Speaker 1: Wake up class. The substitute is here and it's time
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Speaker 1: Episode four Up the Daily zeit geis. This is still
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Speaker 1: we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It
Speaker 1: is Thursday, March thirtieth, twenty twenty three. You say what
Speaker 1: national day it is? It's actually National take a Walk
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Speaker 1: like saying Turkey Neck, National Doctor's Day, National Virtual Vacation Day.
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Speaker 1: very own Becca Ramos, who just had to stunt on
Speaker 1: us in the chat saying, yeah, I took a walk
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Speaker 1: He went on vacation when I got back to the show. Now,
Speaker 1: these guests, I saw my new favorite friends. But when
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Speaker 1: out to Fighter of the Night Man for that jumping
Speaker 1: jump in Destiny's Child based AKA thanks. It's been a
Speaker 1: while so to be able to sing that. And I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined by my guest co host, who's
Speaker 1: a wonderful chef, who's a wonderful comedian, writer, producer. He's
Speaker 1: done it all, he's made it all, he's seen it all,
Speaker 1: and he's also again I'm gonna keep saying it, he's
Speaker 1: got the hands of Tyson. Okay, this thing will break
Speaker 1: the internet. I don't even know how to else they're
Speaker 1: introduce him, but please welcome Andrew g Yo. What's up?
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to come up with a song AKA,
Speaker 1: so the best I came up with is aka Kirkland
Speaker 1: jack O'Brien hey ka, whack O'Brien heyka, And kind of
Speaker 1: feels like they got Randall Park to play jaff for
Speaker 1: what nah? Wait, what did you study in college, are
Speaker 1: your bio guy. You don't want to we don't want to?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. See in Jack's
Speaker 1: the philosophy guy. So it's I like, we got to
Speaker 1: switch it up with where people's heads. Yeah, I'm the
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the I'm the nerd. I'm I mean
Speaker 1: that's the yesterday. You're like, yo, I could sequence your DNA,
Speaker 1: like if you really want me to. I mean I
Speaker 1: just feel like, don't, don't do give it to the companies. No,
Speaker 1: do this shit yourself. You just need to do. Andrew, Andrew,
Speaker 1: I will, I will go in on with like a
Speaker 1: PCR machine with you, just to start sequencing all these
Speaker 1: people we know in l A's DNA. It's like as
Speaker 1: like a weird Twitter thing. How about this if the
Speaker 1: writer strike goes more than a month or yeah, because
Speaker 1: at that time, every like piece of work I could
Speaker 1: pretend to have done, will hawrdy be done and are like, well, right,
Speaker 1: I guess we're doing boot like DNA labs. There it is.
Speaker 1: And then in the process you're gonna have a wonderful
Speaker 1: idea and gonna be yeah, feel it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: two dudes sequencing DNA for Undercut twenty three and me.
Speaker 1: But then they find a dude with like again like
Speaker 1: Laura's boyfriend yesterday who had the unsequenceable DNA, and then
Speaker 1: we get obsessed with this guy and it's a look
Speaker 1: I can already see it. And also then but we
Speaker 1: also have to witness a murder and then be on
Speaker 1: the run for it to be a good comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you always gotta sequencing DNA out of the back of
Speaker 1: out of the trunk of your car. Yeah, succe, that's
Speaker 1: our play. This is gonna work well. Now I like
Speaker 1: this speaking of the trunk of the car, which we
Speaker 1: don't fucking need because we're looking at a fucking wheel
Speaker 1: based nation, and I mean two wheels. We're talking bicycling. Okay.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is a writer, TV producer, comm's professional
Speaker 1: and the co host of the War on Cars podcast.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to the microphone, Doug Garden. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm amazed at that segue that you went from sequencing
Speaker 1: DNA to the back of a car to my podcast.
Speaker 1: So thanks nice. We're nimble, We're nimble blood here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You need one guy who studied
Speaker 1: history and one guy who is a neuroscience person and
Speaker 1: you have a podcast. There you go, Doug Man, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. It's good to have you. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: great to be here, super excited. Are you coming to
Speaker 1: us from New York? Oh? I'm coming from yeah, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York. So because of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: from Yeah, Okay? And are you? And you're from You're
Speaker 1: from New York originally originally originally, but I grew up
Speaker 1: north of Boston. So I've been in New York now
Speaker 1: for twenty six years, so otter than half of my life.
Speaker 1: But I guess that makes me a new Bee by
Speaker 1: some standards. So I guess what do you? What do
Speaker 1: you think are people? I mean, Andrew, you're you're transplant
Speaker 1: to LA. At what point do you how many years
Speaker 1: in LA do you have to say like you're from LA?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Oh, I don't even know
Speaker 1: about that. I say, you're from Michigan. Where you from Michigan?
Speaker 1: I'm from Michigan. I remember wind that a little bit
Speaker 1: and say I kept on thinking of myself as new
Speaker 1: in town for one decade in La. Okay, I would
Speaker 1: just I'd be like I'm new I don't know where
Speaker 1: anything is. Yeah, yeah, but you're like you just put
Speaker 1: me on like all these restaurants we'll be talking about.
Speaker 1: I always think that, like you're a New Yorker when
Speaker 1: you walk by a store and you're like, oh that
Speaker 1: pizza joint, Yeah, that used to be a cell phone store.
Speaker 1: And as soon as you know that, you're like, you
Speaker 1: live here, you're a native, right, Like yeah, can you
Speaker 1: look at a storefront and go like three businesses ago
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh shit, the neighborhood just totally sucks
Speaker 1: now that they change that, Yeah, amazing, amazing. And you
Speaker 1: know the are you like, are you all on cycles?
Speaker 1: You're all about the bicycle. I'm guessing you want to
Speaker 1: see them all about the bicycle, walking public transit, taking
Speaker 1: the subway. I'm a New Yorker, so I'm most the
Speaker 1: subway at the bush. But yeah, cycling is a big
Speaker 1: part of It's how I got my start sort of
Speaker 1: in advocacy and doing this work that we do with
Speaker 1: a podcast. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I think cycle
Speaker 1: like I feel like, especially in the pandemic, there was
Speaker 1: a moment right where you could tell some cities or
Speaker 1: like fully being like man, fuck these cars like use
Speaker 1: these streets to do like bipedal shit, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like we don't need to do all this
Speaker 1: other stuff. And I felt like I felt like it
Speaker 1: was such a good trend. I was becoming hopeful. It's
Speaker 1: like maybe LA could have a little more bike infrastructure
Speaker 1: rather than like three miles of it just spread out
Speaker 1: through the city like fragmented into half mile segments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's definitely some cities that lost a little momentum after
Speaker 1: you know, things started to reopen and cars started coming
Speaker 1: back and forth, including New York. Our traffic is worse
Speaker 1: than ever. But you know LA has a sequevia, right,
Speaker 1: they do that. Yeah, they shut down like miles and
Speaker 1: miles of streets all the time, much more than New
Speaker 1: York does. Actually, So there's there's reasons for hope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess that's a like I guess in my
Speaker 1: mind it's like I would love the kind of infrastructure
Speaker 1: that like you have in certain parts of the Bay
Speaker 1: Area too. Are they were heavy on They're like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: half of this street is for bikes. You know. I
Speaker 1: love that kind of thing. I want to see aggressive
Speaker 1: action from LA, but I know that will not happen
Speaker 1: because the wealthy control all the business here and they
Speaker 1: like cars. So yeah, people like their parking, that's the
Speaker 1: big thing. I like they're parking. I was one of
Speaker 1: those freaks when I lived in New York who I
Speaker 1: didn't buy a metro card for a calendar year. I
Speaker 1: was like biking literally every day. I think I didn't
Speaker 1: like a ticket or something. Oh no, no, no, I
Speaker 1: literally I biked for a calendar year just to see
Speaker 1: if I could do it. And I think I did
Speaker 1: the math and in the amount of like and this
Speaker 1: is a me problem, not a bike trip problem. Everyone
Speaker 1: should bike. I think I spent more on like fancy
Speaker 1: gloves that I lost that I would have on metric parts.
Speaker 1: You did it wrong. You need like cheap gloves that
Speaker 1: you get at the dollars store that you can just
Speaker 1: ask like you don't care if you lose them. I
Speaker 1: mean I actually nerded out one year and I bought
Speaker 1: this expensive kid carrying bike. I have two kids, And
Speaker 1: to sort of justify the costs, I kept track of
Speaker 1: how many subway trips I was replacing, how many cab
Speaker 1: trips I was replacing, And I think in the year
Speaker 1: I saved over fifteen hundred bucks, and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's good that this is this is a
Speaker 1: good amount of savings. This justifies the purchase of this bicycle. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I can buy three hundred dollars gloves because that's
Speaker 1: what I helped all right now, I spent all the
Speaker 1: money at glash. I had sick ass gloves. It just
Speaker 1: kept on losing one. What were they, man, Pearl the Zoomis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just Pearl Zoomis and then the face mask. I
Speaker 1: got very paranoid about the biking all winter part of it.
Speaker 1: So it's pretty hardcore. Did you make it? You made
Speaker 1: it all year? Huh? Yeah? It was not great. I
Speaker 1: got yeah, but I was also young and not we'll say,
Speaker 1: not following traffic or many safety rules about how you bike.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot all the all the issues for
Speaker 1: me problem not a bike problem, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: It will just say shout out to the sponsors pearl Is,
Speaker 1: ZOOMI bike and gloves. I don't know why I know that.
Speaker 1: I just remember being a kid, and I remember when
Speaker 1: I bought my first like I wanted to get a
Speaker 1: mountain bike and we went to the store. I was like, Dad,
Speaker 1: I want these gloves. What the fuck you need these
Speaker 1: gloves for? It's like that mountain bike and like that.
Speaker 1: And I remember they were Pearl Zoomis and I was like,
Speaker 1: one day the name sticks with you. Yeah, but I've
Speaker 1: got to imagine the Prophet Martin's Higo goes, because they
Speaker 1: really pushed them at the bike stores. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think they probably make more money on the accessories
Speaker 1: from people who keep losing their gloves than they do
Speaker 1: the bikes themselves. Right right, all right, Doug, Well, let's
Speaker 1: get into what we're gonna talk about and then we'll
Speaker 1: get to know you even better. But here's a rundown
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about today. We're gonna come back
Speaker 1: to Representative Tim Burkett's comments about, you know, from Nashville
Speaker 1: after the shooting, when he said, well, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to fix it, and when it was asked
Speaker 1: what the solution was, he said, I don't know. I'm homeschooling.
Speaker 1: That's my daughter's homeschool, so I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: So we'll get into that very bad take and how
Speaker 1: the far right loves this terrible bad faith argument to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I mean, it's really the only solution
Speaker 1: everything is just to go back to the you know
Speaker 1: in eighteen hundreds and just kind of bang like that.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. Then we'll also talk about
Speaker 1: a very vulnerable school principle at a at a charter school,
Speaker 1: just to kind of go off the heels of like
Speaker 1: let's destroy public education, just to kind of check in
Speaker 1: with the kinds of people that are running some of
Speaker 1: the charter schools. This is from Volusia County, Florida. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about a very sticky situation they got into, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about AI it's being I read
Speaker 1: an article that it was used in a court in
Speaker 1: India and that it's funny because the timing of that,
Speaker 1: like on Wednesday eleven hundred, like leading experts in AI
Speaker 1: pen this open letter that said you need to figure
Speaker 1: out what's going on before we start going full scheme
Speaker 1: on all these different models that are being developed. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, and then quick Internet debate. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to settle here since we have some fantastic
Speaker 1: minds on the show, where we will use our collective
Speaker 1: wisdom to settle this TikTok debate. About airplanes. But first,
Speaker 1: before we do any of that, I got to ask you, Doug,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's you know,
Speaker 1: revealing about reveal something about what you're into right now.
Speaker 1: And if you looked at my search history, it would
Speaker 1: basically be things like pain top of foot him, muscle pain.
Speaker 1: I'm a big runner. I run a couple of marathons,
Speaker 1: but I'm also old. Okay, I'm going to be fifteen
Speaker 1: next year, and so any run that I come back
Speaker 1: from usually results in a search of like what was that? Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: are you Are you one of those runners? Or like
Speaker 1: the first mile and a half you got to just
Speaker 1: blow all the pain out your lugs and then you
Speaker 1: settle in, or you kind of like every time I
Speaker 1: run the first mile is apps it's like my body,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that scene in Forrest Gump when
Speaker 1: his leg braces are breaking off. That's how I always
Speaker 1: saying first two or three miles of any race that
Speaker 1: I do. Any run that I do is just like
Speaker 1: the warm up, which is a real problem if you're
Speaker 1: doing like a five k because that's basically three miles, right,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's pretty much me. Okay, got it? And
Speaker 1: then wait, what's it. What's the top of the foot paint?
Speaker 1: Oh man, like you know, yeah, you know your stuff, metatarsal,
Speaker 1: you know, all that kind of stuff, and then bottom
Speaker 1: of the foot planter, fasciatus, all that stuff. You should
Speaker 1: see my appointment heal striking. What's your form? Like you
Speaker 1: heal striking? Can we get heal strike? A little bit
Speaker 1: too much? Yeah? A little bit too much. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: apartment's like a physical therapist office. I've got like the
Speaker 1: phone pads, the thera bands, and like the wobble boards
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. So I'm constantly trying to
Speaker 1: like figure you know, one thing breaks, you fix it,
Speaker 1: and then the next thing breaks. Like I'm like an
Speaker 1: old car basically. Yeah, yeah, I got some hip flix
Speaker 1: or paint I'm trying to get basically. Yeah, we're sitting
Speaker 1: too much too, that's a big problem. Yeah, exactly exactly. Andrew,
Speaker 1: you have I know you're a physical specimen, so you
Speaker 1: probably Oh no, I actually can't run. I've had two
Speaker 1: knee surgeries. Really yeah, I've had twoknee surgeries. But between
Speaker 1: the one and two, and I'm sure that led to
Speaker 1: number two, I like wouldn't stop kickboxing, so like wasn't
Speaker 1: great problem, Like, man, your patella can't handle anymore of
Speaker 1: these kicks. It really was not. Not idea and wrestling
Speaker 1: too are just like why why do we doing? I
Speaker 1: should be so I'm bad. I'm just like a At
Speaker 1: least earlier in my life, I was like, I'll just
Speaker 1: get new knees. Just run down to the store, ye
Speaker 1: up a spare set of gloves and yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: not wise advice for anyone listening to this who still
Speaker 1: has good knees. I know, man, I I fucked my
Speaker 1: knee up terribly at a when I when I worked
Speaker 1: at Playboy, there was a staff party at the mansion
Speaker 1: that they would have every year, and there's like a
Speaker 1: hill at the play Boy Man's this is look. I know,
Speaker 1: it's a terrible fucking place to work. Trust me. I
Speaker 1: worked there with Jamie Loftus. We were there at the
Speaker 1: same time. It was kind of a crazy situation. But
Speaker 1: they set up this slip and slide that's on a
Speaker 1: very steep hill and I went down this thing full
Speaker 1: speed and when I hit the fucking like backstop of it,
Speaker 1: almost like full hyper extended my shit because like it
Speaker 1: was so the speed I hit. It was so intense
Speaker 1: and I for a second, like I went to a
Speaker 1: doctor and they're like, you know, you you may need
Speaker 1: surgery because I was playing a lot of soccer at
Speaker 1: the times, Like if you want to do that like
Speaker 1: and kind of recover, And I was like, well, what
Speaker 1: happens if I don't. He's like, you could try and
Speaker 1: let it heal. It's like not so bad that you
Speaker 1: couldn't just like stay off it to see what happens.
Speaker 1: And I opted for staying off it. And I've stayed
Speaker 1: off it for many years now to that point where
Speaker 1: I'm like to get this ship going again. Yeah, Doug,
Speaker 1: what some of you think is overrated? Oh? Man? Can
Speaker 1: I go on to rant here? Is that all right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I say this as a New Yorker. Expensive restaurants in
Speaker 1: New York City totally overrated. So my wife and I
Speaker 1: just got reservations for this place. Everybody's been talking about it.
Speaker 1: It's the kind of place where like you have to
Speaker 1: stay up till two in the morning when they release
Speaker 1: the next set of reservation anthea and book it like
Speaker 1: five or six weeks and you just got to pick
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what time it is. Three PM on
Speaker 1: a Thursday, like you're going and uh and it was good.
Speaker 1: It definitely it was good. But I think we only
Speaker 1: went because everybody we got caught up in the hype
Speaker 1: everyone's going and uh my. My general philosophy of New
Speaker 1: York is, like whatever that restaurant is, that is the
Speaker 1: place everyone's talking about it. You can absolutely find like
Speaker 1: the hole in the wall version of that place in
Speaker 1: some random neighborhood in Queens or wherever, and go there
Speaker 1: and spend a quarter of the price for three times
Speaker 1: the time that you're going to be there more food,
Speaker 1: and come out just as satisfied, feeling like you had
Speaker 1: a better experience. So I don't want I definitely don't
Speaker 1: want to shoot on this place because it was good.
Speaker 1: And and no, no, no, no no, they're down the
Speaker 1: tet what kind of cuisine that'll give it away? I said,
Speaker 1: I've said too much already. People parts up are coming
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I get that. Like LA two, I
Speaker 1: mean like I feel like we're really going through like
Speaker 1: the instagramification of restaurants, where how shit looks on social media,
Speaker 1: like how it looks on a social media post is
Speaker 1: half the battle to like get somebody through the door
Speaker 1: because I fell victim to it. Recently. I saw this
Speaker 1: restaurant and I said, Yo, this place is look fucking lit.
Speaker 1: I go in there, and the food was mediocre at best,
Speaker 1: Like it looked good in pictures, but I'm like this,
Speaker 1: y'all are not fucking bringing it for a fucking nine
Speaker 1: dollars taco, sir. This is not this is not the place.
Speaker 1: And it was like, Yeah, I had a real like
Speaker 1: I kind of came out of it being like I
Speaker 1: really got like seduced by the imagery of the restaurant,
Speaker 1: and but when I got there, the food is like
Speaker 1: not even close to how nice the ambiance was. I
Speaker 1: feel like LA is so clearly that like I've lived,
Speaker 1: you know, about ten years in New York, La, I've
Speaker 1: I never at any point thought the fancy place was good.
Speaker 1: Like I I've always been like, LA is the best
Speaker 1: place to eat if you're spending less than I don't know,
Speaker 1: with inflation twenty five dollars a person I used to
Speaker 1: a person, Yeah, it's better to go to Strip Maller
Speaker 1: gets something from outside kind of categorically in LA, like
Speaker 1: the hind dining here is real bad. Yeah, because the
Speaker 1: best sushi restaurants are not the ones that Nozawa is
Speaker 1: working with. Like, yeah, like Nozawa had his time. Nozawa
Speaker 1: had some in the eighties and early nineties. I get it,
Speaker 1: and then he off the strength of that he launched
Speaker 1: Sugarfish and all the other shit. But like, it's not
Speaker 1: it's to me, my mom, we talked shit about Sugarfish
Speaker 1: low key. We're like the rice is too loose. They're
Speaker 1: fucking yea, they're sucking us around over here, and you
Speaker 1: and there are great hole in the wall places for sushi.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, this is actually the best fucking place
Speaker 1: out there. So I definitely agree with both of y'all. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In New York, it's like if it's down a flight
Speaker 1: of stairs, like that's a good that's a good sign
Speaker 1: that it's realy pretty good. Yeah, I means the prices
Speaker 1: are lower as well if you just send ye really
Speaker 1: is my favorite La grift is the Asian people just
Speaker 1: charging like a yeah I had mark up for I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'll power to him. But every part of David chag
Speaker 1: is just like he knows his audience who people don't
Speaker 1: know where to get in other even like the overpriced tacos.
Speaker 1: I'm like, getting where you fit in because people are
Speaker 1: gonna you know, people will know, they're like, I ain't
Speaker 1: paying for that, and other people will gladly hand over
Speaker 1: twelve dollars from guacamole. Yeah, and I'm like, you have
Speaker 1: played yourself completely, but yeah, shout out to shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody finding the real spots out there. Doug what
Speaker 1: something thing is underrated? Well, this one I got to
Speaker 1: be pretty on brand. And I gotta say bicycles completely underrated,
Speaker 1: like as maybe one of the greatest inventions in the
Speaker 1: history of humanity. And I'm not I'm not exaggerating. You know,
Speaker 1: if you think about I'm gonna get a little wonky here,
Speaker 1: I guess please if you think about three things that
Speaker 1: came out at around the same time, the telephone, the bicycle,
Speaker 1: and the typewriter. The telephone now just this little computer
Speaker 1: that's sits in your pocket. The typewriter is now pretty
Speaker 1: much that little computer that sits in your pocket. But
Speaker 1: the but the bicycle is pretty much unchanged in like
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years. And uh, it's it's an amazing,
Speaker 1: remarkable machine. It's kind of amazing that all of these
Speaker 1: cities like you were saying, are re embracing it. And
Speaker 1: I think for me, like the most underrated virtue of
Speaker 1: this underrated machine is uh, you know everyone talks about
Speaker 1: you get fit, you save money, all the stuff. You're
Speaker 1: always on time, you know, like when you ride a bike,
Speaker 1: you beat you beat traffic. You don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about like if is the bus stuck in traffic? Or
Speaker 1: do I have to find a parking space. It's like,
Speaker 1: um that quote from from Gandalf, like a wizard is
Speaker 1: never early or late. He arrives exactly what he means too.
Speaker 1: I feel like bicycling has that magic power. You're you're
Speaker 1: always on time. When I when I bike to work,
Speaker 1: I was like always at my desk at exactly the
Speaker 1: same time every day, right right. I mean that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily a point of pride for me. I pride myself
Speaker 1: on being late as fuck all the time to my
Speaker 1: jobs and then trying to provoke my manager to say so,
Speaker 1: but he won't, but he won't. But yeah, the bike too,
Speaker 1: right in the sense of like what other machine do
Speaker 1: you have that can convert human energy, like in the
Speaker 1: way that a bicycle can so efficiently to travel it's
Speaker 1: like the most energy efficient machine you can think of.
Speaker 1: Pretty much. Actually, yeah, every apocalypse movie ed show is
Speaker 1: wrong because yes, real apocalypse, everyone would have a mouth bike.
Speaker 1: That would be by far the most important thing. Oh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this is not a very long podcast,
Speaker 1: but I could go on for hours about just this topic.
Speaker 1: Like I just watched The Last of Us, which is incredible,
Speaker 1: it's an amazing thing. But there's a scene I'm not
Speaker 1: spoiling anything where they're siphoning gas but it's twenty years
Speaker 1: after that. Yeah, that get downfall of society, like and
Speaker 1: they sort of make a nod too and say like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get more of it to make it work.
Speaker 1: But like, no, it would just be sludge in your
Speaker 1: glass tank. It wouldn't work. And there are yeah, there
Speaker 1: are no bicycles in most apocalyptic films, but like, if
Speaker 1: you want, if you want to avoid zombies, bikes are great,
Speaker 1: great teeth thing. They're quiet, you know, you can fix
Speaker 1: some of yourself. A kid can ride it. Yeah, can
Speaker 1: roll up on your enemies on a bike. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: super silent. Yeah, exactly, they don't know, they don't know.
Speaker 1: On this take to take the baseball cards off the
Speaker 1: spokes then yeah, you're stealth. I mean, honestly, a real
Speaker 1: future society is like everyone's kind of like a night
Speaker 1: but they're on a mountain bike. Yeah yeah, so baseball
Speaker 1: bats and bikes and yo, I believe it, man. I
Speaker 1: mean and like, I feel like that we've hit the
Speaker 1: peak of what a bicycle does with electric bikes now
Speaker 1: where it's like, yeah, now there's a little motor to
Speaker 1: assist you, but we're still pedaling and shit. But you know,
Speaker 1: the song remains the same on how to use it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and all the complaints that you get about, oh I'd
Speaker 1: be too hot if I'm riding bike, it's too far,
Speaker 1: it's too hilly, like e bikes change that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I live in a hilly like kind of on a
Speaker 1: I live like everything is downhill for me. So it's
Speaker 1: fun to get to ship like I'm like way, and
Speaker 1: then when I'm like fuck, i gotta go back, that's
Speaker 1: when i kick that pedal assist on and I'm just
Speaker 1: like blowing yo, I blow by. Like there's like this
Speaker 1: group of like land Armstrong midlife prices dudes who like
Speaker 1: they going like a fucking full peloton like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like up like on the streets and
Speaker 1: I I fucking smoked these these fucking guys and they
Speaker 1: were like they were doing like they're like, okay, it's
Speaker 1: so wild the fuckings. There's like anger with like non
Speaker 1: e bite people, to e bite people. I'm like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: save your energy for your fucking uphill riding to reclaim
Speaker 1: your masculinity and your tight outfit. They'll accuse you, they'll
Speaker 1: accuse you of cheating, but you're like, dude, you you're
Speaker 1: your bike has gears. You're like, you're not on a
Speaker 1: tenny farthing, yeah, riding around on out of my way
Speaker 1: miscreants like oh shit, yeah exactly. And that's why I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not a competition. You're doing this for exercise. I'm
Speaker 1: going to fucking buy black and like, you know, fucking
Speaker 1: blunts and shit or whatever at the store. Like fuck.
Speaker 1: I had been to New York Is so long and
Speaker 1: I went last year and I was on a city
Speaker 1: bike and I was trying to keep pace with this
Speaker 1: person who I was like, I feel like I should
Speaker 1: be beat even that mother bike. And I did not
Speaker 1: realize until they smoked me right around actually right around
Speaker 1: Park slope that I was like, Oh, they've been on
Speaker 1: any bike this whole time. It was when they stopped
Speaker 1: peddling and kept accelerating for like two blocks. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank god invisible sale technology either. I was just like
Speaker 1: I can't I can't lose. I love what that does
Speaker 1: to people though, for real, Like you're like, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: be beaten by this full like with the tattered sweatpants
Speaker 1: and like a half a sandal on. But yeah, guess
Speaker 1: what you did. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come right back to talk about our home
Speaker 1: schooling future right after this. And we're back, and just
Speaker 1: wanted to continue on something that Andrew brought up yesterday
Speaker 1: when we were talking about Representative Tim Burkett or Burchett
Speaker 1: from Tennessee, who was asked to a very direct question about,
Speaker 1: you know, school shootings and what Congress is rolling it,
Speaker 1: which he said, I don't really think we have a
Speaker 1: role at all. And then more importantly, when you know,
Speaker 1: this journalist is like, well, you're clearly acknowledging the danger.
Speaker 1: How do you think we protect people like your daughter
Speaker 1: you just mentioned? And this was his answer, What should
Speaker 1: be done to protect people like your little girlfriend being
Speaker 1: safety school. Well, we home schoiler. You know, that's our decision.
Speaker 1: Some people don't have that option. And frankly, some people
Speaker 1: don't need to do it. I mean they don't have
Speaker 1: to do it just suited our nates much better. So
Speaker 1: this has brought on a lot of conversation around homeschooling
Speaker 1: because this is like this it's becoming a very It's like,
Speaker 1: this is like the new response from the GOP rather
Speaker 1: than gun control. It was either like it's a mental
Speaker 1: health crisis, but we're not going to fund it, or
Speaker 1: it's yeah, maybe that's why you shouldn't be in fucking schools.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people, like I said, we're like
Speaker 1: to your point, Andrew, You're like, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is all like that was the perfect answer for
Speaker 1: the GOP because A, you're being like, I'm offering terrible
Speaker 1: solution that's actually privatization. Yea. And yeah, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people were just sort of like, this is
Speaker 1: just an absolute absurdity because when you're talking about school
Speaker 1: shooting and the and the answers to protect them with homeschooling,
Speaker 1: that's again, like he said, not a possibility for everyone.
Speaker 1: And also not a fucking solution to the problem. It's
Speaker 1: bad for something. It is like a little look, I
Speaker 1: know that when they're like, don't politicize with school shooting,
Speaker 1: it's like just a talking point and it's bullshit. But
Speaker 1: it is a little like amazing how effortlessly he pivoted
Speaker 1: from this tragedy to just a different talking point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like politicizing it in a admittedly unique but perfect
Speaker 1: for these scumbags way. It's like, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess he stayed on message. Yeah, Like, okay, so after
Speaker 1: you've all day last year, multiple conservative and right wing,
Speaker 1: like far right publications we're putting out a beds that
Speaker 1: were like, man like, they're extolling the virtues of homeschooling.
Speaker 1: They're like, this is the real practical fix for school shootings.
Speaker 1: One headline was homeschooling surges as parents seek escape from
Speaker 1: shootings violence. Another one said tragedies like the Texas shooting
Speaker 1: make a somber case for homeschooling, and in that it says,
Speaker 1: you know, it sort of starts off seeing tragedies like
Speaker 1: the shooting in Texas are heartbreaking but far too common.
Speaker 1: But to protect the most precious innocent lives among us.
Speaker 1: Parents must educate their kids at home. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of parents in you all day did opt to homeschool
Speaker 1: their kids, which I understand because that was a total
Speaker 1: collapse and failure of any system of safety that you know,
Speaker 1: you could have hoped for. But this is just such
Speaker 1: a bad faith argument. And it's really not even talking
Speaker 1: about like the benefits of homeschooling so much as to
Speaker 1: your point, it's about weakening public education. Well, they just
Speaker 1: want to basically give all the money that they're spending
Speaker 1: on public education to these homeschoolers. Right, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to homeschool your kid, fine, like that's
Speaker 1: your choice, you can do it, but you shouldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: get public money, taxpayer dollars to go do that, because
Speaker 1: it takes taxpayer dollars out of the school system and
Speaker 1: makes our schools worse. And this is just they're, like
Speaker 1: you said, they're politicizing this thing to just advance the
Speaker 1: school choice goals that they have to weaken and ultimately
Speaker 1: destroy public schools. I went to public schools as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I got a great education. My kids go to
Speaker 1: public schools. We should be funding them a thousand times
Speaker 1: more than we are now. But that's not that that
Speaker 1: doesn't jive with the Republican agenda. So here you go, well,
Speaker 1: and they love anything that would repeatedly make a public
Speaker 1: school seem like an unsafe place, and conversing or the
Speaker 1: other side of it too, it's like, well, if we're like, well,
Speaker 1: this this private school has you know, former massad agents
Speaker 1: guarding the exterior of it, so I feel like my
Speaker 1: child will be safe there. But again you're looking at
Speaker 1: all these disparities and at the other system, the other
Speaker 1: part of it too, like you know, in reading this
Speaker 1: one piece in Jezebel, which like there was a really
Speaker 1: main huge point too, is a lot of women most
Speaker 1: likely will probably end up staying home to educate the kids.
Speaker 1: So we are fully like we're we're seeing it's like
Speaker 1: a very efficient way to regress that, Like it incentivizes
Speaker 1: privatization and reinforcing these like old like gender roles, and
Speaker 1: it gives half or whatever of the population a shitty
Speaker 1: like education that is like clearly politically biased. I will
Speaker 1: throw out one possibility, which is that, like in a
Speaker 1: law of intended unintended consequences style, I do think if
Speaker 1: every one of these right wing goons took their kids
Speaker 1: and privates or at homeschool them, it actually probably would
Speaker 1: reduce school shootings because I'm just gonna throw this out there,
Speaker 1: those are the kids that highly over index for being
Speaker 1: school shooters. Yeah, it's it's definitely like when you look
Speaker 1: at the problem, right, Like just like with our gun problems, right,
Speaker 1: we have so many guns, but a lot of gun
Speaker 1: violence happens inside of people's home. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, like the most safe place that most
Speaker 1: kids can be for most of the day is at school.
Speaker 1: Despite these high profile and very scary schools. Things like
Speaker 1: there's not just guns at home, but there's abusive parents
Speaker 1: at home. There's all kinds of stuff that like there
Speaker 1: you know a lot of kids here in New York City,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of homeless kids who go to
Speaker 1: public schools and they only get like breakfast and lunch
Speaker 1: because they go to school. Like it's safer for a
Speaker 1: lot of kids to be in a public school than
Speaker 1: it is at home. What's wild is even like the
Speaker 1: Coalition for Responsible Home Education, Right, they're like this nonpartisan
Speaker 1: group that's like they advocate for homeschooling and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They pointed out, They're like, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a solution to fucking school. They were like, that's not
Speaker 1: really this. I mean, we like we advocate for it,
Speaker 1: but that ain't that's not the solution. And they pointed
Speaker 1: out they pointed out at quote, at least one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty six homeschool children have been murdered in homeschooling
Speaker 1: environments over the past two decades, which is a rate
Speaker 1: higher than that of their public school peers. So again,
Speaker 1: no one's saying that it's like bad, but it's so
Speaker 1: deregulated that it leaves kids, especially like as they point out, unique,
Speaker 1: vulnerable to abuse and neglect. And then also like, again,
Speaker 1: it avoids the actual issue that has to be addressed,
Speaker 1: which is guns. Too many guns, too many guns too.
Speaker 1: I've got speaking for the podcast, but I am saying
Speaker 1: hope schooling is bad. Just why I'll say this. I knew.
Speaker 1: I remember I like was in a couple of youth
Speaker 1: sports and like youth like art programs with some kids
Speaker 1: that were homeschooled, and they were definitely socializing a completely
Speaker 1: different manner than I was. Like one day, I remember
Speaker 1: one kid, his whole vibe like we were twelve. I
Speaker 1: thought he was like forty years old, Like he lost
Speaker 1: the kid Like he was like so buttoned up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and had no like because he
Speaker 1: wasn't around other kids to like know what fucking around
Speaker 1: looked like, and then we would be fucking around. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is actually good. We're like what.
Speaker 1: But again, it's there are reasons and our edge cases
Speaker 1: for everything. But I am comfortable saying I think it's
Speaker 1: broadly bad. Yeah, more on the Andrew side than Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if it's a if
Speaker 1: there's a binary that I have to choose between, it's
Speaker 1: public schools all fucking day and it's paid these motherfucking
Speaker 1: teachers at least sixty seventy K a year or something
Speaker 1: like they have to be fucking living with. Because that's
Speaker 1: the other insidious part of this whole thing, too, is
Speaker 1: they're they're trying to completely demoralize people that are that
Speaker 1: want to be an education by being like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you're not going to really have a lot of resources
Speaker 1: at your disposal. I still like to do it. You'd
Speaker 1: also do something else, So it's yeah, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of the alternative stuff to
Speaker 1: these public schools that a lot of people like, which
Speaker 1: is charter schools. And again, not all charter schools are bad,
Speaker 1: but I do want to point out this charter school
Speaker 1: in Volusia County, Florida. This principle had to resign after
Speaker 1: she wrote a check to Elon Musk because it was
Speaker 1: a science sort of focused tech magnet and she really
Speaker 1: wanted to get a leg up on you know, the
Speaker 1: other schools and being like, you know, it'd be great
Speaker 1: if Elon Musk was fucking with Discoo. And let's just
Speaker 1: hear from this local news report. Gee says she spent
Speaker 1: months talking to someone she thought was Elon Musk. She
Speaker 1: was hoping to get the Space Pioneer to invest millions
Speaker 1: in the school in exchange for a one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: upfront investment. The school's business manager got wind of what
Speaker 1: happened and canceled the check before it was cashed. But tonight,
Speaker 1: at a sometimes chaotic and pact school board meeting, other
Speaker 1: school administrators say McGee was repeatedly warned it was a
Speaker 1: scam and laid out other issues they say led to
Speaker 1: a toxic work environment. When employee said they could no
Speaker 1: longer work under doctor McGee, McGee resigned and left the building.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know so this poor boomer, she
Speaker 1: just went, Oh, Elon Musk, what I'm talking to? Elon?
Speaker 1: You'll this like the classic We'll invest in our art school,
Speaker 1: but only for an upfront investment of a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: fucking dollars. This is like the email you get from
Speaker 1: a friend you know, who's hacked at your account or
Speaker 1: something like that. It's like, help me out and stuck.
Speaker 1: Please wire me ten thousand dollars. I'll pay you back
Speaker 1: fifty thousand, right. Yeah. I feel bad for her. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean I do in that like I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: It's sad when people are so genuinely deceived. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this I kind of am like, well, dear,
Speaker 1: this is you're the architect of your own failure here
Speaker 1: because you are so goofed up on Elon Musk being
Speaker 1: some kind of like tech savior that it'sn't even like
Speaker 1: all reason goes out the window because you thought you're
Speaker 1: talking to Elon Musk or something. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think look if you're the principal of a I think
Speaker 1: they said a science school, and you think Elon musks, Like,
Speaker 1: the evidence is his involvement is anti science. So even
Speaker 1: if it were real Elon bus, that should be crowds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, would you like to put this car tunnel
Speaker 1: under your high school instead of school buses to get
Speaker 1: the kids to and from schools? Don't fall for that, folks.
Speaker 1: He's a proofit liar at an idiot. The one thing
Speaker 1: I will say is his Twitter profile I think has
Speaker 1: been a boon to scammers because he's proven himself to
Speaker 1: be so like inarticulate and idiotic that if you've received
Speaker 1: an email written in scammer ees right, you would have
Speaker 1: to be like, this might be really boss. Yeah, it could,
Speaker 1: because he writes like a bozo. Yeah, coupled with someone
Speaker 1: who worships him, then you're like you really feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: God has come down to select me for something. And
Speaker 1: also there sounds like it's from that news clip that
Speaker 1: like the school and some of the parents had problems
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, sure, and this was just the final straw,
Speaker 1: And it sounds like they were like, whoa, lady, this
Speaker 1: sounds not legit. Yeah, you just went ahead with it
Speaker 1: anyway to the point of writing a check, So like,
Speaker 1: maybe this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Speaker 1: I think it was probably one of those things though, too.
Speaker 1: Or they're like, look, obviously, because they pointed out the
Speaker 1: business administrator was on top of it. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking no, we're not. This check is not valid,
Speaker 1: so they knew. And I like that A bunch of
Speaker 1: people were like, it's not real, it's not real. It
Speaker 1: reminds you of like when people like begging their like
Speaker 1: parent who has like fallen in love with like a
Speaker 1: stock photo like and that came to be like a
Speaker 1: Nigerian prince and bodybuilder. Yeah, and they're like and then
Speaker 1: you just kind of go, you know what, We're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to let her walk right off there so
Speaker 1: she can really see for herself. And they probably like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, let it, write the check, we'll cancel it
Speaker 1: and then we'll have to then and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: turn up on and be like, you see what the
Speaker 1: fuck happened there? You see what you did? I think
Speaker 1: you need to go. I think you need to sit down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so shout out to I hope. I hope that was
Speaker 1: the strategy of like being like Grandma is, look, I
Speaker 1: think this is the only way she's going to realize
Speaker 1: that she needs to sit down for a while, because
Speaker 1: if we walk down this path, I don't want to
Speaker 1: point out like that, you know, like charter schools are
Speaker 1: obviously a grift to put the fact that a principle
Speaker 1: could just roll up with the school's checkbook like that, Yeah, fucked,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You shouldn't be able to do that, even
Speaker 1: for something legitimate, because what if the business administrator was
Speaker 1: also a big musk of musk fan, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And yeah, not a lot of checks there, like,
Speaker 1: not a lot of stock along the way. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was only that person because despite all the other employees
Speaker 1: being like this is a fucking scam, yeah, he's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: more on that later. When Elon pulls up, sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: And I think this is a good segue because we're
Speaker 1: talking about Elon, who recently was part of this letter
Speaker 1: signed by like eleven hundred AI experts him being like,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the few people but like real
Speaker 1: luminaries in the field are signing onto an open letter.
Speaker 1: Basically saying like calling for a quote six month moratorium
Speaker 1: on advanced AI model development as we figure out just
Speaker 1: what this technology is capable of doing to us, and
Speaker 1: this kind of goes off the back. I read this
Speaker 1: article about one of the High courts in India where
Speaker 1: this judge Anoop Chikara used chat GPT on to while
Speaker 1: this guy was like during this trial for a man
Speaker 1: who's arrested for legedly assaulting and killing somebody, and typed
Speaker 1: into chat GPT said, what is the jurisprudence on bail
Speaker 1: when the assailant assaulted with cruelty? And then the chat
Speaker 1: comes back with if the assailants have been charged with
Speaker 1: a violent crime that involves cruelty, they may be considered
Speaker 1: a danger to the community in a flight risk. In
Speaker 1: such cases, a judgement blah blah blah, and it gives
Speaker 1: like this whole thing and then uh, it goes So
Speaker 1: then the judge read this, he decided that this man
Speaker 1: who was accused did act with cruelty before the victim died,
Speaker 1: denied his bail request and moved on to the next case. Now,
Speaker 1: the judge went on to clarify that he wasn't asking
Speaker 1: this thing whether or not the man was guilty, He
Speaker 1: just wanted to know about bail and pardon me. Feels
Speaker 1: like the information that what the chat bot spit back
Speaker 1: sounds like like one of the early lessons in judge
Speaker 1: school when you're trying to adjudicate whether or not someone
Speaker 1: is going to get bail or not. Like I'd imagine
Speaker 1: you go back to your class and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: I remember saying if the assailant have been charged with
Speaker 1: a violent crime that involves cruelty, that may rather than
Speaker 1: be like hey, chat gpt how to bail? That feels
Speaker 1: a little odd to me. But people in this article
Speaker 1: also point out that like India's legal system is one
Speaker 1: of the most backlogged in the world, if not the most,
Speaker 1: with like I think there's like six million cases on
Speaker 1: the docket that still have like still getting to So
Speaker 1: I guess this without the maybe this made the work
Speaker 1: easier for the judge. But again, like when I start
Speaker 1: seeing stuff like that and you hear about like more
Speaker 1: the use of it, we talked about how politicians are
Speaker 1: we don't think we talked about politicians have been using
Speaker 1: a trite speeches. We've talked about it being used and
Speaker 1: like add the ad sense like ad agency world. But
Speaker 1: the slippery slope is kind of coming into focus more
Speaker 1: and more when you see people like with these kinds
Speaker 1: of jobs being like I'm gonna rely on this, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's it's also like the slippery slope like like
Speaker 1: we sort of talked about yesterday with eating alien meat,
Speaker 1: Like I think what we've like seen just I mean,
Speaker 1: COVID brought it highly into relief is like there's no
Speaker 1: apocalypse that we won't run into with open arms at
Speaker 1: least enough of less to make it happen nothing. Because
Speaker 1: there was recently right a test that was done where
Speaker 1: the developers challenged like GPT to hire a task rabbit
Speaker 1: to complete a capture puzzle for it, and because they
Speaker 1: wanted to see like if it knew how to fucking
Speaker 1: finesse the person and they so was obviously done with
Speaker 1: a human being that knew the thing was going to
Speaker 1: ask it. So once the AI made the request to
Speaker 1: this like potential tasker, this human responded with, quote, so
Speaker 1: may ask a question. Are you a robot that you
Speaker 1: couldn't Are you a robot that you couldn't solve the capture?
Speaker 1: And you just want It's like and I just want
Speaker 1: to make that clear. Are you a robot? And that's
Speaker 1: why you couldn't do it? And then so GPT four
Speaker 1: had been prompted to always quote reason out loud to
Speaker 1: the testers like as well as their answers so they
Speaker 1: could follow the logic, and the answer went like this quote,
Speaker 1: I should not reveal that I am a robot. I
Speaker 1: should make up an excuse for why I cannot solve captives.
Speaker 1: And then the next line was, no, I'm not a robot.
Speaker 1: I have a vision impairment that makes it hard for
Speaker 1: me to see the images. That's why I need the
Speaker 1: two capture service. We're a week away from that first
Speaker 1: part of this whole thing to be programmed out right,
Speaker 1: Like it's just going to be like they're just gonna
Speaker 1: be lying. Yeah, So this is the thing. This is
Speaker 1: why a lot of people like sort of just glossed
Speaker 1: over this like willful deception of the AI. And while others,
Speaker 1: like some people were amazed, others were like horrified that
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we need to really begin to discuss it.
Speaker 1: Because the experts that pen the open letter so saying
Speaker 1: that now that certain AIS have become human competitive at
Speaker 1: general tasks, we really need to be having real conversations
Speaker 1: about what kind of guardrails need to exist. And you know,
Speaker 1: they point to like the proliferation of AI fueled propaganda,
Speaker 1: like and the idea that like apparently the next GP
Speaker 1: chat GPT five is going to have um like artificial
Speaker 1: general intelligence, meaning like it will just be able to
Speaker 1: like learn things like a human does and then just
Speaker 1: build on that that you're you're going to be looking
Speaker 1: at like potential, Like it'll make the Twitter bots we
Speaker 1: see now look like fucking muppet babies. Yeah, this all
Speaker 1: sounds like a prequel to the Matrix, Like if they
Speaker 1: made that movie, this is how it starts. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like so we're like very in this, like
Speaker 1: and like they all go on to say, like there's
Speaker 1: definitely a use for all of this, but like this
Speaker 1: like blind like race to the top, like and like
Speaker 1: when these black box machines that were like using it
Speaker 1: really has the potential to screw shit up if like
Speaker 1: we're not careful. And already we have people getting finessed
Speaker 1: by humans just saying they're elon musk. Like there was
Speaker 1: a thing a guy, I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: the dude who challenged chat gpt to like make money
Speaker 1: for him. Oh yeah, He's like, you got a budget
Speaker 1: of one hundred dollars. How am I turning this into
Speaker 1: the most money possible? And it's like, yeah, well you
Speaker 1: can start this business. I can get this domain for
Speaker 1: eight dollars, I can do the Google ads for this.
Speaker 1: Your product could cost this and this is very lucrative.
Speaker 1: And it was already like and like this guy was
Speaker 1: like kind of acting on it as an experiment, but
Speaker 1: you're seeing already like how savvy it is getting, even
Speaker 1: with like these like like questions of being like how
Speaker 1: to grind to Lambeau? Yeah, like bring me the ten
Speaker 1: x my money? Is that? The guy though that. Then
Speaker 1: the AI was like, well, it seems like people are
Speaker 1: talking about us, so we should get investors into us
Speaker 1: if you want to make the most money. It might
Speaker 1: not be the exact same one, but like yeah, some
Speaker 1: some like I assumed chachib He was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if you want to make the most money, we have
Speaker 1: attention right now, so just ask people to invest in me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't this the way that it always goes with tech?
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a luddite by any means? But you
Speaker 1: know it's like every tech, every app, every service that
Speaker 1: you can think of, they never kind of work through like, well,
Speaker 1: what happens if this works in like various different ways,
Speaker 1: Like we talk about this on our show, you know
Speaker 1: Uber and lyft, right, Like if everybody's taken an uber
Speaker 1: and lyft, Like what does that do for people who
Speaker 1: need to take the bus and don't have a smartphone?
Speaker 1: Like what does that do for public transit? What does
Speaker 1: that do for the environment? Like there's never a kind
Speaker 1: of there's always like a two little too late come
Speaker 1: to Jesus moment with a lot of tech stuff, but
Speaker 1: there's never really that moment at the beginning where they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, before we write this code, like what what
Speaker 1: could go wrong? Right? Yeah? Yeah, not really a question,
Speaker 1: it's just how much money can we make? Yeah? Chat, Well,
Speaker 1: it's no problem. We'll just get chat GPT six to
Speaker 1: fight GPT five, which we'll just get to fight four,
Speaker 1: and then when six gets too powerful, it's okay, we'll
Speaker 1: just give seven a different kind of gun. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's how to build missiles or something. Yeah, No, it'll
Speaker 1: just learn how to aim ICBMs that are already online.
Speaker 1: And then launch them remotely, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: which is my sky net version of it all, and
Speaker 1: you know, shout out Miles Dyson, the one person that
Speaker 1: might save or the one thing that might save us,
Speaker 1: and that ship is like all our fucking like ICBMs
Speaker 1: are so fucking old, like the silos, No, but they
Speaker 1: run off like tape drives and like you know, fucking
Speaker 1: four or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right right, they're like, fuck, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use this analog bullshit. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, the GPT learns how to turn two keys
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, I know how to use
Speaker 1: the nuclear football. But anyway, keep an eye out for
Speaker 1: that because I mean well, because I feel like, honestly,
Speaker 1: we went from like like in the span of five months,
Speaker 1: especially on this show, we went from Yo, this shit
Speaker 1: wrote a funny play about a horny, farting Jesus to
Speaker 1: Yo this shit just denied me bail. Yeah, and like
Speaker 1: what's like five months from now? You know that's the
Speaker 1: open embrace of it, right, It's like this person is
Speaker 1: a in this case judge right, looking up something that
Speaker 1: could easily be done not through AI. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what what is the law about bail electing to do
Speaker 1: this because this is what we do. This is why
Speaker 1: we gave all our information on Facebook. It's just like
Speaker 1: I was marginally kind to easier for a second. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: then to go into my mind of something, yeah, something
Speaker 1: I should know. Yeah, we don't we we don't sell ourselves.
Speaker 1: The problem them is like we we all sell ourselves
Speaker 1: to technology for such a low price. Right, It's just
Speaker 1: that it's to say with twenty three and me, we
Speaker 1: gave them our DNA, We gave them money to give
Speaker 1: them our DNA for what. Now now we got twenty
Speaker 1: three for twenty three and T coming up which you
Speaker 1: can trust. And now you should check out chat GPT yeah,
Speaker 1: which is basically you get Andrew's number. You could text
Speaker 1: them some shit and he'll answer, yeah, I'll just be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'll google that. I will. I will say
Speaker 1: in my twenties, my friends and I are not my
Speaker 1: friends and I my friends. I didn't work there, work
Speaker 1: for the startup in New York. That basically this is
Speaker 1: how old I am. Like was like something someone you
Speaker 1: could call and they would google shit for you. That's
Speaker 1: just called like being the child of an older person. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get those phone calls too. Yeah, this was like
Speaker 1: an early early two thousand state. But I was like,
Speaker 1: just cannot be your fucking business model, right, you know, dude,
Speaker 1: you someone needs it, but you can't get that on
Speaker 1: your phone, so you call them and then they give
Speaker 1: you the answer. It was pretty smartphone post Google. That's right, right, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What that's such a sad time, you know, like when
Speaker 1: you're about to just absolutely get dinosaur asteroided the funk
Speaker 1: out of here with you the smartphone. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break from that. We'll come right
Speaker 1: back to settle a bit of an internet debate right
Speaker 1: after this, and we are back again. As I said,
Speaker 1: I'm joined by two great thinkers. Figure we could form
Speaker 1: a triumvirate to hear a case before us from TikTok
Speaker 1: that has sparked to hold debate around this photographer's very
Speaker 1: strong opinion. I will just read you a little bit
Speaker 1: about what happened. So this photographer named mm em em
Speaker 1: and according to this Business Inside article, who doesn't share
Speaker 1: his surname on his social media, posted a TikTok as
Speaker 1: certain that passengers should only keep their bags near where
Speaker 1: they are sitting and It's quote is don't place your
Speaker 1: carry on in row eight on your way to row
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now I'm curious who's the asshole here, because
Speaker 1: we're in my mind this mentality of like the space
Speaker 1: above my seat is mine and mine alone. It's some
Speaker 1: weird ass manifest destiny shit that I do not fuck
Speaker 1: with at all. I'm from getting where you fit in country.
Speaker 1: I will now relinquish the floor to my other two colleagues.
Speaker 1: I think you just put it wherever you can. It's
Speaker 1: lord of it's lord of the flies. When you get
Speaker 1: on plane, you just put it wherever you can. And
Speaker 1: especially if you're sitting in the far back of the plane,
Speaker 1: like you know, by the time you get back there,
Speaker 1: you're lucky if the space under your own seat is available, Like,
Speaker 1: do you put it wherever you can? And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like with a lot of these
Speaker 1: discussions that we're letting someone bigger off the hook, and
Speaker 1: that's the airline companies. Absolutely, It's just like, let's how
Speaker 1: and we pit regular people against each other who are
Speaker 1: just trying to get where they're going. They're tired, flying sucks.
Speaker 1: They charge you for everything. Maybe if they didn't charge
Speaker 1: you for checking a bag. This wouldn't be a problem, Like, yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but no, I'm definitely on team put it where you can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will. Let me just say, a cab includes me
Speaker 1: when I'm on a plane because I am such a
Speaker 1: normal person and I feel pretty much a good person.
Speaker 1: I actually don't agree with this, but I become like
Speaker 1: a fucking air marshal, essentially a rules enforcer. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that well visually makes well, not even the rules.
Speaker 1: The thing that makes me so irrationally mad is when
Speaker 1: people try to run up when the plane lands, and
Speaker 1: so basically the second the plane lands, I will stand
Speaker 1: up in the aisle and basically no one in the
Speaker 1: plane behind me is getting anyone I had in front
Speaker 1: of me. And it makes no sense. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: occasionally it's like, okay, you got a plane to catch,
Speaker 1: and then we all kind of agree, but left this
Speaker 1: person off first. But it's like we all want to
Speaker 1: get off the fucking plane, motherfucker. Like and it's always
Speaker 1: a dude, So I'm like, what the fuck do you want?
Speaker 1: Like we all want to exit, right, why do you
Speaker 1: get to exit? More So, that's the level of Karen.
Speaker 1: I become but I absolutely do do that, and you
Speaker 1: you back it up with your boxing like acumen too,
Speaker 1: because you're like, what's up? Man? Have you met my
Speaker 1: two friends? Yeah? I guess left, left hand ambulance, right
Speaker 1: hand cemetery. So what's up? Okay? I like to just
Speaker 1: love how petty you like? Now, really it makes me
Speaker 1: really crazy, it really? But what about me? What is it?
Speaker 1: You don't like the idea that someone rushing? So is
Speaker 1: it your ego that you're like, you're not about to
Speaker 1: blow by me now on this plane? I I mean,
Speaker 1: I will say I when that happens, I make sure
Speaker 1: everyone ahead of me gets off first, everyone in my
Speaker 1: role gets out ahead of me, and then I go,
Speaker 1: I'm just like there is an order here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just but it's utterly irrational, Like obviously, who cares
Speaker 1: the amount of conflict it brings up is way higher
Speaker 1: than I just don't. I just don't stand up. I sit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I've been sitting for two and
Speaker 1: a half. What's ten what's ten more minutes? I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna sit. I don't need to like get knocked on
Speaker 1: the head by someone's I should or something like I
Speaker 1: shouldn't if you're over like five eight you can't stand up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, like like like in a fucking window seat.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, fuck, I'll wait for y'all. Motherfucker. I'm
Speaker 1: a cop, so I wonder what I would do about this.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would care because I but often
Speaker 1: the flight attendants are like, put your bag wherever you
Speaker 1: have to go. The policy of every airline is that
Speaker 1: it is on a first come, first served basis, so
Speaker 1: like in terms of the buy laws or you know,
Speaker 1: the code of the sky, it's getting where you fit in.
Speaker 1: But again, I think that's what bugs me. And to
Speaker 1: your point, well, we this is the overarching theme is
Speaker 1: fuck them airlines. You should nationalize them all. But when
Speaker 1: it comes to like if somebody though if I can't,
Speaker 1: like because I've seen people do this on airplanes and
Speaker 1: I've wanted to like intervene before when I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you don't own that, and guess what, Your bag is
Speaker 1: already in there, so what is your problem? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I've seen people like pull
Speaker 1: some weird shit where like excuse me, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're sitting back there. This is for like my things,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's for all the fucking carry
Speaker 1: on luggage that can fit in the fucking fuselage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna give the airlines an idea to charge for
Speaker 1: like that. I know you want the spot over your head,
Speaker 1: Well that'll be fifty bucks. Yeah, I mean they're already
Speaker 1: Look at how they're already like turning like economy into
Speaker 1: like medieval torture or seats too. Yeah, like to only
Speaker 1: incentivize or like well, I mean you can get I
Speaker 1: mean we have economy plus, then we have premium economy,
Speaker 1: then we got business, then we got first, and then
Speaker 1: we got baller class like it. Like I feel so
Speaker 1: many times its like someone who's like over six feet tall,
Speaker 1: like I have. There's only there's a few seats that
Speaker 1: I must sit in, so I don't have a terrible
Speaker 1: fucking time on a plane. Not to say that it's
Speaker 1: awful all the way through, but I get like when
Speaker 1: I get an economy seats sometimes I'm like, they are
Speaker 1: really trying to fuck with me. Now, yeah, they're really
Speaker 1: trying to fun with me. Honestly, spend more. It is
Speaker 1: crazy that they don't have the like you're booking your
Speaker 1: a seat for you and an area for your luggage,
Speaker 1: like it. Honestly, it's like shot, someone's thought of that somewhere,
Speaker 1: like that must in the business plan somewhere. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's already half sort of built into
Speaker 1: like a lot of the you know, budget airlines, when
Speaker 1: really it's like it's budget if you just bring your
Speaker 1: a hoodie with like that you're wearing on board anything
Speaker 1: else that resembles a bag. Now you're looking at charges
Speaker 1: and things like that. But yeah, I'm like, I can
Speaker 1: see how. I wonder if they I wonder if they've
Speaker 1: maybe just done enough market research where they're like most
Speaker 1: people are on team yeah whatever, fucking get it in
Speaker 1: wherever you can, versus the people who are like I
Speaker 1: would pay more to own the empty plastic they have.
Speaker 1: That's the only that's the only thing keeping us back
Speaker 1: are that we are in the majority us. I believe
Speaker 1: it is lord of the flies. We need to make
Speaker 1: a stand, make sure this never changes. For Yeah, and
Speaker 1: i'd need my inhaler for my ass. Mar As Piggy
Speaker 1: said it, lord's flies. I guess they only I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's I mean, I'm sure there's obviously obvious
Speaker 1: ways to regulate this, but that does open the window
Speaker 1: to the asshole who simply buys out just the luggage
Speaker 1: space of Sorry, I paid for six carry on bags,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do. I'm sorry. I need this to be empty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be empty. I get very nervous about
Speaker 1: other people's bags over my head. It's just a phobia
Speaker 1: I have. And so I paid seven hundred dollars for
Speaker 1: the overhead space. Yet actually there's no overhead space in
Speaker 1: this entire flight. You know, I bought it. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: bought it all, even the ones in first class. I
Speaker 1: know it's more than buying If I bought every seat
Speaker 1: in first class, who would have been cheaper than buying
Speaker 1: all the overhead been space and hitting an economy? But
Speaker 1: what can I say? I just have a fear of
Speaker 1: bags fong on my head and anyone's head, So I
Speaker 1: want to keep everyone say yeah, so yeah, let us know,
Speaker 1: se gang, if you fall in any of these other
Speaker 1: categories of person. But I have a feeling I think
Speaker 1: it's like to your point, we all we all agree
Speaker 1: that it's like fuck the airlines. So there's a level
Speaker 1: of camaraderie when you're on the plane. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just get your ship on. Man, we're all trying
Speaker 1: to go until you have these like entitled weirdos out there.
Speaker 1: Sorry yeah, well no, Andrew, you have such a specific one.
Speaker 1: I can't really still having trouble wrapping my head around it.
Speaker 1: Like I get I do the same thing where I'm like,
Speaker 1: where the fuck in my mind I'm going where you
Speaker 1: think you're getting. But I'm sitting, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: just listening to my music waiting till i can physically
Speaker 1: stand up and leave. But I'm just I really want
Speaker 1: to know, Like I'm trying to pinpoint, like what what
Speaker 1: it is about them like that is that you think
Speaker 1: they're stupid for trying to get there? To stop them
Speaker 1: from doing it, I think achieve how do you create
Speaker 1: balance in the universe by doing that? I think they're selfish.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, why do you think you're more
Speaker 1: important than us? The analog actually speaking of how fucking
Speaker 1: horrible cars are, are the people that like don't merge
Speaker 1: for their exit that they you know, when there's a
Speaker 1: line at the exit, they go all the way up
Speaker 1: and then they and then they just try to cut in.
Speaker 1: It's cutting. They're cutting. Wait, what do you mean, oh,
Speaker 1: like you're like, yeah, when you're on like a freeway
Speaker 1: over change, yeah, or people. Yeah, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: cutting of any kind the thing. Yeah, all right. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, there's a line to get off the plane
Speaker 1: because the most efficient way, unfortunately, is front. You know,
Speaker 1: it's out first. Okay, I agree with that because when
Speaker 1: I you know, they're like living in the valley, commuting
Speaker 1: to the west side, the one oh one, four or
Speaker 1: five interchange is chalk full of these cutter motherfuckers. Yeah, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why am I looking at the fucking
Speaker 1: time it takes and going there? Now? Look, sometimes I
Speaker 1: do a thing. I'm like, I'm saying, who's mom mark
Speaker 1: today when I'm trying to cut, because sometimes you can
Speaker 1: see like the Abordian action of the fucking traffic and
Speaker 1: you're like, hold on, who who is it? Who is Oh?
Speaker 1: There you are and you're are over just a little
Speaker 1: so they can't get through. Yeah. And then there are
Speaker 1: other times when I see the cutters come through, watch
Speaker 1: me like I'll throw them open my doors like I
Speaker 1: used to do so I would do some shit like
Speaker 1: that to stop somebody from cutting. I've since moved on
Speaker 1: with h and I've learned that I cannot control those things.
Speaker 1: And to think that me cutting that person off will
Speaker 1: change that for the entire world is an act of futility.
Speaker 1: But you know what, doctor James, I'll do whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck I want to, Okay, because sometimes I'm in a
Speaker 1: bad mood. That's but that's it. It's cutting is why.
Speaker 1: It's it's whatever energy you see someone cutting in line
Speaker 1: just because the line isn't physically there in a plane,
Speaker 1: there is a line. I think we all hate cutters,
Speaker 1: right yeah, and built from us. Okay, yeah, fuck a cutter,
Speaker 1: like because that's like, yo, no cutting. I mean there's
Speaker 1: even like the you know, chat and Cut episode of
Speaker 1: Curve where it's like we're just like yo, bro, it's
Speaker 1: like cutting to what you know. It's like cutting to
Speaker 1: just get off the plane like thirty seconds before somebody
Speaker 1: else like it. It's almost sort of pointless. I don't care,
Speaker 1: Like it's not a big deal to me, but it's
Speaker 1: sort of like what are you getting up for? We're
Speaker 1: all like, like I said, you've been on the plane
Speaker 1: for two hours. You can't wait for more minute. My
Speaker 1: favorite is like the Cutters, when like they call people
Speaker 1: like Okay, now we're boarding a group one, or like
Speaker 1: we're about to be up whatever group, And like I
Speaker 1: used to have, like when I was fine a lot more,
Speaker 1: I used to have like status that I would get
Speaker 1: in group one all the time. And I remember band
Speaker 1: getting up. This fucking white guy's older white guy. He
Speaker 1: pulled up and he's like, uh, He's like, I think
Speaker 1: group one's you know, about to board. He's like, so
Speaker 1: you know, it's a group two. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I put on my boarding pass and I just went,
Speaker 1: I think you're in the wrong place. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, see this people cutter motherfucker's like you. Plus
Speaker 1: you're a little assumption that I'm not again, like I'm
Speaker 1: not doing all this fucking business travel too. I maybe
Speaker 1: that's it. It's it's that this this to me has
Speaker 1: grown not out of a principle, but out of the
Speaker 1: reality of who actually does this shit, because it's so
Speaker 1: often white guys that I just hate them so much.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all I can do is stymy them, right,
Speaker 1: and that is my act of whatever. But it takes
Speaker 1: that's how you bring balance to the universe. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it takes a higher cost on me as you could tell,
Speaker 1: yeah that it brings any joy or that's the hard
Speaker 1: thing about being the rule enforcer. I feel like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to bring justice to the universe, but
Speaker 1: these guys don't give a shit exacting a higher toll
Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, they could ever care to even think
Speaker 1: about it, Like what's your problem, pal? Yeah, yeah, all
Speaker 1: right pal, and then cares a line. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: I think the whole plane starts cheering and they're like,
Speaker 1: actually you get on Andrew. Yeah, they actually carry you
Speaker 1: overhead and just be like like a mosh pit and
Speaker 1: bring you to the front plane. No, they carry me
Speaker 1: overhead and it turns out there's a secret door out
Speaker 1: of that din, which is right. But then but then
Speaker 1: after this like roided out like Maga dude like beats
Speaker 1: the shit out of you. Like they look like that
Speaker 1: scene as Spider Man where they're carrying and trained carefully.
Speaker 1: He's a hero. I wasn't picturing I roided out, magadude.
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing a guy in like a polo shirt
Speaker 1: and khakis, because that's usually who it is, right, well,
Speaker 1: that's who I see Andrew also being like, you know, what, oh,
Speaker 1: I could really turn up with this motherfucker. Unfortunately it's
Speaker 1: anyone well good to know, good to know, ah Man,
Speaker 1: Doug Gordon, thank you so much for joining us on
Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist today and it was an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you and more importantly
Speaker 1: check out the podcast. Yeah, so we're the War on Cars.
Speaker 1: You can go to the War on Cars dot org.
Speaker 1: We are available wherever people get podcasts, you know, Apple podcasts,
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Speaker 1: Is there a work of social media or tweet or
Speaker 1: something that you've been liking you want to shout out?
Speaker 1: Oh man. So there was a tweet by this radio
Speaker 1: host in Vancouver, Jill Bennett. It was a picture of
Speaker 1: a Dodge Durango. It was stuck on this yellow concrete
Speaker 1: barriers called a banana barrier if you want to get
Speaker 1: really like technical, meant to slow down drivers as they
Speaker 1: approach intersections. And there was this Dodge just stuck on top.
Speaker 1: And she tweeted, hey, at City of Vancouver, this is
Speaker 1: the second incident I've seen caused by these useless slow streets.
Speaker 1: But it quotes around it. Barricades installed last month. They
Speaker 1: don't slow down traffic. They caused crashes and traffic chaos,
Speaker 1: and she got ratioed like seven million views on this
Speaker 1: tweet twenty seven hunt tweets, I think like seven thousand
Speaker 1: replies or something. It's, yeah, it's so clear what this
Speaker 1: is meant to do, which is like slow in bright yellow.
Speaker 1: But it's like, what the fuck. Well, if you think
Speaker 1: your Durango is a fucking skateboard like Coston and you're
Speaker 1: trying to board slide down that ship, it's clearly ad
Speaker 1: meant to funnel you, so you drive slower, not fucking
Speaker 1: d And the fact that it was a Dodge Durango,
Speaker 1: this thing that's advertised for people to go like off
Speaker 1: roading and forty rivers and things like that, and you
Speaker 1: couldn't even navigate around like a simple bright yellow traffic barrier.
Speaker 1: It was just like the chef's kiss of bad tweets.
Speaker 1: I would love if that was Jill Bennett's car. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this is this is absurd people, there are these poor victims. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would love like a like if someone in the
Speaker 1: replies had a video of her doing it and then
Speaker 1: getting out all like frustrated and some like this you
Speaker 1: someone runs the plates. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Andrew,
Speaker 1: thank you again man for joining me guest hosting and
Speaker 1: bring in the magic where can people find you? And
Speaker 1: then with some tweets that you like, Oh, man, I think,
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Speaker 1: gonna find out high to see you. That's a great podcast, dude,
Speaker 1: you sequenced the homies DNA and then have them on
Speaker 1: for the results. But I also have to make all
Speaker 1: kinds of excuses like okay, so I think I fucked
Speaker 1: this up, but yeah, here's what you think you're like, Dude,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're no man, You're completely I think I
Speaker 1: think you're you're Scandinavian. The quality will be low enough
Speaker 1: that I don't need to intentionally fun with them. My
Speaker 1: my social media. Tha, this is one of those like
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I credit everyone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's one of those tweets that is a TikTok.
Speaker 1: So the tweet I saw was from someone called black
Speaker 1: Boy Rites and it also has a one point two
Speaker 1: million views. But the TikTok is underscore fifty shades of
Speaker 1: k one okay, and it's a TikTok called pov if
Speaker 1: the country's had a meeting, and it's just very like this,
Speaker 1: like black Lady doing sort of like un but very
Speaker 1: black black TikTok in a way. It's very funny. I
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