1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club more 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: than everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: are to breakfast club. We got a special guests in 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: the building. Yes indeedys, So you're sir welcome. How are you, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: my brother? Great? You look healthy? Good to be here. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: I am healthy? Absolutely. You know. I got a I'm 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: in a group chatman with Rob Markman and Havain and 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: b Dot and a couple of weeks ago and he 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: was like, yo, y'all gotta listen to Joey Badass new album. 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten a chance to listen to it. Man, 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: I listen to it a couple of days ago. Phenomenal 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: body or worth my brother like phenomenal like rap album 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: of the year category. They should be mentioned in that 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of conversation. That means a lot coming from you, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I appreciate that. Definitely worked 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: really hard on that. Um, I'm super satisfied with the project. 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I feel like all of the feedback has been really good. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: And those are my guys too, Sho, Hovan, Rob b 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Dot just some the other day, you know, I'm now 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: I text him, I text him I was like, yo, well, 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: I only tell me Joey bad As I was so good. 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: It was like we did and listening and he told me, 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: he said, you said that with rap Rado recently came 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: out to shout out to Elliott as well. You know 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: that was good. Those are my guys. Man was just 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: keeping the conversation going. Heavily inspired by the mixtape game. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: It seems like, oh yeah, but with some of the 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: first couple of samples, something in the way you make 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: me feel like, yeah, so let's talk about that. Because 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: as soon as I heard, I was like, oh, you 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: could tell he was raised on mixtapes, So let's talk 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: about that a little bit, right, Yeah. I mean, you know, 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: it was like an older and every day pulled up 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: on my man's statics shout statics, selected um and he 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: played that joint and I ain't gonna lie. I laid 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: that ship and I don't even care about it really. 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, you know, because that at that point, 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: I was experimenting a lot, you know, with my sound, 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: so when it came to, you know, the boom back 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: or the traditional style, I would just kind of be 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: bored with that. The sun I could do on my sleep, 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: so I just kind of laid it and then think 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: about it. But I was listening to with the next 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: day and then the next day and the next day. 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this shit is fired, you know what 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But definitely like with the whole mixtape, influence direction, 47 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, that's why I was raised on. That's what 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I grew up on. And this project, Um, you know, 49 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm more of a conceptual type of artists, but this one, 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: I really just kind of wanted to speak towards my 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: lifestyle and things that I was living on a day 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: to day basis. You know what I'm saying, bring people 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: to my world. I feel like it's been ten years 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: since I've been in the game, and I feel like 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: it was a perfect time for a reintroduction to Joey Badass. 56 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: So that's kind of how structured this joints. So every 57 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: time I see I feel like you you should have 58 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: been You should have grew up in the in the 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: hole of the naz Era. That's what Even when I 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: see you acting, I'm like, you are from that error, 61 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Like your whole embodiment fits that error. That's why I 62 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: told him this morning. I was like, yo, I said, 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: it's very New York but still fresh. Yeah, that's how 64 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: you moved to me. Very New York but still fresh 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, man, you know I was when I 66 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: came out at the time. Man, it was like nobody 67 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: has seen what I was doing, you know. But for me, 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a natural reaction to what 69 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: was going on, you know what I'm saying, Circle twenty ten, 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: twenty eleven. You know a lot of stuff on the 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: radio was like young money dominant. Then they started going 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: West coast with it, you know what I'm saying. And 73 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: I just felt the need that New York needed something 74 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: that like represented it again, you know what I mean. 75 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: And that's kind of just where I fell in and 76 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I felt that void kind of in 77 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: a way. And yeah, now it's just kind of part 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: of my DNA radio at that time, I know that. Well, 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, I was a kid. I hated everything. I 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: hated literally everything. I didn't want to have talked to nobody, 81 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: I ain't want to see nobody. I had no type 82 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: of gauge or really what was going on into the 83 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: magnitude of how it was going and when did that change? 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: Because you know, when when you first came out, I 85 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: guess you could consider the introvert, like you really didn't 86 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: fuck with too many people. You were just kind of 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: on your own, and and it's changed a lot since then. Yeah. Man, 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, when I first came out, I was very 89 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: crew based, you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't 90 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: want to go nowhere without my crew, you know what 91 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if I'm in the spot, my whole 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: gang is in the spot, and if they can't get in, 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: then I'm not going in, you know. And that really 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: had kept me in my own bubble, so a lot 95 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: of people couldn't like approach me. And I was being 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: told things earlier in my career like yeah, I'm gonna 97 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: approach the bone and stuff. I was like, what, Like, 98 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the nicest guy, you know what 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I could have a conversation with anybody. You know. 100 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: It's really just time and experience that went on and 101 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of realizing how many opportunities I was leaving behind 102 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: because I was straight up not go to certain rooms 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: and tables because I couldn't row five dep you know 104 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I had to smarten up as 105 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: I got older and I realized, you know, you pack light. 106 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: The lighter you pack, you know, the further you could fly, 107 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: the further you could have sen what's the quote they say, 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: if you want to go fast, go along. If you 109 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: want to go far, go together. You know what I'm saying. 110 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, now that's real because I 111 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: remember when you came out, people loved your music, but 112 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: they didn't know anything about Joey Badass. Besides, he's from 113 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Brooklyn and he runs with a lot of people. But 114 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: like today, you came in and you're talking about cars. 115 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm like that, I never even know Joey was in 116 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, and I know I do so much cars. 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm like that. But it's I'm glad to see you 118 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: opening up people getting that understanding you a lot more. 119 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: You know when it's when you're a new artist and 120 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: you're coming into the game. And that's why I have 121 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: a lot of like empathy and like patience for like 122 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: these newer guys. It's like you're still introducing yourself, you 123 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. People only can identify with the 124 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: version of you where you caught the moment at So, 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: say you got a song and it's about cheeseburgers. They 126 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: like this. Nigga like cheese. They like Nigga, Why are 127 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: you eating the glizzie you know on the street, Like 128 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it kind of just 129 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: becomes a part of your identity and shit like that. 130 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: And the more you grow and expand as an artist, 131 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: you can introduce different size of yourself, you know what 132 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: I mean. So for me being here ten years, it's 133 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: like I've been able to implement you know, different size 134 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: at the time goes on and I'm grateful for that. 135 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Why did it take so long? Why why ten years 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: between projects? Oh No, I wasn't five years ago. Um, 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: five years was my last album, All America, All American, right, 138 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: But five years is a long time too, and this business. 139 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Why five years? Man? It wasn't no specific reason, Like, 140 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I finished my last time and be like, yeah, 141 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take five years or nah. It just it 142 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: just happened that way, man. You know, I was experimenting, 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: trying to find a new direction, trying to figure out 144 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: which way I wanted to go. Um. In addition, I 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: had my first kid, you know, my daughter, she's four 146 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: years old now, um started doing a lot of TV 147 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: and film stuff started taking off. So it was just 148 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: really getting used to a new balance, and then the 149 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: pandemic set me back. Like I had a project, but 150 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: when the pandemic started, I got connected with myself in 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: a different way, you know, and it became a whole 152 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: different thing, you know. So it's just it's kind of 153 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: the way it lined up. But I'll tell you this, 154 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: like I ain't never planning on going away for that 155 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: long again, you know. Well you're still on TV a 156 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: lot though, so it didn't feel like for sure for sure, 157 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: but like it felt a little weird because I would 158 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: be going to interviews with like music people and they 159 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to me about acting, but you didn't 160 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: win the Oscar. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's 161 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of big. Well yeah, the movie wanted the movie right, Yeah, 162 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, But does that make you feel away when 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you go to interviews and people don't know you as 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: a rapper and they know you more as an act. No, 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: you don't ever make me feel a way. But it 166 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: just made me feel as I, Okay, it's been too long, 167 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: these niggas about to forget that you rap? You know 168 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, these niggas about to just identify you 169 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: as an actor, like you need to come with some 170 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: shit now, you know That's That's kind of was more 171 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the pressure I was feeling. But I think it's ill 172 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: when people, you know, notice me and they only know 173 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: me for film and TV, because I actually like that 174 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to get to get to introduce myself to people, 175 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like they meet the person 176 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: first and then they go check out my music. I 177 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: feel like it always hit different that way because right 178 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: there you could see, Okay, this nigga is not no 179 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: one dimensional type of nigga, you know what I'm saying, 180 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: And then you get into the music, like, oh, you 181 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Being an act opens up a 182 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: lot more doors, I'm sure though, Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. 183 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: You know, they made a lot of connections, you know 184 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, with a lot of great people. I mean, 185 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: shout out to everybody in the Power universe, from Sa Chapin, 186 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: Cortney camp Fifth, shout out to my man James Samuel's 187 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Even these are just people 188 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: who've been looking out for me in the film and 189 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: TV world and kind of like helping meet guide and 190 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: still myself into the right places because that shit is hard, 191 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That shit is harder than music, 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Like to be the lead role in a movie requires 193 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: ample amount of time, like you got no time for yourself. 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking about from breakfast club hours old 195 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: all the way to uh late night with Rosenberg hours 196 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: every day Monday do Friday for about seven months, you 197 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. With music, I mean, you know, 198 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the most strenuous part about being artist is like probably 199 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: tour and even tours like okay, yeah, you probably gotta 200 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: go to the next city, stay on the bus all day, 201 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: but the work really is only for about an hour 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: or two hours that night, you know what I'm saying. 203 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Everything else is kind of like just the ship that 204 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: comes with it. But acting is a way tougher y'all. 205 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: How did you get into acting? For people that don't know? Um, So, 206 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: I was at theater student in high school. I went 207 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to Edward Armorrow. Um I had like audition for a 208 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: bunch of different like drama theater programs because when I 209 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: was coming up, when I when it was time for 210 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: me to go to high school, like I always was 211 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: into music, but at the time there was no program 212 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: to go to, like work on my rap skills or 213 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: the Rapper Show. My next like best thing to me 214 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: was film, you know, I know, I always wanted to 215 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: get into that, so I kind of just tried my 216 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: little early start. I got accepted into Edward R. Murrow. 217 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: They kicked me out after myself more year though for 218 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: what My attendance was just poor. It was poor. I 219 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: was like one out of three black kids. And the 220 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: great thing about that is I was one out of 221 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: three black kids. It was me and the homie Sadique 222 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: who played ghost Face on Wu Tang Wow. So it 223 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: was dope, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know 224 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, connecting back with him the whole full 225 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: circle joint. Did you ever think you would lose your 226 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: rap identity as Joey Badass playing Inspected Deck. Um? No, 227 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna lose my rap identity. 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: But that is a good question because I was always 229 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: reluctant about playing roles that were too close to who 230 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: I am in real life, especially a rapper. I'm like, 231 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a rapper because I am 232 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: a rapper. But when I got off of that, you know, 233 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: it's Wu tang like that's a big honor. And then 234 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Rizzi has been one of my mentors in this game 235 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: for a long time, so I definitely wanted to come 236 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: through for him, like I felt he's come through for 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: me a lot of the times. But then I got 238 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: power and then I got on Vivid or Full Team. 239 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: The album two thousand, right, it's called two thousand. By 240 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: my calculations, you were five and two thousands. So what 241 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: do you what do you remember about that year? Man? 242 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: I remember so vividly being in pre k. This is like, 243 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: this had to be like right before I went to kindergarten, 244 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: probably like May or some shit. I just remember seeing 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: my teacher right on the chalkboard, like May first or something. 246 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Two thousand. I just remember that shit being a big thing. 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: And I also remember being terrified because as a kid 248 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: hearing about the watch, I'm like, mine's the world gone? 249 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: And boom, you know, two thousand came and it was 250 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: just like a whole It was a new millennium, you know, 251 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: because most people two K and ship my ship, So 252 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: because most people talking about they talked about those years 253 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: and it was teenagers. Is they're formative years, Like I 254 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: mean you were five, Yeah, yeah, I was five, but 255 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: I was very aware. I was soaking up game. You 256 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was serving tell me about 257 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: the jay Z connection because you referenced that a couple 258 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: of times on the album will make you feel and 259 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: I might be papreate and wo you say, peep game 260 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: like Jay, That's that's why he didn't sign me. That's 261 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: why I didn't. He didn't sign this. Get the Game 262 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: at Bay, like the forty nine is like that line 263 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: is inspired by you know, Jay is like definitely, Jay 264 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: is like an idol of Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 265 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: So I read his book The Coded, and that line 266 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: was inspired by piecing the coda when he said he 267 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: met with Russell Simmons for the first time and he 268 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: details experience as him like remembering sitting at that table 269 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: and looking at them and thinking to himself like damn, 270 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be signing these niggas. I 271 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: want to beat these niggas, you know what I'm saying. 272 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: So that was kind of the inspiration behind that line. 273 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, shit didn't work out or whatever 274 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: for whatever reason it didn't. Um, but shit, you remember 275 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: the first conversation with Jay, you first sit down on him. Yeah? Yeah, 276 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: I was seventeen years old. You know, he flew me 277 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: over the tour. I was in Denvil. He flew me 278 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: back out to New York to meet with him, and 279 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, I was a funny little nigga. So I 280 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: walked in and I'm like, yes, like nigga whatever it is. 281 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: He was sitting like behind his desk, kind of like 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: how it looks Charlemagne is right there, but he was 283 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: standing up like you know, doing the pacing back and 284 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: forth and shit. And it was a dope experience, man, 285 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: because at seventeen years so, I felt so limitless. Like 286 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: it was probably like when I was fifteen or sixteen, 287 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: like I visualized in my mind like I want to 288 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: be signed at jay Z. So when I was going 289 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: up in that rock Nation Building like a year or 290 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: two later, I'm like, damn, I could do anything, you 291 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I'm already I'm already intersecting 292 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: with my idol. I'm already in alignment with my idol. 293 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: Anything is possible, you know what I'm saying. That's how 294 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: I looked at it no matter what happened, whether it 295 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: worked out or didn't. You know, did he tell you 296 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: why he didn't sign y'all? It's funny like I always 297 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: see him now and I'll be wanting to have that conversation, 298 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: but the time, I feel like the time never permits. 299 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: Like where we at, you know what I'm saying, be 300 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: stuff going on, but I'd be wanting to ask him that, 301 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, because I was so 302 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: young at the time, and to me, there was no 303 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: reason to not sign a jay Z. But you know 304 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: there was other, um you know, factors involved and shit 305 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: like that. So I'm not really sure what exactly happened, 306 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: like if the communicate, if the communication channels was like 307 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: sabotage or something like that. Like, I don't know what happened, 308 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, because based off the album, it seems like 309 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: y'all used to be up there a lot, like skateboarding 310 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: in front of the building. Well, yeah, they showed us 311 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of love, you know what I'm saying. To 312 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: this day, you know, he looks out for me, shows 313 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: me a lot of love. So it's just always been, um, 314 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, what's more like three degrees of separation, you 315 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like knowing mutual people and a 316 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: lot then also Chan that's the rap. We had a 317 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: chance to wrap up here and he said, you guys 318 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: are really close. Yeah, how did y'all develop that relationship? 319 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: How y'all get so close? Man? Since the beginning? You know, 320 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Like I think I was probably the first dude in 321 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: the industry to like Collid with a Chance, you know 322 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, back in the day, and I remember 323 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: seeing his video for Hey Miles, like his first single, 324 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: and I remember seeing that ship right away, Like, Yo, 325 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: this dude is a star, you know what I'm saying. 326 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: And you to Chicago. We had connected one time and 327 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: from there we was just cool, you know what I'm saying. 328 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: He was always a good dude to be around, good energy, 329 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: good spirit, and like, you know, just like mindedness. You know, 330 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: shout out to my dog Chance. We got the hogs 331 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: and the lows out right now. I think it's definitely 332 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: one of the best songs that dropped this year, you know. 333 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: And I like what you said about this being a 334 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: reintroduction to Joy Badass, because you do tell so much 335 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: about yourself. You talk about your cousin Richie rich writing 336 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: your writing your first rap? Yeah, but what kind of 337 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: battery did that? Putting your back? Man? I mean, he 338 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: just like really gave me structure, you know what I'm saying, 339 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: Like he taught me how to count balls and all that, 340 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: because I'm like, what is the sixteen and he kind 341 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: of broke it down for me. It's kind of like 342 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: he's like, it's kind of like a line a line 343 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: by line, you know what I'm saying. So having characters 344 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: like that in my life at an early age definitely 345 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: gave me like the extra confidence, you know what I'm 346 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: saying to do it, because while other kids was like 347 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: kind of struggling trying to figure out what they were doing, 348 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I actually had guidance, you know what I mean, some 349 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: type of guidance like you know, look, that's how you 350 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: write a rap. Boom boo. Let me write your first 351 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: rap for you. Let me get you set up. And 352 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: then you know, I had other older cousins who's a 353 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: rapping shit like that For a long time. It was 354 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: a running joke because when I was a kid, I 355 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: used to always tell them, yo, yeah, y'all need to 356 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: bring me to the studio. Boom and then my ship 357 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: blew up and I was like, ah, yeah, niggas, do 358 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: you remember writing your first rap um my first rap? Nah? Nah? 359 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember in my first rod, but it 360 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: must have been in like first grade because that's when 361 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: I was introduced the poetry and I identified it as 362 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: like I was like, Oh, this is shit that biggie doing. 363 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: That's like what my brain said, you know what I mean. 364 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: And if from there I got into poetry, but I 365 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 1: would always do like rap style poems. What did your 366 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: family say back then when you when you started rapping 367 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: because you got accepted to this this great school, but 368 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: you wanted to rap. Well, the thing is I was 369 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: already rapping before the school, you know what I'm saying. 370 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: My family already knew that that's what I like to do. 371 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna out of My family always been supportive, 372 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they was pretty much 373 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: more like amazed by my conviction because you know I 374 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: used to My mom used to kicking me out. We 375 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: used to fall out, and then I would go by 376 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: my grand mom's and I would set like a make 377 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: I would set up a makeshift studio in the basement, 378 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: so It's like, you know, it would be a running 379 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: joke in my family, like, Oh, you don't go down 380 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: there and mess with javon studio stuff, you know what 381 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: I mean. I would have like the towels hanging from 382 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: the ceiling, create like a whole little booth. But I 383 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: remember the first time I spent that verse that my 384 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: cousin wrote for me for my mom's I was like 385 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: nine years old, and she went something like, my name 386 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: is little Jay, and I got the nain you messed 387 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: with me, and I blow off your mind. They hating cousins. 388 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: I'll be on my ground and I always shine while 389 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: you acting like your shelf clocks for I put a 390 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: pipe bomb in your mailbox some shit like that, right, 391 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't even know what. Nah. She even 392 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: stat for me me. She was like, do you know what 393 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: a nine is? And I was like, I'm to me, 394 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm nine, so it just sounds nine years 395 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: old for me. I'm like, nah. She was like it's 396 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: a gun. First of all. I was like word. And 397 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: then she gave me the realist advice. She was like, yo, look, 398 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: if you want to do this, you could do that, 399 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: but you just gotta be true to yourself and from 400 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: there I just kind of took that in rand with 401 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: She didn't saying about the pipe bomb. Nah. I think 402 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: she kind of figured out that it wasn't my words, 403 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, somebody who else was involved 404 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: in that. Now I love written in the stars too. 405 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned your daughter earlier. You said your daughter was 406 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: your wake up call that What did that wake up 407 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: call look like? Do you? Yeah? You know when I 408 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: had my daughter, it was like, oh shit, I only 409 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: got one kid, you know what I mean? I was 410 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: I felt so obligated in the earlier years in my 411 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: career to take kid people and you know, look out 412 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: for people and to the point where, you know, a 413 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: lot of the times it burned me out, you know, 414 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: um feeling that get feeling like guilt survivors guilt and 415 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: things of that nature. But you know, when my baby 416 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: girl came, I was like, oh, okay, this is really 417 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: the only person I'm responsible for, you know what I'm saying. 418 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: And now that she's his different, Like, if you can't 419 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: respect that, then you know we can't even be cool 420 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: no more. How's your life change? How do you move 421 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: differently now that you have a girl? You have more conviction, 422 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: do you invest more? Like? How do that change you 423 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: as a father to man? Well? Yeah, you know, definitely 424 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: more focused, definitely more intention and everything that I do, 425 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to you know, spending and living. 426 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean shit, I was I'm a very spontaneous type 427 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: of due. So one thing that I realized quick was like, 428 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: oh shit, I don't got the same free you somebody 429 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: used to have, Like I would be able to go 430 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: to Africa tomorrow now, you know what I'm saying, I 431 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: gotta set it up, make sure hey, things good, she good, 432 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: like weeks in advance. You know. I say it made 433 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: me more patient, It made me more gentle, It made 434 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: me more willing to learn and listen, you know what 435 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, especially with a baby girl, I feel 436 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: like it's way more delicate. You know. How did you 437 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: change your overall perspective of women? Um? Definitely, Like you know, 438 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: from time to time I would have the thought like 439 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't with my daughter to you know what I'm 440 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: saying being in a situation like that, So it definitely 441 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: kind of gives you a heightened state of awareness. I 442 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: would say, you know, when it comes to that interaction 443 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: but I mean, I've always been a super respectful man anyway, 444 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: but like you know, with my baby girl in my life, 445 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: it definitely kind of shapes my mind in a way, like, 446 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: all right, let me try to be more like the 447 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: version of the man that I would want my baby 448 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: girl to grow up. Man, you know, be with deal 449 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: with Do you ever look at it like I was 450 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: this way as a man and now I gotta change 451 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: because I don't want my daughter to like that as 452 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: a man. Um Yes and no, because you know, life 453 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: is about growth. You know, nobody's gonna come straight off 454 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: with a tree like boom, perfect solid, the full man 455 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: that they're supposed to be. Like, Nah, you gotta experience, 456 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: and you know I want, I want. I don't want 457 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: none of that to be hidden from my child, Like 458 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't want her to ever view life as a 459 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: thing where you could skip steps and still get by. 460 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like everything counts to 461 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: whatever point in time. You you know what I mean, 462 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Everything is added up. You know we all got we 463 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: all got all types of childhood traumas that we couldn't 464 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: even run from if we tried to. You know what 465 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it was inevitable, there was no way to 466 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: get off that path or whatever. And these are the 467 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: things that affect us saying, you know what I'm saying, 468 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: ultimately shape who we are, you know what I mean. 469 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: But as long as you know, you got that growth mindset, 470 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: or as long as whoever she's with got that growth mindset, 471 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: then I got some patience, you know, I got some sympathy. 472 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: You talked about that being your only child, like did 473 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: that inspire the line on cruise control? And I'm know 474 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing again, but it's like you basically said you 475 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: had to cut off friends you outgrew because you were 476 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: just holding onto them because of the history, right that 477 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: y'all had together. When did you realize that fully? Um? Yeah, 478 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: I want to say definitely closer that time that I 479 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: had had my child, you know, and starting to kind 480 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: of put my life into perspective, looking at assets versus liabilities, 481 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: like what was what was? Um? You know, my dad 482 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: always give me this analogy, especially when it comes to money, 483 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: is like it's like having a bag, right and you're 484 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: filling it up with water, but it got a hole 485 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: in it, and the hole is representative of your liabilities 486 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: or your overhead. So I was really starting to look 487 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: at it like that, like who's helping me close this hole? 488 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: Who's helping me make this shit bigger? And that's where 489 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: my discernment started to come in and to develop. And 490 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's how I was able to separate the 491 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: real from the fake. Really, and now I'll just roll. 492 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: I just the way I'm moving around is like way lighter, 493 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, and that's part of 494 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: it too. But then also you have the friends who 495 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: even if you're doing for them, they feel like it's 496 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: never enough. Yeah, man, like they're entitled. That's where the 497 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: entitlement creeps in, you know what I'm saying. M Yeah, 498 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta, you gotta be real careful with that. 499 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on some I'm in a headspace now 500 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: where as soon as I feel those negativities or those disconnections, 501 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm you know what I mean, Because I 502 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: ain't about to sit here and drain myself out and 503 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: try to, um, you know, make somebody happy who can't 504 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: make theirself happy. You know, that's that's like a waste 505 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: of your time. You know what I'm saying, and I'm 506 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: done wasting my time, like I'm trying to elevate, trying 507 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: to be the best of me and like that type 508 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: of shit is just uh detours. What did they say, 509 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Joey's Joey Hollywood Now? Not because I ain't never moved 510 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: out of New York, you know what I mean? Shit, 511 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, New Drules, but you know I'm 512 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: still here now in the baddest. First of all, you 513 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: and you and Diddy seemed like y'all have a strong relationship. Absolutely. 514 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: How did he get so cool and so close? Man? 515 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: I met Diddy? Uh when it was this twenty sixteen 516 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: or twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen coming out to Rihanna met 517 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: gala after party and want to know, he was walking out, 518 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: I was walking in and he was just like, yo, King, 519 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: I've been trying to connect with you for years, Like 520 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to sign are you back in the day, 521 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is all news to me, you 522 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's the first time. I mean, 523 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like wow, word boom. And in that 524 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: same week I had rolled it out in Miami and 525 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: then I ran into him again and if from there 526 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: it was just like we would just roll dogs, you 527 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he would be going soon, yo, Joe, 528 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm being in New York. Boom pull up, you know. 529 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: And we just kind of developed that relationship like that. 530 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: And it's like I'm too yeah, exactly shit because of me, 531 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I got him on that project, 532 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I got him involved. I made a phone call and 533 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: made it happen, you know what I'm saying. And this, 534 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm super grateful for that relationship because me, I'm a sponge. 535 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: So it's like you bring me around to the right 536 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: wounds and tables, like I ain't taking that ship for granted. 537 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm connected, I'm networking, I'm you know what I'm saying, 538 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm using the opportunity fruitfully, you know what I mean, 539 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: as it should be. So that's how he's always he's 540 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: the fact that he could identify that in me. I'm 541 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: very appreciative for that, you know what I'm saying. And 542 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: it's like as like his little bro, like I want 543 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: to maximize on those things. I don't want to let 544 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: him down. You know what I'm saying. I want to 545 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: return plus interest. You know what I'm saying, Return on investment, 546 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: and it ain't even that type of situation. There ain't 547 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: no business involved. It's just really just love. But that's 548 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: just my mindset, that's my character. You know. He did 549 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: the intro and the outro. On the outro, he said 550 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: something to the effect of, um, you know, we gotta 551 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: we gotta bring that New York feeling back, Like you know, 552 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: people are sometimes we lost ourselves a little bit by 553 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: those conversations that y'all have. And do you think that 554 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: you can actually bring New York back if you live 555 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: in someplace like Miami, La. But you gotta be here, Yeah, 556 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: I think you gotta be here for show because you 557 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: gotta connect with the pulse of the city, you know 558 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I was talking to my boy 559 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: Fur the other day and we definitely plying on like 560 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: just bringing some synergy back here, you know what I mean, 561 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: having like different events. I feel like the city is 562 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of disconnected. It's dead right now. Like there's a 563 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: lot of disconnection, you know what I'm saying, Like we 564 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: all know each other, but ain't nobody linking up. Ain't 565 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: nobody got no central spot, no safe spaces, ain't enough 566 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: safe spaces, No more just random little events here like 567 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: shut go here, shit, I don't know, you know, um 568 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: what was the question? The question was do you all 569 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: have those conversations about bringing the feeling back? Oh? Yeah, 570 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, me and Puff we've spoken about 571 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: that over the years, Like you know, I'll play him 572 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: some songs. He's like, yeah, like this is the vib 573 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: this ain't the vibe, or you should do this, you 574 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: should go more here. You know, but that's usually the 575 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: focus of the conversation. You know what I'm saying. We're 576 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: always trying to stay in that essence. He still got it. 577 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: En said he don't got no end no more. Fifty 578 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: said did he ain't got no? That's a lot, that's 579 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot. Puff. I feel like he always gonna have it. Yeah, 580 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Now, who do you respect 581 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: lyrically now? Because you know, of course in the battles 582 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: you talk about of course Kenny, yourself and Cold. So 583 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: who do you respect lyrically now? Um, lirial clyar. Shit. 584 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like there's a lot of people 585 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: doing anything right now, Like you got Grizelda, you got 586 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: Freddie Gibbs, you got j I D you know, you 587 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: got my homie Flapper zombies um been doing their ship 588 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: and people I don't never mentioned flat Ba Zombie slew 589 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: the flat Ba Zombie. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm 590 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: a real Booklyn, New York nigga, the East Coast nigga. 591 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna putting on from my city and ship. 592 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: But you got Denzel Curry doing this thing too. You 593 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: know that's just a few. I want to be loved. 594 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: I love that hookies. I want to be loved and 595 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, not judged. Why why is that so hard 596 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: for us to just love and not judge people? Man? 597 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Because societal norms, you know what I mean, like the society, 598 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: the world that we're living in, the agreements that we have, 599 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: the ego, you know what I'm saying. I mean social 600 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: media in itself, it's just a judgment app. You know, 601 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: you're scrolling down and you're just analyzing and judging and 602 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: making observations inferences, and you know, you're just looking at 603 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: everybody highlight reels and you think, you know you saw 604 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: comparing it to yourself and to your life. Like you know, 605 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: I feel like if we could just learn how to 606 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: love and you know, detach ourselves from go like, you know, 607 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: the world will be a better place obviously. You know, 608 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I never realized too, man, just listening to that, I 609 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: never realized how much you sound like most death YO 610 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: people be saying. I don't hear it. On this project especially, 611 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it's like he really sound like 612 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: most I don't hear it. I most is like, you know, 613 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite rappers, like Whomi says, it's probably 614 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs all time, So I would 615 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: love to sound like that, but I don't hear it. Though, 616 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: not hear it, I mean, and it's not you know, 617 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the rhyme start. It's not like you're imitating him, and 618 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: it's just the voice like that sound like most YE 619 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: people always say that. Now you can tell that you've 620 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: really been doing the work on yourself mentally too, you 621 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you go to therapy, I do, Okay, 622 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you go to therapy. U. I started going to therapy 623 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: back at twenty twenty. You know, as unfortunate as that 624 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: pandemic was for a lot of people, you know what 625 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I definitely don't want to be insensitive 626 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: when I say this, but for me, I needed that shit, 627 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I didn't know stillness 628 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: in my adult life. Like I hit the ground running 629 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: that seventeen years old. I was still a kid still 630 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: in high school and had to like was forced on 631 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: accelerated growth, you know what I mean, just pushed out there, 632 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: just had to keep it going. And I didn't realize 633 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: for about five six years, I didn't stop. I hadn't stopped. 634 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I hadn't gotten any type of still time. I hadn't 635 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: like had real time to connect with my family even 636 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: more appointedly myself, you know what I mean. So when 637 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: I finally got that space in that time, it's like 638 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: I just I just went real deep inside, you know 639 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, and I realized things that I needed. 640 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need that, you know what 641 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I need to be held accountable for 642 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: my shortcomings. I need those to be pointed out to 643 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: me because I'm what you call a self improvement junkie, 644 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm committed and devoted to being a better version 645 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: of myself every time I show up, you know what 646 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you could see the evolution in all 647 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club interviews. I think this is our third one. Yeah, 648 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I pride myself on that. 649 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, so therapy was definitely an outlet that I 650 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: saw too bring me closer to a higher self awareness 651 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: and just state of being. What it induced you to it? 652 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: How did you decide to do it? What that decision? Well, 653 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've always been open minded, and I started 654 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: to resonate with the idea that black people tap therapy 655 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: being so tabboo to us. You know what I'm saying, Like, 656 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: what it was is I was introduced to the concept 657 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: of emotional intelligence and that kind of blew my mind. 658 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: That opened so many doors for me because I'm like, wow, 659 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: like we really wasn't taught this how important it is 660 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: to identify your own emotions in relation to the people 661 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: around you. You know what I'm saying, Like, shit, we 662 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: might just wake up in a bad move and you 663 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: wearing that moved and now your household is feeling that 664 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: move and you don't even realize you just passed that 665 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: moved on to your son. Now your son is in 666 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: school with that moved and he passed that on to 667 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, energies. Energy is so contagious 668 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: and once I kind of like realized that it started 669 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: to you know, open little pathways in my brain, like 670 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: them even identifying with frustration as an emotion, you know 671 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you tell a lot of black 672 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: men if you if you tell a black man you're 673 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: you're being emotional. That's like offensive. But people don't realize that. Yo, 674 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: if you're angry, if we're having a conversation, you're just 675 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: screaming because you're mad. You're in your emotion, you know 676 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. People get emotion emotionally hijacked every day, 677 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: be every day like blinded by emotion, blinded by rage. 678 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: So I just kind of started on that path for 679 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: understanding myself more. Because I grew up I had like 680 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: anger issues and stuff like that. It was hard to 681 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: me to identify a lot of things that I was feeling. 682 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: Did you figure out where that anger came from? Now? 683 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I think now that I think about it, looking in 684 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: the hindsight, I think a lot of it came from 685 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: when my parents split, you know what I'm saying, and 686 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: me not knowing how to process that manifesting the something else, 687 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: like me trying to find a reason for elsewhere. You 688 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I can't. I can't that same 689 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: realization in therapy, Like I didn't realize how much my 690 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: parents divorcing had impacted me and how angry I was 691 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: at my pops for that word up world up. You 692 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, and that that should do 693 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: something that you especially as a black man, you know 694 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, because now you got that separation from 695 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: your father and it's like you need your father or 696 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: as a black man, especially in this fucking world. That's 697 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: why I love that Kendrick record. Uh is it ay 698 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: the time? Man? Because I'm like, Yo, that's how every 699 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: black man feels when it comes to their relationship with 700 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: their dad, Like that's our first hero. That's who we 701 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: really want validation from, and when we don't have that, 702 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: it does make you feel like less of a man. 703 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: And he might implement, you know, ideas of manhood and 704 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: you that aren't really manhood. But it's like a gift 705 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: in the curse because what he's saying on the song too, 706 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: it's like his pops is on something like like fucky 707 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: emotions nigga, like ye ain't nobody don't nobody cared nigga working? 708 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, yo, I was just 709 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: my pops just went on a vacation for the first 710 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: time in like thirty years. Wow, you know what I'm saying, 711 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: Like I'm super proud of him, Like to him say that, 712 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: like they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks, 713 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like I was, I 714 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: was very excited to hear that, like he something awoken 715 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: in him to like break past his comfort zone. You know, 716 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: because especially with our parents and shit, like, they locked 717 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: into a lot of their mindsets and a lot of 718 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: their thinking and anything like. This new generation is way 719 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: more open minded. It's a lot of new concepts being 720 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: introduced and stuff like that that our parents were seeing. 721 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: You Like what you know, did you ever had that 722 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: conversation with your pop? Because you know, one of the 723 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: best things that helped me was having a conversation with 724 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: my pops and realizing that he was going to therapy 725 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: two or three times a week back in the day 726 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: he tried to kill himself. Back in the day, he 727 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: was gonna tend to twelve different medications. It made me 728 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: give him more great because I realized, damn, he was 729 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: somebody before he was my parents, right, and you know, 730 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: he was just doing the best he could, but what 731 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: he had, Yeah, you know, I have to. I have 732 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: great conversations from my dad all of the time, and 733 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: it's like I have my own interpretations of it because 734 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: I feel like my understanding and his understanding is definitely different, 735 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: and it's like a generational difference. And I came to 736 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of growing accept that because I just for me, 737 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: what fulfills me, what I appreciate. What I'm grateful for 738 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: is that I could hear my old man's wisdom, you 739 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's like it's up to 740 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: me to interpret that however I see fit. But just 741 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: being able to hear that, Like, you know, I might 742 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more spiritually advanced than my dad, 743 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: but I could never be more experienced than him, you 744 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And Dad alone just make me 745 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: so grateful for any time we connect, you know what 746 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I feel like it's a meeting of 747 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the minds and you can learn from anybody, you know 748 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I like to say, I'm a 749 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: student in every room. You know, shit, i could be 750 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: the teacher in the room and I'm still student, right 751 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: do you really meditate every day? You say that on 752 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: the album, So you meditate every day? Nah, it's hard 753 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: to meditate every day, like you know, that's more of 754 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: like a manifestation. I would like to meditate every day 755 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: at a point, I was, you know, in the pandemic 756 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: for show. But one thing I try to do is 757 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: pray every day because I feel like it's a form 758 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: of you know, meditation or just a form of being 759 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: able to like program you're thinking in the right way. 760 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: How were you during the pandemic with with everything going on? 761 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Because you were in New York during a pandemic. I 762 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: was in Jersey years in Jersey. But how were you 763 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: during that time? Man? I was just to myself, bro, 764 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: Like I call it a time of internal retreat, you know, 765 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: like I was. I was doing a lot of things. 766 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: I was practicing celibacy. I was reading a lot of books, 767 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. In six months, I probably 768 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: read like ten or fifteen books. I was like the 769 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: most in one setting, you know, um, watching a lot 770 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: of videos. I started cooking. I was making salads, you know, 771 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: cooking to make it salads. Well, yeah, facts, I was 772 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: making salads. But I learn how to make salmon all 773 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: of that. You know, my ship was slapping too. What 774 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: did you see about it? Because I always say, you know, 775 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: the pandemic, like you said earlier, made all of us 776 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: be still for the first time. A lot of us 777 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: had to like really be still for the first time 778 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: and deal with ourselves. Couldn't run from our traumas or nothing. 779 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: What did you see that made you be like, oh no, 780 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go do some work on myself. I saw. 781 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: I felt like I saw how much I was settling 782 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: for the short end of the stick. Like you know, 783 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of the like the first half 784 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: of my career really focused and obliged to taking care 785 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: of other people, and in that I put a lot 786 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: of people before myself. So when the pandemic, it kind 787 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: of put things a perspective to me. It's like, damn, 788 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: I got I did this one for that one, that 789 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: one for this one. But what the fuck do I 790 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: have to show for myself? What have I done for myself? 791 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: And then that ship was a whole reset because then 792 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: I came out the pandemic damn selfish, but in the 793 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: best way possible, because I've never been that person, you know, 794 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: like the shit is evident too, Like, I'm glad you 795 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: noticed that. You said, Yo, you look healthy, Like this 796 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: is what I look like when I'm focused on myself. 797 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: This is what I look like when I take that 798 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: time to you know, take care of myself, like to 799 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: love myself. This is what it looked like, you know, 800 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: like before that it was it wasn't too much love 801 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: for self. Did the pandemic finally give you the opportunity 802 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: to grieve? Steve's the right way. Um, it definitely gave 803 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: me opportunities. But um, I would say my grieving has 804 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: probably like finally, I don't I don't know this this 805 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: this grieving, is it a complete process? Does it get 806 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a complete process. But I 807 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: was gonna say, when I listened to Survivor's Guilt, I 808 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: feel like you have finally started processing Yes, you know 809 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: his death. Yeah, and that's why I was getting that, 810 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: Like this is the first year where I definitely feel 811 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: somewhat like a little bit of peace, you know what 812 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean. It's ten years later, it's like I'm finally 813 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: feeling that sense of peace. But just with Stesus, you know, 814 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: I still I'm still majorly grieving my cousin junior there. Yeah, 815 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: because it was just a whole different situation. You know, 816 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: how did how did you how are you processing it? Like? 817 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, did it make you look at because I 818 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: had a friend committed suicide in twenty twenty and when 819 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: she did that, it made me look at suicide differently. Well, listen, man, 820 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: it definitely brought me to a very dark place. And 821 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: you know me, I'm very intuitive. So something inside me 822 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: told me because I remember coming from the funeral for 823 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: me and CJ was on the way back to the 824 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: crib and I remember telling him like, yo, bro, we 825 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: gotta be strong for everybody else, you know, because it's 826 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: easy to fall right now, you know, it's easy to 827 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: get pulled into that low energy. And I got pulled 828 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: into that ship. Even after saying it, even after having 829 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: that a witness and that understanding that I couldn't go there, 830 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: I still got sucked into that, you know what I mean. 831 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: It brought me at a very low, low place. I 832 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: was depressed, like I felt so many ways. I'm like, damn, 833 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: like seventeen years old, Like I know, so many people 834 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: were so much older than me and they've never lost 835 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: somebody this close to them, you know what I mean. 836 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: It was just it was a lot of unsettling emotions 837 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: and feelings and at the same time, dealing with fame 838 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: for the first time, dealing with you know what I'm saying, 839 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: Like the ills of that. It was bugged. That's a 840 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: natural though. I'm sure your therapist told you that you 841 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: gotta lights up to feel your feels like yeah, and 842 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: that's what I realized too, Like for like I was, 843 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm grateful for the fact that I 844 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: was able to put a lot of my trauma off 845 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: because I was so busy, because I don't know what 846 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: I would have did with that idle time, you know 847 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I was hottied, pressed, like I 848 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: felt suicidal all of that, you know what I mean. 849 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: Like I was very convinced that I wasn't gonna live 850 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: past twenty five, Like at seventeen eighteen, I was very 851 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: convinced to that. I'm like, there's no way, Like I 852 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: didn't see life after twenty five. Even when I turned 853 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: twenty five. I was a mind fuck for me because 854 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like it really hit me home. I'm like, 855 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: I did not realize life. I did not visualize life 856 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: this far. Wow, And then right there I drew up 857 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: a twenty year plan. Did you look at suicide differently 858 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of people, especially in New York, it's 859 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: probably all over wheld, but especially in New York when 860 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: growing up as a kid, when you think of suicide, 861 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: the first thing that people think is your soul for 862 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: your week. But then when you start having those emotions 863 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: in that feeling, you realize far from that. First of all, 864 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: like it's weird to say this, but like I think 865 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: suicide is an incredibly brave thing. You have to have 866 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of fucking like audacity to do that to yourself, 867 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then it's like who 868 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: withstand that pain or whichever way? Like you know, like 869 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: it's heavy, it's heavy, but it's like that shit, there's 870 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: nothing soft about that, nothing at all. It ain't nothing 871 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: soft about that, you know what I'm saying. Like I 872 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: remember when I was at that point, I'm feeling low, 873 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: and like as low as I was feeling and as 874 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: convinced I was that like I didn't really want to live, 875 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: I couldn't find that courage to actually do it, you 876 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I just couldn't find that, 877 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: Like it's it's a lot my home girl, Jazz rest 878 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: in peace. She did it in twenty twenty, completed suicide. 879 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: That's what they say to say shanty dass. But Jazz 880 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: said she was so intentional and so calculated and so 881 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: strategic that when she did it, in my mind, I 882 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: processed it like she just knew it was her time 883 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: to go, Like I, you know, I've never had that 884 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: feeling like it's time for me to exit, you know. 885 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: But even if you go look at her Twitter, she 886 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: was saying things like I wonder what my next life 887 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be like and things like that. So something 888 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: came over her when she knew today is my day. 889 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, Steve, it was the same way with Steve's 890 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he definitely was vocal 891 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: about it leading up to it happening, you know what 892 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and like when it was just it was weird. Man. 893 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: It's so now that the deported buying that new portion 894 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: nine eleven, did it really help your mental health? That? Yeah, 895 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what I'm saying, Because sometimes 896 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: you gotta show yourself like what you can like achieved 897 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: like it with it being a superficial item and a 898 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: material thing. To me, it was more represented like me 899 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: having a goal, you know, and me proving myself once again, 900 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: like anything that's possible, Like that was my dream car 901 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: and I could have got it for a long time, 902 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: but then one day I just decided, y'all gonna do it. 903 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: And I remember ship like waking up the next morning 904 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: and seeing it in my garage. I'm like, damn, like 905 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, it really did something for my state of being, 906 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: my state of mind, you know what I'm saying, Like 907 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 1: I had to prove to myself, like I know, all 908 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: I gotta do is be connected to the soul, but 909 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: now I need to poor. Now. What I love about you, 910 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: Joey Man, is like when when when when you see 911 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: a black man doing the work, it does reflecting his life, 912 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: It reflecting the way he looks and reflecting his career professionally. 913 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: This is probably your best body of work album way 914 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: you see what you're doing in Hollywood. So that's why, man, 915 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: when I see you, when I see that and I 916 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: hear you telling these stories about going to therapy and everything, 917 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's gonna convince So many more black men 918 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: to go go do the work. Absolutely. Man. It's like, 919 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, I always probably myself on being some type 920 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: of role model because it's like with this position I got, 921 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: with this stature, with this platform, It's like I got 922 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: so many people listening, and I feel like the least 923 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: I could do is implant seeds that will sprout, like, 924 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, more opportunity for these people, or just you know, 925 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: wisdom that will transcend you into the right directions for 926 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: these people and stuff like that, and also just making 927 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: them not feel alone. Like I realized that, like my 928 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: most relatable work is my most vulnerable work. And usually 929 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: when I go to like a survivors guilt or show Me, 930 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: people relate to that ship more. You know what I'm saying, 931 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: Because Yeah, let's get into a joint off the album 932 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: what you want to hear bro on, Let's head Where 933 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: I Belong, Where I Belong. We appreciate you for Joey 934 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: Badass Man, keep growing my brother, Joey Badass. It's the 935 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Good morning,