1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Hey guys, time for the Sunday sampler. Coming up on 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: four Things with Amy Brown. Amy talked with Ashley Waller, 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: who is actually a good friend. 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Of Kaitlyn and mine. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: With Kaitlin and I, however, you say that she's a 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: celebrity hairstylist, she's a TV personality. She's the wife to 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Jason Waller, who it's Jason from Laguna Beach in the Hills, 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: and so they talk about reality TV. They talk about 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Jason and his experience with addiction. That's how Jason and 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: I know each other, and then learning how to be 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: a partner with someone in recovery. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: So hang out for that. 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: On the Bobby Cast, I sat down with one of 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: my favorite new artists, Lauren Watkins. She grew up in Nashville, 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: but she did not grow up in music in Nashville. 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: So it's the double because it's rare for an artist 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: to grow up here. 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: But if they do, it's like Mitchell Tinpenny who kind 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: of grew up in the industry, but she didn't do that. 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: She's opening for Morgan Wallen on a stadium tour. We 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: talk about that also why it's hard to play in Nashville, 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: and they say she has barstool charm, which is interesting. 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: So we have a lot of stuff to get to. 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with that. Here is Lauren Watkins on this 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: week's Bobby Cast. I was reading an article about you 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: and they have said something about you. 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: It was a weird term. It was called like barstool chic. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking of, and I think of it. 29 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: It was the barstool charm. That's what it was. You 30 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: had a barstool charm, and I didn't know whether. 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. If you're gonna. 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Ask, I don't know what it means either, And I 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: could look at it and both ways. I think barstool 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: charm barstoo would mean one of us normal, Yeah, cool, 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: but it also yes, it also means that what did 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: you did you read that? Have you seen people call 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: you that? 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: Oh? 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've seen it. 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: So what did you take that as? I wouldn't have 41 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: said barbol charm, but I didn't know you. I still 42 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't say barstool. 43 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: I think a lot of my songs are set in 44 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: a bar, and maybe I'm able to make. 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: It seem more charming and it really is. 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: That's how I took it good for you. 47 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: I kind of I romanticized that I would have found 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: that super negative anything about me I turned super negative 49 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: good for you. 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: For me, I was like, how can this be a 51 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 4: good thing? 52 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: But you're like the heartbreak for example, that is not 53 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: a positive thing. And that's the whole the name of 54 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: the whole product project there that you got to be 55 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: pretty vulnerable to even talk about heartbreak and did a 56 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: second ago? How hard? How easy was that? And then 57 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: especially if people know you're singing about. 58 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: Them, like, how wait say that again? 59 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: It's multi layered. 60 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: Hold on, if you're writing a song about having heartbreak 61 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: in general, or you have you have a project, it's 62 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: called heartbreak. That heartbreak had to come from root. Yes, 63 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: so first of all you have to talk about it, 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: and that that is like here, I'm gonna open my 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: ribs up vulnerable. Yeah, But then it's the person that 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: maybe broke your heart also getting to do a victory 67 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: lap because I get to hear you singing about it 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: like that. 69 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: To me, my ego wouldn't allow that. 70 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 4: No, I get that. 71 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, those are all thoughts that crossed my 72 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: mind at some point, but just kind of went in 73 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: one of hear out the other because I was just like, whatever, 74 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: these are things I got to get off my chest. 75 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: And yeah, but I also. 76 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: The songs are probably about lots of different people, not 77 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: just one. 78 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I completely agree with there's a lot of different people. 79 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Then, who's like she wrote lots of people doing or 80 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: they're wrong and they think it's about it's not and 81 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: they're telling them. 82 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: I kind of like that though, because it's sort of like, 83 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's kind of funny if they think 84 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: it's about them and it's really not. 85 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: See, I would be why do you think that's about you? 86 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't be good. There's a lot of 87 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: reason I wouldn't be good a songwriting. But that's the 88 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: part where I would really struggle, was like to give 89 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: somebody else like a little bit of shine where they 90 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: were No. 91 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: I totally get that, And you know, I guess what 92 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: I'll say to that is my songs are for They're 93 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: more for the people that I'm singing too rather than 94 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: people i'm singing about. So those people can think whatever 95 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: they think, but I just try not to care about it. 96 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Have you written anything ever and then someone heard it 97 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: and you guys weren't good and they heard it. 98 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: They were like, you know what that spoke to me? 99 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: And then you were good again. 100 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: Oh like a guy. 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: Sure it could be a free It could even be 102 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: a friend. Okay, like some dude. 103 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 4: I've definitely burned bridge. 104 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 3: Yes, if there was a bridge left, it was burned 105 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: with the songs. 106 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: But you didn't burn it so bad. It kind of 107 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: rebuilt itself. No, yeah, good for you, I don't think so. 108 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. 109 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: What's the most unexpected place that you've played, Like, difficult 110 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: to play because you people weren't even really paying attention. 111 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's happened so many times. You know, 112 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something that could be controversial. Nashville is 113 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: tough to play. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: Oh hey, I'm sure this is going to really be controversial. 115 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I'll get a lot of hits on that one. 116 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I know you can probably like I 117 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: Understandahale sucks to play. 118 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: It sucks, I'll see. 119 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: I hate playing shows here, Yeah, because I'm going to 120 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: say a bunch of mean stuff. So then it doesn't 121 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: make you look as so I'll cover for you. But 122 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: then you follow me. I hate playing shows and that 123 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: I love the people that live in Nashville are that 124 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: come to my shows. I hate plaann shows in Nashville 125 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: because there are two things that happen. One there's this like, 126 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: all right, impressing me expectation because I don't perform at all. 127 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm on the road all the time if I'm doing 128 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: stand up, and so if I'm finally doing a show here, 129 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: it's people that just like see pictures on it and 130 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, well let's see how good you really are. 131 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: That vibe exists. First of all, there are peers. 132 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: That finally want to come out and go like, all right, 133 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: well let's see what you got that competitive yes, and 134 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: then you want to hear something back from it, and 135 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: then it starts to be unhealthy. And then it's also 136 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: like ten hour meet and greets with everybody who you 137 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: know and that live here that want to come and see. 138 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: So Nashville is the worst place to I love Nashville 139 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: and the people, but for the industry, it's hard because 140 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: it's not just going to do a show for people 141 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: that want to be entertained. It's also going to do 142 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: a show for people that want you to prove your 143 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: worth of craft and worth yeah, and that to me 144 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: is why it's hard for me here. 145 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: You said it best. 146 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I literally that's everything I'm thinking you just said, 147 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: and it's it's a shame, like it hurts me as 148 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: a native because I mean when I was growing up, 149 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: like I said, I had no like foot in the industry. 150 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 4: I didn't know that even existed. 151 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: So when I was going to concerts, I was in 152 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: the front row screaming my head off, not caring about 153 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: who was there or whatever. I just wanted to be there. 154 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's tough now it does feel like everything 155 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: you just said, it's a lot of people just try 156 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: to be too cool. 157 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: And the thing is. 158 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: That people this is funny, like the people who matter, 159 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: and by matter, I just mean like like kind of 160 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: the big shots in the industry, like people who are 161 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: really like I don't know, the people that you want 162 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: to impress, they're not really trying to be too cool. 163 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: They're just they're doing their job, like like there to 164 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: cheer you on. 165 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: But it's the people that are like insecure. 166 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm insecure, and I say that from 167 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: an insecure place. I'm not insecure in that way, but 168 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm in too. It's definitely a place of if somebody 169 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: else roots for you, or somebody else says why you're 170 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: really good, that must mean to them that they're not. 171 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I struggle with the same thing in different ways. Oh, same, 172 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: So there are probably peers of yours or any artist. 173 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: It's at a show and it's a little bit jealous, 174 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: but can't be healthy about it. 175 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: It's hard. 176 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: It's hard, And I also think people like even as 177 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: simple as yelling out during the show, yelling and screaming, cheering, 178 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: people don't want to do it. 179 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: They're scared. 180 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: People are looking at them. Who's in the room, Who's 181 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: going to see me look stupid? Yeah, and I a 182 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: lot of my songwriter friends and I love to protest 183 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: against that. And we'll go to our friends shows in 184 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: town and just be the biggest fans, because. 185 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: That's what you want. 186 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you work so hard, you're on the road 187 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: and and and you then you get so excited to 188 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: come home and play a show for your your people. 189 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: And then it's like that and it's sort. 190 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 5: Of sad, kind good. 191 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Cast up little food for yourself life, ain't Oh it's 192 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: pretty bad. 193 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 6: It's pretty beautiful that for a little more. 194 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Said, he can cut your kick in It with Full 195 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: Thing with Amy Brown. 196 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown. 197 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 7: And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast. 198 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 7: What encouragement do you have for people that, whatever the 199 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 7: situation is, they're sort of living life like I'm just 200 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 7: waiting for the next show to drop, like everything's great 201 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 7: right now. And I mean, I think that they're going 202 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 7: to be sober this time or they're not going to relapse, 203 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 7: but like they can't get over waiting for the next 204 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 7: show to drop. 205 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing is it is absolutely impossi 206 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 8: to struggle alone, Like you have got to find a 207 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 8: support group or at least a person that you can 208 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 8: speak in confidence to about what's going on. I think 209 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 8: it's really important to vocalize and seek that professional help 210 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 8: because being in that isolation alone and constantly thinking that 211 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 8: things are going to change without having some sort of 212 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 8: not necessarily outside opinion, but I just feel like it's 213 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 8: a really, really, really lonely place to be when you 214 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: are in the depths of somebody struggling with addiction. 215 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 9: And I think as soon as you can. 216 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 8: Tell somebody because your secrets make you so sick, and 217 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 8: they can really hurt your life? 218 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 9: Did you have to do some sort of an intervention? 219 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's okay. 220 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 7: And what did that process collect for you? Because I 221 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: know for everybody it's a little bit different. But if 222 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 7: anybody's new to it, like you said, you'd never dealt 223 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 7: with addiction before, and so because he had been there before, 224 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 7: maybe he worked in that space, maybe he sort of 225 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 7: knew who to call. But I can imagine if someone's 226 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 7: never been through it all, it's whatever. It's like, wait, 227 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 7: who do I even ask about where to start and 228 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 7: how to start or do this whole intervention thing, because 229 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 7: you just see it on TV. You see like, oh 230 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 7: do I call everybody and we gather together in the 231 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 7: living room. But it's it's case by case on how 232 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 7: it needs. 233 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think everybody's situation is different. For us, it 234 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 8: was like the moment when the vulnerability is there and 235 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 8: the person is at their low. So a lot of times, 236 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 8: like there'll be these really big waves through addiction when 237 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 8: people are struggling and it's at that moment where they 238 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 8: hit that low where they're very vulnerable and they're. 239 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 9: Like, I don't want to do this anymore. 240 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 8: You know, that's the moment that's the moment that you're like, 241 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 8: we got to get everybody together, we got to send 242 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 8: them off and get them to go, and that's just 243 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 8: it's a non negotiable and they just they go. So 244 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 8: for instance, when we had the interventional my husband to 245 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 8: send him to treatment, it was his parents. I contacted 246 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 8: his parents immediately because they love him, they had been 247 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 8: through this with him for so many years and understood 248 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 8: kind of what he was going through. I don't even 249 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 8: think they at the time really knew exactly who to call. 250 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 9: But my husband did have a. 251 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 8: Sponsor from previously being sober, and we had a lot 252 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 8: of friends in the recovery industry because my husband had 253 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 8: clearly worked in the recovery industry, and so we called 254 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 8: his old sponsor and so he helped a lot facilitate everything. 255 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 9: What did the forgiveness process look like for you? Therapy 256 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 9: was really important. 257 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 8: My husband and I went to a couple therapy for 258 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 8: literally every single week for a whole year. 259 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 9: We also did individual therapy along. 260 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 8: With our meeting, so like aa alan on Family Recovery Foundation. 261 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 8: But it was a really long process because there was 262 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 8: so much mistrust that had happened during that time and 263 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 8: a lot of resentment and it took me a lot 264 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 8: of tools and actions. I think once there was more 265 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 8: time of him being sober, it really helped just realize 266 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 8: that things were changing. 267 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: You know. 268 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 8: The act was really big for me because the words 269 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 8: really didn't matter at this point, and that's what made 270 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 8: it really challenging. So once I saw that time was 271 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 8: passing and the actions of his I would say emotional 272 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 8: maturity was changing, that's when I was like, Okay, this 273 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 8: is helping me so much. Just have forgiveness and just 274 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 8: I think any sort of therapy is so beneficial in 275 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 8: life no matter. 276 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 9: What, because it helps so much. 277 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 8: But couple's therapy together too was really important for us 278 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 8: and it helped us a lot. 279 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 7: Do you feel like there were days that you definitely 280 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 7: just did not want to be there or you were 281 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 7: on like shut down and it gives like, well, this 282 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 7: is like a huge waste of time and then how 283 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 7: would you pull yourself out of that? 284 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 8: It's so interesting because I feel like I never ever, 285 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 8: even through all of this and everything that we had 286 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 8: ever been through, like the divorce word never hit my 287 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 8: mind ever, Like I just was like, it's just a 288 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 8: non negotiable, like we're not getting divorced ever in our 289 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 8: whole entire lives, Like you're going to just get better, 290 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 8: Like we're just going to figure out ways to get 291 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 8: you better, and then we're going to be together forever. 292 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 8: Because I strongly believed so much that this man that 293 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 8: I fell in love with was still there underneath all 294 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 8: of this destruction and turmoil. So I don't know if 295 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 8: I ever wasn't willing. I think at times I was 296 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 8: more shut off because I was just exhausted. Then necessarily 297 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 8: like I just was unhopeful because I think the hope 298 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 8: was always there. I never really gave up on him 299 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: and my hope for him, which is good. I mean 300 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 8: a lot of people, I think in times they just 301 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 8: they get to the point where like the hope just 302 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 8: gets lost and then they just have no that's it 303 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 8: for them. But luckily I still always had that, which 304 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 8: is I think what helped a lot with our relationship 305 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 8: and what helps today, you know, is we always we 306 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 8: want to be together forever. We want to be the 307 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 8: best version of ourselves for each other. So that's why 308 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 8: we work so hard at taking care of ourselves. 309 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 9: I love that. 310 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 7: Well, thank you for sharing some of that because I 311 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 7: know that it's sometimes really difficult to even revisit. But 312 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 7: I guess since you've made it part of your story, 313 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 7: part of your mission, part of your what does this 314 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 7: make possible? Then it feels good to talk about it 315 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 7: because it's giving purpose to what you went through. 316 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 10: Let's do it live. 317 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: We are the two so loser. 318 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 6: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most 319 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my 320 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 6: sports opinions because I'm pretty much a sports genius. 321 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: What up, y'all? 322 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 10: At his scison, I'm from the North. I'm in Alpha Male. 323 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 10: I live on the West side of Nashville with Baser, 324 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 10: my wife. We do have a white picket fence at 325 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 10: the apartment complex. Soon I'm gonna have two point five 326 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 10: kids and yes, sadly, I will die of a heart 327 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 10: attack when I'm seventy two years old. 328 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: Here's a clip from the last podcast. 329 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 10: If you're in Nashville, since it's not legal here, I 330 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 10: think you can get in trouble at the airport. Whereas Vegas, 331 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 10: if you get caught with gummies, they just throw them away. 332 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 10: Case in point, got my bachelor party had gummies. They 333 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 10: grabbed him out put them in the receptacle. 334 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 6: At your bachelor party. 335 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there. Don't remember that? 336 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 10: The one dude, he was random. I invited him at 337 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 10: a party one time and he came camp. His name 338 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 10: slips my mind. It was three years ago, it feels 339 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 10: like a lot longer than that. The dude that just 340 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 10: like would go to bed at night and slept for 341 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 10: twelve hours. 342 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: Oh, is that the one that you shared a hotel 343 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 6: room with. No, he actually might stay, so you're telling 344 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: me the one that actually stayed at MGM Grand while 345 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: you stayed at New York, New York or wherever the 346 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 6: hell you stayed. 347 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 10: He was kind of I stayed at Paris. He was 348 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 10: kind of Jonathan's friend. But he was awesome. Just on 349 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 10: the way out, didn't disguise the gummies. They pulled him 350 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 10: right out, threw them away. But you don't get in trouble. 351 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 6: That's the difference between Oh, yeah, you guys, I was 352 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 6: tsa pre check. You guys weren't. Sorry. I didn't see 353 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: that altercation as my bat. 354 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 10: He didn't really explain it to us well either. He 355 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 10: just came over. He was so hung over and goes, yeah, 356 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 10: all those gummies I bought one hundred dollars worth of 357 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 10: theirs threw them away and we said, no emotion. 358 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm too hungover. 359 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: We get it, totally understand. But let me tell you, right, 360 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: a lot like this is the best Friday, the last Friday. 361 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 10: I mean, we're ending the podcast. 362 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 6: No, I am so excited for Sunday because it's Selection Sunday. 363 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: But here's only one problem. Things have changed in the 364 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 6: landscape of college basketball where I don't have hope for 365 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 6: a national championship. I don't have hope for a Kansas 366 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 6: raising the national championship banner. So going into the tournament, 367 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: I'm a little sad. 368 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 10: What are you from Arkansas? 369 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 6: No, I just said Kansas. I said Kansas. 370 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 10: Right, they have reason to be sad, don't I don't 371 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 10: even think they're going to get into American the American Tournament. 372 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: No, No, I understand Kansas is going to be in 373 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 6: the tournament. 374 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 10: But I have no like, did you guys make it? 375 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 376 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 6: We made the tournament, no problem. The Valls make it. 377 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: Vallves are going to be maybe a number one seed Vandy. 378 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: Vandy fire their coach, so they didn't make it. Stack 379 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 6: Stack is out. Yeah, and he had a hell of 380 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 6: a press conference, man, and Justin saw him. 381 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 10: Where did you see him in person? We went to 382 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 10: the game three years ago. 383 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 6: I saw him. I was eating at Chopped, which is 384 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 6: like a salad place. I don't know, Well, why don't 385 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 6: you just chop. 386 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 10: Me a salad? What a restaurant. It's just like a 387 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 10: little it's like a Chipotle, but for salads. Were there 388 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 10: any dudes in there? There was actually three dudes working there. 389 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 10: They all loved me. 390 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 6: So I'm sitting out on the patio and I'm eating 391 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 6: my Chopped salad. 392 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 10: I would have drove by and saw you. Dud on 393 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 10: a veered off the road and. 394 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 6: I was eating I think it was a Fiesta salad, 395 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 6: so it had like avocado. 396 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 10: Some put some meat in there. 397 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 6: Oh, Sara, we don't have any meat grilled corner. It's 398 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 6: not a vegetarian place. It's called a salad. Have you 399 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 6: ever had a salad? 400 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 401 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 6: Okay, they have chicken and shrimp and they have all 402 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 6: sorts of stuff you can put in a salad. 403 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 10: By Buddy Danny in Miami eats salads on South Beach. 404 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: Nothing wrong with that. 405 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 10: No, it's just not manly. 406 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: Man. 407 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 10: You're in Port Missile country. If you ain't sucking off 408 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 10: a hot dog on a Friday, man, what are you doing? 409 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: But this wasn't a Friday, it was a Wednesday. 410 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 10: If you ain't at that beach, you wear that. 411 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 6: So I'm sitting on the patio and I and you 412 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 6: can see through the windows down the sidewalk. Bathroom, No, 413 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 6: bathroom is not seat through it right. 414 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 10: I could see into the women's restroom. 415 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 8: No. 416 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: And I see this really tall human walking and it's 417 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 6: Jerry Stackhouse. 418 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 10: Stack, and he could stack your ass up. Back in 419 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 10: the day, man Detroit, And that's when that city had 420 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 10: no violence. 421 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 6: I was probably peak violence. And I was like, man, 422 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 6: I gotta go say what up? And he's walking down 423 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 6: the sidewalk, Garry, I start jumping up. My wife, where 424 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 6: are you going? I was like, stack, stock house Stack 425 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: And this is probably a month ago, and he just 426 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 6: he's b lines. 427 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 10: It knew he was getting fired. 428 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 6: Does not say a word, Stack stacking up. Go through 429 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: the restaurant, out the front door, stack Stack. 430 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 10: Nobody's ever called him that before. 431 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 6: Jerry and he goes around the corner and his big 432 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 6: old truck is parked along the curb. He jumps right in, 433 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 6: closes the door. 434 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 10: Did you go up to the vehicle. No, no, I'm 435 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 10: not that crazy. But it's all funny until they jump 436 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 10: at their car. 437 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 6: It was they getting their car. It's like, okay, too far. 438 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 6: I don't want to be like seemed like a crazy person. 439 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 6: And it took him about two seconds to start that 440 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 6: truck and he was out. I mean, that was my 441 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 6: one interaction with Jerry Stackhouse when he was the coach 442 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 6: of Vanderbilt basketball. 443 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 10: Athletes in town that we've seen him in their truck. 444 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 10: Jerry Stackhouse, Taylor Lawan, Taylor Wan only two. 445 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 6: That's it. 446 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 10: Thought that'd be a better And that was he had 447 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 10: a truck. 448 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 6: Now he was in an suv and he was being driven. 449 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 6: He had a driver. It was Walgreens. He's getting icy 450 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 6: hot and an ankle bandage. I told you his ankle 451 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 6: was bad. I told you guys, Hey, we got another Julio. 452 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 6: It's gonna be here a year, Calvin, he'll be here 453 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 6: for more than two a year. He sounded like a 454 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 6: four year deal. 455 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 10: Hey, guys in a gambling away, Julio. 456 00:20:41,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: Welcome the Titans up, Baby tighten up. Welcome to Nashville, Baby. 457 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: Cavery. She's a queen and talking so she's getting really 458 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: not afraid, so. 459 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Just let it flow. 460 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: No one can do we can. He's sound like Caroline. 461 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 11: Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby from Get Real with Caroline Hobby. 462 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 9: And here is a clip from this week's episode. 463 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 11: Are you someone know when you start something and you 464 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 11: give your heart, you finish it? 465 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, Like you don't just like be like, oh. 466 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 11: Crap, like no, this is a lot no yeah, reverse reverse, yeah, 467 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 11: like no forward. 468 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 9: For once a minute a minute? 469 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 12: And I just great, what a team player you are 470 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 12: to Ian is lucky to have you. 471 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 9: I mean that is you are a force of nature. Caroline, 472 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 9: thank you. 473 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 12: Like I said, going a little crazy. 474 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 9: So let's talk about when y'all fell in love. Good stuff. 475 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 11: So all of a sudden you're like, oh, Ian Mussig, 476 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 11: I know him. I got him his first gig. And 477 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 11: Travis Drat and his family are like, you need to 478 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 11: meet this guy. You're like, know him, and now you 479 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 11: see him, you realize he's got this image, he's got 480 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 11: this deep connection to Wyoming. You see the branding. It's 481 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 11: all like clear to you. But it's not necessarily the 482 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 11: right time in country music for him to make his 483 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 11: big splash because it was bro country, So what do 484 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 11: you do? What do y'all do? And then where does 485 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 11: the love happen? 486 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 12: I mean with him on we did this thing called 487 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 12: minute Mondays and he would film Ian can play pretty 488 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 12: much every instrument, and we would film these minute Mondays 489 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 12: with a guy named gray Wood, and he literally he 490 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 12: would just do covers and would play like multiple instruments, 491 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 12: but it would just be him or multiples of him, 492 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 12: and we would post those every Monday, and we just 493 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 12: started like to learning his his like Instagram. 494 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 9: TikTok was not a thing because Instagram was going. 495 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 12: Streaming was just like starting, So we were just trying 496 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 12: to build it independently. Yeah. 497 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, everything was independent for a while, and you guys 498 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 11: were content creators in the very beginning. Yeah, like the 499 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 11: content before really content, Like I was keen. Yeah I 500 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 11: think maybe vine was out or something, but died on 501 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 11: the vine. Yeah yeah, like so yeah, we just went 502 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 11: on trying to build his awareness and like getting people 503 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 11: to notice him and then eventually, you know, his streaming 504 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 11: numbers got big enough and uh Warner. 505 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 12: And other labels started reaching out and said, you know, hey, 506 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 12: who is this guy that's streaming just as well as. 507 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 11: He so, what are good streaming numbers to make it? 508 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 11: Labels turn their head like, what so streaming? 509 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 9: For everyone listening? 510 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 11: Streaming is like when you I'm sure a lot of 511 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 11: people know this now, but it's like when you go 512 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 11: and you just listen to Spotify or you go and 513 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 11: you listen to iTunes or whatever it's online, and it's 514 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 11: just like it counts. You get all these streams, Like 515 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 11: every time you hear a song, you get another streams. 516 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 11: So like when you get a ton of streams, people 517 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 11: are like, who is this? Yeah, dude, for everyone knows 518 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 11: streaming is. I just talked to them like they're a 519 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 11: bunch of idiots. I know what streaming is. Okay, sorry 520 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,239 Speaker 11: about that. 521 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 12: I'm trying to even think what it would have been 522 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 12: in twenty seventeen, not what it is now. Now people 523 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 12: are getting like billions. You know, it's crazy, but I 524 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 12: mean I think. 525 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 11: Labels you should not even want artists to stream, Like 526 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 11: that's how crazy it was. It was so new that 527 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 11: they're like, don't stream because that takes away from your 528 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 11: album cells or whatever. So it's like it was it's 529 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 11: been a new phenomenon that Ian probably was at the 530 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 11: very beginning of. 531 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, he was, for sure, I would say maybe, you know, 532 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 12: I know, independently we got our first few million streams, 533 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 12: so in twenty seventeen it'd be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, 534 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 12: you know, and that's with no like there. It's not 535 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 12: like we were on any DSP like playlist Seed or anything. 536 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 9: That's all organic. 537 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 12: So that's the one thing about Ian is he's really 538 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 12: everything has been grassroots, in organic. 539 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 9: You know, No, you're good. 540 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 12: Sorry, Yeah, And so we've just really been proud of 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 12: that growth because you know, it's. 542 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 9: That real thing. 543 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 12: It's real, like they show up and buy tickets and 544 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 12: they buy merch and they engage and it's not fake 545 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 12: like it's real. So that's been very valuable to us. 546 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 11: Okay, so you are putting stuff out, you're still dismanaging. 547 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 9: No, like I want to kiss. 548 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 12: Your face yet. No, I'm trying to think when were 549 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 12: you Like, I gotta just like, yeah, on the end 550 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 12: of twenty seventeen, so maybe like six seven months in. 551 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 12: I think we were just around each other so much. 552 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 12: I think we went we were in like California or something, 553 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 12: and yeah, I don't know. It just kind of makes 554 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 12: how happen. It's a cool manti. 555 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 9: I feel like, no, I haven't been building up. 556 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, I feel like it was definitely slower up for Yeah, 557 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 12: I didn't know each other. Yeah no, and that was 558 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 12: the thing. We're just around each other all the time. 559 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 12: But you know, at the same time, it felt like 560 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 12: very like taboo. But it was kind of exciting. But 561 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 12: it's like, nobody's gonna take us seriously if like one, 562 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 12: I'm what probably I think I was like twenty four 563 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 12: at the time. Who's gonna take me seriously? One as 564 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 12: a manager? You know, this kid that has you know, 565 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 12: nothing really behind him, let alone us. 566 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 9: You know, oh, my manager is my girlfriend, you know. 567 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 9: So yeah, we kept on the DL. Was that kind 568 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 9: of find to be secret? Yeah? 569 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 12: I feel like it was a little stressful because I 570 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 12: literally didn't tell my friends. 571 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 9: I didn't tell nobody. I told nobody. 572 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 11: And I say, by the way, you and Lady Wilson 573 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 11: BFF ORFF before she became Lady Wilson. 574 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, okay, I can't wonder about that. That's so fun. 575 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, but we Yeah, we kept on the d L 576 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 12: didn't my friends. I'm sure they could have assumed whatever, 577 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 12: but you know, nobody really asked or said anything. So 578 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 12: we just kept doing our thing, and then you know, 579 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 12: one thing led to another and we got pregnant, and. 580 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 11: Then you really can't keep it under a walk anymore. 581 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 11: So we were like, so we're trying to get pregnant. 582 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 9: No, no, Noka. 583 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 11: Crawford's like, I'm ready. He's got two cool people here parents. 584 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 12: He's like, I am ready to make my appearance, and 585 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 12: there's nothing you can do about it. 586 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we. 587 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 12: Got pregnant, and yeah, I think Laney was the first 588 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 12: person I called to tell her that I was pregnant. 589 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 13: Hey, it's Mike d and this week our movie Mike's 590 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 13: Moe Podcast, I went through Forbes' latest report on the 591 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 13: top ten highest earning actors from the last year. I 592 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 13: break down exactly how an actor makes money, whether it's 593 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 13: a movie that goes into theaters or goes straight to streaming. 594 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 13: So if you want to know more about the money 595 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 13: side of movies, this is a great episode to check out. 596 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 13: Here's just a little of me breaking down some of 597 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 13: the highest earners in Hollywood. At number ten, with a 598 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 13: gross income of twenty eight million dollars, taking home at 599 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 13: the end of the day twenty four million dollars, it 600 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 13: is Denzel Washington. Last year he put out the third 601 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 13: installment of The Equalizer. 602 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 9: Has been a pretty average. 603 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 13: Film series overall, each one of those movies has crossed 604 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 13: one hundred and ninety million dollar mark at the box office. 605 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 13: And the real reason it has done that because of 606 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 13: Denzel Washington. Without his name attached to that movie, nobody 607 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 13: would really care about it. And in addition to that 608 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 13: movie last year, why he continues to remain in the 609 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 13: top ten is because of his catalog, all the royalties 610 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 13: he is getting from all of his back years of work. 611 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 13: That is really so important to an actor is that 612 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 13: library of movies that you build. Really in anything, I 613 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 13: will even say that in podcasting, it comes down to 614 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 13: the amount of work you can do and just have 615 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 13: like this fast portfolio of all these episodes, all these movies. 616 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 13: That is really where you start to see money grow 617 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 13: in entertainment. 618 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: So it is really precious. 619 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 13: That is also why you see a lot of fights 620 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 13: over rights to things and rights to episodes, is because 621 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 13: that is where the money will be there for you always. 622 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 13: That is also why you see musicians selling their catalogs 623 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 13: in order to have guaranteed money every year, because they 624 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 13: can sell their catalog and know they're going to have 625 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 13: that said amount of money for the rest of their life. 626 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 13: And Denzel Washington has been doing it for over forty 627 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 13: years now, he's sixty nine years old. He can really 628 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 13: do any movie that he wants and it's probably gonna 629 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 13: make a pretty good amount of money at the box office. 630 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 13: I kind of wish you would go into a bit 631 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 13: of a different direction and get back to those really 632 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 13: big dramatic roles that he would do all the time, 633 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 13: and the ones that he is known for. I think 634 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 13: the last movie I really love from him was from 635 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 13: twenty sixteen call Fences, which was an adaptation of a play, 636 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 13: and I thought that really showed the true power of 637 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 13: Denzel Washington, the reason everybody fell in love with him 638 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 13: and the reason he is a movie star. I wish 639 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 13: he would go back to doing movies like that. But 640 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 13: at number ten is Denzel Washington at number nine with 641 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 13: a gross income of forty five million dollars, and on 642 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 13: the list listed at thirty eight million dollars is Ben Affleck. Again, 643 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 13: this is only including his money that he has made 644 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 13: with acting. Out of everybody on this list, this is 645 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 13: the most surprising to me. I do not think he 646 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 13: is worth thirty eight million dollars a year, especially when 647 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 13: you look at the movies he did last year. The 648 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 13: fifty one year old starred and directed Air, which is 649 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 13: a great movie. I love this movie, but financially it 650 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 13: didn't really cross a big threshold of making money at 651 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 13: the box office, Like wasn't even supposed to come out 652 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 13: in theaters, but Amazon decided to move forward and give 653 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 13: it a theatric release and it ended up making ninety 654 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 13: million dollars at the box office before just straight going 655 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 13: over to Amazon Prime Video. But the other movie he 656 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 13: put out, Hypnotic, was so bad and such a bomb, 657 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 13: one of the worst bombs in. 658 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: The last decade. 659 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 13: That movie cost sixty five million dollars to make and 660 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 13: only made sixteen point three at the box office, but 661 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 13: I guess he still got paid. He am making no 662 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 13: money on the back end of that movie. But he 663 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 13: has been around for a long time enough to be 664 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 13: in Duncan commercials and probably made a lot of money 665 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 13: off of that, even though that amount is not included 666 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 13: on this list at number nine as Ben Affleck, so 667 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 13: there is a tie at number eight. Two people come 668 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 13: in with forty one million dollars. The first one is 669 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 13: Jason Statham, who had a gross of forty eight million 670 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 13: dollars before taking home forty one million dollars. Stathum is 671 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 13: just a quietly dominant actor. In the last year, he 672 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 13: has been in Fast X Meg two, The Trench, and 673 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 13: The Expendables four, and as of the recording of this podcast, 674 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 13: he is the star of the highest grossing movie so 675 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 13: far in twenty twenty four, The Beekeeper, so he will 676 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 13: probably be back on this list next year. He is 677 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 13: the quintessential action star right now. I think he is 678 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 13: to the point that if you are a die hard 679 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 13: fan of action, you will probably go watch every single 680 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 13: movie that Jason Statham is in. And he's fifty six 681 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 13: years old and has been doing this so well now 682 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 13: for the last twenty years. It is honestly surprising to 683 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 13: me how successful he has been, kind of being typecast 684 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 13: in the same role over and over again. As much 685 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 13: as I don't want to give him the credit for 686 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 13: being a great actor, he can crush me with his wallet. 687 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 13: And Jason Statum comes in at number seven, tied with 688 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 13: Leonardo DiCaprio, who also had a gross of forty eight 689 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 13: million dollars. And took home forty one million dollars to 690 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 13: put him tied at seven eight. I don't know why 691 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 13: they put two seventh on this list. The crazy thing 692 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 13: here is Leonardo DiCaprio made a majority of this money 693 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 13: on one movie. He was only in Killers of the 694 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 13: Flower Moon last year, which he earned a reported forty 695 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 13: million dollars just for that one movie. So it kind 696 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 13: of shows you how much money people can make, at 697 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 13: least him in particular on the back end from his 698 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 13: library of work, which I wonder about that. I feel 699 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 13: like he should make more because he's been in Titanic alone, 700 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 13: which I feel like he will continue to get checks 701 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 13: for the rest of his life. If he ever has kids, 702 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 13: they will be getting checks probably for the rest of 703 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 13: their life. But at forty eight million dollars gross and 704 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 13: a forty one take home, that is inredible for one movie, 705 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 13: and Leonardo DiCaprio is one of the panful of actors 706 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 13: that could do something like that, even though he was 707 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 13: snubbed an Oscar nomination for that movie. I don't really 708 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 13: think he's hurting because he can be so selective just 709 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 13: doing one movie a year if that, and do movies 710 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 13: that he really cares about work with directors that he 711 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 13: really has a great relationship with, and obviously him doing 712 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 13: a Scorsese movie is probably a no brainer. So I 713 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 13: think at this point, even though he made forty million 714 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 13: dollars of one movie, I almost think he is at 715 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 13: a point where the money doesn't really matter anymore. And 716 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 13: I also heard Bradley Cooper talking about this recently when 717 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 13: he was talking about he maybe only has three or 718 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 13: four movies left in him, because to be an actor 719 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 13: at that level, it takes so much time to focus 720 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 13: on one project. 721 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: It is four to five years of your life. 722 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 13: From the moment you start developing a movie, get attached 723 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 13: to it, and it finally comes out that he thinks 724 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 13: that he maybe has four or five left, maybe three 725 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 13: or four, that he thinks he only has a handful 726 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 13: of movies left in him. I think that is the 727 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 13: same case with Leonardo DiCaprio, who is later in his 728 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 13: acting career but by no means is anywhere done. He 729 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 13: could continue acting into his seventies and eighties, just look 730 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 13: at Robert de Niro, but I think he has to 731 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 13: be more selective on how he uses his time. He 732 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 13: is obviously going to do movies now that are either 733 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 13: gonna make a lot of money at the box office, 734 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 13: therefore earning him more money, or really I think he 735 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 13: is just interested in doing movies that are going to 736 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 13: warrant an Oscar nomination. So tied at number seven Leonardo 737 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 13: DiCaprio and Jason Stay them with forty one million dollars. 738 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Sunday Sampler. Check out 739 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: into the podcast that you missed. Maybe subscribe the Bobby 740 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Cast Four Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's 741 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: Movie podcast, Get Real with Caroline Hobby. 742 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: Some new podcasts to come as well. 743 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: We're very excited about subscribe if you would like it 744 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: would help us rate and review. That would really help us. 745 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: I know you don't often do that. I don't do 746 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: that very often, but if you get a wild hair 747 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: and you want to go rate and review like the 748 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Cast or Fourth four Things, that'll be awesome. 749 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 2: All Right, you guys, thank you. We'll see you next week. 750 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 5: This is sten stuff.