Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: All Right, ladies, we have Cheryl Brooke coming on. Did
Speaker 2: you guys watch the new episode of Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars it just premiered.
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I loved it, know.
Speaker 5: I did not, But I just Cheryl wildly and coordinated.
Speaker 5: Every time I watch something like that, I really want
Speaker 5: to but then I just mean.
Speaker 6: I just really love the emotions. I like the packages,
Speaker 6: like I like, you get to know these pea packages.
Speaker 6: I'm very curious about the Anna situation. I'm just I
Speaker 6: just have mixed feelings on that, but I'm curious to
Speaker 6: see how she feels about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was fun to watch back. But
Speaker 2: she's actually on now, so should we just let her in?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hi, Cheryl, congratulation, thank you.
Speaker 1: You look gorgeous. Anne your wedding picks.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm like the last time I saw you,
Speaker 2: we were dancing in Vegas. I was very pregnant and
Speaker 2: we were dancing to waterfalls.
Speaker 4: Was it? I just I remember looking at you and
Speaker 4: being like.
Speaker 1: You were grabbing me. You're a pregnant and you're barefoot
Speaker 1: and pregnant. You're like let's go.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I was like, we just got to
Speaker 2: rip the band aid girl and just go sing no
Speaker 2: scrubs and just rip the like let's just do it,
Speaker 2: let's just going.
Speaker 4: It was I feel like it was what right for you?
Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit, It's like, you know what, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Because I'm also a fan of hers. I still am
Speaker 1: like regardless, who cares, like hope you're happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: Well I think that's a really good place to get
Speaker 2: to too, like it especially because how long have you
Speaker 2: been divorced? Now?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, almost three years?
Speaker 4: I think has it been three years.
Speaker 1: Or like at least two and appt I mean I
Speaker 1: don't because I feel like coming up this holiday, it'll
Speaker 1: be like three years.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because I think like the first year you're
Speaker 2: still kind of dealing with, like, at least for me,
Speaker 2: I'm only speaking on my personal was like for sure
Speaker 2: deal with like resentment and like still kind of angry.
Speaker 2: And then the second year you're like I don't really
Speaker 2: care anymore. In the third year, like oh hey, what's
Speaker 2: up like high fiving, like don't you know?
Speaker 1: This is like so it was like really sad my
Speaker 1: second year I think, I think. I was like I
Speaker 1: think like you, it was resentment, and then it was
Speaker 1: oh I feel sad, and then there was a lot
Speaker 1: of like self talk, negative like how did I do
Speaker 1: this to my like you know, and then now I'm
Speaker 1: going through the like compassionate trying to find and heal
Speaker 1: like wounds. You know. That got me to where I
Speaker 1: am today in a good end, not so good way,
Speaker 1: you know, right?
Speaker 4: Does the dating scene over?
Speaker 1: Hi?
Speaker 5: I'm Kristen. I am always fascinated with the dating scene.
Speaker 4: Right now.
Speaker 5: I feel like several of my girlfriends are in the
Speaker 5: mix and they're like, this is brutal.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm not choosing to be in it,
Speaker 1: so I have no idea what it's like. But what
Speaker 1: I hear is it is brutal.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're like Chloe Kardashian, She's like, I got a
Speaker 2: zero interesting today and like that's okay.
Speaker 4: I want to be with my kids or do you know, do.
Speaker 1: What I want to be with my friend Gie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's and you know that's I feel like
Speaker 2: that's healthy too, But people find it it just.
Speaker 3: Sounds exhausting dating what Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: I have zero interest, and I don't know, like, okay,
Speaker 1: in all honesty, you know, as we we are. I mean,
Speaker 1: my therapist was like, I'm a little worried about you
Speaker 1: because it's like you're really enjoying this single and like
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you know, I've been talking to her
Speaker 1: for like twelve years right consistently, and I'm like, but
Speaker 1: isn't that something that like, first of all, she's never
Speaker 1: known me single. I've been a serial dater my whole life,
Speaker 1: So I think for me, I'm just also learning like
Speaker 1: who I am, what do I like, what don't what
Speaker 1: don't I like, and trying to find peace within myself
Speaker 1: to then hopefully when I am ready or whatever happens.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever ready, Like if a
Speaker 1: certain person comes into my life that I'll be attracted
Speaker 1: to that energy, if it if it's a positive or not,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't really know. All I'm
Speaker 1: doing right now is focusing on and choosing me at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 4: I think that's great.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that I should.
Speaker 2: Have done more of that in my life, oh instead
Speaker 2: of just like chased relationships and gone on to the
Speaker 2: next person, like I should have taken just the time
Speaker 2: to be alone. And I did that a little bit
Speaker 2: before I met Alan, but more so in my life.
Speaker 6: Well, we were talking about that the other day with like,
Speaker 6: You're like, if I could go back, if I could
Speaker 6: have just not worried about boys in high school?
Speaker 3: Hell in my twenties, time to worry about that.
Speaker 4: You just don't think you have time?
Speaker 2: No, No, I know it's going to be a only
Speaker 2: man that's going to love me, the one and only man.
Speaker 1: I'm so upset, like I would be that obsessed woman
Speaker 1: that it was like the whole this person was consuming
Speaker 1: my whole life, my thought process everything.
Speaker 5: What does that have to like an absolute must essential
Speaker 5: for someone if you meet them?
Speaker 4: What's your like? I mean, I don't. I don't know that.
Speaker 5: We all do dream guys at our age. I feel
Speaker 5: like that's a little I don't dream.
Speaker 2: I had a dream list of like what I wanted,
Speaker 2: like I wrote my guy out, put it in my bible.
Speaker 4: I really need to be six something or you know,
Speaker 4: like would can he be.
Speaker 3: For sure?
Speaker 1: Wait? Did you marry lovely? I did?
Speaker 2: I literally did? I every I was I wrote exactly
Speaker 2: the man like that I know exactly exactly with this
Speaker 2: kind of accent.
Speaker 4: Didn't get the accent. No, But I mean, like you know,
Speaker 4: I just wondered how specific I mean your journal to do.
Speaker 1: No, I have to say that was the him now
Speaker 1: well now, Hrshebak. Back in the day, Kim Johnson, we
Speaker 1: did we did that as well, and it was so funny. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's funny that we're talking about this because I just
Speaker 1: found the picture of us holding our list or her
Speaker 1: holding her list, and she did the same thing. She
Speaker 1: wrote it all out and she now is married to
Speaker 1: Robert Hershebak from Shark Tank, and it's so funny. How Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's called manifesting, really.
Speaker 2: Isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, Just do you say a prayer to God?
Speaker 5: Do you have a man for your manifest Is there
Speaker 5: an ideal guy?
Speaker 1: Not really, I think now that I'm forty, it's more
Speaker 1: like a partnership. It's to find a companion and uh,
Speaker 1: someone that I you know, am also physically attracted to.
Speaker 1: But I think in my past it was like it
Speaker 1: has to be physical, we have to have the best sex.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's so too because I mean.
Speaker 5: As much as you know, I mean, you got across
Speaker 5: it off cherlds really saved me long.
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I'm celibate for three years
Speaker 1: and I am spars. I'm concerned me and my you
Speaker 1: know what are doing great?
Speaker 4: Are you? Are you getting the blessa vibrator?
Speaker 3: Did you stand code very sponsored?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: You know it's funny.
Speaker 2: Is this is a this is a total sidebar. But
Speaker 2: you know I had a few. This is so funny.
Speaker 2: So did you watch the Secret House or the Secret
Speaker 2: Wives of Mormon lives or whatever?
Speaker 3: No, Secret Lives of Mormon.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, by the way, I know I can never
Speaker 2: say that the title, It's so hard, but I so
Speaker 2: this is probably like like what two years ago was
Speaker 2: my first vibrating the campaign?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 4: Like two years ago camp campaign? No, no vibrating was.
Speaker 2: I was a late bloomer with vibrating last year? Wait
Speaker 2: ever masturbating or vibrating guys?
Speaker 4: Bring it back, hey Cheryl back to you?
Speaker 1: But no, no, I have to know the answer vibrating
Speaker 1: or masturbab.
Speaker 5: Well you guys both because I don't like I say
Speaker 5: that master until last year, I stay till unwind down
Speaker 5: all the time, like I'm such an emotional connection person.
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm like this vibrator is good because you
Speaker 1: can't grow feelings for it.
Speaker 4: I need to look in someone's eyes.
Speaker 5: I guess wait really last year really the first time
Speaker 5: was like two maybe two years ago.
Speaker 4: We got it, but I didn't even know where to
Speaker 4: start with them.
Speaker 5: And then if you start to google, it just gets
Speaker 5: really out of control and I just and then the
Speaker 5: ads your algorithm.
Speaker 3: You got to stay really button.
Speaker 1: You have to be careful because then they.
Speaker 4: Get really racy, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Let me just give you a note if
Speaker 1: it's anyone who's listening it, don't thee whoever invented the
Speaker 1: charger like charge, who wants to charge a vibrator? Like
Speaker 1: when I want to use it? I want to use
Speaker 1: it now, put a good old double a battery.
Speaker 4: And then when I died, you, when you're using it, mother,
Speaker 4: charge it.
Speaker 1: Like a like hell that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but I didn't. My first vibrator was after
Speaker 2: post divorce. I didn't have a vibrator like yeah, so
Speaker 2: actually no, that's a lie. I did have a very
Speaker 2: very small one, like like one one time, and that
Speaker 2: was Los Angeles, a pocket rocket, yeah yeah, or something.
Speaker 1: That's all I've ever done. Yeah, that was a late
Speaker 1: thing else.
Speaker 2: I was late to all that, and I think, did
Speaker 2: I give you your first vibrator?
Speaker 3: No, that wasn't my first, but you did get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: Long story, but I was watching that and so I
Speaker 2: started with Blessa and I did a campaign for them
Speaker 2: because I'm like, you know what this is paying well
Speaker 2: and why not?
Speaker 4: Like, yes it is, you know, love love.
Speaker 2: Our body's got to support the kids, right, So absolutely
Speaker 2: the whole thing. And then when I met Alan, I'm
Speaker 2: like hey, and he's a very appropriate, conservative and wonderful yes,
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, hey, so I have because like
Speaker 2: you can delete them on your infeed right, so like, yes,
Speaker 2: eventually you can delete it, so we do once that
Speaker 2: date comes and and so I'm like, so can I
Speaker 2: I was like, this is the thing that I've promoted before.
Speaker 2: It's a vibrator, and he was just like, it's going
Speaker 2: to look like I can't please you. I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: like it's actually like it's not. And I'm like, but
Speaker 2: this is the price tag on it, and it's a
Speaker 2: really good price tag. But then I found out that
Speaker 2: Whitney from the Mormon Show was getting twenty k for
Speaker 2: her post and so they just they literally just sent
Speaker 2: me an ad and I go, well, now that I
Speaker 2: know Whitney's making twenty K, I want to hire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have another one coming up here in November. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I signed a two vibrator deal. Girl, But now that
Speaker 1: I know that someone's getting paid twenty it just makes
Speaker 1: a big question everything.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're welcome, but yeah, so I mean, yeah, all
Speaker 2: about that self love, self love, the.
Speaker 4: Vibrator conversation. But we did so I was.
Speaker 1: Saying that it's just been me in my little pocket rocket.
Speaker 5: That's right there, we went, and that's all I need
Speaker 5: right now. So yeah, yeah, does your does your dream
Speaker 5: that I have to dance? That was actually my main question.
Speaker 5: We went off on this tangent.
Speaker 4: He doesn't need to be able to dance?
Speaker 1: No, you know, I don't know. I guess people just
Speaker 1: assume in a way, like when we go out whenever
Speaker 1: I go out, which is very rare, but when I
Speaker 1: used to go out like dance, and I'm like, but
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I like to observe. I also feel
Speaker 1: like I like to have conversations with people who may
Speaker 1: not have the same passion as me as well, like
Speaker 1: I like to not always just talk about you know
Speaker 1: what I used to do for a living, which is
Speaker 1: a ballroom dance. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What was because obviously would you would you go back
Speaker 2: on the show if they asked you to come back
Speaker 2: as a pro?
Speaker 1: No? I left because I was only not only I
Speaker 1: was very grateful for my time, but I was done
Speaker 1: being a pro.
Speaker 4: Yeah you wanted to host, right?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean not even just I meant judge. I
Speaker 1: think I would be a better judge because I am
Speaker 1: an expert in ballroom and I think that considering that
Speaker 1: this show I think is still a ballroom show, though
Speaker 1: it's questionable at times, I believe I could help actually
Speaker 1: help people, you know, be better.
Speaker 2: M What was who which judge did you rub against
Speaker 2: the most when you were competing or when you were
Speaker 2: you know, competing with the with the celebrity.
Speaker 1: It just depends on the celebrity. Honestly, it was, I
Speaker 1: mean definitely each of them. At some point of my
Speaker 1: twenty six seasons, I was there.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, what did Okay, who's your standout?
Speaker 1: Did you watch it?
Speaker 4: I watched pieces?
Speaker 1: Okay, So for me, I Brandon and Chandler, and I
Speaker 1: have to say, as I've been doing these reviews on
Speaker 1: my podcast. I've been really hard on Brandon because I
Speaker 1: don't feel like it's what's missing for me is like,
Speaker 1: how come the pros are not getting notes either, because
Speaker 1: we're like fifty percent of this partnership. So if there
Speaker 1: is an issue when it comes to choreography, though you're
Speaker 1: not saying our names like we're there's no necessary to
Speaker 1: read between the lines, like just tell me my choreography
Speaker 1: needs to be better and that'll make the partnership better.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what's missing. So I've been doing
Speaker 1: that on my podcast with like sometimes with Brandon, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you need to really hone down on the technique. And
Speaker 1: for the first time I saw it last night when
Speaker 1: he did his tango with Chandler. Though she has dance experience,
Speaker 1: I was more proud of him as a pro dancer
Speaker 1: than anything but Dwight. I mean, it was flashy. Danielle
Speaker 1: loves to be thrown in the air, and I think
Speaker 1: it's great, but I want I wonder what they're going
Speaker 1: to look like when they have an actual dance with
Speaker 1: no lifts and stuff like that. I think the level
Speaker 1: of competition is a lot higher than last season, and
Speaker 1: I really wish Anna Delby was with Bell not Ezra. Okay,
Speaker 1: why because she needs to be born a part, she
Speaker 1: needs to be a human being, and she has yet
Speaker 1: to show any vulnerability whatsoever. I just need to see
Speaker 1: some sort of feeling like something, because after hearing her
Speaker 1: interview with Call Her Daddy with Alex Cooper, it was like, again,
Speaker 1: there was just I'm trying to actually have compassion for her,
Speaker 1: but she didn't has yet to show that she has
Speaker 1: any type of or hold herself accountable for what she
Speaker 1: has done, and I don't think I don't know if
Speaker 1: that is possible for her or not, but I think
Speaker 1: it's important to see the human side of Anna Delby,
Speaker 1: whatever her realize.
Speaker 2: Well that's my question too, like because I almost feel like,
Speaker 2: and I don't know the whole I never watched Inventing
Speaker 2: Anna mm hmm.
Speaker 4: But she broke a lot of laws, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean she's got a she's house arrest.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, So how is someone then why are we
Speaker 2: almost celebrating that piece of celebrity that that was like wait, what, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with I have zero issues and I think
Speaker 2: it's great when they throw in different political people.
Speaker 4: Fine, likely, you know, you want to.
Speaker 1: We've had felons, you know, on the show, but they've
Speaker 1: served their time.
Speaker 3: But that's okay, it's not like currently Teresa.
Speaker 2: She was on yeah, okay, yeah, I mean right, okay,
Speaker 2: that makes sense, but like someone who's actually like that's
Speaker 2: what she's known for, right know. I just was kind
Speaker 2: of like that that worries me for the generation that's
Speaker 2: watching that, like, ooh, I can be famous and come
Speaker 2: on Dancing with the Stars and be a felon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that from the beginning, and especially with Disney, right,
Speaker 1: You're you're thinking, like, so, this is a family show.
Speaker 1: So if you're watching let's say Jenna, you're watching this
Speaker 1: with your daughters and they're like, oh mom, you know,
Speaker 1: how who is she? How is she famous? And then like,
Speaker 1: what is your answer to that? So yes, start taking
Speaker 1: advantage of people, steal money, and then maybe you'll be
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. You're right with that mess, Get.
Speaker 6: A netflike show or whatever show about you, and that's
Speaker 6: where like Teresa and people like that, you can skirt around.
Speaker 3: I mean, she was famous for something.
Speaker 6: Before Marcia Stewart whatever, like is literally that is what
Speaker 6: it is. There was a show about her me literally stealing.
Speaker 1: Like she's also not taking any accountability, like if if
Speaker 1: she was actually sorry, that's another issue as well. But
Speaker 1: the fact that she is not, she's just not.
Speaker 2: It's almost like Gypsy Rose, where she's like obviously you
Speaker 2: know again know much about that time, she's she served
Speaker 2: her time, but she's also she came out to tell
Speaker 2: her story. She's she's has, from what I've seen, expressed
Speaker 2: you know, her side of sorries and you know, empathy
Speaker 2: and so you know for sure like with this one,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I'm really kids and to your point,
Speaker 2: Disney like hello, but like.
Speaker 1: Also and also Woopy Goldberg like she's good on her
Speaker 1: because like that must have been not maybe hard for
Speaker 1: her to say it, but I'm sure it was necessarily
Speaker 1: she just disagreed. She goes like, I know that I'm
Speaker 1: part of the ABC family and I have to support them,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, what type of
Speaker 1: messaging is It's the two tiered system. What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Who you know?
Speaker 4: Uh huh, Well that's.
Speaker 1: The big deal. And then she got really upset and
Speaker 1: had her attorney like demand for an apology from the
Speaker 1: women at the view and it was just like it's
Speaker 1: a whole thing. She goes, I paid everyone back, But
Speaker 1: I think, what's she's missing the point. It's not about
Speaker 1: paying people back, it's about how you affected their life,
Speaker 1: like their mental health. Right, So what are you? Oh?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, So whoopee was against the girl Anna.
Speaker 1: Was against the casting of Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 4: Quite agree with that.
Speaker 2: I remember when I think it was Tom that was
Speaker 2: upset about that one guy that was on Spicer. Yeah
Speaker 2: he was, was he? No, that wasn't the one on mine.
Speaker 2: But it's also I'm like, listen, you might not politically
Speaker 2: agree with him, but.
Speaker 6: Well, it's one thing to just disagree with someone and yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, and.
Speaker 1: Then it's one thing to have an ankle bracelet like
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 3: Arrest, completely different if that one's tough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was hoping we could like mark her down
Speaker 5: for her ankle bracelet or something.
Speaker 1: He needs to wear another one because this girl's lopsided
Speaker 1: when she's dancing. It's not cute.
Speaker 4: Cheryl, I really like you.
Speaker 1: I do not all that I know, but there's also
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. Like, honestly, I feel more I
Speaker 1: feel more awkward talking about like headlines and hot topics
Speaker 1: every week about my friends than just saying the facts
Speaker 1: when it comes to ballroom dancing.
Speaker 2: Were you well what you said, it's hard for you
Speaker 2: to talk about your friends in the headlines. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I mean the one of the first people that I
Speaker 2: thought of when I saw the art and stuff was you,
Speaker 2: Because I'm like people that were around him that were close, Like,
Speaker 2: that's got to be so hard, you know, because you're like,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was really awkward, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean we can go. I'll just tell you what happened.
Speaker 1: We were just coincidentally recording a Headlines and Hot Topics
Speaker 1: episode as all of this was unfolding. So it was
Speaker 1: this is where it just gets really weird for me
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you know, when they wanted to add
Speaker 1: this series to the podcast, I was like I was
Speaker 1: fighting it because I was like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: can do this or give it enough gossip that it needs.
Speaker 1: Hence why we have co hosts now that are reporters,
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, I actually, it's not worth.
Speaker 2: It for me, you know, well because you know that,
Speaker 2: like I mean, even the conversations that we've had and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, shure, I don't feel comfortable sharing that.
Speaker 2: It's like we're friends to a point where you're like
Speaker 2: you're not going to push certain people to a certain
Speaker 2: point where it's like you don't want to indulge certain
Speaker 2: things too, right, So I think it's respectful for your
Speaker 2: friendships as well, and like vice versa, it's at all
Speaker 2: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, people are already pissed off and they have been at
Speaker 1: me for god knows how long, and that's on them
Speaker 1: because I mean I can go to sleep at night
Speaker 1: knowing that I'm not saying anything that I'm not gossiping, right,
Speaker 1: So it's just said, if you want to get mad
Speaker 1: for saying that your legs were not straight in a lockstep, then.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 1: Lead.
Speaker 5: So the podcast is called sex Lies and Spray Tans,
Speaker 5: which really brings someone like me in because I'm not
Speaker 5: a dancer, and so I'm like, oh wait, what does
Speaker 5: she have to say? So is there anybody that should
Speaker 5: be super nervous about this podcast?
Speaker 4: Everyone?
Speaker 5: Because they're like everyone? But then you have all these
Speaker 5: really like you have so many friendships and you've been
Speaker 5: in this profession for so long, So how how does
Speaker 5: it work to be able to share what you want
Speaker 5: to share because it is sex, lies and spray tans,
Speaker 5: So you can't leave us hanging.
Speaker 1: No, this is a good question. Yeah, I mean, just
Speaker 1: put it this way. I've I it's definitely showed me
Speaker 1: who my friends are and versus who are my friends? Right,
Speaker 1: Because if you were like an honest, like a really
Speaker 1: good friend and I felt that or I've heard that
Speaker 1: you were talking about me, I would do the research
Speaker 1: right before like ghosting somebody or cutting somebody off or
Speaker 1: assuming anything. So it's like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I know, like I said, like I am, I am
Speaker 1: just saying how whatever reality is in my head, right,
Speaker 1: that really is not talking bad about the person or
Speaker 1: the friend. It's more about the couple and the dance
Speaker 1: and the technique. But people are going to just make
Speaker 1: it out to what they want to make it out to.
Speaker 1: And honestly, if I was a really good friend in
Speaker 1: the first place, you would do the research to make
Speaker 1: sure that that was or wasn't set right or call
Speaker 1: me even how about that?
Speaker 4: God, I want to know what she's talking about. That's
Speaker 4: like telling me this is good, it's probably happening.
Speaker 1: I mean it's more than one pupil, it's more than
Speaker 1: one person. It's definitely you know, and it's sad. It
Speaker 1: really is sad because if I'm believing a headline like
Speaker 1: you're talking, you're believing Reddit or that's.
Speaker 6: What's wrong with society in general. I mean, how many
Speaker 6: times does that happen with your podcast? It's like, did
Speaker 6: you actually listen to it?
Speaker 3: Like did you take your time to listen to see
Speaker 3: what was actually said? It drives me insane. I don't
Speaker 3: and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Looking at my social media clips like like thing else
Speaker 1: it's click bait you guys like, but if you really
Speaker 1: listen to it, I mean, that's the thing. Can you
Speaker 1: not do that for our friendship? No? So okay, so
Speaker 1: maybe there was no friendship, right right?
Speaker 4: Sure, who do you think is going to go home first?
Speaker 1: Well? I don't. I mean, I love brooks and Gloves
Speaker 1: and they're gorgeous. But if she doesn't make fun of
Speaker 1: herself soon or like show a funny, little playful side,
Speaker 1: then bah right. I mean I'm not just saying this
Speaker 1: because oh I just realized he was your partner, by
Speaker 1: the way, but I really didn't.
Speaker 6: Even But like, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 1: There's no no, and there's something like unattainable. More than
Speaker 1: I mean, not more than Anna Delvy. This is a
Speaker 1: different scenario, but like I don't know, it's something that's
Speaker 1: just like it's too serious and they're too good looking
Speaker 1: that they're not relatable.
Speaker 4: I loved and I don't know if he's a good thing.
Speaker 4: I love Joe. He made me smile The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm like, he's the best bachelor in
Speaker 1: the Dancing with the Stars franchised that the show's ever had. Bachelor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't stop smiling, Like he's so cute, like
Speaker 2: he was just he was killing it.
Speaker 4: I thought he was so good. And then.
Speaker 1: Carl Winslow reginal Reginald.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too. I wish you would have moved more.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: That's why I was like, I was so bummed, because
Speaker 2: I just I love watching her stories with him, like
Speaker 2: he just seems like, yeah, I just like I want
Speaker 2: to like a bear, I want a hug him.
Speaker 1: He's not going to go anywhere though, he's I think
Speaker 1: I think Eric Roberts will leave unfortunately before him. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I will say though, when I was watching it. I
Speaker 2: watched I caught a little bit last night, and then
Speaker 2: I was watching this morning when I was feeding Roman,
Speaker 2: and there was a piece of me that was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I miss like I'm miss it. Yeah, like I wish
Speaker 2: I could go back in the season of life as
Speaker 2: opposed to like the bad season I was in when
Speaker 2: I was on it.
Speaker 1: But was it therapeutic for you when you were doing
Speaker 1: it back then? Or like no?
Speaker 4: Was it just adding I should have done it then? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I hear you, Yeah I should have waited. And now
Speaker 4: that was like the third.
Speaker 2: Time I got asked to do it, Wasn't it like
Speaker 2: something like the third time? So now I would have
Speaker 2: I would have liked to have been in this season.
Speaker 2: But uh did they ever recast?
Speaker 1: Would you do all the stars?
Speaker 4: I would the ass back?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I would be who.
Speaker 1: Would you want to dance with? Well, I would have
Speaker 1: wanted to dance with Artam.
Speaker 4: That was who I like wish I had. I'm I know,
Speaker 4: so I was like, oh, shoot.
Speaker 1: This time will I don't know what time will do, but.
Speaker 2: I know I was like that was who I who
Speaker 2: I you guys would be together.
Speaker 4: With back in the day.
Speaker 2: So I was like I would have liked to have
Speaker 2: He was always one that I was like, I would
Speaker 2: have liked to have worked with him, but oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like a second one that I would have done,
Speaker 2: would have liked to have danced with. But I you
Speaker 2: know again, I would have loved it. But it made
Speaker 2: me think of you back to you. It was like
Speaker 2: when I was watching it, I'm like, man, this must
Speaker 2: be hard because this was like I always think of
Speaker 2: like when athletes leave the sport they play and it's
Speaker 2: like for them to watch a game again. So it's
Speaker 2: like for you to rewatching this in your podcast? Is
Speaker 2: there that bitter sweet? Because there is some maybe anger
Speaker 2: towards the producers or the show itself and then to
Speaker 2: have you know, your podcast which is doing amazing and
Speaker 2: it's so great, but you're there's also a sadness to
Speaker 2: it too, So like, how are you kind of dealing
Speaker 2: with all those emotions through watching the show every season?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I hear you. I think the first season of
Speaker 1: the podcast, like when I had interviewed you in Vegas,
Speaker 1: was really hard that I think I held a lot
Speaker 1: more resentment even watching it, Like I hear myself doing
Speaker 1: these interviews today, and I'm like, oh, but like, why
Speaker 1: do I believe that this premiere was way better than
Speaker 1: last year. I think I'm just in a different state
Speaker 1: my you know, mind frame. I would like to say
Speaker 1: this has been a healing yet traumatizing sometimes and a
Speaker 1: lot of trauma bonding with my guests as well, and
Speaker 1: as opposed to what I normally do when anything happends
Speaker 1: to me, sometimes I just run away and we don't
Speaker 1: face whatever feelings that you know, do arise. This has
Speaker 1: really forced me to do that and with that, some
Speaker 1: weeks are easier than others. And I have to say though,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of freedom when I was watching this
Speaker 1: last night, but there was also like this is bulls
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of that as well, commentary in
Speaker 1: my sure, like this is all just like you know,
Speaker 1: like gets scripted, like come on, open your.
Speaker 4: Eyes, you know, angry much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like when people are like I got a record,
Speaker 2: I'm like, good luck.
Speaker 1: Tell that.
Speaker 4: Tell you.
Speaker 1: How did you get that middle seat? Derek? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, oh right.
Speaker 1: We grew up together. I mean we had Julienne when
Speaker 1: she had an English action in England. I was there
Speaker 1: on her tenth birthday when she was living with the
Speaker 1: Ballast family. So that's how long we've known each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like what.
Speaker 1: I say close, not necessarily.
Speaker 2: Are you closest Who are you closest to the most?
Speaker 2: From from Dancing with the Stars, I would.
Speaker 1: Say Kim, But like this is a different generation, you know,
Speaker 1: like I started.
Speaker 4: Our generation, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, that was a good generation. Did you
Speaker 1: ever think you were going to be on the show? No?
Speaker 5: Never, thanks, friend, I'm the least coordinated human on the planet.
Speaker 5: Like everyone say no, no, no, no, Like I promise
Speaker 5: you it would be an epic. I could I could
Speaker 5: never do it. You can fascinated. Also that, oh that
Speaker 5: is the most inaccurate. I hope we get to have
Speaker 5: a moment together at some point in person so you
Speaker 5: can just watch me fail.
Speaker 3: But also happy people are like hurt while they're doing this.
Speaker 3: That's the one thing I.
Speaker 4: Was back that week.
Speaker 3: She was hurt. Someone was always hurt. I was just like,
Speaker 3: I don't think think about it.
Speaker 1: Your bodies and shock seven days a week, like and
Speaker 1: you don't know when this is going to end. And
Speaker 1: mind you, they've already had three weeks of training before
Speaker 1: the premiere and then they're going until end of November,
Speaker 1: and the songs only get longer, and then they have
Speaker 1: double dances and you're like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 6: I don't think we had any idea when she took
Speaker 6: it the amount of time that this show takes, because
Speaker 6: anyone does when they even when they lay it out
Speaker 6: for you, you.
Speaker 3: Still just have no idea.
Speaker 1: You ut for you they do exactly what did what
Speaker 1: did the exact say to you?
Speaker 3: Whatever you want, Yeah, they can come to you.
Speaker 6: I can go to the shows with you, because then
Speaker 6: we had to cancel all her shows.
Speaker 1: Why did she have to cancel your shows? Because we do.
Speaker 1: We are supposed to like travel with you guys.
Speaker 3: So this is the face did travel.
Speaker 6: He did travel with her on some but what would
Speaker 6: happen is when they had like the two dances a
Speaker 6: week or whatever, it just became, you know, the shows
Speaker 6: wouldn't be close enough. Well if they got on this flight,
Speaker 6: then they couldn't actually practice because then she had a stage.
Speaker 6: So it just the logistics and it wasn't all of them,
Speaker 6: but some of them we just had to because there
Speaker 6: was she wouldn't be able to practice her second dance.
Speaker 1: Or she was probably stressed, right, like I need to press.
Speaker 3: To the max. Yeah, because she just had to be
Speaker 3: and then she was hurt. I mean, it was just
Speaker 3: it was it was a lot.
Speaker 1: Wait, you got injured. I don't remember that.
Speaker 2: My second week, I tore my intercostal muscles in my ribs.
Speaker 4: It was so helpful. I know. It was so bad.
Speaker 4: I couldn't breathe. Yeah, it was really bad.
Speaker 1: Wait do they do a package about this.
Speaker 2: M because I always had to quit my second week.
Speaker 2: I mean it was bad, so bad.
Speaker 1: I never even heard that word.
Speaker 4: Okay yeaeah, I know, but we're all googling. Okay, So
Speaker 4: and then okay, I have my friend.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not going to ask because you're my friend.
Speaker 4: Which one is scandalous? Okay?
Speaker 5: So my husbands always like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 5: be on dancers. There he's the dancer of the couple.
Speaker 5: There's one in every couple, and he's actually cordinated. Then
Speaker 5: I don't know ours well good, I think there's a
Speaker 5: real follower and their dancer, and in our couple they
Speaker 5: don't match. So he's always like, oh, I would love
Speaker 5: to be on that, and I'm like, over my dead body.
Speaker 4: Does that feel accurate? Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, absolutely, Oh I would kiss you on the lips
Speaker 5: if we were together, because I'm always like, baby, I
Speaker 5: think this is just a setup for just too much
Speaker 5: scandal and I don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's my like subconscious that's just talk. Now
Speaker 1: if I'm really good to like analyze this, it just
Speaker 1: depends on your guy's foundation, Like if you're foundational.
Speaker 4: Sure, but I don't need any woman.
Speaker 1: A penis, I'm assum and it just happens right like
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 5: We're just winding in a vibrators and for forever, good
Speaker 5: for you, full circle it. No, but I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: like I feel like it's never good to have somebody
Speaker 5: in that situation where they're so intimate there's so much
Speaker 5: touching and like that just doesn't feel like an appropriate
Speaker 5: marriage thing to me. And I know, but you're a
Speaker 5: professional at what you do, So that's why I wanted
Speaker 5: to know if that's how it feels to you too.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, Like honestly, it's not. It's not like
Speaker 1: oh like all twenty six of my partners, even Wayne Newton,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I am like so hot for you,
Speaker 1: Like it's not, and it's very much a we do
Speaker 1: what we need to do and then we're like, Okay.
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing you're on set. It's like
Speaker 2: you do your kissing scene. It's actually more awkward than
Speaker 2: it is sexy.
Speaker 7: Because I feel like I do have to say, I
Speaker 7: do ask this question to every person an interview who
Speaker 7: falls in love first the celebrity or the pro And
Speaker 7: it is the celebrity because absolutely, yeah, especially.
Speaker 1: Those who are not actors, you know, they definitely fall
Speaker 1: for the pect.
Speaker 2: Where I will always say where things get gray on
Speaker 2: set is when you're hanging out outside of the work hours.
Speaker 2: So like if you're making out with someone like that
Speaker 2: is actually not the intimate piece. That's not where you
Speaker 2: grow the feelings. You grow the feelings when you're like
Speaker 2: going in their trailer and minds that they're like rooms.
Speaker 2: That's where it's no gray. So yeah, gray, no gray, No. Great,
Speaker 2: Well I've already crossed.
Speaker 4: Cheryl. I crossed it off as a no.
Speaker 1: And by the way, duh, like that's the thing, like
Speaker 1: we're not rumbying in trailer number thirteen, like inappropriate.
Speaker 2: There's boundaries, right, yeah, and those boundaries gonnet blurred. That's
Speaker 2: where the affairs and all those they're sure not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't need anyone with ads spending that
Speaker 5: much time with my husband. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if pressing up, yeah is your husband, I got it.
Speaker 4: He's in country music.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean in our house, Yes, in our
Speaker 5: house's dada. But yeah, he's in country music. But he
Speaker 5: said I would he actually would. I think he would
Speaker 5: do really well at it.
Speaker 4: But I think if we could pick.
Speaker 1: Any country would do very well on I mean, Sarah
Speaker 1: Evans would have most likely. She still thinks she would
Speaker 1: have beat me an Emmett, but I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But anyway, she would have won if she didn't have
Speaker 1: to bow out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you think Sarah Evans would have won?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or come close at least second place?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: I was like, I loved Emmett. I thought Emmett was
Speaker 2: like he puts personality and like the I mean he
Speaker 2: was he was so good.
Speaker 1: But those country fans, as you know, they're loyal. Yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: like more than any other fan base. I've ever had a.
Speaker 5: Bobby you know Bobby, I mean, he's the period he wanted.
Speaker 4: That's why they That's why they changed the voting.
Speaker 1: They did but then they changed it back. I mean
Speaker 1: they just Also, I don't know, do you still think
Speaker 1: the show is a bottom show?
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's a dance, fun television show.
Speaker 2: I don't think they take it seriously. And actually the
Speaker 2: critiquing of no not ever, but like nowadays, I think
Speaker 2: it's just yeah. But I'm also not a dancer, so
Speaker 2: I think they have to visually also make it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But we love you so much and everyone listened to
Speaker 2: Cheryl Brooke's amazing podcast and we love you so much.
Speaker 1: I love you guys too. Bye girl, I thank you.
Speaker 2: The fact we went from just spray chancer vibrators was
Speaker 2: very unbrand for us, very unbranded. And no, there's just
Speaker 2: again We're go back to the point where there's things
Speaker 2: I want to ask, who's your leasepaper, who like or
Speaker 2: not resarably, who do you not talk to or But
Speaker 2: I'm like, really, we don't need to ask that, I
Speaker 2: know should have.
Speaker 6: But also to go back to what you were saying, Chriscent,
Speaker 6: I will never forget when she got her this offer,
Speaker 6: which is the one when you check Dance about the Stars,
Speaker 6: the last one. Someone in the team was like, you
Speaker 6: want to do this just snow almost everyone hoo hooks up.
Speaker 4: Oh the producer told us that.
Speaker 6: Well, I know someone else and your team did too,
Speaker 6: But that's okay who I'm trying so anyway, but I'll
Speaker 6: never forget it. So I was like, oh, are they
Speaker 6: on my team anymore?
Speaker 4: Sometimes? Oh this is a good off air.
Speaker 2: Now I'm confused, but I think the producer was one
Speaker 2: of the ones they're That producer.
Speaker 3: Was not there anymore, definitely, let you know that as well.
Speaker 4: I'm like, did he give you the old wink? Was
Speaker 4: a girl?
Speaker 3: Such to pretend as if it doesn't it happens.
Speaker 4: Often, Yeah, I'd imagine it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because again, of course the pros are used to
Speaker 6: that intimate space. That's their job, just like an actor,
Speaker 6: but someone else, that's just they're not used to being
Speaker 6: in someone's intimate space that many hours a day and
Speaker 6: doing these intimate you know.
Speaker 5: Like that's what I was trying to say, Like, I
Speaker 5: just don't need again, anyone observing my husband.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I think it's hard for because you know,
Speaker 2: people like Alan who they do. He's like, well, afraid
Speaker 2: that you people catch feelings. I'm like, no, that's not
Speaker 2: like that. The issue like I said, is you have
Speaker 2: to keep the boundaries of not going into the trailers
Speaker 2: or having too much off set or break time with
Speaker 2: that cast made, because that's when you start to build
Speaker 2: a bond and a connection and potential feelings.
Speaker 3: That's where it gets. Yeah, Gray, well that was fun.
Speaker 3: I love talking to her.
Speaker 4: And she is fun. Yes, but yeah, so, uh, stay
Speaker 4: tuned for next week. Bye.