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Speaker 1: Here we go. It is a Monday. We're live in La.

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Speaker 1: It's good to have you in. Matt hasselback in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful, beautiful day, beautiful week.

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Speaker 3: I had Weatherwise Common.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer next hour. Every week at this time we do.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin Wrong had another good blazing five got

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Speaker 1: Philly tonight three and one. Let's go to right and wrong.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: It's time to all acknowledge what we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is out of this world. Good three tuddies,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one passer rating. He was the

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Speaker 1: difference yesterday. Green Bay's defense got really tired. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He's finally got a healthy wide receiving corps. Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and the Rams best two teams in the NFC, and

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Speaker 1: a huge part of it is Jordan Love's tall, moves, aggressive,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of mistakes. It's time to admit it, folks.

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Speaker 1: He's elite where Colin was wraw All scale back on

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Speaker 1: my Cowboy Love. They gave up forty four to Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I still think their run defense two first round picks

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Speaker 1: Quentin Williams is really really going to be strong going forward.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is their past defense gives up two

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Speaker 1: the secondary. Miny mock drafts have them going getting Caleb

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Speaker 1: Downs of Ohio State. They're a really fun watch. I

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Speaker 1: love their future, but defensively they still need help.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right said.

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Speaker 1: This last couple of years, Josh Allen is the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Not Patrick Mahomes. Josh is a

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Speaker 1: more transformational physical specimen for total touchdowns, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty passer rating, and he doesn't have a receiving corps

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Speaker 1: that's as good as Patrick Mahomes, so don't tell me that. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot to work with. He's got tight

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Speaker 1: ends yesterday. He couldn't trust in the red zone James Cook,

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Speaker 1: So let's give him the MVP again. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the trophy case. But the best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's not Lamar, it's not Aaron Rodgers, it's not Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's Josh Allen and has been for two years.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers are a college football power. Hard to

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Speaker 1: wrap my brain around that because I had a functioning

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Speaker 1: television for the last forty years. They went toe to

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Speaker 1: toe in the trenches with Ohio State. It's not just

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, because Ohio State Julian Sands a great quarterback too.

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Speaker 1: They the Hoosiers held Ohio State to fifty eight yards rushing,

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Speaker 1: to ten points. So this wasn't just about a great

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Speaker 1: the number one program right now in college football blew

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Speaker 1: me away where Colin was right. I've been defending Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers all year. He's not the problem. He's the most

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Speaker 1: redeemable quality. He threw the ball down the field yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He was moving around and scrambling. Seventh game this season

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Speaker 1: been critical of Aaron before. He's a bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins have won four straight. They have the

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Speaker 1: same record as the Chiefs and the Ravens. Listen, Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: I always said, I like his schemes, I like his

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Speaker 1: He deserves a ton of credit to go up and

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Speaker 1: has quit on this team. Mike McDaniel has not lost

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I was wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Hurricanes are gonna jump over Notre Dame. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with Notre Dame bailing

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Speaker 1: the past within the next two years. But I thought

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Speaker 1: Miami had kind of won public approval people coming out,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald said it last year, I have said it

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Speaker 1: this year. He is the defensive Sean McVeigh Seattle. This

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Speaker 1: guy is no BS alpha, smart player friendly. This is

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Speaker 1: the second youngest offense in the league. He lets Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold make mistakes, he doesn't over coach, he doesn't go conservative.

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Speaker 1: Seattle found themselves the defensive version of Sean McVeigh, and

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Speaker 1: that eighteen years in the NFL. Matt Hasselbeck, as he

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Speaker 1: about dynasties. They don't fall off a cliff. They look

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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs. They dominate, and they win big, and

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Speaker 1: they win Super Bowls. Then they start winning close, and

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Speaker 1: then the next year they start losing close. And they're

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Speaker 1: old players. You can see the age. And I'm watching

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Speaker 4: Are you surprised, Well, yeah, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 4: exactly surprised. I think the rest of the league's gotten

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Speaker 5: They've looked in the past.

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Speaker 4: I think I've said it many times, though details and

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Speaker 4: discipline are the difference in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: It's not always that big of a gap in talent.

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Speaker 4: And then when your star player doesn't play his best

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Speaker 4: and because of the reason, you know, guys around him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's drops, maybe it's throwing laid down the middle,

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Speaker 4: the three turnovers are uncharacteristic, they're really bad interceptions that

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Speaker 4: a lot of blame to go around. Listen, they've had

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Speaker 5: In general for a long time. That can be a blessing.

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Speaker 4: It can also be, you know, an opportunity to get complacent.

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Speaker 4: And obviously, you know, we're used to them making the

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Speaker 5: This clearly just doesn't seem to be like their year.

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Speaker 1: So Packers Bears was wildly entertaining. Green Bay dominates the

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Speaker 1: first half. Bears had a very good second half. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's sort of waged to say, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Bears are legit. They beat Philadelphia in Philly, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people said, well, the Eagles are broken. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I said earlier, I thought this was about

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Speaker 1: as good a loss. I mean, green Bay was favored

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Speaker 1: three decades. Chicago doesn't get in games like this where

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Speaker 1: had a bad first half. I watched that second half,

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Speaker 1: this legitimized the Bears even though they lost.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Bears are legitimate anyway. I

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Speaker 4: just last week I said, listen, I love this team.

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Speaker 5: I really do.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sold on their quarterback, and they don't think

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Speaker 4: they're the one seed. You know, and the amount of

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Speaker 4: hate I received that those two statements is wild.

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Speaker 2: I feel the same.

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Speaker 5: I feel the same.

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Speaker 2: I think Ben.

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Speaker 4: Johnson's special, I like, really, really special. I actually love

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Speaker 4: the play call at the end of the game. I

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Speaker 4: think it's a game winner. If not, it's a first down.

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Speaker 4: Like I believe in this team. I think the Packers

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Speaker 4: have something special too. There's gonna be another epic matchup.

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Speaker 4: I was part of this rivalry. I understand it for

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Speaker 4: three years. It's wild stuff happens. This is a wild game.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be another matchup. I think it'll be even better.

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Speaker 4: You know, the handshakes funny to me, and like all

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Speaker 4: this trash talk from the head coaches, going back to

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Speaker 4: the press conference when Ben Johnson got hired, it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: even surprise me if secretly these guys are like best

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a great rivalry for years to come.

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Speaker 4: Be a great matchup the next one, I do think.

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Speaker 1: I say it again.

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Speaker 4: I hate to pile on because a young player and

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Speaker 4: a talented player, but Caleb does the stuff that scouts

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, so he's just got to grow up to

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Speaker 4: the speed of a team that's trying.

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Speaker 5: To hoist a Lombardi. He's got to grow up quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, it's funny, Matt. For the previous

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Speaker 1: five or six seven years, I thought the AFC was

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Burrow, and they hit on all of them.

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Speaker 1: Stroud. But I watched the NFC now and I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: watching the Bears, and I'm watching the Rams yesterday, good God.

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Speaker 1: And I'm watching and I'll watch Philadelphia tonight. I do

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Speaker 1: feel like the NFC is better. I'm watching this game.

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Speaker 1: I felt like watching Ohio State Indiana. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: think the Big Ten has the two best teams, maybe Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I watched Green Bay and I thought in Chicago and

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Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I mean, this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay like I could see them winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Like they're polished. I don't know a lot

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Speaker 1: of flaws. What's green Bay's flaw?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean you mentioned those teams. You mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Rams, you mentioned Green Bay. I would throw Chicago

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Speaker 4: running the football. Green Bay they didn't get too cute

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Speaker 2: They just said, Hey, this.

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Speaker 4: Is going to be a Josh Jacobs game. We're gonna

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Speaker 5: I've been very critical of Buffalo's defense. I agree.

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Speaker 5: Here's what happens as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So the Eagles did something. Saquon Barkley sort of rolled

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know whose idea this was, but I

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Speaker 5: Usually the o ing is the kind of behind some

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Speaker 4: You know, the rookies decorate the meeting room or decorate

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Speaker 4: I don't know where it comes from, but teams can't

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Speaker 1: Okay. I know it's not not all franchise quarterbacks or

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Speaker 1: are a one seed, Green Bay two. Those are excellent teams.

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Speaker 1: If you're asking me, I'd say Seattle is the third

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Speaker 1: best team I've seen in the NFC. They're a five seed, and.

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Speaker 5: Look at that list right there, Colin.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got the Seahawks has a wild card

436
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Speaker 4: as the five seed, but I believe if they win out,

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Speaker 4: they win their next four, they're the one seed and

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Speaker 4: that's all it takes for them.

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Speaker 5: They control it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they get the Rams in Seattle. So to your point, listen,

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Speaker 1: we're all forgetting the Niners are off a buy. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's the NF seat is I mean, the number

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Speaker 1: one offense is Dallas. They're not even clawed. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're six. And so there is a lot of depth

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. Matt as always buddy great sing you

446
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Speaker 1: see gone. I'm just I'm watching that Seattle game, and yeah,

447
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Speaker 1: Sam throws some picks, but you know, this is the

448
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Speaker 1: year kind of redemption, Like everybody sold their stock on

449
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You're like, it's been pretty good. Everybody's like

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Speaker 1: Sam last year, get rid of it. He's been great.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, Jordan Love. A lot of doubters. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's been unbelievable. A little bit of a redemption year

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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would largely agree you.

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Speaker 6: You asked me about the lines for this week, and

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Speaker 6: the Colts are going to Seattle. Donald should cook against

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Speaker 6: the against the Colts. But then Donald has the real

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Speaker 6: game of the season, of the season against the Rams

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Speaker 6: at home rematch from when he had four picks. I

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Speaker 6: think this will be like the end of last season

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Speaker 6: for him. Remember, he has really struggled and everybody sold

462
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Speaker 6: their stock. This is his chance. Hey, guys, I'm for real,

463
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Speaker 6: I show up.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man.

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Speaker 6: Rams defense look pretty feisty yesterday. Do you see them

466
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Speaker 6: getting after Jacoby Brissett. I mean they look nasty upfront.

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Speaker 6: First of all, I embarrassed with the Carolina results. The

468
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Speaker 6: two best fifth round picks. Did I that pop into

469
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Speaker 6: my head? Pokaakua and George Kittle. Yeah, Pookinakula yesterday. Dude,

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Speaker 6: it's I watched him in college. He didn't do that

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Speaker 6: in college.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean I watched them at Washington and BYU sometime, and

474
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Speaker 1: I know these NFL gms and all these scouting departments.

475
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Speaker 1: I watch him and I'm like, did I miss something?

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Speaker 1: I remember when he was drafted and you said you

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Speaker 1: knew Stafford. Well, Stafford was telling everybody in camp, dude,

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Speaker 1: we have a superstar receiver in camp.

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Speaker 6: I'm just curious, can pooka catch JSN for the Offensive

480
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Speaker 6: Player of the Year. I know it's like where we

481
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Speaker 6: don't want to care because he gets dinged up more

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Speaker 6: he does. He's a Jonathan Taylor was the leader for

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Speaker 6: a while. That ship has sailed. It's over now. Taylor

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Speaker 6: at a rough game against Jacksonville yesterday. But I think

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Speaker 6: it's gonna come down to a receiver for sure.

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Speaker 1: Between Stafford their tight ends now Blake Koram. Have you

487
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Speaker 1: noticed Blake hot is now cooking? So they have a

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Speaker 1: and they're all healthy. The Rams are healthy.

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Speaker 6: Are your top three teams? Ramseyahawks? And I think you

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Speaker 6: got to see the NFL they're all NFC.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I think New England's somewhere in that group.

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Speaker 3: New England's in that group, dude, I've watched.

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Speaker 1: Them go to Buffalo and everybody keeps.

494
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Speaker 3: Starting it one game, what else they got.

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Speaker 1: I think they went to Tampa and one I think

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Speaker 1: they've they've won. They're just winning. The team that I

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Speaker 1: worry about is Denver now again yesterday. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: a twenty four to seventeen game that was that big

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Speaker 1: of a blowout. Denver Raiders cover Denver long time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were really trying to get out of the stadium.

501
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Speaker 1: Denver was just like, hand it off, eat the clock,

502
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Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Nobody gets hurt. I worry

503
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Speaker 1: a little bit about bow knicks in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: worry I don't.

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Speaker 6: Always coming out of the ANFC. The AFC is crazy

506
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Speaker 6: right now. Like honestly, if you're going, if you're Josh

507
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Speaker 6: Allen going up against the top three, you're not scared

508
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Speaker 6: of any of those three. So look at the quarterbacks.

509
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Speaker 6: Bon Nick's second year, Drake May, second year, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: I like him, but he eh Aaron Rodgers forty seven

511
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Speaker 6: years old. Well, I mean, are the Houston Texans? Could

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Speaker 6: they be in the Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowl from the Houston tex d line because the Patriots, Jags, Steelers, Bills.

514
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Speaker 1: Chargers do not have great lines. If the Texans ended

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Speaker 1: up in the AFC Championship against Denver, Denver's got a

516
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Speaker 1: great old line. Yeah, but I'm Houston could win. I'm

517
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Speaker 1: telling you, when the playoff numbers come out, I'm betting Houston.

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Speaker 6: Well, the other team is those in the hunt teams.

519
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Speaker 6: I don't even think they're dangerous at this now.

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Speaker 1: They're not.

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Speaker 3: They're not good.

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Speaker 6: Like honestly, Daniel Jones, if you feel terrible for him,

523
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Speaker 6: that season's over for the Colt they're not getting I

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Speaker 6: don't thinky're getting.

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Speaker 1: In the playoffs. No Riley Leonard, No, No Riley Leonard also

526
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Speaker 1: known as the next Josh Allen, who.

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Speaker 3: Is coming out of the AFC. That's a I don't

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Speaker 3: It could be the Texans, but they have to win

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Speaker 3: three straight.

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Speaker 1: I'm listen that.

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Speaker 3: Defense travels though.

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Speaker 6: Oh but admitted last night with the Chiefs are coming

533
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Speaker 6: back in the second half, you're like, oh, I've.

534
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Speaker 1: Seen this movie straight incompletion. They have more good players

535
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Speaker 1: when you were. If you turn this sound and just

536
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Speaker 1: watch the athleticism, Texans are better.

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Speaker 6: We gotta let Stroud cook too many handoffs into the line.

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Speaker 1: Greetings from FS one. I mean what I got to

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Speaker 1: tell you? What a weekend? Bears Packers, Ohio State, Indiana

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Speaker 1: Sometimes as a network, I'm really interested to see the

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Speaker 1: Bears Packers rating.

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Speaker 3: Are you off the Buckeyes now because of that.

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Speaker 1: Long no God, no, no, no, no. Ohio State's gonna

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Speaker 1: win the Natty. I think Ohio State, oh the three

559
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Speaker 1: best teams I've seen and I think there's a gap,

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Speaker 1: no particular order, Indiana, Georgia, Ohio State. I'll still take

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Speaker 1: Ohio State to win the Natty. When Ohio State lost

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Speaker 1: to Oregon and Michigan last year, I said on me

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Speaker 1: and that lost to Michigan.

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Speaker 6: Think everybody knew that that team was loaded. This team

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Speaker 6: has a young quarterback. No, no, no, this quarterback's great. Was

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Speaker 6: Ryan Day coaching to not let him make him? He

567
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Speaker 6: didn't throw the ball down the field?

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Speaker 1: No no, I didn't want to go fourth and to field

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Speaker 1: goal attempts. I would have gone for it.

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Speaker 6: Jeremiah Smith is one on one like half the game.

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Speaker 6: How are you not just throwing some jump balls to him? Well,

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Speaker 6: I did not understand the game plan from Ryan Day.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't want to unveil things before.

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Speaker 3: So who cares about the champion?

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Speaker 1: You care about it? But Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line news.

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Speaker 6: All right. We need to fulfill our contractual obligation to

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Speaker 6: talking about Bo Nicks, Collins's favorite quarterback in the AFC. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 6: ten game win streak for your guy. Look at him

580
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Speaker 6: just dropping dimes against it. He was good yesterday. So well,

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00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 6: Raiders play a soft zone defense. I mean, hell, you

582
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Speaker 6: could have. You were QB one back in the day,

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Speaker 6: you could have carved these guys up.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, bo Nicks moved into.

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Speaker 6: A Tywood John Elway for the third longest streak, win

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Speaker 6: streak and franchise history. Here's bo Nicks, the hero on

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Speaker 6: the street.

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Speaker 8: It's amazing, tends a long streak and you know, we've

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Speaker 8: won eleven games.

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Speaker 5: That's really tough to do at this point in the season.

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Speaker 8: And I mean eleven and two is not many things

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Speaker 8: that you know you want to be negative about because

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Speaker 8: you want to be appreciative of this opportunity and be

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Speaker 8: appreciative of the wins no matter how they come.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player, and he's a heady guy that

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Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton admires his toughness, his athletic ability.

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00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: He is, like Caleb can be a bit of a

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Speaker 1: roller coaster. Over the course of three and a half

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Speaker 1: hours yesterday, it was It's very rare when you watch

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Speaker 1: a game and you can tell one team knows how

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Speaker 1: much better they are and they're just doing a Did

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Speaker 1: you notice Denver run the ball, short throws, keep the

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Speaker 1: clock running. Denver just wanted to stay healthy and get

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Speaker 1: out because they know right now the Raiders don't look

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Speaker 1: well coached. I mean they don't. They're doing nothing well.

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Speaker 1: But watching this game, it was like, oh, they just

607
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: want to get out of the stadium. A lot of

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Speaker 1: catchuble stuff underneath running the ball. They have a nice

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Speaker 1: running game yesterday. This was not a twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seventeen game. If you watched it, it was total domination.

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Speaker 6: So sometimes I forget to give props to people who

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Speaker 6: do what you have to do, right. I mean, they

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Speaker 6: got to win this game and they won, right. Rams

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Speaker 6: went to Carolina, they didn't win, you know, they lost

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Speaker 6: that game. That was a tough one. But Denver just

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Speaker 6: keeps winning. Colin what matters most here, here's what they

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Speaker 6: got next.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay. That's a top three team in the league. Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: That's not gonna be an easy one. I'm sorry, that's

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Speaker 6: not gonna be easy. At the Chiefs. They're not dead yet,

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Speaker 6: they might be by that point, and then they close

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Speaker 6: out with the charge.

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Speaker 1: Of three of four high altitude cold weather home Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: in Denver weather.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence were built for that.

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Speaker 1: Denver's gonna Oh, they're gonna roll. Really, I had Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: jackson winter. Jacksonville's not going to Denver and a snowstorm

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Speaker 1: and winning.

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Speaker 6: It's so it's so cold in Chicago. You may be

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Speaker 6: here for a few weeks, so you'll be around for

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Speaker 6: that Jacksonville Denver game. We'll have like a dinner bet

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Speaker 6: on that. Okay, I'm blindly taking the Jags there unless

633
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 6: trouble Art is all right, Let's move on to the

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00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 6: next one, and that is shiteer Sanders Colin obviously the why.

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Speaker 3: Are you laughing? The big news is he's.

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Speaker 6: Been named the charter for the rest of the season.

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00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: He makes big time throws, no no cap. He was

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Speaker 6: outstanding against the Titans. He had a great touch pass

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Speaker 6: to Djoku.

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Speaker 1: In the corner of that. I argue he was better

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Speaker 1: than cam Ward yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Sure go for it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, the Titans defenses is a joke, one

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Speaker 6: of the worst in the league.

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Speaker 3: And Shaudur lit him up as he was supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: He throws the balls down the field. Act that was

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Speaker 1: a great throw.

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Speaker 6: He bad interception now here. Let's we gotta be balanced,

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Speaker 6: fair and balanced.

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Speaker 3: What a bad pick twenty three or forty two.

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Speaker 6: It's a cut above fifty percent. And there's he had

652
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Speaker 6: the second most time to throw of any quarterback this season.

653
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Speaker 6: And what the Titans notice is he pats the ball

654
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Speaker 6: before he throws. He does he does his tat and

655
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Speaker 6: you could adjust as a cornerback and.

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Speaker 3: That like led to a lot of breakups.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, the big controversy is they score a touchdown, great

658
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 6: drive by Shdoor. They had to go for two to

659
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Speaker 6: tiet Now Shador had dropped the fumbled on her two

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Speaker 6: point ed version earlier.

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Speaker 3: They pull him off the field.

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Speaker 1: And they go to their wildcat.

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Speaker 6: A little trick play. Judkins forgot the play. It was

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Speaker 6: all excited. Oh it was a disaster. But everybody's coming

665
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Speaker 6: after Sefanski like this is the last straw You've.

666
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Speaker 3: Got to fire him. Do we need to take a deep.

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Speaker 1: Breath here, Cleveland fans, I mean, do you do you

668
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Speaker 1: look at that fan base as reasonable and nuanced Stefanski?

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Speaker 6: Listen, there's a media members out there who are trying

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Speaker 6: to lead this charge.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to name names.

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Speaker 6: But people are like, what is Stefanski doing?

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Speaker 3: He's hurting Shadure.

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Speaker 6: There is a weird Schadure cult out there who are like,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say, like it's in the political realm,

676
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 6: but they're all in on Shudur no matter what he does, They're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna just listen. I watched this with Tebow and Shador

678
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Speaker 1: can actually play, so I've seen this before. It's called

679
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Tim Tiba and Tibo was winning. Chad's not winning is

680
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: a much better. Oh, Tim Tebow thing was insane. I

681
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: mean they didn't Saturday Night Live skifs on it. It

682
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: was insane. They had a great defense and Matt Prater

683
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: was kicking fifty eight yard field goals. Chadur's throwing the

684
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Speaker 1: ball down the field. Shadur to me, I said this

685
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Speaker 1: when Shador went in the fifth round, I said, in

686
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Speaker 1: my career, I've never gone on the air and said

687
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Speaker 1: that's a first round quarterback and they dropped to the

688
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Speaker 1: fifth Usually I'm pretty close. So he's obviously more of

689
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback than Dylan Gabriel because I was not

690
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Speaker 1: a Gabriel guy.

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Speaker 6: Cause isn't like your pregnant kind of you're either a

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Speaker 6: franchise quarterback or you're not.

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Speaker 1: In my take, as he is.

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Speaker 3: Chaduur.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, holy hell.

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Speaker 6: So the Browns are probably gonna be drafting top three.

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Speaker 6: They may get a shot at Mendoza. Oh no, are

698
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Speaker 6: you saying you pass on Mendoza for Shador?

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Speaker 1: Nobody? Okay, if you can get Mendoza, you get him.

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Speaker 6: So that's the question. Brown's fans, a lot of them

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Speaker 6: like Shadur. They're gonna be ticked if they draft Mendoza.

702
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, really ticked until they go on a four

703
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Speaker 1: game winning street.

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Speaker 3: So last thing.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you're watching these, but Stefanski looks

706
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Speaker 6: exhausted answering Shaduur questions.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen these?

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Speaker 1: He's like, this is why they didn't want to draft exactly.

709
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Speaker 1: And I just wonder.

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Speaker 6: I just wonder if Stefanci's almost like, you know what,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to deal with this garbage for another

712
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 6: year because whoever gets the job, that's there's like a

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Speaker 6: cult of Schaduur.

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Speaker 3: This is a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's called t bou Mania. It's I mean, that's why

716
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: when Denver moved off Tebow, they went and got Peyton Manning.

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00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you can move off Shador, but you better

719
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Speaker 1: not do it with ty Simpson. If you do it

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Speaker 1: with Dante Moore or Mendoza. Any reasonable person with a

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Speaker 1: functioning brain would be like, yeah, those are higher end prospects,

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Speaker 1: but or you know, go go, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Just again, Shadur was good. We got to get the man.

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Speaker 1: Is a franchise quarterback? Is he going to be an

725
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: old timer? No? But I think he is a franchise quarterback.

726
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: I watched Kenny Pickett play three games as a pro,

727
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's not a franchise Pennix.

728
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Speaker 3: Is he a franchise squorder?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I thought, we'll see, hadn't played it a lot,

730
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Speaker 1: We'll see.

731
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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 3: That just may warrant fur their discussion.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go to the NBA where Lebron James,

734
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Speaker 6: the Goat, the greatest basketball.

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00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Player ever, had an unbelievable.

736
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Speaker 6: Game last night against the Sixers on the road. Remember

737
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 6: the last time we saw him against Toronto, he didn't

738
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Speaker 6: get ten points.

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Speaker 3: Last night, Oh, he put on a show.

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Speaker 6: Collin twenty nine points on twelve of seventeen. He scored

741
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Speaker 6: ten straight in the fourth clutch City. Here's Lebron after

742
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Speaker 6: the game, the end of a roll trip.

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Speaker 9: You know, it can be a lot of tile legs

744
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 9: or whatever the case may be. So I feel great,

745
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Speaker 9: but I figured it in a four of that ars.

746
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 9: You know, his legs may have been a little bit tired. Obviously,

747
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Speaker 9: we know the cross country that Luca.

748
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Speaker 2: Had to endure.

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Speaker 9: So I had an opportunity with some pretty good legs.

750
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 9: My legs felt pretty good to night. To try to

751
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 9: I started myself a little bit offensive.

752
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Speaker 1: With no good win for them. Somebody in the crowd yelled, hey,

753
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: you don't have any hair, Lebron and said, yeah, but

754
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of something money, Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Did that really happen or noh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I clapped back at the crowd, got it, big laugh.

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Speaker 3: I did not hear it.

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00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: On the SBA Stars talked to the fans.

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Speaker 6: I love it so Luca after his wife gave birth

760
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Speaker 6: thirty one, fifteen and eleven, unbelievable.

761
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 3: Now he was right.

762
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 6: Reeves has struggled, but Reeves is carrying the team against

763
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Speaker 6: Toronto Boston. He's doing everything. Reeves only had eleven last night.

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Speaker 6: Lakers Spurs Wednesday. Your staff is telling me Wembin Yama

765
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Speaker 6: may play. This is the NBA Cup big game. I

766
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Speaker 6: know you're gonna angle for some tickets to that one.

767
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Speaker 6: We're gonna see you court side with Kim Kardashian or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Ann would not allow that. Jmack

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Speaker 1: with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Yeah. People are are are are

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00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: mad that Alabama got into the tournament because they haven't

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: played particularly well. But you know, Alabama did go to

781
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Georgia and beat Georgia, beat Tennessee, beat Missouri, hammered Vanderbilt.

782
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: They had more quality wins, the two things that the

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: committee showed you. And right now for our radio audience,

784
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Speaker 1: I'm putting putting up the twelve team playoff. I think

785
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: they got it right. I wouldn't include James Madison or

786
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Speaker 1: two lane, but I've never been to that hokey small

787
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: school thing. I think it's great in March madness when

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: you have sixty eight teams. It's not good in college

789
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: football when you have four or now twelve and eventually fourteen.

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00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: Maybe if you get to sixteen, you can have one

791
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: of them. But they don't recruit the same type of players,

792
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: and even if they did pull off an upset, they

793
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: get boat raced in the second game. Football's game of

794
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: violence and attrition, and you just need more NFL bodies.

795
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: But I think they got it right. I think the

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Speaker 1: top four seeds are Indiana, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas Tech.

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00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: I think they got it right. They got Notre Dame

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00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: over Miami. Notre Dame had a marginal quality win at home.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame didn't beat A and M or Miami. You

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00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: gotta win one, so you know, you can complain about

801
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: all you want if you take Tulane and James Madison out.

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00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: They mostly got it right. I think there's an argument

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Speaker 1: where Texas gets in over Alabama because Texas Beato, they

804
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: beat Vandy, Texas beat Oklahoma. If Texas, you know they

805
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: beat A and M. I think the best argument that

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Speaker 1: you don't like what happened is Alabama out Texas in

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Speaker 1: I think that would in my opinion, Texas has more

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Speaker 1: good quality wins. That's my take. Texas also has a

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Speaker 1: horrible loss to Florida. Although it's an SEC team, it's

810
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: not that horrible. But mostly I think, you know, it

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Speaker 1: came down to the end and they took Miami over

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. And you know Notre Dame. Now, I was

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: talking to my friend John Middlkoff about this and I said,

814
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Speaker 1: this happens all the time. You're seeing it in streaming

815
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: and television, you're seeing it at AI that we have

816
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: massive change very quickly. What used to be the death

817
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: penalty in college football was paying a player. Now you

818
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: not only do what you brag about it. College football

819
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Speaker 1: is now about thirty five percent pro football. There's free agency,

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00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: you pay the players. The coaches make ten million, and

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Speaker 1: with that, head to head's going to be more important

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Speaker 1: when you come down to an end of a season.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing is the pool games are done.

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Speaker 1: So everybody is banging on Notre Dame getting out of

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Speaker 1: the bowl games, they will not be the only team

826
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Speaker 1: to do it. I think bowl games are the latest

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Speaker 1: thing everybody's clutching too, that won't go away. Mostly nobody's

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Speaker 1: going to go to these games. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to sell tickets. The games are going to

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Speaker 1: be awful, the ratings are going to be terrible. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: going to watch these bowl games. So bowl games are

832
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: going away sooner the better. And I think conference championships.

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Speaker 1: This is not an excuse because Indiana was better than

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, but I don't see the value in conference championships.

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Speaker 1: You play twelve games and then you have the twelve

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Speaker 1: team playoffs and now I think bowl games are done,

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Speaker 1: so Notre Dame. I'm not going to criticize them for saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could get some practices, but we thought it was

839
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Speaker 1: messy at the end. And let's be honest, bowl games

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00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: don't matter anymore. The other thing to remember is a

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Speaker 1: lot of the top players don't want to play in

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00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: bowl games, right like they don't like That happened years

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00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: ago with Christian McCaffrey Fournett. People freaked out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you've played three or four years in college football

845
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Speaker 1: and you go to some second tier Credit Union Bowl game,

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: what's the point in playing? So you got star players

847
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: not playing, they don't matter you know, they don't necessarily

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00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: help recruiting. The whole sport now is regular season playoffs,

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00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: and so a lot of the change is happening fast.

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00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: They blew up the Pac twelve, they're getting rid of

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00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: bowl games. It makes people uncomfortable. I totally get it.

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00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a traditionalist. I'm okay with it. I think

853
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: we've never had more fascinating games. But I thought this

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00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: weekend with a conference championship, that's on the way out

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00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: as well. Urban Meyer around the corner