Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes, goodness, lost culture is just calling.
Speaker 1: You are joining us in progress. We are currently having
Speaker 1: our conversation about how Bowen is Natalie and I'm Mila.
Speaker 1: I mean we were saying, you know, I'm rolling. We
Speaker 1: were telling our beautiful sound engineer dog hot, bracingly hot,
Speaker 1: bracingly hot. You brace yourself. You have to sort of
Speaker 1: grab what's around you, as if you know your vehicle
Speaker 1: is about to crash. That's how HOTTI is. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then I said I'm rolling, And then Matt fully seamlessly
Speaker 1: went into the you've never rolled. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: like meeting the night Sky. Wait where we went up
Speaker 1: be getting the exact quote, right, Let's say it's this
Speaker 1: so you can see the nights Guy. I don't know
Speaker 1: exactly what she says, but something about the nights guy.
Speaker 1: But reader, and I'm sure you can feel it in
Speaker 1: your audio experience. But I was like, Matt, you are
Speaker 1: such a Mela. It's crazy how you're a Mela. And
Speaker 1: I'm not in the Natalie Mela binary, which is already
Speaker 1: your front runner of the title of EPP. I'm very
Speaker 1: much the Mela and you are Natalie and I I
Speaker 1: My on screen boyfriend is Ashton cut your years is
Speaker 1: Justin timber Like that also, that also makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: It makes a hundred percent sense because listen, gun into
Speaker 1: your head, and this is sort of us finally answering
Speaker 1: the question of no strings attached versus friends with benefits.
Speaker 1: Right gun to your head. You can fuck Ashton and
Speaker 1: be his friend with benefit, or you can have a
Speaker 1: no strings attached situation with Justin nimber Like. Even though
Speaker 1: those film titles are switched, what do you choose no
Speaker 1: strings attached featuring Natalie apartment and Ashton cuture because there's
Speaker 1: creditor away a guy Brandon meet Min de Kaling as
Speaker 1: kind of stars, so you're sort of picking the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about carnal desire. I'm saying, do you suck
Speaker 1: Ashton or do you suck Justin Timberlake Ashton? And I
Speaker 1: know your answer is actually Ashton once and for all,
Speaker 1: because we've talked about on this podcast how Justin the
Speaker 1: stock really plummeted after a certain age. Listen, sometimes with sex,
Speaker 1: this is actually was a rotal culture. I'll get to it.
Speaker 1: But sometimes with sex it doesn't even matter, like, I
Speaker 1: think that in my head I would rather have sex
Speaker 1: with Justin Timberlake. I think it will be better than
Speaker 1: sex with Ashton Kutcher. I mean, the only person who
Speaker 1: might who is the closest to knowing that would be
Speaker 1: Mela Cunas. I think for simulating sex on screen with
Speaker 1: Justin and for actually having sex, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wonder. I feel like she picked, she made she
Speaker 1: made her choice, and she made her choice. Oh, you're
Speaker 1: you're saying there's there's definitely people out there. We've had
Speaker 1: sex with both of them. Absolutely Well, No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about Mila and Justin. I'm just saying things happen
Speaker 1: on the set. In fact, I was thinking about this.
Speaker 1: I was like, if you're doing a sex scene with
Speaker 1: someone and it's like pretty much the whole movie, you
Speaker 1: probably just fuck him, right, I mean, if it's consensual
Speaker 1: and everyone's good with it. I don't know, how can
Speaker 1: I tell you something? You can tell me anything. I
Speaker 1: am being put in the position of having a romantic
Speaker 1: interest in in a fictional setting and in a in
Speaker 1: a sitting, you know, in a controlled environment such as
Speaker 1: a movie set, and I think and it's really it's
Speaker 1: I think it's my first real experience with it, and
Speaker 1: I think and the lines do get very blurry, even
Speaker 1: though the boundaries are very very very clear to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, but it's so strange to like shift
Speaker 1: gears between realities and that is very very disorientating. And
Speaker 1: I understand why you got Miila and Ashton together. Why
Speaker 1: benefits as an enduring thing? Why you know, why is
Speaker 1: Endemoelina Brangelina? Why is in day dates all of her
Speaker 1: you know, romantic interests. And I'm like, I really, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't relate to them really, but I think it
Speaker 1: makes more sense to me the more time goes on.
Speaker 1: Look as someone who's being put in a similar situation,
Speaker 1: I also can confirm the lines do blur and it's fun, okay.
Speaker 1: And also, chemistry is hard to come by. Chemistry is
Speaker 1: not just something that just that just walks along. And
Speaker 1: also tone, I know it and so listen, all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is and it's sort of it's sort of comes
Speaker 1: back around to a discussion we once had about you know,
Speaker 1: we're also dealing with actors who famously, you know, they
Speaker 1: they have like their little moments of narcissism, and when
Speaker 1: shines their light on you, it's easy to you know,
Speaker 1: be susceptible to that, and there's something romantic about it.
Speaker 1: I thought about that idea a lot ever since one
Speaker 1: miss Busy Phillips introduced that concept into the discussion between us.
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never thought, I told my I
Speaker 1: told the guy who cuts my hair that says, like,
Speaker 1: you know, someone recently told me Busy Phillips, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know what narcissism means in this context. He was like,
Speaker 1: that makes so much sense totally, because really what it
Speaker 1: is is nar desists want external validation of what they
Speaker 1: are pretty sure it's true internally, which is that they're
Speaker 1: the best, and so they'll go to extreme length. I've
Speaker 1: thought about this a lot too since Busy said that,
Speaker 1: aren't and and like and like and t v H.
Speaker 1: I've had to self examine and be like, have I
Speaker 1: done that? And I feel like, to some degree in
Speaker 1: some instances, I've done that. Every now and then absolutely
Speaker 1: I'm agreeing that you have probably no no, no, but yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think it's also like, you know, when when
Speaker 1: you want someone to like you like you do the most,
Speaker 1: you go for it as in the words and the
Speaker 1: words of control. We go for it, go for it.
Speaker 1: And I would say, I told you my New Housewives tagline, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. Tell me to telerators from the coast
Speaker 1: to the coast. I'll be doing the most. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you have not told me that one. Oh, what's
Speaker 1: the one I told you? I mean, I've I've found
Speaker 1: it so funny I broadcasted to the world on my
Speaker 1: story is which is over text you Housewives tagline I'm
Speaker 1: looking for a husband plural. I'm looking for a husband plural.
Speaker 1: And that's of course I also have one. I have
Speaker 1: another one, which is um, I'm a triple threat. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: I'm really good. I really famously have never had one,
Speaker 1: will never find one. I'm too scared to find one. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what yours. No, No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this. I don't want to do this. I
Speaker 1: feel like I had one time last summer, um when
Speaker 1: I was hanging out with you and Joel. I remember
Speaker 1: coming up with one that I was really happy with
Speaker 1: and then it just fully escaped me. And that I
Speaker 1: have a good one for you. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to give you can't give it to me? Yes, I
Speaker 1: can you think that You think that housewives don't get
Speaker 1: pitched taglines. You think they all are in a writer's
Speaker 1: room doing that a creative person. I want to come
Speaker 1: up with it on my own. But but I'll hear
Speaker 1: a pitch. What what is that? Here's my pitch for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: live from New York, it's me everywhere, everywhere, all the time,
Speaker 1: or or live from New York, it's me all over
Speaker 1: the world. It's really good, really good because it has
Speaker 1: to be. And this is this is what I love. Well.
Speaker 1: The rubric is interception between smart and stupid. And that
Speaker 1: is and that is what you that that is your
Speaker 1: that is where you shine. There's really no one better
Speaker 1: who doesn't I really, I really, I really truly believe that.
Speaker 1: Can we just get just can we just um talk
Speaker 1: about what's happening? You know, me and Matt are oh yeah, yeah, ill,
Speaker 1: well it's not and and just in the boring way
Speaker 1: of delayed gate like late wave gay cold, like like
Speaker 1: long gay cold. You say long COVID persistent cold, persistent
Speaker 1: persistent cough. And the tests keep coming back. The COVID
Speaker 1: tests keep coming back negative neg neg net. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just keep rolling in negative. But I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but for me, it's been like two months
Speaker 1: almost oh no. And I thought I was in the
Speaker 1: clear last week and then weirdly enough, I get this
Speaker 1: bizarre cold again and it's a productive card. Sorry, so
Speaker 1: that means not COVID. And also I keep getting COVID tests.
Speaker 1: I did go to the doctor today, and I also
Speaker 1: want to say shout out to the Dock because he's
Speaker 1: a listener. And I went to the doctor today and
Speaker 1: he did say, oh, yeah, we've been seeing a lot
Speaker 1: and his eyes widened of those in terms of positive
Speaker 1: COVID cases of the vaccinated. So I guess my whole
Speaker 1: thing is just like I don't know. I know everyone
Speaker 1: was annoyed about the masks indoors, but like I'm like
Speaker 1: hosting shows again, I'm doing things. But then it's also
Speaker 1: like you can't be testing positive and then work like
Speaker 1: I'm about to do a job, and so now I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of like, am I quarantining again? You've got
Speaker 1: big things on the schedule, bo, We've got big things
Speaker 1: on the schedule now, And I gotta I gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: I gotta be careful. Well, should we tell the readers
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Sure, we're going to see Gaga and Tony.
Speaker 1: We're seeing Gaga and Tony. We're gonna wear masks the
Speaker 1: whole time now at very a city. That's that that
Speaker 1: that is what we can you and I can agree upon.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I wasn't sure how you were feeling about that,
Speaker 1: because I was like, because, can I be totally honest
Speaker 1: with you? My default mode going in was I'm not
Speaker 1: going to wear a mask. Yeah, but as students. But
Speaker 1: you and I checked in earlier today and you were like,
Speaker 1: I know we're going and I'm gonna wear a mask
Speaker 1: the whole time. It was like, of course, and I
Speaker 1: will do the same. Well. I think that everyone should
Speaker 1: make their own decision. I think if you're comfortable being
Speaker 1: there and like like in New York, is not mandating
Speaker 1: mess indoors, Like, let's just say this without saying too much.
Speaker 1: I think you have less to lose than I do.
Speaker 1: Like I think, true, no, if I test positive, I'm
Speaker 1: going to lose a job that you will not lose.
Speaker 1: So I think like for me, it's just like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go extra careful and don't feel the need to
Speaker 1: wear the mask because of me. The only reason I'm
Speaker 1: even going is because feel No, it's not I'm not
Speaker 1: wearing the mask. I hate that it took you to
Speaker 1: get me to wear the mask, but I feel like, um,
Speaker 1: it is the right thing to do in that situation.
Speaker 1: I think that if I'm if I'm just basing it
Speaker 1: based on what I'm seeing and how I'm feeling, Like,
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal for me to wear wear
Speaker 1: a mask inside at an event like this. We've all
Speaker 1: we've all done it. We've all worn a mask for
Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours. Yes, So the outrage about
Speaker 1: wearing masks again, I don't really get because it's like,
Speaker 1: you can see that pick cases are going up, Why
Speaker 1: don't we just like take take the extra step, like
Speaker 1: we've done it for this long, we can do it
Speaker 1: for a little bit longer. Because I don't know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm still optimistic about the whole thing, Like, I know
Speaker 1: it's awful that cases are going up, but I genuinely
Speaker 1: feel like this will get more people vaccinated because they'll
Speaker 1: see the severity of the situation. I'm an optimist like
Speaker 1: that perhaps um too much so, but I just could
Speaker 1: not imagine not going to this because it's gonna be history.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be history. I mean, it's likely Tony Bennett's
Speaker 1: last one, last time. It's it's it's it's a little
Speaker 1: self awarely sad. It's sad. It's sad, and you know,
Speaker 1: and Tony Bennett what an icon, I mean, like one
Speaker 1: of the few like can you can you can we
Speaker 1: actually say, I know we're biased because we love Gaga,
Speaker 1: but in hindsight, cheek to cheek is like what a
Speaker 1: what a fucking amazing thing that Gaga did and they
Speaker 1: both did, but like a create a lot of perceived
Speaker 1: wild career move from Gaga back then that everyone was like,
Speaker 1: what what the funk is she doing? But it's like,
Speaker 1: I think it is very well and it like it
Speaker 1: really puts Gaga and like this crazy and this different
Speaker 1: you know Echalon as a performer. This is pre Star
Speaker 1: is Born, mind you and now like in the post
Speaker 1: Stars Born sort of you know, stretch of Gaga's career,
Speaker 1: it's like it all made sense, all of it, all
Speaker 1: of it's still made all, all of it holds up
Speaker 1: on an artistic level. And I just I just think
Speaker 1: it's really special. And you know that I was blasting
Speaker 1: cheek to cheek when it came out. I was singing
Speaker 1: Gaga's version of Bang Bang my Baby Shot Me Down,
Speaker 1: and behold, it's really when when Bow and Yang sings
Speaker 1: bang Bang my Baby Shot Me Down version, the Gaga
Speaker 1: version with Henry Koperski accompanying, I mean, it's truly. I
Speaker 1: feel bad for everyone that hasn't seen it, but I will,
Speaker 1: I will, I will say this. And you were really
Speaker 1: doing this, doing the rounds with it too. There for
Speaker 1: a while, I was like, when I got to the piano,
Speaker 1: we were all like already waiting for it to happen.
Speaker 1: I never could figure out, like and I when when
Speaker 1: Henry was doing that, I could. I never could figure
Speaker 1: out like an iconic song because you had a lot,
Speaker 1: because you had a lot of great you you succeeded
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Do you know what song
Speaker 1: I loved doing was Foolish Games by Jewel because I
Speaker 1: like to bring the drama. You need something dramatic, m
Speaker 1: hm um. But anyway, just circling back to um, cheek
Speaker 1: the cheek, I think like it was it was even more.
Speaker 1: I think in doing that, she shocked everyone and surprised
Speaker 1: everyone more than anything she could have done on art pop.
Speaker 1: Like in terms of the content of art pop, it
Speaker 1: was like we were prepared for a song called like swine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we were prepared for all
Speaker 1: of it. Like you could even say, like it wasn't
Speaker 1: like I when I heard she like like got vomited
Speaker 1: on or whatever during the promo, was like, that didn't
Speaker 1: surprise me as much as her doing an entire like
Speaker 1: standards album with Tony Bennett. I was like, Wow, what
Speaker 1: an interesting move, what an interesting musical flex. And then
Speaker 1: I think that really set the tone for her being
Speaker 1: this like you know, new queen of reinvention in the
Speaker 1: way that she is, and it just showed that there
Speaker 1: were so many like hands that she hadn't like shown yet,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I still think she's got tricks,
Speaker 1: I really do. I one thousand percent agree. I feel
Speaker 1: like she's never She's never going to be someone that
Speaker 1: people aren't going to be interested in with what she's doing.
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I used to say that about her
Speaker 1: when I wasn't like a Gaga stand which I really
Speaker 1: am now, like and especially I don't know I've said
Speaker 1: this before on this podcast, but I do believe it's true.
Speaker 1: Like I think for people that are still having problems
Speaker 1: with their identity, Gaga is tough. Like I think people
Speaker 1: that like um, people that don't love themselves don't love Gaga.
Speaker 1: And then when you're really ready to love yourself, you're
Speaker 1: ready to come out and say how much you love
Speaker 1: Gaga because you do. I don't disagree. I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: I think that's a huge statement, but I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: I think if you don't love Gaga, don't love yourself.
Speaker 1: And as a rule of culture, a number one if
Speaker 1: you don't love you, don't don't love yourself, because love
Speaker 1: and hate our binary. If you don't love yourself, then
Speaker 1: you hate yourself. Yeah, if you hate Gaga, you hate yourself. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I remember when she came out with like um, like
Speaker 1: I was remember like when Applause and Roar came out
Speaker 1: like truly with him Act, and I was on the
Speaker 1: other side, I was like, it's Gaga. Meanwhile, now it's like,
Speaker 1: in retrospect, we can appreciate that, like Roar is a
Speaker 1: good pop song, but but Applause is like a statement.
Speaker 1: Applause is art, applause is art pop. That whole albums
Speaker 1: that whole album. No, Okay, So everyone now, of course
Speaker 1: it is like, oh my god, justice for art pop,
Speaker 1: which I love. I embrace this movement, but everyone needs
Speaker 1: to really read up on the promo period cycle of
Speaker 1: that album, which was chaotic. But also that was the point.
Speaker 1: It was her at the fucking it was that swine Fest,
Speaker 1: which is the iTunes music festival, where she you know,
Speaker 1: kind of wet nuts, and then sat by Southwestern was
Speaker 1: where she she was vomited it on, and then she
Speaker 1: did the keynote and in a trash bag in great
Speaker 1: dreads and talked about how the music industry is broken
Speaker 1: and how record labels were evil, and then and then
Speaker 1: and you rewind, you rewind, and you go back to
Speaker 1: her doing all the Marina Abrama Vick stuff, like like
Speaker 1: the video of her like doing the Upstate Retreat where
Speaker 1: she's like her tits are out and she's wearing like
Speaker 1: like a blindfold with cones coming on the eyes, and
Speaker 1: then it's just her and then it cuts to her
Speaker 1: lying down on the floor inside some building and she goes,
Speaker 1: you know, she went, she spent like a whole week
Speaker 1: like off the grid with Marina, like doing this whole
Speaker 1: artistic retreat, and like she's committed to this idea of
Speaker 1: art pop and it's so powerful and it's it's really
Speaker 1: it's it's it's something that when she's like, you know
Speaker 1: what I appreciated when she came out as a helicopter. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was like, she came out and she said, I'm
Speaker 1: the first human helicopter and she barely lifted off the ground.
Speaker 1: And honestly, at the time, I was like, this person
Speaker 1: has completely off their rock or flop. But looking back,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, every moment of this was art pop.
Speaker 1: It was perfect. It was the artist as pop art.
Speaker 1: It was it was it was speaking to each other
Speaker 1: in a way that yes, you could barely understand it,
Speaker 1: but that is the point that it was or scotch
Speaker 1: and then she could be anything wor shack could be
Speaker 1: pronounced anyway. Yeah, you know what, You're right, I am
Speaker 1: art pop, you are art poppy, you are the coons
Speaker 1: as you And then her speaking of which working with
Speaker 1: Jeff like that was such a crazy move and like
Speaker 1: Jeff Counts is very controversial, but like she like was
Speaker 1: fully committed to that idea of like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a Jeff Coon sculpture made made for me with
Speaker 1: the blue orb and like it's just all of it
Speaker 1: was so I don't know. I just I you you
Speaker 1: everyone knows how I feel about Gaga. I just had
Speaker 1: my Born this Way Tent anniversary shirt coming the mail
Speaker 1: that I ordered like two months ago. I just I
Speaker 1: will always love her and I'm so excited to see
Speaker 1: her with my sister. It's gonna be hope, don't get
Speaker 1: cod And that's but I think if I get it
Speaker 1: from like Gaga somehow, that's actually fine. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: like the cheek to cheek out of art pop makes
Speaker 1: perfect sense to me because then she was fully committed
Speaker 1: to that and then she stars Born makes total sense too. Well,
Speaker 1: there was Joanne first, right, oh no, I'm but I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it was chicken to Joanne. It it actually makes
Speaker 1: even more sense because you get the sense that it's
Speaker 1: like all barreling towards something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And like there was that like country nous of a
Speaker 1: Star is Born, which felt informed by Joanne, Like and
Speaker 1: I don't know, people hate on Joanne, but I love Joanne, Oh,
Speaker 1: I listened to prayer, How dare you? I just feel like,
Speaker 1: if you, if you're a Gaga fan, if you're a
Speaker 1: little monster, and you're like, but we all don't, but
Speaker 1: but we all know Joanne, dot dot dot shut out,
Speaker 1: keep you shut up, shut keep your mouth shut, and
Speaker 1: go watch the John Wayne video, which is the spiritstual
Speaker 1: success or to Telephone in Paparazzi. It is the third
Speaker 1: installment of the Jonahs Soccerlan directed Gaga music videos. I
Speaker 1: believe I love when she's riding, when she's riding on
Speaker 1: that horse and she hits that tree branch. To me,
Speaker 1: that's comedy. Oh, it's pure comedy. She's a zombie in
Speaker 1: that music here. She's not a zombie in any other
Speaker 1: music video. It's it's really incredible. That is that is
Speaker 1: christ like and that is still a Catholic imagery. This
Speaker 1: girl is amazing. I love that girl. Amazing, this girl,
Speaker 1: this girl's amazing. And the words of Gwen Stefani to
Speaker 1: Celine Dione, I love this girl. I love this girl.
Speaker 1: I love this girl right here. This girl is crazy.
Speaker 1: Love this girl. I love this girl. By the way,
Speaker 1: congrats on the wedding. Blake and Gwen Blake and Gwen, congrats,
Speaker 1: congrats on the big wedding. What did you see that?
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Blake, did you see the
Speaker 1: promos with Ariana? Promo of Ariana shooting the voice promo,
Speaker 1: she wrote a very emotional post about how yeah, she's
Speaker 1: like so excited to do it, and she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: already thinking about the people I have to say goodbye
Speaker 1: to when we haven't even started doing anything, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this girl is into it. I'm excited. You know that
Speaker 1: she is that girl because here's the thing about Arianna Florida.
Speaker 1: She's Florida. She's a Disney gay bitch. Ariana Grannie is
Speaker 1: a Disney gay. It's real culture number seventy one, a
Speaker 1: Disney gay. I have tea about Ariana that she goes
Speaker 1: to Disneyland a lot. I've heard. I've heard this tea
Speaker 1: that she will sometimes just when she one time, she
Speaker 1: like it was like eleven PM and she was like,
Speaker 1: I want to go to Space Mountain. I want to
Speaker 1: go on not to Disneyland. I want to go on
Speaker 1: Space Mountain. And then like like she got driven with
Speaker 1: like you know her you know, seven rings friends or whatever.
Speaker 1: To go to Space Mountain. They wrote it once and
Speaker 1: then they left, and I'm like, that's amazing. I believe
Speaker 1: that some version is of that is true on a deep,
Speaker 1: deep level, like I I don't know, like when I
Speaker 1: see her in Frankie Grande and when I know like
Speaker 1: the Florida nous of it all, and when I know
Speaker 1: that she was a Broadway girl, and when I really
Speaker 1: like think about who she is, I'm like, this girl
Speaker 1: is a Disney gay, and so some it's something about
Speaker 1: Disney gays and there's the science to this. But when
Speaker 1: the voice came out and you got to hit a
Speaker 1: button and the chair would turn. When you hear a
Speaker 1: good singer, she of course wants to hit a button
Speaker 1: and have a chair turn. She was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this reminds me of the Haunted Mansion. Like literally literally
Speaker 1: she she watched that show. And I bet Ariana was
Speaker 1: like an American Idol fan when she was little, So
Speaker 1: you know she's probably gagged about Kelly. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking about like her best friend was Demielvado or like
Speaker 1: they were they were really close. Demielvado stands Kelly. So
Speaker 1: all these young singers like Stan Kelly from when she
Speaker 1: was on American Idol because she was the one like
Speaker 1: for for like suburban girls who were watching American Idol,
Speaker 1: like Kelly is a thing, Kelly is a thing, and
Speaker 1: you and the little shots of the promo you could
Speaker 1: see like Ari really gravitating towards Kelly on the side
Speaker 1: of Demi. Can we just really appreciate I need to
Speaker 1: go back and watch this foot the footage of when
Speaker 1: Demi was X on X Factor with Brittany, like they like,
Speaker 1: we really have to give credit to Demi putting themselves
Speaker 1: in that position when like most of America would have
Speaker 1: been like, who the fund is that girl? Like back
Speaker 1: to that, you know, so it's like that so like
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like Demi has always as another person
Speaker 1: who has always made really interesting career choices. They don't
Speaker 1: always work in the way that we are used to
Speaker 1: like the pop people, the pop the pop gals. Let's
Speaker 1: just say like for for um, for semantic sake, group
Speaker 1: for groupings sake, um uh. This is not to race
Speaker 1: their gender, but anyway, I just I feel like Demi
Speaker 1: is someone who has has always been interesting and we've
Speaker 1: talked about Demi a lot um, but the Demi in
Speaker 1: the X Factor days. I'm like, why need to go
Speaker 1: back and watch them in that because they were doing
Speaker 1: something really um, I don't know, cool and different. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like, well what what it was was. They
Speaker 1: were on with Britney Spears. So I believe that what
Speaker 1: happened was and this is sort of the the way
Speaker 1: that they Brittany, it was something that Jamie made her do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was just, you know, they thought they
Speaker 1: were going to get something they weren't going to get,
Speaker 1: which is Brittany on a show like that. She she
Speaker 1: doesn't have a big personality, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: She's not going to hit you with like a big
Speaker 1: um like uh sound bite. But Demi did actually, and
Speaker 1: if you watch the old interviews, they were the ones
Speaker 1: that did a lot of the press with Simon because
Speaker 1: they had a relationship with Simon that was very they
Speaker 1: would they would and so if you actually go back
Speaker 1: and watch a lot of the press around X Factor
Speaker 1: at the time, it's almost like they realized with Brittany
Speaker 1: they weren't going to get like this relationship like this
Speaker 1: Paula Abdul type relationship with Simon and Demi was there.
Speaker 1: I think knowing the assignment, and I think that Demi
Speaker 1: is Demi is very smart and funny, and not that
Speaker 1: Brittany isn't. But Brittany at that stage, I think was
Speaker 1: just a different vibe. And I think, like if you
Speaker 1: watch like Judges Houses, which I have, like she's very
Speaker 1: concerned about like, um, you know, she gets to sign
Speaker 1: the young kids, she gets to sign the under six
Speaker 1: names or whatever. No, Brittany, Brittany, And I think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's interesting because and you know, obviously
Speaker 1: that was a very staged and produced show, maybe the
Speaker 1: most out of all of them. But Brittany wasn't giving
Speaker 1: big personality the way that Demi was. And I think
Speaker 1: that it's interesting because that's obviously not what they thought
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 1: like l A, Reid and Demi on the one side
Speaker 1: of the table and then it was Brittany and Simon.
Speaker 1: I think that they hoped that Britney Spears would bring
Speaker 1: this big outside like Christina Aguilera on the voice personality,
Speaker 1: but that's just not who she is. No, totally totally
Speaker 1: you know, who were too when when it when it
Speaker 1: swung so far the other way when it so that
Speaker 1: it failed was with Maria Niki and I actually went
Speaker 1: back and watched there's okay, So so man, I have
Speaker 1: this friend from college named Colin Cordo Posty and then
Speaker 1: this is so indelibly burned into me. But that season
Speaker 1: of Idol, when it was like all you heard was
Speaker 1: Maria Nicki fighting, fighting, fighting during the auditions when they
Speaker 1: were in New York, there's a moment where um Maria,
Speaker 1: like you know, like HMU is coming into like just
Speaker 1: do last looks on marian Nicki and then Maria just
Speaker 1: kind of and it's like it's like sort of like
Speaker 1: a they didn't know the cameras were rolling. It's like
Speaker 1: a little bit bit of a BTF PTS moment in
Speaker 1: Maria goes, I really wanted these three pounds, and then
Speaker 1: Nicki goes, I know how you can. And then Maria
Speaker 1: goes like Mariah rolls arise and goes, it's a quote
Speaker 1: from mean Girls. If you knew me and girls, then
Speaker 1: even know. And then and then nick even it goes
Speaker 1: and this is something Colin quarter Posse and I quote
Speaker 1: all the time. She goes, I do not means girls
Speaker 1: means girl. She goes, I do not means girls. It's
Speaker 1: just I don't know, it's just dumb inside joke. But
Speaker 1: I remember that the other like last week, and I
Speaker 1: found that clip on YouTube, snipped it, cut it, trimmed it,
Speaker 1: sent it to Colin just out of with no context,
Speaker 1: and he knew exactly what I meant. And but Nicki
Speaker 1: and Mariah was just ugly. It was ugly the whole
Speaker 1: It wasn't that fun the whole time, except the situation
Speaker 1: that you just described is why it was bad casting,
Speaker 1: because you cannot have those two on the panel at
Speaker 1: the same time because there is such as having too
Speaker 1: many stars. And Nicki Minaj, wherever she goes is going
Speaker 1: to be the star, and Mariah, wherever she goes is
Speaker 1: going to be the star. So when Mariah is sitting
Speaker 1: there and she says a line from Mean Girls, that
Speaker 1: is Mariah's moment. I don't understand though. But but when
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj is there, you have to also allow for
Speaker 1: any moment to be her moment. So it was just
Speaker 1: not good. And I would say I do know who
Speaker 1: won that season because her name was Candas Clever. She
Speaker 1: was like an amazing singer. But if I'm a contestant
Speaker 1: on that season. I'm pissed because the whole thing became
Speaker 1: about them and they're they're like feud or whatever, which
Speaker 1: is again disappointing as someone who loves as a barbed
Speaker 1: and a lamb, which is already a tough position to
Speaker 1: be as like, I don't want to see that play out,
Speaker 1: especially when you watched up out my Face video when
Speaker 1: they're having so much fun together genuinely they look like
Speaker 1: you're having a blast together, and you're like, I think
Speaker 1: it feels like a very wicked situation, you know, like
Speaker 1: that like like well, you know, separately, like they asked
Speaker 1: Maria one time, they were like, can you say a
Speaker 1: nice thing about Nicki Minaj? And Mariah turned to the
Speaker 1: camera and goes, you know, when she first came out,
Speaker 1: I clocked her right away, and I knew she was
Speaker 1: going to be a huge star, which is why she
Speaker 1: was on about my Face because I saw her hip hop.
Speaker 1: Maria has always nurtured the hip hop. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, that's a huge star. I think she's so talented,
Speaker 1: and then Nikki, in a separate interview, said I don't
Speaker 1: want to be fighting with her. She's Mariah carry my
Speaker 1: mother and I used to sing our songs all the time.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be fighting with her. So I
Speaker 1: think these are two people who again, it's the narcissism,
Speaker 1: it's the ego, it's the whatever that just comes with
Speaker 1: and we love both, but it just comes with the
Speaker 1: territory where you cannot have the two of them in
Speaker 1: the same place too often, sharing space because they're not
Speaker 1: used to it. Because another thing is just like you know,
Speaker 1: when you come from a culture of women being pitted
Speaker 1: against each other all the time, it's hard when they're
Speaker 1: fanning the flames so much to like subvert that because
Speaker 1: that's probably all they knew, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that neither of them had worked with
Speaker 1: a lot of other women and that and that's what
Speaker 1: you get when you combine Long Island with Bronx. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh dear, that, oh dear is all we have to say.
Speaker 1: But look, the only the only way you get two
Speaker 1: stars to co exist successfully in something is if you
Speaker 1: have a Natalie and Amila. Yes, and and listen to
Speaker 1: me here and now Kelly is a Natalie and Ariana. Also,
Speaker 1: the fact is like Kelly is now like older to
Speaker 1: the point where it's just like she's not trying to
Speaker 1: be a pop star in the way that Ariana is.
Speaker 1: Like so and also it's also not cool anymore to
Speaker 1: have like these women feuding, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that's not like that's not like a narrative that
Speaker 1: the media is chasing anymore. I think because like they
Speaker 1: know it's fucked up, even if they try to get
Speaker 1: it across like in terms of like like like like
Speaker 1: subliminal ways. I think that they know that they would
Speaker 1: get called out immediately for trying to portray a situation
Speaker 1: where two women on these shows were like going at
Speaker 1: each other just because like they're both the diva you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's it's so tired. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: it's it's although, you know what I was thinking about
Speaker 1: the other day, I'm like, do you think do you
Speaker 1: think ari would ever do a song with like a
Speaker 1: Cardi or do you think Cardi would ever do a
Speaker 1: song with the Doja? You know what? You know, I
Speaker 1: guess they all do songs together, well, you know what
Speaker 1: what with within with the Nikki of it all. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that might feel like that's already been
Speaker 1: undertow with Megan, like hopping around doing Doja, Cardi, Nikki,
Speaker 1: just like working with all of them. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that it really depends who you're aligned with initially, Like
Speaker 1: I almost feel like but Megan was I was aligned
Speaker 1: with Nikki the most, like and like the earliest iteration,
Speaker 1: and I kind of do. I feel like we've all wondered,
Speaker 1: like I wonder how Nikki feels about wob out performing
Speaker 1: howk Girl summer. In some ways, I also think we
Speaker 1: might be projecting a little bit onto the current narrative
Speaker 1: based on what it's been. We don't know what the
Speaker 1: relation when we haven't heard a lot of Nikki versus
Speaker 1: Cardi stuff. It feels like it feels like now that
Speaker 1: we've had like Megan's year and she has set the
Speaker 1: tone of like working with everyone, and you know, we
Speaker 1: we've sort of like I think it's honestly so ugly,
Speaker 1: like like when you see like this, Like I hated
Speaker 1: the Taylor and Katie thing. I thought that was so
Speaker 1: stupid and I thought it made them both. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hated it all. I hate I always hate it. I
Speaker 1: always hate it. It's it's never it's just so I
Speaker 1: don't know it's so base or whatever, especially when like,
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the one one of
Speaker 1: the only things I didn't like love about Lover or
Speaker 1: two is it felt like you need to come down,
Speaker 1: Like that felt like a vehicle for that moment where
Speaker 1: they like finally hugged again, And I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: why was this the thing in the first place, Like,
Speaker 1: it's stupid, it's dumb. Between Katie and Taylor, though we
Speaker 1: should say that Taylor was the one who kind of
Speaker 1: threw gas on the fire with bad blood. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's what I would say, based on status in the industry.
Speaker 1: There's no reason for Katie to come for Taylor, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. And I do believe it hurt her,
Speaker 1: Like I think that I think that whole situation ended
Speaker 1: up hurting Katie, and so I don't think. Well, can
Speaker 1: I tell you a rumor about what I heard started
Speaker 1: that whole thing that wasn't the dancers or no. I
Speaker 1: heard And I would never say where I heard this
Speaker 1: because I don't remember, but I heard that this is
Speaker 1: and this is the insane rumor I heard. I heard
Speaker 1: they were both at Club thirty three in Disneyland. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I heard they were both there and at
Speaker 1: the time, Katie was dating John Mayer. So I heard
Speaker 1: that Katie and John Mayer were one and then across
Speaker 1: the room Taylor was there with other people and they
Speaker 1: didn't know they both were going to be there, and
Speaker 1: so I heard that as a joke, Katie sent over
Speaker 1: to Taylor's table a glass of milk and told them
Speaker 1: tell tell her that this is on the woman in
Speaker 1: the corner, because she wanted to try to she wanted
Speaker 1: to break the tension because she was with John and
Speaker 1: John Mayer and Taylor famously had like a tough situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's tough to that's not super legible. If I'm
Speaker 1: Taylor and I get sent to glass of milk, I'm like,
Speaker 1: fuck you. Yeah. So apparently she was very fuck you
Speaker 1: about it and like the restaurant because she was like
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't like this, and she didn't
Speaker 1: get it because Katie, because Katie, can I say, despite
Speaker 1: Taylor being like the obvious bully in that dynamic, in
Speaker 1: the end, I feel like Katie had like a mean
Speaker 1: girl streak about her, like she just she gave off
Speaker 1: that energy. And I'm just saying, like, remember, like she
Speaker 1: used to be like really good at Twitter. I mean,
Speaker 1: like some of the kids might not know this. Katie
Speaker 1: Perry was like one of the early Twitter celebrities, was
Speaker 1: like really good at it, like got it, like joked
Speaker 1: about like I remember a great sense of humor about herself. Anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always think that Katie and this this is an
Speaker 1: annoying but L O L. But I always think that
Speaker 1: Katie is funny. It's one of the things I like
Speaker 1: about her. I like her wacky sense of humor. I
Speaker 1: like that her first ever Grammy performance was she came
Speaker 1: out as a banana and say I kissed her girl, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. I think her I think Left
Speaker 1: Shark is funny. I think her like like being sexual
Speaker 1: with a beach ball is funny. I think that humor.
Speaker 1: Her humor is one of the things I like about her.
Speaker 1: I think that her quote unquote sense of humor and
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's quote unquote sense of humor don't mix. It's
Speaker 1: very l a versus Nashville or l a versus you know, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: or however you want to delineate it. I I keep
Speaker 1: going back to where these people come from, Like with
Speaker 1: Maria and Niki or you know, with with Ari or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like it informs a lot. And Katie sending Taylor
Speaker 1: a glass of milk it feels very l a to me,
Speaker 1: feels very like or Santa Barbara, whatever the wherever the
Speaker 1: katy carries from. And it's but to think that this
Speaker 1: all started, potentially all started in Anaheim, California. This is
Speaker 1: what I heard. I heard that it was much more
Speaker 1: about the John Mayer of it all than it was
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and it was just like they just
Speaker 1: didn't communicate. Well then it was about backup dancers or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think that and you have to remember Taylor
Speaker 1: saying the backup dancer of it all, like the Sabotage
Speaker 1: Arena tour. That's like that that did start the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And also I'm not entirely sure that's how that works,
Speaker 1: Like I think the backup dancers have to be on
Speaker 1: some sort of contract or something. And when when thousand
Speaker 1: percent through on a contract and has anyone verified one
Speaker 1: that the actual like list the roster of dancers can
Speaker 1: be like cross referenced, and then for two that them
Speaker 1: that this is a very common occurrence. Potentially if it
Speaker 1: is like, it's very common for dancers, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like you have dancers like go from like a Gaga
Speaker 1: tour to like Carly Rae Jepson's or like Mark Hannamore
Speaker 1: or that's that's a bad example, but it's like there's
Speaker 1: I feel this happens all the time. Anyway. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we could. We could listen if you were
Speaker 1: a dancer on a tour. Wink fucking wink, you should
Speaker 1: reach out and maybe set some of this right, because
Speaker 1: right now we have all of our listeners believing that
Speaker 1: it's a Club thirty three moment, So I would rather
Speaker 1: it be a Club thirty three. But don't you think
Speaker 1: that all makes sense? I think that I can see it.
Speaker 1: I can see it playing out. Like Katie Be, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I got it, baby, I'm sending over a glass of milk.
Speaker 1: This works every time. She probably thought that was hilarious
Speaker 1: because Katie's sense of humor is sense a glass of
Speaker 1: milk or like you know, a gorilla on a telephone
Speaker 1: calling the police, you know what I mean, whereas like
Speaker 1: Taylor's sense of humor is different. It's like, um my
Speaker 1: cat's name is Meredith Gray. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like there's a different thing. Katie sense of
Speaker 1: humor is like non sequiturs, like very like unquote random
Speaker 1: imagery Taylor. Taylor, I would argue, doesn't really Taylor's sense
Speaker 1: of humor, which I don't think his sense of humor
Speaker 1: is a sense of humor necessarily is like cat photos
Speaker 1: and ship. Like I will say, as you and I
Speaker 1: love Taylor, and everyone knows we love Taylor, Taylor is
Speaker 1: not a fun particularly funny person, and that's okay. I
Speaker 1: think that she has a sense of humor, but I
Speaker 1: don't think she particularly has a great sense of humor
Speaker 1: about herself. So I think that someone who's like I
Speaker 1: just don't. I think they're oil and water in that regard,
Speaker 1: and they're therefore shouldn't be close because I think that,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they both take themselves super seriously. It's
Speaker 1: just like literally, from what you can see from what's
Speaker 1: projected to us from them, it seems like Katie has
Speaker 1: a more of uh an ability to say L O
Speaker 1: L I look dumb than Taylor ever will. Because Taylor,
Speaker 1: the second she was able to became you know, like
Speaker 1: uh at her at her apex, Taylor was cool, hot
Speaker 1: and with models at her apex. Katie Perry was beach
Speaker 1: balls at the super Bowl and they have a face
Speaker 1: and I'm kissing them and maybe I funked that tree,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so that's it's just
Speaker 1: at her at her apex. It was last Friday night
Speaker 1: and it was like just you know, like it was
Speaker 1: Taylor ever a kid. Doug how to engineer? Doug is asking,
Speaker 1: was Taylor every kid? Yeah? Well when well, Taylor, Taylor's
Speaker 1: whole stories that you know, she was kind of like
Speaker 1: the perfect you know, uh machine of like she was
Speaker 1: like she was cranking out songs and all she's ever
Speaker 1: her whole mindset has been driven by the music industry,
Speaker 1: and so maybe there was like an early loss of
Speaker 1: innocence in that way. I don't know. We were not
Speaker 1: going to like write the biography for these women. That's
Speaker 1: not for us to do. We're just talking about these
Speaker 1: very frivolous, fun things and taking them very seriously. I
Speaker 1: think it's time mant for us to do what we
Speaker 1: set out to do today. Do you agree? So we
Speaker 1: did set out to do something today, and I do
Speaker 1: agree because I think that we sort of have got
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this conversation, and we I just
Speaker 1: would like to say at the just to button it up,
Speaker 1: we love both. And if you don't think that Bowen
Speaker 1: and I ride hard for Taylor, you haven't listened to
Speaker 1: this podcast because we usually get told that we need
Speaker 1: to shut the funk up about her and her music
Speaker 1: and how much way And this is one of the
Speaker 1: first times that in a long time that we've been
Speaker 1: like critical of Taylor and it's it's something it's about
Speaker 1: something old doc has done anything new, I mean, speaking
Speaker 1: of Taylor and Katie. It's so funny that because I
Speaker 1: did this recently, um, you and I have made a
Speaker 1: lovely time out of watching those chart data YouTube videos
Speaker 1: do people we were talking about. So if you don't know,
Speaker 1: now you know. It's so you can see like an
Speaker 1: artists like Billboard History, the Hot one hundred history, and
Speaker 1: it's so fun to watch like how they're I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just they're really fun. It's very interesting to see
Speaker 1: how much it's like a very it's a glimpse. It's
Speaker 1: like a four D glimpse of like as in like
Speaker 1: you literally see the time acts list of like when
Speaker 1: things were promoted like when it's so interesting, and then
Speaker 1: Taylor's is obviously great. Um, Katie's so solid. Katie is
Speaker 1: really fucking solid. And then it inspired me to go
Speaker 1: and watch um music videos from the teenage dream era
Speaker 1: and from from the prison era. But I was like
Speaker 1: Prism slaps and people people actually don't give Prism enough credit.
Speaker 1: Prism is a good album and great album. And also
Speaker 1: like it was it was actually a prison justice for prison. Wait,
Speaker 1: it did incredibly well, just did really well. There's no
Speaker 1: need for justice for prison. Doug, do you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: coming in and saying you're anecdote about recording with Katie Perry? Yes,
Speaker 1: we loved it. We would love for you to tell
Speaker 1: the readers. Can you come in, Doug, Come in, Doug,
Speaker 1: tell tell them all. So you worked with Katy Perry,
Speaker 1: all right, so tell them your experience with Katie. I
Speaker 1: thought Katie was amazing. She's a great singer and played guitar.
Speaker 1: Was very funny, Like you said, I think Katie had
Speaker 1: got fun or childhood it like, I don't know if Taylor,
Speaker 1: I don't know she was a star so early. I
Speaker 1: don't know if she was ever a kid. I think
Speaker 1: that is part of why Katie's funny Katie. Katie did
Speaker 1: kind of go through this fucked up machinery of like
Speaker 1: Christian rock and Christian pop that I feel like she
Speaker 1: came out the other side of it being like, let
Speaker 1: me just have fun and not like worry about like
Speaker 1: this kind this this this morass of thing that I
Speaker 1: was just a part of. And you know what's what's
Speaker 1: funny is that people usually are like, oh, well, Katy Perry,
Speaker 1: you know, like she's not one of the singers. You
Speaker 1: said something really interesting, which is that she had a
Speaker 1: very big sound. What did you say about her? Oh,
Speaker 1: her voice is huge. Well, if you listen to her.
Speaker 1: Have you listened to her her MTV m plugged set? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So good. What did you work what did you work
Speaker 1: with her? Do you remember like what the tracks were
Speaker 1: with the album was? It was the first big one
Speaker 1: one of the Boys boy, it was her debut and
Speaker 1: thinking of you is I listened to that song one
Speaker 1: of my favorite songs and one of her favorite songs.
Speaker 1: She always she still plays that live to this day,
Speaker 1: and she'll always qualify by being like, and this is
Speaker 1: a song that I just like to do, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it, And she still does it and it's
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think that song got
Speaker 1: the credit. It's also one of my favorite music videos.
Speaker 1: But I'll never forget that you said that that she
Speaker 1: had like an easy to record sound because she's got
Speaker 1: such a big sound. She sings from the right place,
Speaker 1: a musical glimpse inside with Doug, thank you do, go away,
Speaker 1: go go get out of get out looking good, though
Speaker 1: looking good, dougs looking good. We did set out to
Speaker 1: do something. Yes is we are excited to announce that
Speaker 1: we are going to announce the some of the categories
Speaker 1: for the first maybe not anyone. We don't know what
Speaker 1: the cadence will be going, but it is the first.
Speaker 1: It is the first Lost Culturesta's Culture Awards. Now what is,
Speaker 1: you might ask, We barely know. All we know is
Speaker 1: that we've created several categories, and by several, I mean
Speaker 1: these categories will number in the hundreds us and we
Speaker 1: will be giving the awards at a later date. But
Speaker 1: we wanted to sort of go through some of the categories.
Speaker 1: Where we're starting the season official, this is the awards season.
Speaker 1: The last Culture is just awards season is beginning, and
Speaker 1: so we're gonna announce some of the categories today and
Speaker 1: we encourage you to sort of engage with each other
Speaker 1: about who could be the winners of these categories. There
Speaker 1: are no nominees. There are no nominees, but we will
Speaker 1: announce the winner and the people who are up for
Speaker 1: the awards are campaigning as the campaign has started. Yes,
Speaker 1: so if you feel that if you are sort of
Speaker 1: competitive for these awards, please campaign, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Or if you are if you fancy yourself a publicist
Speaker 1: for you know, a conceptual award, like we're gonna announce them.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna announce like one of them is
Speaker 1: just come out with this as a random when I
Speaker 1: picked up from the last best Seltzer flavor. If you
Speaker 1: feel like you want to campaign for pamplo mouse, let's
Speaker 1: say b be the publicist for pamplo mouse. Let us
Speaker 1: know that you want pamplo mouse to win that category.
Speaker 1: And there's certainly an argument for pamplo mouse. I mean,
Speaker 1: like the and you know, I already know some girls
Speaker 1: who could really go to the map for Pamplo mouse
Speaker 1: because I see them be drinking it. So um, we
Speaker 1: are at this time are going to bone and I
Speaker 1: are going to go back and forth saying some of
Speaker 1: the categories and understand that there are many categories to come.
Speaker 1: There will be two hundred and fifty categories. And this
Speaker 1: is the most ambitious event in Lost Culture history. And
Speaker 1: as you know, we've done some ambitious events. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: done the top two hundred moments in culture, and this
Speaker 1: will be even bigger than that. It is the Lost
Speaker 1: Cultures Culture the first this and if this is it's
Speaker 1: Emmy Grammy, Oscar Tony Lost Culture Racist Cultural Awards. So
Speaker 1: it's now ego and I Matt, I'm gonna say something,
Speaker 1: and I want you to really if you want to
Speaker 1: like rain, rain me in, let me know. I think
Speaker 1: some categories the readers can suggest. I think if you
Speaker 1: have a suggestion, you should for it. And I think
Speaker 1: the best, to be honest, the best way to reach
Speaker 1: us is through Twitter, is through the Lost Cultures to
Speaker 1: Twitter account tag Lost Culture rests um that is the
Speaker 1: most direct line into our ears. And I would say
Speaker 1: take it out of the d ms on Insta. Let's
Speaker 1: just let instab be insta tag at Lost Culture Rests
Speaker 1: on Twitter because those are bonomized twitters now we both
Speaker 1: we've both done a great job of saying fun Twitter personally,
Speaker 1: but we love that My the one moment, the space
Speaker 1: that I love and hold sacred is to every now
Speaker 1: and then check the Lost Culture Twitter for for for
Speaker 1: for some engagement. You know, some people are still complaining
Speaker 1: about certain things. That's fine, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: are really, you know, giving us great material suggestions. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have found half of the Death to All
Speaker 1: of Them content had it not been for the reader's
Speaker 1: treat And there is so much of it, and we're
Speaker 1: so happy about it. And yes, I have seen and
Speaker 1: Boone has seen the remix. We love the remix of
Speaker 1: all of them. It's absolutely amazing. But yes, at Lost
Speaker 1: Cultures if you want to suggest categories, but for now
Speaker 1: we will sort of at this moment begin to list
Speaker 1: the categories. Yes, alright, so Boonen, would you like to begin?
Speaker 1: I will begin. Our first category is biggest Jester. Biggest Jester,
Speaker 1: so this is um of all the gestures. This would
Speaker 1: be awarded to the biggest one, to the one who
Speaker 1: displays the most gesture behavior. The behavior you exhibited tonight
Speaker 1: was just jest, like if you can sort of understand
Speaker 1: who that might be directed to campaign for that person.
Speaker 1: The second category is biggest flop. This is not the
Speaker 1: biggest flop of the year necessarily, this is the biggest flop.
Speaker 1: Someone who um exhibited flop like behavior. Your behavior, the
Speaker 1: behavior you exhibit to night was flop. If you can
Speaker 1: see in your mindseye who that will be directed to,
Speaker 1: go ahead and campaign for that person. The next category
Speaker 1: is the biggest jest or flop. So if you can
Speaker 1: sort of combine what it means to be a jester
Speaker 1: and also what it means to be a flop, this
Speaker 1: is that type of person that we're looking for to
Speaker 1: sort of carry the mantle forward of the biggest jest
Speaker 1: or flop. The behavior you exhibited tonight was jest or
Speaker 1: flop like. So if you can see who that might
Speaker 1: be directed to in your mind's eye, then by all
Speaker 1: means campaign for that person. And then what's the next category.
Speaker 1: The next category is biggest jest or flop in the
Speaker 1: clowns square and the clown Square the clowns the Clowns Square.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's a correction actually because I typed in
Speaker 1: the town square. But Matt as the originator of that
Speaker 1: phrase gets to change the name. So if you can
Speaker 1: imagine sort of like the jest or flop that we've
Speaker 1: been talking about, but so public that you could even
Speaker 1: call what they're going through that they're in the clowns clowns,
Speaker 1: square tomatoes, flying tomatoes, flying makeup, the clown makeup. Honey,
Speaker 1: just imagine this person worthy of being dragged so hard
Speaker 1: because what they've flopped gesturing it was so clown squarish,
Speaker 1: clown like that. We you have to, we have to
Speaker 1: get rid of this person. Then please campaign for that person.
Speaker 1: I have, I have someone in mind already for that one.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but I'm so excited to find out why.
Speaker 1: The next category Most Amazing Impact in Film. This is
Speaker 1: similar to best Picture, would you say, but not really
Speaker 1: no impact. I would say this goes to the person, persons,
Speaker 1: or organization or or entity that has had the most
Speaker 1: amazing impact in film. So this is film of course
Speaker 1: meaning movies, um and impact meaning um gaggery gay. What's
Speaker 1: the next category? The next category is best Asker. So
Speaker 1: we have best actor, best actress that's not here today.
Speaker 1: We have best ask This is the most incredible person
Speaker 1: that ever asked questions. So this could be do you
Speaker 1: think it's It helps to kind of give examples not
Speaker 1: of people, but of kinds of people who are who
Speaker 1: are good askers. I would say people who are people who, um,
Speaker 1: you know, whose job it is to interview people, whether
Speaker 1: it's on a TV show or for a job or
Speaker 1: for lawyers, podcast lawyers, some the most the best asker
Speaker 1: of the year, let's just say, I mean, do you
Speaker 1: think I have a serious question? Are a lot of
Speaker 1: categories for the past year and culture, No, I would
Speaker 1: say it goes for all time. Amazing, amazing, and so
Speaker 1: this is this is the best asker of all time,
Speaker 1: best asker of all time. Okay, the next category funniest
Speaker 1: gay man. So these a gay man as in a
Speaker 1: man that has sex with other men, the person who
Speaker 1: is the funniest version of that. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of This is a crowded field. Oh there
Speaker 1: are I can already think of at least three people
Speaker 1: who are gay men and funny funny. What's the next category?
Speaker 1: The next category is funniest gay woman. This is a
Speaker 1: woman who has sex with other women, um or just
Speaker 1: kind of you know, thinks of herself as gay yea,
Speaker 1: and she is funny. Yeah, I can think of so many.
Speaker 1: This is maybe an even more crowded field. This is
Speaker 1: a very crowded field because I can think of at
Speaker 1: least twenty They've been allowed to be funny longer than
Speaker 1: gay man. And I'm okay saying man and we'll just
Speaker 1: get We'll just go ahead and say for now, unless
Speaker 1: unless the readers really push for more categories like this.
Speaker 1: Law Schooldress is an institution like any other institution, you know,
Speaker 1: it is prone to you know, social mishaps for misreadings.
Speaker 1: These are the old We're we're working with the gender
Speaker 1: binary here at this time. We're working with the binary
Speaker 1: and that's not just the Natalie Mila binary. We're working
Speaker 1: with funniest gay man and funniest gay woman at this time.
Speaker 1: Until that changes, we might expand the category. Who knows okay,
Speaker 1: um this what's the next category is best news? We
Speaker 1: heard not talk about this. So when you are living
Speaker 1: day today, you are confronted with so much news. Some
Speaker 1: of the news is bad news that could put you
Speaker 1: in a bad mood, but every now and then you
Speaker 1: get very good news, and sometimes you even get the
Speaker 1: best news. So this category is best news. We are
Speaker 1: of all time, like like we woke up and we
Speaker 1: we this was the best news that we could ever hear,
Speaker 1: so much so that it deserves an award today. And
Speaker 1: the next category is The next category is best candy.
Speaker 1: There are so many examples of candy Bowen. I can
Speaker 1: think of at least three I can think of at
Speaker 1: least three examples of Kenny that will be competitive in
Speaker 1: the running for the award best Candy. What's the next category?
Speaker 1: The next category is best Chocolate. Uh, you might as
Speaker 1: well hit up Hershey Park and get up on your
Speaker 1: chocolate because one of them is going to be winning
Speaker 1: the award. Um. I just got an email from at
Speaker 1: Ferrero Rochet publicist. Oh my god, is saying let's talk,
Speaker 1: saying let's talk. I have I have something that will
Speaker 1: make you really really happy. Oh my god, is the beginning?
Speaker 1: What is this the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, Because all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm knee deep and candy and chocolate girl,
Speaker 1: You're campaigning, You're campaigning. You are emilist Emily in parissing
Speaker 1: me today. What's the next This is best picture parentheses
Speaker 1: literal picture. There have been so many iconic pictures over
Speaker 1: the history of time. And this is the best picture.
Speaker 1: Because every year at the Oscars you hear you know,
Speaker 1: it's not just photos, it's it's drawings, paintings, It's not
Speaker 1: just photos. But and this is what makes this category
Speaker 1: so wild, giant category, lots of contenders, only one will win.
Speaker 1: Only one picture will win Best Picture. For now, almost
Speaker 1: all of the categories of the last Poolturesta's Culture Awards
Speaker 1: will only have one winner, some of them maybe ties,
Speaker 1: only some, but we will specify at a later date
Speaker 1: which ones those will be. There is a next category.
Speaker 1: It is Album of the Year, Album of the year.
Speaker 1: This is the album. This is like this is this
Speaker 1: is a songwriting age? Yeah? Is that? Is? That? Is that?
Speaker 1: What it is with the Grammys, Album of the Year
Speaker 1: goes to the album and then Song of the Year
Speaker 1: does go to the song and that's the songwriting award. No.
Speaker 1: But between album and Record of the Year, the album
Speaker 1: is I'm so sorry, collection of songs, collection of songs.
Speaker 1: This is the best collection of songs. This is not
Speaker 1: of all time. This is of the year. Well we
Speaker 1: didn't say what year. We didn't say what year. And
Speaker 1: the next we have the next category. Yes, it is
Speaker 1: record of the year. So this is the production. This
Speaker 1: is the production. Yes, yes, we did not say what year.
Speaker 1: We did not say we have We have a next category,
Speaker 1: Best Seltzer Flavor. As I had mentioned earlier, I'm still excited.
Speaker 1: I'm still as excited as I was when I gave
Speaker 1: a little peek before. We gave sort of a big
Speaker 1: behind the curtain, and now it's like, let's really start
Speaker 1: thinking about And we said Pamblo Moose, which sort of
Speaker 1: I think is going to put them in front of
Speaker 1: everyone else. But I don't ever deny some of these
Speaker 1: girls that love their love their coconut. Hello, I'm lime, Lime,
Speaker 1: Hello Mango. I have to say mango is always in
Speaker 1: the running because you always get mango when you order
Speaker 1: a box of lacrosse. You actually can't. You cannot avoid mango.
Speaker 1: And that's got to be something. And if this category
Speaker 1: we're best fruit, mango would be very much in the conversation.
Speaker 1: And the fact that we're still talking about mango when
Speaker 1: the category is best Seltzer Flavor says so much about
Speaker 1: the power of mango. There is a next category that
Speaker 1: we have most shocking moment of the year. This was
Speaker 1: this goes out to that moment that, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is the moment of the year. We don't know
Speaker 1: what year yet, this is the moment of the year
Speaker 1: when we all went, oh my god, my god, and
Speaker 1: we had to look at each other because we were
Speaker 1: so shock shocked. It was so shocking the moment of
Speaker 1: the year that it deserves the award for most Shocking
Speaker 1: Moment of the Year. I'm excited. I'm excited to announce
Speaker 1: the next category. Yes, there's an next category, Best team
Speaker 1: between the ages of thirteen and nineteen. There are many
Speaker 1: people competing for this award and only one will win.
Speaker 1: We have the next category, best twenty something between so
Speaker 1: people between the ages of twenty to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: even more so than many people in this category. It's
Speaker 1: a more crowded category than almost any other. I think
Speaker 1: you might be right, definitely more twenty some things than
Speaker 1: there are route types of route. We have a next category.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's like going to be very competitive between
Speaker 1: a few for for like Seltzer, but twenty something, it's
Speaker 1: wide open at this point, so open. We have an
Speaker 1: next category, best thirty something. Oh my god. And these
Speaker 1: are these are people who you know, some of them
Speaker 1: may be very established in their fields. If that's what
Speaker 1: we're judging them on, If that's what it's if that's
Speaker 1: what the the the Academy, the last Cultural Stist Academy
Speaker 1: judges them on, which is the readers. But it could
Speaker 1: be someone who just exudes the most intrigue or awe
Speaker 1: or someone who just embodies what a thirtysomething is. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we're in this category. We're in this category and
Speaker 1: it's there's no there's no nominees, but we're up for it.
Speaker 1: We're up for it. How do you feel about being
Speaker 1: up for it? Nervous? I'm really nervous. I don't I
Speaker 1: kind of don't want it because then that's when people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, you know they're overrated, and you know,
Speaker 1: why are we sort of keeping all this praise on them?
Speaker 1: And it just really it makes me feel uneasy. If
Speaker 1: I think about winning this award, I think what scares
Speaker 1: me is how much I do want it, And then
Speaker 1: you can admit that I'm not. I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: admit that I want it yet. That's that's the difference.
Speaker 1: We have a next category. We have the next category.
Speaker 1: This is the Lady God Award for being one person
Speaker 1: in a room award. This is an award for being
Speaker 1: in a for someone being in a room and being
Speaker 1: the only person in that room. Is that was? Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Seems clear to me. We have another category,
Speaker 1: best straight or heterosexual person. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: There are a lot of good ones. They are out
Speaker 1: there there, I believe, I believe. Um. The saying is
Speaker 1: they're here, they're straight or had a sexual Get used
Speaker 1: to it, Get used to it, you know. I feel
Speaker 1: like this is you know, if this were a sliding
Speaker 1: scale sort of nomination system, like there would only be
Speaker 1: certain nominees based on the submissions. Um, this would be
Speaker 1: one of the sparser categories. But just as much open
Speaker 1: ended in this category as there is with everything else.
Speaker 1: I think that, um, this is just going to come
Speaker 1: down to who really wants it? I agree, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people might want it more than we think.
Speaker 1: We have a next category. This category is most iconic
Speaker 1: building or structure of all time. We know them, we
Speaker 1: love them, we live in them, we seen them, we
Speaker 1: often photographed them. Sometimes we even read about them or
Speaker 1: see them on tours. But only one is the most
Speaker 1: iconic building or structure, and we'll win the Last Cultures
Speaker 1: Culture Award for being as such. The next category is
Speaker 1: best YouTube video of those chart data timeline things. I
Speaker 1: was just talking about them. You In fact, we're we
Speaker 1: love these videos and there's and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: them out there, only for the important ones because you know,
Speaker 1: the one hit wonders. They can't you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a snapshot. You don't really need the timeline.
Speaker 1: And to think that something we only brought up on
Speaker 1: this episode isn't an tire is an entire category. It's
Speaker 1: as it has every right to be. It has every
Speaker 1: right to be. Don't don't sleep on this category. You
Speaker 1: got this. This is not one of those like, oh
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of the show, everyone get up
Speaker 1: and you know, go, we feel your drinks now. This
Speaker 1: is a category you're gonna want to stick around for promise.
Speaker 1: And we have the next category. Speaking of things we
Speaker 1: discussed on the episode, Best Katie Perry moment. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there have been so many moments. There have been so
Speaker 1: many moments of Katie Perry. Do you think a moment
Speaker 1: that hasn't even happened yet might win. It's light up
Speaker 1: to me. It's not up to me, but I guess
Speaker 1: it is. Ultimately, I guess it is up to us.
Speaker 1: But I but I'm not ruling it out. I think
Speaker 1: that people should campaign. I think if you it's it's
Speaker 1: like an American Idol, where if you didn't want that
Speaker 1: person to be voted out, you should have. If you
Speaker 1: want to campaign and you want something to us at
Speaker 1: the top and win the Cultural Award, campaign campaign. My god,
Speaker 1: here we go. We have another category, best movie we
Speaker 1: did not see. Now, mo one and I have seen
Speaker 1: very many movies. Let's be real, I have seen I
Speaker 1: have not seen so much, and only one of them
Speaker 1: will win the Cultural Award for Best Movie. We bowhen
Speaker 1: and I did not see amazing. We have another think
Speaker 1: we have another category. I think it's your turn to
Speaker 1: outstanding Reality competition host. There are some, I mean famously
Speaker 1: one has won the Emmy every year. This might be
Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to either add to that hall
Speaker 1: or go a different way. Man, I think you're up
Speaker 1: for this category. I'm up for this. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I am not. It would be inappropriate for me, especially
Speaker 1: because I'm nervous about how much I on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to sort of sway the publicism campaigners out there, of
Speaker 1: which now everyone is one. But I am up for this.
Speaker 1: This is what everyone has to understand when it's lost
Speaker 1: culture is this culture word season? Everyone's a publicist. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's really culture number ninety one. When it's lost season,
Speaker 1: everyone plist. Oh yeah. We have the next category, smallest snub.
Speaker 1: People talk about the big ones, but but there are
Speaker 1: small ones. There's snubs there. You know are snubs. We
Speaker 1: can acknowledge them to be snubs, but if they're not
Speaker 1: that big, they're not a big deal. It's like, well
Speaker 1: that person didn't get didn't win, or didn't get nominated.
Speaker 1: That's too bad, But it's not. It's not something that
Speaker 1: they really maybe fully deserved as much as you know,
Speaker 1: as as this other person. I'm also up for this.
Speaker 1: This is getting really really meta that it's an Aura
Speaker 1: Boros sneak is eating its own damn tail. We have
Speaker 1: the next category, worst insult towards us. This can be
Speaker 1: this dates back to our friendship or when people would
Speaker 1: whatever the first time. Oh my god, Matt, you know
Speaker 1: you know who, Like there's someone out there who made
Speaker 1: history which was not not insulted us, but there was
Speaker 1: the there was the first person to refer to the
Speaker 1: two of us as like a unit of like just like, oh,
Speaker 1: those two people over there, you know, like exactly who
Speaker 1: grouped us together for the first time. That person made history.
Speaker 1: That person made history. And they better hope that there's
Speaker 1: a bigger insult towards us out there history guys over there, Well,
Speaker 1: this is this is the award for the worst insult
Speaker 1: that someone has made about us. And this can date
Speaker 1: as far back um as far back too. When you
Speaker 1: and I were in college walking down the street together,
Speaker 1: getting a coffee together, saying hello, someone coming up to
Speaker 1: a thing, you fucking get out of our my way,
Speaker 1: you coffee people. That's a bad example, you know, but
Speaker 1: I think coffee people was sort of used in there.
Speaker 1: It could have been something else, just saying, just saying,
Speaker 1: we have scariest monster. Lots of scary ones, I mean fictional, nonfictional.
Speaker 1: I mean from Dracula to the Uni Bomber. There have
Speaker 1: been so many monsters in history. I mean Nurse Ratchet two, Cookie,
Speaker 1: Cookie Monster, and people think Cookie is scary, the fake,
Speaker 1: the real Who will be the scariest of them all?
Speaker 1: That's the big question we ask I have one I
Speaker 1: have I have a category I should by what I
Speaker 1: mean category most controversial Wendy Williams moment. I mean, we
Speaker 1: discussed them on this podcast, but only one can be
Speaker 1: the most controversial. Is it her sort of shrugging off
Speaker 1: someone's death. Is it her fainting in a sort of
Speaker 1: statue of liberty garb? What is the most controversial? What
Speaker 1: was the moment that shook it up the most? When
Speaker 1: it comes to the Queen of talk, Wendy Williams, and
Speaker 1: I think wend I believe Wendy is up for a
Speaker 1: lot of these categories. She's up for almost every category.
Speaker 1: Wendy Wendy is the is the favorite and a lot
Speaker 1: of these categories. Maybe definitely for best. I'm looking just
Speaker 1: at a glance, best asked for you know best. I
Speaker 1: think the most shocking moment of the year, most shocking
Speaker 1: of the year square for sure. For sure. In many ways,
Speaker 1: she could be the scariest, most sponster on more, smallest
Speaker 1: snub Wendy. Wendy will be a presence, she president. I
Speaker 1: haven't I have a new category, most recurring stress dream.
Speaker 1: Recurring stress dream, the stress dream that recurs the most.
Speaker 1: If you could, like write, if you keep a journal
Speaker 1: for your dreams, and you went back and flip to
Speaker 1: the pages flip flip, flip fi flip, and he thought,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the one where I'm doing that, that's
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna win most common. Thank you. We
Speaker 1: have an ex category Worst way to die. Death is sad.
Speaker 1: Death is sad, But but it's not always bad bad,
Speaker 1: and there's some there's some deaths that are bad, and
Speaker 1: there's some deaths that and there is a death that
Speaker 1: is the worst, and we are going to be awarding
Speaker 1: that on the last Cultures Culture Awards. I'm seeing a
Speaker 1: new category coming through. We have an ex category best
Speaker 1: flavor of them All. This is a different This is
Speaker 1: different from best Seltzer flavor. Oh, because the could be
Speaker 1: the best Seltzer flavor, which I think I know what
Speaker 1: I want, is definitely different than the best flavor of
Speaker 1: them All of them all are the year or of
Speaker 1: all time. You you're not reading it's best flavor of
Speaker 1: them all. That's of the set of flavors that exist currently.
Speaker 1: But are we stretching it back to of all time,
Speaker 1: every flavor that's existed, best flavor of it? Then that
Speaker 1: means that means there are a lot. This is the
Speaker 1: crowded category. It's very crowded, very crowded. And if your
Speaker 1: flavor of talk show host is Wendy Williams, and then
Speaker 1: she's also up for this category best little Bro. Remember
Speaker 1: little bro is what Matt Rodgers was called by the
Speaker 1: man who was topping him. Yeah, and it really really worked,
Speaker 1: really sort of was a trigger, as the kids say,
Speaker 1: it was like he was her minding Granger casting a
Speaker 1: spe Is that it worked? Okay, atio come akio, com
Speaker 1: akio prostate orgasm. I thought it was at whatever text
Speaker 1: that's that's me saying or shock or Scotch. Say you
Speaker 1: said worst War Scotch. Sure we have we have an
Speaker 1: next category, best big Bro. This is almost would you
Speaker 1: say this is another way of saying best top I?
Speaker 1: I it's not up to me yet again, it's really
Speaker 1: up to it either is up to us or it's
Speaker 1: it's not. I don't know what you we need to
Speaker 1: really like fall on one side of me. I would
Speaker 1: say this, we are going to be deciding the winners,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't really mean us out to us. I
Speaker 1: see that makes total SI. I think that this is
Speaker 1: where the readers have to come in and really campaign.
Speaker 1: You know, who is the best big bro? Is it
Speaker 1: a big bro in film and television? Is it a
Speaker 1: top it's not. It's just not for me to say.
Speaker 1: You not know exactly, And we also don't know when
Speaker 1: these awards are going to be m which is important
Speaker 1: to say. Okay, we have the next category best friend,
Speaker 1: best friend. That's my best friend. If you need to freak,
Speaker 1: I'm dumb, but motherfucker, she might tweedle d this is
Speaker 1: this is the friend that is the best. I think
Speaker 1: you're up for this. I think you're up for this,
Speaker 1: and to be competing against each other in this category
Speaker 1: is hard, so hard, and I guess I'm just it's
Speaker 1: I'm scared how much I want it. I don't want
Speaker 1: it because then I will always be measured against this
Speaker 1: award and be like, well it's the you know, twenty
Speaker 1: years from now, will I be a best friend? Will be?
Speaker 1: Will I be as good of a friend as I was?
Speaker 1: And you know, in all my life before, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: I don't really want it, and you're brave enough to
Speaker 1: say that you do, and I wish I had that bravery.
Speaker 1: And that's why I love you so much as a friend,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you, you back. We have
Speaker 1: an next category, Most memorable line in a movie. This
Speaker 1: is not a screenwriting award, but it's an award for
Speaker 1: the line that is most memorable. And this could come
Speaker 1: in a screen in a screenplay that is absolute horseshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's the most memorable line in the movie. The
Speaker 1: camp classics are not are not disqualified from this. The
Speaker 1: trash the trashiest line. All movies are competing. We have
Speaker 1: an next category. We have We have a nice category,
Speaker 1: most memorable line in a TV show. This is this
Speaker 1: is similar to move forward to me, but every everything
Speaker 1: to hold on, Hold on. Okay, So I've I've just
Speaker 1: I did just receive an email from Megan McCain, who's
Speaker 1: listening line, but she prefers to email us messages. As
Speaker 1: we're recording, she says that all TV shows are in competition,
Speaker 1: are competing for this category. Makes sense to me. We
Speaker 1: have a category. Have a next category, best note ever sung? Now,
Speaker 1: is this a pitch? It could be about pitch, It
Speaker 1: could be about emotion. It could be about how high
Speaker 1: the note is or how low the note is extributing
Speaker 1: who sang the note is, what I'm asking. I think
Speaker 1: that it could be a specific notes sung in a
Speaker 1: specific song. It could be a note on the scale.
Speaker 1: All I know is it's the category is best note
Speaker 1: ever ever sung. And it's very clear the time, the time,
Speaker 1: the timeline is very clear. Here best note ever. We
Speaker 1: know what we're dealing with. And it's so interesting that
Speaker 1: this category has ever in and the other categories either
Speaker 1: don't have the word ever in it, or say of
Speaker 1: the year, but some of them are of all time
Speaker 1: or of all This is best. Actually, I'm going to
Speaker 1: snow myself into the ring right now, good late entry
Speaker 1: tray for your consideration. We have an expory worst note ever.
Speaker 1: Oh you thought the bodiaries were done? No, here, here, here,
Speaker 1: here they are again. And I just threw myself into
Speaker 1: the rooting for that as well. Oh, we have an
Speaker 1: ex category best live performance by a woman. There's so
Speaker 1: many hm I can think of. At least three I
Speaker 1: can't think of at least three. We are not up
Speaker 1: for this, no, but so many people are. And the
Speaker 1: submission window will not close until the minute before we
Speaker 1: start the awards. The awards recording the episode um at
Speaker 1: an at an undetermined time, which we do at times
Speaker 1: which we do not know when. We have an ext category,
Speaker 1: the Diabolo Cody Screenplay Award. This is an award that
Speaker 1: is either for a screenplay that really really fucking popped
Speaker 1: right away and people got it and loved it, or
Speaker 1: didn't pop right away but earns a Holt appreciation years
Speaker 1: later until it becomes universally loved by everybody and is
Speaker 1: seen as like a really great sort of um, you know, horror, fantasy,
Speaker 1: feminist work. So this is actually um. While it's named
Speaker 1: after Diablo Cody and you think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a general good award for good screenplay, it's actually very
Speaker 1: It should really apply to being Diablo Cody vibe. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be written by Diablo. It should
Speaker 1: just feel like Tully. It should feel like young adults
Speaker 1: in energy in essence. Yes, we have an ex category,
Speaker 1: the Kate Blanchet Award for Good Acting. M hmm, well,
Speaker 1: I think that one of the best actors of all
Speaker 1: time is Kate Blanchett. I think Bone would agree. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree, and so this is an award for good acting.
Speaker 1: But remember it should feel like Kate Blanchet is also winning.
Speaker 1: It is Kate up for this award. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: Diablo up for the Screenplay Award, Yes, and if they
Speaker 1: don't win their own it would be so embarrassing. But
Speaker 1: but listen, I mean a lot. This is not We're
Speaker 1: not trying to make anyone comfortable here. That sort of
Speaker 1: brings me to my next category. Here we have it
Speaker 1: is the Kylie Minogue Award for why haven't they Happened
Speaker 1: in America Yet? Said? I mean, and is this is
Speaker 1: this a similar thing where if Kylie doesn't win this one,
Speaker 1: that it's just egg on her face. I think it
Speaker 1: would be major egg on her small Australian face if
Speaker 1: she her little auzzy face, if she didn't win an
Speaker 1: award that was her namesake, because that would mean that
Speaker 1: we're asking why haven't they happened in America yet? Magnitude
Speaker 1: and Kylie, which sort of brings me to the next
Speaker 1: world interesting next category the Little Mix Award for being
Speaker 1: absolutely fearsome boots. Oh my god, they are fierce. Those three.
Speaker 1: Those are some fierce girls. And listen, they are obviously
Speaker 1: up for the Kylie Minogue why Haven't they Happened in
Speaker 1: America Yet? Award, but they're also up for the Little
Speaker 1: Mixed Award for being absolutely fierce boots and it would
Speaker 1: be egg on their British faces if they didn't win
Speaker 1: the award for them they're variably sized British faces. And
Speaker 1: I think but at least I think there are presents
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the awards. I mean that they're
Speaker 1: definitely have. For Best Live Performance by a Woman, UM,
Speaker 1: that would be a shared award UM, even though the
Speaker 1: category signifies UH denotes a single woman. UM. Smallest Snubs
Speaker 1: for sure, Best twenty something, Best twenty something Album of
Speaker 1: the Year, Record of the Year, UM. Best News we
Speaker 1: heard could be about Little Mix. UM. You know there's
Speaker 1: a lot there, so I think Little Mixed, Like, if
Speaker 1: they don't win this one, there's there's plenty of opportunity
Speaker 1: in other categories. There's a lot of opportunity UM. And
Speaker 1: speaking of opportunity, the next category, we have a next category,
Speaker 1: the Tina Turner Legend Award. This will go to a
Speaker 1: legend on the magnitude. This will go to an absolute
Speaker 1: legend on the magnitude of Tina rock icon. Tina Turner,
Speaker 1: someone who broke, reinvented, invented the form to begin with,
Speaker 1: someone who is legendary, lived and lived. Don't you want
Speaker 1: to be a legend or statement or star? My god?
Speaker 1: We have a next category, Most Relaxing Destination. You close
Speaker 1: your eyes and what do you picture if you if
Speaker 1: you want to be transported to a place where you
Speaker 1: were completely at ease. You know, this could be a
Speaker 1: specific place or a place that is sort of imagined,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It can be anything. It
Speaker 1: could be anything. It could be anything. This is very
Speaker 1: similar to the Scariest Monster fictional nonfictional. It's wide open, right.
Speaker 1: We have an ext category, Best damn Bird. This is
Speaker 1: a big one. This is one of the biggest categories
Speaker 1: of all because there are thousands, millions, billions of birds,
Speaker 1: and also there is the saying, so this is the
Speaker 1: best damn bird. It is not the Katrina's Clarity's Rogers
Speaker 1: Award for Best Damn Bird. It is just best damn Bird.
Speaker 1: Katrina has no pressure on her to win this because
Speaker 1: she's not up for it. But she is. She is
Speaker 1: sort of you know, I'm sure that she will campaign.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure that she as someone who's been
Speaker 1: around birds. Everyone's publicist, including my mother. We have an
Speaker 1: next category, Best Disney World ride. There's so many, there
Speaker 1: are so many doesn't and we're not even we're not
Speaker 1: even specifying if it's a flume, if it's a three
Speaker 1: D show, if it's a live show, if it's a ride. No,
Speaker 1: it's just ride. It's just ride, something you get on. Well,
Speaker 1: unless do you consider, like, uh, one of the live shows.
Speaker 1: That's not a ride to you? You don't. You don't
Speaker 1: ride a live show. It's actually with the culture number
Speaker 1: one hundred and six, you don't ride show unless you're
Speaker 1: a rodeo person. Unless you're at the rodeo. You're on
Speaker 1: your you're on the damn you're on the damn cow.
Speaker 1: I guess so. But I guess then the cow would
Speaker 1: be the of course, because famously at these rodeos they
Speaker 1: ride cows. Cowboy, what how boy? What? We have a
Speaker 1: next category, best Universal Studios Orlando. Right, I want to
Speaker 1: see my Orlando Queen's campaigning. I want the girls campaigning
Speaker 1: for their faiths. This is definitive. This is definitive. Okay.
Speaker 1: Should we define a ride as anything that you put
Speaker 1: that you buckle a seapill for not even necessarily because
Speaker 1: on the teacups they don't make you put a seat belt.
Speaker 1: There are some flume rides like like I think Splash Mountain.
Speaker 1: You don't have to put on a seat anything. You
Speaker 1: get in and then it goes. Thank you. I all
Speaker 1: I wanted all along was just for some definition, and
Speaker 1: you gave it to me just now, so so well
Speaker 1: that's why I'm here. Thank you. We have the next
Speaker 1: category now, six Flags Award for Worst Ride in Orlando.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is the six Flags Award for
Speaker 1: Worst Ride in Orlando. This really speaks for itself and
Speaker 1: its namesake. A bad chain of theme parks for worst
Speaker 1: ride in Orlando, Florida. I want to see my girls campaigning.
Speaker 1: I want to see my girls campaigning. Now? Is am
Speaker 1: I wrong in saying that there's a ride at the
Speaker 1: airport or now? I think I think I'm wrong. I
Speaker 1: think you might be wrong, But I wasn't sure if
Speaker 1: it was like a vagus thing where like you know,
Speaker 1: there's like slot machines at the airport and it's like
Speaker 1: they kind of like want to bring that experience to
Speaker 1: when as soon as you leave, I think I would know,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know, And actually that sounds it sounds wrong
Speaker 1: as they say it. But this this isn't even something
Speaker 1: at Universal or Disney World. It's it could be a
Speaker 1: different part. Yeah, okay. We have a next category, Best
Speaker 1: Cousin of the Week. So this is anyone that has
Speaker 1: Cousin of the Week energy. You may have to sort
Speaker 1: of dive back into the podcast to find out what
Speaker 1: cousin of the week is. But this is someone who
Speaker 1: embodies what it means to be a cousin of the week.
Speaker 1: We'll be giving them an award Cousin of the week.
Speaker 1: And I should yes, and I should clarify it's best
Speaker 1: cousin of the week of all time. Correct, best cousin
Speaker 1: of the Week ever. Ever, it's it's not in It's
Speaker 1: not in the actual title of the category, but it's
Speaker 1: I But no, now you're adding it. I see on
Speaker 1: the Google on the Google doc and thank you. So
Speaker 1: I'm reading. Let me just read that again, best cousin
Speaker 1: of the Week ever of all time. So this might
Speaker 1: require some homework. The cousin of the week is someone
Speaker 1: who embodies what it means to be a cousin that week.
Speaker 1: This award is given to the best cousin of the
Speaker 1: week ever, of all time. Thank you. We have a
Speaker 1: next category, Best I don't think so, Honey of all time. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm speechless. Our own thing to know that's on the list.
Speaker 1: It's it's an honor. You're up for it. I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm up for this. I think you're for it. No,
Speaker 1: I think for obvious people who are up for this.
Speaker 1: Can I just can I just list off? I think
Speaker 1: I can. I can think of one, go ahead, I
Speaker 1: can think of a couple. Patie and Joe can booster
Speaker 1: great a titleman, Sudie Green, I mean, you know the people,
Speaker 1: the people you know and love, Um, Sabrina Woo gave
Speaker 1: a great one. Absolutely, a lot of a lot of contenders.
Speaker 1: I'm not up for this and that's what Hey, No,
Speaker 1: you're up for it. Being up for it and being
Speaker 1: competitive for it are two different things. I also think
Speaker 1: you often do this thing where you're like, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's bad, I'm bad. But you have had some really
Speaker 1: good ones that are competitive. And you know what, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be people campaigning, a lot of publicists out there
Speaker 1: are going to be campaigning, and you might be surprised.
Speaker 1: What of your repertoire is eligible and worthy? How do
Speaker 1: you feel about your sort of your odds in this one.
Speaker 1: I think I have submitted a lot of material, and
Speaker 1: I think that they might all cancel each other out.
Speaker 1: But I think I've had some good I don't think
Speaker 1: so Honey is. I would be shocked to hear that
Speaker 1: one of my I don't think so Honey's was the best.
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey of all time. I'm actually
Speaker 1: pretty sure I know what's gonna win this. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure to know what's gonna win this. But we have
Speaker 1: to talk to you, Megan and I. We have an
Speaker 1: ex category best thing to order for the table. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many apps on money apps there's not and
Speaker 1: not even apps. Sometimes it's a pizza, sometimes it's an
Speaker 1: entree that everyone shares, and we should say that this
Speaker 1: is the best of all those things. You sit down,
Speaker 1: you feel out the vibe. Someone says, I know what
Speaker 1: to order the table, and then it comes and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so glad you ordered, so happy
Speaker 1: and thedos. I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself. I
Speaker 1: don't want to know. You know you're a campaigning. I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to. I didn't mean to campaign, and I
Speaker 1: actually don't really care for peppers. I love Schido peppers.
Speaker 1: I guess now I'm in the publicist. Huh, we'rest everyone's
Speaker 1: a publicist. That's kind of like everyone's a critic. Everyone's
Speaker 1: a publicist. We have an next category. Best dinner usually
Speaker 1: happens after the meal that you eat that's likely the
Speaker 1: last meal of the day. Sometimes sometimes the borders are
Speaker 1: a little a little undefined. Is something you eat that
Speaker 1: really feels substantial at the end of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I've had some good ones in my life. I'm
Speaker 1: very blessed. I am so fortunate to have eaten some
Speaker 1: dinners that I would consider some of the best. And
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm done. I don't think I'm through,
Speaker 1: but one of them will be. I don't think I'm through.
Speaker 1: That's me. I'm so I'm so amazed at that that
Speaker 1: you don't think you're done, that you don't think you're
Speaker 1: through with your dinners. I think I'll continue to eat dinner.
Speaker 1: And I think that, But but up until now, they'll
Speaker 1: have been one best dinner. And this is not best
Speaker 1: dinner that we've eaten. It's best best dinner. Take it
Speaker 1: out of dinner, I know. I tell I'm telling the publicists,
Speaker 1: take it out of us, take it out of you.
Speaker 1: We have to make an objective culture decision. I'm what's
Speaker 1: the best dinner? We have the next category, best lunch.
Speaker 1: This is lunch. This is that meal you eat. Yes,
Speaker 1: and some in some school systems and some public schools,
Speaker 1: eleven am. That was. You know, I went to a
Speaker 1: school where if you if you had eleven am lunch,
Speaker 1: you were lucky. I had lunch one time at school recently. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Hi school I had my lunch period was ten fifteen am.
Speaker 1: And that's what you know what? And we're actually being
Speaker 1: classist because at six they got us stuff. That's Jesus.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about the graveyard shift people. Maybe ten
Speaker 1: am is their dinner, you know what I'm saying, thinking
Speaker 1: not even in we're thinking in terms of a capitalist
Speaker 1: sort of timetable in the day, and let's just dismantle it.
Speaker 1: But but but we're not getting into the category. That's sure.
Speaker 1: But best lunch can be any time, and so can
Speaker 1: the next category. We have a next category, best fist,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and breakfast can be at any time
Speaker 1: in the day too. I know some diners that serve
Speaker 1: it all day long. Okay and say that. Say that,
Speaker 1: and you want to know what I did the other night,
Speaker 1: could have been, could have been earlier than eleven pm.
Speaker 1: I said, I haven't eaten anything all day. I'm hungry.
Speaker 1: This is what I want. I fried. I scrambled some eggs,
Speaker 1: put some my some put them, put some of my
Speaker 1: tomato kimche on top, put them on a piece of toast.
Speaker 1: And that was my dinner. And I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: The behavior that they created, the words go off king,
Speaker 1: about ak, the behavior of a king frying eggs, go
Speaker 1: off king, And it's never been more apt. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We have the next category, best fish. This is when
Speaker 1: this is This is when Matt and I really kind
Speaker 1: of unraveled. But as we were typing this list, best fish,
Speaker 1: the best what's the best fish? You want to know
Speaker 1: from you? What is the best fish? Once and for
Speaker 1: all we have skipped too. I'm gonna stay in the
Speaker 1: next category, Best snack. You might eat this between breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 1: and lunch and dinner. Best snack. It's the one, number one,
Speaker 1: number one. It's okay, number one, best snack. We have
Speaker 1: a next category, Best beverage. This is something you drink,
Speaker 1: whether it's with a meal or not not tethered to
Speaker 1: a meal at all. About drink some water right now?
Speaker 1: Which is which is in the running? Water is in
Speaker 1: the beverage. It's up for It's competitive, it's up for it.
Speaker 1: It's competitive. I think it's got a lot of fans,
Speaker 1: maybe even everyone in the world. But will they vote
Speaker 1: and will they will they campaign? It's not up to us,
Speaker 1: not up to us until it is exclusively. We have
Speaker 1: a next category, the cath run Han Award for us
Speaker 1: being gagged. This is going to really stir up some
Speaker 1: some drama. A lot of people will have a lot
Speaker 1: of strong opinions on that, because, of course, being gagged
Speaker 1: is a strong is a strong opinion, is a strong emotion,
Speaker 1: one of the strongest emotions you could feel, love, anger,
Speaker 1: being gagged, and Catherine Han is very emblematic of that.
Speaker 1: That's why the word is named after her. She is
Speaker 1: in the running, she's up for it, and humiliating for
Speaker 1: her if she doesn't win. Humiliating. We have the next category,
Speaker 1: worst criminal, worst criminal of all time. This is dark.
Speaker 1: There are dark criminals out there and this is not
Speaker 1: this is like blue collar criminals, because this could be murderers,
Speaker 1: so many ways you could be a criminal, bootleggers, so
Speaker 1: many kinds of crime, white color, blue collar, black color.
Speaker 1: That's when I meant when I said blue collar criminal,
Speaker 1: I said, I meant a blue collar crimbin all is
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not a category. I think it's clear
Speaker 1: this is the worst criminal of all time, which is
Speaker 1: separate from scariest monster. Oh yeah, but there's some over there.
Speaker 1: You know. It might be a concentric circle within scariest
Speaker 1: monster of all time, or it's an end diagram where
Speaker 1: there's plenty of overlap. I think it could be a
Speaker 1: concentric circle. We have at best influencer. We haven't heard
Speaker 1: of so many we haven't seen young girls are influencing
Speaker 1: all the Judah day, and we haven't heard of so
Speaker 1: many of them. This one of them is the best.
Speaker 1: Is the best women? Next category? Best emoji? You know
Speaker 1: and you love them. You see them hanging out in
Speaker 1: your phone all day, like Gells boyfriend, Like just oh,
Speaker 1: he's in the phone. He lives in the phone. The
Speaker 1: emojis live on the phone. And some of them are new,
Speaker 1: some of them are old. Some of them you never
Speaker 1: even used. How often do you go into the flags.
Speaker 1: How often? How often do some of you go into
Speaker 1: the flags? They're up for this. Don't sleep on the flags.
Speaker 1: This is going to skyrocket. This has the potential to
Speaker 1: skyrocket the profile of one of the emojs, so Cam
Speaker 1: Payne publicists. We have the next category, Best emotion to portray.
Speaker 1: This is so specific because it's not the best emotion.
Speaker 1: It is best emotion to portray two your fans, two friends,
Speaker 1: those watching you. Best emotion to portray amazing. We have
Speaker 1: a next category. We have a We have a chunk
Speaker 1: of categories that I think will be very important. Absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: can I announce this one? Yes, We're almost done with
Speaker 1: with these announcements, by the way. Best animal on the farm.
Speaker 1: You know them, you love them. They're on the farm,
Speaker 1: They've been on the farm, They've been waiting for this moment.
Speaker 1: You might even see them in a petting zoo and
Speaker 1: only one will win. E I E I oh E
Speaker 1: I E I O E G O T L C
Speaker 1: C A more like what I mean? What did you spell?
Speaker 1: E I E got lost culture? Oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1: We have a next category, Best animal in the forest.
Speaker 1: You might be seeing this one up in the tree
Speaker 1: on the ground, hiding in the leaves and the bushes,
Speaker 1: eating a mushroom. All the critters, critters the house down,
Speaker 1: or should I say the forest wide, the forest wide?
Speaker 1: They can it be tall and this is this is
Speaker 1: deciduous forest. This can be rainforest. This can be anywhere
Speaker 1: with a cluster of trees. Us girls, conniferus girl, step
Speaker 1: to the front. Best animal in the forest, best animal
Speaker 1: in the sea. First of all, can we say one
Speaker 1: of the biggest entities is our and we actually was
Speaker 1: it was. It was a moment of culture, our nation's notions,
Speaker 1: the exploration of our oceans. And this takes even deeper
Speaker 1: dive if you will, and ask who is the greatest
Speaker 1: best animal in the sea. Mhm m hmm. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think this will be a peaceful category. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people will be hurts. A lot
Speaker 1: of animals will be hurt. And haven't they been hurt enough?
Speaker 1: Apparently not? Apparently not. But you better campaign if you
Speaker 1: want what's right to end up being the outcome. Animals
Speaker 1: include mammals, fish, reptiles, reptiles, amphibians. We have an next category.
Speaker 1: This is upsetting. But it's your turn to announce best Billionaire.
Speaker 1: You know, they are a category of human being and
Speaker 1: we we are we are a culture podcast. We're rewarding
Speaker 1: things to everything in the culture. Billionaires are in the culture,
Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. We're rewarding this award
Speaker 1: to the best one, best one meaning not necessarily nicest person,
Speaker 1: best billionaire who walks the walk of being a billionaire
Speaker 1: the most because because and now it's very hard, because
Speaker 1: they're all sort of blending together there. They're all doing
Speaker 1: the same things. They're all going to space, they're all starting,
Speaker 1: you know, uh to to to see the same trainer.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's we need someone who stands out
Speaker 1: as a billionaire. Which one should be uplifted on the
Speaker 1: podcast last culture and publicists, readers, you might have to
Speaker 1: start campaigning for a billionaire and I bet you never
Speaker 1: thought you'd have to do that in your life. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to hear come up with We have an next category.
Speaker 1: It is your turn. Best planet. You might not limit
Speaker 1: in our in our solar system. This can be in
Speaker 1: the Kepular system. This can be in other systems. Another
Speaker 1: another star, you know, at a in a binary star system.
Speaker 1: It could be a star Wars planet. It could be Avatar.
Speaker 1: It could be a little Prince planet, you know the plants.
Speaker 1: It can be Mormonism planet. It can be it can
Speaker 1: be a lot avatar. You said it could be Earth.
Speaker 1: It could be Earth. It could be Earth. It could
Speaker 1: be Earth. We'd be willing to hear arguments. Megan Bone
Speaker 1: and I what happened to Abbey Oh? Um, I guess
Speaker 1: she's still around and producing. I guess I just forgot
Speaker 1: about her. We haven't heard herm in a while, and
Speaker 1: it feels like Megan's really drowned out. Megan McCain. We
Speaker 1: should remind you. It's too bad. We have an next category,
Speaker 1: Best Teacher we Ever had parentheses Teacher Respect Award. This
Speaker 1: is now who is we best teacher we ever had?
Speaker 1: Teacher Respect Award? Thank you you answered my question. We
Speaker 1: the royal we best teacher we ever ever had? Again,
Speaker 1: it's not up to me necessarily. I'm just willing to
Speaker 1: hear campaigns. I want the publics to sort of do
Speaker 1: their work in deciding what this is best teacher we
Speaker 1: ever had? Teacher Respect Award. Thank you. This is an
Speaker 1: opportunity to really lift someone up. Wendy Williams is up
Speaker 1: for this category. She is up for this. If you
Speaker 1: think they're up for it, they've all taught. They've all taught.
Speaker 1: We have one more category to announce. And here, let
Speaker 1: me just do a quick count on how many categories
Speaker 1: this is. We've only we've only told you seventy two categories.
Speaker 1: So that is that is like a little less than
Speaker 1: a third, and so there are many more. Yes, we
Speaker 1: might not get I think maybe we'll do. We'll do so.
Speaker 1: Other categories will be announced very soon. Just understand, before
Speaker 1: we do the Cultural Awards, we'll have announced the next categories.
Speaker 1: We only got to seventy two. We have a last category,
Speaker 1: Most colorful color. This is for a color that is
Speaker 1: the most color I, for one, can't wait to hear
Speaker 1: the readers discuss and dissect the colors to find out
Speaker 1: which one of them it stands up, head and shoulders
Speaker 1: above the rest as the most colorful color of them all. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be a thing where it's, oh,
Speaker 1: it's black, because it's every color. You know. Don't get fresh,
Speaker 1: don't get fresh and clever. We don't like that, you
Speaker 1: don't like that, you you have to do. I want
Speaker 1: to see spirited debate on what the most colorful color is.
Speaker 1: And please, first of all, black and white and gray
Speaker 1: are shades. And you're not gonna you're not gonna come
Speaker 1: fool us. Mhm. Those are the seventy two categories thus far.
Speaker 1: There will be twenty eight more categories to create the
Speaker 1: one hundred categories. In the last Culture Such Culture Awards
Speaker 1: the first I am I for one of them. Thrilled
Speaker 1: because you know, because I because I like that. This
Speaker 1: is a campaign. This is there will be upsets, there
Speaker 1: will be drama, There's gonna be engagement, and I want
Speaker 1: to see the readers interact with us. This is a
Speaker 1: dialogue top Georgic moments of culture. History was just us
Speaker 1: kind of communicating what the moments were. Yeah, twelve Days
Speaker 1: of Culture was us kind of like, you know, doing
Speaker 1: something similar. This is an opportunity, as Matt has said
Speaker 1: many times, to lift someone up. This is the opportunity
Speaker 1: for readers to be publicists, to campaign. This is how
Speaker 1: it works in the awards and just in the circuits.
Speaker 1: This is a glimpse in to how things work in
Speaker 1: the circuit. And if you're a silent someone might not
Speaker 1: get an award. And that is the worst thing that
Speaker 1: could possibly happen to someone, And there's life to someone,
Speaker 1: or some fish in the sea or some animal in
Speaker 1: the forest, to go unrewarded their entire life. Fate worse
Speaker 1: than death, worse than death, gets a thinking, Well, I
Speaker 1: don't think I think this week, we don't do anything.
Speaker 1: I had one. You just don't want to do it
Speaker 1: because you don't have one. I want to do mine, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: and then I'll do one. That's bad. All right, Um,
Speaker 1: here we go. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: People taking pictures with their tongue out like this, oh
Speaker 1: to this to the side, Well, can you tell everybody
Speaker 1: what you just did? I just did to the side.
Speaker 1: I also don't like or this. Get your tongue in
Speaker 1: your mouth, show us your teeth or your smile without teeth,
Speaker 1: which is also called grin, I believe, or maybe work
Speaker 1: a smize. I don't want to see your tongue. Everyone
Speaker 1: that goes default to stick in their tongue out in
Speaker 1: the picture. I know you. I've seen your your cuter
Speaker 1: without sticking your tongue out. If you think that you
Speaker 1: are better looking with your tongue out of your mouth
Speaker 1: than it is in your mouth. I have objective news
Speaker 1: for you. You are not. It's not cute, it's not funny,
Speaker 1: especially in the age of COVID getting your tongue in
Speaker 1: your mouth. Flop just or flop in the clown square
Speaker 1: tongue in elf. Now, I'm not watching that. I'm not
Speaker 1: watching that. Get the tongue out of the mouth. I'm
Speaker 1: not watching and that get the tongue in the mouth.
Speaker 1: I've just had it. I've had enough. And I see
Speaker 1: people that I'm close to doing it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this insecurity? Then just don't smile at all.
Speaker 1: But I'd rather see you give a stoic look into
Speaker 1: the camera like this, then the tongue out. Wow. Gross,
Speaker 1: that are hopping a time machine into twenty And tell
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus before she goes on stage at the v
Speaker 1: m as to keep it in sweetie. If I did
Speaker 1: have a time machine, it's the first thing I would do.
Speaker 1: Say that. But this it's not time for your I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Are you ready, fish fish, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: Mrs Bowen Yanks, I don't think so. Honey, his time
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Being in a
Speaker 1: creative ruts okay, I have been telling myself the story
Speaker 1: for too long that I've been in a rut. And
Speaker 1: then all I had to do the other night was
Speaker 1: put on some tea, put a little bit of fun
Speaker 1: music on, and then as as long as I sat
Speaker 1: at a desk with my phone off, I was a
Speaker 1: fucking font of creativity. And I was like, I haven't
Speaker 1: felt this way in literal years. And I enjoyed myself
Speaker 1: a great deal. And now I think I've really kind
Speaker 1: of art acted. And everyone should read The Creative Habit
Speaker 1: by Twilight Tharpe, because I remember this is what she
Speaker 1: talks about. You just have to set aside the time.
Speaker 1: And it's not even about whether or not you're in
Speaker 1: a rut. It's about because that is a self fulfilling
Speaker 1: prophecy that you will fail creatively no matter what. You
Speaker 1: just have to build the time in your schedule. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying anything new, but this is this is a
Speaker 1: truth that bears repeating. Just set aside the time, and girl,
Speaker 1: you're gonna write the next to Damn king Lear and
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be the pandemic, because we're still in
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and that's what I'm gonna come on, Charles Dickens,
Speaker 1: you also were sort of talking about scarcity mindset, which
Speaker 1: our own part of it, The Shallow told us about
Speaker 1: when you sit there and think I'm not able to create,
Speaker 1: I'm not able to create. I'm not able to create.
Speaker 1: You are fixating on the lack of creation and that
Speaker 1: is a trap. And I would say that you you have.
Speaker 1: We've both seen each other in this mindset today, step
Speaker 1: off the pod, separate conversations. We've both really kind of
Speaker 1: like been stuck in that mindset, haven't we. I would
Speaker 1: say that you're talking to me earlier about something and
Speaker 1: I was like, it's hey, you you know you will,
Speaker 1: you will succeed. There's one thing I do in my
Speaker 1: life where I get tripped up every time I think
Speaker 1: about it because I wonder what if it's bad, what
Speaker 1: if it's bad, what if it's bad? And it's weird
Speaker 1: because it's not really who I am in any other aspect,
Speaker 1: but it's just a project that matters a lot to me,
Speaker 1: So I don't want to mess it up. So I
Speaker 1: get that, But you are right there. It is a
Speaker 1: uh cyclical thing where I'm like fixated on the what
Speaker 1: if I fail aspect of this one thing and that
Speaker 1: I know of life and I'm not good at bar
Speaker 1: of It's not useful, not useful. And I'm happy that
Speaker 1: you put that tea on and things turned around. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it was lovely. Well, it's been a long episode and
Speaker 1: I don't want to overload and have it burst at
Speaker 1: the seams for the reader because we've been getting complaints
Speaker 1: and not that I care about the complaints. Don't care
Speaker 1: at her that we've been going long. Actually, you know,
Speaker 1: ever since have I told you? Ever since we watched
Speaker 1: all those Gwyneth Paltrow videos on Fire Island of her
Speaker 1: like not giving a shit about being in the Avengers movies,
Speaker 1: being like I haven't seen any of them. Sorry, Like
Speaker 1: that's really changed. I've talked about this in therapy, Like
Speaker 1: it's really been a shift for me to be like
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't have to care about something
Speaker 1: unless I should. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm happy
Speaker 1: that Gwyneth Paltrow unlocked that for somehow Goop came up
Speaker 1: and then study was with us that day and she
Speaker 1: was like, did you guys read that New Yorker interview
Speaker 1: with her where she was like, yeah, people make fun
Speaker 1: of Goop for being for like rich women, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, so you can't Like I'm like, I don't like,
Speaker 1: I'm like I don't agree with that, like with like
Speaker 1: what she's like saying necessary. But I love that attitude
Speaker 1: a lot, just like I don't care that you're making
Speaker 1: fun of this thing that I do because it's you're
Speaker 1: just saying what it is. Like I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that is like such a helpful mindset to be. Like no,
Speaker 1: like I reject the the like the connotation you're putting
Speaker 1: behind what I do when it's literally like the intention anyway,
Speaker 1: It's like this is such a jump. But whenever, whenever, whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever anyone tells you as a comedian, like I'll tell
Speaker 1: us like all of our comedian friends who are like
Speaker 1: who like get like rightfully like tripped up about you know,
Speaker 1: fucking comedy Central comments on Instagram being like this person
Speaker 1: is gay. It's like, yeah, that's a gay pert, that's
Speaker 1: a gay person doing comedy. It's starry started to be
Speaker 1: start to be Ellen on time. Yep, I'm gay but
Speaker 1: it's like it's it literally is like I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: who cares anyway. So that's to say that these episodes
Speaker 1: will be long as heavy because they're long, because they're
Speaker 1: they're a long. They're long. It's a long podcast and
Speaker 1: you only have to listen to a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much readers for going on this for camp,
Speaker 1: for officially joining us on this campaign for the Lost
Speaker 1: cultusa's Culture Awards, And um, I think that there is
Speaker 1: a certain song that I want to sing that sort
Speaker 1: of is gonna be the theme song of the Cultural
Speaker 1: Awards and it goes back to Doug's favorite recording artists.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, I got by rong Ron hear
Speaker 1: me r to hear more of that song. Listen to
Speaker 1: the last culturesta's Culture World episodes upcoming this summer, because
Speaker 1: that will be the theme song and it will be
Speaker 1: a new recorded version of it by me and Bowen
Speaker 1: and we'll figure out how to do that later. Bowen
Speaker 1: has not signed up on that. Bye