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Sure what's going on? 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thanks for taking my call. Ronne. Nice to 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: talk to you. Again, I talked to you about five 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: years ago. I came up to your shop. But that's 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: that's another story, okay, Ron, I'm thinking about getting a 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a twenty twenty three jeep Wagoner, 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: I mean Grand Wagoneer. Grand Cherokee got it right with 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: the V eight and uh, you know that's like the 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: Overland or Summit. I'm wondering what you think of the 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: the the jeep if you've had any experience with the 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: V eight, the he me there, the five point seven 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: and the car as a general, you know. 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: How many miles around it? 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Steve, Well, I haven't gotten it yet. They gotta, they 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: gotta find a they find a V eight. They found 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: one has had like one hundred thousand miles on it. 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want that, you know, mileage, mileage in age, brother, 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: all right, I want something, you know, something two years old. 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: I want thirty thousand miles on it or less? 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: Really? 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's just the way I'm built, you know, 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: And I'll pay more for a lower mileage vehicle. Reason being, 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: reason being and think of think of me, right? Can 42 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: imagine going car shopping with me? 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: Right? 44 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Reason reason being less mileage means less likelihood somebody worked 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: on it and made a mistake, right, and I would 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: I would pay for that, I really would. Now, I'm 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: going to tell you the way I think about Jeep 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: and Chrysler, and no offense to Jeep in Chrysler owners. 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: I think you know, Jeep and Chrysler are still in 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: one of my top five choices. They're not at the 51 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: top top. 52 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 5: But. 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: There some reliability issues, some of the things that break 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: and fail. I don't think I would buy a new 55 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: or used Jeep or Chrysler without putting an extended warranty 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: on it. And that's just being honest. 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: You know, would you go for a three year or 58 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: a five year five? Five? 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: Five? 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: All right? I think it's I think it's worth the value. 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: Jeeps are funny. Je well, jeeps are funny critter Steve, 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: all right. You know, it seems that there are some 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: out there that fifty thousand miles they need an engine, 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: and there are some out there one hundred and fifty 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: thousand miles and they're running strong, and I can't figure 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: it out. There's no rhyme or reason. I've got customers. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: I've got one customer, his son's got a fifteen Wrangler. 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: It's got one hundred and sixty three thousand miles on it. 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: He changes the oil, he does his regular maintenance, He 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: lets us do the big services and so forth. And 71 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: that thing's a brick. It just keeps going. And then 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: I've got some other ones that same service, same treatment, 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: same driving habits, and they're junk. They're just it just 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: doesn't hold up. And you sit there and you scratch 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: your head. 76 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: So you know what, I think the V eight is 77 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: a little more reliable than. 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: The Yes, yes, as long as it doesn't have any 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: of the valve train issues and you stay up on 80 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: your oil changes. And let me tell you that vehicle 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: is that engine has some specific oil requirements, and I 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: would follow it like religion. 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: All right, Is that right? Yeah? 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: I would? I would, Yeah, I would. I would be 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: using Chrysler Speck oil in that vehicle, and I would 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: be dumping it every five to six thousand miles every 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: five to six months. I don't care what the manufacturer 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: tells me. I don't want to hear about extended oil 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: drain intervals and all that nonsense, because it sounds like 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: you're going to buy this and try and get one 91 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty tw hundred thousand miles out of it. Yeah, definitely. 92 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: And the reason I say a five year service contract 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: is because you know, if if it gets to that 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: seventy five eighty mile one hundred thousand mile mark and 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: nothing's gone wrong, you got your value out of it. 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: But if the engine pukes at sixty five thousand miles, 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: at least it's covered, right, and you know it's you're 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: you're not buying You're not buying a cheap automobile. 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: All right, No, it's you got to get the overland 100 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: or the summit to get the VA right. 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: And it's all the bells, all right. Listen, there's a 102 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: reason my jeep guy. You know, listen, every business owner 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: has a has a guy. Right, I've got a guy 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: that sells me jeep parts. I got a guy that 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: sells me GM parts and so on. My jeep guy 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: drives a Ford Mustang, okay. And I asked him, I 107 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: said why and he said how many times do you 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: call for parts? And I said, well, quite often, he said, 109 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: And that's the reason, because he sees what breaks. And 110 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: it's it's not that you know, listen, all cars break, 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: but Chrysler seems to have some issues with parts distribution. 112 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: It's gotten better, but you know, I'm just cautious, man, 113 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: I'm just cautious. Would I like to own a Jeep? Yes, 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I just don't have time to fix one. And that's 115 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: and that's the bottom line. But but but if you 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: really like that twenty three dreep Jeep Grand Cherokee, and 117 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: you like that V eight, and you've driven that vehicle, 118 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: and I know the vehicle you're talking about, if that's 119 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: the vehicle that floats your boat by it, by all means, 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: just just find a guy to work on it, regular maintenance, 121 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: a service contract, form a relationship with the dealership if 122 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: that's where it's gonna go, right right, and just enjoy 123 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: the vehicle. 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you, Ron. I have another question. I 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: contacted to another friend, a whose card dealer down in Corny. 126 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: Now see, I'm at a new car dealer now and 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: they can only draw from their dealership. Now supposedly they 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: have fifty one dealerships, so maybe they can get the 129 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: V But this used car guy, obviously he probably got 130 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: it with an auction and it's in Tennessee or something, 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: but he had three V eights, and I don't know 132 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: if I'm going to be able to get a V 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: eight with this, uh, the dealership deal. 134 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: Don't negotiate with yourself, Steve. 135 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, just hold to the Hold to the V eight. 136 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, hold for the VA. Don't negotiate with yourself. You're 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: buying it. Listen, you're buying a premium product, right, you're 138 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: buying a premium product. You want to deal with the 139 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: front of the horse. Okay, okay, and you tell the 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: dealership that you know what life's about relationships, man, it 141 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: really is. One. 142 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: If I went with the used car dealer down in Cornie, 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: what should I go with their warranty? 144 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: Well, my concern is it's a used car dealer. Nothing 145 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: against used car dealers, but you know, it's a I 146 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: think it's a little easier for that used car guy 147 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: to go out of business and reopen under Fred's used 148 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: cars rather than Joe's used cars versus the dealership that's 149 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: got fifty one dealers across the country. 150 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the thing is he's he might be the 151 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: only one they'll get me a VA twenty three. You 152 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: don't know that, Well that's true. No, No, you're right. 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: Right, and listen as long as we're doing this a 154 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: V eight twenty three. You know, as long as we're 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: doing this, don't we want to get something that maybe 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: the dealer's service, maybe the dealer is going to get 157 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: one in on trade from the area dealer purchase. There's 158 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: no guarantee that that car coming out of Tennessee isn't 159 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: a flood car, isn't from Arizona, isn't from Florida, isn't 160 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: from Texas. Not that's anything wrong with those states. But 161 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: you can't listen. I try not to take I take 162 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: cars personal, all right. I try to look at cars 163 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: as what they are and where they're from, because you know, 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: there's a certain element of I can't think of the word. 165 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking for spirituality to a car. It's not a 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: cold piece of metal. It just doesn't, all right, it 167 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: just doesn't. I want to know where it came from. 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: I want to know who worked on and I want 169 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: to know who touched it. And if I can't, if 170 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: I can't get a car, if i'm you know, you're 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: buying a hot. 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: Rod, Steve, I would look to have this car. 173 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 6: Steve. 174 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: You're buying Steve, you're buying a thirty two four five 175 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: window coop and yellow? 176 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: Right? 177 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: Am I wrong talking? 178 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: Right? 179 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: Am I wrong? 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: Talking? Brother? 181 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: You are right? 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: So you want this thing? You want this thing dead 183 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: nuts on the money in plain English. And if they 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: can't find you at twenty three, why don't you find 185 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: out if you can order a twenty six? Because christ 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: Are just brought back the V eight. They just brought it. Yeah, 187 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's in the not yet. I I 188 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: don't know if it's there yet. But they just brought 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: back the what is it the Road and Track Department. 190 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: There was a big write up on it in the news. 191 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Once you go research, it is the VA. You know, 192 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: if you have to wait six months for Jeep to 193 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: catch up and do this, isn't that worth isn't that 194 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: worth waiting for? I understand it. I understand They opened 195 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: up the the order desk for Hemi Trucks and they 196 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: got over ten thousand orders in the first three days. 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: Oh. I believe it. Oh, I definitely I believe it. 198 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: So you know that Hemmy's been around a long time. 199 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: And you know what, if you. 200 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: Got a two thousand and three truck that was probably 201 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 3: your first year, you get a Henry, it's since. 202 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: Right, Stevie, I gotta run all right. 203 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ron, thank you so much. It's pleasure talking. 204 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: Enjoy your hot rod, brother, Thanks you well, thank you. 205 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: Five. 206 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Welcome. I'm running ady in the car doctor eight five 207 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'll be 208 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: back right after this. Let's go to Curtain, Tennessee. 209 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: Kurt. 210 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, what's going on? 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: Weren thanks for taking my I've got a twenty five 212 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: year old RX three hundred Lexus that's my wife's car, 213 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: only like a like one hundred and five thousand miles 214 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: on it. Yeah right, and it eats up batteries now. 215 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: I usually get the three year full time warranty from 216 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: autel Zone, even though they change their battery warranty. So 217 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: I made out all right on acause they always seem 218 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: to go. I've had some go at seven months, nine months, 219 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: a year and a half, and I had two different 220 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: mechanics do a parasitic draw test on him, and both 221 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: of them said there's no draw. But the last one 222 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: I talked to that was a mechanic he's retired now. 223 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: When we pulled the fuse box cover off in the 224 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: engine department, there's a fuse that looks like a fuse. 225 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: It's pure white, but it has it's not fifteen amps, 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: not twenty. It has no designation to it. So when 227 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: you pull that. What we found was that if you 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: pull that that white thing that they actually call in 229 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: the cover a short Okay, I guess it was tiny 230 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: Outa's way of they would pull that fuse when they 231 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: had the car on the parking lots. That way there 232 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: they could save battery. 233 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: Life or coming down the assembly line. 234 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. So the only other thing she got t boned 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: about twenty years ago on the passenger side, and nothing's 236 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: been right since. You know what I mean. Sometimes they 237 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: hear he makes noises, but the car runs like a champ. 238 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: Any idea, Now, like I said, we have a place 239 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 4: in Tennessee, we have a place in Connecticut, and we 240 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: go back to Connecticut. All my other cars in the truck. 241 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: I have a fifty five Chevy too. None of those back, 242 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: even though I disconnect the turbinos on the fifty five. 243 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: But my truck, I have a two thousand and seven 244 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: niece on frontier that always starts if we're up there 245 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: for a month or a month and half. But you 246 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 4: come back the lutches doesn't want to start, and I 247 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: have to. I have a battery charger, so I'll charge 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: it all right. 249 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: There's no you know, there's no rule, Kurt that says 250 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: a draw has to be all the time. It could 251 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: be there in a high moisture day, it could be 252 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: there on a cold day. It could be there on 253 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: a hot day, and they can be a bugger to find. 254 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: One of the things that I will use, which we 255 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: don't really talk about here. We haven't talked about it 256 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: yet today and I've had a few parasitic dream calls, 257 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: is I will use a thermal imager where the vehicle 258 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: goes to sleep. I'll prep the vehicle beforehand. And you know, 259 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: and you know, one of the things I wanted to 260 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: mention in one of my previous calls was he was 261 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: doing it where he was sitting in the car pulling 262 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: the fuses on the under the back seat, leaving the 263 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: doors closed, and it's kind of cramped. I'll trip the 264 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: door latches, I'll put the latches in the closed position, 265 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: sit in the car, or I'll put the latches in 266 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: the closed position, leave the doors open, and take covers 267 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: off the few boxes. Let the vehicle sit, Let the 268 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: vehicle go to sleep, and I'll just let it sit there. 269 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: And from time to time I'll walk around with a 270 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: thermal imager. Is anything waking up? It's anything all the 271 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: time looking at a digital voltometer, you know, looking for 272 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: a parasitic draw. 273 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: Now, now, what's a normal fifty million? 274 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: Anything anything less than fifty milliams? Fiftyis right, Let's see 275 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: if anything less than fifty milliams. 276 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess my question, Yeah, I guess My question 277 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: to you is should I just put the terminals off 278 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 4: the battery when I go back to Connecticut? 279 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you know you could try it. A two 280 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: thousand isn't so smart, You're it's you know, it's going 281 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: to learn transadaptive pretty quick. Does the vehicle sit outside 282 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: or is it in the garage? 283 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: Oh no, it's been garaged. Like I say, the last 284 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: time that you know, when I put my tester on it, 285 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: it was down to like eleven two, right, and that 286 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: was only the car was only said about two weeks. Well, 287 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: that's what I decided to have another mechanic take a 288 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: look at it. 289 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: It's gotta have it's got to have a draw. My 290 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: suspicion is it's got a draw. And one of the 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: things I would do in a situation like this is 292 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: I would set up the battery and follow what I say. 293 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: I would put a jumper wire. I would disconnect the 294 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: negative battery cable. I would put a jumper cable from 295 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: the negative battery post to the cable. I would then 296 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: connect my meter to the negative battery post to the cable. 297 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: I would wait forty five minutes an hour. All right, 298 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: turn I turn my meter on. All right. I would 299 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: disconnect the jumper, being careful not to let the meter 300 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: get disconnected at that moment. What are you going to 301 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: read on the meter? Whatever? The actual draw is right, 302 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: And the beauty part of that is you're catching it 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: under real conditions. Now, if it looks normal, and you 304 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: can let the car sit there, put the meter in 305 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: min max minimum maximum recording. It will record. And you 306 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: can do this with a fresh nine vault battery. The 307 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: worst that happens is in twenty four or thirty six 308 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: or forty eight hours, ever long it lasts, you'll kill 309 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: a three dollar battery. Who cares? 310 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: Right, That's an idea. Like I said, I tried what 311 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: you did? You know? But I didn't you know? I 312 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: didn't want to sit forty five minutes. You know, I 313 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: was just looking for the simple garage mechanic, weekend mechanic 314 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: to a draw on it. And again, since you don't 315 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: have any charts, and it's funny and if you look 316 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: up the charts for a two thousand, I bought her 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: another car. So and it's it's hard to convince the 318 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: wife that she loves this car. She don't like to 319 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: do one. 320 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know, if mama's not happy, nobody's happy. 321 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,119 Speaker 4: Broll's That's why I told her. I said, look, I'm 322 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: seventy eight years old. I don't want to lay on 323 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 4: my back wiring up bufflers on the twenty five your 324 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: old car. 325 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: Right exactly. Now, now, let me ask you this question. 326 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: Do you do you have wiring diagrams for that car? 327 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: No? All right, actually, actually it was a Repall. 328 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: Well, you know this is a case where and I 329 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: encourage everybody, if you're trying to do a parasitic draw. 330 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: So you see the fuse you pull and that gets 331 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: rid of the draw. If it happened, how do you 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: know what those circuits activate? Because one fuse can power 333 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: twelve different devices and put the circuit in fourteen different directions, 334 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: so wiring diagrams become critical. Good luck to your Kurt. 335 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Let me know what happens. I'm here. If you need more, 336 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We're back right 337 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: after this. Would you please take off that white suit. 338 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Let me sit down and keep dancing. Baby, I'm just 339 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: having so much fun. 340 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: Oh please, Now I need ible each. 341 00:17:54,920 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: That John Travolta. I'll straighten him out too. There we go. Okay, 342 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: that's it. That's it. I've had my fun all right, 343 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: back to work. Let's go to Eddie and Maine. Is 344 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: that Maine or mass You gotta be Massachusetts. You gotta 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: be from somewhere. Baby, what's going on? 346 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: I had twenty eleven Honda Pilot one hundred and forty 347 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 6: five thousand miles. Breaks pedal was very mushy. I ended 348 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 6: up replacing the Masta cylinder. Now I have a firm 349 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: pedal stops great, but if I keep constant pressure on 350 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 6: the brake pedal, it slowly goes down. 351 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 352 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: Brake pads are about fifteen hundred miles on all of them. 353 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 6: The caliper slides are free and oiled up. I bench 354 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 6: bled this Master cylinder before installation and then bled all 355 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 6: the calipers after installation. Is there a specific special way 356 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 6: of bleeding if the vehicle has abs brakes? 357 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's back up a sec since since it changed, right, 358 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: is it a different pedal than it was prior to 359 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: the Master being replaced. 360 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: Yes, much different. 361 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: It's a better pedal, much better. 362 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: Yes. 363 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: Did it sink before? 364 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 6: Yes, spot, I mean very easily. You put your foot 365 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 6: down and it would just go right to the floor. 366 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: Okay. So, and this is difficult, right, And it took 367 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: me a while to find them. But I've got I've 368 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: got a bag of brake line nuts at the shop 369 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: that I basically put steel line through it. And some 370 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: of them are plugs, but some of them took steel 371 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: and put stel lines through it. I pinched them shut 372 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: and I braised them close. And I've made Master cylinder plugs. 373 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: I've kind of got like Ron's Universal Master cylinder plug set. 374 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: So I'll take the lines out of the Master, I'll 375 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: find the plugs that fit, I'll screw them in. And 376 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: do I have does it hold you know, I'll bleed it? 377 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: Does it does it hold pressure? Does it do the 378 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: same thing? If it does the same thing, I've got 379 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: a bad new Master. What what what? What brand? What brand? Master? 380 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: Did you put on it? 381 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: I put em right from a hundred dealership. 382 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it's it's not likely, but it's possible. 383 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: And I never, I never want to overlook that new 384 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: means new means never ever worked. All Right, you got 385 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: to remember that. I find that I've I've had this 386 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: more than a few times OE after market more after 387 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: market stuff than OE. But it does happen. So let's 388 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: let's let's eliminate the Master cylinder right off the bat. 389 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: Let's just let's just go find some plugs and let's 390 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: just cap the Master bleed at Burpitt does the pedal hold? Okay, good, now, 391 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: if you want, just before you do it, I don't 392 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: like doing this, but I'll do it where I have 393 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: you ever see the vice scripts, But they have a 394 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: rounded jaw for pinching a hose. Yeah, all right, I 395 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: will pinch the rubber break hoses and does that affect 396 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: the pedal? Just on the chance I've got something weird 397 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: going on with a caliper. I don't think that's the 398 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: case with you, but I just want to mention it. 399 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: This is this is this is a plumbing issue, Eddie, 400 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: all right, this is a plumbing issue. It's it's where 401 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: do we have water where we're not supposed to, or 402 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: where do we have break fluid or we're not supposed to? 403 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Why are we losing hydraulic pressure? Here's the problem with 404 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: all modern day ABS systems, in my opinion. And you 405 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: knew I was going to go here. There's there's no 406 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: easy way. Well there is. If if the ABS control 407 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: module sets an internal fault and it says it's it's 408 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: control module is bad electronically, then you get to change it, 409 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: and it's clear cut. But when you're dealing with this, 410 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: all right, you have to eliminate. You got to tell 411 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: me what's good, so I can tell you what's bad. 412 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: You know, I if the calipers aren't leaking, and I'm 413 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 2: going to say they're not, because if you've done all 414 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: this work, you're hard enough to know what a leaking 415 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: caliber looks like. 416 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 6: Right. 417 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: If the calibers aren't leaking, if the lines aren't leaking, 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: if the master cylinder tests good, if you cap the 419 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: master and it tests good, where's the problem. And you're 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: smart enough you know this. You're just afraid to admit 421 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: it because you know the price tag, right, it's the 422 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: ABS controller. There's nothing left. Yes, to answer your question directly, 423 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: some modern day ABS systems and I don't remember if 424 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: an eleven pilot does. And I would just look it 425 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: up in a scan tool, all right, if it's in there, 426 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: because a lot of times even service information doesn't necessarily 427 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: tell us. But I would look it up in one 428 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 2: or two scan tools. How many times do I have 429 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: to go through this? But yeah, there could be a 430 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: specific bleed procedure. But the fact that you have a 431 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: decent pedal and then it starts to, you know, fade 432 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: out right, it sounds like it doesn't sound like an 433 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: air issue. If you pump it doesn't come right back, yes, 434 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: And does it hold? 435 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: No, it will hold. But if I keep constant pressure, 436 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 6: it slowly goes down. 437 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: Right. 438 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's got an internal leak, like the 439 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: like the ABS controller is. Bypassing now sometimes if I 440 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: find the system does have an ABS module bleed, by 441 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 2: doing that, I work all the hydraulic valves. And if 442 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: something was sticky, stuck, restricted, blocked, jammed, open, et cetera, 443 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: I will unstick it. It doesn't work a lot of 444 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: the time. But I feel better when I have to 445 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: spend three grand on an ABS controller because I know 446 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: I tried everything, so you can go that routine. How dirty, 447 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: How dirty was the fluid? 448 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 6: It was fairly dirty, not not real brown, but it 449 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 6: was on the on the. 450 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 2: Spikedra yeah, yeah, yeah, that's and that's the other problem. 451 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: We don't we don't flush break fluid enough in this country. 452 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: I see a lot of first time customers coming in 453 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: the masters. So there's it's it's it's not even yellow, 454 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: it's it's it's brown for all intentsive purposes. And then 455 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: it gets to that dark black brown color and you know, 456 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: it's just it's just so moisture contaminated somewhere along the way. 457 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: And it's going to be a chapter in the book 458 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: where I talk about a BS that that I just 459 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: it just became so critical to do break fluid flushes 460 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: that and the industry says, well, you know, moisture gets 461 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: in the system and break fluid is hygroscopic, and it's 462 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: it's it's not as strong a hydraulic action because it's weakened. 463 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: I understand that, but then they started blaming moisture on 464 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: you know, causing internal corrosion of components, and everything had 465 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: to be made out of stainless steel and blah blah 466 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And yet we still have these issues 467 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: where even with the cars that are flushed, I will 468 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: say that sometimes they end up with ABS controller problems. 469 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: But the ones that aren't, boy, I'll tell you what it's. 470 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: It's there more susceptible to the ABS module failure. I 471 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: will tell you this. You did all the right steps 472 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: from my seat here from everything you're telling me. No, listen, 473 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: you played it just the way you're supposed to. I 474 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: go through this in the shop if it was you 475 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: and me at absaying, Eddie, your car needs a master cylinder. Well, Eddie, 476 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: I think it needs a master. But here's why I 477 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: want to do a master first, and then I'm going 478 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: to tell you the expensive ABS controller. Because I can't 479 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: put an ABS controller on on a vehicle that's a 480 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: twenty eleven with one hundred and fifty thousand miles on 481 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: it with dirty break fluid and reuse the old master. 482 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. 483 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't, all right, It's. 484 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: Like replacing somebody's heart, not doing a transfusion, or not 485 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: putting clean blood in or not putting you know, it's 486 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: like using old engine oil inside of a brand new 487 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: engine or rebuilt engine. It just doesn't make any sense. 488 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: You're putting all the dirt and contaminant back into the system, 489 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: back into the component you just replaced. So you're doing 490 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: the process right now. As a tip, I don't know 491 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: if you have one of these, but you may find 492 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: if you like to work on your own vehicle. Do 493 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: you have a local Advanced Auto Parts? 494 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I do. 495 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: Get down to your local Advance Auto or you can 496 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: probably find it online at Advanced Auto Parts's website and 497 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: see if they because I got mine from my Advance 498 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: and I just got a replacement set. They're like a 499 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: set of hydraulic syringes, but you it's a break bleeder set, 500 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: so it's a it looks like it looks like a 501 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 2: super big it's probably an echine diameter over exaggerated doctor's syringe, 502 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: like an old needle, an old you know, for a shot. 503 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: But on the end it's not a needle. It's got 504 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: a rubber hose and you would fill it up, fill 505 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: it up with break fluid, push it up until you 506 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: get break fluid out. Put that on the bleeder and 507 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: you can reverse bleed and push any air up into 508 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: the master and let it burp out through the top 509 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: of the master. 510 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 5: Oh okay, that's it. 511 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: That's a real old tool. It's been around forever. I've 512 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: seen them. I just got mine from Advanced two weeks ago, 513 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, so I know that. I 514 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: know they're still out there. They're somewhere in their tool catalog. 515 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: You'll probably find it online. It's just it's just a 516 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: break bleeder syringe kit, I believe they call it. 517 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 6: I'll try that out, thank you. 518 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: All right, So if there's any air trapped in there, 519 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: you'll reverse bleed it back up and hour. But chances 520 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: are you're headed towards an ABS controller, not to ruin 521 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: your day. 522 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 6: Okay, at that, I'm going to hang up now. 523 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: All right. 524 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Eddie, So go have some ice cream. You'll 525 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: feel better today. 526 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 6: All right, thank you so much for taking my call. 527 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: You're very welcome anytime, Pal, you'd be well. Hey five 528 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I am 529 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: ronning Ay and the car doctor. I'll be back right 530 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: after this. And we're rolling along this hour and I 531 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: just figured out why it looks like Tom's not paying 532 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: attention because his video froze. So Tom, if you can 533 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: hear me, you're frozen in time, brother, But I'm still 534 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: communicating with you. You really want to look at me? 535 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: Huh? 536 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: Well, you know it's either that I've got a picture. 537 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: All I see in front of me is you looking 538 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: down like you're ready to jump off a bridge. So well, 539 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: you know I'm listening to you. I mean, what do 540 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: you think I want to do? There you go? 541 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 4: Nah? 542 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 2: There you are? Okay? You think you can manage to 543 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: find the button and put Brian from Philadelphia on. 544 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: I can do that. 545 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 2: I can also take you off and watch America would 546 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: be upset, Brian Philadelphia. How are you today, my brother Ron? 547 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: How are you good? 548 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: Sir? 549 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: What's going on? 550 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: I have a question. 551 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 5: I'm using my father's car along with mine twenty twenty 552 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 5: three Hyundai Lantra. No problem with the car running, but 553 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 5: since he's been injured, you know, he's put not that 554 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 5: many miles on and this car takes synthetic oil. So 555 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: the thing is, I'm under the miles, but I'm worried 556 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 5: about the time because you know, I don't I wouldn't 557 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: want the oil to sit too long because it probably 558 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: loses its lubrication properties. So if I'm under miles, would 559 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 5: you help? What would you recommend? I change it as 560 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: far as a time interval, because I'm not going to 561 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: hit the miles. 562 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: Did I ever tell you the story about the engine 563 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: in the hot rod where you know it was? It 564 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: was a it was a it was a blank check thing. 565 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: I told it. I told the engine builder at the time, 566 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: Ron Ross, simonek performance. We haven't talked to Ron in 567 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: a while. I said, I want such and such horsepower 568 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: on the street. I want a single four barrel. I 569 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: just wanted to be reliable. I wanted to work blank check, 570 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: just fill in the number and just you know, build 571 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: me an engine. So, needless to say, it was a 572 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: fairly expensive investment, right, that car goes in the fourteen 573 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: years since I did that car, Because it's fourteen years now, 574 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: that car has gone six thousand miles. Think about that. Yeah, 575 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: it's pretty low mileage, right. And you know, just the 576 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: other day I changed the oil and it came out 577 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: looking pretty clean. But just for giggles, I pulled one 578 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: of the valve covers off because I wanted to look 579 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: at something and I was amazed at how much moisture 580 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: was in the top of that valve cover, condensation from 581 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: lack of use. And it made me understand. And this 582 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: is the second or third time I've run across this 583 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: with that engine and others, but it made me really 584 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: understand the concept of condensation and moisture and how moisture 585 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: causes oil to break down. So in the case of 586 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: the hot rod, it's a no brainer, right, what's cheaper 587 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: an oil change or an engine? So I come back 588 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: to your father's hun day. What's cheaper an oil change 589 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: or an engine? 590 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: Oh? 591 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 592 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: And I look at time, right, I stop and think 593 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: about time. I'm still I'm a very seat of the 594 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: pants mechanic when it comes to this, Brian, And you 595 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: know what, they could put numbers down in front of me, 596 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: but I've just seen too many things that convince me 597 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: that I'm right. Five to six months, five to six 598 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: thousand miles, good synthetic oil change, looking for the problem, 599 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: looking for the things that occur, putting proper tire inflation 600 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: in a correct oil change. In this mechanic's opinion on 601 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: the average vehicle is roughly thirty minutes. Some vehicles as 602 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: long as forty five minutes up to an hour, depending 603 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: upon what it is, if you're doing the job right 604 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: and looking at some of the things you're supposed to 605 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: be looking at. And it's it's just that simple. And 606 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. It's proven because the ones that 607 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: change the oil seems to be the ones that go 608 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: the longest. And that's just that's just the bottom line. 609 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: So if it's been five or six months since Dad's 610 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: oil has changed, change it. 611 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: He's done everything else, all the other maintenance is up 612 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: to date. You know, it's not the money, I mean, 613 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 5: the money for an oil change willingly spendin maintenance costs 614 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 5: and having a major. 615 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: You're you're you're you're not You're not gonna hurt anything. 616 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: And at the very least, okay, at the very least, 617 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: with the way tire pressure changes based on seasonal adjustment, 618 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: hot cold, hot cold and so on, just having correct 619 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: tire pressure is a blessing. 620 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: Well. 621 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 5: I monitor that all the time on my car, and sure, 622 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: because it has the tire pressure or you know, it 623 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 5: gives me all that. I keep it all up, especially 624 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 5: in the cold. 625 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 6: It loves this, you know. 626 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: But you'll do that, you're a car guy. For everybody 627 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: else that's listening. Let them know that that's one of 628 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: the advantages of doing an oil change on a timely basis. 629 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: They called me a pilot because I write everything down 630 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 5: in a log I have a log so I do 631 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: so somebody will say, oh, my battery win, I said, 632 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 5: how many years? Because I don't know. How would I know? 633 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: I said, you write things down like a log. 634 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: Yep, and I would expect you to do that. Brian, 635 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: sorry to cut your short, kid. Ooh, I gotta go. 636 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, and I hope your dad's feeling 637 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: better soon. Enjoy the car. I'm running any in the 638 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: car doctor. I am back right after this. Hey, I 639 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: want to wind it down with an email from George. 640 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 2: George writes, and hey, Ron, should one change fluid's anti 641 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: freeze for example? If so, how often? And this is 642 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: an older email, so I apologize. I'm just getting to 643 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: a George. You know, anti freeze is, yes, still a 644 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: regularly serviced fluid, all right. And one of the choices 645 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: you get to make when you're picking an anti freeze 646 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: is do you mix it on your own or do 647 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: you buy pre mixed? And that's what I want. This 648 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: conversation to be about. I strongly recommend you consider pre mix, 649 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why. Go look up fluid requirement, 650 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: for example, a twenty two Chevy Silverado. Look it up 651 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: and in the service information. I looked it up the 652 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: other day in all data, and it tells me that 653 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: the coolant has to be fifty to fifty decks cool 654 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: and tapwater. GM says tapwater out of the faucet is acceptable. 655 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: Now go look it up for a twenty fifteen Jeep. 656 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I just ran across this the other day. Chrysler calls 657 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: for fifty to fifty. They all call for fifty to 658 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: fifty mix half and half, but Chrysler wants fifty percent 659 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: ethylene GLI call and fifty percent distilled water. Where are 660 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: you gonna get the stilled water from the supermarket? Commission 661 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 2: sure every repair shops running down to the local supermarket 662 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: to buy distilled water before they fill the cars with 663 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: cooling systems. It's impossible. That's why if you buy a 664 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: pre mix like what you'll see from Peak Coolant, get 665 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: out to OWI dot com and start reading about Peak. 666 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: You'll see that they've got pre mixed, the correct water, 667 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: the correct coolant, I'm Ronning Ay and the car doctor. 668 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 4: Come. 669 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you