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Speaker 1: Well, Hi, I'm Buzznight, the host of the Taking a

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Speaker 1: Walk podcast, and welcome to another Week in Music History

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Speaker 1: for the week of February the seventeenth, and we go

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Speaker 1: to the music history desk to my friend, former radio programmer,

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Speaker 1: media executive, podcaster and also music fan.

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Speaker 2: What else can I add to your vast list?

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Speaker 3: Harry Jacobs, dog Dad, And I suspect he's hungry right now.

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Speaker 3: I've been hearing a little bit from him, so we

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Speaker 3: may get interrupted at some point, but yeah, dog Dad,

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Speaker 3: you can add that to the list.

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Speaker 2: That would be nice.

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Speaker 1: You might hear my two delinquents, possibly because there shockingly

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Speaker 1: might be another Amazon delivery today, which never happens around here.

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Speaker 3: How many Amazon deliveries do you think that you get

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Speaker 3: a week at your house, not just.

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Speaker 2: For you, for you and your wife.

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Speaker 1: It is about fourteen fourteen that come here to the house,

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Speaker 1: and then there's another five or six where I go

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Speaker 1: to one of those lockers where I'm dispatched.

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Speaker 2: Do you really have that many? No, I'm just exaggerating.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we got to have another podcast

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Speaker 3: about Amazon problems.

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Speaker 2: This is called like writer's embellishment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, let's go to the week of February

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Speaker 1: seventeenth and see what was going on that week, Harry.

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Speaker 2: And in seventy two, this is a great week for music.

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Speaker 3: Pink Floyd actually did their first performance of Dark Side

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Speaker 3: and we started talking about Dark Side.

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Speaker 2: You know, in a couple of recent episodes, there were some.

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Speaker 3: News that you know that had come up, the you know,

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Speaker 3: the recording, the you know, all kinds of different things,

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Speaker 3: and I put I put it on a playlist and

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Speaker 3: I have been listening to it pretty religiously in the

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Speaker 3: the AirPods on to just hear it in a completely

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Speaker 3: differfferent way. Now, for some reason, it's one of those

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Speaker 2: But it's a just so epic. Oh, I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: And a quiz for you, what's the song off of

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Speaker 2: Is a great gig in the sky. I believe that's correct, sir.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A great gig in the guy, what a haunting

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Speaker 3: song that is. I mean, it's just think about it,

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Speaker 3: That when when they talk about dark Side scoring Wizard

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Speaker 3: of Oz, our friend George Taylor Morris again we tipped

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Speaker 3: the hat to him. When you watch dark Side, and

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Speaker 3: that's you know, matched up with with Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 3: During Great Kicking the Sky, it's the scene where the

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Speaker 2: The soundtrack to that little section of the movie. It's

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Speaker 2: This is what they did. They just didn't tell anybody.

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Speaker 3: And I told everyone I knew, And then I told

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Speaker 3: There was a story on Netflix on David and Roger

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety eight, Bob Dylan won three Grammys for Album

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't airplay friendly in those days? When we

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Speaker 3: there's no way Bob Dylan's making three hundred million dollars

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Speaker 3: I think it was a great play for him and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my understanding many times is and I don't have

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Speaker 3: you know, my own, my own personal example like that,

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Speaker 3: And there was no movie, but was Neil Young.

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Speaker 2: And the older than I've gotten, the more.

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Speaker 3: He's got the voice of an angel. And as a

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Speaker 1: But it was fairly fairly obscure. But I'm curious. I

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Speaker 2: Leave I read this kid learned how to play guitar.

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Speaker 3: And by the way he sang, it's his voice in

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Speaker 2: That's incredible. That isn't That isn't incredible. But why aren't

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Speaker 1: It's just have it now. I'd rather see it in

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Speaker 3: At one point, and then COVID hit and then everyone

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Speaker 1: Harry in New England. So I just went uh and

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