonna do it for the show today,

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Speaker 4: we've kind.

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Speaker 3: Of been rambling on.

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Speaker 4: We do have a a big show later on in

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Speaker 4: the week al Snow. Last week we had some scheduling conflict,

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Speaker 4: but Ali Snow will be on the show on Friday,

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Speaker 4: and you could check out past episodes with Eric Bishoff,

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Speaker 4: Mark Henry, anybody else we want to shout out.

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Speaker 3: Shamrock and Tommy Dreamer. Tommy Dreamer, there's the list on

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Speaker 3: and on.

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Speaker 4: You can get this podcast wherever you get your podcast from,

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Speaker 4: but Instagram, Like I said, Battleground podcast.

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Speaker 3: Twitter, we are battleground. I hr and uh. Check out

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Speaker 3: some of the cool videos from Ring and Monitor that

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Speaker 3: we posted last night. That it is that all we

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Speaker 3: want to say sounds good. I don't know what else

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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 4: This is always the awkward part where we try to

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Speaker 4: close out the show and we all just kind of

816
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Speaker 4: stare at each other awkwardly.

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Speaker 1: So what do I do with my hands?

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Speaker 3: What what happens here? We still have to figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to say goodbye. So I'm just gonna say goodbye.

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Speaker 3: Is that it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Bye?

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our guest for jumping in on the show today.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been fun until next week, right, awesome

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Speaker 4: for Friday whenever. I don't know, I'm just gonna go

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Speaker 4: ahead and stop now We'll talk to you guys later.

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