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Speaker 2: Don't call it a comeback. I've been here for years

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Speaker 2: and rocking my peers, putting suckers in fear, making the

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Black Autills Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Your host Rod Ed Karen, and we are in the

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Speaker 4: house on a Sunday, a huge Sunday, actually right maybe

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Speaker 4: over the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Maybe over the Super Bowl, y'all.

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Speaker 4: It's the finale of Game of Thron tonight, which means

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Speaker 4: we have to look forward to another forty two weeks

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Speaker 4: of depression until Ah he comes back, you know. But

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Speaker 4: it is a big night and also is a bt Awars,

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Speaker 4: which for people that know me and Karen, we staying

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Speaker 4: for the bt.

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Speaker 3: A Wars, right, But I got to choose tonight, right.

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Speaker 5: That was so irritating.

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Speaker 6: I've seen people talking about that across social media, and

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Speaker 6: I seen Jamie talking to people about that.

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Speaker 5: But I'm on your side. Sweet, It's like, you could

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Speaker 6: It's like, why would you Why would you go up

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Speaker 6: against like basically the one of the number one rated

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Speaker 6: shows of all times quote unquote almost yeah for this award,

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Speaker 6: and you're doing a Prince tribute, which everybody wants to

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Speaker 6: see because y'all y'all came out clapping, y'all hands talking

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Speaker 6: about we got you after that Madonna.

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Speaker 5: So a lot of people are gonna too. But the

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Speaker 5: thing is, like, I guess for me, it's tough because

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna watch Game of Thrones me too. So it's

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Speaker 6: like you're literally taking probably hundreds of thousands of viewers

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Speaker 6: away that's gonna come back, but you've probably got an

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Speaker 6: hour for show that most people are gonna miss.

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Speaker 4: Don't take my black card, y'all, but I'm gonna miss it.

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely missing the hour of be Et tonight. I'm

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Speaker 4: sorry I watched the walbut do you know I'll make

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Speaker 4: preach away today.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I am not gonna apologize. I'll

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Speaker 2: be watching Game of Thrones, and I mean I think

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Speaker 2: the DVR watches than the live show, because there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of people live tweeting. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why I want to see it live.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to have anything ruined.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that that is true. You'll be talking about b

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Speaker 6: Then you know you realized that Kalicia done chopped off

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Speaker 5: You're like, but I didn't know that, You're like watching.

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Speaker 4: Uh, let me tell you guys, how much Karen loves Jamie.

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Speaker 4: We didn't even get to introduce her. That was just.

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Speaker 3: Karen just hopped on and was like listen, girl, let's

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, look, I picked up the phone. Let's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you should have recognized the boys.

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Speaker 3: Uh well, for those who, uh you know, haven't her?

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Speaker 4: You know who? I don't know who you are, but

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Speaker 4: that listen to us and don't listen to Black girl

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Speaker 4: who doesn't follow Jamie on Twitter at black girl Nerds

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Speaker 4: or you're gonna go to her website Black girl nerds

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Speaker 5: Them T shirts is flying. I messed around and it

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Speaker 4: Right, black girl nerds dot Com t shirts and like,

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Speaker 4: it's Jamie guys. You also, I feel like we've been

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Speaker 3: Hashtag Gate, it felt like, uh, I felt like.

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Speaker 4: Gate, I couldn't think of a better name that you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's been twenty seven hashtag gates that I

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Speaker 3: But that's the only day I could call it.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like I was coming out here trying

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Speaker 4: Black Girl Nerves. It's going on. Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for having me on your show.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys. You guys are so awesome and

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. And it just goes to show

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. I send people times and I tell

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Speaker 4: But we do appreciate you making it because ten am

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Speaker 4: made it. First of all, what's going on over at

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Speaker 2: Well, next month we will be over at San Diego

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Speaker 2: Comic Con, so that's extremely exciting, and it's our first

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Speaker 2: that's the big thing that's happening next month for us,

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Speaker 2: and then everything else is still the same social media stuff,

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, matter of fact, but let me before so

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Speaker 4: Let's get back to this talking. So one of the

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Speaker 4: I think people forget that people are human behind these names,

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Speaker 4: and I think especially having the name black Girl Nerds,

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Speaker 5: You know, like like nerd everybody going right?

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Speaker 4: So like what is the experience, like, like what kind

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Speaker 4: You know, when it comes to trolling this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, definitely the nerds planning and the gatekeeping is the

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Speaker 2: Like I've interviewed David Walker, who's writing the comic right now.

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Speaker 2: I have written reviews on Cyborg, We've done videos about Cyborg.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that I am being explained the origin

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Speaker 6: Like, what makes you think that mothers don't want their

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Speaker 6: And now the shit like that is the shit that

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Speaker 5: I see, Dudes, they are lived when.

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Speaker 5: But for me, I have to wait, Yeah right, Why

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Speaker 6: Because the way I look at this is the same

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Speaker 5: Not look at it like this.

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Speaker 6: You always get this uproar from black men when black

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Speaker 6: Guess what You always get this uproad from black women

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Speaker 6: if you do, it's a little small group of people.

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Speaker 6: want the same privilege as the white men. When it

434
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Speaker 6: comes to comics, I want comics to be all about me,

435
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Speaker 6: and I feel as though when black women come up,

436
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 6: it's always.

437
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 5: Some excuse, and that really really irritates me.

438
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Speaker 6: And I always have looked at that in the same light,

439
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 6: because to me, that shit matters, because all of a sudden,

440
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 6: when it comes to me, why is it, why doesn't

441
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 6: my And not only when it comes to comic books,

442
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 6: book books become a book, movies, comic book, films, comic

443
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 6: book across the board. When I see black female characters

444
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 6: not being represented, that I have the right to demand

445
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 6: more because I feel like this, if you want my money,

446
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to deal with my opinion, and nobody

447
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 6: wants to.

448
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 5: Everybody wants to act like that shit don't matter.

449
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 6: Black males spend their money, so when they talk about

450
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Speaker 6: black Panther, that's their opinion.

451
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 5: That's their voices, and they want their voices to be heard.

452
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Speaker 6: When I go buy comic books, my voice matters too,

453
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Speaker 6: because now my dollars spind and dollars and at the

454
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Speaker 6: end of the day, nobody wants to lose money exactly.

455
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Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. I mean, you're gaining more

456
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: money by making it diverse and bringing in women and

457
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 2: bringing in Black women because we are huge for us

458
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Speaker 2: as consumers. We have a lot of spending power. And

459
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Speaker 2: one other conversation I remember was about Lupie and Nango

460
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Speaker 2: is mis Kanada. In episode seven. I had written an

461
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Speaker 2: article on black Nerds and Black girl Nerds, and then

462
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: there was another contributor that wrote an article on Black

463
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: Girl Nerds about the fact that she was completely erased

464
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Speaker 2: by CGI and her face, and I took issue with that,

465
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: and people were coming at me on Twitter. Black men

466
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: were coming at me on Twitter saying, well, you know,

467
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Speaker 2: I don't see anything wrong with CGI, and why are

468
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: you complaining about this? We got Lapita Neanga in the film. Look,

469
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: I we don't get to see images of women that

470
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Speaker 2: look like us on film, and Star Wars one of

471
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Speaker 2: the most iconic, prolific films of our generation. It would

472
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Speaker 2: have been nice to have seen Lapita Neango play the

473
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Speaker 2: role of a Jedi or a Scyth or even mas

474
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Speaker 2: Kanada just being her image instead of seeing a cgied alien.

475
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that there's anything wrong in critiquing that.

476
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: But like you said, Karen, when it's a man, then

477
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: guys just go at it and complain about it, and

478
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: they have an issue and they have a whole host

479
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: of reasons as to why this character should be looked

480
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: at it, you know, as a blackmail and to be

481
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: depicted and represented. But when it comes to us, they

482
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: just kind of find other reasons why that it's okay,

483
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: or they just ignore it altogether. Like Sandra Bland's name

484
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: being ignored and us having to use the hashtag say

485
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: her name. So it's it's unfortunate, and there's a lot

486
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: of bias and a lot of sexism that that's in

487
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: the nerd community and that needs to be addressed and

488
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: that needs to be acknowledged.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really funny too because like, uh, with a

490
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: lot of these issues, if we had more than one

491
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: black woman perfume, I know the quota is one, I guess,

492
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: or maybe the limit is one, it seems the issues

493
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: wouldn't be as bad, right because like it feels like

494
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 4: you have one chance to get it right, Like if

495
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: you do an X Men film, Storm, that's it, Like

496
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: you fuck up Storm Now, I'm just like okay, So

497
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: just okay, Now we got to wait for another you know.

498
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 4: And that's if you have one black woman in the film, right,

499
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: So Suicide Squad you're gonna have Viola Davis, right, So

500
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: it's like one you get one chance.

501
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Speaker 3: Like if Star Wars had three.

502
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 4: Black women speaking parts, then it's like, okay, Lapito chose

503
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 4: to do her thing this way, but then there's two

504
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 4: other black women in this film or whatever. There's it's

505
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: always just like the one like if she don't do it,

506
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 4: then nobody's gonna get to do it, and so and

507
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: and like I said, it doesn't cost anything to just

508
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: hear the critique and be like, okay, you know, like

509
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: I've I saw the interview at Lapito was like, you know,

510
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: I wanted to do this character this way and learn

511
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 4: from Andy Serkis, and I'm gonna use this and other

512
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: things and stuff. And that's cool, you know what I mean.

513
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean that as a fan, I have

514
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: to go, well, yeah, that's what I want from the film.

515
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 4: I can still want something different than the actor wanted.

516
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: Like it's strange, you know, It's like, I don't understand

517
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: how it turned into well I do understand. They kind

518
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: of turned into black men kind of right, right, And.

519
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Speaker 6: And to piggyback on what you're saying, and to talk

520
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 6: about addressing something that Jamie was saying.

521
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Speaker 5: We were talking about women.

522
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 6: People underestimate the buying power of black women. Black women

523
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 6: are the most educated group of people out of a

524
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 6: whole demographics in the United States of America.

525
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: We're highly educated, which.

526
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 6: Means we have tons of degrees, which means we have

527
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 6: fucking money to spend, which means a lot of times

528
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 6: we own our own businesses. A lot of Black women

529
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: own their own businesses, are starting their own business, or

530
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 6: have some connection with somebody that knows how to start

531
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Speaker 6: their own business. And the thing is black women can

532
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 6: invest a lot of times more than any other group

533
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 6: because a lot of times we're higher educated. And the

534
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 6: thing is, our buying power is off the chain. Women

535
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 6: across the board, but particularly black women will end up splurging,

536
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 6: spending more money than ben would people to realize that.

537
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 6: You guys come, they go, okay, I want to get

538
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 6: this amounded. But you do have men to kind of

539
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Speaker 6: go with board. But you have women that were like, hey,

540
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 6: I'll pick this up for my niece. I picked this

541
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 6: up for my nephew. I picked you know, this went

542
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 6: up for me and for.

543
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 5: You know what.

544
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: You don't you don't spend sixty dollars when you thought, well,

545
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 6: I was only gonna spend twenty. Women have a tendency

546
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: to do that more just from studying statistics on women

547
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 6: and just how they buy. So it's like you have

548
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 6: a whole demographic there that they're telling you that they

549
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 6: want to give you their money.

550
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: And you're refusing to take it.

551
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 6: And also something else that makes me mad with a

552
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: lot of men, and I will stick with this. I

553
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 6: hate it when you have men who don't say jack

554
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 6: shit about nothing NERD related.

555
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: I go down.

556
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: Your timeline is basketball and football and hockey and soccer

557
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 6: all got damn day long. But the first time something

558
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 6: come about Tyler Hosekoch or the something first time here

559
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 6: you come and bothering somebody, I'm like, well, if you

560
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 6: was quiet about the other shit, keep being quiet, because

561
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 6: that's my promise.

562
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 5: Like, you really don't care.

563
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 6: Your whole purpose is just to tell me to shut

564
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 6: up because you just don't want to hear me out.

565
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 6: And that's and that's the thing. It's like, I don't

566
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 6: care what you talk about about all day. I don't

567
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: care what you do all day. But sometimes it costs

568
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 6: nothing to be quiet, because that's the problem.

569
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 5: It's people that talk about this all day. Cool.

570
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: But then there's people who don't never say shit until

571
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: so until a woman says something.

572
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: Those are the people have a problem.

573
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 4: With, yes, And normally what they're saying, if you translated,

574
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: is shut the fuck up, right. It's normally not helpful

575
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: or well, it's normally just like can't y'all just go

576
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: back to being quiet so I can pretend that none

577
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: of this is happening, you know you.

578
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 6: Like, no, just keep being quiet, Like, yeah, why why

579
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 6: you choose this one time to speak up?

580
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 5: Quick? Keep watching the football game.

581
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: I'm not bothering your football, I'm not bothering your basketball

582
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 6: or whatever else is happening in your life. But I

583
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 6: bet you one thing, a black man gets shot. I

584
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 6: got to see that shit go all up. But now

585
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 6: a timeline all day with chance.

586
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: Class, even in nervedom, it doesn't even have to be

587
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: a black person getting shot or something, and just it

588
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: can just be like Captain America had his character change

589
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 4: to a Nazi and people are like, that's all you

590
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: see all day? Like certain like just certain things just

591
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: trigger people in them to like go slap off. But

592
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: then you know, when it's certain issues that you don't

593
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 4: have to deal with, you don't care about it, or

594
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 4: you yeah, they don't represent you in anyone, then it's like, oh, well,

595
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: can you y'all just stop being upset about it? When

596
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: you know, for the most part, when I see people

597
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: being mad about something and I don't agree with it,

598
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: I just don't say shit to them. I don't, like,

599
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: it really doesn't cost me anything to be like, Okay,

600
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: I see where they're coming from, or I don't see

601
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: where they're coming from, and just walk away from that

602
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 4: topic because I'm not going to spend all day telling

603
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: somebody else how they need to feel about you know,

604
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: these fictional things you know, right?

605
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 6: And also and also I think for me, when men

606
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 6: do this, it's like, just like you tell white people

607
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 6: to know their historical context, there is a historical context

608
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 6: about a man coming and telling a woman just to

609
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 6: be quiet just because, and people don't.

610
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: Want to admit that too.

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: And then when she turned around to get mad at

612
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 6: you and clap back because you just said something out

613
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: of pocket to her, you act like she's wrong for

614
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 6: telling you to get your.

615
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 5: Ass at her timeline, get your ass at how much?

616
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 6: And it going about your business?

617
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: Jamie, have you had any like of the cause I know,

618
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 4: like Gamergate was like a huge thing last year and

619
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, Uh, do you game? Do you people

620
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: on the site y'all write about games a lot or

621
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: anything like that?

622
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do have writers that talk about gaming. Lauren Warren,

623
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: she's the video game contributor of Black Girl nerds, So

624
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: there's some gaming content. I think that there should definitely

625
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: be some more because it's few and far between, but

626
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: I haven't really because I know the gamer Gate situation

627
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: and women in gaming community has been really harsh and uh,

628
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean women have been threatened and docked and just

629
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: all of this craziness. And I'm grateful that I haven't

630
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: been involved in those circles, but I've seen it from

631
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: the sidelines, and it's just it's sickening, it's disgusting. I

632
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: don't understand what it is about women wanting to create games,

633
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: play games, be a part of this community that is

634
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: such a threat to men. It doesn't make any sense

635
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: to me. So it's it's very unfortunate what has come

636
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: out of the gamer Gate community. And I just give

637
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: all of my blessings and just I'm one hundred percent

638
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: supportive of the women out there that are going through

639
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: this and are fighting the good fight for all of us,

640
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: because it's it's a really hard space to be a

641
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: part of.

642
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you worry about having the because I can

643
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: never tell, by the way, with these gamer gay dudes,

644
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: what's the thing that.

645
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: Makes the backlash?

646
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like women have been gaming forever,

647
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: women have been writing about game, and women have been

648
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: talking about game, and women have been feminists forever somehow,

649
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: and it's just like once every two weeks or so,

650
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: there's just something where they're just like, I don't like

651
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: her because she said this, Like, do you ever worry

652
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: about you know, and not just gamer gay but even

653
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: just within blurred them, you know, you worry about your

654
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: your opinion and the backlash that you get for you know,

655
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: being like I don't like this movie or I did

656
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: like this movie or whatever.

657
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm grateful that the blur community is not that vicious.

658
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: It seems like white males are incredibly violent and threatening

659
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: online and black males are not, because you know, black

660
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: men are still marginalized even though patriarchy exists. Uh, they

661
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: they're still marginalized like us. So, uh, I don't get

662
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: the kind of backlash that women get in the gaming spaces.

663
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: I actually was on a panel with Anita Sarkisian at

664
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: Feminist Frequency, who is pretty prolific in the space and

665
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: has written articles and unfortunately has been threatened many many

666
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: times online. And in this panel that I was at.

667
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: This was at geek Girl Con. There's actually a bomb

668
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: threat because she was there, and I'm just like, this

669
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: is ridiculous, Like people are really and she has to

670
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: have like a security guard around her at all times.

671
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: It's just crazy. So I am grateful that I don't

672
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: have to deal with that kind of those kind of threats,

673
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: but you know, it's still hard's I still deal with

674
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: trolls on a daily basis. And I just say to

675
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: those folks that you know who are upset about this,

676
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: We're not going anywhere. You know, being antagonistic towards women

677
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: and being antagonistic towards people of color, that's not really

678
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: going to change anything. This space is going to continue

679
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: to be diverse and we will continue making our content.

680
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: That's why these niche spaces like Black Girl Nerds and

681
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: so many others have been created because we've been marginalized,

682
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: we have been sidelined, we have been ignored and dismissed

683
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: by mainstream outlets that focus on nerd culture. So I

684
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: don't see the point in being intach gonna stick when

685
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: we're just going to stay and we're going to thrive

686
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: and grow and evolve and pretty much dominate this space.

687
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty It really is.

688
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 4: Like the speech from Color Purple that all my life

689
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: I had to fight, like yeah, for for Black Woman

690
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: Nerd them, you know what I'm saying, because you catch

691
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: it from so many things, so many different angles. And

692
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: then like, how much of like Black Girl Nerds the

693
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: brand is Jamie, you know, because you have a lot

694
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: of people that write for you, and you do have like, uh,

695
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: you know, other people on Twitter and stuff, like how

696
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 4: much of it is Jamie and how much of it

697
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: is just like the banner of you know, black women,

698
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: let's unite under this banner.

699
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Let's get information, lady. That's a great question. I am

700
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: so grateful to have a large team of women that

701
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: help in so many areas. Because BGN has grown substantially

702
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: over the last four years, and because I am still

703
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: balancing a full time job and doing this, I certainly

704
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: can't do it alone. So I am the one that

705
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: operates the Black Girl Nerds account. It is exclusively me.

706
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: So that's all Jamie. But the website, all of the

707
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: editorials that you see, most of them are written by

708
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: other contributors. At this point, I actually haven't written a

709
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: whole lot of editorials myself lately. The podcast is co

710
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: hosted by many women. We're now doing segments where there's

711
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: one on one interviews with guests and all of the

712
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: other podcasters are contributing to that. The at Black Girl

713
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: Geeks account, which is the sister account to Black Girl Nerds,

714
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: is operated by a team of women and men. There's

715
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: actually men that work the account for the live tweeting

716
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: of various shows. So yeah, it's it's really great platform

717
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: where everybody is involved in. It is in fact a community,

718
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: a community of people that is putting out content for

719
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: an online community. So I'm very grateful to have a

720
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: lot of help with with Black Girl Nerds, because if

721
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: I did it all by myself, I would probably just

722
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: pass out from.

723
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 6: What gave you the idea to say, this is the

724
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 6: space that I want to go into.

725
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 5: As far as being a black nerd, you know, I.

726
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: Four years ago when I created the site, I just

727
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: wanted to see images of black girls that look like me,

728
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: that were a part of nerd culture. Like I had

729
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: noticed shows like Big Bang Theory, and you know, seeing

730
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: websites like the Nerdists and reading even websites like Mary

731
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Sue at the time, which was predominantly white. Noticing that

732
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: these nerd spaces really did not reflect any women that

733
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: looked like me. Even when they sold merchandise, they didn't

734
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: feature Storm or Misty Knight or Monica Rambau. And I'm

735
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: just like, this is so interesting that nerd culture is

736
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: becoming very big. We're seeing it, you know, in the

737
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: form of comic book movies and TV shows and such,

738
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: but there's no people of color in these spaces, and

739
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: there's certainly no Black women. It's almost as if we're

740
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: an anomaly. So I just went on Google and typed

741
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: in black girl nerds just to see if there was

742
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: somebody out there that had a website, a YouTube page, something,

743
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: and nothing came up. And I just thought that that

744
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: was very interesting. Even when I typed in black girl

745
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: nerds under the image results in Google, I saw white

746
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: women with black glasses. What so yeah, so yeah, I mean,

747
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: it was just very interesting that a community of women

748
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: that have always been around, i mean, really always been around.

749
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: May Gemisim is a nerd, you know. I even think

750
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: Harriet Teubman was a nerd, like Phyllis Watly, Like, there

751
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: was so many of us through time that have embraced

752
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: this culture, but we've just never been reflected at it

753
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: reflected in mainstream media, and I just was like, well,

754
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put a term on the web and call

755
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: it black girl nerds. So I can't find that term

756
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: in Google, I'll create it. And that's really how it

757
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: all happened.

758
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: And what about like growing up, Like did you grow

759
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: up reading comics or like what you know, like what

760
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: was your nerdness growing up?

761
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: I did. I started reading comics at nine years old.

762
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: The first comic I started reading was the Archie Comics

763
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: because my mom would buy one every time we went

764
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: to the grocery store. It was like in the same

765
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: aisle as the cash register and it would be on

766
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: the side stand, so my mom would pick one up.

767
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: And then my mom would take my brother and I

768
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 2: to the comic book shop. And one day I saw

769
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 2: this comic book called Excalibur, and Excalibur is a spin

770
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: off team from the X Men based in the UK,

771
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: and I just really liked that team because it was

772
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: mostly women on the team. I just saw this comic

773
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: book with a whole bunch of boobs on it, and

774
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to see book, and that's

775
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: what got me started. And then from EXCaliber, I went

776
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: on to X Men and had been reading comics for

777
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: a long time in my childhood. And I was always

778
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: a gamer. I'm not a gamer now, but I was

779
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: definitely into gaming. My mom bought me an ANS system

780
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: when I was ten years old, and my brother and

781
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: I used to play with all of the different games

782
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: on the NIS system and as well as the other

783
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: systems that came after it. And you know, I always

784
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: just kind of like was a person that was okay

785
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: with being in solitude. I didn't really have a lot

786
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: of friends, so I spent most of my time just

787
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: reading books, and I collected a lot of cards, baseball, basketball,

788
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: even the comic book Marvel cards. So that was a

789
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: big staple of my nerddom. And I was into things

790
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: that were quote unquote guy fandoms, which have always been

791
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: embraced by nerd culture. So that is something that I

792
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: always grew up with. So, you know, I guess now

793
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: it's considered to be nerdy, but back then those were

794
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 2: just things that were cool.

795
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, uh, like I don't now, I don't

796
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: know your mom, but you know my mom my dad,

797
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 4: Like I do remember the struggle of the comic book

798
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: rack at the grocery store, because since I didn't have

799
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: the money, it was always like a crapshoot on whether

800
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: my mom was coming off the ninety nine cents or not.

801
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: You know, like I have read so many issues of

802
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: a comic book in the store, you know, I just like,

803
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm just like I got to hurry up and finished

804
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: Weapon NEX. I got to hurry up. Mama's in line.

805
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: I got to please don't see me get bread if

806
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: I'm just like three pages forgot the milk. Yeah, I'm

807
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: three pages from finding out of logan can beat the

808
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 4: wood to go, just please don't right, that was such

809
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: a struggle, but yeah, every once in a while, Mom

810
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: would be like, here's like three four dollars a go,

811
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: you know, comic books like seventy five cents. So at

812
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: the time I could go get three faux file comic

813
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: books and like kids now probably got to pick one.

814
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're high now, but that's that's what

815
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: Free Comic Book Day is all about for me, because

816
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: you can get some free comics, or you can get

817
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: some at a really super low discount at your local

818
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: com book shop. So it's it's fun to always go

819
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: to the free comic book shop because then I'm able

820
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: to just like bask in the nostalgia of it all

821
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: and collect Like right now, I'm on issues. I have

822
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: issues one through one hundred and twenty five of Excalibur.

823
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: So I'm just doing collectibles now because of Free Comic

824
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Book Day. And you can save money that way. So

825
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: that's great.

826
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you and your parents, or you said, your mom,

827
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: she was really supportive of your your nerdery.

828
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: She was, I mean, and again, like back then, we

829
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: didn't know it was nerdy, and neither did she. But

830
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: she always supported the things that my brother and I

831
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: was into because I lived in a neighborhood that was

832
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: like predominantly boys, so I wanted everything that the boys wanted.

833
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: So when she purchased the NES system and got the

834
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: game cartridges, like she was there playing Super Mario Brothers

835
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: with us. You know, she didn't read comics, but she

836
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: would be there. She would drop us, she would drop

837
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: us off. She wouldn't be in this war with us.

838
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: She'd do her own thing, go shopping, and then come

839
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: back and pick us up. But we would be in

840
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: the comic book shop, my brother and I for hours,

841
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: just hanging out reading comic books, picking and choosing what

842
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: we wanted to bring home with us, and she was

843
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: always very supportive of that. So it's great to have

844
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: a mom that is there to support your your fandoms

845
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: because when you get older, that is something that is

846
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: going to still resonate with you and maybe you could

847
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: use it to your advantage to allow those fandoms to

848
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: work for you.

849
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: Like, hey, maybe you won't put them in a home.

850
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: You know, when the time comes, it's like you're gonna

851
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: look back and be like, you know what, you bought

852
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: me a Sega Genesis. Uh, you bought me, you know,

853
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: a Nintendo, a Super Nintendo. You know, you know what.

854
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna put you in the home now. You

855
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: you call them all Nintendos, which you know is fine.

856
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: You didn't know the difference, no, but in general, you know,

857
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: my PlayStation wasn't a Nintendo, but you bought that for me,

858
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: and I appreciate you. I feel like my parents' relationship

859
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: with video games were always the same, which was, uh,

860
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: did you eat homework? Cause uh, you know, I'm I'm

861
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: gonna need them controllers. You gonna have to. I noticed

862
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: that the house wasn't as clean as I like it

863
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: to be. Put that back on top of I feel

864
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 4: like my saga Gennis has spent more time on top.

865
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Of the refrigerator than plug to a TV.

866
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were. It was a struggle, man, That's

867
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: that's why our game now, Dad, you can't stop me

868
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: all not right now. I was like four in the morning.

869
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm just making up for lost time. What about like

870
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: school wise and stuff, because you also say you were

871
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: kind of a loner with school, Like did you grow

872
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: up and we did the same thing with being, I

873
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: mean DJ being, I mean like what was your like

874
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: background growing up? Like, did you grow up like a

875
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: predominantly black neighborhoods? Did you grow up taking uh? Like,

876
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: were you in the what do you call those advanced

877
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: classes and stuff like that? I did it.

878
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't really that smart, so I never did AP classes.

879
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: But as far as growing up, I lived in a

880
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: predominantly mixed town. I don't know if that term has

881
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: ever been used, but anyway, it was mixed. Because I'm

882
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: from Virginia Beach. I still currently live there, and in

883
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Virginia Beach, it's a military town, so there's a lot

884
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: of people that come from different parts of the country

885
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: to live here for military reasons. So people of all

886
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: different nationalities and backgrounds live in this city. So I

887
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: never dealt with a whole lot of racism or you know,

888
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: anything like that. I have encountered it a couple of

889
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: times being in certain sections of the city that are

890
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: predominantly white, but for the most part, I lived in

891
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: a very diverse neighborhood, and I think that that is

892
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: what's helped me have a very diverse perspective when it

893
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 2: comes to cultures, people of different nationalities, people of different backgrounds,

894
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: and and I've I've always loved that. Like I I

895
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: love TV shows and movies and content that feature US

896
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: and and and other cultures. But I just love seeing,

897
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, people that are you know, I love watching

898
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: shows that are from like the BBC, and I like

899
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: watching k dramas and and things like that. So I

900
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: embrace a lot of cultures as well. So yeah, my

901
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: background has been pretty mixed growing up, and I've always

902
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: been a bit of an introvert. I'm still an introvert now.

903
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: It's it's hard for me to even do like interviews

904
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: like this and speaking on panels because it's you know,

905
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: being social wasn't something that has ever been my forte.

906
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: But I've always been a recluse growing up and not

907
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: really having a whole lot of friends. When I was

908
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: in school, I had a very small, close knit group

909
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: of friends, like there was like two of us, but

910
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 2: not anything where I was considered quote unquote popular.

911
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: So yeah, so what was going on MP show? Was

912
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: that like a big hurdle for you? It was?

913
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: And that whole day was crazy because the driver that

914
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: was supposed to pick me up for the interview was late,

915
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: and I literally walked in the studio minutes before that

916
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: segment aired. So I was frazzled to begin with. But

917
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: for some reason, the moment I sat in that chair,

918
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: just this calm came over me and I was able

919
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: to you know, handle it without puking next to Melissa

920
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: and and and it was such an honor because she

921
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: is the first person that ever followed the Black Girl

922
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: Nerds Twitter account, like the first celebrity.

923
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

924
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: So it was very much like a full circle kind

925
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: of moment for me being on that show.

926
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt as a fellow introvert, you know, it

927
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 4: felt like I got to vicariously get my life through you.

928
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: Uh we were you were taking pictures and stuff. I

929
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 4: was on Facebook like like like all this look she's

930
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: touching Melissa Head. I know, I know.

931
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: Uh it was so that was that was really cool.

932
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: Now would have been some of the highlights because I

933
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 4: feel like we've talked about a lot of the struggle,

934
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, But would have been some

935
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: of the highlights of Black Girl nrves. I know, you

936
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 4: guys have like seventy something thousand followers on Twitter at

937
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 4: this point, and at this point, I mean Avid de Verne,

938
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: Uh isn't indriest falling on following you?

939
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's following.

940
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: So like you know, you've been You've been on You've

941
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: been on TV.

942
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: Every day to following this account, So.

943
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: Uh like do you so like what kind of things

944
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: have been the highlights? You know? Because like I said,

945
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: TV and all this stuff though.

946
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so definitely Melissa Harris Perry's show was a highlight,

947
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: and Shonda Rhimes giving me a shout out on Marie

948
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Claire magazine was just insane and crazy and unexpected. And

949
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: and then just being able to be represented in all

950
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: of these different conventions across the country, being asked to

951
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: be on panels. I mean, I, like I said before,

952
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: talking is a new experience for me. So being asked

953
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: to be a part of a panel on some of

954
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: the biggest you know, at some of the biggest conventions,

955
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: and being on panels with very prolific people, Like last

956
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: year at San Diego Comic Con, I was on a

957
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: panel with Ryan Coogler. That was crazy. Uh So, you know,

958
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: those kinds of things are are awesome and big highlights

959
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: of Black Girl Nerds and and just being recognized by

960
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: so many folks in this space and having the kinds

961
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: of followers that we have it just Elba and Shonda,

962
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: Melissa and Ava Duvernet and so many other great people.

963
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very honored to see that these folks really

964
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: love the work that we're doing and see that this

965
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: is a space that's very inclusive, and also recognize themselves

966
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: as nerds. For example, Lance Reddick, he was on Like

967
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: the Wire and Fringe he recently followed Black Girl Nerds

968
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: and he was like, well, I'm a nerd too. Like,

969
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: I just think that that's really cool that these these

970
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: celebrities and VIPs like the space and then acknowledge themselves

971
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: as being nerdy, because you don't really see that a

972
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: whole lot. So that's that's pretty awesome.

973
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, also with your platform, carn it kind of growing.

974
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: Like there's like one thing I've always noticed too, is

975
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: there's a certain amount of wokeness that is supposed to

976
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 4: be expected at this point from you. Do you ever

977
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: feel like there's pressure, Like when you're watching something and

978
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, now, I gotta make sure that I'm

979
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: seeing all the problematic stuff as well as all the

980
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 4: good stuff so that you know, later if I go

981
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: on Twitter and say I like Finding Dory and then

982
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: people will come on and they're like, yeah, man, but

983
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: you know them green Fish, they represented black people and

984
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: that was that was messed up that you would like

985
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 4: this film.

986
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: Like, do you do you feel pressure to be woke?

987
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: I know you feel that as well being culture, and

988
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: I've seen your timeline, especially with the whole Bernie situation. Yeah,

989
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: it's hard. I mean, there's so many things to be

990
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: offended at now. It makes it a difficult space to

991
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: maneuver in. And I'm always open and willing to be

992
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: sensitive to issues, but sometimes I think people just want

993
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 2: to have an air horn on Twitter and invent about

994
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: something that's not anything, to be incredibly upset at that said,

995
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: I am you know, I am woke to a lot

996
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: of issues just because I, as a black woman, have

997
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: to be. It's not something I choose to do. It's

998
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: because it's a part of the fabric of my life.

999
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: And I have to acknowledge the fact that racism is

1000
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: still pervasive in the spaces that I that I maneuver

1001
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: in the fact that, you know, sexism is still very

1002
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: much a part of, you know, destroying a part of

1003
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 2: our community, where with the conversations that we've had earlier,

1004
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: gatekeeping and mansplaining and things like that. But I also

1005
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge social justice issues because I think it's

1006
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: important and having a space that is that has a

1007
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: lot of followers. Being someone that's considered a quote unquote

1008
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: social media influencer, I think it's important for me to

1009
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: also highlight those issues and focus on them because there

1010
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: are some people that didn't even know what has been

1011
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: happening in the news just because I was talking about it,

1012
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: and I think that that's something to be acknowledged. But

1013
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: it's it's hard because I'm only one person on a

1014
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Twitter account, so I can't acknowledge every issue. And people

1015
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: always loved to tweet to me, did you hear about

1016
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: this and that? So, you know, whatever issue I feel

1017
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: like is something that affects me and something that I

1018
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: think would be profound on the community that I represent,

1019
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: then I'm always willing to highlight those kinds of issues.

1020
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is weird being expected to be woke quote

1021
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: unquote because sometimes people like sometimes people hit me up

1022
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 4: and like I absolutely see their point and I agree,

1023
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: or sometimes like I feel like the new thing for

1024
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: me is that I've been liking a lot of stuff,

1025
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: Like ever since Batman Superman came out.

1026
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: And I hated it.

1027
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: Afterwards, everything has kind of been like some level of

1028
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: enjoyable to me. I think my brain has just refused

1029
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: to be that upset again. So I'm just like, you

1030
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: know what, they had four Turtles April and Neil was

1031
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 4: in the movie and Casey Jones and I don't understand

1032
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: what's bad about it, and then I just move on,

1033
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 4: like you know, rather than try to fight about it.

1034
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: But every once in a while someone will come to

1035
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: me with something where like the last thing was the

1036
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: stud called Diggle, the character on Erra. He was like, yeah,

1037
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 4: he's a coon man, and I was like, okay, that

1038
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 4: that's a lot. And and my thing wasn't to argue

1039
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 4: with him, because I look, when he first said it,

1040
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: I literally just said, okay, well I disagree, and I

1041
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 4: tried to like keep I was actually watching the show

1042
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 4: at the time, so I was like, I'm going to

1043
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 4: continue to watch the show and just you know, if

1044
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 4: you feel that way, I can't change your mind. But

1045
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: they kept going like, no, no, I don't. I mean,

1046
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: I stopped watching the show after a couple of episodes,

1047
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 4: so can you explain him?

1048
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: Like it's it's literally four seasons later.

1049
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: I like, I don't even know, like and so, but

1050
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: they kept going until I had to sit down and

1051
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: be like, okay, I'm pausing this now.

1052
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: So now I'm not enjoying what I was doing.

1053
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: And here are the seventeen reasons why I feel like

1054
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 4: he's a really complex, like a complicated care that it's

1055
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 4: not just a racial stereotype and he's not a quote

1056
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: unquote coon and all this stuff.

1057
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: And afterwards, you know, the.

1058
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 4: Guy was like, oh, okay, well, you know, I thank

1059
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: you for explaining it to me, and I'm just like,

1060
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 4: but you could have watched the show. You could have

1061
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: like They're like I don't even understand, like.

1062
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 5: The so much patience because it iin't is blaming jack

1063
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 5: shit to you. Watch the goddamn show yourself, right, But that's.

1064
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: The I don't, I don't know. I guess it's pressure machine.

1065
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the rage machine is in. It started

1066
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: with Fantastic four.

1067
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: Oh.

1068
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: I am one of the few people that enjoyed the film.

1069
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that terrible of a movie.

1070
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, it.

1071
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: Had its problems, but people were just going at it.

1072
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, is this the new thing now

1073
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: where we're just gonna destroy a movie because they were

1074
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 2: destroying the movie before it was even released, Like, people

1075
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: was already in their feelings about it because it wasn't

1076
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: cannon and it was dark, and I'm just like, give

1077
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: it a chance. And when most of us did get

1078
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: gave it a chance, we some of us did like it,

1079
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: and some people were just adamant about hating it. And

1080
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: and it's happening more and more frequently with X Amount

1081
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: Apocalypse and Batman Versus Superman. I mean, those weren't really

1082
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: great films, but they weren't the worst films ever made.

1083
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: I Mean, there's I can name at least ten movies

1084
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 2: that are far worse than all of those movies. So

1085
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: this whole nerd rage machine is just it's it's annoying.

1086
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that you either have to

1087
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: love something or hate it, that there's no in between.

1088
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: There is a contingent of us that can feel like

1089
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: met about a movie or not have any strong feelings

1090
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: about it. Like I'm usually in the middle when it

1091
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: comes to these things, and there are some movies that

1092
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is the worst movie ever made

1093
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: Jonah Hex So yeah, you know, so I just I

1094
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: just think that we need to kind of take a

1095
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: step back and also do a rewatch, because there are

1096
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: movies that I've watched, you know, gave it a second

1097
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: and third watch, and I'm just like, you know what,

1098
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: this isn't as bad as I thought it was when

1099
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater. So that's another thing

1100
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 2: people need to do before they just start going off

1101
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: on a tantrum.

1102
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 4: That happened with me where Teenage Muni Ninja Turtles the

1103
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: first film, Like I left the first film angry, and

1104
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: then I'll rewatched it on Amazon Prime like a couple

1105
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: of months ago, and I was like, I don't know

1106
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: what I was mad about, Like they're teenage Muni Ninja turtles.

1107
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 4: It's not really a lot to do, you know what

1108
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 4: I mean? Like all the personalities fit with the things

1109
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: I grew up reading and watching. I don't know what

1110
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: I was tripping, and then you know it, suddenly I'm

1111
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 4: over it. And I think when you talk about disliking

1112
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 4: stuff on two levels. On the one level, we all

1113
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: have different lines. And my thing is to try to

1114
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: respect it. Because I remember I read your Fantastic four

1115
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: piece and I did I'm not gonna lie I did

1116
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 4: hate Fantastic four But I remember being like, yeah, well

1117
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: that's like, why would you like because I've read the comments?

1118
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 4: And I was like, why does she have to hate

1119
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: it too? Like isn't it okay for me to be

1120
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 4: like I didn't like this thing, but Jamie liked this thing,

1121
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: and we just, you know, we can laugh about it

1122
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: in a year. I don't know, But why are we

1123
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: angry that we didn't all have the same opinion? Uniformity

1124
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 4: of opinion is not ever gonna be achievable. Why not

1125
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: just kind of allow the fact that we have diverse

1126
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: opinions to kind of like flourish and for a while,

1127
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: and maybe it still is this way, but because I've

1128
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: kind of opted out of some of the conversation online,

1129
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 4: but it felt like you had to be angry to

1130
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: be a nerd in a lot of spaces, like it's

1131
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: anonymous with nerd. It's like you're not a real nerd

1132
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: unless you're mad about shit all the time. And I'm not.

1133
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: I'm you know, like in general, I'm enjoying this time.

1134
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: I think we're living in a golden era of nerdom

1135
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 4: where actors who are like, you know, actors don't actors

1136
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 4: who don't have to do this are being like, I

1137
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: gotta get in this Marvel film, you know, Like like

1138
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: there was a time when I would be like, Bennette

1139
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: Coumerbatch is gonna do what now?

1140
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 5: Why?

1141
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: Like what like why would he wastes his time? Now

1142
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 4: it's like, man, Benadette Gumbatch, lucky he got that part,

1143
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: because I mean it was six other dudes. They could

1144
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 4: have done that. Like we're at that level now. A

1145
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: dude wins an Oscar and then goes, I want to

1146
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: be in this franchise, you know. So I feel like

1147
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: for a lot of parts, for a large part, sometimes

1148
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: it feels like we're getting it takes people take it

1149
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: for granted. But I just didn't want to be part

1150
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: of the anger culture because that's never what being a

1151
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: nerd was about for me.

1152
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: It was a place of solace.

1153
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: It was a happy place, like, ooh, i'm reading my

1154
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 4: comic book. I'm not you know, I'm happy to talk

1155
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 4: about it with people that are enjoying it, but I

1156
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: wasn't seeking out people so we could all be mad

1157
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: about it exactly.

1158
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: And people have to understand screen adaptations from books creative

1159
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: liberties happen all the time. So if you're upset because

1160
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: it's not canon, then prepare to be miserable for the

1161
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: rest of your life because that's what you're going to

1162
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what's going to be happening when these

1163
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: Marvel movies and these Warner Brothers DC movies come out.

1164
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: They're not always going to go specifically in alignment with

1165
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: the comic book. And that's what a lot of these

1166
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: fans are like angry about. And it's okay to be

1167
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,919
Speaker 2: angry about the whitewashing situations that happen, because I think

1168
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: that that is a bigger conversation to have, right when

1169
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: it comes to several other films that have whitewashed people

1170
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: of color. But when it comes to like canon and

1171
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: you know it's not the way it is in the comic,

1172
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't understand the point of getting mad because that

1173
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be like that. Regardless, there's other variables

1174
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: involved as to why a screen adaptation of a book

1175
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: is not line by line what you've read page by

1176
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: page in the comic book.

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Speaker 6: I agree, And for me, like me and Roderick, I'm

1178
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 6: stilled a few so a few episodes, a few books

1179
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 6: comic books behind. But me and Rogerick have read The

1180
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 6: Walking Dad like starting for one, and so a lot

1181
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 6: of people who have read the comics, they get in

1182
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 6: their feelings when it comes to the way the show

1183
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 6: does it. And I'm not trying me funny to me,

1184
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 6: there are some aspects about the show that I.

1185
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 5: Think did a way much better job than the comics.

1186
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: YEP, I agree with that.

1187
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 6: Now that's something that's hard for people who haven't read them,

1188
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: who has read them and going what it's not the same.

1189
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: I wouldn't watch the show. That's just me.

1190
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 6: When when you take a comic and you make it

1191
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 6: into a TV show tell me a different story. Yes,

1192
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 6: we can have certain points, we can have certain landmarks,

1193
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 6: we can have certain character arcs. Yes, but do not

1194
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 6: tell me the identical same story that already no twisted.

1195
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 6: Make it different because they are characters that are live

1196
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 6: on the comics that are not on.

1197
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 5: The show, and vice versa, or some characters.

1198
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 6: That completely made up for just specifically for the show,

1199
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 6: and for me, that's what makes the platform's difference. And

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 6: when you're reading a book, you got ten thousand words

1201
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 6: a description.

1202
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 5: Sometimes i'm watching it.

1203
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 6: You don't have to describe what the person looks like,

1204
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 6: their skin tone, how to hairs wavy, how to light

1205
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 6: a bounds up on their face.

1206
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: I can see the shit. Just show me.

1207
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: Also, it takes like some of these stories, it's just

1208
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 4: not fair to put it to put such emphasis on

1209
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: other mediums, because if you get twelve months to tell

1210
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 4: a story in a comic book, sometimes like sometimes just

1211
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 4: the rite an arc of a comic book is six

1212
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: to eight months, and then people want it encapsulated in

1213
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 4: like a two hour movie or a you know, a

1214
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 4: one hour show. They wanted to get everything from it, and

1215
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: it's just impossible. And also they have to make decisions

1216
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 4: in their medium or else. It feels like it's not

1217
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: their baby, Like if I'm Greg Nikotaro not directing my

1218
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 4: TV show to be exactly what someone just did in

1219
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: the comic book, because at this now, it's like, what's

1220
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: the point of me. I'm just an intermediary, Like I

1221
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: do want to have some control. I remember when the

1222
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: Walking Dead controversial finale aired, I like it ended and

1223
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 4: I clapped. I was just like, I've never seen anyone

1224
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: have the.

1225
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: Balls to do that before.

1226
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: Thank you, you know what I mean, Like, I like,

1227
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: I'll be talking about that about that.

1228
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of nerd rage behind that.

1229
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,479
Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, I was in that group.

1230
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Karen was.

1231
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 4: Karen was living like car. It ended, and if there

1232
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: would have been a camera on our couch, like the

1233
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: reaction was completely different, Like.

1234
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 5: Karen, it was two opposites in that room.

1235
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: It looked like Karen's team lost the game on a

1236
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 4: game when it shot and my team won on that

1237
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: same game when it shot. Because I was just like, wow,

1238
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: oh my god, they blew my mind. And Karen's just

1239
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 4: like what And I'm just like, oh that was you

1240
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 4: don't understand. That was like the craziest way to end it.

1241
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: Now we don't know what happened. It's gonna be it's

1242
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 4: gonna be so crazy for the next six months. It

1243
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: cares like I gotta wait six months. Like it was

1244
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: so wild in this house.

1245
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about it.

1246
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 6: It was because I did a big old fuck you,

1247
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 6: real loud to the TV.

1248
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: She really literally literally said fuck you, Like I.

1249
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 6: Literally screamed at that TV like they could hear me

1250
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 6: and put both my middle fingers up and it was like,

1251
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: fuck you.

1252
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: So good that I could see that, And you know what,

1253
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate the creative liberties that the focks over the

1254
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 2: Walking Dead has done in comparison to the comics because

1255
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: I've also read the comics and way behind that. I've

1256
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: read the comics, and I didn't need to see the

1257
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: rape that happened with micheaon Like I'm glad that they

1258
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: took asided not to show that so too, and you

1259
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So people have to understand some

1260
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: of these liberties are taken because of either the kind

1261
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: of network that it's on, or because that they feel

1262
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 2: like this content is just a little too triggering for

1263
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: audiences to watch and even even Robert Kirkman has admitted

1264
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: to being like, oh, yeah, I wouldn't have done that,

1265
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: Like if now me knowing looking back, would be like, yeah,

1266
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: there's no need to take it there, Like uh, he

1267
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: said he wouldn't have.

1268
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: Cut Rick's hand off, you know what I mean, Like

1269
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: that's a pretty major part of that story, and you

1270
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: know he can never undo it. But but it's little

1271
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: stuff like that where this show gave him a second

1272
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: chance to do things better in his mind. So it's

1273
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: just interesting to see how people react to it. But yeah,

1274
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 4: you're right, I did not want to see what happened

1275
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: to michean happened on that Nope.

1276
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because, like you say, the platforms are different,

1277
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 6: so the visual is kind of different than actually reading

1278
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 6: it through a black and white comic.

1279
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 4: It was hard to read, though. It was like it

1280
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 4: wasn't like like I remember, we were getting all the

1281
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: all the comic book graphic novels like Ham would come home,

1282
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: I got two more, and we'd be like, all right,

1283
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: you know, read them and you know, try to read

1284
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: the first and stuff. And we would then we go

1285
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 4: out and let lunch your dinner or whatever. We're like, oh,

1286
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 4: do you remember when they did this, did you see that?

1287
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 4: But this was like the one time I was like,

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Speaker 4: we don't really need to.

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Speaker 5: That's not.

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 6: That one And one more thing I would like to

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01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 6: sing now since I go back and we talked about

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 6: the way The Walking Dead ended, one thing I can

1293
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 6: sing and one thing I do give the Walking Dead

1294
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 6: kudos for they did what they were supposed to do,

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 6: which is invoke emotions. And I think some people have

1296
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 6: a tendency to forget that feeling is part of the

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01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 6: show and the enjoyment and why you come back, you know,

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01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 6: because even if you was like great or you was

1299
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 6: like fuck you, they invoked an emotion out of you,

1300
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 6: and that's the whole point. And actually it's brilliant and

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01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 6: and it's wonderful and it's one of those things where.

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 5: More show should do that, but they wouldn't have the

1303
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 5: balls to do that.

1304
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 4: Look, they put in work for six seasons. Okay, they

1305
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 4: called their shot man. I have no problem with what

1306
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 4: they did.

1307
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't either.

1308
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 4: It made me look back like cause I knew something

1309
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 4: was up. When they had Glenn live. I was just like, okay,

1310
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: I feel like everyone knew that he wasn't dead. But

1311
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 4: They're like, they're now setting us up to where we

1312
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: need to look at the show and go, oh, despite

1313
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: what you saw, anything could happen, right, And so yeah,

1314
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: now we have that anything could have happened moment and

1315
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 4: they're messing with us, and I like being messed with.

1316
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what to tell y'all. I'm you know,

1317
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: mess with my mom, baby. I'll be back in October, yes.

1318
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 2: And yeah, they have a loyal following enough to where

1319
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,919
Speaker 2: they can do stuff like this and we'll still come back. Yeah,

1320
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, kudos to them. I don't think it's gonna

1321
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: be Glenn. I think because they teased us about his

1322
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 2: death that they're not going to do that to us again. Yeah,

1323
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see who ends up.

1324
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1325
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 2: You know what.

1326
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: You know what's amazing, Jamie is this is now at

1327
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: the point where even if it was Glenn, it would

1328
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 4: still feel like a blow. And that's something I thought

1329
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 4: was impossible because people were saying that it was Glenn

1330
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 4: for all this time, because it was Glenn in the comics,

1331
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I don't think they'll do it,

1332
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: because you won't. Everyone's going to be like I knew

1333
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: that would happen, you know, so it's not a big deal.

1334
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 4: But now it's like they if it was Glenn when

1335
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 4: they come back, I'll still be kind of shocked because

1336
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 4: of that feeling that I had that they gave me

1337
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 4: at the end of this finale, like not saying that

1338
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 4: it would be as shocking as other people. And I

1339
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: still don't think it will be him, but if it

1340
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 4: was him, I would still be like, oh my god.

1341
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: The impact of this moment is more is like the

1342
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: comic book when they killed him, it actually had it

1343
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 4: resonates with me as opposed to you know, oh, of

1344
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: course they got to do this to end this series

1345
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 4: or end the season. They got to kill Glenn or whatever.

1346
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 4: So all right and yes.

1347
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 6: Kam okay, one more thing before we move on. We

1348
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 6: was talking about people about that movies.

1349
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 5: You know what I do.

1350
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 6: I asked people kind of mind frame they was in,

1351
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 6: because that makes a difference on how they view things.

1352
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: If you were tired, if you were sleepy, if you

1353
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 5: were high, if.

1354
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 6: You were drunk, that's gonna affect that's gonna affect your

1355
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 6: view and how you do movies.

1356
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 5: Because I watched movies tired, and if I watch the

1357
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 5: movie tired.

1358
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 6: Most likely it's the most worst shit I've ever seen

1359
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,879
Speaker 6: because I was tired and I wasn't focused.

1360
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 5: So a lot of times of like, hey, how did

1361
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 5: you watch this movie?

1362
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 6: Or if you already win it with the bias and

1363
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 6: fuck this movie, I gotta almost eliminate your opinion too,

1364
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 6: because you were angry going in.

1365
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you like this dog. And I realized

1366
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 4: this a couple of years ago. I'm a narcissist about

1367
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 4: my opinion. I don't really care that much about other

1368
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 4: people's opinions, Like like I don't I don't listen to

1369
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 4: any review shows anymore. Like if someone's like, oh, I'm

1370
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: gonna review that, why do I care? If I watched

1371
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: it myself and I felt a certain way, I don't

1372
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 4: need to know how you felt about it, Like I

1373
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 4: don't mind, Like I don't mind a conversation or critique

1374
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 4: or something like that, but i'd rather it be like

1375
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 4: a personal thing where we talk about something or you know,

1376
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 4: if I read like, oh, this thing in this movie

1377
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: was done badly or whatever, that's cool. I'll read that.

1378
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 4: But as far as like you being like, oh this

1379
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 4: is how I feel about I don't know this is

1380
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: how I feel about finding Dory. I don't care like

1381
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: for the most part, and I don't mean to be

1382
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: cold with it, but it's the truth is, it's never

1383
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: gonna make me not enjoy what I enjoyed or make

1384
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 4: what was bad to me good, you know. So, And

1385
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 4: I've kind of accepted that most people, whether they admit

1386
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 4: it or not, are kind of the same way. Like

1387
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: if someone doesn't like Watchmen and I love Watchmen, there's

1388
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: literally nothing I can say to them that'll make them go, well, now,

1389
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: I like it.

1390
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 6: Rod.

1391
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm glad we argued for thirty minutes, but I've never

1392
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen on the internet, So why are we

1393
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 4: doing it to each other. Let's just accept that we

1394
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 4: have differences and be cool, man. Just don't be like

1395
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: destructive with your differences and stuff. That's all all right.

1396
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 4: We have a couple of news articles to get to

1397
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: and then we'll play our games, all right. But I've

1398
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 4: enjoyed this conversation because I felt like, uh, you know,

1399
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 4: we we never got to really talk with Jamie the

1400
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 4: other time. We went straight to uh reviewing game. All right,

1401
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: So here's some here's some news for you guys. Okay,

1402
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 4: fellow people out there that go on Facebook, you probably

1403
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 4: got social media, right, we all do? You should all

1404
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 4: go out a Facebook when you're watching porn.

1405
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 5: Oh why is Facebook flashing poring up?

1406
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: Well? Apparently, uh since twenty eleven, I guess seven years ago. Uh, well,

1407
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 4: seven years ago. They promised that in two thousand and

1408
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 4: nine that they would not use the like and share

1409
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 4: buttons to track people, but that changed and in twenty

1410
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: eleven the site publicly stated no information we received when

1411
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 4: you see social plugins, it's use the target ads. We

1412
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: delete this information within ninety days. We never sell you

1413
01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: your information. Well, they've changed, They've gone back on their words,

1414
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: and now instead of only tracking you if you click

1415
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 4: the like a share button, they will track you if

1416
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: one of those buttons is on the site you're at,

1417
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 4: regardless of the behavior.

1418
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 5: Oh the shit.

1419
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 4: So if you're streaming porn sites that have like, oh

1420
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 4: do you want to like or share this porn club?

1421
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 4: Which I've never really understood the point of those buttons

1422
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: there because are there people I don't know, maybe there

1423
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 4: are people that are like Facebook, check this out, this

1424
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 4: is what I'm into.

1425
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 6: You know, somebody must be sharing it because they'd be

1426
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 6: like you can share on Twitter, Google.

1427
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, why would you?

1428
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: Right, That's why I need to need to start doing

1429
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 4: and see what everybody can see what I'm into.

1430
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 6: But you know I do something I like, it don't

1431
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 6: mean I want to shit the flash on Facebook?

1432
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 5: Right.

1433
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: I need my followers to really understand me as a person. Everything,

1434
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: as a whole person, everything that is rid you need

1435
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 4: to understand. Okay, you need to know ef any chick

1436
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 4: with bob with bob tits.

1437
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 2: Like, you need to know all my fetish.

1438
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: Right when I you know, I never leave comments on

1439
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 4: streaming porn sites, but unless it is a typo, I'll

1440
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: let the person know, sir that those are not bog tips.

1441
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 4: Those yeah, sir, Come on, ebony, the y goes before

1442
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 4: the end. What are you doing at the end? But yeah,

1443
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 4: so apparently, their new privacy policy says, we collect information

1444
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: when you use, visit, or when you visit or use

1445
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 4: third party websites and apps that use our services, like

1446
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 4: when they offer like or like button, a Facebook log in,

1447
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 4: or use your our measurement and advertising services. This includes

1448
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 4: information about websites and apps you visit, your use of

1449
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 4: our services on those websites, and apps as well as

1450
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 4: information and developer. A publisher of the app or website

1451
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 4: provides to you for US or US. So, yeah, man,

1452
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 4: you you know you might want to log out of Facebook.

1453
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. I won't be logging out me.

1454
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 5: Either, because that's fucking inconvenience. Who want to keep log

1455
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,839
Speaker 5: back here? And every time you go on to Facebook?

1456
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 4: Well, it's also for me, Matt. I kind of like

1457
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 4: when they track my stuff. I love those targeted ads,

1458
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 4: Like really, yeah, I bought I bought two T shirts

1459
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 4: off of I was like, oh, good for you Facebook.

1460
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 4: I did want that basketball T shirt that is, you know,

1461
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm like Tom Cruise in Minority Report

1462
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 4: when he was walking through the mall and it was

1463
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 4: just like, hey, Tom Cruise, don't don't you like them

1464
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 4: slacks that you They got a brown pair? Now you know, Well.

1465
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 6: I'm getting better because I was anti that, But yeah,

1466
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 6: sometimes it reminded me of ship.

1467
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 5: I clicked on. Oh yeah I did want that.

1468
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 6: Right, Like, I like, now I'm blow my money on

1469
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 6: it because you reminded me.

1470
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't got nothing to hide dogs, Like if I

1471
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 4: left something in my eBay gifts of my my I

1472
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 4: mean my Amazon check out basket. Yes, please remind me

1473
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: of Facebook because I am absent minded sometimes and I'm like,

1474
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 4: that is right. I do need that teatriol from a beard.

1475
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 4: I was about to run out, but Facebook saved me. Man,

1476
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 4: thank you Facebook. But yeah, I understand nobody else likes that,

1477
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 4: so I'm okay with that.

1478
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 5: I'm better at it.

1479
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

1480
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm oblivious to all of this because I'm barely on Facebook.

1481
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: Just such an annoying platform for me right now.

1482
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 4: You know it is the problem with Facebook is you

1483
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 4: have to see everybody else's thoughts. Sometimes. What I like

1484
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 4: to do or what I've done is I basically curated

1485
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 4: it so that it only alerts me with certain people

1486
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: that I like when they post.

1487
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: Yep, oh is that a new setting?

1488
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go to friends. First of all, you have

1489
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 4: to turn off your notifications, and you can also turn

1490
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 4: off your front page so that it doesn't show what's

1491
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 4: most recent and it just shows you what you're most

1492
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 4: likely to want to see. And then I go to

1493
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 4: people's pages. I'm like, give me notifications when this person post.

1494
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 4: So now I feel like it's a much safer space

1495
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 4: from me because I'm just like, oh, yeah, I love

1496
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: this person everything they say.

1497
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 3: Let me go check all what do you know? Facebook

1498
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 3: is the greatest?

1499
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 5: Yes, let me like another baby picture. I hate all

1500
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 5: gays knowing like it.

1501
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 4: Actually, it actually saved some people because I know there's

1502
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: still gotta be because I don't actually have however many

1503
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 4: thousands of friends on Facebook, like, I don't how those

1504
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 4: people aren't my friends, and I know there's got to

1505
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 4: be people among them that I wouldn't even really like

1506
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 4: if I got to know them. But I'm never gonna

1507
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 4: get to know them because I've curated my Facebook. So

1508
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: it's probably saving some people from me coming in being

1509
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 4: like so this is homophobic and this is why I

1510
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 4: don't fuck with you like they It probably saved them

1511
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 4: some time. So good for you guys. I don't get

1512
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 4: to see your snarky Beyonce updates and it helps everybody.

1513
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 5: Got time because you're gonna get bees and limons. So yeah,

1514
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 5: we don't. We don't need to be in each other's

1515
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 5: Facebook lines.

1516
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 4: Speaking of nerds stuff and social media, a nerd war

1517
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 4: broke out over Patton Oswath's criticism of movie critics and

1518
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: the Ghostbusters boycott. Uh yeah, uh.

1519
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: First of all, are you boycott and Ghostbusters?

1520
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 4: Are you going to see it?

1521
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: I didn't even know that there was a boycott, so

1522
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: that I'm curious to hear the rest of this story,

1523
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 2: but I'm not that like excited about it, just because

1524
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 2: of what they did with the Leslie Jones character.

1525
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 4: Now, Uh, do you now what? What's what's the deal

1526
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 4: with Leslie Johns? You wish she was a scientist?

1527
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: Or I really? I really do you know? I actually

1528
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 2: was at Tywater Comic Con and Ernie Hudson was there

1529
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 2: talking about his experience with Ghostbusters, and I also read

1530
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: his article that he talked about how he initially thought

1531
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 2: that his character Winston was going to be a scientist,

1532
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 2: and he was given so much agency over this role,

1533
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: and as it turned out, when they started filming and

1534
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: he looked at the script, they cut down like half

1535
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: of his lines and he wind up being the everyday man.

1536
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: So I was kind of hoping that Leslie would have

1537
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: more given that Ghostbuster's original film was in the eighties

1538
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: and we're now in twenty sixteen, that we've gotten a

1539
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: little bit more progressive, But for them to again pigeonhole

1540
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: her as the everyday man and not give her the

1541
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: role of a scientist. I just thought that that was

1542
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 2: problematic for me. You know, we don't get to see

1543
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: many black women scientists on the big screen, especially in

1544
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 2: movies as prolific as Ghostbusters, where it would be impressionable

1545
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: for young black girls to see this film. I just

1546
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: I wanted to see more. And I think I had

1547
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 2: seen your tweets and some other tweets, you know, defending

1548
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: that Leslie Jones is encompassing of all types of black

1549
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: women and that we shouldn't look at ourselves as a monolith.

1550
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 5: But it would have been.

1551
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 2: Nice to have seen her as a scientist and to

1552
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: not fall again into these tropes that I continually see

1553
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: white writers writing for black women that we have to

1554
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: be this. I see black woman that you know, we

1555
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: have to have an attitude. I think there's a scene

1556
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 2: where she's with you know, hanging out with or she's

1557
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 2: saying some sort of line in front of a Cadillac,

1558
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: and like just some of these various stereotypes we get

1559
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: pigeonholed by a lot of white writers, and I just

1560
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: wanted to see more. I'm not boycotting, but I'm not

1561
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: like gonna be rushing to the movie theater to go

1562
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 2: see it.

1563
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 3: I can understand all that.

1564
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: I think, uh my, my main issue with all this

1565
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 4: stuff has been that is not because I saw people

1566
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 4: blaming her, like going on her Stotter account, calling her,

1567
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 4: calling her all kinds of names and stuff that I'll

1568
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 4: never support.

1569
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 2: I don't understand that. What Why go after the actress

1570
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: she is, she got hired to do a role.

1571
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: It's not her fault.

1572
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: Go after the writers, right and to tweeting My my

1573
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 4: my main thing was and for direct I don't have

1574
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: any problem with her character. To be honest, I don't mind.

1575
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 4: From from my understanding, that was actually a role written

1576
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 4: for Melissa McCarthy, but Leslie showed up and showed out

1577
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 4: at the at the casting, and they basically moved Melissa

1578
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 4: McCarthy out of that role because Leslie did it better.

1579
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: She's she's greatest lapstick, which is we're just saying a

1580
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 4: lot because Melissam McCarthy is greatest lapstick. I mean, you know,

1581
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 4: to outdo her is a lot. My problem is why

1582
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: it's only I'll be one black woman in the movie.

1583
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 4: Why it's only gotta be you know what I'm saying,

1584
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 4: Like we always end up fighting over the scraps when

1585
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, there's no excuse that they even if it

1586
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 4: even if it wasn't a black woman, that couldn't be

1587
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: a Latina ghost Buster, that couldn't be.

1588
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 3: Like they think they're.

1589
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: Doing such a and I'm not saying they're not. They

1590
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 4: think they're doing such a like groundbreaking idea to say

1591
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 4: women like look, it's women Ghostbusters. But at the same time,

1592
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 4: it's like, well, why not women Ghostbusters? And one of

1593
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 4: them in the LGBTQ community, why not women Ghostbusters?

1594
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 2: What's her name? McKenny, Kate McKennon. Now she's a lesbian,

1595
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: Right is her role also a lesbian?

1596
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 4: I'm just curious, Right, is Zach Like, it doesn't have

1597
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 4: to stop at well, we just we we've switched the

1598
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: genders and now everything's okay.

1599
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1600
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 4: And the thing is, I do expect Leslie to be

1601
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 4: the funniest part of the movies because regardless of you know,

1602
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 4: how you know, the tropes and stuff. When I watched

1603
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 4: the trailer, she's the only part I laugh at, which

1604
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 4: I think is which I think is kind of gonna

1605
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 4: that doesn't bode well for the movie in my opinion,

1606
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 4: is because you went and got four comedians, and there's

1607
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 4: one that I'm like, oh my god, well wow that okay,

1608
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 4: you got me to chuckle, Leslie. And then the other ones,

1609
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, so when are y'all gonna do some funny stuff? Okay,

1610
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 4: you're making faces and holding guns? Cool. Well, So, so

1611
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,839
Speaker 4: my thing is, I wish we just had more diversity,

1612
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 4: because I don't mind. I think Leslie Jones is such

1613
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 4: a complicated person to talk about because there are people

1614
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: that are kind of a shame of just her type

1615
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 4: of blackness, and she's.

1616
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 5: Been criticized on it so much.

1617
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 6: So I guess for me, that's what my pushback is

1618
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 6: when people's you know, talk about her character, but like

1619
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 6: you say, it's bigger than just her, it's the Writing's like,

1620
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 6: it's a bigger issue.

1621
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 4: It's an entire right product that has been put together.

1622
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 4: And even some of the commentary I saw from the

1623
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 4: writers and from what's his name, Finneberg.

1624
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: With the guy who's directed it.

1625
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, even his commentary sounded kind of ignorant, you

1626
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like they like they were I know,

1627
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 4: they think, oh, we're defending Leslie Jones, But in a way,

1628
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 4: it's like you're making it worse, Like why aren't like,

1629
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 4: what about the very valid critique that this is just

1630
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 4: the one black woman role and that you had, Like what,

1631
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 4: like what makes you so resigned to the fact that

1632
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 4: that racially it has to be the exact same but

1633
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 4: women like like, well, like you couldn't even consider it.

1634
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 4: You know, you have a room full of white women

1635
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 4: writers and stuff like this, Like there's no part of

1636
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 4: you that goes, well, maybe we could have done that

1637
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 4: better or whatever. And I'm not the movie's done. I'm

1638
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 4: not epeaking these people to do interviews and be like, yeah,

1639
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: we fucked up the movie. Guys, don't go see it.

1640
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 4: I understand you gotta sell your product, but the critique

1641
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 4: isn't some outlandish thing, you know. So I, you know,

1642
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 4: I just.

1643
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: Wanted to jump in and just refer to your comment

1644
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: about people being ashamed of Leslie jones blackness or that

1645
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: type of blackness, you know. I that is something that's

1646
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: always been interesting to me because I think that there's

1647
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 2: a large contingent of black women that are very much

1648
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: like Leslie Jones's character. And Leslie Jones is a person.

1649
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: She does this character in her SNL S gets all

1650
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: the time. But my issue is the fact that there's

1651
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: no balance, that that is the only character that we

1652
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: always see when roles are written for black women, and

1653
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: I want to see that balance. I had just done

1654
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: a podcast about Orange is the New Black, and we

1655
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 2: were talking about the black female inmates and how well,

1656
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything, but there's a big

1657
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: spoiler that happens in the show, and one of the

1658
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 2: characters who doesn't fall into a lot of the stereotypes

1659
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: that I always see depicted on the big screen and

1660
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: the small screen when it comes to black women, is

1661
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: no longer going to be on the show. And that

1662
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: just is always disheartening for me as a black nerd,

1663
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: as someone who's kind of outside of the margins of

1664
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 2: a certain type of blackness, and I just want to

1665
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: see women that are like me, and there's so many

1666
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 2: of us out there, and we are completely erased to

1667
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: the point where people think, oh, well, you're not really

1668
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: black if you are into these things or if you

1669
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: speak this kind of way, when blackness is so diverse

1670
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: and it's not a monolith, it's not just this one

1671
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: type of blackness. So to see white writers go down

1672
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: this path assuming that black women are this specific kind

1673
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: of way. That's what I always take issue with. It's

1674
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: not the fact that I take issue with the fact

1675
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: that she's sassy or whatever, because so am I, but

1676
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: the fact that we are always being pigeonholed as being

1677
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: one type of thing, that we are a one dimensional

1678
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: group of women, And I just see this time and

1679
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: time again in these writers rooms, and it's very discouraging

1680
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: for me. So that's the biggest issue and critique that

1681
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: I have about Leslie Jones's character and Ghostbusters.

1682
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think part of it also depends on what

1683
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 4: we're paying attention to, because like, there are you know,

1684
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 4: I think there are offsetting things such as we have

1685
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 4: Blackish where I don't think the show will be the

1686
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 4: same without Rainbow, right, and she doesn't really fit those stereotypes.

1687
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 4: I love that, Yeah, you know that people that I

1688
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 4: think people typically seem to have it. She's still a

1689
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 4: very funny black woman and it's not the same. It's

1690
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 4: not the same, and you know, she's funny and everything,

1691
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 4: but it's not the.

1692
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: Same as like what Leslie does.

1693
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 4: There's uh, you know, we have our Carrie Washington carry Washington,

1694
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 4: but we we have we have our you know, like

1695
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: people from the whole shondaland uh part of of of

1696
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 4: the of the uh black universe. You know, where it

1697
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: is the more quote unquote put together type of professional

1698
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 4: quote unquote blackness. I just I feel like when with Leslie,

1699
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 4: she just kind of existed.

1700
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,520
Speaker 3: This intersection of.

1701
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 4: People are really supportive of her in black spaces because

1702
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 4: there's more understanding of the context of what she does.

1703
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 4: So it's like when she was because she's forty eight

1704
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 4: years old, right, She's been around for for for a

1705
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 4: long time, but it's mostly been to only black audiences.

1706
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,719
Speaker 3: So if you if people knew of her.

1707
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 4: Before Saturday Night Live, percent chance you were just a

1708
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: black person, like and not just a black person, but

1709
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 4: a black person that exists in a certain type of space,

1710
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 4: because she really wasn't breaking out anywhere else. So to me,

1711
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 4: I look at her as a person that put in

1712
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 4: so much work and now she's reaping the benefits of

1713
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 4: this work, and I I and I don't have any

1714
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 4: My opinion doesn't change because white people are seeing it.

1715
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 4: I feel like for some people it changed the second

1716
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 4: that it was like Saturday Night Live. It's like, oh wait,

1717
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 4: white people are gonna be laughing. What are they laughing at? Like,

1718
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 4: are they laughing the way I laugh when I think

1719
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 4: of my aunt? Are they laughing like they're looking at

1720
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 4: Mammy or something? You know what I mean? And that's

1721
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 4: gonna always bother us because this is America and we

1722
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 4: have a complex racial history. I'm trying to kind of

1723
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 4: erase that feeling out of my mind because I realized

1724
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 4: that I was harboring certain certain negative feelings even with

1725
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 4: the other the equal and opposite when they would have

1726
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 4: like a black woman, but she has to prove that

1727
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 4: she's not like the other black people, or you know,

1728
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 4: like Ayisha Tyler, Like when I see Ayisha Tyler in

1729
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: something and the joke is kind of like, well, I

1730
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 4: was smart, I did SATs and I talk white and

1731
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 4: people were kind of I used to feel negative feelings

1732
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 4: about that, like what why you gotta like why why

1733
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: she get to be the black person on Friends? That's

1734
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 4: that's fucked up. But then I realized, like it's always

1735
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 4: just it always comes back to the same place for me.

1736
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 4: There's never enough black people and especially black women. There's

1737
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 4: just never enough. So it always goes to this pressure

1738
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,919
Speaker 4: on the on the performer and the act and the

1739
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 4: writers to make this one black person kind of represent

1740
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 4: a whole lot of different things, and it's kind of

1741
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 4: not fair because they no black person can do it.

1742
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 4: And then the the the negativity that they experienced, you know,

1743
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 4: these people who inhabit these roles and stuff, the negativity

1744
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 4: they experience, to me, is never worth it. It feels

1745
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 4: like we make it thankless to be black and in

1746
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 4: the spotlight, when I would love for all different kinds

1747
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 4: of black people to get the spotlight and for us

1748
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 4: to be like, yo, I root for that person. No,

1749
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm not like that person in every way. We didn't

1750
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: experience everything the same. We don't talk the same, we

1751
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 4: don't use the same slang. But but but it's so

1752
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 4: beautiful that that type of black person is getting on

1753
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 4: and getting focused and other people, and I hope other

1754
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 4: people do too, you know, Like I hope it always

1755
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: leads to more of us getting stuff because I do

1756
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 4: want there to be a Leslie Jones and a Leslie

1757
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 4: Jones type of black woman, you know, in spaces where

1758
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 4: we're like, wow, I didn't think they will put a

1759
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 4: black person in this. But I also don't think any

1760
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 4: of anything would be wrong with having like Why couldn't

1761
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 4: i Ushua Tyler be in that same movie? You know, balance,

1762
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 4: I mean like.

1763
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: Her show that she does the talk with Cheryl Underwood, right,

1764
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: perfect balance exactly, coming from different backgrounds, different perspectives, Like,

1765
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: that is what I want to see. And that what

1766
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 2: that's what reflects real life. That's what we encounter every

1767
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: day when we go to work, or when we go

1768
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: to church, or you know, we're just hanging out with

1769
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: friends in public places. That's what real life is. It's

1770
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 2: not just one type of personality that's encompassing of an

1771
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: entire race of people, right. And and that's what I

1772
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: just want to bring to light is that you know,

1773
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: we are a very digrouse, dis diverse, diverson group together.

1774
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: It's dis a diverse group of people, and and and

1775
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 2: that needs to be accurately reflected.

1776
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 4: And I do and I won't lie. I do have

1777
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 4: distrust of white writers like I do, and I'm never

1778
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 4: gonna not to be honest.

1779
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: So it is a mind for a lot of our

1780
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: content on social media. So you have every right to

1781
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: distrust them.

1782
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 4: And but when they write something I am like, my

1783
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 4: angst typically goes towards the writers because it's up to

1784
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 4: them to kind of disprove how I feel about them,

1785
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 4: and that might not be fair either, But that's kind

1786
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 4: of where I am where when I see something and

1787
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't like the who are of this?

1788
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Like that, Like that's like.

1789
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 4: When my mind goes immediately where I'm like, this representation

1790
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 4: seems kind of whack. Who came up with this? Okay,

1791
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 4: let me guess you think you're still stuck in the

1792
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 4: eighties where the comic relief of black people is, Oh,

1793
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 4: look at this black dude. He sells drugs and isn't

1794
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 4: that funny to put in my show or whatever? And

1795
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 4: you know this black guy he fights with the cops.

1796
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 4: It's like, well that that for me is a very

1797
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 4: serious situation. It's only funny if you don't live in

1798
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 4: our culture and you don't care about it. So it

1799
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 4: is kind of like that where I don't think I'll

1800
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 4: ever quit I'll never really trust most of the writers

1801
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 4: and stuff who put out this content. But in general,

1802
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 4: to me, like Saturday Night Live became better not because

1803
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 4: of Leslie Jones Jamada by themselves. They hired two black

1804
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 4: women writers and now all of a sudden, I see

1805
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 4: clips and I'm like Oh that that is actually better

1806
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 4: And some black people must have been in the room

1807
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 4: to get this, uh, the the one where they had

1808
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 4: like the Emmys or the Oscars like that that little clip.

1809
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, so either black people wrote this or they

1810
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 4: were definitely in the room to show this, because Saturday

1811
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 4: Night Live didn't used to even have enough black people

1812
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 4: to do a sketch about black people not winning awards

1813
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 4: like that like that, like they like they have kind

1814
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 4: of changing. I feel like we like that's the kind

1815
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 4: of stuff I'm on a c C black people who

1816
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 4: was it was a person who directed the OJ I

1817
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 4: forget his name, but the OJ the FX series. He

1818
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 4: has a basically like a quota where he's like, I

1819
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 4: give a certain amount of projects to people of marginalized groups,

1820
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 4: Like if I have ten episodes, six of those have

1821
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 4: to go to people who aren't like white dudes. Yeah,

1822
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 4: that's that's that's what we need, Like, I like, it's

1823
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 4: not just getting an actor shout out to Matt dammit.

1824
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: It's not just in front of the camera, but behind

1825
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 3: the camera too.

1826
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 4: We need that.

1827
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 6: So yeah, and that's the type of shit that matters.

1828
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 6: When you was talking about Saturday Night Live, I see

1829
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 6: more of black Tutor tweeting about it, because for a

1830
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 6: long time, people did not watch that in night live period,

1831
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 6: like they watched it, but they watched it afterwards, or

1832
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 6: you wouldn't see people complain about it the whole time,

1833
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 6: or you might've had a skip every now and then.

1834
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 5: But shout out to Keenan that was like, you know what,

1835
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:29,799
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1836
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 6: Playing no black woman, No goddamn mod y'all need to

1837
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 6: go hire somebody, and shit started, shit started changing it

1838
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 6: for me.

1839
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 4: He caught a lot of flat for the way he

1840
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 4: phrased that, but yeah, if it wasn't for his ass,

1841
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 4: we wouldn't have got any black women working there because

1842
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 4: he was like, I'm playing everybody. Okay, this is getting

1843
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: crazy right now. And they're like, well do they not

1844
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 4: have any black women? It's like, look, I don't know

1845
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 4: if they just not the ones they looking at it

1846
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: ain't good enough or what what I do know is

1847
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 4: not putting on the dressing no more. So figure it out,

1848
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I said, I'm glad

1849
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 4: that he said something though, because yeah, it wouldn't I

1850
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 4: really don't think it would have happened if he hadn't

1851
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 4: said that and if it hadn't have been an uproar uh,

1852
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 4: because it was ridiculous. You can't play Michelle Obama. We can't.

1853
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 3: We can't have a Beyonce.

1854
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 4: These are some of the biggest names in the world,

1855
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 4: and you have a show that mock's current pop culture

1856
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 4: and current events. You don't have any actress that can

1857
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 4: play the roles.

1858
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 6: That was ridiculous, right, And I think for me, like

1859
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 6: you say, either these black women rode or they had

1860
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 6: some influence on the Beyonce when they had the joke

1861
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 6: about the be have coming and killing you, when they

1862
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 6: had the when they was joking about the the white

1863
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 6: folks who realized Beyonce wouldn't was black, like she.

1864
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 4: Wasn't making formation for white folks, right.

1865
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 6: And so that ship they're not just funny, you wouldn't

1866
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 6: have gotten without some kind of black influence.

1867
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 5: Harry. I'm just sorry.

1868
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 6: They might not have even wrote it, but but the

1869
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,520
Speaker 6: idea got pitched.

1870
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 4: Right, and it's better right. You know, I'm right that

1871
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 4: I said that. I was wrote this down earlier, but

1872
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 4: I didn't say it when Vixen showed up on Eron

1873
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 4: regardless of how people go, well, I don't know why

1874
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 4: these black women complaining. When Vixen showed up on ar

1875
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: all of us are like, oh, this is much better.

1876
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 4: Why she should be in this every week. I don't

1877
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 4: know why this took so long. I would watch a

1878
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 4: whole show just for her, Like not a cartoon, but

1879
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 4: a live action show. Let's do it.

1880
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: It always gets better. Stop being mad, you know.

1881
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 4: Anyway, speaking of being mad, these these dudes are boycotting

1882
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 4: not because of anything dealing with race or Leslie Jones.

1883
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 4: They're boycotting because it's women Ghostbusters and they're not. They

1884
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 4: refuse to support for women doing being Ghostbusters. So pat

1885
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 4: Aswalt listen to one of their podcast reviews, Cinema Massacre

1886
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 4: or something like that, cine massacre, and he tweeted about it.

1887
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 3: He said, I really wanted to hate.

1888
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: This, uh cinemassacre review, but I'm such a fan of

1889
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,879
Speaker 4: Noisy Thixslava swallowing it won my heart.

1890
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 5: Uh describe it.

1891
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 4: Uh. He didn't call the guy any names, he didn't

1892
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 4: call him masogynists or a loser, but he clearly doesn't

1893
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 4: support this boycott and uh he said that he was Basically,

1894
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 4: he said, ad fair enough. I like at cinema massacre.

1895
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 4: I'm just uh tired of preemptive criticisms, society imploding. It's gross,

1896
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 4: you know. Uh and and so uh he ended up

1897
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 4: and they were like, well, you you didn't like some movies.

1898
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, I sure did after I saw them,

1899
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 4: right right, he said amen. But he did that old

1900
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 4: timy thing when you see a movie then criticize it.

1901
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: Not cool, you know. So then later he actually apologized

1902
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 4: by saying that his beef wasn't really with this guy,

1903
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 4: but kind of like more this idea that they're just

1904
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 4: everyone just wants to this movie to fail because it's women.

1905
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 4: And he was like, like, you know, I shouldn't have

1906
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: picked this guy, said, you know, still kind of foolish

1907
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 4: that I went on Twitter and went after him, because

1908
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 4: it's not it's really not him. It's more than him.

1909
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 4: It's a lot of stuff. So, of course, being the

1910
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 4: Internet and social media, the fans of this guy started

1911
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 4: responding to Patton Oswald, of course, whose wife just died

1912
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 4: maybe a month or two ago.

1913
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 5: M mm hmm, I didn't know that, and.

1914
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 4: Uh, they responded with, remember when your wife died, it

1915
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 4: was funnier than anything you've ever did in your entire career. Wow,

1916
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 4: Uh so real. At least the guy who does that podcast,

1917
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,799
Speaker 4: at least his wife is still alive, to be honest,

1918
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 4: at Patton Oswald, Uh, just because your wife is dead,

1919
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 4: that's no reason to act like an asshole. Sorry, your

1920
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 4: wife sham move, couldn't get back to the ocean in time.

1921
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 4: Now she's dead, trying to talk about her white weight.

1922
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 4: Did your wife like this? Sorry, said some dude.

1923
01:36:58,240 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 5: So like.

1924
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: That part of nerdom and gamer gay and all right,

1925
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 4: all this stuff combined. It is so ridiculous to me

1926
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:11,799
Speaker 4: at this point because all this because pad and Alsat

1927
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 4: doesn't agree with Boycott in the movie that you haven't seen,

1928
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 4: or you know, like saying that it's impossible for this

1929
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 4: thing to be good without at least seeing it and

1930
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 4: being like, okay, it wasn't good.

1931
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: So and the.

1932
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 5: Sad part, all you did was prove him right.

1933
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 4: That's all you did, right, So anyway, that's just that sucks.

1934
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 2: All right, that's terrible.

1935
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 4: Let's get into our games, guys, Okay, let's try to

1936
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 4: take it to something positive. I'm not gonna do fucking

1937
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: with black people in it for to save time, but

1938
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 4: I feel like everybody listening to this we've all been

1939
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 4: fucked with.

1940
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, all right, guess the race time now.

1941
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: That it is time for some guests the race.

1942
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 4: That's right, it's guess the race time now that it

1943
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 4: is time for some.

1944
01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 3: Guests the race.

1945
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 5: That's right, it's.

1946
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 2: Guess the race time.

1947
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 3: That's right, it's time for guests the race.

1948
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: The number one game show going across all the podcasts

1949
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 4: land where we read the play news articles from all

1950
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 4: over the globe and we asked our contestants today Jamie

1951
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 4: of the Black Girl Nervous podcast to guess the race,

1952
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 4: and the chat room plays along and chatroom is racist,

1953
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 4: all right. A woman has been charged with a deadly

1954
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 4: crime spree and she blames chick fil a. Mm hmm

1955
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 4: a woman is that's right?

1956
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 6: Can?

1957
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 4: A woman is facing several charges after being accused of

1958
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 4: a deadly crime spree.

1959
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 5: So did the cows get gangster.

1960
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 4: Kill more people? A spell wrong on a billboard or something? However,

1961
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,679
Speaker 4: her explanation for the violent crimes has forced a judge

1962
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 4: to order her to undergo psychiatric evaluation. And may authority

1963
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 4: say Christy Nesby over her car onto a sidewalk, running

1964
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 4: down a seventy one year old woman holy shit.

1965
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 5: Ih m hm.

1966
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 4: That spicy chicken Deluxe is good. That woman was rushed

1967
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 4: to the hospital, but she died from her injuries. After

1968
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 4: striking the pedestrian, the suspect carjacked another motorist vehicle and

1969
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,120
Speaker 4: fled the scene southbound on Kyle Parkway, said the police.

1970
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 5: Oh.

1971
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 4: A short distance down the road near Campton Road in

1972
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 4: I seventy five, the suspect committed an additional carjack and

1973
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 4: then fled that scene as well. Wow, grand theft photo man,

1974
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 4: real life, right, I didn't know that easy to carjack people.

1975
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 4: I thought that was just in video games.

1976
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 5: Yes, people must ride around with the y'all.

1977
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 6: Y'all doors are automatically lock after you go about file

1978
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 6: spins on the ties.

1979
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 5: Great.

1980
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 4: Then she wrecked that car, grabbed a gun and attempted

1981
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 4: to carjack another driver. What now was she now? Okay,

1982
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm a little confused. Was she carjacking people before this

1983
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 4: without the gun? Apparently?

1984
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 2: So?

1985
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 4: Like, what was she?

1986
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Get out your car?

1987
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 4: Okay? All right?

1988
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: With the chicken sandwich in.

1989
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,440
Speaker 4: Make me dip these waffle fries in blood, I do it.

1990
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 5: It was a dig man sandwich.

1991
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 3: Officers caught up with her and the rest of her

1992
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 3: own several charges.

1993
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

1994
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 4: Nazzie called nine one one during the crime spree, said

1995
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 4: she wanted to stop, but she couldn't. Ah if trying.

1996
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Not to do this, Okay, guys help.

1997
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 4: Nazzie reportedly told police she went to Chick fil A

1998
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 4: and someone had spiked her drink. A judge has ordered

1999
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 4: a medical evaluation for missus Christy Nesby.

2000
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: Jamie.

2001
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 3: Guess the race.

2002
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say white because most of the people

2003
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 2: I see that frequent Chick fil A are white.

2004
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 4: Mm okay a.

2005
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, staff, the patrons. There's always a long line of

2006
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: cars when I go to Chick fil A, and it's

2007
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 2: usually a whole bunch of white folks with their kids

2008
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 2: in the car, yelling and screaming, got dogs and.

2009
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jamie, going with the odds of how much white

2010
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 4: people freakran Chick fil A. I like this strategy. Let's

2011
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 4: check the chat room and see what they believe. A

2012
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 4: black woman would have blamed Popeyes or bow Jangles. So

2013
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 4: I'm guessing white. Black.

2014
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 3: Also going with the chicken profiling. Yes, I just like that.

2015
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 3: We all know if I would have said KFC, everyone

2016
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 3: would have said white.

2017
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 4: A C.

2018
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 6: HC.

2019
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 4: Says the carjack. The carjack drivers told that white woman.

2020
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 4: I believe you want that car over there. Joe Spacey says,

2021
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 4: had slick Rick slick Rick's Children's story playing in the

2022
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 4: background black, So he's going with black. Everybody else went

2023
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 4: with white. Well, the correct answer is chat room and

2024
01:41:51,120 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 4: Jamie she was black. You guys missed it.

2025
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 3: And one person got it right.

2026
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 4: Congratulations, buddy, Glad.

2027
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 5: I would guess I got that wrong.

2028
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 4: Well, the good news is that Jamie, I mean, Jamie

2029
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 4: missed it. That's the bad news that The good news

2030
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 4: is you're not racist. You know you got.

2031
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you gotta look at the positive side.

2032
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 5: Man.

2033
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 4: All right, let's see, let's give her a chance to

2034
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 4: make it up. Let's go to another one.

2035
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 3: How about how about this one.

2036
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 4: A woman has been banned from all US national parks

2037
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 4: for scrawling her Instagram name on protected rocks.

2038
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 6: Ah me wow, all Instagram.

2039
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,600
Speaker 2: So she's actually writing her name on these rocks and

2040
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 2: instagramming the images.

2041
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 4: And it's her Instagram name. A woman has been banned

2042
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,719
Speaker 4: from all the other US national parks but for defacing

2043
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 4: protected rocks with graffiti, including her social media handle. So

2044
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 4: she definitely wasn't trying to get away with it, Casey

2045
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 4: Knockett as creeping teams on social media posted evidence of

2046
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 4: her Instagram on Tumblr pages. She has been banned from

2047
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 4: going to these public places during her two years of probation.

2048
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,480
Speaker 3: US Magistrate Judge she LOA. K Oberto also.

2049
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 4: Sentenced to twenty three year old to two hundred hours

2050
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: of community work. She will be required to pay a fine,

2051
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 4: which will be decided and hearing that a later day.

2052
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 4: The defendis defacement of multiple rock formations, showed a lack

2053
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 4: of respect for the law, and I shared national treasures,

2054
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 4: said US Attorney Philip A. Talbert. This is why you

2055
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 4: don't want to deface a National park. She dealing with

2056
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 4: like federal judges and federal like.

2057
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this ain't your state, trying to hear that bullshit.

2058
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 4: They ain't got the US attorney man like, damn, it's

2059
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 4: like you picked the wrong rock. Yeah, like you you

2060
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 4: deface this rock and then David from Scandal shows up.

2061
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 4: The National Park Service has worked hard to restore the

2062
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 4: rock formation to their natural state, completing clean up efforts

2063
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 4: in five of the seven national parks. Oh she did

2064
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 4: is seven different places? Oh wow?

2065
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 6: Shit sod a cut your toy already.

2066
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 4: She was gonna she was gonna write a book about

2067
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 4: it and sell it something.

2068
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 5: That's what she was doing. Uh.

2069
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 4: They expect to clean up the complete the cleanup efforts

2070
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:39,880
Speaker 4: at Death Valley and Creter at Crater Lake National Parks

2071
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:40,839
Speaker 4: as weather permits.

2072
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 2: Uh.

2073
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 4: Miss Knocket painted faces and acrylic paint on rocks with

2074
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 4: paranormal panoramic views in various national parks in a twenty

2075
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 4: six day period in twenty fourteen. She signed her graffiti

2076
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 4: with her social media name and own the these social

2077
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 4: media house with photographs of her completing the acts. So

2078
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 4: she like literally caught herself red handed, like look, it's.

2079
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 3: Me doing it, and this is me an act and

2080
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 3: this is the after thing.

2081
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 4: Okay. Some of the vandalism has been difficult to remove

2082
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 4: because of sad blasting and chemical stripping techniques which I

2083
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 4: use to remove paint can be can cause irreplaceable damage

2084
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 4: to rocks and other natural features. She since deleted her

2085
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 4: Instagram in tubularr accounts following public outcry well why did

2086
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 4: you think that good? Though? You know, like you know,

2087
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 4: she just don't know social media because like there's certain things.

2088
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 4: It's just like you do know, everybody's gonna get outraged

2089
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 4: about this, right right?

2090
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 6: You did it something at a National park and people

2091
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 6: are going to be like, hey, let me go check

2092
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:41,719
Speaker 6: this out right here.

2093
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, she recorded a crime like this is soci media

2094
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 2: age that we're in now. Man. People are just they

2095
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 2: don't realize how accountable they will be for their actions

2096
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: the moment they hit that sund button. Like it's ridiculous.

2097
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. See. Now there's fake accounts reporting to be her

2098
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,719
Speaker 4: that's sprung up posting pictures of crimes. In an original post,

2099
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 4: she wrote, it's art, not vandalism. I'm an artist, m h.

2100
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 4: And of course the National parks are your canvas.

2101
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 3: That's okay, all of them.

2102
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 4: I wonder if that was her argument. Look, it is

2103
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 4: a public park. I pay my taxes. I can do

2104
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 4: whatever I want at any rate. I guess the race

2105
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 4: of miss what is her first name, Casey Knockett.

2106
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm gonna say white, because black folks, we ain't

2107
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 2: got time for all that.

2108
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, be, we ain't got time

2109
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 3: for all that.

2110
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 2: She spent way too much time getting involved with this

2111
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 2: rock collection, and uh she did it at seven National

2112
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 2: parks yep. Yeah, she had to get that's a white

2113
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 2: thing to do.

2114
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 4: She had to get travel plans right, because I mean,

2115
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 4: it's not like all the national parks in one area.

2116
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 3: You gotta go, you gotta cross many states. That's a

2117
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 3: lot of planning, all right.

2118
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,799
Speaker 4: Still the chat room, believe who else is so bold

2119
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 4: messing with national parks? White? Black people don't even visit

2120
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 4: national parks white. We didn't recently cover a study where

2121
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 4: it was a very low percentage.

2122
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: But we meet there, y'all.

2123
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 4: It's just not a lot. It's not a lot of

2124
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 4: us pete whiteness. Only white people gentrified Yellowstone National Park. Yeah,

2125
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 4: for yogi and voovoo.

2126
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

2127
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 4: She had that funds for this nationwide vandalism vandalizing spree

2128
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 4: and knew where five national parks were.

2129
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 3: Your privileged dollars at work.

2130
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 4: Yep. Irvin to be the wait trying to be the

2131
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 4: female banksy white All right, well, everybody got it right.

2132
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 4: She was white, and I just put her picture in

2133
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 4: the chat for you guys. So she was. She was

2134
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 4: white and proud of it. She was just like, look

2135
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 4: at me, all right, now let's go to the bonus round.

2136
01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 6: She thought she's being spontaneous. Nobody ever thought about this, right,

2137
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 6: I wonder why?

2138
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 4: Right?

2139
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 2: Right?

2140
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 4: All right? Bonus round. Double the point saying the race,

2141
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:32,839
Speaker 4: double the pon saying the race. That's right, double the points,

2142
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 4: double the race for the bonus round of Guess the race.

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Speaker 4: about how about this one. Police say a group of

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Speaker 4: men were caught in the Holland Tunnel with weapons and

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01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 4: they claimed to be on a vigilante mission. Mm hmm okay, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Carols like a start arrowed on.

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01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 4: A Team Arrow. Team Arrow got caught on the way

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Speaker 4: to stop another one of those truck motorcycle heightsts.

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Speaker 3: You know that is like that is a stable of

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Speaker 3: that show.

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Speaker 4: They will work a truck motorcycle heightst into everything. Yes, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get some flips. We're gonna be jumping off

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Speaker 4: the top of trucks, We're gonna be falling. It's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be glorious.

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Speaker 5: The diesel budget, it's probably off the chain in yeah right.

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Speaker 4: They've done it every single way too. They've done Team

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Speaker 4: Arrow driving the truck. They've done Team Arrow on the motorcycles. Friends,

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Speaker 4: all right, this is already playing, all right, so let

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Speaker 4: me see if I can play this article now.

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Speaker 2: The lead suspects say this stockpile of weapons was part

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Speaker 2: of a plan to rescue a teen in trouble.

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Speaker 4: A teen in trouble. Okay, so one got kidnapped? Was it?

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01:51:54,960 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 4: Uh THEA Let me THEA got kidnapped? Oh yeah, no

2204
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 4: felicity the articles loaded, let me just read it. So.

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01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 4: Three people were caught at an alleged vigilante mission with

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01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 4: an arsenal weapons during a routine traffic stop at the

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01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 4: Holland Tone on Tuesday. Apparently John Cramsey fifty and Dean

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01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 4: Smith fifty three, both of Zionsville, Pennsylvania, and Kimberley I

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Speaker 4: Rent Who's twenty nine of Lee hiton each based several

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01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 4: weapons charges. They were arrested as they passed through the

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01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 4: tunnel at seven forty am. The group claimed they were

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01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 4: vigilantes on their way to extricate a teenage girl who

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01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,760
Speaker 4: was being held by a drug dealer. Initial reports say

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01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 4: the teenage girl was in Queens. The Facebook posts from

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01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 4: Cramsey indicate the girl was will lead to be in

2216
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 4: a hotel room in Brooklyn. Was one of these dews,

2217
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 4: Liam Neeson? Will he be played by Leam Lim in

2218
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 4: the movie?

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01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: They would not stop making those movies. I just don't understand.

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01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 4: I don't have a lot of money. What I do

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Speaker 4: have a special set of skills, skills that make me

2223
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Speaker 4: a nightmare for the twenty fifth dude, for the twenty

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Speaker 4: fifth time.

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Speaker 5: After a while, he's.

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Speaker 6: Gonna be fighting for Christmas Kreme donuts, right, and sandwiches

2227
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Speaker 6: and ship.

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Speaker 3: You're taken my spot the road game or something. You're

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Speaker 3: taking my.

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Speaker 4: Spot in the ten items are less hot and you

2231
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 4: clearly have eleven items. Now, I don't have a lot

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Speaker 4: of money or a lot of time, but what I

2233
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Speaker 4: do have is a special set of skills. Look, man,

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Speaker 4: just take the spot. No, let me finish. I gotta

2235
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Speaker 4: finish my thing. Let me finish the thing.

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Speaker 5: Then you can give me the chemical behind.

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Speaker 4: You, sir. I don't care that much. Man, I'll just

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Speaker 4: go to another line. No, you will listen to I

2239
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Speaker 4: finish my skills. That's how Liam.

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Speaker 2: Neeson gets out of every situation.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he can have it because he did shit.

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Speaker 6: He telled me that on a report, like do you

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Speaker 6: got to report? Dog?

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Speaker 4: I've met put his lunch in the fridge at work.

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01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 4: He's like talking to his lunch. He's like, now listen

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Speaker 4: when the other employ he's coming here, they're gonna take.

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Speaker 2: You, ah and they will eat you.

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01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 4: Right. I'm gonna see I'm gonna put you into crisper

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Speaker 4: I want you to hide back there behind the fruit.

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Speaker 4: But when they come, listen closely because you're gonna be taken.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: No, he made this daughter get under the bed just

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Speaker 4: to get taken. I don't even.

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Speaker 3: Understand that part of the movie.

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Speaker 4: Like couldn't she just like I don't know, waited by

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Speaker 4: the door she was gonna be taking. It's like, here's

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Speaker 4: my dad's on the phone. He would like to talk

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Speaker 4: to you before you do this anyway. Yeah, the dude

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Speaker 4: answered the phone. He was the best because all he

2260
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Speaker 4: goes is good luck and he finds him from that.

2261
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Speaker 3: Like, he found that dude because he said good luck.

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 4: Oh what a great impossible white man movie. Oh my

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Speaker 4: God of all logic, right there, there is zero percent

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Speaker 4: chance he would have found that little girl.

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Speaker 3: Zero And he didn't even care when her friend died.

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01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 4: He found her dead friend and was like, well, shit

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01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 4: happens anyway, No need to tell her parents, right And

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Speaker 4: at the end.

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Speaker 6: Of the movie, they did not charge him with any

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Speaker 6: international laws.

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Speaker 5: He broke so many international laws he.

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01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 6: Did, and nobody from enterpo FBI, nobody was like, hey, doll,

2273
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 6: you came over here killing folks.

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01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 5: You gotta be held accountable.

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01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 3: Right, he's just like they have my daughter and I'm

2276
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 3: Brian Mills.

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01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 4: Oh, Brian Mills. Why didn't you say, I'm sorry, French

2278
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 4: international law is not apply to Brian Mills. I didn't realize. Wow,

2279
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 4: well there's that egg on my face. Anyway, good luck

2280
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 4: with the killing, right.

2281
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 5: You got a shooting free past.

2282
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 4: Ye licensed to kill?

2283
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 5: Literally, license to kill?

2284
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 4: All right, Sorry, we're we're way off topic. So these

2285
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 4: vigilantes said, okay before getting busted with the cash of weapons.

2286
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 4: Police said the trio of suspects certainly was not going

2287
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 4: for subtlety when they decided to head through the Holland

2288
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 4: Tumble Tunnel. They had a big wheeled sport utility vehicle

2289
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 4: that was hard to miss, trim with neon paint, plastered

2290
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 4: with decals for a higher ground tactical of Pennsylvania gun

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01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 4: range and Cramsey is the owner of said gun range.

2292
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 4: Now this won't reveal their race, but I'm gonna put

2293
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 4: the picture of the vehicle in the chat room so

2294
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 4: you guys can see what they were rolling in. Maybe

2295
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 4: they're to assist with your racism, okay. So yeah, So

2296
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 4: then they were pulled over by a port authority Police

2297
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 4: officers who noticed that the gun that they had guns

2298
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 4: in there, and they pulled over the vehicle at the

2299
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 4: entrance when they saw a crack low on their windshield.

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01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 4: So that was it. So he didn't see the guns.

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01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 4: He just saw a crack on the Oh your windshields cracked. Oops.

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01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 4: You guys were coming to kill a bunch of people

2303
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 4: right that now is even more amazing that, like Bruce

2304
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 4: Willis has never gotten stopped like this hasn't been the

2305
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 4: thing that stopped like Diehard seven. You know, just a

2306
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 4: cop being like, sir, you taillight, broh, get out the car.

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01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 3: My god, he's got AK forty.

2308
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 4: Seven is in there. I gotta save my daughter. Man,

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01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. And upon approaching the motor vehicle, the officer

2310
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 4: observed a plane view a loaded pistol and he had

2311
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: the driver exit the vehicle. When the driver got out,

2312
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 4: he noticed a forty five caliber handgun on the driver's seat.

2313
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 4: Inside the suv were a pump action shotgun with pistol

2314
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 4: gripping collapsible stock. Goddamn, a SA R ninety eight Salamander

2315
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 4: Arms assault rifle, seven clips of ammunition for the rifle,

2316
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 4: four nine milimeters pistols, one forty five caliber pistol with

2317
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 4: several magazines, a kevlar bullet resistant helmet with camouflage cover,

2318
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 4: tactical goggles, knight vision goggles, body armor, and a partridge

2319
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 4: and a pear tree come. Some of the guns were loaded.

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01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 4: Sources say the suspects told police they were on their

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01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 4: way to the city to rescue a friend who had

2322
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: been held hostage by a drug dealer. Now, I want

2323
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 4: to know whatever happened to a friend?

2324
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 5: Right, They ain't worried about the friend?

2325
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said on Facebook. The young lady is scared

2326
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 4: to death and wants to go home to her folks,

2327
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 4: along with graphic greeting enough is enough in bold face

2328
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,760
Speaker 4: read letters. You know what, I bet you somebody just

2329
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 4: siniched up them. They were posting this on Facebook, and

2330
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 4: then the police just lied and said, oh, yeah, we

2331
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 4: saw a cracking the windshow.

2332
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 3: But they probably were, like, be on the lookout for this.

2333
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 4: Loud green vehicle SUV with a gun company on the side, right. Uh.

2334
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 4: Cramsey's twenty year old daughter, Alexandria, died from a heroin

2335
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 4: over those four months ago Tuesday, and he has since

2336
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 4: attended town hall meetings across around the Alentine area to

2337
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 4: voice his concerns over the drug epidemic. Yeah, heroin is

2338
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 4: really bad in this area in Pennsylvania. It was like

2339
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 4: a whole documentary on it on HBO.

2340
01:58:59,400 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

2341
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 4: This is a and we are losing our brightest, most

2342
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 4: brilliant minds, he told the newspaper shortly after his daughter

2343
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,840
Speaker 4: was found dead of an overdose with another man inside

2344
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 4: of an Allentown home.

2345
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

2346
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 4: Check on that man. He's probably been shot up at

2347
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 4: this point, not not by heroin, by guns. Friends of

2348
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 4: Cramsey told CBS two's I l o Uh. He feels

2349
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 4: tremendous guilt and began enough is Enough campaign.

2350
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

2351
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 4: He also put decals on this truck reading shoot your

2352
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,920
Speaker 4: local heroin dealer. Oh Jesus oh. Uh. Ever, since his

2353
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 4: daughter died, I think it was one of those things

2354
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 4: he wishes he could have done something to say. Right

2355
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 4: now that she's gone, he feels this guiltness heart and

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Speaker 4: he needs to help other people. Man, Christopher Nolan's gonna

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Speaker 4: direct this. Yes, so Yeah. While Cramsey likely would have

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Speaker 4: known about the tough gun laws of New Jersey in

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Speaker 4: New York as a licened firearm dealer, they said his

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Speaker 4: friend was not been a nick Nickasher says his friend

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 4: has not been thinking straight since his daughter died. He

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01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 4: was about to kill a whole bunch of other people's

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Speaker 4: family too. So apparently they're still investigating the claims about

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Speaker 4: the daughter, about this girl who's been held against their will,

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Speaker 4: they don't police apparently haven't found her yet, but they're

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Speaker 4: looking into it. Uh So they go and then of

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Speaker 4: course the police wanted to make it clear this is

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Speaker 4: not terrorism at all, guys. Okay, so just they wanted

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Speaker 4: to clear it up. White people heading through the tunnel

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Speaker 4: with a whole bunch of guns ready to go shoot

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Speaker 4: up Brooklyn not terrorism.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so you're not terrorized the drug dealer community.

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Speaker 4: White people cannot commit terrorism, Karen. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you've got the memo. It is impossible. The second you

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Speaker 4: commit terrorism is a white person, you turn into some

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Speaker 4: other type of person. That's what happens. Okay, So that's

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Speaker 4: the rules. That's the rules. Jamie gets the race of

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Speaker 4: the vigilante crew, and they're all the same race, by

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Speaker 4: the way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I feel bad for always picking the same one,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go with white on this one. I

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Speaker 2: think because they're probably a disgruntled group of former Arrow employees,

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Speaker 2: take it a little too far.

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Speaker 6: Uh, they got they will, they were they will.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The ghost one of the ghost was like, and we

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02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:29,320
Speaker 2: know Arrow doesn't really have a whole lot of black

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Speaker 2: people and their staff, so.

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Speaker 3: Curtis may have called in sick this day.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. Uh, let's see crackers without cheese. We're all

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Speaker 4: the white power ranger. Uh man who was long time

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Speaker 4: man who is a longtime member of the n r A,

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Speaker 4: make America Great Again, duck dynasty. White really we the people? Okay, white,

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Speaker 4: pry those guns out of my cold dead white hands,

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Speaker 4: Obama GI Bros.

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Speaker 3: White suicide cheese squad.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the correct answer is and uh, everybody got it right.

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Speaker 4: They were white. And the picture in the chat room

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Speaker 4: is the selfie they took on the way to go

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Speaker 4: kill these people.

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Speaker 3: They look so happy. It's like they're taking a family

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02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:23,280
Speaker 3: road trip.

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02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 5: Like, hey, kill people. Look guys on.

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Speaker 4: The way to go kill up from people.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they posted on Facebook, Oh god, right with people.

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Speaker 6: They don't realize how public platforms and then they shit,

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02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:38,280
Speaker 6: don't be private.

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Speaker 4: How are police even catching us before social media? That's

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Speaker 4: all I want to know exactly like police can be fat,

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Speaker 4: neat done as now, dog, what's the point they gonna

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Speaker 4: tell you what they did.

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Speaker 2: You don't need detective skills anymore, just a Twitter account.

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Speaker 4: That's not that I've ever committed a crime, But if

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02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 4: I was, I wouldn't be like out here like Yolo,

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02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 4: breaking the law real quick, doing the seventy five and

2416
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 4: a thirty five. Come holler at me, picture of my speedometer,

2417
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 4: another picture of my face, you know.

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02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 2: Snap chatting it away while you're doing that.

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02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want the police to have to do any work,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 4: Last thing that we talk about every episode, we gotta

2422
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 4: spread awareness about very serious issue that is plaguing the

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Speaker 4: entire world, and that is sword of ratchetness. Go play

2424
02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 4: my mom no long sound effect? And now he's that

2425
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 4: should have helped that person's daughter with the heroin this one?

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02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 4: Is it sounds adorable? Okay, it sounds adorable, and I

2427
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 4: know it's nerds. A lot of you guys are going

2428
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:05,000
Speaker 4: to suppor this, but I'm against this propaganda. Okay. Newlyweds

2429
02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 4: climb a mountain and have a sword fight Highlander style

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Speaker 4: for their dream wedding pictures.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not. Nope, what if she would have failed?

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02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 4: What if this would have been an elaborate plot for

2433
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 4: one of them to kill the other one. I don't like.

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02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 4: Plus it does it goes against Highlood and lord h

2435
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 4: there can only be one so you can't even really

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02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 4: marry another Highlander because you got to kill Oh yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: Duncan McLeod would be ashamed of these people.

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Speaker 2: They have to get up on a mountain and do

2439
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 2: this though, That's what I want to know.

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02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, guess the race white? Uh, you know, I'm not

2441
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 4: gonna say why. A couple went to New Heights to

2442
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 4: create their dream wedding picture climbing a famous peak to

2443
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 4: stage a sword fight. Keen climbers Mail Morele thirty one

2444
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:57,840
Speaker 4: and Stephen Hill thirty seven visit first visit the Isle

2445
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:02,280
Speaker 4: of Sky just before becoming an item six years ago.

2446
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 4: They vowed to clined iconic kiyosch I don't know how

2447
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 4: to pronounced that made famous by the Highlander movie for

2448
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 4: their perfect photo, and finally made it last week.

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02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 3: Two years after getting married.

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02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 4: Mail and Steve from Swansea packed their wedding outfits and

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02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 4: climbed the summit and once they reached the top, they

2452
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 4: took out a couple of theatrical swords and carried out

2453
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 4: a mock duel if one of them would have fall fallen.

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02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:29,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this is like actually the perfect plan

2455
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 4: for like in ten years, if he just wants to

2456
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 4: kill his wife or she wants to kill him, Like

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02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 4: it would make a real good episode of Snap because

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02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 4: it would be like, no, we went up there to

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02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,879
Speaker 4: celebrate our tenth year anniversary and he just slipped.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know what happened.

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02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the camera didn't catch that part. I don't know. Steve,

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02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,760
Speaker 4: a tech company director, said, the first time we went

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02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 4: up Kiyoch, we were We went up a really complicated route,

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02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 4: never actually managed to reach the summit and ended up

2465
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 4: app sling down in the dark. Every time we've come

2466
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 4: back since we got married, the weather it's been terrible.

2467
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 4: We were worried it might not happen again. Last week. Thankfully,

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02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 4: the clouds cleared in time and we got some great photos.

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02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 4: By the way, someone else had to climb another peak

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Speaker 4: to take the pictures. That's the real MVB, because my

2471
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:19,040
Speaker 4: black ass would have been like, hey man, I'm gonna

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02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 4: take pictures from down here, y'all lean over a little bit.

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02:06:22,840 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 4: Y'all can't see the swords from the ground, but another

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02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 4: person climbed up there to help them out.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: So there you go, man Soword propaganda one on one. Okay,

2477
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,280
Speaker 4: So then this marriage will have sowreds in it. And

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Speaker 4: when we read about them later and some domestic rond stuff.

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Speaker 4: Remember where you heard the first guys, Okay, support Jamie

2480
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Speaker 4: and Black Girl Nerds. Okay, guys, Patreon dot com slash

2481
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Speaker 4: Black Girl Nerds. Support the content creators that you guys. Uh,

2482
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 4: you know that feeds you. You know, Jamie and the

2483
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 4: whole crew over there, they speak for a lot of people,

2484
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Speaker 4: and they speak with a lot of people, and a

2485
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 4: lot of people have found voices through Black Girl Nerds.

2486
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,880
Speaker 4: Like what you do is very important, and it's really

2487
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 4: important that you guys have that space. And you know,

2488
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 4: there's issues that I learned about via Black Girl Nerds.

2489
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:15,840
Speaker 4: There's things I learned about via Black Girl Nerds. I

2490
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 4: didn't even know one of my favorite comic books, Rat Queens,

2491
02:07:19,400 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 4: was so messed up, like I had to read I've

2492
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 4: read about that on Black Girl Nerds. I'm just like, oh, well,

2493
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 4: I guess I'm done, you know.

2494
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 5: And Roger told me, I was like, well, shit, I

2495
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 5: was behind. I was like, well, I guess I'm glad

2496
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Speaker 5: I never caught up. I'll be deleting you, right.

2497
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Speaker 4: And because it's nerdom and because it's blackness, and because

2498
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:42,200
Speaker 4: it's women, you know, there's always like constant controversy and

2499
02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:44,520
Speaker 4: stuff when people are really just trying to have a

2500
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 4: good time. But you know, I really do love and

2501
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 4: appreciate you, not just Jamie, but the whole space that

2502
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:56,480
Speaker 4: you created, and so many people have been enriched from it.

2503
02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,160
Speaker 4: And I hope that people take the time out to

2504
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 4: give back, you know, Patreon dot com, black Girl Nerds,

2505
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 4: black girlnurves dot com, slash t shirts, Uh, support people

2506
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,520
Speaker 4: like this because, like I said, it's it's a toll.

2507
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 4: You know, she has a nine to five. Uh you know,

2508
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 4: she she woke up at ten am to take a

2509
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:16,920
Speaker 4: couple hours out her day to kick it with us.

2510
02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 4: And I'm sure that that work never stops. There's always

2511
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 4: some new thing to post, there's always some new opinion

2512
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 4: to respond to. There's always some troll on Twitter. The

2513
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:29,040
Speaker 4: people that don't like you will always take the time, always,

2514
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 4: and the people that that love things will sometimes sit

2515
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 4: on the sidelines until something's gone and then be like, well,

2516
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 4: what happened to? Well, let's not let Jamie be what

2517
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,440
Speaker 4: happened to. Let's make sure we support Black Girl Nerds

2518
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 4: and follow them on Twitter at black Girl Nerds and

2519
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 4: all that good stuff, because you know, it's really important

2520
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 4: that we got we got Jamie out here. Thank you

2521
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 4: so much, No problem, man, keep doing your thing.

2522
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Speaker 5: Man.

2523
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Speaker 4: You you exist in that intersection of of catching it

2524
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 4: from everybody, you know. I'm I'm not necessarily envious of

2525
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 4: more followers, more problems. Man, I just be like, oh, like,

2526
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 4: oh no, not today, not today, y'all. But but yeah,

2527
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Speaker 4: I'm really we're really proud of you over here and

2528
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 4: really happy for you, and we hope, you know, you

2529
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 4: gave even more success and stuff because you also put

2530
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:24,560
Speaker 4: a lot of people on this stuff and you know,

2531
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 4: it's really been cool to be able to maintain this relationship.

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Speaker 3: Especially at the hashtag gate.

2533
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Speaker 4: Man, I was just I felt like so many people

2534
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 4: just wanted to see like a fight, you.

2535
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

2536
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 4: And I think right, you know, and I just was like, man,

2537
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,320
Speaker 4: I have love for everybody. I'm really trying to keep

2538
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 4: it going because it's enough stuff with blackness already ostracizing

2539
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 4: each other and stuff and whatnot. Like, I really want

2540
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 4: us to be able to come together. And congratulations on

2541
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Speaker 4: Comic Con, and I hope you guys have fun out there,

2542
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 4: because I remember last year when you were like, we

2543
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 4: need to be up at Comic Con and I was like, oh,

2544
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,480
Speaker 4: here we go. I was like, I don't know how

2545
02:10:04,520 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 4: this is gonna go.

2546
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 5: We were about to see.

2547
02:10:06,640 --> 02:10:08,960
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you guys got in there, man, because

2548
02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 4: you know that's the space that I would love to

2549
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:14,840
Speaker 4: see y'all in. So all right, we'll be back tomorrow

2550
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 4: talking about all kinds of stuff, and then Tuesday we'll

2551
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 4: be recapping the finale Game of Thrones at six thirty

2552
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Speaker 4: with Beauty Jackson from Good and Terrible and Justin will

2553
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Speaker 4: be here too, guys, so it'll be super fun.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see you guys then.

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Speaker 4: Until then, go to get Beltle dot com co tbg WT,

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Speaker 4: and go to get our album sun Spot Another Ratchet.

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Speaker 4: It's on iTunes of Amazon. Till then, Love you