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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's d J n V.

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Speaker 2: Just Hilarius Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: We got a special guest.

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Speaker 1: In the building, the icon living Dawn Stanley. Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: How you feel? Thank you, thank you. Thank y'all usually

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Speaker 3: come back and I'm invited when we win the championship.

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Speaker 3: We lost this year, So thank y'all for.

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Speaker 1: Talking about you.

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Speaker 2: Start that you're always invited. Uncommon favorite is out right now.

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Speaker 2: Basketball in North Philly, my mother and the life lessons

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Speaker 2: I learned from all three is out right now.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling great, Like I mean, my my friends have

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Speaker 3: received their books and they have nothing but like great

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Speaker 3: things like I am my cup running over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta give you a shout out. And

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Speaker 3: you you sparked the conversation. So many people have asked

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Speaker 3: me to write a book, and I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like yeah right, but it came from so many different people.

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Speaker 3: And then when I came on the show in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, we talked about it, and you just you

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Speaker 3: kept the conversation going. You're real persistent with it, and

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Speaker 3: you know that's that's what I'm attracted to most. It's

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Speaker 3: like somebody that actually is it persistent yet persistent and

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Speaker 3: know the process, Like you knew the process. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you knew my story, so to speak, but

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Speaker 3: you knew enough to know that you know this, this

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Speaker 3: book will be received well. And I appreciate that well.

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Speaker 4: People like you don't come around too often. Don Like

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Speaker 4: you're a once in a generational just person, you know,

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Speaker 4: and you really learn that when you read the book,

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Speaker 4: not even just as a coach, but as a basketball player,

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Speaker 4: but more so as a child of Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Man, I mean, it's it's I mean I had fun,

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Speaker 3: Like the process was fun. It's liberating. It is you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't really know how you're going to be received,

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Speaker 3: but every person, like I'm actually waiting for a critic

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Speaker 3: liked what didn't go right in the book, and then

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Speaker 3: we have yet to get to that point. And I

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Speaker 3: just my one of my friends was, you know, listening,

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Speaker 3: had a long road trip, listened to the entire book

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Speaker 3: I get it, Like the leadership part of it, Like

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Speaker 3: I mean, the emotions that are in the book, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's me. So some of it is emotional me.

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Speaker 3: had to call on my my siblings and kind of

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Speaker 3: it's so me, it's so relatable, it's so just. It

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Speaker 3: therapeutic at all to do it. No, it was just natural.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like it was natural. And I think sharing

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Speaker 3: my story is just relatable to people. It's not like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think it's a you know, like

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Speaker 3: in we don't overdo it with the accolades. It's like

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Speaker 3: the accolades are intertwined and everybody's accolades won't be like

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Speaker 3: Olympian and actual champions, but on on a certain level,

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Speaker 3: like if you if you graduate high school, it's relatable,

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Speaker 3: it's it's relatable. And and there's no there's no wrong path,

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Speaker 3: like there's no like you can get off tilted, but

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Speaker 3: then you got to come back by like habits come

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Speaker 3: back by. You know. The the lessons in the book

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Speaker 3: you would want to accomplish in life. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: just saying that the pump the book, but it really

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Speaker 3: is like I'm only giving what other people are giving me,

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Speaker 4: The beautiful thing about Uncommon Favor is you get to

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Speaker 4: tell your own story. So when you're when you're writing

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Speaker 4: the book, what part of your story that you want

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Speaker 3: Well. One is when I when I when I speak

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Speaker 3: on things that are controversial, you know, racial things, like

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Speaker 3: it's it's personal to me. Now you could be a

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Speaker 3: of who I him. It's allowed me to grow and

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Speaker 3: things that happened to everybody you know sitting around this table,

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Speaker 3: and everybody that will we'll read it or not read it.

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen to you no matter what. So

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Speaker 3: I think you know some of the stuff. You know,

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Speaker 3: why does she do that? Like or equal pay? You know,

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Speaker 3: why why would you you already make it a lot

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Speaker 3: because I know my worth, like like it's not it's

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Speaker 2: it starts from where you came from, which is North Philly, right,

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Speaker 3: It just imagine the people that that don't grow up

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Speaker 2: I can imagine, because you know, being a player, I'm

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Speaker 3: You can. You gotta office exactly. So if you're not

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Speaker 3: people call them rules. People think I'm very strict and disciplined.

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Speaker 3: Not I am. I am, but all of our rules

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Speaker 3: and sacrifice. I mean I sacrifice proms, I sacrifice all

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Speaker 4: I love how you embrace your in a child That's

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a there's a story that I that

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Speaker 3: I mean it helps me, it drives me like it

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Speaker 1: I don't have a critic yet.

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the book right now, right, So it's

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Speaker 3: to me, critics, It's uncommon. Like, but I know, I

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Speaker 3: know our loss this year will somehow help us. It will.

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, I'm not just I'm not just

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Speaker 1: I love them.

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Speaker 4: You said that in a post game conference. You was like,

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Speaker 4: I hope that they're crying. I hope that my players

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the most growth takes place when you're uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: And how do you block out the noise? Or do

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Speaker 3: Like there's nothing that any one of my current former

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Speaker 3: someone has ever done in their household, and for that

431
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 3: to happen, their their generations will change from that. So

432
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: it's just the impact of that.

433
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting record. I was watching you yesterday.

434
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: You did Good Morning in America to view Kobe all

435
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: of that stuff like that. So you was working, but

436
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: I still know you're still the coach at the University

437
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 4: of South Carolina. But I was like, oh, you know what,

438
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 4: she'll be fine because she used to play ball and

439
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 4: coach at the same time, which I found out about

440
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 4: in the book.

441
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: That was insane six years. That's crazy six years. I

442
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 3: mean when I when I got into coaching, I was

443
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: like in my prime, so you know the ad at

444
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: the time. He kept asking me like he was persistent,

445
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: like I'm like, no, no, I'm not interested. I'm playing

446
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: in a WNBA and this is and then he just

447
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 3: kept asking. And then then I ended up having to

448
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: go meet with him because the final four was in Philly.

449
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm from Philly. He knew I was going to be there.

450
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: So I went and sat down with him and he

451
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 3: asked me two questions. He was like, can you lead?

452
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 3: Did you do your research? Like did you like And

453
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, I basically was the captain on

454
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: every team that I played on, right, And then he

455
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: was like, can you turn Temple women's basketball program around?

456
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, is that a challenge? Like

457
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: is that really a challenge? Because I'm drawing the challenges

458
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: and I and I never looked at it that way,

459
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 3: and I never answered the question. I don't even think

460
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 3: I answered the question. He was like, hey, can you

461
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: just come down the hall and meet some people. So

462
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm here, and he took me

463
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 3: in this conference room, sat me at the head of

464
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: the table and they were like ten to twelve people

465
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: sitting around this table, and they're asking me questions like

466
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: what do you see yourself in five years? I'm like

467
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: playing in the WNBA. And they were like, do you

468
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: haven't seen yourself coaching? And I'm like no, Like y'all

469
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: they were interviewing me. I was on a job interview

470
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: and I didn't know it because all my job interviews

471
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: were tryouts like basketball like physical tryouts. And needless to say,

472
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: I took the job two weeks later and they just

473
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: agreed to allow me to continue to play and coach.

474
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: So I was in like basketball utopia because I was

475
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: coaching and I'm actually still able to express myself on

476
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 3: the court because I wasn't ready to hang up my shoes.

477
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: I was still very much a player, and I think

478
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: that allowed me to play a little bit longer than

479
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to. And that allowed me to keep staying

480
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: fresh with what was up with teaching young people because

481
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: they were more enthralled with me playing because that's what

482
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: they wanted, Like I was living their dream right before

483
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: their very eyes. And I think it just helped me

484
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: be a better coach, be a more understanding coach because

485
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: I was a player receiving information from a coach, and

486
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: then I just helped the dynamics of what I was doing.

487
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: And I guess we learned how to get you to

488
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: do things, be persistent, a challenge, right.

489
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: Like as I think about it all and this is

490
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: not in the book, but everybody that I have in

491
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: my you know, you know, in my circle, Like I

492
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 3: got a financial guy, he pressed me for one for

493
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: a whole year when I was at South Carolina. He

494
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: would come and just visit, just check in, and then

495
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: you know, finally I gave all my money to him,

496
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 3: like seventeen years where he's still with me. And it's

497
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: it's the coolest thing to have someone just because you know,

498
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: like pour in like I mean, you pour it into

499
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: me with this book, like you you understood it. Like

500
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: I didn't want to write a book, like I don't.

501
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I didn't want to write

502
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: a book. But then when when we won last year

503
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: in an undefeated way, like I'm like, this is this

504
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: is my my cup running through this is uncommon favor.

505
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: And we we tried to we tried to come up

506
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: with different titles for the book, and it always came

507
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: back to this because this really explains my entire life,

508
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: Like if I had to describe my my, my life,

509
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: my career, my it is uncommon favor. Like to the

510
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: m degree.

511
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever question whether you were too hard or

512
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: not hard enough on a play?

513
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah there was.

514
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: There was.

515
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: I mean it's all teaching moments where I I wanted

516
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: a freshman to beat out a senior. When I kind

517
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: of first my first couple of years at South Carolina,

518
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: we you know, we recruited this young lady because I

519
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: thought she would be the best. I was like, this

520
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: is the one I want, so all of our coaching

521
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: staff we zeroed in on her. She committed, she came,

522
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: and then I was I was really hard on her,

523
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: like like you gotta do. I tried to pour everything

524
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: in because I wanted her to beat the senior out.

525
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: I couldn't just give her I couldn't just give her.

526
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: I just I'm not in it. You gotta earn it

527
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: because you gotta you gotta protect your locker room because

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: if you're just giving out something and you lose trust.

529
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: So I wanted so I poured into her. I was

530
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: hard on her, and she cried at different times of

531
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: the season, and then I would talk to her like

532
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I thought everything was good. You know, we were working

533
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: towards it. Sometimes they cried. Sometimes you know, they can

534
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: they can take it. And then at the end of

535
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: the season, like I always do, I meet, I have

536
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: our postseason meeting, and she says something I just didn't

537
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: It didn't dawn on me during the year, like she

538
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: was like, I wasn't ready. And I never thought she

539
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: wasn't ready. If she would have said that to me

540
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: like during it during the season, I would have I

541
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: would have backed off. But she was just like I

542
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: wasn't ready, and I'm like, I'm sorry. So I do

543
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: think that it strained our relationship. I think she understands

544
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: it now because she's a coach now, so she kind

545
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: of understands it. But I had to change how I

546
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 3: operated in that space because and I ask our players

547
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: to talk to me more like I could be I

548
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: could be a better coach when you talk to me.

549
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: If not, I'm assuming that everything I'm saying you're good with.

550
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: So now it's like, how you feel about this, how

551
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 3: you want to play this, how you want to do this?

552
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: What do y'all think? I'm more of a listener and

553
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: I involved and more inclusive with game planning, more inclusive

554
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: with how we handle problems that come up on the team,

555
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: between teammates, all of that. I'm just like, we talk

556
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: it out. Like we talk it out. I expect like

557
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: it's not a rhetorical question, it is an inclusive question. Hey,

558
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: let's talk about this, because I find that if you

559
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: don't address it, it grows, and then you're halfway through

560
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: the season and like y'all still on that when a

561
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: two minute conversation could resolve it all.

562
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask about your father, right. You mentioned

563
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: your father earlier in an interview and you said your

564
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: relationship wasn't that great, but you said it got better

565
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: over the years. Do you understand some of the things

566
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: that your father was trying to implementing you as a

567
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: young girl, because they said that your father looked at

568
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: women's basketball and felt that wasn't too many opportunities and

569
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: didn't know if you could sustain at that time. And

570
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: do you wish that you kind of put yourself in

571
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: his mentality back then as a child, because even with

572
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: the name of the book, it says basketball in North

573
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: Philly my mother, but not father.

574
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think even the one like

575
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: family members that are that are closest to you, Yes,

576
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: I thought, I, Yes, I should have had a much

577
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: more mature outlook on that relationship now that you can

578
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: reflect on it, now that you can see because I

579
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: held that, and I you know, if you can hear that,

580
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: I still hold that instance. But when you when you're

581
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: coaching right and you come up, you know, with you

582
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: come into a situation where you hurt a player like

583
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: you heard that player that was like probably twelve years ago.

584
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: I heard that player, like it drives me to not

585
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: hurt other players, right, And I wasn't mature enough or

586
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: savvy enough to handle that at twelve or thirteen. So

587
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: I do think it's helped me be a better coach.

588
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: It helps me be a better person to really like, again,

589
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: I didn't talk about things I held that my father

590
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: probably didn't, probably doesn't. He's been he's been dead and

591
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: gone since two thousand and one. Like I don't even

592
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: think he really knew how much that hurt me, but

593
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: also use that to navigate the nose, like I handle

594
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: those a lot better because of that. Because of that,

595
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't like my mom. I was the baby girl,

596
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: the baby girl, so the baby girl holds a special place,

597
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: and you know, with your mother. My father was a

598
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: tremendously like not high education like he didn't he but

599
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: he was worldly like he knew he was a carpenter,

600
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: he was a mechanic, he knew everything worldly from when

601
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: I was younger until adulthood. And he really had a

602
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: stronger relationship with my other siblings because they were older

603
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: too that they could have a conversation with him about anything.

604
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: And I still used to sit back, even as an adult,

605
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: sit back and kind of listen to them have these

606
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: conversations about prime ministers and presidency and politics. Like I

607
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: wish he was alive today to hear his perspective on

608
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: what's happening in our world today, because he was super

609
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: up with everything.

610
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: I love to respect the power of habits chapter and

611
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 4: in that chapter, you speak extremely highly of South Carolina's

612
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: own Malaysia for a while, and you even refer to

613
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 4: her as a younger, savvier version of you. You say,

614
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: and this is a quote I heard from so many

615
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: adults who gave their own parents hell, only to see

616
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: that teenagers return to favor. Now it's my turn in

617
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: the battle. So when I see you had When I

618
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: read that, and I was like, she had so much

619
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: love from Malaysia. What was your initial reaction when she

620
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: decided to enter the portal?

621
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: And was it surprising you?

622
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: So surprising? No, I think, you know, being in this space,

623
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: you you you, you become, you know, to expect the unexpected, right.

624
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: I still have much love for Malisia, like much love.

625
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: Like I want her happy. She came in, said she

626
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: and a mom came in. She said, I think I'm

627
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: going to get into the transfer portals. I'm like, okay,

628
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: well you think or you know? And she said I know,

629
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: And I said, well, I said, I only want you happy,

630
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: like I really do. Only want our players happy, whether

631
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: that's that's with us or somewhere else. Just be happy.

632
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: And I told her, don't look back. I know it's

633
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: probably gonna be hard to not look back to see

634
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: you know, you leaving your hometown and all that I said,

635
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: don't look back like you know you made this decision.

636
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Just go forward with it and don't look back. Uh,

637
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: you're always gonna be a game cock. You're always gonna

638
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: be welcomed here. I wish her the best. And when

639
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: I say that, people probably think, oh, but I do,

640
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: like I really do, like, cause I am what's for

641
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: us is for us. What's not it was not let's

642
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: keep moving. I don't stay in I don't stay in despair.

643
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: I don't stay in those spaces for very long. I'm like, Okay,

644
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta get we gotta get recruiting. We

645
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: gotta get back into this portal to see who we

646
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: can get, you know, to to help us. I think

647
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: she's gonna have a promising career. I do think she's

648
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: a generational talent that will never leave.

649
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Like.

650
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 3: She does things on the basketball court that I've never

651
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: seen a woman do, and she's she'll continue to do

652
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: that and will continue to be happy for her except

653
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: the one or two times that we have to play

654
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: them like it's on, like it's this. She's gonna be

655
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: super competitive against us. We're gonna we're gonna want to win,

656
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be a pride thing that comes with

657
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: just being, you know, a competitor. And we got much

658
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 3: love for her in the family.

659
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 4: What do you feel like the transfer portal era forces

660
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: coaches to.

661
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: Evolve faster when it comes to like player relationship.

662
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, well for me, I need that, like I need

663
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: to have a relationship with you. I need I need that,

664
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: Like I'm not good and you know, one off, so

665
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm not good at at you know, transactional relationships, like

666
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: I'm not good. You know, I don't want to turn

667
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: my heart off, you know, like my heart is the

668
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: is the thing that leads me, and I need that

669
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: type of connection and I'm never gonna I'm never gonna

670
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: go there. With the transfer portal transactional mindset, it's it's

671
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: helped and it's hurt. Like I do think that, I

672
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: do think that something needs to happen regarding how many

673
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 3: times you can transfer, like how many? Like how many

674
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: is how many? Like one I think is great, Like

675
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: you pick the wrong school, you find the right school

676
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: transfer now. I think when you're able to transfer two three,

677
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: you can be at four different schools in four years

678
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 3: and does it create more opportunity for them to be wealthier. Yes,

679
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: it does. And I think us women are trying to

680
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: get all of that back because I think our game

681
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: has been held down for so long that now that

682
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: this space is open to us and we're thriving in it,

683
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: We're thriving in the name, image and likeness space. We're thriving.

684
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: But I don't want people to lose sight of what

685
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: team is.

686
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Like.

687
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: My whole life is built around team. My personal life.

688
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: I got a team of people, team of friends that come,

689
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: hell of how water, We're gonna stick together. Whether we

690
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: agree or disagree, we're gonna do it agreeably. And I

691
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: just I want that for our game. I don't want

692
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't want our game to lose that part of

693
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: it because it's the very thing that's been attracting and

694
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: magnetic to the fans.

695
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Now this this has nothing to do with the boat,

696
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: but I wanted to ask this were talking about players.

697
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: You know, the WNBA has has taken a huge jump

698
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, and I love it.

699
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: My daughters love it, my sons love it. What do

700
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: you think what's going on in the WNBA with it.

701
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: It seems like they're pitting, you know, Caitlin Clark against

702
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: Angel Reese, right, kind of what they did in the

703
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: NBA back in the day. But it was more teams, right,

704
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: I guess not maybe not teams. It was Magic Bird,

705
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: this one is that one, but this one, it just

706
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: seems like it seems very personable. So what are your thoughts,

707
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: Like even the other day with that foul and they

708
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: called it a flagrant foul. I don't necessarily agree, but

709
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on it?

710
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: You don't think it was a flagrant foul.

711
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: I think it was just a foul.

712
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: From what I've seen, me playing basketball and me watching basketball,

713
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: I think if it would have been anybody else, it

714
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: might have just been a foul.

715
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't don't know if it's a flair. So just

716
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: asking your thought.

717
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Well, I think the officiating has a has a hard job.

718
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: That's one the decipher whether or not that's a flavored

719
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: one or not. Hard job, hard job, And I do

720
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: think they understand the dynamics of Angel and Caitlin. I do.

721
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: I think it's great for our game because it's like, yeah,

722
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: like it's a sport. Treat us like a sport. Don't

723
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: treat us anything other than being a sport. It happens

724
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: in every sport, Soccer, basketball, football, it happens in every sport.

725
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: So let it be. I'm gonna I'm gonna take the

726
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: lead of Angel and Caitlin. And that lead is they

727
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: said it was a it was a file. The officials

728
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: got it right. We're moving on. That's what I'm saying.

729
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take their lead. Okay, I think it's I

730
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: think it's it. It pulls people in, people in. I

731
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: do think there are new fans that haven't watched our

732
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: game and they really don't know, so they only they're

733
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: only singlely focused on Kate, right, right, So when you're

734
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: that and that's that's that's that's their idol, that's who

735
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: attracts them. But I just hope that they'll open their

736
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 3: eyes to the rest of the talent that that is there.

737
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: Like the product. The product is incredible, like and it's

738
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: in high demand. We played Caitlin in the National Championship

739
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: last year, right, twenty twenty million A topped off at

740
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: whatever it topped off at, the most, right, I know,

741
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: I know they saw us like, I know they saw us.

742
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: I know they saw US have an undefeated season. I

743
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: know they saw Camilla Cardozo. I know they saw Ashland Wakas.

744
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: I know they saw Tessa Johnson have an incredible care

745
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: career or day. I know they saw my Lasier do

746
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: some incredible things like so, so open your eyes up

747
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 3: to seeing you know, outside of Caitlin, well not even

748
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: outside included because she's a part of a part of

749
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 3: it all. So you know, I'm looking for forward to

750
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: the next time they play, too. I'm gonna be gluten

751
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: just like everybody else.

752
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: Yes, the wrong call in that scenario and getting called

753
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: for a text.

754
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: Exactly, she didn't even know until after the game. But

755
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: do you feel like she's tight with her Money's like

756
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: she she wants somebody to pay her fine.

757
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: You feel like they let the players play because I

758
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: know it's not just w n b A but NBA too.

759
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: It just seems like they're taking too much control and

760
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: not letting the players play.

761
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: Again. Officiating hard, hard because you want them to just play,

762
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: But you also know that they can escalate. And and

763
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: we know when things escalate, whether it's basketball or whether

764
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: it's policing, we know when they escalate. We gotta we

765
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 3: got to learn how to de escalate and then allowed

766
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: to play to do what they do. The game, The

767
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: game itself is going to lend itself to whatever, whether

768
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: it's really physical, whether it's you know, free flowing, it's

769
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna lend itself to whatever it is. I

770
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: just think that officiating is a tough, tough job, not

771
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: even not even that. Like coaches are like on your

772
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: on your butt all the time, like I'm include in me,

773
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: like like it's it's it's it's they get I mean,

774
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 3: they get paid a whole lot of money too to

775
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: take that. But they're they're the they're the best in

776
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: our game. Like they're the best. If there were better

777
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 3: people to officiate the games, they would already be in

778
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: the game.

779
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: Last question about that's the replay feature?

780
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Like it? I hate it?

781
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it because officials make mistakes, right,

782
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: I mean, it allows you, it allows them to be

783
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: directed because because they're they're wrong. Like I would say this,

784
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: we we have officiating conversations every year when we go

785
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: to our spring meetings. Then it's it's if they have

786
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: a like a ninety correct call rate, that's excellent.

787
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

788
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Well what about the ten percent exactly what about the

789
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 3: ten percent? Like what what's done to them for being

790
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: for calling something incorrectly ten percent of the time? That

791
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: has implications up for us n C double a seating,

792
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: right like for you know, for the NBA. You know,

793
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 3: like like every game matters, right, So I mean, you're

794
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: they're never going to get that part right. But it's

795
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: part of the game. Is it's part of of the

796
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: dynamics of the game. That again is conversation, and it's

797
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: we should have conversation. Like I don't think the officials

798
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: want us to have conversation about this, but you're a

799
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: part of it. You know, you don't get you know,

800
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna get criticized for losing, you should get

801
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: criticized but not making a correct call.

802
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: I got a few more questions.

803
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: I want to go back to that that that chapter

804
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: respect the power of habits right.

805
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Because when you talk about Malaysia, it is with such reference.

806
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: How do you balance disappointment as a coach, which support

807
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 4: for somebody like her who just wanted to make a

808
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 4: decision for.

809
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: Usself, Like like if if a young person is going

810
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: to speak on what what what they deem is good

811
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: for them. Uh, that's that's half the battle, Like half

812
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: the battle is to be able to speak up. And

813
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: you know how hard it was for her to do that,

814
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: like really hard, really hard. So I understand that dynamics

815
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: of her decision making. And then it's like, okay, well

816
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: what do you do with it? Like if she was

817
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: my player and you know, there was there was a

818
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: chance for her to want to come back, or if

819
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: she decided that this is that that's not what she

820
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: wanted to do. I was going to talk to her

821
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: about why, why did it, why did it come to that?

822
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: What makes you think this isn't a place for you?

823
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: What?

824
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: And for whatever? She said, we would we would go

825
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 3: from there. I thought Malaysia, Malaysia was was getting better,

826
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: Like I really I saw a whole lot of growth

827
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: on and off the court to where like unless she

828
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: was gonna get the best of her now, like we

829
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: went through the you know, we went through the hard

830
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: part of just kind of smoothing some rough edges and

831
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: getting her to create good habits, like like I do

832
00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: think habits are the thing that that allows you to elevate, right,

833
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: I do, you know? So I think I think what

834
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: we've given her and what she's given us will will

835
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: allow her to to have much better days, much more

836
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: consistent days than she had with us at her next stop.

837
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: Did she know you felt that way about her? She's

838
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: gonna read the book and be like, damn.

839
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 3: You know. And I want to clarify the book was

840
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: written already before she made a decision. The book was written,

841
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, months ago. I'm sure I share my feelings

842
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't have I don't. I don't

843
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: hide anything. I wear my heart on my shoulder. I

844
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: do think my Lasier really knows how I felt about her.

845
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: I know her mother knows. I know, you know, regardless

846
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: of why she came to that conclusion of of wanting

847
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 3: to leave, I know she she knows she felt our love. Now,

848
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: you know, the playing time, the whatever, the you know,

849
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: for us, maybe taking her out of the game when

850
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 3: she felt like she wanted to just kind of keep

851
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: playing through some things. Now she probably questions that part

852
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 3: of it, And I'm okay with that. A lot of

853
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: a lot of players leave because of playing time. A

854
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: lot of people leave. It's not for it's not for

855
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: all the other stuff, because we treat them like royalty,

856
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: like royalty, Like, we're probably enablers when it comes to

857
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: the treatment that we give our players.

858
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: So I'm sure she would have started this year her junior.

859
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: Right, I mean who else was gonna hold her down?

860
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: Like so yeah, I mean it wasn't. I don't think

861
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Speaker 3: it was. I don't think it came down to starting.

862
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: I really don't. I think it came down to her

863
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Speaker 3: wanting to play free and do you know what what

864
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Speaker 3: she wanted to do in and who's to say she

865
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Speaker 3: wouldn't have been able to do that, you know, in

866
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Speaker 3: her her junior year.

867
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Speaker 1: So what's the relationship with coaches?

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00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 4: If coach Kim Lsu calls you and asked for some

869
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: tips on how to coach Relasia for a while, you.

870
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Speaker 3: An you on your own? Yeah, like it ain't. I

871
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: ain't gonna help you help her beat us. Nah. The

872
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: thing about your book is like that, your stories and your.

873
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 5: Experiences, baby, this basketball texture.

874
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: What was that conversation like that?

875
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: What was it?

876
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: Because I know this was you wanted to do this,

877
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: But did they say did they give you push back

878
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 5: on it?

879
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 3: Like no, we're not able to We don't know or

880
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 3: just see just you you see a woman sees all

881
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: that that that is that's a strategic part of Yeah.

882
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: They we got the cover back right and it was

883
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: just a smooth surface like that like the front of it.

884
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, this would be cool if it could feel

885
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: like a basketball, like I mean the color, like like

886
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: this would be really cool. Now, this was really late

887
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: in the process, like really late. They were like, oh,

888
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: I don't we don't think. We don't think we could

889
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: do that and when And I didn't know they were

890
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: working on I didn't. I didn't know that they were

891
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: actually got it done until I got my first copy

892
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: and I was like whoa, oh wow, yes, yes, like

893
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: I didn't want that, I got this is so created.

894
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: Yes, congratulations on your statue in Columbia, South Carolina. You

895
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: and Asia Wilson got statues in Columbia. What would it

896
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 4: take for a player to get a statue at the

897
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: University of South Carolina?

898
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Because I know they come and they be like, damn,

899
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Asia got one. What can I do to get that?

900
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: I mean Boston Ali, Boston had a incredible career, Like

901
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: she did some things that Asia didn't do. Like she

902
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: she really did did some things that Asia didn't do.

903
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 3: I think when it when it comes to in her impact,

904
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: Like I think Asia, the total person of proximity to

905
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 3: South Carolina really helped her calls. You know, but Alia

906
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: from a basketball perspective, from a community like she is

907
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: all about community and what she stands for, Like she's

908
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: a young lady, that's really I mean if she was

909
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: from South Carolina, there will already be a statue of

910
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 3: like already and you know the trajectory of her career,

911
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 3: her impact that she'll have in the w n B A.

912
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: I do think she's an Olympian. I I I'll start

913
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: the campaign of getting Aliyah. I mean Asia's and my

914
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: statue are like two blocks from each other. You know,

915
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: why not go two more blocks and you can hear

916
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 3: all the statues for Aaliyah, all the statues in in one.

917
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: Pop'll go win more championships.

918
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: So we we? Yeah, I willing yes.

919
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: Final question Charlotte's sting, why can't we bring them back

920
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: to the Carolina? Yeah?

921
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: I get I get this question, and I get this

922
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: question about Philly too, because Philly, Philly wants to wants

923
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: a w NBA team. I do think the Hornets and

924
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 3: the Sixers got to do better. They gotta do better.

925
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: They gotta do better, you know, like it's I think

926
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: it's great when when the NBA team is doing great,

927
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 3: it helps with the whole conroderie. But I do think

928
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: I will say this, Sorry Philly, Sorry Philly, but I

929
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: do think Charlotte's more ready for w NBA team just

930
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: from a fan perspective, Like we draw like we are.

931
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: We we draw with the highest attended games in the

932
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: country at South Carolina, like for the for the past

933
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: ten years. Like no one's outdrawing us over the past

934
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: ten years. So I do think I do think we're

935
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: ready from that perspective. But it's it's more than fan support,

936
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: you know, it's a business. It's resources. Who's going to

937
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 3: pour in to the team. If the team doesn't do

938
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: well in the first year or two, which is highly likely,

939
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 3: will there be enough, you know, resources pour poured into

940
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: a team.

941
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Speaker 1: We can put together the right investment group.

942
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: I think so too. I'm down because people want me

943
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: to coach in the w A.

944
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Speaker 1: I don't.

945
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to coach in I want to own.

946
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 3: I want I want ownership.

947
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: There you have it. I would invest.

948
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: I got a little dollars, I've got a couple of dollars.

949
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Don.

950
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 4: New book Uncommon Favor of Basketball in North Philly, My

951
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 4: Mother and the Life Lessons I Learned from all three

952
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: is available everywhere you buy books. Now go get it.

953
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 4: You are guaranteed to learn something. You are a living Don.

954
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: We appreciate your presence on this earth. We thank God

955
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: for you.

956
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and listen.

957
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 4: I want everybody to remember that today Don Staley will

958
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: be at the Barns and Noble Fifth Avenue in New

959
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: York City.

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: If you're in New York City, you can.

961
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: Go see Don Staley at Barns and Noble one pm today,

962
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 4: five five five Fifth Avenue in New York. Go get

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Speaker 4: a copy of Uncommon Favor, signed Don.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wake

965
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Speaker 1: that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club