1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. I'm Katie Couric and this is next question. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, when I was getting ready to interview the 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: actor Adam Scott, I wasn't sure what I was in for. 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about him. Of course I 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: recognized him from a lot of different roles, but I 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: really didn't know what to expect, and I have to 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: admit I ended up really really liking Adam Scott. Hello, Adam, Hi. Hi, 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: it's Katie. Hi. I learned a lot about him during 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: the course of our conversation. That I would have loved 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: his mom, That he lives close to the house we've 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: been rinding in LA for the past couple of months. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: That he loves building forts. You're going to think it's 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: really weird, but I'm doing this under a blanket because 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: this room is super echoey. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't mind. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Let's just pretend like we're in a fort that we 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: made as kids. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: I love it. I love forts, and I love cozy its, 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: and it's cozy and fort like. 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: And that nothing was going to stop him from becoming 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: an actor, even though he may do with bit parts 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: scraping a living together for fifteen years. Nevertheless, he persisted. 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: You look back and you're like, oh my god, I 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: was nowhere. 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: Ironically, after wanting to break into Hollywood for so long, 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: the first big acting gig he got was playing a 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood want to be stuck in a dead end catering 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: job and the now cult favorite show Party Down. Were 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: you were you that guy? 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it was you were You. 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Were totally that guy. That is bananas. 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: I remember that. I remember you. Yeah, what are you 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: doing working here? Well? 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: You remember me from anything else? Spoiler alert. It works 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: out for our dear Adam. He has starred in some 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: truly vengeable TV, from Parks and rec to Big Little 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Eyes to now Front and Center in a new series 38 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: called Severance. 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Mark S and I have of 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: my own free accord, elected to undergo the procedure known 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: as Severance. 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: We get into the show, Adam's scrappy beginnings, that magnificent quoth, 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: and much more. I hope you enjoy our chat as 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: much as I did. I'm excited to talk about Severance because, 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: oh cool. When I first saw billboards advertising your new 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: show on Apple TV, I thought, Wow, that is really 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: extraordinary timing. Here we are on the heels of a 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: pandemic that has left so many people of all ages 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: rethinking the workplace, rethinking, you know, what we want to 50 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: do with our lives. There's the Great Resignation, which other 51 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: people have called the Great Reset. But it seems almost 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: uncanny that this show is coming out at this moment. 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Was it complete serendipity or was it did you foresee 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: something happening in the culture. 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: It was complete serendipity. I mean the show was written 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: pre pandemic, and we were going to start shooting April 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and had to delay, you know, obviously 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: for seven months and started that. We started shooting the 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: day after the election in November twenty twenty, and so 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: we were shooting right in the heart of pre vaccine 61 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: New York pandemic. It was, as everyone knows, it was 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: a crazy time. And so no, I think it was 63 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: complete serendipity. But you know, Dan Ericson the creator and writer, 64 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: and Ben Stiller, the director and executive producer, you know, 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: kind of the creative forces really behind the show, you know, 66 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: as serendipitous, but I think also the the kind of 67 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: everything we're feeling right now and kind of the result 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: of everything that's happened the past couple of years. You know, 69 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: you have to think that the seeds of this have 70 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: been planted for some time. It's just we were accelerated, Yeah, 71 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: for the past couple of years. 72 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. I think you're so right. I think 73 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: millennials and now gen z people, I don't know gen 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: z ers. I think this sort of restlessness and this 75 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: questioning of career tracks and the idea. I remember giving 76 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: a commencement address and saying most millennials will change jobs 77 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: and average of fourteen times in their lifetime, you know. 78 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen this slow shift from people 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: who work for one company their entire lives, retire with 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: the of old watch a lunch and a pension, and 81 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: this very different view of work and priorities. So I 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: think you're right. Everything accelerated. I think all these pre 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: existing trends accelerated during the pandemic. But while you were 84 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: shooting it, did you sort of feel like this feels 85 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: very of the moment. We've kind of captured lightning in 86 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: a bottle in terms of some of the themes that 87 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: this show presents. 88 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: You know, it was tough to see the forest for 89 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: the trees while we were shooting because it was such 90 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: a gargantuan task in front of us, in front of you. 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: I remember Amy Poehler used to call it being at 92 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: the bottom of show mountain when you're just starting a 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: new show that no one knows what it is, so 94 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: there's no definition to it, and you're at the bottom 95 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: of the mountain when you know when you're at episode 96 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: one of hopefully as many as possible, but you have 97 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: to shoot the show, but you also have to construct 98 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: and define it, find the tone, all of those things 99 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: that make a show work. You have to sort of 100 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: figure it out as you're doing it, because there's no 101 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: really knowing what it's going to be, what it's going 102 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: to feel like until those cameras are rolling and you 103 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: have everyone in the room doing it, and so it 104 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: is like being at the bottom of a mountain. And 105 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: that's how it felt. And for me, never having been 106 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: at the center of something quite so big and challenging, 107 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: I just was, you know, day to going, trying to 108 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: just jump from one lily pad to the next, keeping 109 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: up with the work and. 110 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Under these extraordinary circumstances in the middle of COVID, where 111 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: you guys were probably being tested on a regular basis, 112 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and having to keep your distance and wear masks when 113 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: you're not you know, when they don't say action. I 114 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: mean that that must have been really tough. 115 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: It was really interesting. And the isolation of it what 116 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: you just said, they you know, the moment they called cut, 117 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: putting a mask and a shield up in front of 118 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: your face. We never even saw the cruise faces for 119 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: the ten months we're working on the show. And then 120 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: also you go home, and I was away from my family. 121 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: I was in New York, so I live in Los Angeles, 122 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: so I was by myself in an apartment in New York. 123 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: And pre vaccine, New York was, especially in the fall 124 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, was pretty lockdown. It was pretty and 125 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: it was pretty eary. 126 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: As somebody who lives in the city too, you know, 127 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: you would walk out on Park Avenue and in the 128 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: middle of the day and there it was empty, no cars. 129 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it was like a movie. 130 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: I know, it was crazy. It was like a mid 131 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: nineties like Wolfgang Peterson movie or something. So so yeah, 132 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: I would shoot the show for twelve hours or whatever, 133 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 2: get in a van, go back to the apartment, eat, sleep, 134 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: wake up, get in a van, go to the show, 135 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 2: and the show was this kind of stark, isolated, strange environment, 136 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: and so it was very severance, like my kind of 137 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: existence parallel to the show. 138 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: It was. 139 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: It was very very strange, and I was, you know, 140 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: grappling with a loss in my life and alone for 141 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: the first time in six months after this intent time 142 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: with family, you know, like we all did, we really 143 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: buckled down. I buckled down with my two kids and 144 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: my wife for six months and had this extraordinary time 145 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: together and then to suddenly just be boom, You're by yourself, 146 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: uh uh, in a in a in the city and working, 147 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: and you know, it was a it was like slamming 148 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: the brakes on and then getting into a car you've 149 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: never driven before and trying to figure it out. That's 150 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: a metaphor that I'm not going to keep following. 151 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I was so excited to see your your mug on 152 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: the billboard and that pretty serious head of hair of yours, 153 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: although it was kind of slicked down in the billboard. 154 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not obsessed with hair. Your hair just happens to 155 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: look lovely today, Oh, thank you very much, very fresh 156 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and maybe just washed. But anyway, you know, tell me 157 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: about the plot a little bit about your character the 158 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: show and how this whole idea was turned into I 159 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: guess what I would describe as a psychological thriller of sorts. 160 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I think that's right. I 161 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: think it's a bunch of different things, kind of there's 162 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: a few balls that are in the air with the show, 163 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: and I think that's what really kind of got Ben 164 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: really Ben still really interested in it. It is that 165 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: it has this sort of this the entry into the 166 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: story sort of feels workplace, like a fun workplace comedy 167 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: in a way, like office space or the officer parks 168 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: and rec even this sort of light, fun bantery way in, 169 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: and then you sort of sense that there's something a 170 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: little more sinister maybe lurking underneath, and then you kind 171 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: of realize that this is this fun office vibe that 172 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: involves people who have no idea what they're doing there 173 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: or who they are. Yeah. I mean the conceit of 174 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: the show is that we live in a time where 175 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: there's this technology where you can get a chip inserted 176 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: into your brain that bifurcates your memories. So when you 177 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: go to work, once you cross the threshold of your workplace, 178 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: you lose all of your memory of who you are 179 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: in the outside world, and your entire life and perspective 180 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: on your life is there at work, and so that 181 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: is who you are. And then when you leave at 182 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: the end of the day and cross that threshold once again, 183 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: something is triggered in the chip in your brain and 184 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: you have no access to the memories of what just 185 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: happened at work, and you have no idea actually what 186 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: your job even is. You just live in the outside world. 187 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: So the idea is you can completely focus on your 188 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: personal life and then you can completely focus on your 189 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: job and never the twain shall meet. And so the 190 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: work life balance is finally solved. There is a complete 191 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: balance in the work life conundrum. 192 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: So I'll never leave here. 193 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: You'll leave it five well, actually they stagger exits, so 194 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: five point fifteen. But it won't feel like it, not 195 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: to this version of you anyway. Do you have a family, 196 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: You'll never know. 197 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: I have no choice. 198 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, every time you find yourself here, it's because you 199 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: chose to come back. 200 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: And tell us about the character you play. By the way, 201 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like Office Space meets Black Mirror. 202 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, I think Twilight Zone and Black 203 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: Mirror are certainly touchstones as a fan. When I first 204 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: read the scripts, that's the stuff that I love watching 205 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: and have since. Twilight Zone was a huge thing for 206 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: me as a kid, and so reading it, I you know, 207 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: it was something that I would want to watch as 208 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: an audience member. Yeah, my character Mark is in the 209 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: outside world. A couple of years ago he lost his 210 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: wife and you know, two and it's been two and 211 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: a half years and he is not doing well. He's 212 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: not moving on, and a couple of years ago decided 213 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: to get severed because he just didn't want to feel 214 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: this pain twenty four hours a day so he can 215 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: wake up in the morning, have breakfast, drive to work, 216 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: and then boom, he's leaving work and getting his car, 217 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: driving home, eating and going to sleep. That's his life. 218 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to feel anything for eight to ten 219 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: hours a day. And I think also part of his 220 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: reasoning for this is that this grief and this pain 221 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: is in a way all he has left of his wife, 222 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: and he's that's, you know, whether consciously or not, why 223 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: he's grasping onto this and holding onto it, why he 224 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: doesn't want to move on, is because this is what 225 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: he has and being able to check out for most 226 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: of most of the day is a way of holding 227 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: on to it while not having to necessarily deal with 228 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: or feel it. 229 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: Interesting And do you think it's a metaphor for how 230 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: sort of unhealthily entwined our personal lives have become with 231 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: our work lives. In other words, the constant connectivity thanks 232 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: to technology has made it really difficult for us to 233 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: have what was for so long considered our two separate lives. 234 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: You know, even for me when I started out in 235 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: television news, I would go to work, I would come home, 236 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: and that was time with my family. Now I had 237 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: to do homework, you know, the night before, which was delivered. 238 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: It sounds so quaint in an envelope with actual you know, 239 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: papers and xeroxys and articles. Yeah, and Manila folders and 240 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: all that jazz. But I still felt that when I 241 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: was not physically at work, I wasn't thinking about work 242 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. And now the lines have been 243 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: so blurred. So it is sort of this part of 244 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the solution for that all encompassing professional side that we 245 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: now have. 246 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, so, I guess that's the that's the idea. Yeah, 247 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean I know that it's it sounds great to 248 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: be able to sever the two things because I always 249 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: pictured that as well. I always pictured once my professional 250 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: life got anywhere and I had any traction or any stability, 251 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: and especially once I started we started a family that 252 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: I would work and then come home and honey, I'm 253 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: home and she has them. 254 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Martini and your bedroom slippers. 255 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: And exactly like mad Men or something. You know, that's 256 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: sort of what you always picture. But by the time 257 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: it happened for me, there was no you know, you 258 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: walk through the door and there's a buzzing in your 259 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: pocket and you know it's twenty four seven. There really 260 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: is no stopping. No matter what you're doing for a living, 261 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: you have to really draw the line for yourself and 262 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: if you want that separation, you have to put it 263 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: in a drawer. But then, you know, if you're not 264 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: reachable for two hours, uh, you know, people think there's 265 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: something going on, there's something wrong, and it's it's now 266 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: unusual to just be unresponsive for a certain amount of time. 267 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: It is a strange a strange, strange time. And certainly, 268 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: you know, like you were saying earlier, how it almost 269 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 2: feels like the pandemic or lockdown or whatever sort of 270 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: accelerated what what what was already happening with the gig 271 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: economy and and and and all of that. Yeah, it's 272 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: a strange I mean what you were talking about with 273 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: I would assume with the Today Show when you would 274 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: come home and get to be with your family and 275 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: then get that that big packet of homework that must 276 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: have been you know, it's it's sounds like it sounds exhausting, 277 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: but there is something really comforting about it now and 278 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: sort of straightforward about this is what you have to 279 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: do for tomorrow and that's what it is, and you're 280 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: not going to be bothered and this is this isn't 281 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: all going to be turned upside down and changed right 282 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: and changed, I mean, unless there's some big worries right. 283 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Right, there's a big news story. But it's funny because 284 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, I always remind myself that iPhones didn't come 285 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: out till two thousand and eight, and so all through 286 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: the nineties and the early two thousands, you know, I 287 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: could be with my kids at the park without an eruption. 288 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at my phone, you know, Flip phones 289 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: were just kind of coming out then, and I could 290 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: be so much more present. And I remember reading that 291 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, when they were married, had 292 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a house rule that they wouldn't answer the phone between 293 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: five and eight, which is so funny now when you 294 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: think about it, because people don't even have landlines anymore, 295 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: and now we're all addicted to our phones and to 296 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: be able to be away from it for three hours 297 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: is almost a herculean feet So it's just crazy how 298 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: it's it's almost how much this new way of living 299 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: has slowly, and I would say malevolently, seeped into our 300 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: our very beans, you know, and I don't think for 301 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: the better. Coming up, Adam's aha moment, done du dun 302 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: dune done du duh. Oh that sounded bad. Right after this, 303 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to take a moment because I know you're 304 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: from Santa Cruz, Adam, and I'm just curious. I always 305 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: love to hear people's origin stories, and I'm curious how 306 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: you got bitten by the acting bug in the first place, 307 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and how you found yourself on this Thespian road, if 308 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: you will. 309 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Thespian Avenue actor lane. Yeah, yeah, you know. 310 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: I think it was really pretty simple. And maybe shallow 311 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: but or not shallow. But I think it was pretty simple, 312 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: which was I was always sort of interested. But then 313 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: I saw Raiders of the Lost Art, and I think 314 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: it was right at the age because it came out 315 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: in what eighty one eighty two, and so I was 316 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 2: eight nine years old. I remember seeing that movie. I 317 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: remember getting back to my friend's house and rushing to 318 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: a phone, to a landline and calling my mom because 319 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: I had to unload all these feelings because I had 320 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: just seen something and nothing would ever be the same again. 321 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: This movie didn't stop. It was just fun all the 322 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: way through, and it was hilarious. And you know, you 323 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: watch that movie now and there are jokes, not just 324 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: like funny as sides, there are jokes and good ones 325 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: and and I just it just blew my mind. And 326 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, you know back then, you know, I went 327 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: to see that movie so so many times, and I 328 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: still love it and have to watch it a couple 329 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: times a year. But I think that was the beginning 330 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: of I say simple because it was as simple as 331 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: I want to do that, that looks like, there's what 332 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: else would you could you possibly want to do the 333 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: other than that? 334 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Then the Harrison Ford. 335 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Jesus, that looks great. 336 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: I mean talk about getting the girls. 337 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, getting the girls, getting to Jesus dirty. You're jumping 338 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: from one thing to the other, smarter than everyone else, 339 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: making mistakes but then making up for it. He's a 340 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: flawed guy. He also was a professor. My dad was 341 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: a professor, so there was a lot of that too. 342 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: Like I saw my dad and him. I still do 343 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: when I watch any Harrison Ford thing, I feel I 344 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: kind of see my dad in that. But the professor, 345 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: the college professor, which is what my dad was before 346 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: he retired. And so so it was just the perfect 347 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: recipe for me and millions of others. I mean, obviously 348 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: it was this phenomenon and then Temple of Doom. Maybe 349 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: I may even like that more. I just love of 350 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: that too. So that was kind of the start of it. 351 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: And it was just like the secret I harbored for 352 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: years and years that this is what I wanted to do, 353 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: but I was embarrassed by it, so I never really 354 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: told anyone that this is what I planned on doing 355 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: until years and years later. But that was the that 356 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: was kind of the start of it. It was Raiders. 357 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing isn't it how one film can be so transformative? 358 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, which is I think the beauty of all 359 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: different kinds of art forms, whether it's a book or 360 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: a movie or a piece of art anyway. But so, yeah, 361 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: when did you start for real pursuing this career. Did 362 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you do dinner theater? 363 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Adam, No, but I've been to the dinner theater and 364 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: that's an experience actually getting like, you know, baked Alaska 365 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: while you're watching Dames at Sea? Like what else? What 366 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: else could you ask for? I I did the you know, 367 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: theater in high school and and all of that, and 368 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: then and then went to acting school after that. You know, 369 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: when I was like a junior in high school, I 370 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: finally kind of said I think I can do this. 371 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: And there was sort of a social stigma of being 372 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: a theater person at my high school, so I didn't 373 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: really want to commit fully, but but then did and 374 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: and sort of let it out there that this is 375 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: something I want to pursue. And went to acting school 376 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: after high school and in Pasadena, California is where the 377 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: acting school was, and I was in ninety one. I 378 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: came down here and went to the school for a 379 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: couple of years and then came here to Hollywood in 380 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: ninety fall of ninety three and just started, you know, 381 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: doing extra work and our background and scrounging around for auditions, 382 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: just doing anything I could, you know. 383 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I've been in LA for a 384 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: couple of months and it's made me think of, you know, 385 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry a lot, and being an actor must 386 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: prey on every insecurity you have. And it no wonder 387 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: so many of the kids who who have fame early 388 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: on in their lives are so screwed up later. I mean, 389 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: it is, It is really destabilizing. How do you handle 390 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: kind of the uncertainty and the really I guess capriciousness. I'm, 391 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: by the way, very impressed by my vocabulary during this 392 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: podcast me. 393 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: Too, excellent, Thank you, But I wouldn't expect anything less. 394 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm pulling out all the I'm pulling out all the 395 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: saft words today for some reason. But you know, how 396 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: do you handle the uncertainty of being an actor? And 397 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, always kind of now that I've made you 398 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: probably start getting pitted out by even discussing this, but 399 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of where your next role is going to 400 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: come from? 401 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sort of thing never goes away. I mean 402 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think back to starting out, 403 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: you know, kind of hustling for roles and stuff, trying 404 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: to piece something together and fall of ninety three, so 405 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: I was, I was, you know, I auditioned for Scream 406 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: and Scream too, and I know what you did last 407 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: summer and all of that. I was around for all 408 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: of that stuff and didn't get any of it. And 409 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: like I was, you know, went on thousands of auditions 410 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: and was rejected thousands of times and made my living 411 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: doing like guest spots and stuff and cobbling something together. 412 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: But it wasn't until fifteen years in that I even 413 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: started to get real traction. But had kind of diluted 414 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: myself and too, thinking that I was getting traction all 415 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 2: the way just to keep going. But then once you 416 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: actually get traction, you look back and you're like, oh 417 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: my god, I was nowhere and the people that loved 418 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: me were so generous by kind of being, you know, 419 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: helping keep me afloat with that delusion all along, or 420 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: you know, so anyway. 421 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: So you just kind of delude that's how you kept going. 422 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: Because I imagine there are many of people who come to Hollywood, 423 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: you know, hoping to be discovered at the soda Fountain, 424 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, or you know, just having one perceptive soul 425 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: in a casting in an audition see something in you, 426 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: or that's right, kind of give you your first big break. 427 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: But so many people just never get that and that's right, 428 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: you know. And so it sounds like you deluded yourself initially. 429 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: But is that? Is that how you kept going? You 430 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: kept you kept just saying, well, I'm kind of all 431 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: that right now, and I'm just going to kind of 432 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: build on this or what other things kept you from saying, 433 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to go to business school or 434 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to get in the business 435 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: side of the industry because this is for the birds. 436 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: There was something, yeah, I mean there was something that 437 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: I always sort of felt I had that and doubted 438 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: over and over and over again and gave up on 439 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: over and over again. But something I felt like I 440 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: still kind of had to offer no matter what. And 441 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: I don't know how I kept believing in that because 442 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: there were so many times where any logical person would 443 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: have abandoned it. But I think there was a lack 444 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: of other options because I, like I said, from Raiders 445 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: of the Lost Dark, never wanted to do or even 446 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: thought about doing anything else. So I hadn't nurtured any 447 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: other real interests or skills, and. 448 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: So if you didn't make it as an actor, you 449 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: were kind of hosed at him. 450 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: I think, I think you're right. I think that's you're 451 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: hitting the nail on the head, which is why it's 452 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: been terrifying and still is terrifying. You know, you never know. 453 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: You know, Also, as I was, you know, going through 454 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: the nineties and stuff, and I did see a lot 455 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: of people get discovered at the Soda Fountain and get 456 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: this big flush of fame and attention or get that 457 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: plumb role in this or that, and then you see 458 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: them disappear. I've seen so, you know, I've been here 459 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: almost thirty years. I've seen so many people come and go. 460 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: I've seen people come and stick the landing and know 461 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 2: what to do with it. Like you see Matt Damon, right, 462 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: what would he's you know, he's someone that I used 463 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: to see on auditions and and then you see him 464 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: know exactly what to do and how to do it. 465 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: But then for every one of him, there's a hundred 466 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: others that just kind of come and go, and I'm 467 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: so glad I didn't get scream or I know what 468 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: you did last summer, because I would have sucked, or 469 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: I would have not been ready and not known what 470 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: to do with the opportunity and made stupid decisions. So 471 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's kind of a puzzle. 472 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you real quick about some of 473 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: your favorite roles because it seems that you've done, you know, 474 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: a real variety. Adam, tell me about some of the 475 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: highlights that when you look back, you're like, Wow, that 476 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: was just that was just perfect. You know. 477 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been super lucky and that I I do 478 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: have several of those. I can look back on it 479 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: with so fondly. For such a tough business, sometimes I've 480 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: landed in several spots where it's just been terrific and 481 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: so much fun. And I certainly attribute that to luck 482 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: more than anything, like you were saying, luck plays a 483 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: huge part, and I've certainly been lucky. 484 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: You know. 485 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: I think that something that really turned it around for 486 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: me just internally was Party Down, which was a show 487 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: I just did with my friends. Right. It wasn't for 488 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: career reasons. I don't think my representatives were particularly interested 489 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: in me doing this. It didn't seem to have any 490 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: advantages at the time, and it was simply because I 491 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: wasn't able to get anything else, and my friends were like, hey, 492 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: how about we just do this, and it seemed fun, 493 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: and so so I did it and it was fun. 494 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: It was the most fun, and that really makes a 495 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 2: difference in what you push then push out into the 496 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: world that you're all enjoying yourselves, you know, and and 497 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: sort of discovering this fun thing together, which is what 498 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: we were all doing on that show, and feeling like, 499 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: probably no one will ever see this, so let's just 500 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: do it for us and each other and have a blast. 501 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: And that's what we did, and then got to do 502 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: twenty of them two seasons, and then eventually years later 503 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: people did catch onto it and found this audience, and 504 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: so that was sort of the reason I say it 505 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: was sort of I don't know if I said it 506 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 2: was a game changer, but it sort of was just 507 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: internally because I felt like, oh, this can be super enjoyable, 508 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: and that makes a big difference in what I put 509 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: out there in my work. When I watched it, I 510 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: can tell that's better because I'm having a lot of 511 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: fun and just sort of letting myself have a lot 512 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: of fun. So that and then Parks sort of came 513 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: out of that, Parks and rec and that was another 514 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: example of this is a terrific, lovely group of people. 515 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: And we became fast friends. And that was five years 516 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: I was doing that, and it was, you know, driving 517 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 2: to work every day with your friends and doing silly 518 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: things and heart felt lovely things as well. That was 519 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: a really beautifully written show and character and everything. And 520 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: so I think with those experiences it kind of set 521 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: a new blueprint for me as far as what I 522 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: should do. And it was a good lesson, like do 523 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: something that is fun and that you would want to watch. 524 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: And that has never really failed me. Not that I've 525 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: always done that. I've certainly done things for other reasons, 526 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: but it usually works out for me when when those 527 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: are the components. See, not everybody gets along, Nathan, I mean, 528 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: can't we just be comfortable not liking each other. It 529 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be a reason. 530 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: Of course. You also, I know Adam played the slightly 531 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: loserish husband of Reese Witherspoon in Big Little Lies, which 532 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: must have been an interesting experience working with all those 533 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: strong women, right, yeah. 534 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: It was incredible, And that was something I Parks and 535 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: RecA just ended and I wanted to try and do 536 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: something a little more dramatic or whatever, and and really 537 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: sought that out and and went and and auditioned a 538 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: few times. I really wanted to do that, and really 539 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: had wanted to do anything with Reese for years and 540 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 2: years and was so excited to to to land that 541 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: and get and get to do that. And it took 542 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: place in Monterey, which is right next to Santa Cruz, 543 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: and so I kind of felt a little connected to 544 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: it geographically, and uh yeah, and getting to work with 545 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 2: those incredible women was was was an experience as well. 546 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: They're also so talented and uh and smart and so 547 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: smart and cool. It was really it was really a great. 548 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: Experience speaking of strong women. When we come back, Adam 549 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: talks about his incredible mom and the weight of losing 550 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: a parent before we go, I want to want to 551 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: talk about your mom. First of all. I know you 552 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: lost your mom, I believe Adam in twenty was it 553 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 554 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, right before. Luckily it was March fifth, so it 555 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: was right before everything sort of turned upside down. 556 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: But that was, I know, just a devastating loss. You know, 557 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: I've done a lot some fundraising or contributed to Project 558 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: ALS because I became very friendly with Jennifer Estes, who 559 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: started Naked Angels, a theater company in New York City, 560 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: who was diagnosed with ALS when she was very young. 561 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: And it is such a cruel, heartbreaking disease. I mean, 562 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: you know it firsthand. And what was your mom sick 563 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: for a long time or was it relatively fast? 564 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: It it really tore through her quickly, it was, you know, 565 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: it's a particularly cruel disease. It's it's just devastating. 566 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: And. 567 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: It it was just a couple of years, uh it 568 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: you know, she was in her early seventies and and yeah, 569 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: it moved quickly. I know sometimes it moves slower, but 570 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: with her, it was just a couple of years, sort 571 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: of end to end. And yeah, it was, it was. 572 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: It was devastating. It's a sort of disease where you 573 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: just don't want to think about the nightmare. 574 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: Being trapped in your body, right, I mean, and mentally 575 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: h most in most cases. I'm not a doctor, so 576 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't make this proclamation, but I think mentally, 577 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: most people are pretty sharp and their body is just 578 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: betraying them slowly but surely. And let you know that 579 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: you and your mom were extremely close, and tell me 580 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about her, because sometimes I think we 581 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: focus on the way people died instead of the way 582 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: they lived. 583 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's really sweet. She was a really incredible 584 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: person and a person who kind of lived, you know, 585 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: turned it up to eleven. She was, you know, out outdoor. 586 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: It was always out running or walking or you know, 587 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: grew up in Santa Cruso. We had a you know, 588 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: I grew up with a little bit of a hippyish 589 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: vibe to everything. Not that she had time to be 590 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: a hippie because she had was raising three kids and 591 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: she was a public school teacher. But being kind of 592 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: outdoorsy and granola e was something I always teased her 593 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 2: about and always had fun fun with. Like we didn't 594 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: really have a TV in the house. It was that 595 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: sort of thing, and. 596 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: She probably had what was it when we were kids. 597 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: As I said, you're probably ten or fifteen years younger 598 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: than I am, Adam, But what was the precursor to 599 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: granola was like gorp or something or. 600 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: Gorp oh As I grew up with gor I was. 601 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: Going to say, it sounds like it sounds like a 602 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: very gorpy household. 603 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: One hundred percent a lot of spurrollina. Yeah, you know, 604 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: Whole Foods is like I grew up going to the 605 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: Staff of Life, which was the health food store and 606 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: Zenachers and I just you know, I was making jokes 607 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: about it by the time I was like six years old. 608 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: You know, she was an incredibly unique person. I was 609 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: allowed to cuss as much as I wanted as long 610 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: was we were in our home, and so were my 611 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 2: friends when they came over. So when we were in 612 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: elementary school, they would come over and immediately walk in 613 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 2: the house and be like, f you Ann and she'd 614 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: be and she'd just be like, hey, f you you 615 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: little shit, and they, I mean loved it. These are 616 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: like twelve year old kids. They get to come over 617 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 2: and cuss. 618 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: That is so funny. 619 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very And once I had kids, I 620 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: had mixed feelings about her doing this with my you 621 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: know it, you know, really put it to the test, 622 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: but it was it was great. And so she was 623 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 2: the ultimate cool mom from from day one. And like 624 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: I said, she was a public school the special a 625 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: teacher at at the high school I actually went to, 626 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: and it was just an extraordinary person and so and 627 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: we were very close and she was the first person 628 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: I shared my ambition to be a professional actor when 629 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: I was fifteen or sixteen, And her reaction is what 630 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: kind of gave me the confidence to then share it 631 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: with others. 632 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, was her reaction. 633 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: It was I was watching the Academy Awards whatever the 634 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: year was when River Phoenix was nominated for Running on 635 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: Empty Do you remember that movie? 636 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I remember him and stand by. 637 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: Me, Oh sure, Running on Empties a suit Sidney Lumette movie. 638 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 2: He was nominated for Best Supporting Actor. But it was 639 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: the Oscars were on and she came into my room 640 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: and I pointed to the TV and I said, hey, 641 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, I think I can do that, and I 642 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: think I can do it better than some people. And 643 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: she just said, yeah, I know, you can't. Now go 644 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 2: to bed and close the door. It was just she 645 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: didn't even think about it for a second. She just 646 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: and that was you know, there was no condescension in 647 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 2: her approval of my idea. It was just logical to her, 648 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: and you know, was always beyond you know, supportive to 649 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: the point of of, like any son with their mom 650 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: being overly supportive get annoyed by it. But just you know, 651 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: I was properly loved growing up, and that's that's really 652 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: what you can ask for with a mother. And so, 653 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:35,439 Speaker 2: you know, it was a particularly devastating loss. I think, 654 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, for anyone losing their their mom and stuff. 655 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think you just there's no if 656 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to be the product of good parenting. 657 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: You know, and I realize as I get older, we 658 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: are very fortunate because so many people, for whatever reasons, 659 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: don't receive that kind of unconditional love from their parents. 660 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: But you know, we're so fortunate. And I in my book, 661 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: I wrote, my minister told me after my mom died, 662 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I was just devastated. I can't remember it was after 663 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: my dad or my mom died. I was just just 664 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just so lost and so so upset. 665 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: And he said, those who love deeply grieve deeply. And 666 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: that always made me feel It always made me turn 667 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: the loss into a gain, if that makes sense. It 668 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: always made me really appreciate my good fortune and having 669 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: really wonderful parents. And also, you know, I lost my 670 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: husband and my sister, So I've had a lost a 671 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of loss in my life. And sure, but I 672 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: think for I think for especially for parents, you think 673 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: that really profound, deep deep loss is because I think 674 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: you feel feel even more when you have you know, 675 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: you've been the recipient of unconditional love. So, yeah, but 676 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: your mom was too young. Your mom was too young 677 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: for sure. 678 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, something I didn't anticipate, you know, because she was 679 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 2: sick for a while, we knew what was coming. But 680 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: then the moment it happens, there's a shift in It's 681 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: a your your world does change the moment it happens, 682 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: no matter how much you are expecting it. And what 683 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: I realized was, you know, with a parent, you're you 684 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: realize that you're part of what you're doing throughout your 685 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: life is for them for them to see and for 686 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 2: them to be able to tell them about something or 687 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: let them kind of see what you're doing out in 688 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 2: the world or with your family or whatever kind of everything. 689 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 2: It's sort of a this watchful eye that's suddenly gone. 690 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: That that is, you know, it's it's something that it's 691 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: more of a feeling than trying to intellectualize it. Like 692 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 2: that is tough. It's tough to put put into words, 693 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: but it's an emotional thing that it's almost hard to 694 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 2: explain unless someone has lost a parent. 695 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: And a good parent, especially right, a good parent. 696 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, exactly, yeah, exactly. I would imagine it's different 697 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 2: if it was a different situation. 698 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'll have to think about if I ever have grandkids, 699 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: if my my domicile will be a you know, cuss 700 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: what do you call it? A cuss zone? Like you 701 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: can say whatever you want kids, My character would totally 702 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: not approve. I have to be honest with you, Adam. 703 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: My dad would would would never really let me cuss 704 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: as a kid. But you know, now everybody drops the 705 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: F bomb so much. You're walking down the street and 706 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: it's just like every other word. But I sound like 707 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: a you know, a prutish one hundred year old lady. 708 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: But but no. 709 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 2: I agree. It needs to be artfully done in order 710 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 2: for it to land properly. And by the way, if 711 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 2: I ever did it disrespectfully or did it with anger 712 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 2: or disrespect. 713 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: Like if you told your mother to go out herself. 714 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no no, it had 715 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 2: to be certainly in a joking manner. Otherwise I was 716 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: in huge, deep trouble to be sure. 717 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so happy that we got a chance to talk. 718 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: Please forget my blanket. 719 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 2: It's so cool. Are you kidding? 720 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never done this before and it is 721 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of hilarious. So maybe we'll have to run a 722 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: clip of this podcast to show how. 723 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: Are you going to start? I'm selling the Katie Curic 724 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: podcast hood that you wear for That's. 725 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 1: A nice that's an idea. Well, thanks again. I really enjoyed. 726 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed getting to know you and talking to you, 727 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: and I hope our paths cross again someday. 728 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: Same, Thank you, Katie, thanks for having me. 729 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: That was the ever charming Adam Scott. I know it's weird, 730 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: but I kind of want to be his friend. 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